Thread 509242073

Why do rightoids vote against their own economic interests?

>>509242073 (OP)
I routinely buy liquor in the next state over because my state ran liquor stores charge nearly 50% more on their product. Enjoy the cope.

>>509242073 (OP)
what exactly is in my own economic interests?

>>509242303
>I routinely buy liquor
Alcoholic

Because demoshits wont give them Aligator Alcatraz >>509241986
>>509241986
>>509241986

>>509242073 (OP)
they don't have any

>>509242356
Routinely ≠ frequent

>>509242073 (OP)
domestic animals often lack threat perception

>>509242073 (OP)
Yes lets force all the billionares out, the people who bring in the commerce so instead we are just a country of fat poor niggers and brown people

Truly this is in my economic interest

>>509242073 (OP)
You are brown and you don't matter.

>we commie scum know better than you what is in your interest!
No

We shouldnt have blacks. And nobody in the comments can tell me this is wrong if they’re not black.

>>509242073 (OP)
>ur economic interest is to be taxed for being white and having the state run everything
You don’t know what my interests are.

>>509242073 (OP)

Zohran’s family is rich. He’s a trust fund poo.

Didn’t you already know that tranny?

>>509242073 (OP)
If there’s a guy who gets to decide who can/can’t be a billionaire then he’s way more powerful than any billionaire and far more of a threat to your liberty and security.
Every state that doesn’t respect private property is a complete basket case with ZERO exceptions.

>>509242073 (OP)
Because the Man On TV tells them to.

>>509242073 (OP)
>The left who is actively destroying your country, replacing you, and supporting racist discriminatory policies against your race has your best interest in mind!
kek, this is literally the best they've got
fucking pathetic retards

>>509242303
It's insane how many states run these communist liquor monopolies.

>>509242581
jelly?

>>509242578
jej really nailed it there
Not that troons have any actual responses

I literally can now no longer get care for my gender dysphoria and depression. I hate you guys so much. I will destroy maga and this board at any cost. Gloves are off now

Because that is just the tagline.
The reality is that what he wants to remove is the middle class. He makes the people who cant move away poorer because the rich people will just use a loophole to throw their money in another business or land or something else to divert what the government would take and the only people who are left footing the bill are the middle class to pay for this freak's transgender children surgeries.

These people are not sane. They want to make abortion mandatory. They want to invoke laws to suppress energy other than what they own. They want to strip the people of their money, to be in knowledge of all their dealings with their money and force them to make decisions on how to raise their kids.

If you vote socialist you are voting for the government to stick an ankle bracelet up your ass and force pump estrogen into you and your kids.

>>509242073 (OP)
their joo master teaches them that this is righteous. stupid goyim willl exterminate themselves.

>>509242475
>actually they're billionaires because they bring the commerce
>not because they did insanely shady shit to cheat their workers, the government, and thus the taxbase out of their money
Show me a single billionaire who earned their money and I'll show you a politician who keeps his word.

>>509242073 (OP)
>why do white people vote against people who literally say "I want to tax white people more"?
truly a mystery

>>509242073 (OP)
>Why do rightoids vote against their own economic interests?
because most people who are right wing are low iq and are suffering from stockholm syndrome for people that view them as literal cattle despite literally believing in a economic theory that states if there is a vacuum in the market due to a billionaire being deposed there will be somebody that replaces them

which is funny because capitalism was never a theory championed by historical right wingers who were either distributists or favored mixed economies
>>509242475
>>509242303
>>509242617
a good example itt of said cattle

Billionaires are a product of inflation

>>509242646
Yea man. Lucky for me I live on the border and can drive in every few months. A handle of my favorite whiskey goes for 39 dollars before tax but just over the border its 24.

>>509242303
PA?

>>509242444
Right, and you can quit any time!

>>509242314
>paying for niggers is in your economic interests
Jews every time.

>>509242073 (OP)
Cuz they are reactionaries who know that you MUST be wrong even if you agree with them on anything they will out argue you from doing so. They have no real deeply held beliefs so they jsut go with whatever the fake news tells them to mindlessly adopt as a cause so they can appear less shallow and dense than they know they are deep down, same reason white women get tattoo's really. But they are so stupid they would take a dick up the ass with a smile so long as they could watch you get fucked next. Just awful people in every way. When are YOU guys going to go back to wages over gay stuff? When are you going to stop running vaginas with big egos as serious candidates? This is why I do not vote and mock the words both of you terrorist speak. Washington said you party people were all freedoom hating cucks, only with nicer words and he was damn skippy on that one to a fucking tee!

>>509242073 (OP)
Because they think that America winning the cold war somehow meant trickledown economics was real. Before you could say it was like an experiment, but now government keeps giving more and more to the rich while wages stay the same and everything gets more expensive. Stock growth is seen as "the economy" so this tricking and looting is propagandized as positive, but it comes at the expense of the worsening conditions for workers, customers, patients, etc.

Everyone is too distracted to really have the time to understand why BBB is bad, so it's just happening with people just having faith in Trump and afraid to step out of line.

>>509242887
Honestly wouldn't be a problem. I just like some whisky on the rocks for the weekends.

>>509242881
VA
I've seen how they do it in PA. Thought we were going to hitters but they had a backdoor for liquor. Was flabbergasted lol.

>>509242073 (OP)
>white men should vote for the guy who explicitly is against whites
>vote for the two-tier tax system
Of all leftist arguments, this is the weakest. A white person voting for a leftist is voting for their own genocide

>>509242073 (OP)
>Left: Look we just want to increase taxes on the Billionaires!
>Everyone else: You are going to increase taxes on the middle class.
>Left: No, we just want to increase taxes on the Billionaires.
>Everyone else: Fine
>Left: Oops we raised the taxes on the middle class instead

Every single fucking time.

>>509242475
>force out
>this absolute boot licking retard thinks companies will go elsewhere
This is why trump loves the retarded and uneducated

>>509242073 (OP)
>Democrats have been in power the majority of my life and wealth inequality has exploded
Two more weeks until the democrats do anything against the rich

>>509242073 (OP)
>if billionaire is kill I automatically become billionaire
Brilliant. When everyone is a billionaire, no-one will be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmSO2cz2ozQ
Regardless, here is a quicker and equally effective solution: just put more zeroes on your banknotes.
Now if you just told us to kill kikes...

>>509242475
>force the billionaires out
Where do you think they're going to go, dumbass?

>>509242073 (OP)
why are democrat-run shitholes always retardedly expensive ghettos? Whose economic interest is high taxes coupled with benefits that only apply to negroes and criminals?

>>509242843
>because most people who are right wing are low iq and are suffering from stockholm syndrome
Please explain to me how me being taxed for being white and having the state run everything is “in my interests.” That is all I’m getting out of the lefty fuckwits.

>>509243260
Bermuda, Monaco, Luxembourg, etc

>>509243166
>>509243260
Places that don't go after them I imagine Its not hard to rub two brain cells together though if you are a leftoid I guess that might be one too many for you

>>509243125
funny thing is in PA we had a semi-workaround to our retarded beer and liquor laws for a time when we added our brewery laws, so that if you brewed/distilled your own alcohol, you could sell it without getting fucked by taxes and regulation. our governor made damned sure that these establishments were hurt as much as possible during COVID to kill them off. more than half the breweries around me are gone now.

>>509242475
I'd say that's an improvement over being a country of homeless fent crackheads.

>>509242978
>but it comes at the expense of the worsening conditions for workers, customers, patients, etc.
ultimately this is good since most 3rd positionists myself included seek freedom from the false dichotomy of both judeo-captalism and bolshivism and the orange kike is coming along nicely to be the American Gorbachev with how impotent he truly is, Dr William Luther Pierce said the only way we win is if the fed kills itself by draining itself to the point where it can no longer fund basic needs of the plebs such as medicare and welfare and the BBB does just that
>so it's just happening with people just having faith in Trump and afraid to step out of line.
if trump literally told his cultists to take cyanide to own the libs you would have faggots from /ptg/ screeching about how /pol/ has been invaded by leftists

>>509243380
>Bermuda, Monaco, Luxembourg
Name the biggest corporations in Bermuda, Monaco and Luxembourg

Communists cannot understand how hated and reviled they are. They all think they know what's best for everyone and anyone who doesn't agree with them is dumb and must be tricked or forced into agreeing with them. In reality everybody with a brain already knows how evil and selfish communists really are and reject them outright.
The ironic part is how many well known billionaires there are who support leftoid causes.

>>509243140
What's the source on that?

>>509243166
Except companies do go elsewhere, Why the hell do you think New York is a "Food Desert" in the first place? Niggers wouldn't stop stealing from them so said companies closed those stores.

>>509243394
Where?

>>509243140
That's never how it happens. When communists get their way we get nothing but fraud and corruption. Our money goes into the pockets of a few well-positioned shysters.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/feds-announce-massive-takedown-of-medicare-fraud-suspects-in-operation-gold-rush/ar-AA1HIpdN

TWITTER!!!!!!!!!

>>509243622
The entire ACA was a tax on the middle class to pay for worthless niggers.

>>509243053
Yeah, you can stop whenever, just one more though

>>509242073 (OP)
Because I hate brownoids

Shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods. - Zohran Mamdani

>>509242073 (OP)
How is turning NYC into Caracas in my economic interest?

>>509242928
watch yoursef anon you are in the danger zone.

>>509243380
>>509243394
So then you go after their businesses you idiots.
You think fucking Jeff Bezos is going to stop servicing America because we decide to stop letting him skirt taxes?

The largest economy in the world will be avoided because we expect these people with dedicated hotlines to help their employees get on government assistance to pay their fair fucking share as if it corporations didn't pay insane taxes 50 years ago.

Lets assume for a moment that they DID pull out of the country (they won't, you're stupid if you even think that) another company will fill their extremely lucrative place.

>>509242728
Rope is not that expensive.

>>509243822
The problem is that the rats will flee NYC and probably move to an area near you if the taxes are good. But then they will vote for the same policies that cause NYC to turn into a shithole.

>>509243785
Yep. Remember when republicucks said they wanted to read the whole thing in its entirety and the demoshits said fuck off? Now the demoshits want to spitefully read the entirety of this new bill. Republicucks should take this opportunity to make that a rule for every bill from now on, but they're cowards or in on the take so they wont, they'll just politick about like they usually do.

>>509243636
>Why do you think this made up scenario is happening?
dumbass.

>>509243622
Obama raised the fuck out of middle class taxes, this was well known back then
>>509243703
Ask your teacher lil timmy

>>509243541
>William Luther Pierce said the only way we win is if the fed kills itself by draining itself to the point where it can no longer fund basic needs of the plebs such as medicare and welfare and the BBB does just that
But this isn't an accident, it's what him and his billionaire cabinet want. They want government too weak to stand in the way of corporate interests.

Does anyone actually care what happens to New York?

>>509242073 (OP)
What do you mean? It lies in my economic interests that there exists billionaires, despite the fact that I myself am not a billionaire. If you fail to understand why, it is only because you have a one-dimensional, single-staged thinking and probably shouldn't vote.

>>509243446
Damn that sucks. I do like a good brewery visit every now and then. Governors all lost their minds during the pandemic.

>>509242073 (OP)
Why do leftists vote against their lives?

>>509243311
>taxed for being white
yeah not a big fan of that either but him taxing rich jews is good
>having the state run everything is “in my interests.
Do you not pay taxes to the government? It SHOULD do basic things such as keep basic necessities and things running, oh wait I forgot the only purpose of the state according to retard republican voters like yourself (which is funny because the gop has done nothing for Whites) is having the privilege of being taxed and the money sent off to some foreign nation like israel because any sort of state intervention is soviet communism and the only purpose of governments is to tax its citizens.

>>509243981
No, anon, you don't understand, that other anon consulted a bot that will say whatever it's programmed to say. He won the argument.

>>509243573
>let me do research for you
Fuck off, fag. They keep records private specifically to attract these people. Also, you drooling retard, we're talking about billionaires, not corporations.

Nevertheless, I have done business with several Bermuda-based reinsurance companies who have >$5B AUM. Taking this conversation any further would we a waste since you obviously have no idea how this shit works.

>>509242073 (OP)
He's right we shouldn't have billionaires ideally
The issue is that whenever you hear people like him say that there is a bunch of other stuff hiding behind that sentiment and history has shown that again and again.

>>509242073 (OP)
we don't
as you can see with the 6ig 6eautiful 6ill, those we put in office vote against our interests

>>509243785
>>509243981
The premise was that the richest didn't get taxed more and they did. The claim was that the rich didn't get taxed more, only the middle class.

>>509243978
>Its Not happening! Okay it is happening but it isn't!
please kys kike,

>>509242073 (OP)
Begging for free shit is t in anyone’s best interests, you Jewish faggot nigger lover

>>509243806
It ain't problem. So I will have another. Lol AA fags will have you think that two drinks a week is the definition of an alcoholic. So I just remind myself that self serving over reacting pussies live in my midst.

>>509243166
lmao a Canadian talking about policy. Ask your welfare doctor to put you on a euthanasia list.

>>Also implying education equals intelligence.

You really are a liberal faggot lmao

>>509243380
>>509243573
>>509244102
US economy: $30 trillion (with a T)
Economies of Bermuda, Monaco, and Luxembourg: about $100 billion (with a B) combined.
That's less than half of Jeff Bezos net worth.
How do all the billionaires in the US become billionaires without the US economy?
Are you White enough to answer that question? Or are you another nigger who works at walmart and knows nothing. Show me how White you are.

>>509243622
That 3.8% Obamacare tax is hilarious. $200k is a middle class household anymore, and that tax goes to nothing beneficial to anybody.

>>509244038
No, as long as it doesn't take us down with it
>>509244079
They are cultists

>>509244055
>economic elite
Obama had one billionaire on his cabinet, Biden had none. Trump has 13 billionaires on his cabinet, in direct control of the BBB and you're posting fun theories about the economic elite not being these billionaires in control, but the socialists? Who specifically do you mean?

>>509242314
Apparently funding all the gibs programs, turning kids trans, and sending everyone to war.

>>509243896
>another
>that also leaves
GG

>>509243896
>So then you go after their businesses you idiots
Ireland would love this, you economically-illiterate faggit

>>509244316
$200k wasn't middle class then and it isn't middle class now. "Upper middle-class" is $100k in Texas.

>>509242073 (OP)
J

>>509242073 (OP)
Billionaires are kikes and now /pol/ is shilling for billionaire kikes. Man these jews are really something

>>509244021
>too weak
Tell me when billionaires have a military.

>>509242073 (OP)
why do stupid niggers and browns?

>>509244021
>But this isn't an accident, it's what him and his billionaire cabinet want.
Yeah but because our billionaire class is impotent they are like the Roman Senate in the final days of the Western Roman Empire constantly wondering why everything they are doing is making the situation worse despite it being the same status quo for when the Roman Empire was at its peak they still truly believe that trickledown economics was a massive success and the only way to save America is to implement it again
>They want government too weak to stand in the way of corporate interests.
The corpos and the federal government are already intertwined so heavily if one were to be defenestrated the other would follow as well

>>509244394
>no billionaires
>received the most funding of any politician ever
Oooooooooooooooooof

>>509244536
The IRS have guns, but they aren't collecting shit if they don't have the funds to audit corporations with educated and trained forensic accountants and then pay for the lawyers to take them to court. Why does this need to be explained to you?

>>509244623
>trickle down
You know nothing about economics.

>Stephen was the real king of candy land
>cries when what's essentially his son/means of power and freedom dies
what did he mean by this?

>>509244739
>you need 40,000 agents to audit less than 100 people
RETARD

>>509244394
Obama's entire cabinet was selected by the bank, before he was even elected, they all work for the bank.

Biden's cabinet had zero US citizens
every single one of them have israeli passports

>>509242073 (OP)
Because they're uneducated regards

>>509244215
No, your scenario is fucking retarded.
There's a difference between not earning more than you're losing from stealing and not doing business.

Not doing business in a nigger infested neighborhood that steals everything is vastly different to completely shutting down your business across a country and moving to fucking El Salvador because you have to pay more. Congratulations you decreased your market by 1000 fold and opened the doors to someone willing to play ball for their 200million instead of 20billion.

You're under the misconception that most businesses that billionaires own aren't already multinational and how it's economically fucking retarded to ignore a market of 350million in the wealthiest nation in the world because you have to suddenly play fair.
>>509244477
>HURRRRRRRR THIS COUNTRY WITH A FRACTION OF YOUR POPULATION DID IT AND IT DIDNT WORK THAT MEANS THE WORLDS LARGEST ECONOMY WOULD BE ABANDONED URRRRRRRRGGG
You're so fucking smart regurgitating pragerU you fucking witless ultra nigger.

>>509244831
When you post information like this the brain of leftoids just shut down because their programming can't operate when faced when actual facts

>>509244295
>How do all the billionaires in the US become billionaires without the US economy?
Dear God you commie fags are stupid.
Through government contracts, you retard. Given to them by the politicians they fund. Using tax dollars that actual productive members of society pay (unlike you).

What the fuck makes you think that you have to be in the US to sell shit or invest here? If you are over the age of 15, you are hopelessly stupid and should kill yourself.

>>509244741
Wealth will never trickle down, capital will always be accumulated and concentrated at the top since this behavior is heavily encouraged and rewarded in a capitalist system

>>509244102
>Also, you drooling retard, we're talking about billionaires, not corporations.
If somebody does business in the US, then they pay taxes to the US government. So "leaving the US" means nothing if you don't take your business with you.
> I have done business with several Bermuda-based reinsurance companies who have >$5B AUM.
And if you're doing business with them, then they are operating in the US, so you've proven my point that billionaires rely on the US economy to maintain their wealth. So it's almost as if your "they're going to leave the US" Fox News talking point was invented by kikes to make niggers like you own nothing and be happy.

>>509242073 (OP)
The only other thing to vote for is "kill whitey".

>>509244614
Blacks are fully capable of being self sufficient. Unless I haven't been aware of the hundreds of thousands of years of white occupation in africa prior to when we commonly understand

>>509244528
Again, you retards show how out of touch you are with reality. That's household income. There's nobody surviving well on a personal income of $50k per year, even in Texas.

>>509244623
>The corpos and the federal government are already intertwined so heavily if one were to be defenestrated the other would follow as well
That's not the case at all. Why would it be? You expect the public to be perfectly educated about which companies gave what politician money and then also follow that politicians history of supporting interests they paid them off? Are you retarded? Government leadership can change every 4 years, any sort of upheaval there isn't going to make the mob go for the execs and investors. Most see billionaires as somehow victims of the government, they aren't going to figure it all out on the fly and punish the correct people, they'll just take it out on government.

>>509242073 (OP)
The middle class pays the taxes not the billionaires so when there are tax cuts we get a lot of it.

>>509244086
>yeah not a big fan of that either but him taxing rich jews is good
I get this but the enemy of my enemy is not my friend. You’re shooting yourself in the foot to own the jews by supporting anti-white retards.
>Do you not pay taxes to the government?
I pay 23% of my income to the feds. They consistently piss it away. I do not have confidence in government to run grocery stores. Sorry.
>It SHOULD do basic things such as keep basic necessities and things running
What do you consider “basic necessities” and what needs to be “running.” I ask for specifics because lefty fuckwits cannot staple down a workable definition.
>oh wait I forgot the only purpose of the state according to retard republican voters like yourself (which is funny because the gop has done nothing for Whites) is having the privilege of being taxed and the money sent off to some foreign nation like israel because any sort of state intervention is soviet communism and the only purpose of governments is to tax its citizens.
But it is fine when those taxes are increased on whites to pay for the brown people that are to be imported? Are you truly naive enough to buy into the bullshit of progressive grad students who come from wealth? You can tone it down with the smarmy comments.

Top 1% pay 45% of all taxes
If you think working for someone is all exploitation like a good communist then consider what will happen to your taxes and the services those taxes pay for when the 1% leaves

>>509242356
Alcoholics go to meetings
Anon sounds frugal with his consumerism

>>509244831
And don't forget his "Obamacare" pretty much monopolized healthcare, the reason why it's so expensive now is because you have NO CHOICE but to pay whatever they demand. Before there was competition between insurance providers which drives price down, and hospitals were incentivised to keep costs low or they would get stiffed on the bill. Now? Hospitals can rack up charges (which you can't see) and insurance companies can hike rates as high as they want.

>>509244831
>zero US citizens
The first one was born in New York. Do you want to move the goalposts or should I keep going?

>>509244887
Holy fuck The original Anon was talking about what companies would close down their businesses.

And I gave him a fucking answer, Grocery stores closed down their stores in areas with high shop lifting because it wasn't profitable for them to be there in the first place.

The Taxes Imposed on people in NYC wouldn't effect everywhere in the god dam US. It would just cause companies and people to close shop in NYC and focus on other areas of the US.

>>509242073 (OP)
Why do billionaires agree with the paki? Not Sus at all

>>509242314
Universal healthcare and tax cuts for middle class

>>509244887
>largest market
>commie policy crashes economy (every time)
>the wealthy leave
>they still do business but now pay ZERO tax
It's White flight.

>>509244930
Feel free to start a collective.
You won't because you're lazy and retarded. Capitalism doesn't exclude the ability to have communal systems.

>>509242475
>Yes lets force all the billionares out, the people who bring in the commerce
>>509244925
>What the fuck makes you think that you have to be in the US to sell shit or invest here?
I'm the only White Man on this board.

>>509245273
>ignores Citibank literally picked Obama’s cabinet
Lol. Lmao. You’ll never learn.

>>509245020
Being self sufficient doesn't mean they are thriving, though, but, yes, I am all in to let them have their own shitho... I mean, Wakanda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrqhPrW1U7Y

>>509242475
Yeah China who is heavily regulated has second largest billionaire population and is on path to surpassing USA.

>>509244930
>capital
Which is then sold or created.
>jobs
Which people get and therefore increase their earnings.
>costs
Driven down by production and competition.

>>509244951
>If somebody does business in the US, then they pay taxes to the US government. So "leaving the US" means nothing if you don't take your business with you.
Wait until you find out about the Panama Papers, you silly little child.
>And if you're doing business with them, then they are operating in the US, so you've proven my point that billionaires rely on the US economy to maintain their wealth. So it's almost as if your "they're going to leave the US" Fox News talking point was invented by kikes to make niggers like you own nothing and be happy.
You're hopeless. Nice goalpost shift, dumbass.

>>509245496
It's so heavily regulated that even their billionaires are regulated as they regularly disappear and are never seen again :^)

>>509242073 (OP)
Billionaires are literally propped up by the CIA in order to allow the government to control the markets and collect data on its citizenry.

Every rightoid welder thinks he's going to be a billionaire any day now.

>>509242314
Collective ownership of crucial resources, industries and services.

>>509245151
They don't understand that the middle class is the MAJORITY of the population and therefore pays the majority of taxes. You simply CAN'T tax billionaires the amount you can tax the middle class.

>>509242303
The point of state run liquor stores is to keep prices high to reduce consumption. It's done out of concern for "public health", usually in Republican states.
I don't see how this compares with wanting to operate city-operated grocery stores in areas of the city where there is no profit-incentive to open grocery operations. Sure, there are bodegas there but they don't necessarily provide fresh goods on the level a grocer would. The alternative is that people have to travel hours both ways to buy food.
The point is to step in where the free market fails. There are many such gaps in society because free markets aren't infallible.

>>509245020
Blacks lived in africa for thousands of years
then God told the jews to go to africa and kill them all.
Deuteronomy 20:16-18
16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:

18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.

Jews failed

>>509242073 (OP)
>vote against their own economic interests?
lol voters don't have any power of Central bank monetary policy.

>>509242073 (OP)
Zohran openly plans to tax whites more than other races
Mass immigration provably lowers wages
The "conservatives vote against their own interests" line has been illogical and factually incorrect for decades.

>>509245273
>The first one was born in New York
First day here, huh? She's a dual citizen - and blatantly lied when she stated that "inflation is transitory" because it dug the US deeper into debt slavery while enriching her friends. $12T of deficit spending and you didn't get a penny of it.

>>509242475
You literally cant ever enter into billionare gated community
Its them and you with the others outside

>>509245637
Better than a society where you are going to be taxed for being white and rich to pay for hordes of fat niggers to live off welfare forever

>>509245575
>believes this
Lol, the only reason they "dissappear" is because they didn't pay enough bribes lamo.

>>509242073 (OP)
>vote against their own economic interests
People who say things like this should be barred for life from ever being allowed to vote again.
This mindset is precisely why mass democracy and universal suffrage are inevitably doomed to fail.
Democratic systems only work when the only people allowed to vote are adult White male citizens with families who own property, because they are the only people who have the wisdom and foresight to vote for what is in the best interests of the country as a whole in the future, rather than their own immediate individual interests. All of you other niggers and faggots and women and incels will just vote to give yourself more handouts and gibs until everything falls apart.

>>509245273
ADL Says Jews Have No Loyalty To Any Nation But Israel

https://www.bitchute.com/video/b4DR2OWIK2fM/

>>509245321
No, you dipshit the original post YOU responded to was
>this absolute boot licking retard thinks companies will go elsewhere
>This is why trump loves the retarded and uneducated
>hurrrr but dey did leaf dey food desert?
You are most definitely one of these if you genuinely think businesses will leave the largest economic hub in the fucking country because they shut down a couple stores in negroville, USA.
Furthermore, no, the point was not
>billionaires shouldn't exist....in NYC only!
It's billionaires shouldn't exist flat, and no fucking billionaire is abandoning the USA nor its markets because they suddenly have less than infinity monopoly money.
>>509245418
>commie policy crashes market
Funny, that commie policy is explicitly why these people became billionaires. There is no such thing as a free market in the USA when multinational titans exist and subvert your politicians for corporate socialism.

>>509245637
>believes this
No I just don't want %40+ of my earnings robbed from me.

>>509245496
Their billionaires are all high ranking party members with the exception of a handful who are propped up for propaganda purposes. Until they get out of line.

>>509245773
So what? Any whites living in New York get exactly what they deserve living in a blue state

>>509245562
>goalpost shift
See >>509245433 you're the one who doesn't seem to know what this conversation is about.

>>509242843
you refuted pricesly zero points raised by the posts you quoted and resorted to screeching "cattle" over and over again. will you stop acting like a disingenuous nigger or will you perish like a dog?

>>509242314
Your economic interests are policies designed to make your money go further, improve your access to affordable health care, improve your kids' access to good education, improve your working conditions while ensuring strong pay... it's not difficult to figure out what it means when you sit down and think about the ways your life could economically be better.
Most here have no idea how hard they're squeezed.
https://eattherichtextformat.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

>>509242073 (OP)
test

>>509245891
>corporate socialism
Which is why we need a true free market.

>>509245686
>usually in Republican states.
Oh yeah, the deep red states of Delaware, PA, and Maryland

>>509242073 (OP)
Because left-wing politicians never dare to go after the top 0.01%, they don't go after top 1%. Socialists are paid off by the same people as conservatives. Their "groundbreaking tax the rich scheme" always ends up hurting the middle class, makes it better for the poors, and makes it a whole lot better for billionaires.

>>509242073 (OP)
Because they're spiteful slaves

>>509246018
>your interests are these buzzwords
My life would be better if 23% of my income didn’t get pissed away for fantastic party programs.

>>509246018
>eat the rich
Kill the poor. We need 60-100 million dead leftists to fix America.

>>509242314
>nondescript commie replies
typical, seething, non-answers that disregard the economy for its use in a new description; "economy" lmao, fuck off

>>509246094
Non-White dumbass.

>>509246003
>see this post where I referenced the shill manual that says to accuse others of being brown if you're too retarded to make an actual argument
Good one, dipshit

>>509246272
>the pic of the very motherfucker that destroyed the middle class and cemented the 1%
LAMO

>>509246018
When has the government ever done any of those things?

>>509245841
Or perhaps they had enough money and bought illegal products of [Disney's Forbidden Character] for their daughters.
One can never be too careful around them, I tell you.

>>509245487
Thriving is relative. If blacks were ACTUALLY left alone. They would have massive chaos at first, then they would stabilize and go back to the stone age and have a sustainable population size. Why would blacks want to do anything other than run around killing animals and dancing? Only reason why is because of whites. Blacks would never had industrialized themselves therefore they wouldn't have the demographic problems that plague them. With all the wealth that mansa musa had how could you say they aren't capable of creating great lives for themselves? It's really your fault that they struggle.

>>509242843
The "right-wing means corpo-slave" is only something socialists and libertarians believe. Right Wing comes from the French revolution and has little to do with economics. Just because neo-cons/neo-libs are capitalist bootlickers doesn't mean "right wing" gets defined by them. Noone actually right wing is libertarian.

>>509246272
>posts a cryptojew
this has to be bait

>>509246347
How big was the middle class in the 1930s vs the 40s 50s and 60s
>I'm not going to do your research for you!
FDR oversaw the largest expansion of the middle class of ANY country in HISTORY.
If you're White, prove me wrong.

My father lived through fucking communist poland. Tell me how communism is in my economic best interest.

>>509246551
Expansion caused by global economics that created a situation where labor was valuable due to manufacturing capacity being diminished across the world.

Historically and economically illiterate, you must be a commie

>>509246018
i want you dead

>>509246551
>FDR was President in the 50s and 60s
>calls others non-white
You are legitimately stupid.

>>509242073 (OP)
because I went to college

>>509246745
>wtf i love globalism now
So which countries saw the same rapid expansion of the middle class?

>>509246791
His policies were still in effect. The kid-fucking kikes that you worship started dismantling them in the 70s.

>>509246403
>They would have massive chaos at first
At first, second, and third, I would say.
>then they would stabilize and go back to the stone age
Not a long gap, alright.
>have a sustainable population size
By having a baby too many and killing the 20ish and above in relatively same proportions. Should we call it a dynamic balance like we do in physical-chemistry?
>Blacks would never had industrialized themselves therefore they wouldn't have the demographic problems that plague them
Though industrialization brings new problems (e.g. Diabetes), it also brings increases life-expectancy. The problem is not having a Ford factory in one's city, I am pretty sure.
>Mansa Musa
Nice. A single person hoarding lots of riches. Did those riches went to the grave with him?

>>509242073 (OP)
Can't trust anyone who believes billionaires or jews should lead a nation

>>509245773
>Zohran openly plans to tax whites more than other races

The whites will move, rather than paying high taxes, NYC will become Alcatraz.
He is making the police KGB

>>509242073 (OP)
Go be poor somewhere else.

>>509245496
China has 860 Billionaires
814 of them are jews
they own a billion slaves

>>509246150
>>509246376
It's done a better job in the past, particularly coming out of the Great Depression. But those policies were slowly taken away, along with the Middle Class they helped created.
That's why it was so much better in the late 40s, 50s, and 60s. Yes, being an intact country after everyone else was destroyed helped. But we also had policies which ensured all of us got a cut instead of having that money just go to the wealthiest. The top tax bracket on the very wealthiest was 95%. Wealth disparities work against you because it's a fixed system so those with more wealth than you have more leverage over the whole pie.
Again, look at the chart. Anyone simping for the top .001% is simping for people literally see the rest of us as less than ants. Why do you want these people to have control over your life? Advocate for a system where you have more of a voice and greater control over the society you live in.
It's your powerlessness that makes you so mad, and they're the ones who tell you who to be mad at so you won't be mad at them.

>>509245951
>Their billionaires are all high ranking party members
The Zhao family owns China. They are the party.

>>509246985
>His policies were still in effect.
Not really. By the 1940s the US economy was shifted towards wartime production which left the new deal programs by the wayside. Really the only lasting effects of the New Deal were the over-expansive use of the commerce clause (Wickard v. Filburn) and making the economy dependent on federal spending which is why the New Deal policies caused a recession within a depression from 1937-1938.
>The kid-fucking kikes that you worship
If you seriously think FDR wasn’t a crypto-kike with connections in banking and Wall Street you’re even dumber than I thought.
>dismantling them in the 70s.
Until Wickard is overturned nothing has been dismantled.

>>509245484
Your unsourced statements don't mean much when you're lying about who is an American citizen. Banks play both sides and dems are mostly centrist neolibs, so I don't expect Obama to not bail them out. The original statement is that leftists in power (dems, I'm assuming) promise to raise taxes on the upper class and only raise taxes on the middle class. That's been disproven and the massive cope that resulted is now saying Trump's family aren't American citizens.

>>509245795
>>509245886
lmao

>>509246597
At least your father didn't clean toilets in Germany geeeeeeeeeg

>>509247928
>studying topics in-depth makes you stupid
That's some heavy duty cope you've got going there.

>>509247179
still better than being subjugated. Life as a huntergatherer or a herder is pretty fucking good if no one else tries to advance to the next era.
>Nice. A single person hoarding lots of riches. Did those riches went to the grave with him?
An absurd point to bring up considering that this isn't a purely African phenomenon. You currently have the greatest number of whites engaging in such a behavior of all time(boomers)

Do shitskins really sit around seething all day that people who have more than them exist?
Are they too low IQ to wrap their minds around the fact that resources will always be unevenly distributed no matter what you do? They think "the system" is why rich people exist. If we did away with all of these manmade systems and returned to a state of nature not only would people with more resources still exist, they would also just kill you

>>509242073 (OP)
dems make life worse culturally and republicans make life worse economically. either way kikes win

>>509242073 (OP)
Both parties are shit and have been shit since billionaires were able to loophole around lobbying and unanimously support jews. The fact that people still fall for this whole "My team is better than your team!" mentality when both parties have been actively fucking the US over in different ways is proof that George Washington's criticisms towards the party system were true and its only gonna get worse from here

>>509247596
>It's done a better job in the past, particularly coming out of the Great Depression.
Anon, the only reason we got out of the depression was wartime manufacturing. We were quite literally the only industrialized country that wasn’t bombed to shit after so we made massive profits after as well. The New Deal actively caused a recession.
>The top tax bracket on the very wealthiest was 95%.
Yeah, and it was only supposed to be for the very wealthy when the income tax was implemented in 1919 in exchange for prohibition and now I’m paying 23% of my income away to a bunch of fucking retards who want more money. Enough.
>Why do you want these people to have control over your life? Advocate for a system where you have more of a voice and greater control over the society you live in.
I don’t. Nor do I want morons like you pretending you know best for everyone else. I don’t like billionaires. I don’t like progressives. I don’t like lefties. As far as I’m concerned you’re a tool of monied interests advocating for more control over my life out of a misguided sense of altruism. You’re bleating out talking points.

>>509248169
It's more like finance deregulation and lowering of corporate taxes cause value to go to execs and investors rather than to workers and consumers. It's like how having more staff at Dollar General or more 24/7 food options is a net positive for workers and customers, but there's too much incentive to cut costs and increase profit. That increased profit is then used to further control government.

>>509246985
>So which countries saw the same rapid expansion of the middle class?
Canada. The only two white countries who weren't bombed to shit or completely destabilized by WW2.

You have to be a zoomer to be this ignorant of a faggit.

>>509248169
No, but when they realize there's no route to victory, they do the non cuck thing and flip the table. Whites on other hand literally get condescended into trooning out to be considered more socially acceptable. Fucking insane. When your superiors are choosing this route them flipping the table is absolutely the only non cucked option.

But I guess you're happy to be a slop consoomer for eternity.

>>509247863
>Your unsourced statements don't mean much when you're lying about who is an American citizen.
Here.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/15/wiki-o15.html
>The original statement is that leftists in power (dems, I'm assuming) promise to raise taxes on the upper class and only raise taxes on the middle class.
When the income tax was implemented it was assumed it would only apply to a handful of Americans. Now the majority of Americans pay some kind of income tax. Yes, they promise to raise taxes on the wealthy then raise taxes on everyone else. This is historical fact.

>>509247596
>The top tax bracket on the very wealthiest was 95
>I don't know what effective tax rates are and get my dumbfuck talking points from reddit

>>509248063
studying in depth

after you take Chem 101, Chem102... Chem201, Chem202..... you realize that there is a Chem1401 and it hits you like a ton of bricks that you don't know shit, and half of what they taught you was wrong.

It's indoctrination, not education

>>509242073 (OP)
coveting is idolatry

>>509247863
>lmao
I hope you're enjoying that inflation that's never going away, and will continue to erode the value of few dollars in your pocket as we refinance that deficit spending + interest every year for the rest of your life.

You're a slave cheering on your own slavery, tranny retard.

>>509248743
STEM programs produce cubicle workers.
STEM intentionally avoids Arts, Humanities... literally anything that girls might be interest in.
So obviously STEM students won't be talking to girls, or even have anything to talk about, that girls might be interested in.
Keep them in their cubicle, chasing the dream that they will make an amazing discovery that will make their boss rich and they will get headpats. Eliminate all the drama that relationships bring to the workplace. Meanwhile girls are given management positions supervising the STEMbots, to sexually frustrate them, and make them think the only way to get a promotion is by wearing a dress, and cutting their dick off.

>>509248115
>still better than being subjugated
I agree. Being free is better than anything. I hope Africans, some day, stop enslaving each other.
>Life as a huntergatherer or a herder is pretty fucking good if no one else tries to advance to the next era
Also agreed - and also on-topic. We don't need to be billionaires to be happy. In fact, that would prove more of a hustle for most of us. I don't want to live on cocaine to fulfill my schedule.
>An absurd point to bring up
Not by me, though.
>considering that this isn't a purely African phenomenon
Precisely. It's a universal phenomenon, from the smallest tribes in my jungle-country to the kikest American cities. Economy is not only about money, but resources, power, and their scarcities.
>boomers
People who were happy in their early days and want to remain happy in their final days. With all power they have, they won't simply hand it over, yes.

the average /pol/tard midwit line of thinking goes something like this:
>I dont want (insert good thing here) because it would also benefit brown people

>>509248743
Basic economics is just rationale. If you don't get it, it's because you're stupid.

>>509242073 (OP)
Those of us on the right work and dont want to pay taxes. Cry harder you pathetic leftist government leech.

>>509247844
You want to talk about cryptos?

>>509242073 (OP)
If you propose a cap on wealth, who is to say what the cap is and who is allowed to lower it and when? We should be setting precedent for someone in the future to say how many things the average person has?

>>509248405
>Anon, the only reason we got out of the depression was wartime manufacturing.
You basically are just repeating what I already said. That's only part of the picture.
Your ancestors got a cut because of policies that redistributed the wealth that would have otherwise been hoarded by the top. That's how unregulated capitalism works (and I'm not against capitalism at all - capitalism is great. But understand that an unregulated system *only* works in the favor of those who control it at the top).
>Yeah, and it was only supposed to be for the very wealthy when the income tax was implemented in 1919 in exchange for prohibition and now I’m paying 23% of my income away to a bunch of fucking retards who want more money. Enough.
You shouldn't be paying higher taxes. That's what you don't understand. Those at the top shift the tax burden down on you so they don't pay their full share.
I don't know how much you understand about progressive taxation, but you only pay rates on money you make over a certain amount. A 95% tax on every dollar made over a billion wouldn't affect your life even slightly and you are brainwashed if you think otherwise as you are not a temporarily embarrassed billionaire.
You will never be a billionaire.
>I don’t. Nor do I want morons like you pretending you know best for everyone else. I don’t like billionaires. I don’t like progressives. I don’t like lefties. As far as I’m concerned you’re a tool of monied interests advocating for more control over my life out of a misguided sense of altruism. You’re bleating out talking points.
You have a lot of hate in you and it clouds your reason. I'm not spreading talking points. I used to be a conservative and used to think like you until I opened my fucking eyes. You don't even understand the policies you hate.
You can type in condescending tones all you want but it doesn't mean you know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>509247231
Well that’s both parties so…

>>509248657
>Citigroup’s recommendations came just three days after then-President George W. Bush signed into law the Troubled Asset Relief Program, which allocated $700 billion in taxpayer money to rescue the largest Wall Street banks. The single biggest beneficiary was Citigroup, which was given $45 billion in cash in the form of a government stock purchase, plus a $306 billion government guarantee to back up its worthless mortgage-related assets.

>Then-presidential candidate Obama played a critical political role in shepherding the massively unpopular bank bailout through Congress. The September financial crash convinced decisive sections of the US corporate-financial elite that the Democratic candidate of “hope” and “change” would be better positioned to contain popular opposition to the bailout than his Republican rival, Senator John McCain of Arizona.

Great information, thank you, but I'm having trouble finding the source on what's said here. This links the emails, but not the lists:
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/wikileaks-obama-white-house-230114

Either way, the initial claim was that leftists say they'll raise taxes on the rich and then don't. Now it's they say they'll only raise taxes on the rich and do, but also also the middle class can be taxed more.

>>509242475
>who bring in the commerce
Is that why they bring in foreign jeets for the jobs and headquarter in Delaware or Ireland for every possible tax loophole?
Yeah they sure do contribute bro

>>509242303
My friends buy me liquor and then it just sits in my pantry for years.

>>509248734
LMAO. You're mischaracterizing what I said out of some desperate cope.
Because that's all you've got. Insults and mischaracterizations. You don't understand actual economic policy because you're a cucked brainlet who effectively sucks billionaire cock.
I understand effective tax rates just fine. I was talking purely about the top tax bracket retard.
Every dollar over a certain amount was taxed 95%.
Obviously no one paid 95% of their earnings in taxes dipshit.

>>509242073 (OP)
I have no personal affinity for billionaires

>>509249723
>jews agreed to not use their people on the planning board to torpedo Frank's development if he carved out a piece for them

>>509242073 (OP)
Billionnaires are proof the system is inefficient at wealth distribution. I don't think many of the people here even grasp just how much wealth that is.

>>509250258
They don't. Otherwise they'd grasp that wealth in a system is a zero sum game and represents leverage they themselves do not have.
And billionaires have an unfathomable amount of leverage in our system.
https://eattherichtextformat.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

>>509250076
>I was just throwing a disingenuous leftist talking point out there
No, you really don't get it if you think this metric has any value at all. You could write off almost anything as an expense.

>>509250144
Uh huh and what is Zion Don's excuse? You just know this family larped a christian to avoid exile from whatever country they were subverting at the time.
>but FDR had a home in upstate new york, this is proof that he's jewish

>>509250324
What the total sum of billionnaires represents is the extent of how corrupt that economic system is

>>509242073 (OP)
>Why do leftoids vote against their own economic interests?

And freedom in general?
Do you just like gulags?
You like only traveling if you have permission?
You like queuing for food?
The idea that your jobs will be the same as your parents, and social standing, never moving out of it?

>Go on argue that that doesn't happen, despite it happening Every Single Time

>>509242073 (OP)
China has truly won.

>>509250324
>wealth in a system is a zero sum game
That's amazing. How long do you think this has been happening and how much wealth has Jeff Bezos taken that rightfully belongs to you?

>>509250380
Good god, how fucking stupid are you. Do you even know what you're arguing against you retard.
The point has nothing to do with effective tax rates. The point is that there was a standard, an understanding that if you made over x amount, more of your money should go back into society.
The point is that we don't need to raise taxes on people making tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, or even low millions. The point is that maybe we ought to consider raising taxes on people making tens of millions, hundreds of millions, and perhaps capping the amount you make make once your yearly profits are in the billions.
You're never going to make that much money. Why do you simp for those who do at your expense?

>>509250718
Because The Man On TV tells them to.

>>509242073 (OP)
((They)) just change votes as they see fit.

>>509250695
You're missing the forest for the trees.
Wealth represents power in our society. The power that individuals like Bezos and other billionaires wield comes at your expense.
Why do you want to be ruled by these people? Why do you desperately suck their cocks here in this thread trying to preserve their right to do so?

>>509250598
>the BBB is a repeat of a tax cut so bad even Trump was saying "I didn't know they would just do stock buy backs, I thought they'd hire more people"
>anon reaches across history to make a point out of Soviet bread lines
Stock buy backs should be illegal. That's not communist, its pre-Reagan America.

>>509242073 (OP)
HAHA. it's funny because he's calling them house niggers

The foundations of the economy were legitimately strong before covid came along and made everyone crap the bed. The stimmy checks were probably necessary at the time but we're still shaking off the effects of them plus the overreaction to the chink flu. The infinite growth machine was actually working and real wages were on the rise before those gains got wiped out by covidflation.

>>509250899
>suck their cocks
I was trying to talk about wealth, where did gay sex come into it?
Nevermind, I don't really care what some faggot thinks. Die of AIDS you degenerate pervert.

>>509251137
I was about to buy a house before covid happened. I will never forgive those fucking kikes for screwing me out of home ownership.

>>509249379
Perfect.
Some images speak more than a thousand words.

>>509250718
THIS

>>509245133
>You expect the public to be perfectly educated about which companies gave what politician money and then also follow that politicians history of supporting interests they paid them off?
Of course not but the only reason these companies are so powerful is because the Fed allows them to be if the fed disappears then these companies would go belly up since they NEED the taxpayer handouts our government gives them to function
>any sort of upheaval there isn't going to make the mob go for the execs and investors.
>Most see billionaires as somehow victims of the government
Really? Is that why some lefty blew some shabbos goy CEO's brains out in the middle of the day in Downtown NYC and said shooter has countless from females asking him to marry them?
>>509245159
>I get this but the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
Yeah but the GOP is as much an enemy as lefty idiots actually i would argue they are even worse since they act as subversive gatekeepers
> I do not have confidence in government to run grocery stores
Id rather the money go to shitty government dollar stores then be shipped off to israel where we will never see the money again
>What do you consider “basic necessities” and what needs to be “running.
infrastructure, health care, livable wages, subsides, and any basic social benefits given to citizens in most 1st World Western European Nations
>But it is fine when those taxes are increased on whites to pay for the brown people that are to be imported?
>Are you truly naive enough to buy into the bullshit of progressive grad students who come from wealth?
of course not but the ideas proposed by him are good ideas if those said ideas only applied to Whites and i'd rather the sandnigger socialist win because of how much damage he does to the GOP and status quo so much so the GOP has now gotten so blatant they are literally threatening to de-naturalize people for being anti-semetic, accelerationists have been eating real good under this admin

>>509251341
Yeah, you got not response so you desperately have to try turning it around back on me.
Keep simping for billionaires you cuck faggot. Just remember: they're never going to let you anywhere near their club.
Their positions come at your expense, after all. But keep sucking that dick bitch.

>>509246473
>Right Wing comes from the French revolution and has little to do with economics.
Yes of course historically Right Wingers have been in favor of a distributist or mixed economic system but for some reason capitalism a liberal idea is touted by the low human capital/eternal serfs of the right a good example >>509246006 of said low human capital/eternal serf

>>509242475
Where would they go? The US are the most powerful empire ever. They literally forced switzerland to release the name of every us citizen hiding their money here.
+ all their billions come from companies in the US.

Republicans and Democrats are slaves to the same infinite growth hack economy. Democrats are just more open about getting cheap slave labor in the door to fuel it while the debt piles up, while the current admin is more focused on fueling it with tax breaks while the debt piles up and plugging the hole with scattered tariffs.

>>509250815
Memories are buffered all day, and then processed and stored when you sleep.

You have a limited amount of working RAM
so you can't buffer a who day's worth of memory, at some point, you start to overwrite memories from the morning, and those are lost.
The last things that you think about before you sleep, are what gets filed away.

Cult members watch "late night" television, religiously, every night. It's the last thing they think about, and most of their memories of the day are over-written, by whatever the late night host, wants them to think, and that is all they learned that day.
late night television propaganda is big business. there are a lot of people who BELONG to the late-night cult.

rather than wasting your life being programmed for failure by Jimmy Kimmel
turn the tv off in the evening, and just sit and recap what you learned today... keep those memories, don't overwrite them with crap.

>>509249723
>n-no drumpf!
Hilarious.

>>509249849
>You basically are just repeating what I already said.
No. I am saying the New Deal did fuck all to get us out of the depression and actually caused a recession. Very different.
>You shouldn't be paying higher taxes.
But I am. That is reality.
>That's what you don't understand.
No, I understand it very well. The problem is every time “pay their fair share” is mentioned I get taxed as well. Tax the billionaires all you want. I don’t care. What I do care about is the les being peddled to exercise more control over my life. You’re peddling these lies. Historically we played this game of “it’ll only be the 1%.” Everyone got fucked a few years later. This is not in my interests at all and justifies my disdain for American progressives. There is zero reason to trust you.
>ur just hateful bro
>u like don’t understand
>I used to be like you
>but ur the one being condescending
You are spreading talking points. I’ve heard these same talking points for most of my adult life. I’ve spent several years in higher education with the morons who spout them and I know how to spot it a mile away. Assuming your opponent is ignorant because they disagree with you is silly.

>>509251495
As an accelerationist: It's always been rotting. Only now the mask is ripped off and everyone can behold the corpse this nation has been for decades. What is happening is nothing new. They just aren't disguising it anymore. Now suddenly the normies are pissing themselves.

Accelerate.

>>509251595
>Literally obsessed with gay sex and can't stop talking about it.

>>509250076
>Obviously no one paid 95% of their earnings in taxes dipshit.
Yeah they actually paid less than they do nowadays because fucking everything was deductible. We had prosperity post-WWII because of our industrial dominance in spite of high taxes, not because of them.


>>509251595
You claim billionaires have too much power but your solution is to give government bureaucrats that power instead? At least I can choose not to buy from Bezos. I can't choose not to fund your preferred politicians. You're advocating to replace market relationships with government coercion, then claiming this gives the average person more control. If wealth concentration is so bad, why do you want to concentrate it all in DC? At least competing billionaires have to provide value to get my money. Politicians just vote themselves raises or spend it on nigger EBT and Israel.

>>509251495
>Yeah but
No. The enemy of my enemy is not your friend.
>Id rather the money go to shitty government dollar stores then be shipped off to israel where we will never see the money again
How about neither?
>infrastructure, health care
Ok.
>livable wage
What does this mean?
>subsidies
To who?
>basic social benefits given to citizens in most 1st World Western European Nations
How much are you willing to give up for that?
>accelerationists have been eating real good under this admin
I’ll agree with that.

>>509252133
typically when governments get as brazen about shit like this its an indicator of decline there usually is a honeymoon period before unfixable sharp decline, thankfully the orange kike and the GOP are so impotent they are inadvertently speeding up the inevitable
>Now suddenly the normies are pissing themselves.
good

>>509252223
>You claim billionaires have too much power but your solution is to give government bureaucrats that power instead?
If you read the posts, anon is talking about how money is used as leverage to control government. Their wealth is part of why your interests aren't represented.

>>509252090
>Assuming your opponent is ignorant because they disagree with you is silly.
I don't.
I assume you're ignorant because you spout ignorant things.
You complain about talking points, then you go off and spout a whole boatload of them. Talking points with no basis in reality. You misunderstand what I was saying - my point was that you think you're educating me when you're just spouting off a bunch of shit I've already heard, used to believe, and, after I looked into them myself, came to understand as complete bullshit.
>No. I am saying the New Deal did fuck all to get us out of the depression and actually caused a recession. Very different.
This right here is a talking point, for starters. There's very little proof of this assertion outside of claims made by right wing rags and most economists would laugh right in your face for making it.
The New Deal helped spread the wealth that was produced from the manufacturing boom coming out of the war. Most economists would back that statement. You can cope all you want trying to dismiss it as mainstream opinion but what it all boils down to is that you can't prove the situation would have been better *WITHOUT* the New Deal because that didn't happen and historical evidence of your assertion doesn't exist.
>No, I understand it very well. The problem is every time “pay their fair share” is mentioned I get taxed as well.
That's because the people with wealth control the conversation and the system. They tie your interests into your interests.
I'm not talking about raising taxes on people making tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even single digit millions here. I'm talking about increased taxes on every dollar made over ten million, a hundred million, and a billion.
That doesn't affect you. And yeah, there is something you fail to grasp here - you fail to grasp that the highest tax bracket is as low as it is precisely because that's how the wealthy people you're arguing in favor want it.

>>509252090
The problem isn't the "1%". It's the top .001%.
Again - look at the wealth they wield. That represents leverage in the system. Leverage that comes at your expense:
https://eattherichtextformat.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

You think I'm a progressive. I'm not. Both Republicans and Democrats are fucking us over. But you're enabling them both because you're arguing that we ought to keep stuffing the pockets of those that control them.

>>509252449
>The enemy of my enemy is not your friend.
Well with friends like Trumpstein and the GOP, who needs enemies?
>What does this mean?
wages that adjust to inflation aka the excuse the money jews use to artificially inflate the price of goods
>>subsidies
>To who?
local/small businesses and unemployment
>How much are you willing to give up for that?
I do not mind paying higher taxes if it means the better well-being of White America and my local community

>>509252515
the entire economy has been debt-based smoke and mirror games since jews took over in the reagan era. this place has been doomed a long time.

Normies get it when you explain what a private equity group does to businesses (take it over, load it up with debt, cash out, and leave it to collapse behind them) and that they're doing that to the entire country. Occupy Wall Street was our last chance and we failed. Now zoomers don't even know what that was.

our best hope is that this occurs and gets resolved quickly while we're still young enough to recover from it. people who are currently 50/60 are finished.

They may have lost economically
But they gained capitalistically
>smug

>>509250718
Didn't read because you're a dipshit, but previously you were confusing marginal tax rates and effective tax rates.
You have no clue what you're talking about, like every fairy leftist douchebag.

>>509250899
Those people all make their money off of government contracts, that everybody else pays for. The government that you make more powerful with more money, makes them more powerful.

>>509252223
>Yeah they actually paid less than they do nowadays because fucking everything was deductible. We had prosperity post-WWII because of our industrial dominance in spite of high taxes, not because of them.
That's not an argument against having them in the first place.
It's an argument for closing loopholes.

>You claim billionaires have too much power but your solution is to give government bureaucrats that power instead?
Why is it always black-and-white either-this-or-that thinking with you people?
I don't want bureaucrats ruling my life either. I support a capitalist system. But what I recognize is that capitalism has its limits and it behooves us to regulate it.
I didn't say there's a clean solution. But your argument is that we shouldn't bother trying to do better because, hypothetically, the solution is worse while, meanwhile, those with the wealth have no problem pushing society in favor of their whims.
Longer working hours for you. Less vacation time for you. Worse working conditions for you. High government debts so inflation makes your dollars worth more money so you need to work even more. Restricted health care so that you're afraid to quit your job lest something happen to you and you can't afford it. Freedom to pollute the water you drink without regulation because fuck you, they can get bottled. The ability to purchase politicians who don't have to give a flying fuck about what you want because you can't afford to unseat them anyway.
The list goes on and on and you want to let them just have all that and more because solutions are hard.

>>509253558
I confused nothing, I know the difference.
But I understand. You have no fucking argument so you have to set up a strawman and knock that down.
Typical of your type. All the right has is ad hominem, bullying, strawmen, and caricatures you can just dismiss. Never facts. Never reason. But you love to convince yourselves you do.

>>509242073 (OP)
fun fact: alexandre dumas never wrote any of "his" books
he hired a White ghostwriter to do it in his stead
other fun fact: in French, a ghostwriter is called "un nègre", ie a nigger
the moar you know!

>>509253405
personally idk why people who are radical even want to save this degenerate and backwards federal system, the fact that judges and a handful of lower ranking bureaucrats can block any action of the most powerful man in the country goes to show that this system is long past expiration date and needs to be totally torn down and rebuilt from the ground up, it may have worked during enlightenment and during the time of the founders but in the modern era it is totally obsolete

>>509242073 (OP)
So I should hate billionaires out of pure jealousy like the lefties do?

>>509242073 (OP)
>against
You don’t know my economic interests, get fucked

>>509252543
And government contracts are what made all of those billionaires. Name a billionaire who didn't make most of his money from federal contracts.

>>509253672
It's the government *they* make more powerful retard.
You act as though all government policy is created equal. It's not.
They have the money. They buy the politicians by financing their campaigns (bet you love Citizens United even though it's what enabled all this). They tell those politicians what to do and they do it and they go on to put money in their pockets.
It's funny how you'll say what you just said yet I bet you had no problem with Musk running amok throughout the government with a chainsaw after he bought the election in 2024. *And you still can't see that you support the problem here.*

>>509242073 (OP)
Only low iq individuals vote

>>509253802
No, you don't understand, or you wouldn't have made your retarded previous comments where you very blatantly confused the two. A 95% top marginal tax rate means nothing if the effective tax rate for top earners was on par or lower than it is today.

Just go back to rebbit with the other drooling midwits.

>>509253941
That's a different topic. Millionaires were also made on contracts too, the point is moot. If you want to tax government contracts more, cool.

>>509253987
not just
I for one started vooting at 40yo for the following reasons:
1) everything that buggers traitor micron amuses me
2) to force them to cheat so much that it shows (and it indeed does)
3) raising entropy is a goal in itself, because Hiveminds decide the fate of civilizations and feed on entropy
4) if jews insist so much on telling me not to voote bad, it must actually be a great idea
5) I despise democrapcy enough to be amused at spraying shit with moar shit

>>509242314
Not being a retarded faggot but you can't stop

>>509254187
Jesus Christ you are fucking brain dead.
The point wasn't that they paid 95% of their money in taxes you stupid fucking dipshit. I didn't claim they did.
The point was the standard. The standard existed. No, no one paid it but at least there was a point where society said, "Hey, theoretically, people shouldn't be making more than this."
What part of that are you not wrapping your head around you stupid nigger.

>>509253985
>Citizens United
oh lookey here at yet another rebbit talking point. As if government worked just great before that. Did citizens united create the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers?

No, government contracts did.

>>509252812
>my point was that you think you're educating me when you're just spouting off a bunch of shit I've already heard, used to believe, and, after I looked into them myself, came to understand as complete bullshit.
No. I’m calling you a retard and wasting time work because it’s fun and you’re not nearly as clever as you think you are. Please project less.
>I’m not spouting talking points
>proceeds to spout more taking points
This is exactly what I’m talking about. You’re a misguided retard who thinks he knows better because he “looked into it” and now shares options of the mainstream while pretending you’re somehow against the system. It’s absurdly transparent yet you can’t see it because like most progressives you’re high on your quasi-intellectual fart sniffing.
>I'm talking about increased taxes on every dollar made over ten million, a hundred million, and a billion.
The same thing was said when the income tax was implemented. Now I pay income tax.
>>509253268
>I’m not progressive
>he says after ripping the talking points and praising the new deal
I do not believe you because of your own words.
>But you're enabling them both because you're arguing that we ought to keep stuffing the pockets of those that control them.
I haven’t argued anything like the such. I’ve said I hate bilionares, I hate leftists and I hate progressives. I have been consistently saying you’re full of shit and your ideals will not meet reality. I am saying I don’t buy your bullshit because it’s been said for my entire adult life, and frankly for almost 130 years at this point, and all we’ve gotten out of it is more government control, more wealth disparity and a plumiting quality of life thanks to decades of moronic policy decisions. I will argue we are on a course to complete and total collapse that will make the fall of the Soviet Union look like fun and there is zero political solution to it, including a progressive tax.

>>509254339
>The point was the standard
Oh yeah, theoretical standards that did the opposite in practice were what made this country thrive.

The real issue is that we let people like you vote.

>>509254345
>facts are talking points!
>here's some red herrings to try and save my argument by taking this in a different direction
Okay, I think we're done. You obviously constitutionally incapable of debating in good faith.

>>509244922
it doesn't make me FEEL good. so its not true.
THATS a fact. hate is not a fact, its just lies.

>>509253405
>since jews took over in the reagan era
Try the Wilson Administration or earlier.

>>509254468
Kek, and you think I'm the one projecting.
Everything you've written throughout this thread is I'm-smarter-than-you fart sniffing and everyone can see it.
Get over yourself faggot.

>>509242073 (OP)
Can someone tell me how many posts this ID has?? Thanks!!!!!!

>>509254523
You didn't state any fact. You went on a midwit redditard rant about citizens united. No wonder you can't formulate a coherent thought - you can't even differentiate a fact from an emotional tantrum.

>>509242475
I wouldn't mind if CEOs still made around 30 times more than their workers. Nowadays it's more 250 times more. Do workers earn 8 times more than in 1980? Only 5 times, most of which is eaten by inflation.

>>509254848
Stop importing cheap labor and the value of labor will increase. CEO compensation is just a diversion from the war against the working class levied by corporations and their political golem.

>>509254820
Nice cope.
Concession accepted dipshit.

>>509254657
>you think I'm the one projecting
Because you are.
>Everything you've written throughout this thread is I'm-smarter-than-you fart sniffing and everyone can see it.
I’m not the one pretending “i wuz just like u until I got educated.” I can smell the subpar humanities department at Dumbfuck State on you.

>>509242073 (OP)
Skindie die die die

>>509255172
>more projecting blah blah blah
*yawn*

>>509242314
Not getting in debt because you broke a bone and insurance declined coverage.

>>509255132
At least you didn't go on another lab-made estrogen fueled rant and try to classify it as a fact

Worship of the elites is normal.

>>509255257
>no u he said with a fake smug indifference
You pee sitting down.

>>509255554
>so desperately wanted those quint digits but failed, just like in life

>>509255492
>reddit-tier gif response
sad. Go back

>>509255759
Nah, I'll stay right here, someone's got to keep your retarded ass in line.

>>509255757
>man who pees sitting down calls others failures
There you go projecting again.

>>509242073 (OP)
How is it in my interest to have my tax money stolen and given to niggers?

>>509242475
Half of those guys don't even live here.

>>509256105
Your desperation at saving this is hilarious.

>>509245386
Yet the left abandoned those political talking points.

>>509256229
>he typed while peeing, seated of course

>>509256258
"Leftist" Democrat politicians abandoned the policies, but Democrats don't speak for many on the left.

>>509255920
(you) are doing an outstanding job. I have learned that if we institute absurdly high tax rates that actually don't apply to anybody, that the system will fix itself. Because it sends a message or something.

Kind of like if we all pretend you are a woman, that you'll actually become one.

Trannynomics 101

>>509256332
>is obsessed with people peeing
You're one weird dude. You sure I'm the redditor here buddy?

LOL this bait thread i posted hours ago and forgot about until 5 minutes ago will reach bump limit.

it's honestly sad how easy it is to bait this board, all it takes is a loaded question and xitter screenshot i found on reddit. you people are dumb as rocks

>>509252058
I'm not talking about Jimmy Kimmel.

>>509256417
>seething about made up shit again desperately trying to cope with getting btfo'd on the facts
k

>>509256476
oh shit, you distracted me from all of the really important topics on this board! You sly fox!

>>509256450
>he typed as he stood up from the toilet, satisfied that his habit of peeing sitting down was normal
>it was the others who made fun of him who were weird

>>509256497
the only fact is that you'll never be a woman, and you and the rest of the discord trannies are so inconsequential that this is the most important discussion you'll have this week

>>509256631
the fact that you spent 3 hours and 32 replies in this shit tier thread is pretty sad, actualy
>ur a heckin' TROON!
always the last resort of retards on this board kek

>>509242073 (OP)
I don't care about billionaires just being rich because I'm not a jealous faggot. billionaires literally don't matter. the millionaires make you think billionaires are the issue. it's retarded.

>>509256709
>>509256748
Concessions accepted yet again.
Enjoy the rest of your days gentlemen.

>>509255030
CEO compensation increased with Reagan era deregulation and stock buybacks.

>>509256798
>me and my gross band of discord trannies totally aren't trannies
lol k

>>509257319
Why?

>>509256709
he had a point tho
why u so obsessed about how another man peepee
can't take u serious yo

>>509242073 (OP)
niggers are stupid

this isnt news

>>509257410
Profits increased for shareholders, buying back stocks increase stock prices.

>>509242728
You could maybe just stop being a faggot? Have you considered that?