Thread 509253336

THE WALL HAS BEEN BREACHED

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

> My favorite streamers who don't even play games and just rage bait and i have a parasocial relationship with told me to vote so i did

Fascinating...

>>509253336 (OP)
I want games to die. I want a complete and utter destruction of the gaming industry.

>>509253336 (OP)
Almost 70k votes is insane though

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STOP THE COUNT!

>Finland has the most signatures per capita
I.. I kneel finnbros..

[Anchor Post]

You can't own a service

>>509253338
>i advocate against my own self interest because even if i have nothing in this world i'll feel happy knowing you have nothing too
villains whose motives are hard to find fault in or arguably more justified than the hero?

>>509253336 (OP)
the consumer rights will continue until ethical business practices improves

At this point every place that is not the US should get nuked out of existence

>>509253341
SO LONG JUDAS

>>509253341
so long judas

REMINDER

Make yourself a twitter account and spam #stopkillinggames on it tomorrow

>>509253342
the benefits of being a nation of shutins

>>509253336 (OP)
I signed, I would sign again if I could
other eurobros should sign too

>>509253342
>1 out of every 190 finns signed
based

>>509253338
I want the west out of vidya. Let Asia cook.

>>509253336 (OP)
first of all Mald is a fucking nigger, but do you genuinely believe the EU parliament will fucking care for your toys when the whole world is on the brink of world war 3?

>>509253345
Based

>>509253341
SO FUCKING LONG, GAY JUDAS

>>509253344
Gaming becoming mainstream was when it went to shit. We need to go back.

>>509253336 (OP)
EuroCHADS...

>>509253351
Nice job, king. Tell your friends and family to sign too.

>>509253359
I did, and my mum called me a retard for giving my ID number.

>>509253341
SO LONG JUDAS

>>509253360
lol this is an official EU website
they already know your ID

>>509253336 (OP)
i signed , not because i care

i just hate pirate shillware

>>509253362
I know, but my mum didn't believe me.

>>509253341
SO LONG JUDAS

>>509253360
Oh no, you gave your ID number... to the EU... who already has it. Oh no!!!!!

This is like filling a tax form or registering your new address to the town hall and being shocked that you have to give them your ID number.

>>509253337
>My favorite streamer told me that stop killing games is bad so I'm going to go and be a nigger in every thread
Fascinating

>>509253341
the whole ass

still there

not a single lick

>>509253354
What's World War III now, buddy? When's that little Happening, happening?

>>509253354
I understand that in your simple brain calling videogames "toys" makes the entire premise sound dumb, but people with a functional brain can recognise that this is a consumer rights issue in general, which just so happens to currently be manifesting in the realm of videogames in a disproportionate fashion.

And yes, they do still care about consumer rights even if there are bad things happening in the world. What kind of logic is this?

Also, it doesn't matter whether they care or not. Once it passes, they are legally forced to enter the process, and the process will take months or even years whether they personally think there are more important issues or not.

If we weren't able to discuss anything in politics other than the most important pressing issue then every parliament ever would be talking about how there are people who don't have access to drinking water and who starve to death, and nothing else would ever get discussed.

>>509253341
SO LONG GAY JUDAS!

>>509253341
so long Judas.

>>509253341
SO
LONG
JUDAS

>>509253341
SO LONG JUDAS

What do people mean when they talk about fake/incorrect signatures being removed either? Doesn't the EU website verify that stuff on spot anyway?

>>509253341
SO LONG JUDAS

>>509253336 (OP)
>64k in a day
What the fuck?

KILL YOURSELF JANNY

>>509253378
streisand effect is big with this one

>>509253378
Check again, it's going to hit 70k by the time the clock rolls over

70,000 signatures in a single day

>>509253378
>sticky on reddit gaming
>jacksepticeye post
>pewdiepie post

How is this not related to video games? Stupid fucking faggot mods.

SO ANNIE ARE YOU OKAY

THEY DID IT AGAIN WHAT THE FUCK

SHILLS ARE DESPERATE AND FLAILING

>>509253336 (OP)
It's going to amount to nothing, you retards.

>>509253336 (OP)
imagine putting this much effort into faggotry gaming

>>509253336 (OP)
qrd?

>>509253342
SPURDO SPARDE :DD

>>509253336 (OP)
when we hit 880k sigs , you´re gonna see some serious shit

FUCK /v/ JANNIES

>>509253614
SKG is a campaign to stop planned obsolescence in video games, learn more here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMe9MxxZiI

>>509253557
Yeah we know, we are a little tired of winning at this point but it's okay amerimutt we will push to the finish line just for you.

>>509253336 (OP)
retarded redditors actually think communism regulations will fix games when it's the communist DEI policies ruining them in the first place

>>509253853
but why? every new game is just goyslop they are better off dead
the quicker faggot devs kill there game off the better

>>509253913
They just won’t sell games in Europe. Plenty of customers without them

>>509253614
this is a petition to end violence in video games - specifically, it is asking the industry to stop having the characters kill each other and instead only daze each other. and less blood.
seems gay to me, but these fags love it

where is the petition to remove niggers from video games?

kill ferrets

>>509254028
send your request to the adl, they'll put you on the list

>>509254170
thanks

>>509253975
>but why?
We're trying to somewhat improve things

Video games are for kids. LOL FAGGOT

>>509253336 (OP)
Today was a great fucking day

>>509253338
Yes. Back to free time devs, and nerds that just wanna create

>>509253975
>there

>>509253336 (OP)
>YAAAAAAAAS ALL MY FAVORITE LIBERAL COMMIE ECELEBS SUPPORT THE MOVEMENT YAAAASSSSS

>>509255128
neat
now do trans rights

>>509254734
>being this uninformed
does it hurt being deliberately stupid?

>>509253341
So long gay bowser

>>509253336 (OP)
Wouldn't have signed if it wasn't for this thread, thanks for reminding me

All you shills crying about the campaign is completely irrelevant. We already won. There is no way we don't get the 1 million signatures now. And this isn't your typical signatures.

Have fun being powerless to stop consumer rights getting better. Get fucked.

>>509255472
isn't your typical petition* lol.

>>509255314
Video games have nothing to do with real life retard. Gamergay did nothing either. Your being such faggots it hurts

>>509253336 (OP)
The american corporate shills don't enjoy being gekoloniseerd apparently.
We will no longer play by your rules. You now play by ours.

>>509255606
Shouldn't you be moderating """Thors""" chat right now?

>>509253360
You should have told her its for increasing health benefits for old people and she would have said something else.

>>509253376
Lets say its true.

It's impossible they will be able to fill even more than 50k or 100k fake signatures. At this rate and number, they going to reach 1.3 or 1.5 million before the end of the month

>>509253336 (OP)
so what happens when it gets to 100%

nothing?

>>509255845
I don't know what the fuck your even talking about retard. I haven't played video games since I was 14 when Fable 2 came out.

Grow the fuck up.

>earlier the jannies threw a skg thread to /b/
>now they throw it to /pol/
>thread is clearly about vidya
What the fuck are these retards doing?

>>509255919
No. The EU parliament will be legally obligated to discuss it and outline a plan of action. This isn't a normal petition, it's a legal process.

You can see the impact of other successful EU citizen initiatives here: https://citizens-initiative-forum.europa.eu/practical-guidance/success-stories_en

>>509255472
you have 30 days to get 250K signatures. you lost 6 months ago.

>>509253337
>>509253368
get your jeetbrains back to >>>/v/

>>509256021
>we have discussed it
>it's not tenable
>next

>>509256114
It has gained like 300k signatures in 2 weeks

>>509253336 (OP)
Doesn't this mean they just have to talk about it but they can easily say"yea we won't do shit"?

>>509256188
how many more pewdiepies and jacksepticeyes do you have that are going to make that happen?

>>509256021
That reminds me, there is another initiative. which tries to ban meat from all shelves. (no joke)
under the guise of animal cruelty and sad faces, they want to end farming completely and its close to a million.

I see it as a problem, for a couple of reasons, one of them is personal. I have irritable bowel syndrome, and 'meat' actually helps prevent pain and get a normal stool. It also contains lots of b12, iron and other vitamins. Some people are completely dependent on meat and follow a so called 'carnivoric diet'.

Plenty of people want to eat meat; so- I honestly hope that one fails. I don't know where they got all their votes from, but probably already existing animal rights activists. I also think they automatically signed the petition there, rather than manual, by using data these groups had of their members.

I literally never heard of this petition here despite knowing animal rights activists, yet somehow they have 500% threshold on votes worth from my country.. sigh-
I think it goes too far basically.

I think there are ways to farm, without being cruel and keep suffering to a minimum, both for plant and animals. Sometimes its nessecary to farm animals for people.
A lot of european food cuisine culture also depends on animals; eggs, milk, etc. It would be devastating to tons of businesses as well as history and ... simply to the tourist industry as well. I suspect that one would lead to huge economic problems.

In any case, I hope it doesn't go anywhere. Not all ECIs are a good idea.

What do you idiots think happens when it reaches 100%? Maybe they'll consult a committee of industry experts who will explain why this whole thing is impossible, but probably they'll reject the idea long before that.

Peak dunning krugers. You have absolutely no idea about how gamedev works.

>>509253336 (OP)
just signed it

>>509256900
Best from what I can tell, it's going to be a hearing where experts from both sides can argue their points and the commission then goes into discussion over making new legislation or not.
I just hope that there are actual industry experts that get involved with this that can make the simple argument of "It was possible before" and "people have reversed engineered servers from scratch without middleware software" to counter the major points that publishers will bring forward.

>>509256900
>You have absolutely no idea about how gamedev works.
Are you looking at a mirror? Making games not require online services is very easy for most games

>>509257150
there are no experts on the stop killing games side

>>509256900
>What do you idiots think happens when it reaches 100%? Maybe they'll consult a committee of industry experts who will explain why this whole thing is impossible, but probably they'll reject the idea long before that.

World of Warcraft: Classic (the entirely of its code comes from Nostalrious)
FiveM
RAGE:MP
Star Wars Galaxies
Battlestar Galactica Online
Project Reality (Battlefield 2)
Venice Unleashed (Battlefield 3)
Kyber (Battlefront 2)

Even if they bring industry experts, they gonna bring from the opposite side which will means there are plenty precedents of private hosting of dead games (Like GunZ)

Even so if they cant release documentation, binaries, source code (Which EA did and they are 1000% the most scumbaggy company on Earth)
Private servers do exist but they can copyright struck them any time, any moment, if legal protections come from it, Companies will be forced to lose rights unless they relaunch the servers in a new version, which means new copyright

>>509257309
There are people who have worked on big games (I can find you a video of someone who worked on WoW/Warcraft III and another person who worked on Helldivers 2), but then there are also people who have worked with server architecture in non-gaming spaces, then on top of that smaller developers like Running with Scissors and the people who made Totally Accurate Battlegrounds.

>>509253338
this, the whole industry deserves a swift death as do gamer cattle

They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

>>509257309
this, on side you'll have a senior gamedev with 35 years of experience in the industry vs Joe Chudnik, a 33 year old unemployed smelly gamer who lives with his mom

>>509257237
>Are you looking at a mirror? Making games not require online services is very easy for most games
Online games like MMO (lets say Star Citizen) use local hosting for launching servers, developers straight up showed and said that they slap the new stuff into their local server, hit an .bat and launch the server and then start their own client.

So it's not impossible to make the client of each player run its own server, its not different than Counter Strike 1.6

>>509257424
Another good example. Helldivers 2 runs the entirely of the game in client side, it just forces you to stay always online for the overall campaing progression and store, but the enemies are all client side. If you plug out your internet, it works perfectly fine.
Same with hitman 3 (got private servers)

>>509257150
>"people have reversed engineered servers from scratch without middleware software"
Command and Conquer Renegade and others have released the entirely of their source files with the special mention that "Some dependencies are missed due middleware software that we cant distribute, you can recreate your own tools)

>>509253338
based

>>509256900
the EU has been pro consumer many times

>>509256114
cope

>>509257754
>the EU has been pro consumer many times
Trust me bro this ain't happening
t. knower

god i can't wait for this to fail so i can laugh at you stupid cucks for the rest of your lives.

>>509253341
SO LONG J*DAS

reporting

>>509256900
>You have absolutely no idea about how gamedev works.
Does it work like:
>pump out piece of shit game with always online DRM
>it does not do that well but some people do pay for it
>scrap the servers after two months because unprofitable
>game is now forever gone, and people who paid for it are left without both their money and game
>rinse and repeat

>1M goal
Don't you need X EU states to reach a specific threshold of signatures relative to population before it passes? For example if all signatures came from Germany France and Finland the petition fails because cunts like Belgium and Estonia didn't have 0.1% of the population sign it?

>>509258694
There are already 16 countries that met their thresholds, with finland hitting 300% of their threshold.

>>509258446
>walk into fast food joint to buy my tri-daily batch of McGoyslop™ microwave tendies
>"sorry sir we discontinued that order"
>"why?"
>"because nobody except you was buying them"
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"

>>509253340
>>509253341
>>509253365
>>509253527
is that the guy who used to work at blizzard?!

>>509253340
Kek i love seeing this pretentious faggot get destroyed across Youtube.

>>509258805
Not the same. The issue here is that Mcdonalds will put you in jail if you recreated their discontinued recipe.

>>509258805
More like:
>order tendies from the menu
>mcfuckers does not deliver
>ask the money back
>mcfuckers tell you to fuck off

>>509258909
where did you used to work?

>>509253336 (OP)
bump

>>509258805
>food analogy
Also using a food analogy for a fucking videogame lmao

>>509253336 (OP)
>>509253336 (OP)
>>509253336 (OP)
>> RANDOM POLL
>> OMG IT'S HABBENING

SHUT THE FUCK UP SUBHUMAN DUMB MUTT XD

>>509258805
It's more accurate to compare it to owning a car, except the car runs by connecting to a server for some fucking reason, and then they discontinue the servers and your car shuts down.

Can I get a quick run down? Are faggots expecting game devs to pay for servers indefinitely on 10 year old games? Or are they demanding corpos give everyone their games for free after 10 years?

Am I correct in understanding that this is a Chud/Woke alliance?

>>509253336 (OP)
You can't save her.

>>509258955
>>509259413
you didn't buy a game retard, you bought a license to run software on your device. read the terms before dropping $100 on toys next time.

Tell me one good reason for why I would want for slop not to die

>>509259974
Let me guess. Burger?

>>509259888
What is being asked that after game devs stop supporting always online games, they either remove always online DRM, or modify games in a way that allows running private servers for it.
The devs can even keep selling the cunt, as long as it still works in some reliable manner.

>>509259888
No, retard. All they want is the option to host locally so the game can continue even when all official support ends. Like games used to be before you were born.

>>509259888
It's asking devs to have to patch their games to not require a connection to their servers to work after they turn off their servers. It's left fairly open on how they can implement that from a small patch to remove a online check to straight up giving the server files so people can host their own server to play on

>>509255472
kek you naive faggot. Do you have billions of disposable income to convince all of the boomers in the EU who have never touched a video game that its a good/bad idea?

>>509259919
wokeists don't play vidya. vidya is chud-coded.

>>509253336 (OP)
does anything ever come of these things, though? don't the politicians just give a little bit of lip service and then immediately drop the cuse afterwards?

Can someone explain what’s going on? I thought people liked this guy? Also I rarely play video games.

>>509260186
even jrpgs are woke now

>>509253354
*taps sign*

>>509260341
Is that real translation, or something that "localizers" put in?

>>509260080
Hmm so the end result will be no more dedicated servers? Cool, it'll be just like 2002 again when one player has a huge advantage over everyone else.

>>509260430
That particular line is a bit free with its localisation, but the white supremacists are in the game in the original japanese, see picrel

>>509260454
>so the end result will be no more dedicated servers?
I guess, though it is either that or fully unplayable game.

>>509260293
basically a small but loud gaggle of stupid no lifer incels that never made anything are big mad because video game companies choose to make money instead of burning it.

>>509257791
Which coin is this?

>>509260186
Thats a sad cope, a cursory glance through the thread would suggest its mostly leftists supporting the petition, I don't trust it. I bet there's fine print about niggers being included in every game

>>509253990
lol no they won't. if so, they would have stopped a long time ago. in fact, gaben would have pulled steam out if europe the second they forced him to do refunds. you cunt americans have us eurofags to thank for that one, in case you've forgotten..

>>509260538
Companies choose to burn the money to spite the gamers in this case.

>>509260454
>Hmm so the end result will be no more dedicated servers?
No, it means even more dedicated servers. Just instead of them being exclusively hosted by the developer/publisher, now anyone can host them privately.

Ubisoft is sinking their stock and company on purpose because shedding the dead weight of their libtard employees and their contracts in lieu of AI replacement is a good move on both economics and spiritual matters. They will then be left with many many undervalued IPs and the tools to remake Assassin's creed and whatever else without the libtard agenda and they will get rid of UBIplay or whatever shackles they put on to hamper their sales on PC. It is a bold move, but getting rid of their cancerous employees is the only way to ensure a profitable future. The remake of Assassin's Creed 1 will let you know this post was 100 percent accurate.

>>509253336 (OP)
I'll do my part and use vpn to sign it

>>509259974
While this is true it doesn't have to be true.

>>509260538
From what I can tell by googling the petition, people want game developers to stop having an end of life when support ends (because they’ve invested so much time). And I assume YouTuber hacker guy is against it?

>>509260628
.... so not a dedicated server

>>509258909
Yes. He is reddit incarnate. A shame because he’s actually an extremely skilled hacker.

He kind of reminds me of Jordan Peterson. If you ever watch his old lectures they are amazing. The minute he steps out of his field of expertise he’s just a total fucking retard

>>509256719
no biggie, we'll juke make a petition to make meat legal again. and then around and around it will go...

Also why did the faggot janny send you guys to pol?

>>509259974
How stupid are you? That’s exactly what they’re trying to change. Whether that’s the current state of affairs is not only moot, it’s stipulated. Dumbfuck

So far it is going by really fast btw. I calculated very simplistically that it needs one vote every 10 seconds (actually it needs less), and every time I refresh it's up by 2-10 votes (and of course I refresh much faster than once every 10 seconds)
Considering it's past midnight in Europe this is encouraging.

>>509260734
It's more political than vidya despite it being about vidya

>>509260684
>.... so not a dedicated server
You have no idea what a dedicated server is. Back in the day pretty much all FPS games had dedicated servers that were privately hosted. A dedicated server just means that it's a machine that's set up only to act as a server. What you were talking about is peer2peer.

>>509253336 (OP)
Thank you for the reminder, just voted.

>>509260702
>A shame because he’s actually an extremely skilled hacker.
I can't imagine thinking that.

>>509253990
Based. Total gaymer death.
>>509254028
I'd sign that petition. Gayming is for fags, but niggers don't belong in digital spaces.

>>509253343
>also healthcare should be free

>>509260865
Well I’m not an expert to be fair but I find the videos he’s done on the topic fascinating

>>509260652
>remake of Assassin's Creed 1
eh, we'll see. black flag first.

>>509260787
True it's a mix. That roach faggot trying to kill this. I'll go spam this on social media. Maybe I can get a few more signatures

>>509259888
damn Im getting more use from this pic than from all of my reaction pics

>>509253338
That's actually what's going to happen once this becomes law and torpedoes live service slop that sustains big Western studios
VOTE NOW FOR TGD

SO LONG JUDAS

Can someone tl;dr me on Pirate and why his face keeps popping up?

>>509261047
>be reddit incarnate streamer
>use xp at blizzard as basis for >90% of shorts
>mr le industry insider
>geberally pro gamer and consumer
>suddenly do a bizarre 180 and oppose a consumer friendly petition because muh software license

>>509260673
>>509260750
then just make your own video game company where you produce and sell every game forever instead of trying to dictate business models to people who are smarter than you, dipshit. nothing they're doing here is illegal, you're just assmad because you spent 10 years and your mother's retirenment fund on a dead mmo.

>>509255999
Jeets are paid by big homo to silence the discussion.

>>509261146
Again, you are so stupid you can’t even follow your own conversation. This petition is to change the law. Whether what they’re doing is currently illegal is IRRELEVANT

THE POINT YOU KEEP HARPING ON IS NOT RELEVANT

Are you able to read it this time, dipshit? You have zero basis to determine who is smarter than whom in any capacity and are functioning at a middle school level.

>>509261146
>meme flag
>abhorrent opinion

Le Haim schlomo

>>509261146
You are making your side look worse just fyi

>>509257563
You beautiful truthful autistic bastard
Have a well deserved (you)

retards think retard shit is wonderful.
notice they don't say a fucking word about movies, tvshows, books, or anything else.
its just 'violent games are bad so we're going to violate everyones 1stl amendment rights because our woke retard shit wasn't working.

>>509253341
so long judas

>>509260702
i am something of a l3376 hacker myself
here's you're ip 192.168.1.1
OWNED

>>509260918
>>509260865
>he’s actually an extremely skilled hacker.
Lol. Skilled hackers don't make Twitch videos for children, they get recruited by the government.

>>509261263
i'm so sad that i'll never see the look on your face when you realize that "make these companies do what i want because i'm angry!!!!" is an incoherent legal proposition.

>>509261508
1992 called lol

The US government only employs every gay negress that could actually earn a computer science degree

>>509261294
>>509261317
>no argument
i accept your concession

>corporate shill pajeet niggers want more games as a service
>they think they will ever be able to convince video game hobbyists that it's actually okay that their game they spent money on will eventually be shut down and never be playable ever again

>>509257312
I think it would be good if publishers wouldn't be able to copyright strike servers of dead games for IP they own.

>>509255999
/v/ Trannies think that a Petition must be political and can't be associated with video games.

>>509261533
First of all, laws against companies change because people are angry all the time. You are a stupid child absolutely clueless about the world. Second, if the law changes due to the petition, they absolutely will be complying.

0/2

Gamewahoos are as dumb as sportsballs.

Thank you Kiwifarms.

>>509261638
nobody is trying to convince you of anything. you don't make anything. you don't influence anything. you don't do anything. when did you last leave your house?

>>509261624
I didn’t make an argument. I’m explaining to you that chimping out in defense of corporations is a bizarre, pathetic strategy and makes your side look worse. Prattle all the meme replies you want, literally everyone can tell how mad you are

who knew that all you needed was a change.org petition to stop the jews

>>509261624
My argument is you deserve to be back in the oven now shoo shoo rabbi while I pirate 40 years worth of vidya

>>509257563
>Over, and over, and over
Based af
I did 2 runs every day for 847 days in PWI to get a completely white dress that was supposedly impossible to get, so of course i tried
When i finally got the drop it was locked another class ...
I still laugh at it

>>509261806
Literally none of that is an argument LOL, seething cretin hypocrite

iAyC durrr

>>509253341
So long Judas

>>509261590
Do you think the entirety of DARPA is all DEI hires? There's still skilled professionals doing top work. Those skilled professionals are not on Twitch soliciting children to donate emotes with their parents' credit card. That's only something a poser Reddit bugman does.

>>509261719
you have no basis for a complaint. you weren't wronged in any way shape or form, you're just shitting and pissing your pants because companies aren't doing business the way you want them to. even if this makes its way to some official's desk (which it won't) it'll be promptly dismissed and laughed at.

>>509261127
>pro gamer and pro consumer streamer has the position of "Director of Strategy" within the marketing department at "Offbrand games" owned by local rat "Ludwig"
>becomes anti consumer friendly because his way of living is threatened but doesn't say anything
> weeks later sequel of live service game releases, its more pay to win and scummy than the previous release, with Always Online DRM

I wonder why

>>509261644
>I think it would be good if publishers wouldn't be able to copyright strike servers of dead games for IP they own.

The most logical outcome is that if they refuse to release any private server binaries, source code, etc... They will just outright lose copyright strike capabilities of dead games and the versions they run on, if they want to recover the copyright, they gotta launch a new version of the game...

For example.

EA shuts down Battlefront 1 and 2 servers.
Loses copyright against private servers
EA relaunches Battlefront 1/2 + adds new content.
EA regains copyright against private servers if they copy what they added AFTER the release date, if private servers copied the content EA added, they get a copyright strike, but the old version of the game counts as legacy... Similary how Dark Souls and Dark Souls Remastered are separate products.

>>509261734
Holy kek
>>509262135
>e-even if-f-f-f
HAHAHA

You are wrong, you’ve been wrong, you’re dumb and I am laughing at you along with the thread

>>509262135
>you weren't wronged in any way shape or form
You took my money, then you broke the thing I bought from you. That's theft.

I can tell you guys are terrified by how hard you're shilling against this. You're going to lose your job lol

>>509262234
let me guess, two more weeks?

>>509262362
You're a day behind
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/

>>509253336 (OP)
A GAME JUST FLEW 75% OVER MY HOUSE

>>509262351
see >>509259974
learn to read before you use your mother's credit card.

>>509262362
Is that from yesterday LMAO

We're going to win and I can feel your panic through the screen.

>>509262362
*kvetching intensifies*

>>509253340
top kek

>>509262526
I've personally made sure that like 10 people from Bosnia who have EU citizenship sign it, despite the fact that the last game they played was GT4. The great kikening of video games shall be halted.

>>509253336 (OP)
can I get a qrd on wtf this is? I don't play vidya

>>509262649
the qrd is that video games, despite being purchased, stop being available to the buyer once the service is discontinued, meaning the product the user pays for becomes unavailable despite having paid for it and this practice is therefor in opposition to consumer protection, not to mention how it would preserve video games from going away

>>509262648
THE GREAT CRUSADE

>>509262739
ah, I get it. very obvious now. thank you.

>>509262405
damn that's pretty good.
we need to pump these number up

>>509262649
How it used to be:
>buy video game
>developer ends support/goes bankrupt
>don't care because you can still enjoy the game to this day

How it is now:
>buy video game
>developer ends support/goes bankrupt
>the game is gone forever and you can never use the thing you bought again

Based Ross: This is wrong and anti-consumer. We're going to change it.

Goldberg/stein/witz/etc: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP THE COUNT

>>509262525
Then whats the issue with making such "licencing" illegal?

>>509263142
Licensing allows them a legal loop that basically says that you dont own the thing you "PURCHASED" and has plenty buttons that says "BUY". It will define game purchases as "PURCHASES" rather than "LICENSING".

Because game companies been using the licensing term to rugpull games and cease them to be functional, like Splinter Cell Conviction and The Crew.

It wont make licensing illegal but It will prevent companies for making games into "Temporal licenses" when you paid 80 dollars for using it forever... It's practically dancing around the truth to say that you own what you paid for.

It's like if Elon Musk or any car manufacturer could steal your "Tesla" because they reached end of service, yet you cant get second hand parts and the software of your car (that makes the engine run and turn on) goes off, basically you own a brick.

>>509263142
the issue is that you have no case. it's like saying you want to make car rentals illegal because you don't like the fact that the dealership can take the car after your contract runs out. it's literally toddler tier thinking, which isn't surprising seeing as it's coming from career gamers.

Seething tranny moderator lmao

>>509263487
But I have case if it is made illegal.

>>509263487
>the issue is that you have no case
Then why are you guys so terrified? Why run this desperate 24/7 shill campaign against something you claim will fail?

>>509253336 (OP)
I'll wait for the last day to sign it.

>>509263742
Moshi gets paid per post. He's just doing his job

>>509253338
NIGGA THATS NUTS

>>509263709
It wont make licensing illegal, but it will redefine games as a product rather than a license.

A car rental gives you a car for a temporal time. Not lifetime.

Games often go by "LIFETIME TEMPORAL LIMITED ACCESS LICENSE"

What the fuck is that, its basically a legal lingo to say you dont own your LIFETIME thing

>>509263487
I've seen you are a retarded memeflag. Not to be argued with because you are likely a shill. However, for any lurkers around. If a company no longer offers support for a product you buy, you are as a customer entitled to fix your product however you see fit, because you purchased it. If you merely purchased a licence to use said product temporarily, as the car rental example puts, the customer should be told in advance the duration of the rental contract. So they can make an informed decision instead of it being up to the whim of the company.
Paradox, as money-grubbing as they are, have the right idea to their HOI4 DLC rental scheme, pay, use a month, lose.

>>509263709
you can't make anything you dislike illegal, spurdo. you have to make a case why you're being wronged.

>>509264008
I know, but I'm just hassling that memeflag faggot.

>>509264031
Heh

>>509264176
Ah okay

>>509264031
>the customer should be told in advance the duration of the rental contract.
i appreciate you sharing with us what your perfect world looks like but unfortunately for you there's no law that dictates this.

>>509253341
So long Judas

>>509264722
if there wasn't the politicians should be making one in response to this petition.

>Create a subsidiary for every game
>Subsidiary licenses IP
>When game shuts down, they go "independent" and than bankrupt
>No one told hold accountable
>Repeat

It's a nice idea in concept, but they're just going to start using Hollywood structuring.

Absolute best case outcome is there's some third party that escrows servers binaries and will run them for payment. Because the devs aren't going to open source shit.

>>509265077
why?

>>509264176
....you have memeflags unfiltered?

>>509264722
There is for most other forms of transaction, including your car rental example as well as any form of rental or licensing. The limit to it is explicitly written beforehand, and in the cases that there isn't there is a caveat for an advance warning. Such as a homeowner evicting tenants in a legal way for any reason. The game industry getting updated with everything else is just a logical progression. Something you are unable to comprehend.

>>509260702
He's the cybersecurity equivalent of Bill Nye or Black Science Man. He's good at explaining concepts in a normie-friendly way. Don't mistake it for anything more than that.

>>509265236
because 800 thousand of us want it.

>>509264008
You lurk in /arepa/?

>>509253349
He needs to stop saving games and start finishing Freeman's Mind 2

>>509264722
Dats why we gon do da bill dipshit

>>509264722
>there's no law that dictates this.
Damn. So are you naturally stupid, or are you just earning that paycheck?