>>509269864There is no historical basis for that, it's just another thing that you made up, and you didn't answer my question. If all it takes is being born here, why include that qualification as well? We already know everybody has to obey the law, that's a given. What would be the purpose of laws otherwise? It wasn't written to remind everyone that laws have to be followed, it was written to limit the sort of person who can be born a citizen, not to expand it to everyone who was born here, but to limit tt to people who were born here AND are supposed to be here, i.e. subject to the jurisdiction of this country, not the foreign country from which they hail.