Thread 509339232 - /pol/ [Archived: 649 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: n2z6+essUnited States
7/2/2025, 10:53:34 PM No.509339232
Math
Math
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Why is Math taught like absolute shit in the US and why do so many math resources out there just blatantly suck? I had a horrible time as a kid learning this and I'm trying to reteach myself as an adult and it just fucking sucks. Any tips? Also general educational system failure discussion because the kids coming up now are even more retarded than I was.
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Anonymous ID: X01gsO5yUnited States
7/2/2025, 10:54:49 PM No.509339330
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>>509339232 (OP)

Einstein was a fraud and plagiarizer
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Anonymous ID: 96xRzIZsUnited States
7/2/2025, 10:56:35 PM No.509339479
>>509339232 (OP)
Do you have any specific complaints?
Or are you just going to tell me that you can't express them because of your shitty English education?
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Anonymous ID: PF1SaIPfUnited States
7/2/2025, 10:56:38 PM No.509339482
These are free and pretty decent.
https://www.wolfram.com/wolfram-u/courses/catalog/?topic=mathematics&f_format%5B%5D=interactive-course&f_level%5B%5D=Advanced&f_level%5B%5D=Beginner&f_level%5B%5D=Intermediate&q=&f_button=filters
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Anonymous ID: Uxu6Oa0yUnited States
7/2/2025, 10:57:27 PM No.509339545
Everything is taught like shit in the United States. For us, education is just practical vocation training. Itโ€™s for getting a job. We donโ€™t actually give a shit about being educated.
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Anonymous ID: Zjww8wE6United States
7/2/2025, 10:58:07 PM No.509339592
>>509339232 (OP)
I gave up on it because of the 'show your work' bullshit. Teachers didn't care that I could do shit in my head faster than their way.
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Anonymous ID: n2z6+essUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:00:16 PM No.509339766
>>509339479
No actually I smoked english every year and the english portion of the SAT with ease despite putting in bare minimum effort. My complaint is mainly that the subject is either presented as incredibly dry information overload (your average HS textbook from pearson or mcgraw) or as overly childish and reductive like khan academy where everything has to be rainbows and puppies and take 5 million years to get through a simple concept. The only math books I've encountered that actually taught well were printed pre vietnam war/new math.
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Anonymous ID: ALjWrQLvUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:06:14 PM No.509340219
>>509339232 (OP)
That sin bit is retarded without parentheses. Should be 0 as they have it
Anonymous ID: Ka0Oqn+2United Kingdom
7/2/2025, 11:13:30 PM No.509340761
>>509339766
Go through the textbooks and do all the practise questions, and then do past papers.
https://www.physicsandmathstutor.com/maths-revision/
Simplest and best way to learn.
Anonymous ID: OQgX/7VXUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:14:55 PM No.509340858
>>509339766
>It's boring because it's straightforward
Only because you're retarded
Anonymous ID: HItKF5KGUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:15:35 PM No.509340925
>>509339545
but i can't even get a job now with my state-sponsored education. So it's now failed on both fronts.
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Anonymous ID: C+Hn24vVUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:17:03 PM No.509341024
>>509339232 (OP)
Your issue is that you're assuming the American school system is there to educate. Any learning that occurs is accidental
Anonymous ID: 17w1ZkGc
7/2/2025, 11:18:27 PM No.509341137
>>509339232 (OP)
Math is the reason im not a millionaire surgeon right now
Anonymous ID: G1ABBMLSUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:19:24 PM No.509341204
>>509340925
you don't use post-6th grade math at work or elsewhere

99% of what you learn in school is not applicable
Anonymous ID: UNUART3eSweden
7/2/2025, 11:24:26 PM No.509341605
>>509339232 (OP)
You need to realize public school isn't for learning, and study on your own. Study grammar, logic and rhetoric, that's what I do, these are the tools of thought, the foundation of all intellectual learning.

https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt
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Anonymous ID: SPl/te5SUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:24:51 PM No.509341638
>>509339232 (OP)

Jews
Anonymous ID: f2V9k8nkUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:27:51 PM No.509341866
Everything algebra and beyond is taught like shit in US high schools because teachers don't have enough time and resources to explain how formulas and functions actually work to 35 kids at once. Out of those 35 maybe a few are actually capable of understanding what a stochastic probability matrix is and why it could be useful to learn it. I barely got by doing quadratic equations because they're actually quite simple and my YouTube tutor is a hottie from Belgium. Boring rigid math teachers were my bane in HS and if only they could have explained to me how transcendental formulas work by going against everything you were taught in traditional math then I would have been a quantum information scientist.
Anonymous ID: iiutcTaG
7/2/2025, 11:30:37 PM No.509342074
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>>509339592
Same.

If a student found the material easy, then they should be introduced to more complex material that is beyond their current ability to compute mentally.

However, the goal of education isn't to to teach the next generation. It's unironically to break your will down until you're willing to tolerate bullshit.

t. math degree fag
Anonymous ID: ibaPGCueUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:30:38 PM No.509342078
>>509339232 (OP)
I recall a small text by a Russian author. Something about apples, maybe. Anyway, here's this https://archive.org/details/perelman-algebra-can-be-fun-mir-1979/page/n9/mode/1up

and a good source for more if the Russian mind is able to help yours. https://math.ru/lib/
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Anonymous ID: SkotsvKJCanada
7/2/2025, 11:34:24 PM No.509342357
>>509339232 (OP)
Understand the concept of abstraction and it should get easier just imagine you are stuffing instructions and properties into mostly Greek symbols and then you stuff those symbols in more symbols and continue doing it and thatโ€™s the basic premise behind abstraction and also math
Anonymous ID: vfVXNb4NUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:34:26 PM No.509342361
Can an adult learn math?
Anonymous ID: n2z6+essUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:35:57 PM No.509342473
>>509342078
This is more like it. At this point I have to throw out anything originally written in english. The french and russian schools of math have historically mogged us so it's probably better to learn from them.
Anonymous ID: SkotsvKJCanada
7/2/2025, 11:36:40 PM No.509342519
>>509339766
Military manuals are great for learning math especially the basic stuff in a no nonsense adult way and I believe they are public domain
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Anonymous ID: UNUART3eSweden
7/2/2025, 11:37:33 PM No.509342589
>>509339232 (OP)
As for math I haven't been looking into that very much, but this is a website I like for the content on logic, and he also has stuff about math, might be worth checking out:

https://amateurlogician.com/mathematics-physics/

The only thing I don't like about his website is that always when he reviews a book he posts a link to buy it from amazon, and he says he earns a commission when you buy the book using that link. That makes me wonder if he's being totally honest in his reviews.
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Anonymous ID: n2z6+essUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:38:49 PM No.509342684
>>509342519
I have a manual from the Navy printed out in the 60s. I should probably give that a serious look.
Anonymous ID: UNUART3eSweden
7/2/2025, 11:43:11 PM No.509343015
https://youtu.be/AOcy6RHw7A8
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Anonymous ID: n2z6+essUnited States
7/2/2025, 11:46:24 PM No.509343261
>>509343015
I have the old book on the trivium written by a catholic nun. Part of the issue with math I think is it's divorce from logic and the failure to teach it as deductive logic.
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Anonymous ID: hsDHYb9sUnited States
7/3/2025, 12:01:41 AM No.509344447
>>509339232 (OP)
American schools got rid of teaching math through proofs and came up with a dumbed down rote learning of math called "new math"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Math
I was a victim of it, it ruined my life as I had a lot of potential to do engineering

I still cant figure out how anyone can actually learn enough math from this system to be able to go on to be able to do college level math
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Anonymous ID: UNUART3eSweden
7/3/2025, 12:04:02 AM No.509344635
>>509343261
I have that book but haven't read it. The book I linked was written by a priest in the 18th century.

I posted some stuff here: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/508076799

I liked math long ago but haven't been interested in it after that. But I saw some stuff about math that interested me, where it was connected to logic, don't know how high level it is. It was something about discreet mathematics and proofs. I think some of the books were on this website:

https://math.libretexts.org/

Anyway my next project is to study Latin, and then later Greek. I downloaded Wheelock's Latin.

Here's a site some anon recommended:

https://freecomputerbooks.com/mathCategory.html

The history of education is interesting. 8-year long school they used to have in Sweden where they studied nothing but Latin and Greek grammar, logic and rhetoric:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivial_school
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Anonymous ID: BURyiVv6United States
7/3/2025, 12:04:19 AM No.509344659
>>509344447
Once you get to calculus, it either gets easier or harder.
Anonymous ID: 7sYAIu75Switzerland
7/3/2025, 12:07:52 AM No.509344966
>>509339232 (OP)
What do you want to do with the math that you learn?

Math takes a lot of time and dedication to learn, it's like learning a new language...
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Anonymous ID: YKmB55wnCanada
7/3/2025, 12:09:11 AM No.509345068
>>509339232 (OP)
McGraw hill was owned by the Maxwells.
Anonymous ID: DsArDn8QUnited Kingdom
7/3/2025, 12:11:24 AM No.509345269
>>509339232 (OP)
Is khan academy good for learning maths if I'm trying to relearn?
Anonymous ID: qUf1FIe0United States
7/3/2025, 12:11:33 AM No.509345275
>>509339232 (OP)
Maybe you're just retarded or went to a nigger school.
What are you having issues with?
Anonymous ID: 1EK94jxaGermany
7/3/2025, 12:12:23 AM No.509345338
>>509344966
I dunno this is a bit like cancer to me, i cannot speak this and never will but i think i to some degree would know how to make things "work" for a lack of a better term.
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Anonymous ID: UNUART3eSweden
7/3/2025, 12:15:08 AM No.509345549
>>509343261
>>509344447
>>509344635
I have a faint memory of reading some novel where a kid was doing proofs using Euclidean geometry or something. Anyway I tried to find the books I was looking at and they seem to be these:

https://math.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Combinatorics_and_Discrete_Mathematics/A_Spiral_Workbook_for_Discrete_Mathematics_(Kwong)

https://math.fsu.edu/~pkirby/mad2104/SlideShow/CourseNotesMAD2104.pdf

One anon posted this book:

https://math.uchicago.edu/~shmuel/lg-readings/Manin,%20Logic%20for%20Mathematicians.pdf

worth checking out:

https://math.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Mathematical_Logic_and_Proof
Anonymous ID: mKUcLSQ1United States
7/3/2025, 12:16:25 AM No.509345658
Nootropics
Nootropics
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>>509339232 (OP)
>Any tips?
You could start taking peptides and or nootropics (not meme ones that are glorified vitamins) like Cerebrolysin, Semax, Dihexa, Isrib (make sure you dont have misfolded prions in you before doing this one, the covid spike protein had a prion like region and if you were infected or vaccinated you may have prion disease, there are cases of people getting Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease after getting the covid vax), Epobis, ARA 290, Neboglamine, Tak 653, and Tropisetron to improve your energy, memory, focus, creativity, motivation, mind clarity, and enhance your ability to understand problems. Microdosing LSD and other psychedelics can also bring some of those benefits. They also repair brain damage, including age related degradation, and increase reaction time + hand eye coordination.
You can take them intranasally as well to get more of it directly to your brain, which is especially beneficial for Cerebrolysin since the alternative is injecting it and the recommended dosing that way is 5ml a day which is a lot to inject.
-rupharma.com has cerebrolysin + semax, cosmicnootropic.com has semax
-Science.bio has Dihexa, isrib, and isrib a15
-pglchem.com and isrib.shop have isrib and isrib a15
-jennyschem.com has Ara 290 and Epobis but the 2nd peptide is not listed, you have to email them and ask about Epobis, I confirmed this with someone who bought it from there and posted pics of it + his experiences with it on r*ddit. If you're doubting the legitimacy of this company since they're in China, I recommend you look up reviews of them on r*ddit
-everychem.com has Tak 653, Tropisetron, and Neboglamine
Other good sources include peptidesciences.com, umbrellalabs.is, and amino asylum
Heres where to get steroids steroidsourcetalk.cc/index.php
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Anonymous ID: mKUcLSQ1United States
7/3/2025, 12:17:05 AM No.509345702
>>509345658
You need to get your account approved by the owners of science.bio to purchase things on there, just say you are researching the effects of UV light on degradation of chemicals and look up a bunch of lab and safety equipment on google and say you have that in the approval form.
If you're interested in reading more about these substances I'd recommend the nootopics, peptides, and nootropics subreddits

Another substance you should look into is called Emeramide. From what I've read it's some revolutionary drug that crosses the blood brain barrier that is very good at removing heavy metals from your body and is apparently quite safe, I've read no other metal chelator comes close to it in terms of effectiveness. It was developed by an anti vaxxer to remove mercury from your body that came from vaccines, which I've also read never leaves your body and instead just goes to a different part of it and causes problems there. Removing mercury and other heavy metals that may be in your brain would bring mental benefits to you.
This site was listed by the person I heard about emeramide from on 4pol as a place that sells legit emeramide. I believe he also said 300mg a day is a good dose. You can find his posts by searching up emeramide in the 4plebs /pol/ archives
www.sacredpurity.com

Also look into transcranial direct current stimulation. You can use this to increase or decrease activity in certain parts of the brain, and that can bring benefits like increased focus, memory, mathematical abilities, language learning abilities, creativity, and helping with depression. You can read more about tdcs on the tdcs subreddit

Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is another thing that may interest you. It helped this guy being talked about in this video recover from severe brain damage
https://youtu.be/mhympAfm0TY
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Anonymous ID: mKUcLSQ1United States
7/3/2025, 12:19:07 AM No.509345839
>>509345702
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Here's the vid on the SS31 and Mots C reversing kidney disease. Maybe they could also reverse things like heart disease, vascular disease, eye problems, etc since damaged mitochondria are heavily implicated in the cause of those things. Could also make you smarter as damaged mitochondria can make you dumber
https://youtu.be/rZRzUWb8UrM

Here's some vetted vendors that sell the above peptides, these are the cheapest prices I've found for them

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Here's SSA's telegram channel, they have their product and pricing list in there
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Jennyschem.com has Ara 290 (make sure you get lyophilized pre vials)
Anonymous ID: 1EK94jxaGermany
7/3/2025, 12:19:23 AM No.509345867
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>>509345338
What is this btw?
Anonymous ID: Rjm11Mrc
7/3/2025, 12:20:28 AM No.509345959
>>509339232 (OP)
That's cool you're trying to learn math for yourself as an adult, Anon. Good for you. I would say try to find what interests you about mathematics and focus on specific concepts in that area. Eventually the bigger picture unfolds when you can start connecting concepts. I know for a lot of people they just love math for the process of solving a puzzle or so physics provides satisfaction, understanding truths about the fundamental rules of reality compelled me to spend lot of time on proofs, but that led into trying to understand messy subjects like economics and evolutionary biology so most of my uni coursework was spent on statistics. Then I realized my best hope for providing for a family was software engineering, so no I just argue with retarded jeets all day over a business product I don't give a fuck about.
Anonymous ID: mKUcLSQ1United States
7/3/2025, 12:22:20 AM No.509346093
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>>509339232 (OP)
>I had a horrible time as a kid learning this and I'm trying to reteach myself as an adult and it just fucking sucks. Any tips?
Look into pic related
Anonymous ID: UNUART3eSweden
7/3/2025, 12:26:07 AM No.509346366
Also if you're interested in old logic books (you should be) one anon mentioned this book:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port-Royal_Logic

The old books are where the good stuff is. I learned from the book I posted here >>509341605 that agent and action are related words, and patient and passion. I had no idea. They don't teach this stuff in school anymore.
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Anonymous ID: UNUART3eSweden
7/3/2025, 12:30:51 AM No.509346687
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>>509346366
Anonymous ID: UNUART3eSweden
7/3/2025, 12:31:52 AM No.509346762
four operations of the mind
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Anonymous ID: hptP4s6DBulgaria
7/3/2025, 12:47:24 AM No.509347922
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>>509339232 (OP)
Idk, itโ€™s pretty good here. Especially if you get into a math secondary-school or highschool. There are a couple in the country and 2 of them are particulary amazing - the kids there immensly develop their problem-solving skills and knowledge among other subjects (geography, history, chem, bio, IT, physics, etc.). Amerimutts have shittier education than a second-world country.
Anonymous ID: UNUART3eSweden
7/3/2025, 12:57:22 AM No.509348663
seems like op didn't really want a discussion, boring thread, anyway I'm going to bed
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Anonymous ID: 7GG+8Cg1Germany
7/3/2025, 1:06:40 AM No.509349384
>>509339330
>Einstein was a fraud and plagiarizer
No he wasn't retard. You don't even know special relativity, or do you?
Your oppinion is simply useless, when you don't understand ANYTHING from his work, you uneducated mutt brainlet.
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Anonymous ID: fhZmXlLmUnited States
7/3/2025, 1:30:37 AM No.509351018
>>509348663
Thanks for the links, anyway.
Looks interesting.
Anonymous ID: DsArDn8QUnited Kingdom
7/3/2025, 1:34:20 AM No.509351282
What about khan academy?
Anonymous ID: MuuMU0FKBangladesh
7/3/2025, 1:41:11 AM No.509351720
>>509348663
>>509342589
>>509339482

Highly appreciate these, anons. Gracias.
Anonymous ID: XmQSY7tFUnited States
7/3/2025, 1:54:26 AM No.509352647
>>509349384
he worked ar a patent office. The real brains behind his work was his cousin that he was fucking.
Anonymous ID: tox2ftbaUnited Kingdom
7/3/2025, 2:07:40 AM No.509353576
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>>509339232 (OP)
I feel like way too much time is spent on tedium in grade school, killing the children's interest in the fundamental dynamism of the universe.

Understand what you are learning is a language and way of thinking and measuring the world, not merely "math." It is our tool we use, along with science, to reach out from our individual Platonic-cave like minds and bring in the outside world in ways our shadow-puppet-casting natural senses cannot. If there is a system of symbols which encodes the language of magick, it is only to be found in a mathematics class.

Buy a SwissMicros DM15L or DM41X, and learn math with that. Those calculators (HP-15C and HP-41CX clones) are as close to what an assembly programmer feels as you're going to get in calculators: they are 4 deep stack-register machines which take input in postfix form (RPN), meaning you put the input operand(s) (#s) on the stack then invoke your operator (+-*/...). This is superior to infix input because you will almost never write or store intermediary values to complete a calculation.

Program (it's stupid easy) on it to do numeric integration and solve. How do *you* encode a polynomial function so you can find zeroes, using keypress programming? If you learn how to competently explain the use of 95% of the DM15L, you will have the best introduction to your adult math education that I could think of.

Remember, math is a game: it's a set of rules and then consequent theorems. Math is nothing to fear, but ignorance of math is.
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Anonymous ID: PZFoL+rlUnited States
7/3/2025, 2:13:18 AM No.509353941
>>509339232 (OP)
This is why I dropped out of comp sci
>You NEED to learn advanced math goyim, even tho its only used in 0.00002% of jobs that exist.
>It's definitely not a pyramid scheme made by the people who teach math fr fr
Anonymous ID: tox2ftbaUnited Kingdom
7/3/2025, 2:16:17 AM No.509354157
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>>509353576
>buy
Or don't buy and instead download some NAFO fag's HP-15C emulator call JRPN 15C (and 16C is a good companion to it).