Thread 509327063

Aren't White Americans mostly just a mix of Celtic and Germanic?

Other options for the mutts: Celto-Germanic, Anglo-Celtic , Anglo-Norse, Nordic-Germanic, Norse-Gael, Italo-Celtic Italo-Celtic.

"White" is why we are in the mess we're are in! This word has taken on religious connotations and has evolved into some secularized stand-in for universalized "christendom", where even the lowest scum is equal to the higher castes. Even the lowest leftist can self-identify as white and then take ownership of white, and all those they label white. They become the universal spokespersons and representatives of "all the whites" (including Europeans) to the ethnics, the judge of the behavior of other whites relative to their socially constructed commandments of white, and they can militate against white to signal their piety.

So, only identity with your ethnic sub-type and sue anyone who labels you white. Then if you ever apply to college or for a job and are forced to identify as white instead of your ethnic sub-type, sue them! In a time when people are being imprisoned and sued for misgendering someone or not using the correct pronouns, this is something that every ethnic European should pursue!

Note that even low IQ blacks know how dangerous universal identities are:

https://officialfba.com/

They don't even allow Africans or non-amerimutt blacks to speak on their behalf/claim universal representation.

Delineation and atomization is how we save our race!

Even delineate further: "Foundational European american" or something similar to cut Europeans in general out from taking ownership of European americans.

Starting tomorrow I am going to self-identify with the color yellow, then label every Asian person yellow, regardless of what they think about this, because I said all Asians are "fellow yellow people". I will then go stand in-front of groups of other races to give them insider secrets on yellow, and tell them how horrible we yellow people are. I will then go police the behavior of other yellow people. For example, if I see a Japanese man try to take pride in his Japanese heritage without consulting with me first then I will sanction him: "As a fellow yellow person, shame on you!". "As a fellow yellow person, how dare you!". "As a fellow yellow person, let me tell you how European history is superior to 'our' yellow history!"

The mutts do this unironically.

The mutts self-identify with the color white and not only think this allows them to claim Europe, but allows then to take ownership of all those they label white, which includes every European subtype.

Not having a caste system like the jeets have is why we are in the mess we're in.

So start saying "I'm English, Italian, Russian, etc etc not white!" "We are not the same" and this system becomes deconstructed!

>>509327063 (OP)
short answer why is that nonwhites do not care about, or know how to distinguish between, the various european ethnicities and larger groups like nordics, celtics, etc. but ideally nobody should be identifying as american (or canadian) because it's a fake ethnicity. not even "native american" really means anything because there were many different tribes. identifying as white gets you absolutely nothing, and that's why white nationalism always fails. whites have no homeland because "europe" is not a single country. we need an international movement of diaspora europeans. let american and all other new world identities die, unless maybe you have indigenous ancestry like the peruvians.

There's no such thing as a unified white race, there's only aryan europeans.

There's nordic europeans, the original britons, mixed anglo saxons, croatians, hungarians, poles, italians, etc etc.

Whether you want to consider them mixed or not is your choice if you only think nordics with blonde hair, the palest skin and blue eyes are "white".

This man is just as european as any other european. His genes have been here for centuries. He's not mixed at all, yet someone will call him swarthy or non european.

>>509327063 (OP)
rather than be white nationalists, european diaspora in the new world should be trying to ingratiate themselves to their ancestral lands. irish americans should not be concerned with the failed ideology of white nationalism but they should be concerned with the plastic paddy phenomenon. we need to get ethnic again and think of ourselves as satellite representatives of the mother/father land wherever that is in europe. but the downside of this is that if whites do this, then they have NO right to complain about browns doing the same like the chicano/la raza movement. america should be as hyper ethnic as possible so that everyone finally realizes that this country exists solely to make money on for the purposes of either eventually repatriating to wherever we came from or to send remittances directly or indirectly (german americans should be buying german cars).

>>509327207
>Not having a caste system like the jeets have is why we are in the mess we're in.
well we sort of did have a caste system before ww2 and to some degree before hart-celler. but we don't anymore because the anglo establishment rightfully sees noneuropeans as bigger threats to the survival of the USA compared to meds or slavs. but meds and slavs should remember that if all the nonwhites left the USA tomorrow then we would be the new negroes. we are tolerated as of now but we are not guaranteed anything.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. It revisits the public debate on the second great immigration, around the turn of the last century. There was at one time a vociferous debate about allowing southern and eastern Europeans into the US. Obviously, the good guys lost.
Rather than calling us northern and western European, though, Celto-Germanic more accurately describes legacy Americans. It is the Celtic and Germanic folk of northern and Western Europe who created the great civilizations. Ancient Greece, not withstanding.
If Celto-Germanic Americans were to self identify as such, create a true ethnostate based on what America was up until about 100 years ago, and reassert our identity in a self-conscious way, we would finally fulfill the indomitable potential that the Europeans feared in early America.
Reconquista. Deus vult.

>>509327814
> croatians, hungarians, poles, italians
Nah

>>509328294
> the anglo establishment rightfully sees noneuropeans as bigger threats to the survival of the USA compared to meds or slavs
Then why did they invite them in by the millions?

>>509327207
>The mutts self-identify with the color white and not only think this allows them to claim Europe, but allows then to take ownership of all those they label white, which includes every European subtype.
and this explains why leftists say stuff like white people have no culture. technically they are right. white people have cultures, not a single culture. but white nationalism is really an expression of not just antiwhite sentiment by nonwhites but just as much of the fact that so many whites are disconnected from their european homelands. and being a white nationalist almost certainly will not resolve that problem.

>>509328392
Is this amish man's phenotype "white" then. According to /pol/ not despite being 100% european because he doesnt have blonde hair blue eyes.

Memeflag = OP is a turd worlder

>>509328586
>Then why did they invite them in by the millions?
i'm med, not anglo. i honestly do not know but maybe it's because anglos are not good at manual labor as that would explain why they brought in cheaper african slaves instead of just relied on irish indentured servants. ultimately the anglos wanted the USA to be a superpower and they sacrificed ethnic identity in order to achieve that.

>>509328333
It is unnecessary, as for all of American history, Americans were Anglo-American, as opposed to native-American and Spanish-American.

>>509328837
Disingenuous strawman argument. Many Celtic and Germanic Europeans have brown hair and a good number have brown eyes.
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>509327063 (OP)
Never heard of CAUCASIAN?

>>509328982
Then by that metric john oliver has to be just as european as any other european in europe.

>>509328333
if you want that to happen then use burger influence to get the european nations to repatriate slavs and meds. it's not impossible because the USA already pushes the EU towards globohomo and zionism.

>>509327063 (OP)
the "white" term is actually a way to destroy people's culture and identity.
German, Italian and French cultures are completely different from one another but faggots just group all of them as "white" do destory their individuality.

>>509328960
That’s not exactly right. Early colonial powers included French and Spanish as well. Genetically, French and especially Spanish left less of an imprint, but, particularly following the revolutions of 1848, many Germans settled in America. They are ethnically and culturally more similar to the Anglo Americans you described, and for those reasons they were and should be allowed to settle here.

>>509329020
>Never heard of CAUCASIAN?
that includes MENA for some reason. no reason that sharia law people should share the same category as europeans.

>>509329109
I don’t know his full ethnic background, but assuming he is descended from Britons, yes, he is.

>>509329129
> get the european nations to repatriate slavs and meds
Inshallah

Actually most germans have brown hair and brown eyes (only in the very north not).

>>509328837
Did uh, were Germans and jeets really in contact back in prehistoric time? This man's physiognomy made me realize that swarthy Europeans, especially the Germanic types, often look quite jeetish. Come to think of it, the jeet accent really does sound a bit like a bad parody of a German accent...

>>509327063 (OP)
>manifesto

>>509328928
The person you're replying to is a fucking retard. The push for mass migration was by a Judeo-Catholic alliance, from the 1965 Immigration Act, Reagans (real name O'Regan) amnesty, and the 1990 H1-b visa which Ted Kennedy sponsored.

As far as indentured servants go, the vast majority were English, and at a much worse period in time with sub-tropical disease deaths and native Indian attacks. The Irish arrive nearly 2 centuries later to build some of the railroad and talk of themselves like they built America.
The only issue with America is precisely the issue the 1924 Immigration Act was created by Anglos, because other Europeans were importing their shit backward cucked ideas, as you can see with the civil rights movement, it was entirely non-Anglo whites at every level.

Notice, this Trump government has more Anglos than any other group, by far, and the most Anglos in any government in this period of mass migration. And everything is getting reversed, as when it comes down to it, it is always Anglos that preserve America.

>>509329282
and mr bean, row atkins is just as european. It's the same phenotype

>>509327063 (OP)
>>509327114
>>509327207
kys memeflaggot

>>509329194
I just mentioned Spanish-American and you're repeating it back to me as if I didn't say it. Spanish and French were rival colonies that were either defeated, bought out or absorbed and merged into Anglo America, as you can see with the Texas Revolution, it is literally called Anglo-American by everyone, yet also had some others that were absorbed into the same culture - even if Anglo just means Anglophone, it still described America as it is.
There is no other group.

>>509327063 (OP)
pure celto-germanic phenotype

Germans are the only ones allowed to race mix. They seem to be the only Aryan gene pool capable of truly bleaching lesser races and improving the end products genetics. Every beautiful she mutt I've ever met was Germanic in ancestry, mixed with whatever brown. Think about that ugly Zendaya bitch: she's a complete half fucking Kenyan and half German, and I'd hit that, even though it's a 2nd generation African import mutt still would.

>>509329757
>The person you're replying to is a fucking retard. The push for mass migration was by a Judeo-Catholic alliance, from the 1965 Immigration Act, Reagans (real name O'Regan) amnesty, and the 1990 H1-b visa which Ted Kennedy sponsored.
true but the anglos still let in jews and irish. they chose to do that. nobody forced them.
>The only issue with America is precisely the issue the 1924 Immigration Act was created by Anglos, because other Europeans were importing their shit backward cucked ideas, as you can see with the civil rights movement, it was entirely non-Anglo whites at every level.
yes so basically white nationalism is morally bankrupt because even within white ethnic groups there can be significant differences and clashes of values.
>it is always Anglos that preserve America.
agreed. ironically the anglos don't have to worry about learning a foreign language to go back to europe but why would they go back when they laid the foundations of american civilization? immigrants will never preserve the USA, the smart ones should wish to go back to europe but that does require some cooperation from the respective governments of their homelands.

>>509329404
Hindi and German are both part of the Indo-European language family. Thousands of years ago, there was a tribe of people that spoke a common Indo-European language and then one group split off toward India and another toward Germany and others toward other areas and the languages were bastardized enough over thousands of years that they are unintelligible but have some similarities. So Germans and Hindus didn't interact, they descend from the same people. Interestingly, the people in the southern part of India speak languages that are from a completely different language family. So Germans and North Indians are more closely related than people from North and South India are to each other. India should be multiple countries and not just one giant abomination.

>>509327063 (OP)
GalloGermanoSlavic covers most of it except for the Sards, Laps, somewhat the Basque maybe a few others

>>509327063 (OP)
Why do you spend your time asking stupid fucking question online

>>509330381
Tragic, but Kino

>>509330186
Get the fuck out of here with your anglo dominance bullshit. Anglos are pussies who can't handle the cold. Everything west of Chicago and north of St. Louis was settled by Germanic, Nordic and Polish settlers which is why the Mid-West is the only decent place in America and not an anglo amerimutt malaise. The only exception is the coastal areas in the West Coast, anglos like the coasts and that's why San Francisco, Seattle and Portland suck cock.

>>509327063 (OP)

I’m just white. People don’t choose their identities. Our identities are products of our existence in society. I am not Celtic-Germanic or Aryan or European-American or any of this weird bullshit.

I’m just white.

>>509330401
Basque is a language isolate and the Uralic language family are the only other languages in Europe that are not part of the Indo-European language family. The Basques, Finnish, Hungarians and Estonians are believed to be the oldest continually living communities in Europe that were not pushed out or absorbed by the Indo-European groups that came into Europe.

>>509330931
do you speak white?
do you enjoy going to white restaurants?
have you ever been to white (the country)?

>>509330366
There were colonial era Jews, many weren't that bad, and even supported nativism. Then Russian Jews landed, and that is why the 1924 Immigration Act was created to restrict them more than anyone.

>>509330788
You're a fucking idiot. The entire expanse of America was conquered, settled and built by Anglos and every state was founded by Anglos. There are Nordics in the upper Midwest because they were invited there by Anglos. Every fucking state was majority Anglo, laid out, named, governed. There were not even foreign governors for most states until about 100 years ago. It was all Anglo. Nearly all the frontiermen were Anglos, and the Lewis Clark expedition, and the 300 Families of Texas. You think Anglos take over most of the world but somehow just decided to stay on the East Coast of America...go and read any book on the expansion of America. It was Mormon, Methodist and Baptist, and for most of it is was an expansion of Virginia and Carolinas as Davi Hackett Fischer's Bound Away book shows.

Go and look up county names anywhere in America - every county was surveyed and laid out and named by Anglos. Look at the map of religions and you can clearly see the map where Methodists moved directly through the middle of America.

>>509330931
You are an ignorant Amerimutt who knows nothing about his history and created a term based on skin color to steal all of Europe's heritage. I would understand identifying with the city or region you were raised in, but claiming the entirety of North America as your identity speaks volumes of the stupidity of the Anglo Amerimutt.

>>509331291
Much like today, all the money for American expansion came from Jews. The Jews were the puppetmasters and the Anglos did their bidding like a good little golem. Jews and their corporations own most of the land in America. America expanded because Jews wanted more money. Now go be a good little Anglo golem and arrest rappers for saying "Israel is bad" and get in line to suck of Israel as is common practice with your people.

>>509331378
We mutts come from a bad place, broken people all the way back for most. It stands to reason that the "white" one's here make no effort to trace their genealogy, even though the Mormons already did it all for us and offer it for free KEK

>>509331378
You have it entirely backwards. By everyone being called white in America it neutralises the playing field and gives credit to the non-Anglos that did minimal-to-nothing to conquer America, yet gives them equal status for being ethnically European. It is charitable af, and that is how assimilation happens.

>>509331081

Bizarre questions which….prove what exactly?

Ever been to the country Kurdistan? Nobody has because no such country exists but does that mean Kurds don’t exist? Most Irish people can’t speak Irish, so what they don’t exist?

These questions are tiresome because they are meaningless. They have nothing to do with the lived reality of millions of white Americans who live as white Americans every single.

>>509331706
Pure cope. The colonisation of America was difficult af and it only happened because of the Puritan spirit of embracing hard work and poverty. There was no Jewish money tree giving people free shit. Think how dumb and coping you are to hold the opinion that jews are money merchants that are screwing everyone but somehow they are charitable to Anglos for expansion.

>>509331746

Because it isn’t real. Your ancestors may have come from Ireland and Germany but you aren’t Irish or German. You are and live and have lived your entire life as a white American. That’s how you have been socialized your entire life. That is how everyone else sees you and how you see yourself. Because that is who you actually are.

Pretending otherwise is a LARP.

>>509332026
>Bizarre questions which….prove what exactly?
that white is not a real ethnicity and that you are harming yourself by denying your right to be part of an ethnic culture. identifying as white nowadays grants you absolutely nothing. white also pretends that the history of ethnicity began in 1776.
>Ever been to the country Kurdistan? Nobody has because no such country exists but does that mean Kurds don’t exist?
the kurds are ONE people, whites are not.
>Most Irish people can’t speak Irish, so what they don’t exist?
irish is a language which is my point. white is not.
>They have nothing to do with the lived reality of millions of white Americans who live as white Americans every single.
the best way to be cured of white nationalism is to consider this question: is it good that poles are moving to the UK and finding work that displaces englishmen (and the british more broadly)? let's assume reasonably that poles and englishmen are equally white. who is in the right here, the polish immigrants or the english nationalists?

>>509332272
They'll never understand Anon, they're not Anglo. They'll never know the true punishments of good deeds, and the forgiveness of constant and surmounting betrayal.

Anglo-America:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZpbYtZ5La8U

>>509332346
>Pretending otherwise is a LARP.
betterto pretend to be something that is real than identify as a category that systematically disenfranchises you.

>>509327063 (OP)
Because those kind of distinctions really only matter in Europe where Whites are the supermajority (for now) and the granular differences matter. In the US it's basically European Americans, Whites, versus the brown horde. When your enemy is a dark brown mongrel it doesn't really matter which shade of White you are.

>>509332346
I know that, it's been the way I viewed life for most of my life. I still found the tracing of genealogy to be an enjoyable experience that can be quite useful when dealing with old worlders though.

>>509332593
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZpbYtZ5La8U
he's right but if he thinks wops will be accepted as true anglos if all the nonwhites are gone then he is a retard. he can be as much of an anglophile as he wants but he will never be anglo.

>>509332713
if the brown horde ever leaves OR if racial segregation returns then the ethnic question will return to prominence. there will always have to be an underclass of undesirables even if they are white.

>>509331378

He's just brown. In muttland spics, jews, middle easterners, and other mystery meat identify as "white" (more reason to delineate). This is how nu-pol turned 95% brown.

>>509332272
>charitable to Anglos for expansion

They are the ones that own the majority of the land and the wealth of America. Amerimutts are just a Golem who are given crumbs and a pat on the head to keep them happy.

>>509332539

> the kurds are ONE people, whites are not.

White Americans are more of a people than Kurds. We have a common language and culture (they don’t)

> irish is a language which is my point. white is not.

They speak English in Ireland not Irish despite attempts by their government to artificially resurrect the language. You don’t need your own unique language that nobody else has to be considered a people. White Americans speak English, we have a unified language we all speak. But you also don’t even need a unified language to be considered a people. Although it is changing recently due to government pressure there are still millions of Chinese people who don’t know how to speak Chinese.

This whole argument is silly. People =/= language.

>is it good that poles are moving to the UK and finding work that displaces englishmen

Yeah I don’t live in the UK so it’s a totally unrelated thing. That’s for British nationalists to figure out. Nothing to do with me or any American.

>>509333068
Think of what a Kindness racial segregation was. Imagine if any of the pre WW1 European nations had a freed slave problem. They would have done a massive deportation, but more likely an actual holocaust on the unwanted population, like maybe should have been done here.

>>509332713
You will never be European, Amerimutt. And we will never be "brothers" or "the same". Learn about your actual ancestors and embrace being poor white anglo scum instead of trying to group as all with your white brotherhood bullshit. You and your fat fuck president think you can bully us around and then pretend we're friends and have common goals. Go to hell.

>>509332638

Again this is real life not a MMORPG.

There is no player select screen where you get to choose what you want to identify.

Yore white because you were born white whether you like it or not.

https://youtu.be/kkwB76o-3Go?si=7WnbnvQQr04WCWMB

>>509333912
>People =/= language.
i never said language alone makes an ethnic group.
>Yeah I don’t live in the UK so it’s a totally unrelated thing. That’s for British nationalists to figure out. Nothing to do with me or any American.
evasion. if you're just "white" then british nationalism is equal to polish nationalism. the answer obviously depends on whether you're asking a brit or a pole because white nationalism is not real. white nationalists will say stuff like no more brother wars. when has europe NOT had brother wars? even post ww2 there's the troubles in northern ireland, the balkan conflicts, now russia versus ukraine. nationalism is very real as long as an ethnic group isn't diluted to meaninglessness as white people are.

>>509327063 (OP)
Because people of NA have jewish genes. You can see it in their weird looking faces.

>>509334306
>Yore white because you were born white whether you like it or not.
and being born white means absolutely nothing culturally speaking. so i reject the meaningless label. white just means neither black nor asian or native american nor hispanic, as if all people who are not in those ethnic groups are all equal when they are not equal linguistically, culturally, religiously, physically, etc.
>>509334306
>https://youtu.be/kkwB76o-3Go?si=7WnbnvQQr04WCWMB
i actually addressed this issue here >>509327610
stop being defined by those who hate your guts. and as i said, if all the nonwhites left there would be no white ethnostate. somebody has to be on the bottom. do you really think the white ethnostate would be based on something like a meritocracy? that's an anglo notion that meds don't believe in.

>>509334414

Not an evasion. It is just not relevant to our lived experience as Americans.

If Polish nationalists want to keep Poland Polish or British Nationalists want to keep Britain British (whatever “British” even means….English? Irish? Scottish? Welsh?) that is their prerogative. That simply isn’t a real thing in America.

> nationalism is very real as long as an ethnic group isn't diluted to meaninglessness as white people are.

Maybe that’s true in Europe ((although I’d love to know why you think white is a diluted and meaningless identity but a bunch of Frisians, Bavarians and Prussians making up a fake collective identity and calling themselves “Germans” is hecking real and valid)) but we don’t live in Europe and we aren’t Europeans. We are white Americans who live in America.

>>509327063 (OP)
How about we just call Caucasian people Caucasian

>>509328333
>Celto-Germanic more accurately describes legacy Americans

No such thing. You are either Celtic or Germanic. Celto-Germanic is just another flavor of amerimutt. KYS

>>509327610
>fake ethnicity

(White) Americans are an identifiable group that has a common language, culture (with regional variations,) history, and identifies itself as a group. What more is needed? Saying we aren't a people is just muddying the waters by people who want anyone to be able to be "American."

>>509327063 (OP)
Because hyphenated Americans are gay.

When your white you don't need to call yourself anything. Do not idolize false whites.

>>509327063 (OP)
>>509327114
>>509327207
>there's no such thing as Americans
>just try to identify by your distant European ancestors even though they're as different from you as they are from other types of European
>if you're of mixed European heritage like almost all Americans are now you can just try to be all of them
>or just pick one
>but whatever you do don't act with unity against anyone else

D&C or extreme retard.

>>509335538
>What more is needed?
a homeland that we are indigenous to for starters

>>509335811
America. Next?

>>509335538
>Saying we aren't a people is just muddying the waters by people who want anyone to be able to be "American."
no i am saying that nobody should identify as american. if you are old stock american then identify as anglo. you have more in common with anglos in australia than you do with greek-americans.

>>509335929
whites are not indigenous to america retard.

>>509334707

> stop being defined by those who hate your guts.

You live in a world with other people and your identity is product of your interactions with other people.

Things are only wet because other things are dry.

In 1510 Martin Luther travelled to Italy. He had lived in Germany his entire life. Everybody he knew was German. But for the first time in his life he suddenly realized that he was a German and it was because he was in Italy around a bunch of Italians.

White people have existed since the day we encountered nonwhite people.

>>509327063 (OP)
>White Americans
That is an oxymoron. Mutts and Slavs are not white culturally. Celts and Germans have never popularised LGBTQAUSD, goyslop, nations of immigrants, obesity, inclusion and diversity, degeneracy and the list of this American shit goes on and on. Nah. Mutts and Slavs aren't white culturally, we are different from the genuine certified whites in the Western Europe.

>>509336123
Americans conquered America, settled it, and made it our own. It is ours now. Those of us who are born here are indigenous to America is the territory of the United States. This is how this was understood before the 1960s.

>>509336073
See >>509335763

>>509336337
*America, ie. the territory of the United States.

>>509336194
>You live in a world with other people and your identity is product of your interactions with other people.
cool you can interact with your own people quite easily. it's never been easier to learn your ancestral language.
>In 1510 Martin Luther travelled to Italy. He had lived in Germany his entire life. Everybody he knew was German. But for the first time in his life he suddenly realized that he was a German and it was because he was in Italy around a bunch of Italians.
why are you using an example featuring identifiable ethnic groups with identifiable borders? what does that have to do with "whiteness"? like yes clearly ethnicities understand themselves to be such on the basis of encountering foreigners. but that alone isn't enough for a culture. is napoleon a hero or a tyrant? he's unquestionably white so how you do answer that question? by contributing what either the anglos or the french or the russians think about him.

>>509327063 (OP)
>Why don't White Americans just call themselves Celto-Germanic instead of White?
because you don't get to decide what your enemies call you. Got to prison, start talking that nonsense see how far it gets you with the other races

>>509327063 (OP)
>>509327114
>>509327207
The notion that Whites (European Christians) are a shared people with a shared destiny dates as far back as the 11th century. This is a divide and conquer kike shill thread because they hate that we're cooperating to revive civilization.

>>509329404
>Did uh, were

>>509336337
>Americans conquered America, settled it, and
made it our own. It is ours now. Those of us who are born here are indigenous to America is the territory of the United States. This is how this was understood before the 1960s.
that is not what indigenous means. indigenous means people have lived in the same space since before recorded history. if whites were indigenous to america then myths would say that the mayflower sailed from the heavens, not from plymouth. also by that definition any person born here on US soil is automatically american and this is precisely why american is another meaningless term compared to anglo or french for example.

>>509336337
blacks and browns conquered today's amurricuh
you can't even get a text back, let alone breed
inbred goof

>>509336478
>why are you using an example featuring identifiable ethnic groups with identifiable borders?
Ethnic groups don't have identifiable borders that's why Martin Luther was still a German in Italy.

>>509327063 (OP)
>>509327114
>>509327207
This is jewish nonsense to stop White solidarity

>>509329158

Your argument is valid on its face. But our race needs a cause to unite it. Being White is a lot better and more constructive than being anti-White.

>>509336864
>But our race needs a cause to unite it.
what cause are you going to have for 900 million people? and how is that cause going to be substantially different than any other racial cause?

>>509335374

Because not all Caucasians are pure enough to be considered a genetically pure White person.

First of all, because Italian-Americans are not Celtic. We also have plenty of “white” Poles. Second, because Celtic-Germanic don’t refer to nationality or culture so they’re meaningless to us.

We are actually broadly the descendants of Western Europeans. “White” is pretty much synonymous with Western European in America.

>>509337000
Why should it be different from other racial causes? Retard

>>509336864

> Your argument is valid on its face.

It’s really not if you just think about it for 5 seconds.

>the "German" term is actually a way to destroy people's culture and identity.
Frisian, Bavarian and Prussian cultures are completely different from one another but faggots just group all of them as "German" do destory their individuality.

>>509337090
because two ethnic groups of the same race could have different designs on a given piece of land like with the russia ukraine conflict. who should white people root for exactly?

>>509336694
Are you being obtuse on purpose or are you just retarded? "You haven't been here as far back as archaeology can show therefore you don't have a right to a homeland" is the position of our people's enemies because no group can meet that standard. We came into this land more recently than most but what does that have to do with anything? Also go read about the Founders and try to figure out if they thought random niggers who might wander in can be just as American as we are lmao

>>509336752
You're shitposting but they literally do think this. They won't have this type of confusion, because they're too stupid to understand the sophistry if nothing else.

>>509337000

A return to our leader Enlil Yahweh's laws and commandments which keep us united as one!

>>509337205
Yeah just like other groups do around the world, but they have an acknowledgement that they are racial brothers and, in all cases, should unite against threats to that race by other races. No more brother wars, newfag

>>509337281
He's just retarded

>>509327063 (OP)
anon, the germanic americans are a tiny minority. 95% of white americans will tell you they are actually part italian or something else

>>509337281
>no group can meet that standard.
just because burgers can't doesn't mean that europeans can't. the first structures here were not built by european people and it matters not at all that they were less impressive than colonial plantations or skyscrapers. indigenous identity has nothing to do with comparing one culture to another in any unobjective way beyond establishing who was here first.

I am Celto-Germanic and "white" simply means pale European in the USA. I'm a sun-tanned Southern redneck with a big bushy beard and Yankees up North have mistaken me as Persian.

>>509337313
>No more brother wars, newfag
cool ideology but too bad it failed to stop the protestant troubles in the UK, the balkan conflict, and this current russia ukraine war. when will no more brother wars actually work? 2 more weeks?

>>509336694
>indigenous means people have lived in the same space since before recorded history.
No it doesn't.
If you want to be a pedant, indigenous means a politically marginalized precolonial ethnic group that considers themselves distinct from the prevailing colonial culture. That's why leftists mock you when you claim to be an indigenous European, they have crafted the definition of the word specifically to exclude you.

The overarching point though, is that there is no actual definition of indigenous and there is no reason why a White person cannot claim to be indigenous to the United States beyond the ridiculous impulse to acquiesce to leftist political impulses. We no longer live in an age where people can appeal to misty ancestral cosmologies to claim connection to the soil, we can do trace gene flows across time and space and no one is indigenous to anywhere, so why can't a White lay claim to the New World after his ancestors have spent the last five hundred some odd years building a blood and soil connection to it? Everyone started somewhere. Niggers feel no shame claiming they built England despite only arriving in the fifties, I think building a few hundred years of civilization in the New World has to count for something.

>>509337562
My ancestry is just European. Scots from Northern England and Germans from Northern Germany. I am a Shia Muslim but that is my religion and is not an ethnicity.

>>509327063 (OP)
White Pride World Wide!

why is he putting the gun in a vulnerable place? does he have small cock and balls that there is no harm done?

>>509337630
>That's why leftists mock you when you claim to be an indigenous European, they have crafted the definition of the word specifically to exclude you.
wrong retard i said DIASPORA >>509327610
learn to read stupid faggot
>The overarching point though, is that there is no actual definition of indigenous and there is no reason why a White person cannot claim to be indigenous to the United States beyond the ridiculous impulse to acquiesce to leftist political impulses.
it's quite simple actually. you can't be indigenous to two completely different parts of the planet. the anglo founders of the american country were indigenous to the british isles. leftists happen to be right about this. they aren't always wrong.
>no one is indigenous to anywhere, so why can't a White lay claim to the New World after his ancestors have spent the last five hundred some odd years building a blood and soil connection to it?
there are peoples who have inhabited the same place since before recorded history aka they are indigenous. sorry that burgers aren't in that category but you want to move the goalposts purely out of convenience.
>Niggers feel no shame claiming they built England despite only arriving in the fifties,
such a claim should not be taken seriously

>>509337483

> just because burgers can't doesn't mean that europeans can't.

The Anglo-Saxons arrived in the UK in the mid 400s. Certainly not before recorded history. So they are not indigenous to England. Nobody can identify as “Anglo”, it’s not considered a real thing either?

>>509338051
>Nobody can identify as “Anglo”, it’s not considered a real thing either?
the descendents of the ancient britons today in the UK still identify as anglo though

>>509327063 (OP)
Americans are niggers who LARP as Germanics. Poorly. Listen to their "music". It's all hoo hoo hoo and waa waa waa and yea yea yea. Literal nigger howls. Underlined by bingo bongo drums.

>>509327063 (OP)
It is simply European-American. We used to say "Euro-American" back in the 1970s. For short, we call ourselves "Euggers".

>>509337980
> you can't be indigenous to two completely different parts of the planet.
Of course you can,that's why Polynesians can be considered indigenous people on multiple islands separated by thousands of miles of ocean. Imagine three thousand years have passed, Whites exist in large numbers on both sides of the Atlantic. Are you seriously going to try and argue with a straight face that Whites are not indigenous to both North America and Europe?

>such a claim should not be taken seriously
Yet it is, because they have the balls to make it without backing down, while you want to passively turn over everything your ancestors fought for because, well just because!

>>509329757
You sided with communists and jews in WW2 over European nationalists, no amount of LARPing can ever cover up this treachery, it’s why everyone in Europe laughs at you getting conquered by pakis, now fuck off and suck some kike cock

>>509327063 (OP)
Aren't White Americans mostly just a mix of Celtic and Germanic? NOPE, mostly a mix of MONGS and SPASTICS...

>>509327063 (OP)
Americans are mutted garbage, truly subhuman

>>509338756
>Of course you can,that's why Polynesians can be considered indigenous people on multiple islands separated by thousands of miles of ocean.
if they were the first people to live in both places then yes they can. were the anglos the first people to live in virginia or massachusetts? the anglos theoretically are indigenous only to the british isles and bermuda because apparently nobody lived in the latter until the 1500s. again the point isn't whether the native americas were superior or inferior to the anglos, they were there first before recorded history unlike the anglos.
>>509338756
>Yet it is, because they have the balls to make it without backing down, while you want to passively turn over everything your ancestors fought for because, well just because!
i want to give up america because we are all from europe and europe and her nations must be preserved at all costs. we do not have the resources or the moral argument to justify fighting on two fronts, the old and the new worlds. our chances are better, and our reasoning is more sound, in the old world.

>>509338762
They would laugh because, like the Irish, they are failures as people that need to hope Anglos fail as they have no history or achievements equal to our people. But as for WW2, knock yourself out:

https://t.me/exposinghitler

https://t.me/redideologies

>>509327063 (OP)
But I am Anglo-Celtic, and not the bad Irish or Scottish Celt.

>>509327063 (OP)
is that some jewish way to split the whites up even further?

>>509336606
>Whites (European Christians)
Nice try christgolem
But your jew religion is not necessary for the definition

>>509338990

They appear to be today. But the truth is that White America is the promised end-time state of Manasseh, which is destined to go thru many trials and tribulations before rediscovering their true identity and purpose.

>>509339688
This is just an asinine take formulated by the Jewish destruction of Western Civilization that has been Christian for over 1000 years.