>1st, ancient Mesopotamia - 3500 BCE
>2. Indus Valley 3200 BCE
>3. Ancient Egypt 3100 BCE
>4. ancient caral-supe 3000 BCE
>5. Ancient China 2200 BCE
>6. Olmec/maya 1200 BCE

These are the only peoples who have developed civilization independently without outside influence to jumpstart or partake in the process. If you don’t descend from any of these races, you are a nigger. Simple as that.

It’s interesting how all of them (aside from the Central Americans) emerged in a fairly close range of time to each other.

they all stole their ideas from pre cataclysm empires

>>509343708 (OP)
what are the tools on his cloak pocket?

also you're full of shit

>>509344187
Proof? Not being a dickhead, genuinely asking
>>509344322
I assume the larger 2 are knives, not sure about the left-most object. I’m not full of shit either, these are literally the 6 “cradles of civilization”. These are the only 6 areas/peoples who developed civilization entirely on their own.

>>509344677
>mesoamerica
>"on their own"

ehhh probs not

>>509344795
>pyramids are the easiest structure to build when aiming to create some vertical monument
>pyramids are also extremely sturdy and are the one structure most likely to withstand the tests of time
>hmmm wonder why pyramids are a common structure seen in ancient monuments around the world

Retard.

>>509343708 (OP)
>developed civilization independently without outside influence
how the hell is that provable? they all seem to be around the same time, except for the apocalyptos.

>>509345075
lol their own myths tell literally of white men that brought them knowledge of civilization you absolute canaanite nitiwit

>>509345189
Yeah no they didn’t, let’s not do the we wuz shit in my thread, thanks. Fucking niggers I’m telling you.
>>509345150
They are the oldest discovered city-states or organized communities with culture in their particular regions, with no cultural aspects bearing similarity to other cultures.

>>509345404
so

retarded, huh

>>509344187
that is just what a later, shittier empire whose entire legitimacy is founded upon being the first and the best would say

>>509343708 (OP)
All of those civilisations inherited religious traditions from neanderthals who are native to europe.

>>509345567
Except there are zero depictions, accounts or myths describing these deities as being white until after contact. Do actual research instead of reading AI answers that grab information without context, you lazy nigger.
>>509345593
Elaborate?

>>509343708 (OP)
Karahan Tepe. 9500 BC

>>509345882
This is actually somewhat true, but the debate is this can’t be considered a true civilization since there is no proof of permanent residence, social hierarchies, greater culture or agriculture. What most experts agree on now is that gobekli tepe was a ceremonial place occupied for only short durations during key time frames. There is more to be studied of course.

>>509345189
You mean the heavily Christianized fan fiction wrtitten post conquest, by conquered Aztecs, who didn’t even live in pre Hispanic Aztec society, nor did they read the pre Hispanic codices before they were burned

>>509345567
Like the Saturnian deity of other nations, Quetzalcoatl was considered as the creator.
Like the Saturnian deity of other nations, Quetzalcoatl was also a civilizer.
As in the Saturnian myths of other nations, Quetzalcoatl was the original one and only god.
it is the Mesoamerican belief that when Quetzalcoatl died, his heart flew up and turned into the Morning Star, an event that is duplicated in the mythology of the Egyptian Osiris/Saturn.

also all the great gods of the Aztec pantheon, both the tribal gods and those they won over (from preceding or neighboring civilizations), have a solar aspect and are the Sun in one of its attributes.
It may thus seem understandable when Quetzalcoatl himself is identified as an aspect of the Sun.
The Codex Borgia actually reinforces this belief when it depicts Quetzalcoatl with the sign of Tonatiuh on the back of his head, since Tonatiuh had always been understood to be the Sun. And yet, the depiction in question incorporates the sign for "night" with that of Tonatiuh, thus intimating that Tonatiuh and, by inference, also Quetzalcoatl, was a sun of night.
That the sun of night was an aspect of the primeval Saturnian sun is well known.

True but if you don't have White skin you're brown and a nigger

>>509343708 (OP)
What is that? Surely that isn't a purse, right?

>>509346987
Quetzalcoatl is not the creator-deity in mess-American culture. You can hardly call meso-Mexican deities “gods” in the traditional sense. If anything, Ometeotl is the “creator god”.

>>509343708 (OP)
I know gods are real, and I *think* they visited several places and times in the ancient world. This would explain architectural similarities between the Americas and Eurasia for example.

>>509346370
>You mean the heavily Christianized fan fiction

gee faggot if that were true, you'd think kikes would be RUSHING to amend the wikipedia entries about it

and yet GASP

they aren't

deal with it

>>509347165
No, it’s a bucket of water.

>>509347165
it's the bucket they put all the weed buds in while picking them from the weed plant

>>509343708 (OP)
Ancient Sumerians were white with blue eyes. Indus valley civilization was white too.

You're missing out on ancient Greek civilizations.

>>509347410
its Saturnian Sun worship, very simple.

>>509344187
>>509344677
every single one of them unironically says they did in their founding myths lmfao. plus gobekli tepe is 10,000 years old, most of our understanding of pre history is nonsense.

>>509347772
That isn’t true. Actually, none of them do. lol.

>>509347655
this tho

>go read about all the ancient civilizations
>even the ones claimed to have be semitic
>EVERYONE has weird poojeet sounding names

literally
>queen puduhepa of the hittites
>queen puabi of ur

i think there's a lot of kike historians trying to hide this fact

also, believe it or not, the sumerian language is closest to hungarian

which isn't part of the indo-european language family, but neither is sumerian

>>509347850
Name a single ancient civilization that does NOT credit antediluvian civilization for theirs.

>>509347850
bearded sky daddy came down from heaven and gave it to us

>>509347974
Ancient China and the American groups do not have these stories. The Americans literally claim to have come out of the ground.

>>509348104
ok let's see some sources

>>509348104
>The Supreme Sovereign ordered the water god Gong Gong to create a flood as punishment and warning for human misbehavior. Gong Gong extended the flood for 22 years, and people had to live in high mountain caves and in trees, fighting with wild animals for scarce resources. Unable to persuade the Supreme Sovereign to stop the flood, and told by an owl and a turkey about _Xirang_ or Growing Soil, the supernatural hero Gun stole Growing Soil from heaven to dam the waters. Before Gun was finished, however, the Supreme Sovereign sent the fire god Zhu Rong to execute him for his theft. The Growing Soil was taken back to heaven, and the floods continued. However, Gun's body didn't decay, and when it was cut apart three years later, his son Yu emerged in the form of a horned dragon. Gun's body also transformed into a dragon at that time and thenceforth lived quietly in the deeps. The Supreme Sovereign was fearful of Yu's power, so he cooperated and gave Yu the Growing Soil and the use of the dragon Ying. Yu led other gods to drive away Gong Gong, distributed the Growing Soil to remove most of the flood, and led the people to fashion rivers from Ying's tracks and thus channel the remaining floodwaters to the sea. [Walls, pp. 94-100]
https://talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html#China

And be specific, which Americans.

>>509347655
Yeah they were white, blue eyed people in the Middle East. Even though all their reliefs depict people who coincidentally look like the same people who live there today. Some of you are no better than the actual we wuz niggers.

>>509347655
Indus valley civilization wasn't white. They were mix of Ancient Iranian farmer-related ancestry (earlier agricultural populations from Iran) and Ancient South Asian hunter-gatherer (AASI) ancestry (indigenous to the Indian subcontinent).

>>509343708 (OP)
You all have everything wrong. You want the complete history of the world, look no further than the Urantia Book. All the secrets you are looking for are in its pages. The truth is in its pages.

>>509347772
WHO????

Fucking anglokike... wtf

>>509348305
>Indus valley civilization wasn't white.

>literally had working toilets
>much like the ancient crete civilization
>also had strangely similar symbols in their writing
>regardless
>most of india still shits in the street

if they weren't white, they definetly weren't indian

>>509348439
sounds fake and gay

>>509347655
anglokikes said the same thing about Mediterraneans, yet genetic study after genetic study shows modern day SOUTH ITALIANS are the direct descendants of many Mediterranean civilizations.

>>509348504
read something sometimes you stupid zoomer
https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1572/

>>509343708 (OP)
It is all just white people moving around

>>509348639
lel

>"mediterranean"

>>509345189
You nigger, the Quetzalcoatl that left the city of Tulla, and was prophesized to one day return, was a Toltec king named Quetzalcoatl. A Nahua, just like the Aztecs and the Tlaxcaltecs. This is myth and history blending into one big lie that people use to prove whites civilized the Aztecs. This is easily disproven in a million different ways

>>509345075
Why are they all 4 sided? Why not 3 or 5?
Why are the steps all in the center of a side and not a corner?
Why are all the sides with steps facing south?

>>509348208
So where’s the part where someone else came and taught them civilization? lol.

>>509348439
>the Urantia Book

huh

don't think i will

>>509348732
prove it

>>509348792
4 sides pyramids are most structurally sound and sturdy/balanced. Putting stairs on the corner looks retarded and also compromises structural integrity. Not all of them have south oriented stairs, but if you’re in the southern hemisphere and you want the sun to pass on the opposite side of where the priests ascended, you put it on the southern face.

>>509348690
There's NOTHING in Gobleki Tepe that even insinuates that "chalky people with blonde hair and blue eyes" came and made it... or Karahan Tepe.

>>509348809
>and led the people
you didn't even read it did you? I'm sure you're some uppity liberal snob who equates antediluvian prehistory with le white supremacy, which is an asinine cop out. The race of the antediluvian people is irrelevant ffs.
The major bronze age civilizations credit antediluvian people, demi-gods, gods, etc with helping to or in some cases actually start their civilizations after the flood. All of these flood myths are historical memory of the local population of a comet impact event 10,000 years ago. After a comet hit the ice sheets in North America during the Ice Age, mass die offs of megafauna and catastrophic flooding happened. These flood myths are a retelling of that by the local population AND of antediluvian peoples who survived it.

but hur dur dats racist or whatever
>>509349061
where the fuck did I claim that you retard?
antediluvian civilizations ≠ white people bad
wtf is wrong with you freaks?

>>509349061

Just markers (but very likely still). Most of all an old mode of cognition mostly now wiped out by civilizational disease. Mostly ... :)

>>509345815
They buried their dead in the fetal position, meaning they believed that their spirits were 'reborn.' This is a core motif in every religion and mythology. The first appearance of mythology is found in cave paintings in Europe.

>>509347974
The Norse.
The Japanese.
Most native Americans.

>>509343708 (OP)
Less severe winters + access to clean, running water. Not that hard.

>>509343708 (OP)
olmecs /maya were busy walking to that sweet spot from the bering straight while the other ancients were settled and building, thats why they had a late start

>>509349437
>a comet impact event 10,000 years ago
actually what happened was the capture event, 7k to 10k years ago when the saturnian system (which earth was part of) got captured by the present sun.

>>509343708 (OP)
What is your criteria for civilization? Because all those dates are thousands of years after agriculture and the first cities

>>509349437
Yeah, the context of “led the people” in this case refers to the draining of the water back to the sea, not of leading them in creating a permanent settlement/society. Are you sure YOU read it? You can’t just single out a sentence and then completely fashion your own the context for it.

>>509343708 (OP)
The fact that people actually believe civilization originated from fucking deserts tells me everything i need to know about "people"

>>509349953
Do you know what a river is?

>>509349556
Yeah, not really. Neanderthals actually had more variation in burial positions than humans did. Even if they did bury all their dead in the fetal position, trying to imply this influenced human culture tens of thousands of years later is fucking retarded. https://archaeology.org/news/2024/10/29/study-compares-modern-human-and-neanderthal-burials-in-the-levant/#:~:text=However%2C%20Neanderthals%20tended%20to%20bury,%2C%20and%20semi%2Dflexed%20positions.

>>509349717
Doesn’t make sense. They were in New Mexico 24,000 years ago, plus civilizations started further south in the Andes thousands of years earlier.

>>509348941
In the Florentine Codex it’s stated that the exiled Quetzalcoatl was a priest-king, named Ce Acatl Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl, who ruled over the Toltec city of Tollan. He was a big promoter of the Quetzalcoatl cult, and was responsible for its growth. Keep in mind, this was written centuries after the fact, through oral historic accounts by Nahuas, recorded by a priest, named Fernando de Alva Ixtlilxochitl.

This cult of Quetzalcoatl opposed human sacrifice. The cult of Tezcatlipoca ended up being the reason why he went into exile. The invasion of the Tezcatlipoca and his cult is theorized to have been a militaristic faction that practiced sacrifice and black magic. Like the Aztecs. This cult ultimately won over, leading to the kings exile

>>509349556

Ever dug a large hole ... yourself I mean, not having it the prisoners do it themselves ... there is your answer.

>>509343708 (OP)
Civilization was created by Aryans

>>509349717
that was the aztecs, who came from wisconsin apparently

lel

>>509349910
the draining of the water back to the sea allowed them to have a civilization you retard. that's the point of the flood myth lmfao
>demi-god with a god's help saves the humans and starts their civilization
it's your typical flood myth
>>509349580
>Norse
they have Ragnarok
>Japanese
Isn't Shinto a lot older?
>native Americans
Cherokee (Great Lakes area; eastern Tennessee):

Day after day, a dog stood at the river bank and howled piteously. Rebuked by his master, the dog said a flood was coming, and he must build and provision a boat. Furthermore, the dog said, he must throw him, the dog, into the water. For a sign that he spoke the truth, the dog showed the back of his neck, which was raw and bare with flesh and bone showing. The man followed directions, and he and his family survived; from them, the present population is descended. [Gaster, pp. 116-117]
Mandan (North Dakota):

The earth is a large tortoise. Once a tribe, digging for badgers, dug deep into the earth and cut through the shell of Tortoise. Tortoise began to sink, and water rose through the knife cut. The water covered all the ground and drowned all the people except one man, Nu-mohk-muck-a-nah, who escaped in a large canoe to a mountain in the west. Today, a plank structure called the "big canoe" stands in the central plaza of a Mandan village. The Mandans celebrate the subsidence of the flood every year with a ceremony called Mee-nee-ro-ka-ha-sha, held when willow leaves are fully grown because the twig that the turtle-dove brought home had such leaves. In the ceremony, a man representing the survivor collects edged tools from each household; these are later thrown into a deep pool. If this sacrifice is not made, the man says, another flood will come and destroy everyone. [Judson, p. 20; Frazer, pp. 292-294]
https://talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html#NorthAmerica

there's a lot more of these

>>509350367
First city in Finland didn’t spring up until the 13th century btw

>>509350432
>Isn't Shinto a lot older?
meant younger

>>509343708 (OP)
>without outside influence
Anon, I...

>>509350432
Yeah, it still doesn’t explicitly state the gods gave them civilization by teaching them how to do it, which is what you first claimed. Changing goalposts now? Maybe consider you are incorrect. But no, niggers can never admit they’re wrong.

>>509346987
>saturn sun wont you come

>>509343708 (OP)
Atlantis was in Spain, which is referenced by the egyptians as the OG civilization where they took all their knowledge off.
So I'm in charge of deciding who's a nigger and who is not a nigger
My veredict:
Whites - non niggers
Browns - half up to 100% niggers (indians/pakis)
Blacks - complete niggers
Jews - gay niggers
Asians (the good kind of asians) - non niggers, but controlled by the hivemind

>>509348732
are now spaniards white?
make your fucking terms anglocucks
and the aztecs weren't civilized, they were destroyed
by the castillian and tlaxcalan alliance

>>509350622
>explicitly state
anon... we're talking about flood myths. not much is explicitly stated by any of them because they're allegorical in nature. Every one of them has some god telling a demi-god or prophet a flood and cataclysm is coming lmfao.
I don't understand why you people think the great civilizations of the bronze age being helped is a BAD thing. Do you not want to know more about our pre history?

>>509349706
>the weewee river
>people call chinx "yellow"

this always amused me

>>509350738
bro he's talking about the founding of the aztecs lol, not when the spanish came

>>509344187

>>509343708 (OP)
>>509344187
>>509344322
obligatory

>>509349580
The Norse credit Hyperborea for their founding. You must have never read how the Japanese credit godlike beings for their creation. Namely the pale skinned Amaterasu. Which native Americans do you think didn’t believe pale skinned peoples founded their culture? I’ll gladly disprove it

>>509350701
Havs anyone found bones of people dating that far back?

>>509350746
>>509351013
Meant to you, you

>>509351013
one of the last refuges of neanderthals was in southern spain from like 20k years ago

so it's not impossible

doesn't mean it's true

>>509350746
I don’t think it’s a bad thing, I just don’t like bullshit. Yeah the fringe theory you’re advocating for is super fascinating and imaginative and wonderful, but the evidence isn’t there. You can make the argument for Mesopotamia and Egypt (like actual myths of gods teaching humans metallurgy and agriculture etc), but that doesn’t pertain to all 6.

>>509350432
>they have Ragnarok
That's something that is supposed to happen in the future, not something that supposedly happened in the past.

>Isn't Shinto a lot older?
Not relevant. The Japanese literally make it s point of pride that they have no flood myth because they thought it proved they were at the top of the world.

>Cherokee
I said most native Americans.

Flood myths are not nearly as common as you think they are. Even the Egyptians, though they did have flood myths, did not have the sort of myth that would support your point.

>>509351089
I mean for pre flood people.

>>509350982
He asked about antedeluvian civilizations. The groups I mentioned do not have catastrophic flood myths.

>>509351013
>>509351049
The Atlantis myth he is referring to would've happened 10,000 years ago, so yes we have found bones of anatomically modern humans that far back lol

>>509343708 (OP)
We should be allowed to decide whom is or not, but spanish cucks stole that right away from us, alongside our gold.
Fact is, not much is known about Caral other than it being a civilization along the Supe river with 20 something settlements, yet it later gave, albeit indirectly, the foundations for other civilizations in our history. I am sure those that live in Mesopotamia descendant states, like Iraq, are just as mad as we are at the spanish for taking away from us what was meant to be a bright future. If only we had the balls to stop blaming the spaniards (fuck them however) and instead recognize how our culture has become a mess and there's little sense of a coherent identity between Lima and the rest of the country, maybe we could exploit the potential we once had as a civilization.

Also no here we were never white and you could argue closer to being niggers than being white in terms of skin color, but if we one day get our shit together hopefully we could become a great society.

>>509351319
Did they have aylmao sized heads? And what race where they

>>509351358
cope faggot

>>509343708 (OP)
Sumer was the first civilization, with the beginnings of writing around 3500 BC.
Sumer is what is now southern Iraq.
Southern Iraqis are the oldest civilized people, and thus, perhaps, the true master race.

>>509343708 (OP)
They all said that the gods had snake/fish underparts and horns. There were also gods with wings, but even they had a reptilian component (like Quetzalcoatl)

>>509348602

Retarded we wuzzer

>>509351540
lel everyone knows indians shit in the street, the fuck you on about?

>>509351409
I'm pretty sure Sapiens Sapiens was already a thing back in 10BCE, but if atlantis really existed as a society it would be easy to find evidence that would prove their existence if their advances were so great as they claimed. Modern systems, I'm sure can detect traces of metal and other elements at very deep trenches, I can't then understand how you could develop a society, supposedly underwater (There's no evidence an abnormal land mass was present around the bay of biscay or the atlantic sea during that period) without the use of metals that do not rust, hell, unless they imply we can somehow discover elements so unstable they can't really exist for an absurdly low portion of a second but can't discover whatever in the fuck element they used to create an underwater society with infrastructure that is not subject to oxidation and decay.
Spanish anon clearly is a bit too disconnected from the physical realm as to understand how that is an impossibility

>>509343708 (OP)

Only Mesopotamia (which is first) and possibly Indus valley could be considered to be founded independently from the list, there is no way the others were not influenced from the outside.

>>509351637
>indians shit in the street
That's the LEAST of their offenses... they fucking EAT in shit.

>>509351637
I'm on about you being a retarded subhuman and a complete failure. Comprende?

>>509351456
>retard who believes in atlantis
>is from the faggot continent yet is stupid enough to call someone from a country that literally jokes about skinning faggots alive a faggot
i need not say more, instead watch in pleasure as your country crumbles from within. At this rate, hopefully spain ends up like in 1936. Anon here with his below 80 iq doesn't really give his country any favors

>>509344322
He's spreading the "seeds of civilization". Maybe you already know why the symbology is a pine cone. Also, what is the fleur de lis associated with? The flower that makes up the border...

>>509343708 (OP)
>If you're not asian, sandnigger, nigger or spic, you're a nigger
Now that's some high-tier nigger posting, OP, congratulations

>>509351754
Sanchuniathon wrote that Thoth (Hermes, Mercury) deliberately confused the myths, he was one of the observers, it was his task.

Do you think the truth will be revealed to you? You only know what you are supposed to know. Giants, gnomes, reptilians (apkallu, nagas, horned snakes), thunderbirds (garudas. They are also depicted on Mesopotamian bas-reliefs) really exist, as do parallel spaces.

There is a whole civilization inside the earth, and the heavenly gods see people as if on the palm of their hand

God is real by the way

>>509346987
>Osiris/Saturn
>new veneers, new pageantry, nothing new under the sun
On point.

>>509351148
I don't consider the Japanese as we know them an ancient culture anyway to be fair.
And a lot of the big native american tribes have flood myths, not sure what you mean.
And Egypt does this kind of a myth. iirc it's one of the pyramid texts but I genuinely can't remember which one.
>>509351517
they're not even close to the first civilization ffs
>>509351123
there's more evidence they were influenced by pre-flood people (because of their own stories) than they just sprang out of no where already knowing math, astronomy, architecture, culture, etc. Egypt fucking declines over time lol, it comes out of no where at the peak of its sophistication.

>>509351754
>were so great as they claimed
what exactly, do you think "advanced" means in the context of pre-flood civilizations? silly aliens?

If you trace back the origins of any civilization it will come to the same story.
Evil gods either creating us or messing with us in order to have offspring that ruled over us, and that it was lost in a war that used weather weaponry.
Atlantis was real and the ruins are still out there.
Poseidon was real, and a fallen angel.
His sons were real and were nephilim/giants.

The bible doesn't discredit ancient religions, just claims those gods to be dead, and their offspring don't make it alive to the new testament. Their souls are trapped in this planet because they are not made by God (with G), they can't go with him.

All the browns and niggers never created a civilization, they just inhabited the ruins in perpetual decay until we found them and uplifted them.
Asians are a different subject, much less innovative, but hard workers. They are slower to create new things, but once they manage to copy something they are fast to implement it and optimize it. They have a hard time on figuring the NEW

>>509351829
>Comprende?
no

i don't 'comprende' in fact

>>509352435
probably running water and plumbing would have been pretty advanced. electricity and internal combustion would have been mind blowing.

>>509343708 (OP)
From what I know about the ancient Mesopotamians and the ancient Egyptians is that they themselves never claimed an independent start to their civilization. In fact their mythology says that they received the knowledge to do all that civilization requires.

>>509351925
These winged dudes were closely associated with the god Enki, the Babylonian name of Ea (pronounced 'Eyah', identified as Kronos by Berossus) was Enki.
In fact, Ea was actually written with the ideogram EN.KI.
Our interest here lies in the fact that Enki, who must, therefore, also be equated with Saturn, was known as "the motionless lord" and god of "stability."
As the god of stability, Enki compares favorably with Saturns epithet as the Stable One.
As the motionless lord, we again see that this stability had nothing to do with slowness of movement.
What is being described is an immobile god, a planet bereft of motion.

>>509345075
Not to mention it is inspired by nature (mountains) mound builders n such

>>509352559
>Our interest here lies in the fact that Enki, who must, therefore, also be equated with Saturn

stop

prove it or go fuck yourself

>>509352435
pre-flood civilizations?
anon if we do not have a clear point of reference it is hard to make an argument
that being said advanced in civilization typically means their progress towards fulfilling the needs of their population and making their legacy trascendental. While the egyptian pyramids, for instance, are seen as an architectural wonder at the time, let alone a logistical one, it hints at egypt having been a very organized and hierarchical organization, thus making advances from what were previously assumed to be random nomad tribes. Milestones like that serve to give us an idea of what their civilization was like, and in what fields they had advanced in.
Meanwhile we see no hints or milestones let alone chemical footprints of the presence of humans in the area in which atlantis was supposedly located in.
idk what you mean by pre-flood civilizations but as i was about to tell the russian anon, we only have a clear idea of the history of earth up to a certain point, and 10000BCE is already within that time period.

>>509347511
Kikes have been using Christianity as a bludgeon against the world for two thousand years

>>509352799
atlantis sucks and is ufo tier conspiracy

>>509349717
But do you see how many hurricanes and earthquakes Mexico gets every year? I think there was civilization years before the Olmecs, but they were destroyed. The Aztec creation myth tells of 4 cataclysms that wiped out past civilizations.

During the first sun a race of giants inhabited the earth. Tezcatlipoca turned into a Jaguar and devoured all of them. Tezcatlipoca and Quetzalcoatl
arrived in this age, possibly representing the two different cults at this time. Tezcatlipoca was the “sun” during this age

The second sun was inhabited by normal humans. Quetzalcoatl was the sun of this age. When the humans grew disrespectful, Tezcatlipoca turned them to monkeys, so Quetzalcoatl unleashed a strong wind and blew them away so he could start over

The third sun was destroyed by a rain of fire

The fourth sun was wiped out by massive floods

>>509352552
simply having astronomy and basic hand tools would've been impressive.
this used to be a topic that couldn't be talked about because we had no evidence civilizaiton when back that far, but gobekli tepe is legitimately 10,000 years old so we know people were able to make this pre flood.
>>509352799
the specific flood myth Plato got from Solon who got it from Egyptian Priests is just one flood myth among 1000s. antediluvian civilizations is a proven fact now. Gobekli tepe is proof.
The civilization that built this and others was already thriving at the time of the ice age.

>>509347165
read The Testament of Atrahasis.
It's the "myth" that was translated from Sumerian tablets. they explain that humans were created out of spite, by Gods that despised them. Upon being created, they were given a bag and put to work as slaves. That's it.
That's the answer.
It's literally written in their texts.

>>509352909
finally a sane comment in this thread

>>509352927

>>509352934
>It's literally written in their texts.
we're not allowed to take what they say for some reason
>>509352909
pre history isn't ancient aliens

>>509352764
>prove it
the ancients themselves said so.
why do you think you know better than them?

>>509348104
lol

>>509352970
seriously tho

even that
>richart
structure or whatever in the atlas mountains of north africa, at BEST all they've ever found ere neolithic stone tools and that's it

>>509344187
Based

>>509353022
>the ancients themselves said so.
WHERE

>>509352909
So was troy until it was found

>>509353087
Let us face it, all of the major so called sun gods of the ancients were actually personifications of the Saturnian sun.
Even Ra, usually presented as the Egyptian sun god par excellence, turns out to have been imbued with characteristics and motions which are not, and can never be, attributable to the present Sun.
Thus Ra was lauded as having abided within a nest of rings or circles; of having been of an emerald color shedding rays of emerald hue; of "going up" on the west and "going down" on the east side of the sky; and of moving down at dawn and upstream at night.
So, likewise, with Yima who, as his alter ego Vaivasvata, or Vivasvant, was honored as a sun-god in the Zoroastrian tradition of ancient Persia.
But that the Persian Yima, the equivalent of the Hindu Yama, personified the planet Saturn is well known.
We could go down the list of various so called sun-gods only to find out that, originally, they were actually Saturnian sun-gods, prime among whom we also find the Greek Helios himself who, like Kronos, who was Saturn, was considered a Titan.
Helios and Yahweh were also identified with Dionysos, whose Satumian selfsameness need not be repeated.
Nor do we need these Titanic and Dionysiac connections in order to make our case because the Classical Greeks themselves were quite clear on the issue, presenting Helios as a name for the planet Saturn in no uncertain terms. And so, also, with the Latin Sol.
This leads us to assume that the jewish prayers to Helios, and the representations of Helios in jewish synagogues, were actually dedicated to Saturn.
while Saturn was not the only planet that was looked upon as a god, the Saturnian deity will be found at the very head of every pantheon the world has ever known.
He was the first and for a time the only god of humankind.

>>509353048
richat is the dumbest fucking thing ever when it comes to pre history and you can pretty much dismiss anyone who seriously considers it.
it wasn't flooded 10,000 years ago, it was under water like 50 million years ago lmfao

>>509347165
>In BC, they could not possibly have had baskets

It's literally a dude picking acorns, wearing a slain eagle on his back or something

>>509353093
yeah but the types of expeditions that have set out to prove mythological places from antiquity are real have been ongoing since like the 1860's at their earliest i believe

and there's been no shortage of amazming finds that prove, for example
>kikes actually DID sacrifice their children to demons
>just like carthaginians

yet the proof of atlantis' existence remains elusive to this day

>>509345882
We can back further, find the mammoth bone structure in Russia or 16k year on some S,EA island lemme Google le Google, couldn't find it specifically but

>>509353141
that's a lot of opinion for not a single cited source

>>509353048
i think the strongest counterargument is how there are little chemical traces of many of these claimed "pre-flood" civilizations, if there even was one. I'm not even going to try and understand the geographical implications of that either.
its not like carbon-14 hasn't been used as an isotope to track the age of civilizations, maybe it has already been used in regions where civilizations supposedly existed, and nothing much was really found? also even a great flood can't wipe everything out, that is physically impossible

>>509347165
It's a basket, he is picking fruits

>>509353265
peronally i try not to delve into giving any acknowledgement of truth regarding any historical possibilities of this or that until i can at east prove some kind of interesting set of coincidences between two civilizations for example

but when the coincidences start piling up, it becomes hard to ignore

>>509347980
UPDOOTED

>>509353263
its all facts.
also question, are you jewish?

>>509352365
No, there isn’t evidence in their stories. Only really in the 2 I mentioned. You realize humans have been more or less the same for 10’s of thousands of years, right? Actually, their brains used to be bigger because they needed to be smarter in certain areas to survive in the harsher wild environment. They didn’t just suddenly know math, civilization lets you divide labour and thus individuals can spend more time in safety pursuing imaginative endeavours. Foundational mathematics, architecture and astronomy with all their relation is just a system built on a framework of measurement. You think ancient humans didn’t have the capacity to measure things?

>>509353550
>its all facts.
facts o easy to prove you can't cite any sources eh?

>>509343708 (OP)
Ancient Egyptians pyramids were based off Mesopotamian buildings and Ancient Egyptian theology was based on Nubias

>>509353618
its literally common knowledge that anyone can look up.
also are you jewish?
can you answer that question otherwise I take it as a yes.

>>509353611
>They didn’t just suddenly know math
leaf... that's exactly what academics claim. One day, for no reason at all, every bronze age culture on earth suddenly knew things they didn't before.
I am the one arguing FOR ancient humans having the capacity for these things LOL. The mainstream narrative is we were stinky poopoo dummies before like 3000 BC when we became cityfags.

>>509353760
>its literally common knowledge that anyone can look up.

THEN LOOK IT UP AND POST IT

>>509344187
lol

>>509353435
im a stem student so i tend to opt to evaluate its plausibility based on natural laws
that being said up to a certain point much becomes uncertain because elements also decay, and so do chemical footprints. If you were to ask me whether a civilization existed as far back as 30000BCE, I would tell you i don't really know nor is there a reliable way to know.
now your second argument is a really good one, I may not know much of ancient history (not pre-history) but more often than not civilizations tend to share records and you can figure something out going from there is what I think you mean

>>509344677
>Proof
it was bait leaf
leafs should know about how they work

indus could have been influenced by to-be persians tho

>>509353225
>yet the proof of atlantis' existence remains elusive to this day
So we are going to deny everything we haven't discovered yet has ever existed?
Are we going to deny that things we can't do yet can't ever be done?

There's more shit out there to be discovered than what we have discovered so far. Everyone pretty much suspects there's something really important either under the pyramids or under the sphinx.
Everyone agrees there's entire cities under the water all around the world.
A few even agree there were other humanoids coexisting with humans and that there are pyramids in Europe.
There is only one thing guaranteed and it's that what the mainstream belief now will not be the mainstream belief in a few decades. Just take our current understanding of what dinosaurs are, for example, and compare it with the understanding of those 100 years ago.

>>509343708 (OP)
Don't all those places have huge ziggurats or pyramids?

>>509353028
Oh yeah, I remember this. The woman who wrote this is a mentally ill grifter and her own tribe shunned her for making shit up about their history and mythos.

>>509348305
u sure they had AASI?

>>509353884
>So we are going to deny everything we haven't discovered yet has ever existed?

what the hell kind of argument is that?

I'm gonna deny proof that other things existed, because there's no real proof that atlantis existed??

>>509353774
i think its more likely knowledge sporadically formed from individual small civilizations or tribes that were too irrelevant to stand the test of time rather than the existence of one advanced civilization that is being hidden from us.It's not that we didn't know them before, it's that people who inherited knowledge from their tribes or communities gathered in a society and made progress together in a way

>>509353797
you are jewish and its not really worth it to continue talking to you. you arent here to argue in good faith and I doubt you would read any of these books anyway, like the Book of the dead for example which describes Ra's motions and other things that do not correspond with what we observe in the sky today.

have you ever even heard about it? probably not, jewish people tend to be very ignorant.

>>509343708 (OP)
It's BC you fucking FAGGOT. KILL YOURSELF.

>>509351517
southern iraqis are mostly arabian immigrants currently

>>509352559
Enki was never king of the Gods. Saturn becomes king after dethroning his father, Anu of Ur aka Uranus.

Enlil and his son Ninurta combined are the character of saturn for the ancient mesopotamians. He's split up into 2 characters in their pantheon. Shamesh is another representation of him.

>>509354019
>when someone asks you for proof of your gay lies
>THEY are the jew
>and NOT the person who posted the gays lies to begin with

that's gay, kike

>>509353982
>there's no real proof that atlantis existed
It's mentioned, described and located (poorly). Which is the same proof as with other locations that have been assumed to be a legend and eventually discovered

That is the entire argument. Now if you only want to quote a single line to misrepresent my position it means you don't have an intention to argue in good faith.

Hancock retards ITT

>>509353822
for real

even the armchair historian can literally collect whole volumes of 600+ pages of research pertaining to just ONE subject, but it will also be related by culture, or history, or religion, or region, to some OTHER 600+ page study about this other thing

then if you read both, hell even skim over while searching for keywords - that shit starts getting weird

>>509354146
>Enki/Enlil/Ninurta/Anu/Shamash
these are all the Saturnian Sun or aspects of it.

>>509354154
can you denounce the Talmud and curse the Torah?

>>509353949
>uhhhh she's crazy!
why do shills always call people crazy? It makes you glow super hard
>noooooooo the injuns said she's wrong
The same ones that gatekeep archeologists studying suspiciously Celtic looking burial mounds, even going so far as destroying them themselves?
lol why are you shilling so hard. The South Amerindians said that the tall fair haired Spanish looked just like their gods

>>509354012
>it's that people who inherited knowledge from their tribes or communities gathered in a society and made progress together in a way
but that's what I'm claiming lol, there just happened to be a flood that spread out these people

>>509354319
Graham Hancuck is jewish and a liar, hes also married to a nigger and has his own Netflix propaganda outlet where he shills his fake timeline of human civilization, Hancuck is also promoted by other famous jews like jew rogan or Lex Friedman.

>>509352990
You're missing something there. The scorpion is a symbol of tanit. The head is the shining eye in the sky, the claws are the bull horns of heavens. The tail is the ladder of heaven that radiated down to the earth.

I know why they don't want to dig out golbeki tepe. The older the civilizations we find, the closer we get to the true story, that saturn used to be the earths sun. It will redefine religions.

>>509344187
The Olmecs WERE an antidaluvian or pre-cataclismic civilization. Their statues are found 50 feet below the surface.

>>509354567
>t. only heard of him when he got on netflix

>>509354626
>when he got on netflix
the point is the guy is promoted by (((them))).

i see OP was reading about the cradles of civilization recently like me. are we to presume the ancient people in scandi/UK are all people who traveled from sumeria?

>>509354698
thank you for confirming you only heard about him when he got on netflix, you fucking retard

>>509354747
I didnt confirm anything, learn to read.
also you are jewish.

>>509353774
Well no, the progression is clear. No academics are claiming we just suddenly learned math. Agriculture allowed us to settle long term. Long term settlement allowed us to organize and cooperate on greater projects. Settlement allowed us to develop math and record keeping further because we now had free time and divisional labour and archaic classism. Like I said, it’s just measurement and compartmentalization. We’ve been doing that all along, the huts we lived in as nomads, the tools we made and the navigation we undertook all required an understanding of measurement. This conceptual understanding further developed and evolved into what it is now. It’s a progression, not a sudden jump into advanced math.

>>509354610
>The scorpion is a symbol of tanit.

never heard this or seen this before

my undertanding was that it could be zodiac related

but if you have a source I'd read it

>>509344187
If the ideas are to tell a history or truth of the Earth and Cosmos, how is it stealing?

I think people should be seeking out primary source, indeed. But archeology of certain sites are sometimes cover-up.

>>509343708 (OP)
You're a retard if you believe that. Those civilizations are much older than that.

>>509352927
What civ was the gobekli tepians? Do we have a name for them?

>>509354567
He's a fraud, I suspect freemason instead of jew but it's pretty much the same gay satanic shit.
At first his stuff passes as credible, since he denounces officialist/mainstream beliefs that are terribly outdated nowadays. But if you are even slightly autistic he touches so much stuff he'll eventually talk about something you really know about, and you'll see he's full of shit.
He's been fed a few truths to catch your attention and sell the rest of his lies that serve an agenda.

>>509352934
Explain further pls

>>509353822
Well there are ways to know. The remnants of civilizations are not hard to miss. All we have from those times are stone tools and other artefacts following a cluster of local industry and culture, in both time and space.

>>509354610
>the closer we get to the true story, that saturn used to be the earths sun. It will redefine religions.
actually it would destroy these religions, not only are they worshipping a Star (which is not really a God), they also committed all kinds of atrocities in its name, mutilated their dicks, sacrificed children and animals, fought wars over it etc. , all for nothing.

>>509348867
>>509348637
Ahh... so you believe what the jews say.... maybe you should investigate further. The only truth lies in its pages

>>509343708 (OP)
>without outside influence
you're complicating things. Civilization began in the pontic steppe when the yamnaya and similar peoples developed bronze weapons and kicked the shit out of everyone in a 10,000 km radius

civs 1, 2, and 3 were started by ancient aryans who brought their bronze technology to a bunch of stone age river niggers and subjugated them.

4 and 6 were just neolithic niggers who never developed bronze

the chinese were also neolithic niggers but they learned of bronze from whites


>>509348792
>Why not 3 or 5?
are you retarded?
because 4 is the easiest to make
>why not 13 sides hurr

>>509349777
>actually what happened was the capture event, 7k to 10k years ago when the saturnian system (which earth was part of) got captured by the present sun.
actually ur retarded

>>509350577
retarded nigger

>>509354880
I'm not sure honestly. I think they have a random name given to them after the fact but we don't really know.
>>509354811
That was all and good until Gobekli Tepe was discovered. The knowledge that supposedly came about in the bronze age is thousands of years older.

>>509354880
almost certain they were proto-indo-european

espiecally because of artifacts like
>that fit tiddied woman with two lions for pets
motif

or the more european version
>fat lady with fat tits
meme is found mostly among whitey's ancestors

>>509354928
exactly and thats how the mainstream works, there is the official story and then there is the alternative storys (controlled opposition) which they put out there for the people who dont fall for the official narrative.
Hancucks job is to lure you in and then lead you out into the bush so you never figure shit out.

>>509354821
I'm explaining to you what they are showing you with the scorpion. Tanit symbol shows 3 things. A shining eye, the bull horns of heaven and a body type figure radiating down from the eye. That's the scorpion. Golbeki Tepe is FULL of tanit symbolism in what we've seen. The scorpion is tanit. Yes, it's related to the sky. When Saturn, Mars and Venus had a certain alignment it made a scorpion figure. The tail represents a ladder from saturn to earth during a certain precision.

>>509355023
>you belive what jews

prove that something i said was a quote from jews and how if anything, doesn't make them look like child sarificing demon worshipers

>>509344187
Kek

>>509355041
>actually ur retarded
and another jewish shill enters the thread

>>509354807
shut up zoomer go read a book

>>509354480
Everyone else in her cultural group called her a crazy fibber, but definitely she’s the one that’s right and everyone else is wrong. Hair changes colour when decaying. Tons of those burial mounds have been excavated and DNA analysis proves they’re just natives. South Americans never actually said that, either.

>>509348104
>>509353611
There are three types of ppl who reply and like this: Hebrews, Jeets and Niggers. Coming from a Native we absolutely have many parallel stories to christianity, greek myths and cree cree Lord of Rings type tribal wars between Gaints Humans. Proofs faggot
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ybLbLzB6qJg&t=491s&pp=ygUZaG9waSBwcm9waGVjeSBkb2N1bWVudGFyeQ%3D%3D

>>509344187
/THREAD

>>509352927
that shit is crazy 12000 BC drawings

>>509355283
they must've been so fucking proud of themselves lmfao

>>509343708 (OP)
Egypt doesnt count they copied mesopotamia

>>509354744
No because the DNA doesn’t support that. There are some signals from the Middle East, but they appear after migrations into those regions way before Sumerian existed (and then after again because of the Roman’s).

>>509355173
>no source

wrong

>>509343708 (OP)
>BCE
fuck off kikel

>>509355426
They carved it using their penises

>>509354963
'Gods" that look like us, created a race of beings to worship them and to be enslaved.
Our ancestors referred to this race as the Anunnaki.
The Anunnaki rebelled against their creators in a war they apparently lost.
They clone humanity from the blood and DNA of a slain human-like God enemy warrior, the god Kingu
What is created is a dumbed-down version of their creators - us, the human race
Humanity is now the Anunnaki's bitch
This explains why sacrificing humans to our "Gods" was meant with prosperity, as our 'creators/Gods" fucking hate our existence

>>509355557
lel

this though

>>509352927
Ok, look at this. Does this appear like it is higher advanced than egypt?

Hancock and the other retards sound like there was a civilization that was
1. MORE ADVANCED (you know the powertool stuff etc)
2. GLOBE-SPANNING
3. WHITE (implied)

I mean, look at this. Nice, but is this much more advanced than hieroglyphs or cuneiform or drawings on Knossos.

They can't even really define themselves how or what that civilization looked like and did, how far it was developed in what regards.

Literally all of these were taught by the same people.

Aka the whites who rebuilt everything after the cataclysm of 10000BC

>>509355011
Modern religions are only 1.5 -3k years old

lmaoo at retards thinking this proves any of them when those ruins are 14,000+ years old and this is just the top were seeing in the pictures. 90%+ is still buried

>>509355211
>you're a jew if you don't think saturn just flew into the exact orbital plane 10k years ago even though there's astronomical evidence for this
saturn doesn't even emit visible light. how would plants of 10kya, who are genetically identical to those of today, have performed photosynthesis?

no, you're the jew, retard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky

>Immanuel Velikovsky was born in 1895 to a prosperous Jewish family in Vitebsk, Russian Empire (now in Belarus). The son of Shimon (Simon Yehiel) Velikovsky (1859–1937) and Beila Grodensky, he learned several languages as a child and was sent away to study at the Medvednikov Gymnasium in Moscow, where he performed well in Russian language and mathematics.

This is the guy who started the saturnian capture nonsense whom all the electric jewniverse people cite. He was just a jewish pulp fiction writer. He didn't even have a degree in physics. Even the hack Isaac Asimov was better.

>>509350622
Dumb Nigger throw in the towel. You lost. You bad faith faggot.

>>509355638
>you know the powertool stuff etc
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

YEA BRO THEY WERE AYY LMAO WITH FRICKIN SPACE LASERS

>>509347870
well you fucking retard maybe because indo european WAS a thing around 3k years before uruk so obviously theyre gonna sound the same as well as their religion and lore

>>509355194
You should read it and find out yourself then. I dont respect your opinion until you do

>>509355041
They were still working out the different alloys. The Aztecs had a fascination with gold alloys. The neighboring purpepechas did have bronze weapons. It’s how they were able to fight off the Aztecs, and avoided being conquered

>>509348305
>ancient indus wasnt white
>they were white and AASI

>>509355735
How did I “lose”? He literally changed goalposts and couldn’t support his claims. Fucking autistic retard.

>>509355426
Keep laughing at them till they find metallic objects and rare metals buried below

turkey are some faggots though shutting down the excavation site and planting trees on top. might die before I see some crazy shit

>>509355587
>gods
>annunaki
Power level gap
>humans
Ty

There's a bunch of places that nowadays are 99.9% brown that used to be populated by white people.
There were redhaired people in the American continent by the time the first spaniards arrived. Mummies still there.
Same with china.
You can still find some white looking dudes in afghanistan/iran.

Brown/black people have never done shit. They are eternally retarded.

>>509355698
>saturn doesn't even emit visible light.
not anymore, it couldnt go glow mode anymore after entering the present Suns heliosphere.
>saturn doesn't even emit visible light.
Brown dwarfs are very faint, and radiate mainly in infrared light.
earth was also much closer to Saturn than it is to the Sun now and the light was reflected back from the heliosphere of Saturn so the light got into everywhere. thats why north and south pole were lush jungles.
>This is the guy who started the saturnian capture nonsense
nope actually he did not, all religions and civilizations predate him and they say Saturn was the sun.

>>509355585
that would be more impressive
>>509355919
I think they want to shut it down for like 100 years

>>509344187
Correct.

>>509356090
Yet the red haired Celtic tribes never built any pyramid structures, or really anything of note. They managed to build walls and stack rocks. Their culture and architecture are completely different than the places they supposedly went and civilized. They lived in literal huts while the places they supposedly created lived in cities. Makes sense. They travelled the sea (although they never had ships to do this), created civilizations that were all different from one another and themselves, and then decided to live like niggers in their homelands. Makes sense.

>>509356487
the celts built mounds and henges

>>509356090
Nice try, iberokike. The Spanish wrote the history books after burning the old codices. None of this we wuzing has any credence if you actually take a look at the bones left over

>>509356487
>red haired Celtic tribes

mohammed was a red-head

what are the implications?

>>509343708 (OP)
Beige gang represent, real Chaldean hours.

But nah fr its all just people living in old nephilim ruins. Old Babylon was just as gay as all the other Babylons.

>>509356114
it's really hard to take seriously the idea that a solar capture event wouldn't have immediately exterminated all forms of life more complicated than thermal vent bacteria. What happens while the Earth is slowly migrating away from saturn to its present location in the solar system? It's too cold for liquid water outside our Sun's goldilocks zone. All life would have frozen and died.

>earth was also much closer to Saturn than it is to the Sun now
saturns moons are next to saturn and they are all frozen solid

>Brown dwarfs are very faint, and radiate mainly in infrared light.
chlorophyll absorbs blue and red light.
vitamin D production requires UV light. a lot of insects can see into the UV.

>south pole was lush jungles
oh okay so we should just find bones and fossils of jungle creatures everywhere in antarctica then

>>509355495
Are you actually retarded?

The pillar has tanit symbolism all over it and the scorpion has all the same parts. This is what they are showing. A celestial event that that lived on through myths for many thousands of years. At a certain precision it looked like a scorpion with its tail acting as jacobs ladder. So yes, the scorpion would have been significant. This is also why the bull is significant. It looked like bull horns were surrounding the eye in the sky. Hence why the bull was drawn by most of the oldest cultures and there's this concept of the bull of heaven. You have no way to explain things like what tanit symbolism is or what the fuck is up with goddesses like hathor, one of the oldest egyptian dieties.

https://www.cleopatraegypttours.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Hathor-goddess.jpg

>>509356570
Yes, and good for them. Sadly this pales in comparison to the monuments build by other peoples around the world. How does it make any logical sense for them to travel the sea, create huge structures, but not have the ability to create these same structures in their homelands? Why would their culture and style be completely different not only between destinations and between homeland?
>>509356594
Mohammad was 100% not a redhead. Pheonicians were not Celtic redheads, they’re literally Semitic Jews from caanan.

>>509356910
>hathor goddess
>cites an egyptian goddess
>as prove of a (((carthgainian))) one

try again

>>509347655
They were nephilim, the same in the Egyptian old kingdom.

Lol lmao danaans are Irish.

>>509356115
>I think they want to shut it down for like 100 years
Why? there is no money to finish the escavation? they are waiting for better tech?

>>509356910
>muh cave paintings mean that an impossible cosmic event occurs
just go back to believing in demons
all you are is a christfag in denial

>>509357005
to "preserve it"
>>509356963
>How does it make any logical sense for them to travel the sea, create huge structures, but not have the ability to create these same structures in their homelands? Why would their culture and style be completely different not only between destinations and between homeland?
wait wut lol? I was just saying they built monuments to. I'm not into whatever narrative others push about prehistory.

>>509355691
The major religions that exist today never left saturn worship. Golbeki Tepe is old enough to tell the story of saturn being our sun with much greater accuracy than art that was made more from distant myths. The tanit symbol all over the pillars is a dead give away. Tanit is a symbol that shows the alignment of saturn/mars/venus back when saturn used to be our sun.

>>509357069
>>509356873
I’m glad there are non-retards this still post on this board.

>>509356570
Cute. Plains nigger tier. If humanity wasn’t so violent, there could have been room for simple cultures like these to coexist

>>509356963
>Mohammad was 100% not a redhead.
LOL

not only was he a redhead, he was considered
>EXTREMELY WHITE

looool

>>509350059
what do you mean tens of thousands of years laters modern humans and neaderthals were contemporary for thousans of years

>>509357137
Oh my bad, I thought you were piling on with that other retard

>>509356487
Ahem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kFbA9DMbJ4&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF8_VohlGSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ymwAoCEVS8&t

>You will never be Atlantean niggerface
and you do not belong in our lands. Fuck off back to India or Israel

>>509356487
If you are going to assume the irish just decided to travel around the world and build shit for the browns while doing nothing back at in Ireland, yeah it doesn't make much sense.
The problem is that Ireland was probably still mostly covered in ice 12000 years ago, so your whole scenario is retarded and indian

>>509351358
You had no usw for Gold, faggot, other than deoration for the faggots inca rulers. 99.9% of the inca indios were not using the gold and when SPAIN liberated them from FAGTAHUALPA, their lives became much better.
Also, some of you still talk Quechua because Spain preserved the grammar and Dokumenten it and turned into a Strukturen, written language, and nor only a "talked" dialect.

You are welcome, HUNTLEO.

>>509357207
No, just noting they had cool shit too. Plus their climate is much harsher to it doesn't preserve as well.
>>509357171
that was an impressive culture, what are you whining about?

>>509343708 (OP)

>>509349953
What else are you gonna do in a fucking desert but congregate around water sources and arable land and pasture? Its the exact environment that necessitates civilization, you fucking kike memeflag goober.

Every civilization morphed from this.
Atheists/larps will seethe.

>>509356873
>immediately exterminated all forms of life
clearly that didnt happen. lots of people were around to witness it thats why all their storys match up despite having zero contact to each other.
>It's too cold for liquid water outside our Sun's goldilocks zone.
no such thing as a goldilocks zone.
>All life would have frozen and died.
and many did, thats what the ice age was about.
>saturns moons are next to saturn and they are all frozen solid
they are now yes, doesnt mean this was always the case. as already explained Saturn was in glow mode back in the days.
>oh okay so we should just find bones and fossils of jungle creatures everywhere in antarctica then
they do.

>>509357187
Yeah, but there’s no indication that we adopted burial styles from them. It’s not like Neanderthals could influence people 35,000 years in the future in a location they never even inhabited. If it was a progressive trend we’d see it happening over time.

>the harappans were TOTALLY peaceful ya'll, they didn't even have an army; maybe a defense force tho.

seems, dubious..

>>509357304
Genesis is just the most well known flood myth, it's hardly the only one and isn't really unique.

>>509343708 (OP)
If only you knew

>>509350367
Aryans are subhuman cro-magnon coneheaded hunnic niggers that have exclusively raped and murdered whenever present in civilized lands. Stop believing Jewish propaganda and go witness the totality of Asiatic caucasian psychopathy yourself. They're a demonic slave race.

>>509343708 (OP)
Egypt was a colony of Atlantis and the omecs were an atlantian subculture like the egyptians but they got wiped out by the native Americans.

>>509357259
lol

>>509357379
lel that's fake as hell. especially considering you give no source for it

>>509357378
It's the most detailed and precise. Compare all the Flood stories. Genesis wins.

>>509357454
>It's the most detailed and precise
part of why it took on so popularly. it's not as allegorical as the others, even though it still has aspects that are.

>then, one day (for no reason at all!) many harappan cities were seemingly nuked or atleast burnt thoroughly to the ground so as to literally bake parts of the masonry together.

again, i have questions.

>>509357182
You didn’t post any actual sources. Show me an example from the source material (Quran) and I’ll believe you. Why the fuck would a white redhead exist in a scorched desert. Do you see white peoples there now? No, the mutation never developed cause they’d all die from cancer.
>>509357224
So you just post more bullshit that doesn’t explain or argue against any of my points. Ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3fq1c-sy7s&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1zeDmSRKFQ&t=7s

>>509357231
Those places weren’t built 12,000 years ago you dumb fuck. They were built well after the ice melted.

>>509357257
I meant comparatively speaking to bigger empires. But one could argue that the Celts and the Mississipians were already adequately adapted to their enviorment, and didn’t need further development. I’m saying I value these kinds of cultures, and wished they had been left alone to thrive

>>509354146
Saturn is the form of Uranus, dethroned by Zeus, reborn as Hermes to stab apollo for his mommy issues.

>>509357231
>goes back 12k years intentionally because those red-haired mummies (ocker) are 5k years old

>>509356967
I'm pointing out that you have no explanation for these symbols that these cultures around 5000+ years ago were spamming.

>>509357069
Oh, kiddo, it's so much more than cave paintings. Explain why Saturns water is so similar to ours, if we weren't much closer and connected at one point. Explain why we have so much water in the first place. Explain why plant life evolved to take in red and blue radiation if we weren't once covered in a purple glow. Explain why ancient civilizations referred to saturn as the sun. Explain why saturn was known as the ruler of the gods. Explain the shapes in the tanit symbol.

You can't. But yeah, I'm somehow a christfag in denial. I don't even know where you are getting that last part from. I'm not even a supporter of Christianity?

>>509355617
Translate ths image

>>509357568
the picture in my post has sources, pp

and you, being the paragon of virtue contrastingly have posted sources for your argument

now let's examine them...
>*crickets*
OH

you
HAVEN'T GIVEN PROOF OF SHIT

>>509353822
>>509354965
>The remnants of civilizations are not hard to miss
How far back in time can we go before it becomes impossible (with current technology) to determine if past civilizations existed? 10,000, 50,000, 100,000, or even 5 million years ago? If the pyramids had been built 10 million years ago, would any traces remain today? What about New York? If New York had been built 10 million years ago, would any traces remain today?

>>509343708 (OP)
You're forgetting a few, most notably Çatalhöyük (7500 BC)

>>509357443
Oh it’s real….

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJ3J5P3xLkk/

@aliencarvings on instagram

Aliencarvings on YouTube

>>509357727
Those are credible sources. Show me the text from the source material describing Muhammad as a red haired white man and I will believe you 100%, because in that case, that’s what the writer himself is telling us.

You can’t possibly be asking me to post a source proving that the Canaanite culture is from Canaan, are you? Get a grip buddy

>>509357824

>>509357717
>I'm pointing out that you have no explanation for these symbols that these cultures around 5000+ years ago were spamming.

which ones?

link to the posts you find objectionable and I'll gladly explain

>>509343708 (OP)
The whole list is bogus and for at least the first 3 we have no idea when the true real civilization was situated in time, it could've being ten thousand years ago, tens of thousands even hundreds of thousands of years ago as some would say about the oldest city on earth. The first city, is on the sumerian tablets.
This series of dates that you have is the status quo normative and narrative enforce dates but there's not that much evidences to confirmed that it's true. Is more like a case of them fitting what it feels acceptable on their minds for a vary of different reasons.

>>509354744
Noah landed on the northern end of a sinking doggerland bank, in what is now norway. West Semites patrilineal lines were extirpated from western europe by the aryan migration due to massive beta agriculturalist Hebrew admixture post Babel, but japhethite and hamite lines are still predominant in europe, up to the Urals, with a japhethites(nordics) typically running the show in northern, central, and western Europe. There's a lot of back and forth migrations back when the near East and Africa were greener, and Europe was colder.

>>509356580
You are jewish and gay.
Earliest known Nahuatl grammar was written in 1547
First English grammar was published in 1586

We went there, we domesticated those brown faggots, we put their languages in written form, we wrote down their legends, religions, rituals and beliefs. And we did it BEFORE you homosexual jewloving satanic inbreds created your OWN grammar.

>but you burned their codices
nigger they had no paper to burn, no written word, the most complex form of sending a message was knots on a mop. The fuck are you accusing others of cultural genocide when you albino monkeys were still trying to exterminate nomadic browntards in north america by the 1900s

>if you actually take a look at the bones left over
paracas skulls -> redhaired, dna closer to central euros than to native americans
scythian looking mummies in china, blonde
egyptian mummies, blonde and redhaired, dna matches with euros but not with current egyptians

Ancient world had more whites (or even mostly whites) in places where nowadays it's 99.999% browns. Nigger

>>509357896
>Those are credible sources
my sources or your sources?

>>509357896
>You can’t possibly be asking me to post a source proving that the Canaanite culture is from Canaan
i didn't ask you to make a strawman of my argument; you did that on your own

>>509356963
>Pheonicians were not Celtic redheads
i didn't say they were celts, i said they were redheads

whom are typically associated with celts and vikings

dumb dumb

>>509357772
I don’t know, but it’s crazy to think about. You’re telling me that the same human race that taught itself how to go to the moon in only 5,000 years, spent 300,000 years prior living in caves chucking spears? No fucking way

>>509357321
>clearly that didnt happen. lots of people were around to witness it thats why all their storys match up
clearly it didn't happen because there was no impossible solar capture. your "storys" are crude cave paintings

>no such thing as a goldilocks zone.
retarded?

>and many did, thats what the ice age was about.
ice ages happen because of the eccentricity and tilt of earth's orbit in combination with Earth's axial procession. All of this causes very subtle (+/- 5 centigrade) variations in temperature. Even if Earth was somehow warm enough to sustain life in its proximity to saturn, if it migrated through the orbit of jupiter, mars, dodged all the asteroids, and ended up where it is now, the temperature would have dropped by over 100 degrees C for many years. It's just not possible.

>they are now yes, doesnt mean this was always the case. as already explained Saturn was in glow mode back in the days.
what the fuck is "glow mode." Saturn was never massive enough to sustain fusion.

>they do.
they don't.


>>509357304
go back, brownoid

>>509357621
Yeah that's not my point and if you really don't get it by now I'm assuming you a retarded and smelly pajeet so i'm going to quit wasting my time talking with inferior subhumans

(no rupee) 509357568
Seeing the memes and watching the vids invalidates your bullshit. You provide proofs to counter mine or the myriad of others proofs exposing you for the bad faith shill you are. The People who brought your shitty caste system where white and you ugly nigger face ancestors where their bitch. It's exactly why your posting here on this site and living in their hard fought for lands. You were just brought by the worst humans in history to be slaves again and take it as win because you now have access to white ppl. Fuck off Sanjay/Mosshie, the Indus valley civilization was White; you can't or won't ever get over that because you're a Asian Abo everyone hates.

>>509358195
>Exclusively spiritually capable of percieving the sun's electromagnetic field
>Thinks an irradiated monkey on corn syrup and plastic is fully sane in the sense that genetically purer ancient humans were

>>509358195
>impossible
nothing about it is impossible. thats just your assumptions that it is.
>your "storys" are crude cave paintings
some of these cultures were fairly advanced, do you think the Babylonians for example would be dumb enough that they mistake Saturn for the Sun?
>retarded?
yes you are retarded because you subscribe to science that has failed.
>ice ages happen
the last once was caused by the capture event yes.
>what the fuck is "glow mode."
Stars are balls of plasma, plasma has 3 distinct stages. Dark Current mode, glow mode and arc mode.
stars are powered by electric currents not from within.

>>509357772
It depends entirely on what that civilization produced. If they existed in the last 100k years, we’d know. The presumption here is that these hypothetical ancients taught humanity stone carving, stone architecture and agriculture for example. This means these people would have practiced these same disciplines. If the stone tools from literal hunter-gatherers could last millions of years, you’d think the stone workings of a much more advanced culture would last just as long. You’d think we’d find some evidence of their crops, or there settlements.

>>509357682
Some are as young as 500 years old. The whole point is that we used to find those dudes in a lot of areas that nowadays they are no longer present. And they were the rulers, the people who got the fancy tombs, the people who got blue eyed statues, and the people who are described in the stories.
You faggots are trying so hard to pretend you don't get it, it's shamefully jewish.

>>509357717
If the Saturn sun only emitted purple light (red and blue), plants would have been invisible, or at least barely visible. You think plants were nearly invisible?

>>509356594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OghbMUSTaos

>>509358640
Are your cones referencing this light spectrum, or a different one? To deer, tigers are green. Google a pistol shrimp, what can he see that to you is invisible.

>>509358135
Your sources. Also, you were the one who implied I needed to provide sources for something that is common knowledge. I mean, I can if you really want. If there were voyages filled with red-haired people, they’d have to be of Celtic/germanic origin, they were the only population in history that had enough individuals with red hair to have a given sample represent a large population of red haired people. That would be basic stats.

>>509358621
>Some are as young as 500 years old.
lol

>>509358640
Also, Saturn used to funnel entirety into singularity in vibrational energy like a galactic bell, and their wasn't a 4th dimensional electrical current blocking everything above 3d perspective. Gravity itself was fundamentally less effected by electromagnetic impulse, because the reason this shit occured was a massive electric pulse that's still fading and reverberating.

>>509358924
>Also, you were the one who implied I needed to provide sources for something that is common knowledge.

if it's so common how come I'm not familiar and you can't provide a source?

>>509358349
You don’t have a point

>>509358195
The ice age was started by the Flood.
Your BS billions of years meme barely anyone believes anymore.
You aren't White.

>>509343708 (OP)
HISTORY is fake.

GIANTS were around a few hundred years ago, they stood 30' tall compared to modern Humans at 6'.

>>509358959
>lol i'm not aware of something so i'm going to mock people who are to disguise my stupidity
Yeah well keep being a retarded homosexual if you want people to think you aren't even white

>>509350830
These groups in your pic all plot close together on a PCA plot. The reason they do so, is very simple.

All of these groups had a recent common ancestor, that went through some type of genetic bottleneck after hitting the jackpot genetically for intelligence.

They are all ancestors of Europeans btw.

>>509359260
then provide proof of that
Looks like you were not aware of blue-eyed bulls

>>509359177
Sigh, just read the wiki, man. It will tell you how the Phoenicians of Canaan originated in the land of Canaan (duh doy).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_history

>>509358924
You're looking at modern populations as if they're a full representation of ancient ones, there's very, very few unmixed people. You can find red hair in Arabs dude, they all had it from a common adamite ancestor, and various groups exhibit different traits. Celtic people often have hooded eyes and Episcopal folds, similar to many groups of Asians, which would be unusual for the westernmost Europeans if it wasn't a straight shot north from North Africa. A lot of European features are also neanderthal features in origin.

>>509358740
Our cone cells are evolved for this light spectrum. Are you implying our eyes evolved so rapidly that they developed entirely new structures in just a few thousand years?

>>509359245
>history is fake

i always see a poster say this when kikes are getting owned about being the first gypsies kicked out of india

>>509359339
i never said phoenicians weren't canaanites you absolute brainlet kike

>>509357717
>Explain why Saturns water is so similar to ours
Because Earth's water came from beyond Jupiter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHavUyegTM


>Explain why plant life evolved to take in red and blue radiation if we weren't once covered in a purple glow.
If you're asking why chlorophyll absorbs visible light instead of UV or infrared, then it's because visible light is the highest energy light that isn't damaging to cellular machinery. If a plant tried to harvest UV light, its pigments would likely get cleaved by the very wavelengths it tried to harvest. Plants synthesize sacrificial flavinoids and other molecules with conjugated systems that act as sunscreen.

If you're suggesting that a planet bathed in a purple glow had no green light reaching its surface, then you're retarded. Our sky is blue because of rayleigh scattering in the upper atmosphere, not because all of the green and red wavelenghts are absorbed.
>But yeah, I'm somehow a christfag in denial. I don't even know where you are getting that last part from.
Because your worldview is not based on evidence but on fantasy. You believe in Electric Jewniverse because it makes you feel good, not because it's correct. This is the same reason Christtards believe what they do.

>>509359245
Nephilim worship is literally gay >>509359456
I'm saying most of our DNA is from slave races genetically modified by nephilim, and we aren't the same humans we were.

>>509357976
Just start by explaining to me why tanit symbol is often drawn so differently. Why is the crescent moon under some times. Over some times etc... What are they trying to say with each shape?

Why did so many ancient cultures independent from each other worship a bull. Such as hathor, again with the eye surrounding the horns. Athena and her bull too. Why are enlil and baal both bulls? What is the bull? Why do muslims have this same shape as their symbol of worship? A star surrounded by horns/cresent moon?

>>509359013
>Also, Saturn used to funnel entirety into singularity in vibrational energy like a galactic bell, and their wasn't a 4th dimensional electrical current blocking everything above 3d perspective.

>>509359431
Well, you know we can look at the genetics of ancient people too, right? Pretty sure even thousands of years ago there weren’t many middle easterners with the mutation for red hair.

>>509359531
Agreed,, imo MAN genetically created Humans from mixing life in this Realm. Nephilim were bigger

>>509359575
>Just start by explaining to me why tanit symbol is often drawn so differently.
because the people that practiced such profane kikery lived far apart

but they always got the typical core shape right, with very little variance

what's your point?

>>509359506
>because it makes you feel good
its backed by hard physical evidence. also you are an ignorant butthurt jew.

>>509359613
>Nigger cannot perceive reality from a 9th dimensional perspective, presumes reality is all just a linear 3rd dimensional material box.

Imagine my shock

>>509352465
>Mutt flag
>Call others jew lover
Holy muttoli

>>509359457
You literally implied they weren’t Semitic people and instead were some red haired whites lmao?

>>509356963
Well now I know for sure you're shilling.
Why would jews being present in a society mean that that society was wholly made up of jews? Jews are parasites by nature, always have been. They have never invented anything of great value, ever conquered through arms, ever cultivated land, colonized and settled new cities, or explored the world. The Phoenicians did. Calling them all jews would be like people from the year 4000 calling all Americans jews, or all Germans, English, Romans, Russians, or any other Aryan civilization that had jews in it subverting it at any point in it's history.

>>509359245
True. I never quite understood how giants could exist but the saturn theory accounts for it. Back when saturn was our sun our gravity was different. EVERYTHING was bigger. Saturns rule was mythologically known as a time of incredibly prosperity, despite how much of a dick he sounds. It's possible during saturns rule, there were garden of eden type conditions. Constant light and vegetation so big no one ever had to worry about starving.

>>509359575
>Why did so many ancient cultures independent from each other worship a bul

because they were at the very least economically linked, and ancients knew that a lot of nutrition could be derived from meat from the ancient aurochs
>predecessor ot modern cows
and they were highly valued for this attribute, especially cow's milk

this being the reason why whitey isn't lactose intolerant, but much of the rest of the world is

>>509346987
Quetzalcoatl was a luciferian Venus fag.

>>509348639
kek you're a caananite

>>509359722
There were fucking plenty, they got darker much more recently than you think, and there are plenty of groups across the near East and North Africa that are still very definitely white, like Kabyle berbers, and many tribes of bedouins.

>>509359813
>You literally implied they weren’t Semitic people
even if i DID

i said, TWICE now, making it clear to you or anyone else reading my comments

>>509359457
>i never said phoenicians weren't canaanites

>>509358135
>i didn't say they were celts, i said they were redheads
>whom are typically associated with celts and vikings

apparently you like making gay strawman arguments out of other people's points but can't back them up for shit

>>509359792
Why are you trolling, faggot? Get better hobbies.

Is this what it was like thousands of years ago in the Greek debate halls? We’d just get random faggots who like to troll for fun.

>>509344677
Look it up, its official name for historians is "pre-denovian" times

>>509359813
Canaanites are hamitic, not Semitic, we all fucking hate them. Also, hamites are often very fair skinned, moreso than Semites.

>>509359832
They say Devils Tower was a giant tree. One of 7 in this realm that were chopped down so we couldn't escape the flood.

>>509360058
proofs plz

>>509360081
this is retarded LOL

>that extinct volcano cone that resembles a chopped down tree
>sitting all by itself
>it was the only tree to leave evidence of it's existence

>>509360016
Imagine 3 axis.

Now, imagine 4 axis.

Now, imagine 5 axis.

No googling, do it in your head.

>>509359828
Well, they’re Semitic Levantines who share ancestry with Jews. They are basically just northern Jews, actually. They’re Jews.

>>509359319
Nah I'll pass, you are an arrogant internet homosexual and you can find that shit for yourself if you are interested in verifying.
If not interested, then there is no need for me to waste my time either

>>509359949
how recent?

>>509359792
gene ray did it better than any of you niggers

>>509360246
I respectfully accept your concession, Sirs.

>>509344187
this

>>509359993
How about you show actual proof they were red haired and white skinned. Surely there’s some genetic study out there showing a good enough amount of them had the alleles present that would create a red haired, white skinned man. Show them. I can show studies showing the genetic closeness between modern and ancient canaanites/levantines, which certainly do not have red hair or white skin.

>>509360100
Canaan was a literal descendant of ham, they're closer to Libyans, Egyptians, Anatolians, Thracians etc. Semites are Arabs, Berbers, arameans, Sardinians, Cretans, and Celtic matrilineal dna(I posit Mr bean). These sandnigger differences are resolvable, kikes made it everyone's problem, we all thought Rome solved it, I'm just trying to get us all on track here, pal. Unifying the entire world against the shithead breeds is reaching sea people levels.

>>509359506
Good try.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_water_on_Earth

They don't know where earths water comes from. One thing we do know is that it's remarkably similar to saturns

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/a3v99h/the_water_in_saturns_rings_and_moons_is/

>If you're asking why chlorophyll absorbs visible light instead of UV or infrared, then it's because visible light is the highest energy light that isn't damaging to cellular machinery. If a plant tried to harvest UV light, its pigments would likely get cleaved by the very wavelengths it tried to harvest. Plants synthesize sacrificial flavinoids and other molecules with conjugated systems that act as sunscreen.

Plants evolved specifically to take in red and blue light aka purple because that's what they bathed in for most of their evolutionary history. It's that simple. If they were exposed to other forms of light, that would be their diet. They evolved to grow through purple light.

>>509360166
I can manage 4 but 5 is kind of inconceivable to me, I’ll be honest. I’m just above 2 standard deviations based on my test results, I’m not Einstein. Actually, I bet even that 200+ IQ gook couldn’t do it.

>>509360473
water is H2O, Hydrogen and Oxygen, the earths plasma core produces it.

>>509360285
The last time you could see blonde people walking around in Iraq was probably pre-assyrian. Fair Semites used to be very common, molochites prefer to sacrifice us over darker featured potential sacrifices, now they do so to Nordic children for the same symbolic anunnaki worshipping horseshit. Slavs are mimics of nordics, same principle.

The real enduring features are shit like green eyes and pale skin, blue veins, that's what's left of it in Semitic populations now, and basically all Arabs are racist about it to the effect of putting 19th century phrenologists to shame.

>>509360153
Has a root system beneath measured at 4 miles deep, 7 miles wide.
Looks more like a petrified mushroom to me.. Columnar basalt looking.

>>509360417
cool

now give me some sources

>>509360398
>How about you show actual proof they were red haired and white skinned.
yeah let me just get a fucking picture someone from 1200 BC took with their iphone

i gave you proof of multiple sources that, at the very LEAST, mohammed, was supposedly
>EXTREMELY WHITE
lel

but also
>red haired
>>509357182

then i linked phoenicians with vikings based on the very similar design of their ships
>>509356594

and that's NOT TO SAY vikings were proto-kikes, but that doesn't mean ancient proto-kikes DIDN'T trade with them by sea, which they did

that's why
>runic
is so similar to
>PUNIC

now that I've repeatedly given you proof of shit i already answered, but you continue to not prove shit for anything you've said, i accept you concession

>>509360821
all you did was make a collage of some bullshit that doesn't even have any labels or a source

you didn't even label devil's tower for fucks sake

>>509360634
Its not that hard, accordion an axis for 4, open the curtain and walk in that direction back and fro in 5. Above that is where it's immaterial, generally speaking, 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 are all more spacially complete than 2 4 6 8. It all starts from one as a fraction of infinity, so it's basically counting down from up.

None of this is bullshit, it's not helpful either.

Quetzalcuckold. Imagine your god being a setup for Cortes to come around later a fuck all your women. Kinda fucked up.

>>509360887
Those weren’t credible sources retard. You can’t even show me the text from the Quran describing Muhammad as white skinned and red haired. Just fuck off already if you’re gonna be a stinky shitter

>>509359730
Na, same cultures drew it differently. It's showing the movement of the 3 celestial bodies. The eye is saturn, the horns are venus and body would be the light that mars radiates.

Some times it would look like a huge giant woman figure in the sky with her arms outstretched and facing up hence why tanit was a mother goddess. This was a huge celestial event in the sky that evenyone around the world could see. Hence why people so far apart worshipped her.

>>509360939
kek..I didn't make that.https://studiousguy.com/devils-tower-root-system/

>>509360887
Nah faggot go play for team kike. Canaanites are scum cunts, conflating the tribe of Dan's escapades in the Atlantic bronze age is just fucking gay. They literally happened one after the other with direct correlation to the resolution of one to the flight of the other, kike ffs.

>>509361007
What you described is still just a 3D object

>>509361049
>wah i refuse to accept your sources
which sources? link to the post for the sources you don't agree with

and IF you can, prove them wrong

don't be a sniveling, mincing demon worshiper and be like
>pff
>w-w-w-WHATEVER
>GOY
and fold your arms up all pouty

>>509361065
>same cultures drew it differently

i literally fucking said that

>>509361109
>say kike show some proof
>naw

lel

>>509360081
Tree = the ladder of heaven that used to radiate down from the saturn/venus/mars alignment. Once our current sun captured us, that tower was indeed destroyed. Hence why giants couldn't be born anymore. They were born from the gravity conditions of when saturn was our sun.

>>509361166
Why do you keep deflecting from the fact that you can’t even cite the source text that describes Muhammad as being red haired and white skinned?

>>509361166
post source of Mohammed being white with red hair. Now, for the sake of ending this back and forth.

>>509348602
Yup they were pakis

>>509361295
>Why do you keep deflecting from the fact that you can’t even cite the source text that describes Muhammad as being red haired and white skinned?

last time retard, right here, you sad butthurt kike that can't prove shit
>>509357182
LOOK AT THE PICTURE
IN THAT POST
LOOK AT IT
ignored

>>509361075
Your source literally says it’s a hoax, fucker didn’t even read it and just pasted

>>509350830
Sumerians are likely descendants of the Ubaids. They didn't speak an IE language either

>>509361391
>post source of Mohammed being white with red hair.

see
>>509361406

>>509360769
Explain why saturn and earths water are incredibly similar despite being so far apart.

>>509361444
>saturn and earths water

LOL prove there's a seperate source of water on saturn retard!

it's made of highly compressed gasses that turn to liquid the further toward the planet's center you go

>>509361406
>reddit and Facebook posts with literally no primary sources to back their claim

Nigger, this is like you sending me a link of you saying Muhammad was red haired and white in some other thread and claiming it’s a source of proof. The fuck?

>>509361158
No I didnt, you cannot spread an axis in a 3d context, what you're discovering is that even dimensions are spacially incomplete in their own sense. Like how you can easily from a 3d perspective look at 2d, but can't see in 2d.

Take acid if you wanna see 4d, take dmt if you wanna see 8d, die while gay if you wanna see 2d, huff spider killer or take datura for 6d, and take mushrooms and you can perceive in and from as many singular points or as many dimensions from 1 to infinity as you want, you'll eventually figure out which ones are fractionally stable.

>>509361406
He wasn't white he just had fair skin and he didn't have red hair he had black hair according to authentic Hadith.

>>509361411
The source is of the image you requested moran.

>>509360186
>address nothing, circular logic
You're giving the jews credit for being exploring, conquering, language creating warrior kings. You also have 50 posts. Shalom

>>509361541
Yes you did. You’re the shit head troll from the Ancient Greek debates. At least troll someone else so I can enjoy it

>>509361444
earth was created by saturn

>>509361581
I’m not the same guy moran

>>509361242
Literal common fucking knowledge, and only kikes try to muddy the waters between Semites and hamites.

>>509361530
>>509361569

all y'all are baby bitches

suck it up, pussy

>>509361653
>Literal common fucking knowledge
so common you've got no proof

LOL

>>509361647
I see that now.

>>509361530
>>509361569

>>509361615
Many were an exploring, conquering, language creating warrior culture. Then a bigger fish came along. Same shit happened to the Phoenician's, who cares.

I thought da joos were controlling the world, anyway? Which is it, are they pathetic weaklings or are they world dominators?

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>>509361798
>joos
mask off right before 404, how smug are you chicken swingers lulz

>>509361710
Dumb shit. He used henna.

>>509361710
Okay and what about the greater number of other accounts of Muhammad having black hair?

>>509361618
Nigger I have you a literal map of the plemora. I speedran kaballah and gave you a cliff notes. Go fuck yourself.

>>509361506
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/how-did-earth-get-its-water

"To get water, Earth had to have help from somewhere else."

"Well before the rocky planets formed, recent research suggests, ice-infused asteroids were forged beyond Jupiter and subsequently swarmed the inner solar system. These space rocks delivered water to Vesta and to Earth after being hurled at our planet by the gravity of Jupiter and Saturn."

They are so close here. You just need to slightly piece things together here with the esoteric knowledge. So we know Saturns water is remarkably similar to ours but that shouldn't be with our current model of the galaxy. It's because Saturn and earth were much close at the time earth received its water.

>>509361916
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>>509362046
Yeah he was fair so what? Many Arabs are fair. There are many pakis that are fair and actually have blue eyes and blonde hair too. But he was a black haired fair skinned Arab. Not uncommon.

>>509362024
>well before the rocky planets formed

far fucking cry from
>saturn has the same water as earth

might as well say
>the same gasses found on saturn
>are also found on earth
>but in different quantities
>and they got them
>during the formation of the solar system

YOU DON'T SAY

>>509343708 (OP)
There is only one original culture.

>>509361801
The reasonings behind that are poorly kept. Ham raped his own mother, and fathered amor, who was raised in Noah's house.

Hamites are almost all weedy happy merchant perverted crooks.

>>509362046
lol white AND ELEGANT no less

hahaha

>>509362123
>Yeah he was fair so what?
fair?

it says
>WHITE
>>509362046
it doesn't say
>FAIR
IT
SAYS
>WHITE
>>509362046
READ IT AGAIN

i accept your concession

>>509362206
Fair is equivalent to white. Are these pic rel pakis white or fair?

>>509362124
The water on saturn and earth is unique lol

Are you a brown or something? You are coming across low IQ.

https://www.astronomy.com/science/the-saturn-system-has-water-just-like-earths-except-for-phoebe/

For example, saturn has a newer moon called phoebe that it captured that has vastly different concentrations in its water. Different concentrations because that moon did not receive water from saturn like earth did during its development.

>>509360473
>They don't know where earths water comes from.
The leading theory is that it came from the protoplanetary disk. But the water concentration was (and still is) higher at a distance of several A.U. Earth should be bone dry based on its distance from the sun. Early in the formation of the solar system, miniplanets that were rich in water were influenced by Jupiter's gravity. They both collided with one another and migrated inwards, eventually forming the Earth. This whole process took hundreds of millions of years, unlike the Saturnian capture that you EU niggers think apparently happened over the course of an afternoon


>Plants evolved specifically to take in red and blue light aka purple because that's what they bathed in for most of their evolutionary history.
Yeah, the blue and red light that comes from the Sun and which has come from the Sun for the past 4 billion plus years. Plants also produce other pigments that capture green light by the way. You see them when the leaves lose their chlorophyll. But also any plant with red flowers is absorbing green light in its petals.

again you're a complete retard nigger if you think not only that a planetary capture could happen in a few years, but that all of the fundamental biological machinery of every organism on the planet could adapt so quickly.


>>509360769
>the earths plasma core produces it.
earth has a molten iron and nickel core you absolute nigger

>>509362278
we know full well mohammad wasn't a paki

lel

>>509362206
Dude, arabs are counted as white in the US. You think they themselves called themselves brown? The term "white" got a lot narrower in recent years due to Americans

>>509362372
>the-saturn-system-has-water-just-like-earths

>>509362124
>might as well say
>>the same gasses found on saturn
>>are also found on earth
>>but in different quantities
>>and they got them
>>during the formation of the solar system
>YOU DON'T SAY

>>509362411
that's right kike just keep changing your argument when you get schooled

yes, i know the US government classifies them that way

they also erroneously classify canaanites like yourself as human

what's your point?

>>509362383
Exactly. Are these pakis white according to you?

>>509362484
My point is that the term "white" was a lot broader in the past. And autistic americans and anglos are the reason it now only goes for northwest europeans. Previously it was pretty much synonymous with CAUCASIAN.

>>509362496
you might find this just CRAZY but

when mohammaed existed, the "modern" muslim state of
>pakistan
didn't exist

do you see the flaw in your argument?

also don't those folks come from fucking AFGHANISTAN? or at the VERY LEAST, the very fringes of modern pakistan's borders?

>>509362578
if you're going to make a "point"

provide a source

>>509343708 (OP)
Nigger

>>509362377
>The leading theory is that it came from the protoplanetary disk. But the water concentration was (and still is) higher at a distance of several A.U. Earth should be bone dry based on its distance from the sun. Early in the formation of the solar system, miniplanets that were rich in water were influenced by Jupiter's gravity. They both collided with one another and migrated inwards, eventually forming the Earth. This whole process took hundreds of millions of years, unlike the Saturnian capture that you EU niggers think apparently happened over the course of an afternoon

Leading theory means that they don't know. They just have some ideas. And they aren't working from an idea that saturn, with its water incredibly similar to ours, was once our sun and exerted an incredible influence on the way we lived. Hence why saturn was worshipped as king of gods.

>>509362377
>Yeah, the blue and red light that comes from the Sun and which has come from the Sun for the past 4 billion plus years. Plants also produce other pigments that capture green light by the way. You see them when the leaves lose their chlorophyll. But also any plant with red flowers is absorbing green light in its petals.

You're being very obtuse about this. No amount of screaming retard or nigger will help that.

Why did plants specifically evolve for red and blue aka purple light?

>>509362377
>earth has a molten iron and nickel core you absolute nigger
no it doesnt, you once again fell for jewish tricks.

>>509362024
>the esoteric knowledge
MUH ESOCTERIC SECRETS
people who think they are smarter than they are always go for stupid feelgood fantasy shit

>>509362124
>YOU DON'T SAY
no no, you have to throw in bullshit by some turn-of-the-century kike science fiction author that only a few people know about. because if everyone knew about it then it wouldn't be true. The funny things is that if everyone in the world suddenly accepted the EU theory, then the EU proponents would find something else to believe in because their theory would have become too popular. It's just hipsterism in the venue of astrophysics.

>>509362706
what's the core made from then?

don't forget your source

>>509362653
If Muhammed was White, then where the fuck did all the brown people come from and how was Egypt browner prior to that?>>509360285

>>509362749
>no no, you have to throw in bullshit by some turn-of-the-century kike science fiction author that only a few people know about.

what in the ass are you talking about?

are you saying the solar system didn't form out of a big cloud of dust and gas and bullshit?

ok then how did the planets form?

im not even an atheist or a science humper - I believe in Jesus and God, i'm just going off of what the supposed infinite wisdom of the sciences says the origin of the solar system is

so how was it formed then?

>>509360809
there are plenty of blonde people still in iraq even gingers occasionally.

>>509362781
already explained it, also you are illiterate anyway and a butthurt jew.

>>509362799
you probably believe that the US is still full of native americans and that they weren't in just about every possible way completely genocided from north america - because one population being supplanted by another foreign population is impossible

NEW THREAD

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