Why can't NATO win in ukraine?

>>509280597 (OP)
lmfao

Why can’t Russia win in Ukraine?

>>509280597 (OP)
zlava putin, rabbie, to the last slav

>>509280597 (OP)
NATO isn't fighting in Ukraine. It's just what Russians tell themselves to cope with their unbelievable incompetence.

>>509280903
is this funny?

UwU

>>509281389
Why is she boiling herself?

>>509280597 (OP)
>Why can't NATO win in ukraine?

Because they are using half-measures and imposing overly cautious weapons restrictions to prolong the war (and thus funnel more money to the MIC).

>>509281248
there's nothing funny about killing white men for jews by both sides

>>509280597 (OP)
NATO hasn't shown up yet.

>>509280597 (OP)
NATO stationed soldiers in the ukraine?

>>509280597 (OP)
Because NATO isn't in Ukraine. A better question would be, Why can't Russia win in Ukraine? Why does Russia control less territory now than 3 years ago?

>>509280597 (OP)
Kyiv in 3 days btw

>>509281838
>le both sides


>errrrmmmm guys people keep calling us out if we call jewtin a kike
>let’s legitimise the narrative in a more caveat way
Slava Rossii. Z. Hang the rabbi

Do ziggers actually believe Russia is fighting a hot war against NATO in Ukraine or do they realize it is a absurd propaganda talking point they spread cynically for free?

>>509282777
you have schizophrenia

>>509283098
It’s anything short of war yep
>fund niggers
>train niggers per your own standards
>supply niggers
>brainwash niggers
>arm niggers
>t-they’re not our army, pinky promise

>>509283221
Sure (((taras))) don’t overwork yourself

>>509280597 (OP)
i personally think they dont want the war to end.

>>509281148
>NATO countries weapons
>NATO advisors
>NATO training
>NATO troops pretending to be volunteers
Yeah, they aren't there at all...

>>509280597 (OP)
Too busy racketeering its members.

>>509280597 (OP)
ukraine isn't part of nato
take your meds

>>509283284
Reminder that Russia is literally hiring nigger mercs from Africa to fight in Ukraine.

>>509283372
There you go again with the cope.

>>509281148
You are the one coping. It's understandable, you just lost to Yemen and most recently, to Iran.

>>509283519
And again.

>>509282019
hay soldados de todos los países del mundo trabajando como "contratistas"(eufemismo para no decir "mercenarios") a favor de Ucrania

las guerras contemporáneas no se ganan tomando territorio sino haciendo que el enemigo se canse y se rinda

>>509281389
Dude, we have more than one tranny. We have 4. Don't you get tired of this one?

>>509281583
Himself. No joke.

>>509280597 (OP)
They fight for soulless globalism, they had no chance

>>509281838
We aren't doing it for the kikes but, yes, kikes instigated it.

>>509280597 (OP)
Nato's involvement in Ukraine is sharing a thimble of water to fight a forest fire. a handful of 40-60 year old pieces of armor as a goodwill gesture. Some old 90s anti-tank rockets. They are doing the bare minimum required to keep up appearances but give zero fucks about Ukraine.

>>509283356
404 is a testing ground for nuts.

>>509283619
Your country emptied its arsenal to supply Ukraine.

>>509280632
hm, very interesting map
can you set the start date to Feb 23th 2022 pls?

>>509283514
The only cope are the lies pretending NATO aren't involved.

>>509283461
Yeah yeah and ukraine is not loaded with thick accent niggers. Keep me posted

If ruZZia is winning so hard, why isn't Ukraine losing? Why aren't the lines collapsing?

1 million dead ziggers later, ruZZia now occupies LESS of Ukraine that it did in 2022.

>>509283885
And also the Russian cope that they're fighting NATO directly and that is why they haven't been able to beat Ukraine yet . It's not their fault, poor little Russia has been victimized once again.

>>509283711
We sent a few of our oldest leopard tanks (to date I think only 3 actually arrived in Ukraine, the other 4 were promised but they never got around to shipping them or something) , and placed an order for 8 more of the latest model from Germany as their replacement for use in Canada.

>>509280597 (OP)
>Russia has to beg to NK and Iran for soldiers
>Still losing in Ukraine
>Has to cope with they're fighting the entirety of NATO
You retarded niggers still can't get air superiority in your own fucking border.

>>509283989
Losing 50% of your population for 1 million isn’t a good exchange rate broseph

>>509284146
>russia loses 2k soldiers per day
>that’s why 10k norks can save it
What goes through your head when you post this

if russia is so strong and based now come Putin is a balding manlet with Botox?

>>509283989
>ruZZia now occupies LESS of Ukraine that it did in 2022.
And how much land does Ukraine occupy in comparison to before the war?

>>509284200
Yes you Russians are that fucking retarded. Hence why there's thousands of videos of you niggers killing yourselves in retarded ways in Ukraine.

>>509284181
Admitting that Russia is engaging in a genocide are you?

>>509284252
Agreed. This doesn’t answer the question though

>>509280632
I don't get it, things look the same

>>509284181
russia completely collapsed twice in the 20th century and we're about to witness the first time in the current one.
I can't wait to see you maggots eat tree bark and grass.

>>509284284
There are less civilian losses in three years than for one day of kikes fucking around in Gaza. You tell me why people leave Ukraine instead of fighting for it

>>509284336
Spooky. I’m getting demoralised I think. I’ll come up with a reply as soon as I’m done with my caviar buterbrod

>>509280597 (OP)
why didnt russia take over ukraine in 3 days when even the first help from any nato country came months later?

>>509284342
>why people leave Ukraine
War or not it's still Ukraine

>>509284400
Don’t tell em lol

>>509280632
Holy cope, my sides, kekekekekekarooo.
No panic in the Ukraine, right?

>>509280597 (OP)
The western military industrial complex is a wasteful and greedy monstrosity that is not driven by the desire to win a war. It's driven by profit and the desire to sell overengineered trinkets to homosexual politicians whose imagination is tainted by the socially engineered delusion that science fiction wunderwaffe can ensure your supremacy forever.

>>509280597 (OP)
NATO isn't in Ukraine. They're supporting them in the same manner you supported the NVA in Vietnam.

>>509284342
You displaced millions of Ukranian civilians by bringing war to their soil. Russians displace the natives and repopulate with Russians, like your kind did in Kaliningrad.

Honestly Russians and Jews have a lot in common. Both promote 3rd worlder immigration to western Europe and both cynically weaponize european history to push white guilt.

>>509280597 (OP)
Lack of manufacturing capacity thanks to jews and Boomers pushing the WEF into selling our factories to China.

>>509280597 (OP)
you've spent 3.5 years and billions of dollars to claim 20% of ukraine. not to mention your birth rate is extremely low, and people are fleeing your country. lmao

>>509283356
Here they argue that its severely damaging Russias economy to keep the war going like this.
Clearly we're going to try to stretch this out.

>>509284462
Only 96 years until Russia takes Lwow

>>509283284
...That's a proxy conflict you retard.

That's been like 90% of the fights in the Cold war. Don't pretend you don't know what they are.

>>509284548
"NATO" gave fuck all to Ukraine compared to what USSR and China sent to the NVA.

Estimated Jet Fighter Deliveries:
The Soviet Union provided approximately:

200–300 MiG jet fighters, primarily:

MiG-17 "Fresco" – subsonic fighter used in early stages

MiG-19 "Farmer" – limited use, supersonic

MiG-21 "Fishbed" – main frontline supersonic interceptor

>>509280597 (OP)
Because they didn't impose a no-fly zone and don't have troops on the ground

Because Russia has nukes and everyone is afraid thatthey will cause Nuclear War if they push Putin too hard.

>>509284573
Hilldawg was a Russian and she did Libya. Never forgetti. Acute as always in general

>Millions of dead and crippled ruskies while 0 dead HATO soldiers
Seems like Nato is winning.

>>509284768
>financial pressure
>military pressure
>cultural pressure
That’s what I’m talking about. Pretty nice you have disposable Ukrainians to spare

>>509284809
What actual Euro country would send troops to fight for Slavs?

>>509281148
>billions in NATO losses
kek, just two more weeks to total NAFO victory

>>509284936
Nigger a proxy conflict is nothing like a war with NATO.

>>509284936
Nice goalpost move bud.

>>509285117
You’re always welcome fella
And yeah
>all complicated tech is operated by foreign crews
Ukrainians are literally meat and they acknowledge it

Glad to know that according to /pol/ France and later the US didn't lose against viets but instead lost to the entire CHINA + USSR

Iran has Russian SAMs and they couldn't stop NATO planes.

NATO's air force would end Russia in days and this is not even counting their Navy.

>>509285214
Yes, it seems that according to ziggers, supplying weapons and intelligence to a proxy is the same as direct full scale war.

>>509285289
but muh billions of western mercenaries
hundreds of captured 4 star generals
collapse of ukraine in two more weeks zisters

>>509285214
China reduced and eventually stopped supporting Vietnam in the 70's. The Sino-Soviet split is the most well documented change in policy in Asia during the Cold War.

>>509285289
Pipe down Pierre you’ve already tried some damage control and failed

>>509285409
Yes, but they still received a lot of support from the USSR so they still had a major backer.

>>509285427
>damage control
Damage control is calling Ukraine's military NATO.

>>509284284
It's not a genocide when 90% are people fleeing the country because they don't want to serve and die. Maybe just surrender and spare the nation instead of destroying it? I mean, nobody cares if a meme like Ukraine exists next year or not so I guess it doesn't matter.

>>509285462
Yeah and the Soviets stopped helping in the 80's when China and Cambodia invaded. Too poor and didn't want to tread on China's toes.

>>509285492
Should have told that to the Palestinians.

>>509285477
It’s clearly less able and more corrupt. It depleted European stocks tho

>>509285214
Yeah that’s objectively true.
Ukraine basically has no way to equip and pay their troops and maintain government functions.
Pretending this is merely a fight versus Ukraine is insane. Only thing they provide is manpower.

>>509285492
You mutts are so easy to brainwash with blatant propaganda, holy shit.

>>509285580
>more corrupt
Wait so you can't even win against a corrupted shithole that doesn't even use the military aid pledged to it because of corruption?

>>509285613
So just like Vietnam or USSR in WW2.

>>509285580
European stocks are being depleted, which is why Russian armor is rarely seen anymore.
>erm actually not using tanks and APCs is smart, and there's no relation to the comical amount of destroyed Russian vehicles

>>509285613
Ukraine is still mainly using Soviet era equipment despite weapons donations from the west.

Why can't Russia take kyiv

>>509285651
>engage with entire western mic
>get to keep all the goodies while helpers slowly back out unsure how to cease supporting agonizing Ukraine
Winning against v&ed people takes some mercilessness

>US gave a bunch of bradleys at some point, they refuse to give any aid to Ukraine since Trump is in office
>"WOOOOOOW MUTLI CULTURAL PUSSIA JUST WON SOLO AGAINST THE ENTIRE NAFO"

>>509285669
That’s a nice post for ukrainian bike squads to shove their faces into

>>509285761
Which mic dumbass? The shit the US gave to Ukraine was built in the 80s at best. Still I recognize that it must be alien technology for your mongolian brain.

>>509285762
Don’t lose your marbles over the Ukraine bro

>>509285828
Thanks for proving my point muhammed

>>509285812
Hahahahaha no fucking way I foresaw your cope. Just some garage sale junk bro, just some leftovers that left Europe cucked and running out of basics

>>509285580
>It depleted European stocks
It hasn't. The US and NATO maintained stockpiles of obsolete weapons and munitions for supplying proxy conflicts. The artillery shells that Ukraine got were from a US munitions dump in Israel for example.

Actual active service materiel contributions are scant and mainly Soviet/Russian stuff the Eastern Euros were using, HIMARS, SAM systems and some F-16's.

Sometimes I wonder how the Russian posters here would have reacted if you told them in 2022 that the war would still be raging in July of 2025. I'll never forget how the time until Ukrainian defeat shifted from weeks, to months, to "before the end of the year" to "eventually"

>>509283372
So NATO basically defeated the Warsaw pact in Iraq?

>>509285923
NATO won against the Warsaw pact in the Six Days war!
Glorious NATO victory!

>>509285761
kek retreated from the captial now russia has to cope with only taking partial oblast regions and is running low on everything but drones and mercs. Surely if NATO stepped in russia would have to use nukes since there army cannot even contain the ukrainians to there own battlefields but are now dealing with attacks within russian soil. What a joke of a country i hope putin actually declares war so your ass gets conscripted and sent back to the front lines.

Pray tell if russia invaded the baltics and finland would it win in its current state or will it have to wait until it builds up its weapon stocks like the USSR again for another war?

>>509285876
Obsolete?
>himars+advanced missiles
>patriot+advanced interceptors
>modern tanks with state of the art equipment
>stormshadow/scalp, other state of the art missiles
>every AD system in production
>every state of the art SPG/artillery+ammo
>most modern IFV's in europe
What cheers me up is shills slowly switching their cope to “we never needed to win in the first place”
“We’ve lost nothing here”
“It was all outdated junk”
Yeaaaa bro, and guess what? Europe is getting NONE of its Ukrainian loans back

>>509285980
Nafo lost /k/opesquad, retreat to your discord. Tell me about abundant obsolete junk lmao

>>509285761
>the entire western mic
How many F-35s has NATO provided again?

>>509286020
It's OK, watching Russians get blow to pieces in drone video after drone video is payment enough

>>509285985
>low on everything but drones and mercs
Nafo current state except people don’t want to fight for it I think. People don’t give a shit about Ukraine and Reddit legionnaires have long been pulverized

>>509286073
These are reserved for the Jews. Sorry vasya

>>509286158
why are here, pidor? why won't you enlist for your manlet czar in his glorious war in ukraine?

>>509286082
>drone cope
>he mutters as f16 got plinked by a shahsneed the other day
Russia outproduces Ukraine in drones btw

>>509285492
"Ukraine" is not a nation. This is a thing that was invented by the commies to fuck with world borders, it is a purely artificial construct.

over a million dead Russian soldiers

0 NATO soldiers

lol

>>509286226
Learn to speak English when talking to your masters, ukrainian cyka. You’ll see the insides of the van if you won’t

>>509286068
Wow. You mean that countries that thought war would not come to Europe and have severely underinvested in their armies since the fall of USSR don't have the same military production than a country that is on war production and pretends it doing so to avoid being military threatened by the first countries?
Truly an intellectual.

>>509286187
You mean where they shat on puccian air defense in Iran? It was very rude of you to give such shitty AD to your allies

>>509285214
The US did lose to the Vietnamese supported by Soviet/Chinese weapons.
Now why can't NATO do the same in Ukraine suffering way worse economic losses than the USSR? Despite Russia having "the economy of Spain" and so on?

The answer is that they're losing the proxy war and even sending the entire French Army there wouldn't even be noticeable.

>>509286068
>abundant
where did i say that? the US gave something like 20 old abrams and now refuse to even sell weapons to Ukraine. That's the opposite of "abundant".

>>509286235
How many Su-34s did you lose in these last two weeks? And if I recall correctly a Su-35 was shot down less than a month ago. During that same week, a Su-25 got shot down by its own fucking wingman. Don't talk about jets puccian

>#winning
Arsehole.
Nato isn’t at war in Ukraine so maybe there’s a reason.
But if you stop lying and doing dictatorship cuck mental gymnastics for ten seconds Igor you’ll see that Russia has LOST …and that’s why you are seething and coping.
HaHa!

>>509286272
i repeat: why are you here, pidor?
don't you have a meatcube to fit into?

>>509286020
>himars+advanced missiles
In service since 2005.
>patriot+advanced interceptors
Patriot is old as fuck. Like developed in response to Vietnam levels of old.
>modern tanks with state of the art equipment
No, they're almost all old as fuck Abrams (same era as Patriot) and cold war era Leopards. And your shit and derivative tanks.
>stormshadow/scalp, other state of the art missiles
They aren't. They're again old shit the UK had sitting around for 2 decades.
>every AD system in production
Well yeah, it's a massive commercial success showing it off in Ukraine. And some of the few modern things they bother supplying.
>every state of the art SPG/artillery+ammo
AS-90's? And that Czech shit?

State of the art? No.
>most modern IFV's in europe
Yeah in small numbers.

>>509283372
By that metric we stomped the shit out of the Russians in the 1st gulf war. Why can't they stop losing? Lmao.

>>509286291
Because NATO is just an alliance of countries you shitskin fuck? Countries like Hungary and the US since Trump are part of NATO and suck the dick of Putin like no tomorrow. for instance.
For the other countries supporting Ukraine it's just face politics. We never committed to actual military aid/going to war economy. Just giving old stock junk.
If the US spent something like 2% of their DoD budget (that is one trillion currently) that war would have been over by now.

>Why are the Necrons not winning the war with russia in Ukraine?
>(by inference “Russia has defeated the Necrons” yay Russia!)
You’re a cuck and an arsehole chatting shit.

>>509286362
Or their bombers getting hit across multiple airfields.

>WHY HAS ALEXANDER THE GREAT NOT WON IN UKRAINE
>(yay russia)
Russia has lost to Ukraine.
Nato is not at war with anyone Igor the liar.

>>509286481
That was over a month ago, which means it basically never happened. Russians suffer from dementia.

>>509286457
>If the US spent something like 2% of their DoD budget (that is one trillion currently) that war would have been over by now.

>we could win but we just don't want to!
Years old cope.

>>509286609
>we could win but we just don't want to!
>we
Trump loves Russia and Israel more than anything else. Why would you assume he's on the side of Ukraine on this?

>>509286609
What you just described forms 100% of Russian arguments for why the war still isn't over.
>we're actually going slow on purpose, when Putin declares war then we'll REALLY show them

>>509284040
They are fighting NATO. Those HIMARS and Stormshadows aren't ukrainian. Neither are the abrams or challenger tanks. Or NATOs entire javelin stockpile. Or the various AA systems. Pretending NATO aren't arming, training, and directing the ukrainian military is just bullshit.

Russia has lost to UKRAINE and will collapse.
>>509281637
Wrong. Derp.
Nato is not at war. Igor the liar was tricking you. Because his country has lost the war it started with ukraine.

>>509286767
k got it. The soviets didn't defeat the nazis. It was the US in fact that did the heavy lifting on the east front.

>>509286291
Because Vietnam war was a colonial war where there was literally 0 sane reason to threaten with nuclear war while Russia has been frequently using this threat to influence western aid in Ukraine (even shot an ICBM in Ukraine). The west has been pretty observant of a lot of Russian red lines as leak have shown and the incredibly slow rate of escalation in weapons delivery.

>>509286747
The main argument is that there are millions of Ukrainians to burn through.
Just like there were millions of chinks/gooks in the Korea war.

Difference is that the number of Ukrainians is limited and deep down everyone in the West knows the war is based on lies so they don't want to join directly because there's zero non-manufactured support from the population, so the outcome is obvious

>>509286609
Russia collapsing would be a geopolitical nightmare. Nobody wants that. And it almost did despite all precautions.

>>509286386
I repeat: did you take the fridgeniks? Did you take the OG cube back oooorrrr? Ukrainian mudswine

>>509283737
>trading land for more soldiers than its prewar population is a win
the white man's mind can't comprehend this

>>509280597 (OP)
the war is meant to kill as many of you on both sides
and you're dull enough to fight this war

>>509286767
Getting weapons from other countries is what every country does in every war. Including Russia in this war it’s started and list against ukraine:
You are talkibg shite because lying is what you dictatorship cucks do, you are bred for slavery & fed on lies.
>if i chat enough spaghetti then…
you can lie until the hole in your arse heals up. You’re a load of shit and that’s why you always lose. Igor the liar, dirty wang & Poo. You’re worse than dogshit nobody wants dictator slaves around them lying like something from an Orwell novel.
Go grow yourself an adult sized penis, cuck.

>>509286767
They are fighting the USSR. Those MiG-21s and K-13s aren't NVA. Neither are the T-54 or Type 59 tanks. Or the Soviet Union's entire Strela-2 stockpile. Or the various AA systems. Pretending the Soviet Union isn't arming, training, and directing the NVA is just bullshit.

>>509286826
>Because Vietnam war was a colonial war
True.
The Ukraine War is a defensive war for Russia where NATO are using Ukrainians and other revanchist East Europeans against Russia because they can't get their own populations to fight for them.

>>509286818
Yeah, I'm not listening to anything some smelly surrender monkey has to say about war.

>>509287006
(the type 59 is Chinese but I forgot to include China)

>>509286068
the current rate in the US is 530k 155mm shells and in the EU it is 580k 155mm shells so I don't know how old this shit is but it is retardedly wrong

>>509286903
>we're being nice to Russia, it's five Dee chess!
>we could defeat them in two weeks if we wanted, just like our show of force against Yemen!
The most retarded Redditor copes I've heard in a while.

>>509286281
>what’s a thinktank?
Willy Burns along with Joe Biden knew shit all along since 1999
>>509286284
>russia lost because it was shelling Kiev military plants meanwhile
And Russian nuclear engineers helped Iran but you somehow omit to mention this
>>509286362
How come Ukraine has become more proficient in killing f16s than Russia? Something’s fishy here innit
>>509286413
Now go ahead and replenish the stocks. Come on negro, it’s just a garage junk sale as shown per charts lmao
Nafo got fucking pounded and now they can’t think of a way to weasel themselves out

>>509287086
Should I remind you how Czechs promised to manufacture one million shells in three to four months and shipped only 40% of them in a year

>>509287086
Both koreans militaries have enabled this war to last longer. Without there production this war would've been over alot quicker. every other nato member is opening up new production lines for everything. Meanwhile in russia they are getting there production lines destroyed lol.

>>509287006
Where's the gotcha?
Yes the US fought the USSR using North Vietnamese.

>>509287106
>How come Ukraine has become more proficient in killing f16s than Russia?
Nigger, three weeks ago one of your Su-25s shot down his buddy with a DUMB ROCKET on video. There has been so much Russian friendly fire it's barely funny anymore.

>>509286992
Thankfully your gay country will soon be banished from here, because you are cattle. Pretending they are just getting weapons is pure cope. NATO is too gay to directly confront Russia, so they are using dumb hohols as pawns to fight a pseudo proxy war. Putting on a ukrainian uniform doesn't change the fact NATO soldiers are fighting, and NATO is prividing intel, targetting and tracking data, logistics, training and coordination, as well as actuallt fighting. Being too cowardly to do it under your own banner isn't the win you think it is.

>>509287213
There SU's and there associated engines were the last things people considered good quality. I saw that video it looked like it blew up from making a turn little to quickly. If it was friendly fire then hilarious.

>>509286818
>retarded sunglasses salesman still tries to insert itself into the conversation
Peak lendlease volumes were achieved in 1943 when the existential threat was reduced by a margin

>>509287213
You’re telling me Russia teabagged ukrainians with 50% of its pilots never making it back due to friendly fire? Neato

>>509287278
It's hard to tell in the video, but it definitely looks like his wingman shot at least near him. It's funny either way, but I'd like to believe that he managed to hit his friend with a rocket because that is impressively unlucky. Now that I think about it, didn't Russian sources claim that they lost that Su-35 to friendly fire? Or was it a patriot

>>509287349
This would be an epic own if Russia actually appeared to be doing well on the ground, but they're not, so it instead leads me to believe that Russia's poor performance on the ground probably IS related to the incompetence of its pilots.

>>509287106
>Now go ahead and replenish the stocks.
It's not current service equipment. It's old shit that was slated for decommission.

>>509287408
>brooooo one frogfoot ANNIHILATED the other!!!
>uhm acktuallee the rocket flew somewhat in the distance
>errrrmmmm in fact it might’ve been a turn taken too sharp to stress the airframe enough
Hahahah nigga make up your mind you fucking brainlet

>>509285012
None, but he asked why

>>509287495
I’ll reiterate it for you
>everyone and their mother knew what’s coming 30 years ago
>nobody ever made an effort to replenish the stocks or provide a capable industrial platform to do so
Wanna know why? Because nafo believed the current capacity would be enough to overthrow Putler and they dun fucked up silly. Now they eat shit and wail

>>509287480
>but they're not
>t. Kursk grunt
Stop retreating then idk you’re getting pretty fucking curbstomped

>>509287599
Where's Kursk? Western Ukraine? That's what I'd expect from "curbstomped"

>>509287570
Still stuck in ukraine for 3 years with whatever shit we had on hand to give them. When are you going to finish kicking the ukrainians out of kursk? Can russia even take over the baltics next and invade poland in its current state?

>>509287669
I love the combo of reframing and Gemini in a span of two posts. Ukrainian special
Hru niggers tongue my sweaty musty slimy balls

>>509280597 (OP)
Because they're NATO isn't fighting, Ivan. Your future generation is dying to the Zaporizhian Host because the Cossacks are stronger.

>>509287763
>Can russia even take over the baltics next and invade poland in its current state?
Should it?
>ukrainians in kursk
They’re busy starring in Shrek 5

>>509287841
Still losing retard

>>509280597 (OP)
You aren't fighting NATO, vania

>>509287106
Seems most European tried to engage with Russia in good fate and thought they could build lasting relations. Most French politicians (the whole right) was rather pro Russian before Ukraine's invasion for the simple fact that an alliance with Russia gave Europe more strategical autonomy.
>>509287101
Several months before starting to actually deliver weapons in meaningful numbers, stunned that Ukraine still exists
4 month before starting to think about sending HIMARS (one year and a half for atamcs)
More than one year to dare send the first tank
More than two year to dare think of sending a fighter jet.
Always in small insignificant number. Always some surplus .
If the US just reactivated 10% of it's reserve tanks, Ukraine would have received more Abrams than it has received western tanks during the whole war. And it's tanks lying in the desert, waiting to be decommissioned at some point.
There's tons of military hardware lying in NATO countries, but no political will to mobilize it.
Ukraine has received a trickle of military aid since the start of the war. That's a fact. Always not enough, always too late. So yeah. If NATO had sent it's obsolete equipment, by replacing it with modern variant, it would have been expensive (a short time increase in military spendings) and we would look at a different situation in ukraine

>>509287841
You haven't answered my question.
>we've almost kicked Ukraine out of Russia 3.5 years into the SMO
doesn't sound that good.

>>509281248
Almost as funny as Putin fearing this dude.

>>509284462
Look at them gooo

>>509284756
lmao there won’t be any pooles to defend it by then

>>509280597 (OP)
>KSHKSHKSHKSHKSHKSHKSHKSHKSHK

>>509280597 (OP)
If NATO was bombing Russia you and Putin would already be dead Igor.

>>509287986
Give me a prompt on how to assassinate Zelensky with a shit smeared yari

>>509287871
Ok so if NATO gets directly involved you just accept that russia would lose? I assume that's what you mean. Originally you shills would say that since ukraine will be defeated in this SMO you would seriously consider invading NATO and getting WW3 over with. But now its being answered with "Why would we". Russians cannot even take over ukraine and are coping by saying they will only take over the oblasts that they still do not have full control. Whenever and if ever NATO gets directly involved I promise you that the nukes you have will be disabled and you will lose. You cannot even protect your bomber fleets, your black sea fleet, your own factories producing these weapons for this war. Your soviet stocks are nearly empty.

>>509287963
Yeah Europe has industry and Russia has the energy to keep it afloat. Thank America for going full ex-gf on Europe and ruining your aspirations for relevance

>>509288078
>america bombards yemen
>fails
>america bombards iran
>fails
>w-we would totally demolish a country with the best air defence in the world right now
lol, lmao even

>>509288144
>you lost zigger!!! okay?
The decimation of Kiev will proceed as usual. No refunds

>>509288229
>best air defense in the world
how well did Russian air defense work in Iran?

>>509288233
Retreated from the territory in the start of the war. I highly doubt you can win this war. Not to mention you think your fighting NATO directly kek.

>>509288275
How well did Gemini work for you hrunya

>>509288229
pro russian pole. Must be a daddy fetish.

>>509283556
Name them then, faggot.

>>509288186
Dude, just stop. You can sell this cope to your friends in Africa and Latin America, maybe Hungary and Serbia but most of the western world has seen enough of Russia's ability to project power, which is why even smaller countries like Azerbaijan are telling you to go fuck yourself. The charade is off, nobody believes your alleged power and the only reason NATO hasn't memed you out of existence are the nukes you inherited from the Soviet union.

>>509288313
What does this even mean you schizo zigger

>>509288280
https://www.ft.com/content/fd4fe246-3dd7-449a-8740-70bcb0ba08a9
What does ukrainian discord think of ukrainian leaders BEGGING their Western masters to stop the war

>NATO vs Russia
Actually, it's North Korea fighting a proxy war against the US.

>>509288411
>hrukranny shill got caught using chatbots
Whoopsie daisy! A rare occurrence these days

>>509288275
>how well did Russian air defense work in Iran?
did iran have any? and seeing as their nuclear program is intact i'd say whatever they had worked well enough with extra points for forcing the invincible f-35 to take potshots out of iranian airspace once they got their AD up after the hack

>>509288477
>Intact
Based on what exactly? The words of a man in a dress?

Russians are simply wasting their resources by exchanging Russian stockpiles living in the shithole called Ukraine for shitskin mercenaries.
Either start a real war to quickly resolve this conflict to replenish your Slav stockpiles, or if that's impossible, cease hostilities.

>>509288432
NK gets all of the technology and new production methods to produce there own weapons. NK gets out of the thumb of China and gets a cooperative agreement to sell weapons and undesirables to the war for russia to test out said weapons. Russia gets demolished and bought up by china in the background. NK is now strong enough to tell everyone to fuck off forever.

Meanwhile in SK. SK mercs gain real world combat experience in ukraine, SK sells weapons abroad and makes bank for there growing economy. SK gets powerful and tells america to fuck off so they can finish the civil war with NK on there own terms.

Really other than US MIC it seams that china and both koreas are winning. SK however is kinda fucked and might go through a change of power through the military again but that is not a big deal in the grand schemes of things.

Russia might lose siberia to china to cope with the fact that they can't win a war with america let alone win a naval invasion of Taiwan if it comes down to the game theorists telling chink xi ping pong the truth or not.

>>509280597 (OP)
20 more years in jew war, z cattle

>>509288559
>Based on what exactly?
based on kikes kvetching and oy veying

>>509288769
>Appear to remain
You appear to be human but that's debatable since you're a Russian shill

>>509288477
>did Iran have any?
yes
>and seeing as their nuclear program is intact i'd say whatever they had worked well enough
that has nothing to do with their air defense and more to do with the nature of the US strike. Either way it did literally nothing against B-2s.
>forcing the invincible f-35 to take potshots out of iranian airspace
the entire point of stealth is to delay detection and then delay a firing solution once the enemy AD/plane/whatever sees you. If you're able to lob munitions at the enemy, there's no point in risking getting closer to their air defense even if you have stealth. Stealth is only really necessary if enemy AD outranges you, which evidently wasn't the case in Iran.

Because mutts cannot afford to fight the wars they start anymore. And it looks like their lapdogs aren't so eager to fight for their geopolitical/corporate interests either.
Don't forget, without jewSA, there is no GAYTO.

>>509287161
>Czechs promised to manufacture one million shells in three to four months and shipped only 40% of them in a year
any source for this that is not Sputnik? kek

>>509288664
China evaluates that in the event of a war with USA over Taiwan and the USA is not able to convince it's allies to join, they would win that war
I personally think they would lose anyway, but it would be a big fucking mess for everyone if they went ahead. so imo its important to hold up the idea that white people are united against china/russia
btw, everyone is learning a lot from the war in ukraine. the US military is currently trialing drone warfare tactics on the infantry level (with grenades dropped from mass produced drones) in german training camps and you can bet your ass the chinese handlers of russia are trying to do the same thing

>>509288931
2+2?

>>509289021
Same it would be an absolute shit show. Whatever they learned in Iran will make a difference but they have to act fast and make this war happen sooner than later. We will eventually have a missile base in Taiwan and there is nothing the chinks will do expect for whine about it.

Talking causalities we just assume the worse with 100k right off the bat due to missiles, drones and lost naval ships. Our recovery of said objectives in this region might take a year of back and forth but if we pull most of our focus out of europe then we could make a difference.

>>509289021
Of course

>>509289055
At least translate it you nigger

>>509280597 (OP)
B
E
C
A
U
S
E
THEY DON'T WANT TO
LMAO

>>509288769
of course
what, you really thought its not fake and gay?

>>509289285
The American strike and Iranian response were 100% coordinated but the actual war between Israel and Iran was real

>>509288915
lmao keep on coping shlomo
>>509288931
>yes
source on that? they used to have some s-300s iirc but according to israel they were all destroyed in previous attacks
>that has nothing to do with their air defense and more to do with the nature of the US strike.
true
>Either way it did literally nothing against B-2s.
it was the fakest and gayest exchange i've ever seen
>If you're able to lob munitions at the enemy, there's no point in risking getting closer to their air defense even if you have stealth.
shooting at random planes in other countries airspace sounds politically risky and if kikes really had air superiority over iran then it would be gaza'd

>>509280632
NATO still hasn't liberated the ukraine, which is losing land everyday by the way.
Strongest coalition in history with the 60 richest countries can't beat Russia, which is sanctioned in oblivion.
You faggots should be marching in Moscow two years ago. Russia shouldn't even exist anymore.

Russia isn't the second strongest army in the world anymore.
It is the strongest. Period.

None of he US has ever fought against come close to the NATO supported ukraine and the US always lose.

>>509289203
It says you’re a pidor with iodine deficiency and you can’t count to ten

>>509289396
What ever. I can forgive a russoid for being a retard because he lives his entire life under the same supreme leader but you have no excuses.
Hope when the war is over and the dust settles they extradite all the grifters and liars to be tried and hanged in Ukraine. All the ritters, hinkles and pikers deserve the rope.

>>509289166
link and translate the source, point out where it says that
>1)Czechs promised to manufacture one million shells in three to four months
>2)shipped only 40% of them in a year

>>509289641
how long do live under bibis reign?

>>509281148
dude, we destroyed more British and German tanks and gear than both have remaining

>>509289641
>All the ritters, hinkles and pikers deserve the rope.
don't be so salty, you gave it your best shot but your best just wasn't good enough just as nato best wasn't good enough to save ukraine

>>509289441
>standard paragraph cope

In reality:
>years later
>no denazification
>no demilitarization
>casualties still going

And then there’s a Russian senator straight up dropping a bomb on a Russian international conference too.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=l1WkmuxS86k&t=3691s

>uhm NATO trained, equipped and controlled army is the same as Saddam having T-55s
>also your proof is not proof

>>509285241
you realize, Russia can hit every single NATO airfield and infrastructure and you cant do shit about it?

>>509284389
kek

>>509289830
In direct contrast to Putin literally telling everyone in SPIEF that everything is ok lmao.

https://news-pravda.com/russia/2025/06/28/1475889.html

>>509289935
Hoholjak has dropped

>>509284462
Considering that the snail is half way to Berlin by now thats pretty pathetic.

>>509289748
since the year 2000 Israel has had 5 different prime ministers, Russia has had two presidents event though defacto Putin held all the power the entire time.

>>509289800
NATO isn't fighting in Ukraine. All Ukraine has access to is a trickle of outdated NATO kit and a small stream of volunteers from western countries. At least have the decency to recognize this simple truth.

>>509280597 (OP)
Because NATO is not fighting in Ukraine

More importantly why can't russia win in Ukraine?

>>509290213
>Ukraine never mattered for nato
I’m starting to get into this cope

>>509284389
>first help from any nato country came months later?
nato was pumping ukraine up since 2014

>>509289935
>NATO trained
cope
>NATO equipped
cope
>NATO controlled
cope overload
>Saddam having T-55s
They had 1500 T-72s in 1990. Pretty much the main tank of the current Russian forces today. Can't deal with what, 50 leopards and 30 abrams? kek. you know that the US produced over 10k M1 Abrams right? you haven't seen NATO at all yet. russia is a pathetic joke, thats why they have to beg north korea and iran for help, and grovel at their feet for scraps

>>509280597 (OP)

>>509290213
>NATO isn't fighting in Ukraine. All Ukraine has access to is a trickle of outdated NATO kit and a small stream of volunteers from western countries. At least have the decency to recognize this simple truth.
this is a lie and you are either misinformed, or more likly, just maliciously ignoring the truth

Both amount of economic and military help as well DIRECT involvement of nato into this war is unprecedented on all fields. De facto, WW3 is long going on.

>>509289964
For me it's the unmanned tsunami torpedo

>46 pbtid
mentally ill mongoloid mutt

>>509290213
he's been your leader for 17 years and still going
he just took a time out before and atter 9/11 to be less sus

>>509283737
>check pre invasion map
>Russia already controlled 7% of Ukraine
>they now hold 19%
>1 million russian casualties, tens of thousands of vehicles destroyed and lost Syria for 12 (twelve) % of their smaller, poorer neighbor
Holy fuck KEK

>>509290479
btw france my love when will you teach us to make our own nukes too :(

>>509290261
>>509290320
Youre parroting simonyan and other propagandons and I'm the malicious one?
Give me a break Vania, how much spaghetti can your ears hold? It's the 4th year of your 3 day SMO, wake up and smell the ashes already.
NATO committed microscopic amounts of aid to Ukraine, far FAR less than what you would like to believe and I don't even wanna talk about the nork and Iranian aid Russia has received.

>>509290213
>All Ukraine has access to is a trickle of outdated NATO kit and a small stream of volunteers from western countries.
so where did the hundreds of billion usd go? was it really only good for
>a trickle of outdated NATO kit

>>509290514
Dutch people cannot be trusted with nukes.

>>509290514
What do you even need nukes for? Evaporating the north sea so you can steal some more land from it?

>>509280597 (OP)
>Why can't NATO win in ukraine?
NATO is not fighting in Ukraine. Ukraine is. Russia is. NATO is not or you would already be dead shill.

>>509290603
pinky promise to only for humanitarian reasons

>>509290608
dont talk to me kike

>>509289441
Would you win in a direct engagement if US got involved in a direct invasion of Russia? You make it sound like the entirety of NATO has lost all of its equipment from the cold war.

>>509290634
>nafo stronk be very afraid
lmao thanks to ukraine nobody is buying that anymore

>>509280597 (OP)
Why are you baiting them? Nobody of worth is gonna fight for ILLGBT, feminism, forced multiculturalism, pods, and all things clownworld.

>>509290560
>Tallying the value of borderline expired military kit at it's production cost
>Muh billions

None of that shit is worth today what it cost to make 30-50 years ago, and yet the bills of captain Cheeto and his retarded cronies seem to think otherwise.

>>509290275
Thanks for clearly pointing out where you need to cope
>Can't deal with what, 50 leopards and 30 abrams?
Didn't change the game for some reason
>you know that the US produced over 10k M1 Abrams right?
How much does it produce now?
>you haven't seen NATO at all yet
No, I have seen its superior version with combat experience in the Zaporozhye steppe in the blistering hot summer of 2023
>why they have to beg north korea and iran for help, and grovel at their feet for scraps
It's not even a projection, it's a hutzpah retarded even by kike standarts

>>509290514
the fuck do you want with nukes?

>>509290764
>Russia gets btfo by Ukraine, a non-NATO country
>haha, this really shows HATO is weak and puccia is strong
Textbook projection.

>>509290545
>NATO committed microscopic amounts of aid to Ukraine
We’ve had this cope before and none of the aid or loans is getting paid for btw, ever lol

>>509290826
>No, I have seen its superior version with combat experience
Kek. Rofl even. The US air force alone could completely destroy the russian military.
>in the Zaporozhye steppe in the blistering hot summer of 2023
Interesting that you still bring this up 2 years later. Almost like it was the one time a Ukrainian offensive didn't result in complete humiliation for puccia. What are your thoughts on the disastrous failed puccian offensives that have happened since then, such as the Kharkiv and Sumy offensievs?

>>509290832
Personally? India/Pakistan/Bangladesh, Israel, Russia, sub-saharan Africa. In that order

>>509291046
Don't you have mermaid caves to nuke so you can increase your land mass without another massacre?

>>509290936
Why not? I know Ukrainians, they are industrious hard working people, especially west Ukrainians. If Germany was able to pay back it's loans, Ukraine will too.

>>509290780
>t-those weren't real wunderwaffels
>t-those weren't real billions
>o-orange man bad
shlomo are you feeling ok?

>>509290836
Which way RUS man?

>>509280597 (OP)
NATO is not fighting in Ukraine, vatnigg. If it was you’b be cubbified right in this moment instead of spamming slide threads.

>>509291085
I'm feeling great and about to have my lunch, hbu?

>>509291080
>especially west Ukrainians
Ukrainian economy was hanging on the Eastern Ukraine bro hahahahahahahah
Western niggers are pathetic lumpy retards with no skills whatsoever drop this lame anglo oriented shit

>>509291121
>I'm feeling great
good to hear, i was afraid you were overdosing on copium back there

Clownworld bros... When are you all gonna get in the humour to die for pedophiles?

>>509291164
The reason they continue fighting and killing thousands of Russians every month is because they prefer to decide for themselves how to live their lives and not be ordered around by Moscow. They aren't you.

>>509290826
We don't need more land right now, just less browns.

But unironically this one is expanded to include a new railyard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maasvlakte_2
There are some other ongoing stuff, like these new islands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marker_Wadden

But I would like to see is if they can get the airport at sea idea beyond the feasibility study stage

>>509291164
>hahahahahahahah
the pre-war GDP of the entire donbas represented at most 50%
you have almost 50 posts in this thread and are seriously mentally ill

>>509291358
>50%
15% rather, need to get coffee
https://www.ponarseurasia.org/rebuilding-ukraine-pre-war-trends-and-post-war-priorities-should-inform-the-process/

>>509284462
>I'll zoom in, that'll show 'em
Im not impressed Orban

>>509290974
>The US air force alone could completely destroy the russian military.
Xister, a single F-16 gamechanger would destroy the ruzzian military, but instead it couldn't even make to the frontline and lost at least 2 fights to flying scooters
>Interesting that you still bring this up 2 years later
It will be brought up even 200 years later as the buck breaking point for the whole westoid civilization
>Kharkiv
The Volchansk meat grinder? Kharkov oblast? Pigger supporters for some reason confuse the name of the city and the surrounding area, like in Kursk, where pigland controlled about 5% of the oblast territory
Which brings us to
>Sumy
How did it become an offensive in the first place after decisive pigger victory in Kursk? I thought the Sudzha grocery store was exchanged for Crimea or something

>>509290183
the snail already beat them to berlin a month ago

>>509290320
>unprecedented
they sent like 50 tanks
your losing to oinkraine

>>509291467
>Kyiv in 3 d-ACKKKKKKK

>>509284284
baZed RUSSIA killing the wh*teman for being NAZIS, right, /pol/?

Which way?

>>509291840
>(((whites)))
Anus friendly types?

>>509291550
Isn't the snail just half way through poland?.

>>509280597 (OP)
NATO isn’t fighting in Ukraine. If they were Russia would be btfo’d within a few days

>>509292093
You can't keep your women in line never mind keeping anyone's military in check. NATO will be BTFO and speaking Russian will become an asset.
t. knower

>>509291467
>deflection about F-16
You are being intentionally obtuse because you cannot cope with this fact. Or are you perhaps so retarded that you genuinely believe the Ukrainian and US air forces are comparable?
>buck breaking point for the whole westoid civilization
Holy shit kek. The humor may be lost on a pidor but it is very funny to me that you believe the one time Ukraine, your broke post-soviet neighbor, didn't make russian lines collapse and lose hundreds of km2 is a significant point for the west. You are fighting (and losing) a slap-fight with Ukraine and think you are defeating the global indoors plumbing alliance. KEK
>t-there was no Kharkiv offensiev
>t-the Sumy offensiev doesn't count because hohols we occupying puccia for months (this is somehow brag worthy)
It's genuinely over for pidorussia. Retards like you are so overdosed on copium and krokodil you can't even comprehend reality.

>>509292245
What do women have to do with NATO, schizo?

>>509284462
You can see individual farm fields on this map, like every single one lol. I can drive the distance in about 10 minutes.

>>509280597 (OP)
>Why can't NATO win in ukraine?
you lost over 80% of ukraine to nato.

>>509291358
>saaaar please stop shitting on nafo okay?
It’s a blessing

>>509293276
no retard, you are just mentally ill
straight up
all you do is lie, you're just a liar, as demonstrated
and demonstrated every single day, you can't help but lie
if only we had picked the right side in WW2 and exterminated subhumans like you

>>509292267
I find it hilarious how people think Russia is losing (they are not) because they are slowly ADVANCING and GAINING GROUND, and somehow think that Ukraine is winning because they are slowly LOSING.
By the way, even IF Ukraine somehow completely stops the Russian armed forces (they wont), they have already pretty much lost everything else, 50% of Ukraines population is either dead or fled the country and pretty much their entire country has been sold off to american companies.

>>509288229
Iran has the same air defense as Russia and they failed to shoot down a single Israeli jet.

Unless they can hide Kremlin kilometre deep under a mountain nothing can save them.

>>509293382
Make sure not to abuse chatbots next time you attempt larping as a White man, hrunya

>>509292267
>deflection
You dumb nigger faggot haven't answered a single question and then you oink about deflection
>The humor may be lost on a pidor
Yes, I can clearly see this
It is funny to see crimea beach party ads and how pidors claimed a single Leofart would make ziggers run
It's even funnier to see the denial when it didn't happen
The funniest is brain damage caused by estrogen and copium resulting in beliefs that somehow it's a single blunder which has nothing to do with real™ westoid "might", when every single westoid gamechanger laughably failed
>t-there was no Kharkiv offensiev
I was right, you really are iodine deficient and can't tell the difference between locations
>here are different markings, which means ziggers lost because they didn't take hrukov in 3 days
Total pigger victory, just like the rest of them
>t-the Sumy offensiev doesn't count because hohols we occupying puccia for months (this is somehow brag worthy)
Xister, your hoofs are shaking and you are hallucinating
Nobody is saying Sumy doesn't count, it's the contrary
You just can't make a connection to the Kursk for some reason
>hohols we occupying puccia for months (this is somehow brag worthy)
70k dead pigoids are still occupying it, minus 6 in dead piggers storage which returned to the undefeated Kiev
Although they completed their mission and won, so indeed it's nothing to brag about

>>509294014
what the fuck are you even talking about, you mentally ill retard? why are you like this?
is it the subhuman genetics or is it the alcoholism you experienced in the womb?

>>509280632
WTF???!! So putin was telling the truth? He really didn't want to invade all of Ukraine and all of Europe and cause WW3? He just wanted to free up the people being oppressed by the Ukrainian jewish scum?

>>509294071
I think a ukrainian escort gave me spiked salo the other night

>>509294314
I'll just assume it's not just your subhuman genetics, but a multitude of factors including not limited to drowning in vodka in the womb, such as your mother's syphilis infection.
good to know that you concede: you need a bullet to the eyes and your mongolmutt family should've been exterminated in WW2

>>509294111
Why'd he invade kiev then you retarded faggot?

>>509294489
Your jimmies seem rustled. Problem?

>20% central bank interest rate
>10% inflation
Good luck with that. Russian banks already see credit delinquencies spiking while EU is already done with their inflation cycle and are restarting spending.

>>509280632
I don't get why people act so smug about this. We've seen it time and time again in modern conflict where the conflict is frozen/stable/forgotten about for decades, then out of the blue, everything catastrophically flips in the span of a few weeks. If the US ever stops funding Ukraine, for example, you'd probably see the Ruskies do a Taliban-tier zerg rush.

>>509294489
I'd rather be a friend with a Russian than with an American mutt. God I hate your stupid country, the snake pit of all degeneracy with your stupid Hollywood garbage and pop industry. I hope that rest of the world will come together and erase the great satan, USA.

>>509294019
Your women are getting pounded by Chechens katsap nigger

>>509294506
Was it because the autistic Ukrainians baited him in?

>>509294622
>then out of the blue, everything catastrophically flips in the span of a few weeks.
I remember hearing this would happen when avdiivka fell
lol
LMAO

>>509294572
no one's upset here except for you, you've been spewing your mental illness for over 50 posts, noncensical lying smug bullshit, that's why I accept your concession that your mutted asiatic family should've been completely wiped out like the subhumans that you are

>>509292825
try it in the uraine pls

>>509290725
Retarded zog bot, the US west doesn't have the manpower

>>509285068
If NATO is unable to fight the conflict themselves, yes it is. The only reason Ukraine is important is because they're retarded enough to die for western governments

>>509294735
Mind how the “aussie” is still here. It’s the same hohol brigade larping as Europeans, one was bullied into switching IDs because he got caught with Gemini lol
>>509294741
It’s another Russian, pigbro. Get some sleep

>>509295673
utterly seething and raging so hard you're going schizo

>>509295673
yeah I'm sure it was you fucking retard, you're mentally ill enough to spew your bullshit all over this thread for over 50 posts, you're surely mentally ill enough to pop in with another ID when the thread is basically at bump limit like the mentally ill faggot that you are
why would I sleep at 6 am, you fucking retard? what the fuck time is it even in russia or ukraine? your posts make no sense, they're just a product of your mental illness

>>509295813
It’s funny how hohols always scream about muh timezones when caught redhanded. Post id with a timestamp bro I want to see the sunrise in Virginia

>>509296014
you were the one talking about timezones and going to sleep, you mentally retarded faggot
your posts make no sense whatsoever, you are a fucking retarded mongolmutt

You are all boring poofs talking about the same thing over and over again, and ignoring each other to whip out your "gotcha"

>>509296069
10 posts per hour in a span of 5 hours isn’t that many doe. So hohol hrunya will you post a pic of sunrise in America or btfo? Your problem is you really think all the Westerners, all the Americans, Australians etc care about your little irrelevant corrupt shithole. They don’t bro and they never will so you have to imitate the visibility of support hahah

>>509291279
I totally agree with you.
I hope that one day the United States will decide to live independently and not obey the creation of Israel in its government.

>>509289641
here, Martti wants to have a word with you...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9DQfJ1q23U

>>509296231
Your problem is that you're a mentally ill mongolmutt that thinks everyone who calls you out for being what you are (a subhuman) is Ukrainian.
Here's to the day where I watch you kill yourself in HD recorded by a drone in Ukraine from the comfort of my bumfuck nowhere birthplace in the USA.
Thank God Ukrainians are doing what we should be doing and should have done in WW2.

>>509296806
Currently I’m at Appalachian Falls too. Here’s a sneak peek. Oink for me piggy, oink oink

>>509296941
Pure cope. You're a subhuman. Maybe one day it'll click in your head what a fucking retard you are, in a moment of clarity, and you'll take the trash out yourself. Even then, maybe you shouldn't, you wouldn't want to take away the satsfaction from a Ukrainian to get good HD footage of your brain being splattered everywhere.