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>>509297916 (OP)
topfuckingkek

>>509297916 (OP)
Shut up goy they didn't need the heatlhcare

STOP NOTICING!

>>509297916 (OP)
fascinating, very cool.
now re-make the graph as a percentage of their base income

>>509297916 (OP)
Cite the line in the bill

>>509298066
This is the first thing I saw. That's how you know OP is a poor person that will never breed. Can't do basic math.

>>509297916 (OP)
theyre just extending the existing tax cuts. you whined about this same shit already 6 years ago when they first passed

>>509298066
ha yeah thats a good idea that one there HEY, should I also make a graph for the BULLIONS OF DOLLARS going to Trumps Jewish friends?

Meanwhile the poor will pay tariffs (they can bill "China" for it later) to make America great.

However those hats the jews wear, which are made in Spain, are tax exempt. I wonder why. Don't they know that we would PAY and they wouldn't be affected?

>>509298419
Now when it happens for what it happens determine the next step

>>509297916 (OP)
>poor people should get more free money
no, they need to die off

>>509299864

no they shouldn't. why would you say that? you are a socialist if you think poor people should starve, because that's what socialism does. capitalism gives them jobs and feeds them.

>>509297916 (OP)
lol k

>>509297916 (OP)
>Upper 20%
>Top 20%
Dumbass commies.

>people who earn more money benefit from tax cuts

Breaking News!

>>509298633
Yes

>>509297916 (OP)
Lol. Bottom 50% Pay little to no tax anyways. If anything they need a tax increase

>>509298066
You fucking pieces of shit are going to hang from lamposts in my lifetime and I will point and laugh when it happens.
Fuck you, anti-human vermin.

All that shit you're stockpiling is just loot.l for niggers.

>>509300197
the bottom pay the most taxes you absolute retard

>>509299930
let me rephrase: people should be left to feed themselves like adult people. if they cant, i dont mind if they die off

>>509300288
but people don't die off if left to themselves

they should be left to themselves but not the european "austerity" way. that just means stealing from them more. austerity should be no social services and no taxes. and no one dies off.

>>509297916 (OP)
Neo-cons want to trick them so they can laugh at them behind their backs and tell them that, "the left" did that to them. But the cucks don't even care since they are too busy shilling tranny-mania for deceptive and distraction reasons

>>509300242
>t. retard who doesn’t understand simple math and basic concepts

Good, I want amerimutts to suffer.

Jamal Jenkins who lives with his baby mamma and made $2300 working at the call center is only getting $3 tax relief, meanwhile Buzz Billsworth who owns a concrete company gets $50,000 in tax relief.

IT'S NOT FAIR!!!

>>509297916 (OP)
Fucking burgers are conditioned to such a degree that they don't have issues with tax cuts for the kikes on top

LMAO you niggers are pathetic. your funding fathers are rolling in their graves alongside niggers they owned

>>509300628

what would you rather do than tax cuts for the kikes on top?

i mean it's obviously better for the country if businesses do better. there's just something they missed and should do too, but it's not that tax cuts for the richest, in themselves, are a bad thing.

>>509297916 (OP)
This is sinply untrue b/c they arent factoring in that:
1) self employed people can just say 25k of their income is now tips and save rediculous amounts at tax season
2) 99% of servicepeople report half of their non-cc tips or less, they can now both pay less taxes and show more income which gives them upward mobility
They are both nono's, but small fry nono's by working class people so it goes unsaid, but everyone knows it. You need to calibrate to reality, not "official" karen narratives about things which dont acknoweledge the reality. A universal folly of the left.

Noticing is very antisemitic please report yourself to the nearest synagogue

>>509300628
Reagan brainwashed americans

>>509300628
>>509300845

>Europeans lecturing Americans about taxes

>>509297916 (OP)
>helps the top 20% the most
Well they pay the most. Also I am in that group lol.

>>509301125
That 20% pays like 80% its hilarious as they frame this as bad. Get good and be the big boy who pays taxes, owns a home and lives with no debts or be retarded and pay no taxes but have no money. Pretty fucking simple.

>>509301187
are you one of the broke retards that sent trump money last year?

>>509301301
>Giving money to politicians
>Voting
I am once again asking you to donate to me instead. No i just like tax cuts

>increased the standard to $16,000 and $32,000 for families
>directly effects the poorest americans
>also increased the child tax credit

>>509297916 (OP)
>the poor
That just means niggers - dont see why chuds would be upset about that.
You are only making yourself look like clowns with this fell for it shit. The only time they were actually like this was the Iran vs Israel situ.

>>509297916 (OP)
>mfw im in the top 20%
You lost, i voted for this

>>509299724
america doesnt have any poor people, we have lazy and stupid retards, especially retarded financially. you need to go to the 3rd world to see poor people.
TOTAL WELFARE CATTLE DEATH

>>509297936
>They fooled the useless waitress for life drunks

"TRUMP IS ONE OF US"

>>509301668
you mean everyone in america can afford to pay the price increases and go without that money until china reimburses them?

>>509297936
Who the fuck is doing this math?

$90? Yeah no.

>>509301668
>>509301760
40% of the US population does not work
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART/

>>509301668
Your biggest welfare recipients are the idle rich, who are not just giant lecherous jews and their golems, but they destructive. Even ghetto niggers aren’t as bad as the rich in the western world. 90% of them got their ill gotten gains from direct access to the money printer and deserve the wood chipper for what they’ve done with immigration, white genocide, and general faggotry.

>>509301890
well that's even more of a reason not to impose tariffs. how are going to pay more for things if they don't work?

>>509301056
here’s your award retard!

>>509297916 (OP)
>Top 20% is 105k in the US

Lol I was at that in my 20s. Any nigger not making 105k doesn't deserve tax cuts anyway

>Got exactly what I paid for award.

>>509301979
Pretty much but its more like an equal business protection method. On one hand you get tax revenue before these business start in america on the other hand you can make trade negations that are favorable for both countries and thus increase trade revenue. What the Trump admin(not trump) wanted to do was Tariffs and Federal sales taxes so they could entirely eliminate income tax for the average american. Who knows the balance on that but it did not go through so clearly the numbers were fucked.

(((Top1))) pay less, others has to pay more!
>makes you think

>>509297916 (OP)
We'll know in 6 months if deportations are rolling by then. Other shit is just jew games and both sides are exactly the same.

>>509297916 (OP)
Just be the top 1% bro
MIGA

I hope Trump supporters get a long suffering cancer.

>>509301788
>in billions

>>509301187
Maybe the top 20% is hoarding 80% of the wealth?

>>509302248

Ok since you're arguing in good faith I'll respond in good faith and explain my opinion unironically. You don't see that often on pol kek

I think that, first off, you get either the tariff or a beneficial deal with the threat of the tariff, not both. Let's say Trump gets a trade deal that lowers tariffs on both ends, that's better for everyone including the other country of course.

If he doesn't and you get the tariff, sure, the tariff has upsides too, it's not all bad. It's like with price limitations, there's shortages but at least the product is actually cheaper. Or with limitations on working hours, people are poorer but they do have to work less which is the point. Every socialist law has an actual upside too that people actually get, even if they also pay a price for it.

The government would get revenue on the tariffs as people pay them. And in cases in which the tariff made it worth it, people would get jobs manufacturing locally. That's all good and in fact, from the pov of tax collectors and people who get those jobs, tariffs are great.

The thing is, this can't be all there's to it. There has to be a cost to this somehow, because there wasn't some technological advancement that makes the country richer, it's just extra restrictions. A law can't make everyone richer.

The cost is the additional cost of either manufacturing at home where it'd b cheaper overseas or the tariff itself. And just like costs such as labor, transport, electricity, gas, reflect on prices, so would this. Because stores don't charge whatever they want for things, but as low as they can afford to, as they are subjected to competition in a market that constantly weeds out businesses that can't keep up with the others on either price of giving customers whatever they want.

>>509302933
Wealth and taxes on income is a different thing.

Wealth includes property which is often taxed by the states. Wealth can include stocks, 401k's and actual assets owned such as jewelry and savings accounts. If you wanted to tax wealth like holding stocks(not the selling of) then you would destroy the stock market over night regardless of what value you tax it at. Its all a made up value. My 100k in stocks right now could turn into 20k over night and stay that way for years if i choose failing companies like GE. The states often handle property taxes but not all of them tax on that or income tax. Hoarding wealth does not count.

We do not tax the lower percentage of people since they are poor. The states can do that if they want to.

You can play with this to see the numbers
This is also accounted for incomes also the link above is not completely accurate for various reasons but its a good ball park.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/203183/percentage-distribution-of-household-income-in-the-us/
https://smartasset.com/taxes/texas-tax-calculator

>>509303046
Pretty good write up. Honestly there is alot too it.

Here is my ball bark guess.

Tariffs, subsides, tax breaks and many other minor adjustments to these businesses can allow them to compete with forigen markets. America has done this to the auto industry for another reason. (Strategic manufacturing) and resources like coal and oil(Strategic resources) or steel(Strategic supply chain) if its done in a blanket across every industry like trump has then its likely a negotiation. If its done in a fine tooth pick method like CHIPS act under biden then its to bring back an entire industry that we used to own the entire production line for. Now we, euro and japan just own the R&D.

This goverment meddling is a given for all countries. You would never want to have free market controls over every aspect of every industry especially food. I have heard of idiots on youtube say food is expensive to protecti

>>509297916 (OP)
>The kike globalist is there for the globalist.
>The 200 million donation from some kike was not enough evidence?

lmao the collapse of america is going to be hilarious

crazy how all trump supporters are in the top 20% of earners now when last year they were all poor fastfood laborers.

>Poltards don't understand proportions
Big news at 11: the sky is blue

>>509299724
My $20 shirt might, and that's a big might, cost $22. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>509304285

i mean. 22 is more than 20. so that's objectively a bad thing.

>>509300242
Imagine being this angry when someone tells you how data is being manipulated

>>509303652

free market control over food would probably be fine. people would just be more skeptical of brands they don't know, look for certifications they trust etc

there is no law that says a pajeet can't call your grandma and have her wire him all of her money, and still it doesn't happen to most old people. people are smart and don't even need the government that much.

government meddling is not all bad and not even necessarily always bad btw. im just saying there is a cost to it. all of what you said about industries getting subsidies and tariffs is paid by people one way or another.

No refunds

>>509297916 (OP)
feels good being a white landowner

Add Massie to the fell for it again award.

>>509304709
Do you understand how percentages work?

i'm so happy our billionaire masters will get big tax cuts making the deficit blow up so us poors can pay debt

>>509297916 (OP)
Rich people don't make income you retard. Retards make income lol.

>>509297916 (OP)
>people who don't pay any taxes don't benefit from tax breaks
woah anon is on his smartest day living his best life

>>509304706
Your thinking of getting food from the grocery store. No getting food from farmers is why its not free market. Japan while not really efficient for rice production has protections in place so next time they go to war they atleast have something to feed there people even if its a measly amount of calories per person.

yes there is a cost but the cost could be at the mercy of another country. Someone even you have to pay for government meddling. If we did not have our steel industry protected we would be entirely reliant on china who we might go to war with. They over produce so much steel due to government meddling that their companies are failing and going bankrupt. Not even there military spending can cover that much steel production locally. No other country wants it since if china goes to war and they lose that material it would severely hurt their own industries. Or it would hurt there own steel manufacturing.

>>509298633
Go ahead, let’s see it.

>>509297916 (OP)
The bottom 50% don't pay taxes and most are foreign democrats.

>>509297916 (OP)
Looks like people who pay taxes reap the rewards. We have too much dead weight in America anyway.

>>509304920

then the cost could be worth it, idk. i didnt say it's never worth it.

wdym people would get food from farmers in a free market? what prevents it currently?

I think this graph is trying to trick me

>>509304877
Warren buffets salary is like 100k a year, his secretary technically makes more than him.... yet, you know.

>>509304807
The largest fallacy out there is that Jews are one monolithic block. Don't get me wrong, they all want your family enslaved for their profit. HOW you are enslaved is the matter of contention. The actual smart jews want the consumerist tax cattle arrangement to continue and are pissed that the "kill them all faction" seems to be pulling ahead and exposing the game.

>>509305101
Sorry for the confusion. If we had free market on farmers with no government meddling then you would be a mercy to another country that has meddling or over production of food.

Take the russian/ukraine war. They produced a fuckload of the food and fertilizers farmers need to grow food. Particular the grains such as barely, oats, buckwheat and wheat. If the free market was entirely in play then they would be growing even more food than just what they did.

What this would cause is a world wide shortage since other countries divereted there food production to what could be profitable alternatives to compete with the free market. But in times of war you want what feeds people. Berries and nuts are entirely seasonal and feed less people for less long lasting storage methods. So what goverments do is they meddle in these markets to force farmers to grow vital food groups such as grain and thus be prepared for a shortage elsewhere in the world due to failed crops, wars and trade relation issues. Not to mention shipping times for most food is not feasable or atleast very expensive to the consumer so if everyone grew a grain then the local cost would reduce since there is more grain grown across the world. Similar effects are seen in the energy markets if everyone produces you have more independence from other countries and generally lower prices. If one person produces then they have not just more power but more political power over others.

Yes the consumer pays either through taxes to support these industries or is forced to pay for these products locally but it serves a purpose. Free market is a new idea but this is the middle ground whereas complete market control in the communist sense is a failed idea since they controlled both the inputs, government meddling and outputs. Kings did the same shit but had far less control over there own markets.

>>509297916 (OP)
>ITT: seething poorfags and plebian scum
Lmao how about instead of crying about being poor, maybe just stop being poor?

>>509305598
free luigi

>>509305476

We don't know because people are desperate for business opportunities. There could be people who see the risk and make preparations to replace them straight away.

The thing is, people are willing to pay for what they want or need. So I think it's unlikely that anything would not work under the free market.

But of course I still think government meddling may be worth it in some cases, don't get me wrong.

>>509300628
We are a country of docile nigger cattle and I'm ashamed of even typing the words. Everything in this satan run country is catered, pimped, and poisoned. Big banks and big corporations will continue to run this county in the ground until there is no wealth left.

desu senpai I'm living debt free in my own home so I can't be fucked to give a shit about much anymore.

>$6000/$500,000 = 0.012% savings
>$1000/$50,000 = 2% savings
Looks like the middle class is winning with this bill.

>>509305754
At least your open. Just don't be one of those that thinks other countries have your best interest in mind when they sell you cheap shit. Nothing is free at the end of the day.

>>509297916 (OP)
>spending changes
So this bill forces poor people to buy more things?

>>509305682
That won't make you stop being poor. Work and saving will.

>>509297916 (OP)
It needs to go to israel, you mutts have a duty

>>509305866

I agree

Government meddling should be the exception though. Not something like "it's bad when people lose their jobs so let's make layoffs illegal"

>>509306431
>it's bad when people lose their jobs so let's make layoffs illegal
I feel like commies have said that before on reddit. Yeah same goes with them hating farmers since they own land as if there slave driving a bunch of slavs like the culaks did. They want to entirely make food free market which would destroy nations as my prior examples. Or they have the goverment completely own the farm production which meant food production in russia was so bad that they had to get food from USA/western europe for trade in oil/natural gas. Yes i get the excuses they survived WW2 and lost a ton of people who could work the farms but was it really a valid excuse after 1980?

My tax bill goes down by 10k with the trump tax cuts so yes I did vote for it and yes it encourages me to keep working

>>509306602

kek

i saw a redditor say something like "we need to rebel against capitalism. what do we have to lose? netflix and ubereats? i say let's do it i dont care"

they take it for granted and they deserve to lose it, but unfortunately normal people would suffer too if that happened so i hope they can't ruin it

>>509306602
>Or they have the goverment completely own the farm production which meant food production in russia was so bad that they had to get food from USA/western europe for trade in oil/natural gas.

basically lol

every commie country has an excuse

for cuba it's the US embargo. for venezuela it's also some US trade restrictions. for the soviet union its ww2

when there's no excuse they say it's just not communist enough and blame businesses, like in argentina

>>509297916 (OP)
>>509303031
who ever that thug shaker cunt is

that type of shit there fucked up

people do not tolerate that

>>509297916 (OP)
There should be austerity across the board. This trading handouts between the rich and poor while the national debt skyrockets is absolutely fucked.

>>509306741
Gonna dump that money right into my house. What date does this go into affect? I want too get ready for the day that extra money comes in to spend it.

>>509306996
Funny that they still traded with the USSR we only blockaded them for a year max during that crisis.

>>509305383
Ya so Buffet there is an example also likely to show you than spending wise. You get to a point where more income isn't really needed. The guy is absolutely loaded don't get me wrong. Some wealthy people spend more than others and thus would need to have more cash to move around. In the bigger leagues its more trading assets themselves instead of dollars for assets. Wealthy people who NEED dollars is usually when they are in trouble.

Think about someone making 20k a year. They're going to be struggling to survive. If you tripled their income to 60k they'd be a lot better off. Now look at someone making 300k a year. If you tripled their income to 900k, sure they can start to afford more fancy things yes. But there is obviously diminishing returns, specially when you consider that extra 600k they make will be taxed heavier.

>>509298066
this lmao. Obviously 5% of 5,000 is going to be a much smaller number than 5% of 5,000,000. Some manipulative slop for retards.

>>509306172
lmao this should be like 90% tax

im going to key all their 100k cars they buy with their tax cuts

:3

>>509297916 (OP)
>People who pay all the taxes benefit the most from tax breaks
>Useless pondscum will have their gibbs go down
I literally voted for this
You lost
3 years and 5 months to go

>>509297916 (OP)
I am sure the rich will go back to the USA and not keep sending funds to other nations to avoid paying any taxes at all. Worst of all no decrease to spending. American's will feel the effect of a weaker dollar whilst China and its allies expand their agression.

>>509297916 (OP)
> BudgetLab at Yale

Fuck of, powerfaggot, and take your homo-yid fiction with you.

>>509297936
There are no tax cuts except overtime and tips, you cock riding moron. The tax rates will be the same after the bill passes as they were before.

Meanwhile you anus will continue to get pounded by niggers before and after.

>>509298120
And of course the super queer ignores you.

>>509300762
business != business owners

What would I do? firstly incentivize child birth and education. More kids/better education less tax. incentivize local products and enterprises. if big companies want less tax? split. it's that simple
>>509301056
negro you even have VAT but it's called "State tax" you're just too stupid to fathom that.
>>509305786
congrats. I need another year and a half to be totally debt free

>>509308133
I don't have state taxes

>>509297916 (OP)
Does nobody know how a progressive tax system works?

>>509297916 (OP)
Fell for it again.

>>509307118
It goes into effect when house passes it and trump signs it.
You will reap the benefits when you do your taxes for 2025. Unless you are a poorfag on Medicaid or and illegal, in which case get a job or get out of the country, respectively.

>>509297916 (OP)
Sweet, I get the highest tax cut.

Thanks for funding my tax break this year tradies, think I’ll buy a second Waverunner for the dock

>>509297916 (OP)
>thats wut I verteded fer!!!!!

>>509307134
His son is funding a right wing Militia down by the border.
Don't spend your money on nonsense conspicuous consumption when you can fund Right Wing Death Squads.

>>509297916 (OP)
OP has mental illness.
As an older dude who experienced some of the times before the internet, it often seems like we lost something essential in our communication, where there is no longer a consequence for bad behavior. If someone called me a chud and laughed at me in real life, I could front kick them in the dick and then roundhouse kick them in the face and then jump real high and power stomp on their femur to crack it in two. But on the internet I'm unable to do any violence to the person who insulted me. And I feel like that really diminishes the quality of communication that the threat of intense violence isn't enforced to better the behavior of antisocial mentally ill people like OP.

>>509297916 (OP)
Middle class gets smoked again. My property taxes went up another 10% and my income is being taxed another 5%. Homeowners insurance has tripled in 5 years. I make $125k before taxes. Kek. I take home less than$75 now. I'll have to check at the end of the year but I'm planning for $68k. Thanks Obama.

>>509297916 (OP)
>Represented as a flat dollar amount
>People that make more money save more money
Shocking really. My wife and I paid over 100k in taxes this past year and still owed 4k. Fuck all the way off.

NO REFUNDS

>>509300242
>Lefty/pol/ having a melty
Don't drop the mask. You're supposed to pretend to be one of us concern trolling.

>>509308428
Illegals are keeping all their benefits and no one is deporting them. Don't be an idiot. I know guys on Medicaid. Self employed, got hurt, couldn't afford insurance. Got fixed. Went back to work. You faggots thinking it's all lazy people on benefits and that immigrants are going to somehow stop being dole bludgers need to sit down.

>>509308838
That is the thing with leftist
they talk tough behind a screen but if they said that to my face they'd get their skull bashed in

>>509309008
>YOUSE CONCERN TROLLING
>he says as he takes miles of kike cock straight up his shitter
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LARPING FUCKHEAD

>>509304285
The reality is that it costs the Chinese seller 2 cents to make the shirt and they'll just lower the selling price to make sure the product stays the same price after tariffs because they're all racing to the bottom.

>>509297916 (OP)
don't care i'm rich

>>509300270
Nobody wants to hear Spain's opinion on austerity.

>>509297916 (OP)
based, i'm barely in the top 20th percentile. crush, torture, and mutilate all red state MIGA poorfags.

>>509309077
>Australian is big mad about tax policy in America
Help me care about your upside-down gas sniffing opinion, Jedda.

>>509297936
So instead of paying 250,000 in taxes they will pay $249,000?

>>509308370
Oh they know. This collection of foreign flags are part of an organized raiding effort by gaypers to support democratic policies.

the bottom 20% of society are not blue collar workers you massive fucking retards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the bottom 20% are literally homeless drugaddicts, fuck them you dumb stupid niggers

the bill is beneficial for 60% of society, the 80% which are the most productive, low 20% stays the same

only bottom 20% will suffer and those are people beyond help anyway

>>509297916 (OP)
>tax cuts for the middle class
wow, if only Trump had run on this

>>509308370
the anti-Trump fags on this site are either underage or unemployed, they don't pay taxes at all

>>509309522
>>509309602
>costa rican niggermonkey too retarded to understand percentiles
the chart shows the bottom 40th percentile would receive no benefit. 40th percentile household income is about $65k/year.

>>509309476
Wow. You are actually retarded.

What are they looking at when they calculate "top 20%"? Is that income percentile? I'm at the 93rd percentile so I guess I'm pretty happy about it.

>>509297916 (OP)

>he thinks the bottom 40%, welfare recipients on SNAP and section 8, are Trump supporters

>>509309748
I know you feel guilty that you where born rich and white, but you simply have not dealt with poor people

there is a good reason why the bottom 20% are where they are, they are people with no impulse control, no vision for the future, they dont give a fuck about improving their lives

kill yourself if you cant handle the guilt, make your circle pay with the suffering of your death, make a letter exposing how unfair and evil society is, and say you are killing yourself in protest

go ahead, dont be evil

>>509309928
household income percentile

>>509298066
>The poor deserve to pay MORE tax
lmao, americans are actually satanists and trump fans are those retards who say shit like 'I don't care if I'm the bad guy, im a winner'.

>>509310049
>be fucking trash people
>10 lazy bums take advantage of a family member
>the only family member working is supporting all of their parasitic cousins and brothers
>you get a household with 10 members but less that minimum wage in income

this shit is always like this, of that bottom 20%, 19% dont do absolute shit, only crime, and the 1% of the 20 are being taken advantage of, by their lazy families

look kid, this people have no remedy, you need to understand this

>>509310336
if this is the case why don't we torture and kill them for fun? why even let them live?

>>509310382
>why don't we torture and kill them for fun
>since stuff isnt how I like, I will become evil

you are the quintessential atheist, evil existing and people being evil, doesnt justify you being evil as well

what needs to be done with those people is let them dry out, die out

you cut their gibs, they resort to crime, they die or get imprisoned....

>>509310576
or they actually get their shit together and start working

>>509309727
And the magafags are all super rich and successful...riiiiight. Which is why you don't see how wack this bill is. You're larping as some richfag. I'm middle class and this bill sucks ass. If you're poor (99% of magafags) it also sucks. Only the delusional have the mind that anything that has been happening is a good thing.
Illegals aren't actually being deported.
More immigrants are coming
More taxes for the middle class.
White men once again being looked over.
Education is still eluding young white men
Health care sucks and the cost is rising.
Property taxes increasing.
Insurance increasing.
Inflation sucks.
Corporate executives salaries rising while we all have to pretend the increase in the cost of goods is because of the boom/bust cycle.
It's all bullshit from top of the marquee to the stage from which these faggots pilpul all of us.

>>509302799
They will, but so will you. You can blame DuPont, Exxon, big oil, Nestlé, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.

>>509310491
if they are subhuman niggers like you said then we should punish them accordingly. this isn't evil.

>make 100m per year
>your tax cuts are larger since 1% of that is bigger than 1% of 100k
wow its fucking nothing

>>509297916 (OP)
i'm upper 20%. life is good and i continue to get what i voted for.

>>509297916 (OP)
>>509297936
>*cough* *cough* hehe, rent free, eat shit libtards *dies in front of hospital*

IMAGINE BEING AMERICAN IF U ARE SICK U DIE OR END UP WITH DEBT TO THE REST OF YOUR LIFE
AND U SPEND 9 HOURS AT WORK BECAUSE LANUCH IS NOT PAID
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHH AND AT THE END OF THE DAY U GET A BULLET TO THE HEAD FROM A NIGGER
AHAHAHAHHAHAAA WHILE YOUR DAUGTHER GETS RAPED BY SPIC FROM VENEZUELA
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA AMERICAN DREAM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAA

>MAGA and /ptg/ dropped all pretense of Trump being for the lower and middle classes
>Now if you don't want to work an $8/hr wagie job they call you a parasite

>>509297916 (OP)
money goes to job creators? is that a bad thing?

>>509311190
>>509311248
Liberals are mad their pet illegals are getting deported and kicked off welfare and you NAFO eurolibs are mad ukriane isn't getting more gibs.
lol keep seething you fucking freaks

>>509311421
trump is carving out an exception for niggermonkey spicbeaner illegals who work on farms and in hotels. keep coping you fat retard faggot nigger.

>>509311421
>theyre getting deported
Lel. No they arent. Not in appreciable numbers. The ones that did will be back next year. The ones that are here still get their benefits. The only people losing benefits will be white Americans.

>>509297916 (OP)
OP is a poorfag.

AHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>509310827
>blah blah blah I'm a retarded gay nigger
not reading all that, you lost tranny lol

>>509311336
the OP shows a middle class tax cut, you retarded fucking leaf

>>509311511
>>509311694
>t. mad liberals
Oh no!

>>509311421
ILLEGAS ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE U MORON
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA EVEN TRUMP SAID IT THAT PEOPLE THAT WORK ON FARMS HOTES ETC WILL STAY
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH U LOST NIGGER

>>509309476
you can't read or form a coherent thought. Hope you get well soon.

>>509311876
Ukraine lost get over it go away already you deranged eurotards

>>509311807
I bet money you're on your parents insurance and can't afford to live on your own.

>>509298066
>>509298386
>>509307236
is that gonna help make sure you see that the bottom 20% are gonna get their taxes up (their asses)?

>>509311900
MUH UKRAINE
NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT IT IN POOLAND SINCE 2023
U ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT UKRAINE WHILE U LIVE ON ANOTHER SIDE OF A GLBOE
KILL YOURSELF KEK

>source
Anus

>>509311863
yeah keeping illegal brown spic retards in america to work farm/hotel jobs is based and really owns the libs. MIGA!

>>509297916 (OP)
Friendly reminder that when these people say 'the rich', they mean
ANYONE WHO PAYS TAXES

>>509311926
well you're wrong on both counts, so go kill yourself

>>509311863
This post applies to you too>>509311926
I voted for spics to be deported.
I voted for white people to stopped being over looked.
Spics aren't being deported.
Whites are going to lose their safety net.
You fags are one ankle twist away from realizing how little you're regarded.

>>509300270
>the bottom pay the most taxes
The top 1% pays 40% of the taxes
So no. The bottom 50% does not pay 50+% of the taxes. The top 10% is already paying far more than 50%

>>509312096
you're arguing with a literal retard who should be beaten to death with a sledgehammer.

>>509312070
I'm sure I'm right. I make north of 100k per year and this bill sucks ass. So unless you're some high value male (on 4chan in the middle of the day in the middle of the week) or you're a child on summer vacation. Good money is on the latter.

MIGA retards will gladly give all of their wealth to Mr. Shekelberg if Donny tells them to. There's no reasoning with them.

>>509311973
The bottom 20% doesn't make enough to surmount the threshold required to pay taxes in the first place.

Retards see line go up and they don't realize it's all funded by unsustainable debt and 99% of it goes to the top 1%. If you aren't making over 1M a year you are losing out on this bill.

>>509309128
Exactly. That's what we saw in 2018-2019 when the first round of tariffs were applied to Chinese goods. The sellers want to maintain their razor-thin profit margins, so they lowered their prices. Not many people understand the economics of tariffs. Companies know that consumers will inevitably find alternatives, but if you scream "the sky is falling" loud enough, people with lukewarm IQ, i.e. the majority of the pop., will believe you.

>>509312284
>If you aren't making over 1M a year you are losing out on this bill.
This is retarded. Even OP's graph proves you wrong.
>it's all funded by unsustainable debt
Which is why storing value in currency is retarded in the first place.

>>509312219
>I'm sure I'm right.
well, you're not
>I make north of 100k per year
no, you don't
>and this bill sucks ass. So unless you're some high value male (on 4chan in the middle of the day in the middle of the week) or you're a child on summer vacation. Good money is on the latter.
I make 80k/yr and I go in to work at 3, retard nigger

>>509312430
>2nd shift hourly retard laborer: the post

>>509311895
So can you explain the numbers to us, please?
For the sake of us, without coherent thoughts :)

>>509312314
It's not that people don't understand tariffs, necessarily, it's that they don't realize how ripped they are at the checkout. Lol. They think "145% on my $20 shirt is crazy" when it's really 145% on $1.

>>509297916 (OP)
Without looking, I bet a bunch of the thread is getting on like they're in the upper brackets and it doesnt affect them when they are in fact in the lower 20% at best.

>>509312519
2nd shift MANAGERIAL hourly retard laborer, and I make more than you, tranny :)

>>509300270
>Spain
Shut up and pay up mongoloids

>>509299864
>no, they need to die off
But then a new group of people are the poor people.

>>509312745
i make $120k after bonus and i work from home. i'm "at work" right now. i'm also underpaid and will be looking for a new job $160k+ when the job market unfucks itself.

>>509312430
Well, enjoy your taxes going up along with your insurance and property tax/rent, retard. Spics are going to stay while you champion your own safety-net being obliterated. Like I said, you fags are 1 slip on the ice or 1 wrong step in a mole mound away from realizing how little you're regarded. Trust me on that shit.
And yes, I do make just over 6figs. Just under the top 20% of earners. Which is where the middle class, unfortunately, begins, poorfag. It's unusual to hear some off-peak wagie making 80k call others poorfags when youre barely able to save 10k a year. You must not have a family.

All of this is just retarded libshit talking points. It assumes the average consumer will take the full tariff cost and not gain anything in return.
I don't really want corps to get huge subsidies, unless they are also promising something for the workers or public in turn. But this is never on the table so it's not really important.

>>509297916 (OP)
its immoral to tax the pedophile elites we need them to innovate us new jobs,you are commie if you think otherwise.

>>509312396
Look up debt and then get back to me kike

>>509312728
>Some bong is very invested in American tax policy
Fuck off Nigel. The invasion is coming from inside the house and the windows don't open all the way.

Look at all these pathetic pig yuppies on /pol/ proving once again they in fact do NOT care about race, but rather class. These fucks really think are apart of the club. The kike billionaires view you the same as you view a homeless junkie. One in the same. Keep reaching for that jew dick though, fucking pussies.

>>509312959
>>509313038
cry moar lmao

>>509308838
so you wanna kick my ass because you're mad about Trump giving billions to Jews?

>>509297936
>$30 on no tax for overtime
>$90 for no tax on tips
@Brendan_Duke is apparently a mathematical retard. Of course leftists would listen to this

>>509297916 (OP)
The rich pay the majority of taxes, so it's only fair they benefit most from tax cuts. The real issue is that these tax cuts are happening in the first place.

>>509313195
you're poor, retarded, and work a low status wagenigger job on a slave shift.

>>509297916 (OP)
1 trillion dollars for people that are already rich?

Trump got welfare backwards.

Trickle Deez nuts.

>>509312005
>>509312096
>former drumpf voters
Oh no! Just remember you have no impact here and your shilling is irrelevant.
Best of luck!

>>509297916 (OP)

>Tax cuts for Zionist gambling moguls

Of course Zognald is going to try to push this. Miriam Adelson donated 100+ million dollars to Zognald's campaign, let alone what Sheldon Adelson donated the last time to move the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Old faggot is burning in Sheol now, but his demonic wife remains to do his evil. Zognald is swimming in money, so there is zero chance he's not going to do everything his master demands of him. Every checkbox ticked, every veto pushed, whatever is asked of him, Zognald will do. Yes, just give the kike whore the Medal of Freedom. That's a good trick and she's a good friend. Not that it is any better on the left. Uncle Joe gave one of those fucking medals to George Soros too

>Be a hideous kike scheming and scamming everyone out of their money while you destroy their country
>Get awarded the Medal of Freedom for your valiant efforts and treason against the American people by the President of the Untied States

God bless this country. Fucks sake...

>>509313195
>mid 30s male without an education thinks he's "owning the libs" by removing the safety-net he's only luckily avoided
Beans, nigs, and single whores will still be collecting gibs when your inevitable slip walking out to your car that you pay $400/month leaves you incapable of working and paying bills. Should have read the fine print, fren.

>>509297916 (OP)

Ofcourse...Trump is crook who are interest in just filling his own pockets before he removed away from that position...one way or the other.

>>509313328
Commies suddenly hate central planning

>>509313542
NAFO is particularly uppity today aren't you!

>>509313261
>>509301788
Do you not understand the graph or something anon?

>>509298633
I would like to know, with names please

>>509313096
You lot can do what you like, you MAGA dickriders just amuse me.

>>509300038
Upper middle class, dumbass.

>>509300060
Jews shouldn't get tax cuts.

>>509306172
>BBB
>bbb
>666
so same group as Build Back Better?

>>509311248
>IMAGINE BEING AMERICAN IF U ARE SICK U DIE OR END UP WITH DEBT TO THE REST OF YOUR LIFE
nah, you just declare bankruptcy if it's that bad.

>>509298066
>let me pull additional crap out of my ass
when will you repuclitards ever understand that this will never work.
work with what you have, no one will give a shit about what you propose, when will you ever learn this you numbnuts.

youre hopeless idiots just like the liberals.

>>509297916 (OP)
>FELL FOR IT AGAIN CHUDS
millions lose health care and die but Alaska gets an exemption hahahaha, what a country! E Pluribus Unum amirite?

>>509313286
>>509313481
>b-but what about my headcanon...
you lost tranny lmao

>>509297916 (OP)
>this just in: 5% of $300,000 is more than 5% of $25,000
Hilarious that shit like these graphs are what radicalizes libs

>>509313765
>It's dick riding to want my taxes lower
K. Aren't you gonna be late to call to prayer?

>>509313970
The top 20% to 25% of earners are the middle class. The metric used by the government to determine economic status is pants-on-head retarded unless you think earning 32k a year makes you "middle class" and not broke as fuck.

>>509313095
In 1962 the Mona Lisa was valued at $100M
In 2017 is was revalued at $860M.
Again: storing value in currency is retarded. Kys.

>>509297916 (OP)
JEWS SAID THEMSELVES THAT POVERTY IS THEIR WEAPON
pic very rel

>>509314266
hey wagie better rest up. couple more hours and you'll be sitting in a filthy ratfuck shithole industrial site barely grinding out a middle class living.

>>509314239
>37199
DJI is currently sitting at 44500
And all-time high is 45000

>>509314556
>still crying
about to go work out, keep angrily dilating to own the orange men :)

>>509297916 (OP)
>cut taxes by 1% across the board
>Someone who makes 100k pays 1k less
>someone who makes 100m pays 1m less
>bottom 20% pay no taxes
>their “income” is from taxes
Wowowwwowwowowowoowowwow MATH!

>>509314307
>>this just in: 5% of $300,000 is more than 5% of $25,000
>Hilarious that shit like these graphs are what radicalizes libs
which is why flat tax makes no sense
and a 90% top marginal tax is needed as a check against plutocracy
America is all about checks and balances against tyranny, we are now in a plutocracy verging on tyranny with no check or balance against plutocratic power except to tax them back to pre-billionaire status
but aint gonna happen
so America is kaput finis lights out thanks for playing
gg
insert quarter to play again

>>509301056
They get a lot more in return for their taxes than you. Like free healthcare lol

>>509314266
You work overtime to make 80k. Some guy not working OT making 70k probably brings home as much as you do. Enjoy your next raise only to find out you're bringing home less than you did. Welcome go calculus, educationlet.

>>509314393
>The top 20% to 25% of earners are the middle class. The metric used by the government to determine economic status is pants-on-head retarded unless you think earning 32k a year makes you "middle class" and not broke as fuck.
if 55k is median income, and bottom 15% is poverty class, then 32k makes you working class

>>509314636
Turns out that a tax-cut across the board is fucking retarded. Welcome to math, niggerbrains

Every society has a underclass. I want my underclass to be of my own people though. My taxes should pay into a social safety net that benefits MY people, not a bunch of nigs and spics. If tomorrow we stoped all welfare to non whites we would instantly solve most of the debt problems.

>>509297916 (OP)
So everyone makes more but because rich people make more the raw amount as a percentage is greater, amazing stuff.

>>509312618
>In Billions
Please learn to read, retard

>>509314909
>if 55k is median income
It's not. Median income in the US is 48k

>>509312728
The argument before the bill was that everyone's taxes except the rich would go up.
Now they admit everyone saw their taxes go down but now it's bad because it's a flat tax.
Arguing about the fairness of a flat tax is an entirely different argument. So no one "fell" for anything.

>>509314938
nigga this isn't middle school gang banging with le "my people"

go eat a bowl of cereal.

>>509297916 (OP)
>>509297936
Why is the number of people in percentages and the savings shown in flat dollar amounts? If someone pays 1 million dollars yearly in taxes then saving 6k is a fart in the wind, but if you pay 20k in taxes and you get to save 2k then I assume it's more noticeable?

>>509298633
>j00z j00z j00z j00z j00z j00z j00z j00z j00z j00z j00z
It's honestly hilarious to me, how miserable, obsessed & schizophrenic mudslime brains are. The Jews have ensured you'll never know a single moment of peace. That makes them based and you a pathetic dysgenic loser retard. Enjoy your hellish existence, inbred retard! KEK

>>509314909
Spending power is the only thing worth mentioning. If the middle class could save for retirement and buy a house then why are we considering people that make 50k middle class? All achievable life goals can't be met at 50k. 33k is poverty tier in all metrics other than "median income" which doesn't mean shit. If everyone is poor than what does averaging the income matter?

no crying in the Trump casino suckers
you are here to be fleeced and ejected when you're broke.
any illusions you came in with about being in the club, are your own problem

>>509315172
It's just seething faggots. They are acting like a guy making a millionaire a year is jumping for joy over 6k.

>>509309073
>>509308838
This kind of obsession with defending Trump enters the faggotry levels. Instead of arguing OP's point about the changes to income tax after Zion Don's new bill, you start sperging out and go on a cope tangent about how no one would tell it to your 5'6 ass irl

btw I'm taller than you and would fuck you up

>>509314924
>Turns out that a tax-cut across the board is fucking retarded. Welcome to math,
yep, welcome to Trumpland

>>509315172
Because richfags should pay more while everyone else pays less. If the government wants to continue to deficit spend why would they cut percentages across the board instead of increasing slightly the taxes that the top wage earners pay and decreasing slightly the taxes that the bottom 25% pay? Poors already don't pay. At some point the percentages cease to matter when 10% of 100k is the difference between buying a car and 10% of 1mil is the difference between buying another beach house. Whats more important? Having the bottom 50% of earners able to engage in the economy as normal or rich fags not buying another private jet/yahct that sits?

>>509297916 (OP)

I dont understand liberal logic sometimes
>the rich control the means of production
>the rich create jobs
>tax breaks incentivize the rich to create more jobs
Let's be honest, the only reason you poors are so triggered by tax cuts for the rich is because you will never part of the wealthy elite class. All of this senseless noise is just generations of peasant discontent, manifesting in some of the laziest generations this country ever produced.

>>509315497
It's obvious as fuck that neither party represents anyone but the donor class and FEC vs Citizens united 2010 needs to be repealed.

>>509314924
Fuck you nigger. I wish they’d cut taxes by 20% across the board. I don’t care if you’re a poor faggot who’s only getting 100 bucks back because you’re poor. I want to pay less taxes.

>>509315655
>I dont understand liberal logic sometimes
>>the rich control the means of production
>>the rich create jobs
>>tax breaks incentivize the rich to create more jobs
>Let's be honest, the only reason you poors are so triggered by tax cuts
bullshit fallacy
tax cuts for the rich just create wall street speculation and bubbles
job creation is hard work and rich are lazy fucks who want to kick back and collect dividends
conservatards fall for this bullshit every single election
'tax cuts create jobs'
hahahahahahah
one wall street speculation bubble after another and they never catch on

>>509315655
>tax breaks incentivises rich people to create jobs
Here's where you're a fucking retard. Rich people don't create jobs because they have money. They create jobs when they are smart and want to innovate or have a great idea. Those people are called engineers or entrepreneurs. Rich people, largely, invest in trading money which is the opposite of creating jobs, especially, in the u.s. Which is why we have watched tax breaks for the rich for 40 years lead to out sourcing and a diminishing of the middle class. Let me know when an V.C decides to help an American innovate when their entire portfolio is predicated on foreign businesses deals, niggerbrains.

>>509310256
They aren't getting taxed more, they're getting tax cuts too, but they're losing government benefits too.

>>509298066
This nigga can't be for real. I knew /pol/ was full of dumbasses but god damn.

>>509297916 (OP)
So it benefits 60% of the population?

is the 'middle class' same as the 'working class'? do we even have a 'working class' anymore? or is it just the gibsmedat class and the igotminesofuckyou class?

>>509315733
I make ~125k/year, bitchtits. Enjoy your 2nd shift soul-crushing job you work 70hrs a week to break 80k maybe. Meanwhile I'm off the entire week making more than you. Why? Because I matter more than you.

>>509315950
>>509316047

I can literally walk down the road and pick up a job at the local krogers right now because Trump's tariffs have been so successful.
All that conspiracy bullshit you believe, thinking you're 'in the know', is exactly what makes you as backwards and retarded as the myopic confederates who thought slavery was going to last forever.

Stop being stupid.

>>509297916 (OP)
>better for the majority
Is that a bad thing? I'm in that Upper 20%. Pretty fucking happy to be honest. Getting what I voted for.

>>509316384
We dont get food from China. We definitely buy all of our seed from China which is where the u.s ag dept decided to put our seed banks, you fucking retard.

>>509315373
bæjsd

>>509316242
https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_968e581b-42e9-4762-8cf8-c11a7e8fcb51

grok says median household income 80k

>>509297916 (OP)

> you voted for this

Yes. I am in the top 20 percent and I pay way to fucking much in taxes. This is exactly what I voted for. It's nice for once to get what you voted for.

And let's be clear, in relative terms the tax relief is slight. A little bit less of my money is being taken to provide gibs to the plebs. Big fucking deal.

>>509316362
>Why? Because I matter more than you.
yep
sociopaths are overrepresented in the upper classes
we all know that
we see it every day in the news

>>509316384
This post doesn't even attempt to argue any point I made.
>the rich definitely create jobs so we should not tax them because I can get a grocery store job as a cart-wrangler or produce stocker part time to avoid the responsibility of said corporation from giving me a benefits package which will necessitate me going on Medicaid which this faggot ass bill will ensure I cant collect from because im not an immigrant, nigger, or single whore mother.
Congrats retard.

>>509316810

(you)

>>509316792
>125k/yr is upperclass
Lmao. Daycare for 1 kid is like 15k a year. I pay 35% in taxes. My property tax just went up another 10% and my homeowners insurance has tripled since 2020. You're real retarded, sir.

>>509297916 (OP)
just don't get sick and be American, are you all retarded or something lol

>>509297916 (OP)
Let's say we "fairly" tax everyone down to the exact cent. We extract whatever we want out of whoever we want, and they pay up no questions asked and make no attempt to circumvent even the most aggressive tax rate.
Then what? The government has more money to do what, exactly? The government has enough money to do whatever it wants to do, it just doesn't want to do it. The government is evil, billionaires are evil, what difference does it make in my life for the better if money is taken from one evil party that hates me and given to another evil party that hates me?

>>509316048
I suppose that would be nice if the rich didn't get so many things for free like land and public infrastructure.

>>509316925
>can't make an argument
Go to college, anon. You're not smart enough to mean a shit without a degree. I mean that with all positive intent.

>>509297916 (OP)
>>509297916 (OP)
Source ?

>>509297916 (OP)
I'm going to save about $17.00 per paycheck. Will that help me buy a house in an economy where the price doubles every 10 years?

>>509316703
Taxes for the bottom 75% should have been reduced while taxes for the top 25% should have been increased. Simple as. A flat tax reduction was retarded as hell.

what is the record on the 'Tax Cuts Create Jobs' dogma?
it is such a great selling point for the plutocrats to push their gibsmedat tax cuts for the rich
some goes into tax cuts
most goes into share buybacks and stock pumping
if there is no demand, there will be no job creation, there is no automatic incentive to create jobs,
when the rich get a windfall, the easiest thing to do is to hand it to their broker to play the market
creating jobs is hard work, and only worth it when the demand is so large the payback is obvious

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_fb7757eb-7388-4968-8db2-28696e44e6ba

>>509317092

>college educated
>even though college educated people are some of the stupidest people causing the biggest problems in society currently
lol ok

Here's why you are wrong. First, you wrote a run-on sentence and then have the nerve to criticize my intelligence. Second, you literally have no rebuttal to the fact that tax cuts do create jobs because you cannot refute that fact. Third, you're a nigger. Fourth, you're a faggot.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.

>>509314359
no mate, Asr isn’t until 17:56 today.

>>509316703
>And let's be clear, in relative terms the tax relief is slight. A little bit less of my money is being taken to provide gibs to the plebs. Big fucking deal.
yeah, big fucking deal 15 million lose health care and 100s of thousands die as a result, except in Alaska where they get an exemption, big fucking deal, I need a new truck,

>>509317463
It doesnt. It should but we live in a global economy. More money for the rich means more money they can throw around to other countries with slave labor. Why would a tax break for the rich be spent in the u.s when there is zero incentive to do so? They won't. They haven't. Money will be traded for other money and we will watch another countries infrastructure be built up while ours continues to crumble as it has for near 100 years. When our gdp is predicated on wall-street profits which are predicated on foreign trade what the fuck does it matter if big number go up.

>>509300270
Yeah fuck off Spanish nigger. I know in EUropoor lands the lowliest people pay a 30% tax, but in America the bottom 50% not only pay now taxes, but get benefits.

>>509316959
>>125k/yr is upperclass
>Lmao. Daycare for 1 kid is like 15k a year. I pay 35% in taxes. My property tax just went up another 10% and my homeowners insurance has tripled since 2020. You're real retarded, sir.
yes, granted, 125k household income is middle middle class, not upper class
you need more tax relief percetage wise than Bezos or Buffet

>>509316362
You’re a retarded larping nigger. I know this because if you actually made 125k then you’d know it’s nothing to even brag about these days.

>>509316996
>The government is evil, billionaires are evil, what difference does it make in my life for the better if money is taken from one evil party that hates me and given to another evil party that hates me?
yeah, as long as Israel owns us, our taxes are going to be wasted on middle east wars no matter what

>>509315185
bait or jew? flag makes it hard to tell

>>509316996
It isn't about the government having more money though anon. It is about how the rich don't follow the same rules
>Be CEO
>Have assets entire held in company which is taxed at lower rate than people
>Banks loan you based on this rate so your income is never taxed
>Government give you large swathes of land at low to no cost and create special tax-free zones
And that doesn't even take into account that the government doesn't do proper regulation anymore. Social media/tech companies should have been broken up under anti-trust decades ago. Crypto currency, gambling and grifting has essentially turned into the only form of money making. There are publicly listed companies out there right now who's entire business model involves getting loans to buy bitcoin.

The entire western economy now revolves around rentseeking because there is no regulation or innovation. The Reserve Bank could decide tomorrow that you can have a bank account with them and get a home loan at the cash rate. Home ownership would skyrocket and the worst parts of the banking system would crumble to dust. The west would almost return to its post war glory overnight.

>>509297916 (OP)
child like typing

>>509297916 (OP)
Im in the middle so fuck bottom niggers

>>509298066
>Tax break so small that they might not even notice a difference.
TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMY!

>>509317558
Some of the dumbest people are college educated? All of the dumbest people can't pass a college entrance exam, anon. All of them. Some of the smartest people have college education too. Some of the dumbest people have also touched a mitre saw so I guess you should avoid them. Some of the smartest people turned out to be meth-heads so I guess smoking meth is ok.
If you can't see the inherent value of an education than you're just coping.

>>509297916 (OP)
>no tax on tips for sure helps the rich

Who believes this garbage

>>509317912
No shit retard. I'm not bragging. I'm saying it's hard to live on 125k a year which is why I'm not sitting here saying "this bill fucking rules man. Fuck poorfags". Is reading comprehension not a required thing in school these days, zoomie?

stupid niggers/

>>509297916 (OP)
>be top 20%
>some poorfag on 4chins seethes
haha got what i voted for. rent's due, btw.

>>509318300

>All of the dumbest people can't pass a college entrance exam, anon. All of them.
Yet they produce the food you eat, built the house you sleep in, and provide you with all the amenities you need while you sit in your little ivory tower judging them because you're some pink skin that was lucky enough to be born to rich parents.

Kill yourself nigger, you are without a doubt the cancer that is destroying this world. Don't even bother looking for Jesus, just bathe in gasoline and light the match.
Do it for your parents. Do it for the cashier. Do it for your grandparents, your children, your partner. It's not for you, it's for everyone else. And please, maintain a six foot distance while you do it.
Together, we can eradicate this disease.

>>509318561
The problem is you will be able to afford another dragon dildo while richfags will just buy up more property and import more foreigners.
The billions lost in revenue will be amiliorated from social safety nets we all use while property taxes (and other taxes) will rise to make up the short-fall.

>>509297916 (OP)
Chad non-voter who is getting more and more allergic to this gay shit by the day here. Am I reading that right? They went after......themselves to own the left????? That CAN'T be real......or hahhaahhahahahahhahahahahaaaaa! What a bunch of dumb shitz. They are like women talk about how high IQ they are then fall for.....I would rather a woman BE smart than tell me how smart she is because just like these redcoats...um? HATS, there are just some things you cannot hide at all. Are they still all addict to porn of men in dresses? I gave up after that weirdo shit blasted in my face. My kids used to get online now I block anywhere these MAGA people upload that he-she shit

>>509318782
>and import more foreigners.
Gotta make sure to not vote Democrat then to not make that happen

>>509318782
Property taxes? Oh no! I'll just have to raise your rent another 10%. Sounds like a whole lot of not my problem. Find another duplex if you don't like it, Cleetus.

>>509318725
Farmers go to college these days, you stupid nigger. You have no idea what you're talking about. You think farmers aren't sending their kids to school? You think this is the 1800s? Do you think servicing modern equipment is something your 60 year old uncle teaches you? Farmers just figured out "no-til" or how to calculate drainage? Every farmer i know I has a bachelor's degree in ag or a diesel tech degree his dad or grandpa paid for because the industry has gotten fucking crazy.

>>509316362
>Why? Because I matter more than you.
You have over 30 posts in a single 4chan thread. You spend your entire day here. The only thing that matters is your over inflated ego.

>>509318884
I own over 1000 acres, fag. You are probably on your parents insurance.

thanks for the tax cuts poorfags lmao

>>509297916 (OP)

A chud sees a Jew sucking Bloody Baby Cock and sends his chudlets to die for Israel to make Jewsus happy. A libtard commie asks for sloppy seconds.

>>509318725
I'm going to give you a piece of advice. When you think youre being left in the dust it's because you are. You rely too much on your intuition which has been gutted leaving you thinking time spent investing in yourself is "gay". When it all shakes out and you still feel unfilled remember that you did it to yourself because you thought you were better and smarter than thousands of years of cumulative knowledge your people amassed in favor of your crippled and brainwashed perspective on what is "gay" and "based".
It's all right there waiting for you.

>>509319060
>ego is bad and interaction with the board is cringe
Lel. Zoomers are completely disengaged from reality. I've got the day off and am drinking beer swimming. I have a fount of experience and enjoy countering the zoomer faggotry that has consumed this board. Lurk moar. I'll be here all day.

>>509297916 (OP)
Why are left troons OBSESSED with taxes?
They think taxes will solve all their fucking problems, it's horrible.
Tax the business owners until there's only Walmart left.
Tax the wealthy so everyone decent leaves
Give ALL your taxes to the hole that is the poor, the criminals, the retarded, the homeless, the bottom quintile.

Leftist yards will cry about taxing more rich people but they then want those taxes to go towards pride parade floats

>>509320044
>>ego is bad and interaction with the board is cringe
>Lel. Zoomers are completely disengaged from reality. I've got the day off and am drinking beer swimming. I have a fount of experience and enjoy countering the zoomer faggotry that has consumed this board. Lurk moar. I'll be here all day.
cool, haha, see you in the next thread!

miga