Thread 509352270

National strength is human strength.

You can't be strong if everyone is poor.

>>509352270 (OP)

Shut up commie. We can't fight anyone when have commie traitors in our country that haven't been killed yet.

>>509352378
It's probably a big part of it.

>>509352270 (OP)
I'm sure the hastily-assembled Chinese Navy is just as reliable as Chinese everything else.

>>509352270 (OP)
Chinabots huffing on that copium while they're sitting on an over 300% debt to GDP ratio, if anyone can't afford a war or anything else it's China.

>>509352378
what would the US even gain from a war with China
the entire idea sounds stupid

>>509352270 (OP)
If you think Americans being broke does not unite the people against other nations, boy are you about to learn something.
The whole zoomer generation was bred and educated to fight WW3. They're violent, short tempered and proud of their ignorance.

>>509352480
200 years ago. The last several regional wars have proven entire fleets can be thrown into chaos with Wish.com drones.

>>509352270 (OP)
CCP green hats won't do shit.

>>509352550
A reliable trade partner once the CPC leadership is replaced with the RoC leadership

>>509352677
you could never win it anyway

>>509352421
Miga cope

>>509352270 (OP)
When China can effectively operate 12 super carriers with 80 aircraft a piece I'll acknowledge their military. Having a navy of 5,000 ships and 4,500 of those are coast guard vessels and fishing ships is not impressive.

>>509352270 (OP)
Who says we would fight in the war. We are Israel bitch we will continue funding them for ever MIGA.

>>509352270 (OP)
>blow up Three Gorges Dam
>Chinese eat each other
>victory

>>509352746
If the conditions of the war were repelling a Chinese invasion attempt on Taiwan, we could win that.
The US military can sink the majority of China's surface fleet as well, and blockade the Strait of Malacca. Would it be worth the loss in human life? No.

>>509353197
right
but you couldnt invade China and impose a friendly regime
but neither could China the other way around

>>509353197
americans can't beat the houthis goat herders lol, you expect me to believe shaniqua in an arleigh burke can defeat 10x chinese ships manned by ruthless cunning chinks? lol

>>509353345
>but neither could China the other way around
The Amerimutt is mistaken.
China can do the same to Taiwan as Iran did to Israel.
They just choose not to.

Western arrogance will only hurt the west.

>>509353695
>thirdie with an American VPN
Houthis surrendered. America doesn't need to go ship to ship with the Chinese, we have a massive number of long range anti-ship cruise missiles on bombers that can be launched from up to 1000 kilometers away. The B-52H can carry twenty of them.

>>509353915
>bombers that can be launched from up to 1000 kilometers away
Bombers are for stationary targets, not for moving targets.

>>509353695
>>509353915
Not even that, we have aircraft carriers with aircraft that can carry anti-ship missiles. We can stay out of range of the chinese weapons while deploying ours from the relative safety of aerial refueling and air superiority. The J-20 isn't even stealth from the sides or rear so the chinks better hope we only come at them from one direction.

>>509354262
>thirdie education
Well, here in America, our bombers kill Chinese ships with anti-ship missiles.

>>509354262
>B-1B has entered the chat

>>509354349
>We can stay out of range of the chinese weapons
Your bases are not out of range.

It's going to be the am result as Iran vs israel.
the difference is The Chinese will want revenge an your blood, unlike the Iranians.

>>509352548
they have hard assets (industrial power) though and they print their own currency. that shit does NOT matter when these conditions are true.

>>509354597
With 20 something Aegis destroyers parked in their backyard it's pretty hard to launch anything besides an ICMB, if it comes to that the entire world is fucked.
>SM-3 has entered the chat

>>509354597
>We are arming the DongFeng 26 missile
>Sure do home nobody sends a Tomahawk cruise missile to blow up my launcher
>oh nooo

>>509354729
>With 20 something Aegis destroyers parked in their backyard
I hope their homo sailors can swim all the way back to shore, because those boats will all sink.

>>509352270 (OP)
WW2 came from the depression.

>>509354854
Highly doubtful, china doesn't have near the sophistication of the Aegis system. An F-35 500 miles forward can relay target data to the Aegis equipped ship and the ship then launches a missile at a threat it can't see. China can't even integrate their air force let alone their navy.

>>509354729
icbms are pretty easy to intercept actually. they have a predictable trajectory up until they reach mid course phase then are predictable again in terminal phase. the entire reason mirv's exist is to overwhelm defenses because they can easily be shot down. as far as i know the usa has a successful interception rate of midcourse phase icbms now. you gotta understand that it's not just aegis, if icbms are launched, which we will be able to detect before they do, all of our air is scrambled and will be used to intercept those icbms with the help of aegis while we launch our own icbms

>>509352270 (OP)
We know China's fleet is floating garbage, the word JUNK exists only because of their Navy.

We can assume their fleet will fall apart after 100km, because, we'll, they're chinks

>picrel
>we have 11+ of these
>china can't show photos

>>509352677
China is already our #1 trading partner
We like to shake our spears at each other a lot but both sides know there would be absolutely no benefit to open hostilities
It’s all just theater to keep the masses preoccupied and focus their anger externally

>>509352270 (OP)
1pbtid. OP is once again a raging homo. This board is dead. Thanks gookmoot. I hope someone saws your fucking head off.

>>509355047
>Highly doubtful
No, you are highly doubted.

The reality is you have no plan against China, all your confidence is only for show and posture.
If you could regime change China, you would have already done so in 1989 when you tried and failed.

>>509355132
The Chinese know we're not going to initiate a war, so waving their dicks around and saber rattling Taiwan is an effective tactic to save face at home despite all of their economic shortcomings.
It's exactly what KJU does in NK to maintain power.

>>509352270 (OP)
>Stop gibbing gibs to Yurup, Leafland, and Beanerville.
>Become everybody-gets-a-mansion rich overnight.
>Bankers don't want you to know this one trick.

>>509355245
America definitely has a plan to deal with China.
It's more than half of what the Pentagon wargames. There are plans, weapons, integration, things like the Chesty Puller which can serve as a FOB/resupply ship, fast attack subs with tomahawk missiles, tomahawk stockpiles, JASSM-ERs, LRASMs, you think we build those to keep the MIC happy?
Of course you don't, you're some filthy paki who can't think.

>>509355245
>cites military tech
>gets called show and posture

Look, I can tell you're a low level, write the political poems in the commune type of guy so I'll break it down for you a little clearer:

Chinese weapons tech is still decades behind the US. We've proven it again and again, and china knows this, which is why they don't move on Taiwan.

>>509355256
>The Chinese know we're not going to initiate a war
Initiating war is the only thing you are good at.

Iran should always suspect israel will initiate war,
Russia should always suspect EU will initiate war,
China should always suspect You will initiate war,

>>509355540
>dumb shit thirdies think
The quality of your education is lacking.

>>509355540
I don't know what's sadder, the inaccuracy of your posts or the fact that you actually believe them.

>>509355510
>Chinese weapons tech is still decades behind the US
Nah, your weapons are worthless, you would have taken over China by now if you could.

>>509355651
Those are facts, Mutt.

When you propped up Ukraine and attacked Iran, you at the same time taught China they need to prepare for the war.

>>509353043
This. China touts a "larger" navy because they require all chinese shipbuilders to meet military specifications like the tensile strength of the decks ect, not stealth or weapons specs. If you were to actually employ those fishing trawlers/ cargo ships against the American navy it would be a shit show.

>>509355659
Why would we take over china? That's a ridiculous thing to suggest. We only want to keep Taiwan independent, which has been going great for almost a century.
>Nah, your weapons are worthless

How many Aircraft carriers does china have?
How many strategic stealth bombers?
How many stealth aircraft period?

You can't even compare something as basic as counting on your hands, how am I supposed to take your assertions seriously? This is just pure thirdie cope from an impotent poverty dweller with hopes of being a commissar in the revolution of whatever shithole you're in.

>>509352677
RoC doesn't want to become China, they gave that up in the 90s. Neither of the 2 major parties in Taiwan want it, one party wants Taiwanese independence with the goal of becoming another Japan/S.Korea/Singapore while the other party wants to reunify under the CCP.

>>509355451
>America definitely has a plan to deal with China.
Nah, your general in charge of Japan propose to flood south China sea with mines, but he didn't know what to do afterwards, he asked his colleagues and they didn't know either.

The sad reality is your army and navy will till sit down, do nothing, and b unproductive and drain away your wealth.

>>509352270 (OP)
That image is retarded America has naval assets all over the planet and infrastructure to support them

>>509355788
The US has never supported a regime change in china, it's against our bottom dollar, we prefer the chinese people poor and working in sweat shops. you're deluded.

>>509354597
Revenge for what?

>>509356089
>The US has never supported a regime change in china
The colour revolution attempt in 1989 says otherwise, Muttlard.

>>509356033
>General
>in charge of Naval Warfare
Where do you get your information, comic books?

>>509355256
oh they're definintely going to war. and we'll get entangled with it.

>>509356118
Presumably the century of humiliation since we get blamed for it for some reason.

>>509356155
>Tiananmen square was the CIA!
You sure about that, genius?

>>509355996
>Why would we take over china?
The same reason why you want to take over Russia and Iran.

>>509356033
Ok, how many decades ago whoever say that? That's retarded, and nobody would ever do that. We don't have a general in charge of Japan.

>>509352378
literally yes. And missiles. People are largely irrelevant now since they literally are just placeholders for territory to get droned in this new gay warfare

>>509356240
Except we want neither of those things as well....

I think you spend too much time on communist revolutionary websites. You're all propaganda and no facts.

>>509356273
>Ok, how many decades ago
This decade.

pretty much
war is waged for the rich and the price socialized down on to the poor & middle-class
they've impoverished the middle-class and sunk the poor in to tribalist race wars
the kike oligarchs simply cannot mobilize a war effort in the USA any more. they've weakened the country too much with their greed and their malice

>>509352516
Yeah keep telling yourself that when we're outnumbered on land, sea, and in the air.

you forgot how obedient people were during covid?

>>509356313
So this decade we installed a general in charge of naval warfare secretly and then secretly removed him?

Third world education everyone.

>>509356306
>w-we don't want to tart wars an conquer the world
>i promise
Tell that to the Iranians and Russians who died under your attacks.

>>509356342
Except we aren't. Look at the true chinese naval makeup. something like 90% of their navy is small and mid sized craft. They don't even have as many 4th gen fighters as we do and we have something like 400% of their 5th gen.

>>509355115
Two of those are under maintenance at any one time. At least two (possibly three) protect Israel. One fucks around in the Atlantic.
China isn’t at parity yet with what the US could feasibly muster in the Pacific but they’re getting scarily close.

>>509352550
Bruh do you know history at all? Jewish bankers have been orchistrating wars between europeans to both destroy us and make money off of our deaths. They have written about it, we have written about it, everyone around the world fucking knows about it except normalfags

>>509356414
Billy, get off the internet. This is your mom and I'm super mad right now.

>>509356414
lmao what russians died from American attacks? Are you drunk?

>largest airforce
>field proven weapons

Chiners lack of a bluewater navy and functioning AAA makes it a wash

>>509356520
Your hands are the ones guiding the precision missiles in Ukraine.

Why are you even denying this in the first place?
No matter what I say, the Chinese will be fully prepared to war against you.
You will b able to pull an Israel-Iran on them.

>>509355256
The Chinese are probably banking on the US initiating a war in the death throes of an empire similar to how the UK and France were desperate to initiate war against Germany in 1939 to disastrous consequences.
America today looks a hell of a lot like the British Empire did in the mid 1930s.

>>509356818
This idea that precision weapons require American operators is pretty low IQ. It's not how precision weapons work. You don't link to satellites and American radar to fire a HIMARS. You can dumb fire them with a map and compass if you want. This just proves you don't know what you're talking about with military technology and we can discard everything you say as propaganda.

>>509353197
Lol! We couldn't even beat the fucking Houthis or Iran, and you think we can beat China at anything? American exceptionism is dead. Grow up.

>>509352421
You'll do what israel tells you lmao.

>>509353197
They've been developing land based alternatives (including rail links and pipelines) to be able to satisfy their energy and material need should the Strait of Malacca be blocked in a conflict.

The Chinese have been playing the long game and you burgers are too foolish to notice how the chess board is being setup piece by piece against you.

>>509357075
>precision weapons require American operators is pretty low IQ
Your operators, your stateliest.

The idea that you can trick China into being unprepared for war by convincing a random person in 4chan is what is truly low IQ.
They will be fully prepared for your attack.

>>509357260
What happens when the chinese fleets of fishing boats are defeated? Do we just turn around and leave them alone?

>>509357075
>>509357300
*your satellites

>>509354597
I'm pretty sure that vid is AI, only because I assume China would use the same cold launch procedure as the Iranians. Compressed gas is used the the initial liftoff, then the rocket is ignited once it is safely off the pad/out of the silo.
Either way, Chinese missile and anti missile tech is probably 30-50 years beyond America's.

>>509352516
>I'm sure the hastily-assembled Chinese Navy is just as reliable as Chinese everything else.
Soviet "good enough" absolutely steamrolled german over-engineering in WW2.

>>509352270 (OP)
>1pbtid. OP is a jewniggerfaggot.
Quit replying to these threads guys or learn how to report them . Wishing death upon gookmoot for truly destroying this place. 8kun is much better

>>509357300
Bro. You can literally look up the targeting specifics online. This is free information you can read instead of being a moron online. Americans aren't firing missiles at russia. If they were russia would retaliate against the Americans shooting the missiles. You're unfathomably dumb.

>>509357426
The T-34 wasn't "good enough" it was the first tank with sloped armor and was faster than German counterparts.

>>509353915
> Houthis surrendered

LOL

The Houthis were bombing any Israeli bound ship or Israeli owned ship.

The USA wanted to stop that so they attacked the Houthis. The Houthis responded by attacking any USA ship as well.

The USA wasting way too many drones and missiles with no result decides to cut a deal: we stop bombing you and you leave USA ships alone.

The Houthis can now go back to what they were originally doing and what the USA intervention tried to stop: attacking all Israeli ships.

Sounds to me like the Houthis won and the USA lost.

>>509352270 (OP)
Remember when you had to post three to start a thread? Another 1pbtid thread. Fuck you OP and fuck you guys replying. I'm pretty sure there is only maybe 10 humans on this entire site. It's dead . Gookmoot ruined it. 8kun is much better

>>509357580
>You can literally look up the targeting specifics online
I already did, Mutt
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/10/15/world/russia-ukraine-war-news

Your jews are admitting you are involved. Why can't you do the same?
China will be fully prepared against you.
Iran will re-arm and prepare against you.
North Korea will be prepared against you.

>>509357869
The HIMARS FCS(Fire Control System) Is an on-board computer that calculates the missile's trajectory to target. The system is internal, there are no outside operators required to support the firing of a HIMARS system. Two guys in a truck with a computer. That's it. The fact that your third world brain can't read the wikipedia or dozens of other articles on the technical specifications of the system is truly telling. Two hohols in a truck with a computer. And you're inventing an entire shadow US team guiding missiles. Unbelievably low IQ kek

>>509357426

I bet you think the Vietnamese “steam-rolled” the US too, don’t you?

>>509352270 (OP)
follow me on this one.
If you can't afford a war, you can not afford to not go to war as soon as possible for a multitude of strategic reasons starting with the obvious, fuck you gimmie dat

>>509358091
That's a lot of bot generated damage control.
Everybody knows you are the ones providing missile coordinates to Ukraine.

>>509352270 (OP)
nice one, the last time china fought a war on their own terms they got BTFO by vietnam. they haven't won a war for 500 years or some shit. face culture crushes them, if you promote too many retards you can't win wars, simple as.

>>509358219
Nigger you don't even understand how the system works. Ukrainians spot a russian target, they get on this invention you don't know about called the radio and give the coordinates of the target. The Ukrainians in the HIMARS punch in the coordinates. The FCS calculates the trajectory and then they fire the missile.

This is basic ass military technology, the russians do the same thing.

You're inventing a boogey man to be angry at kek

>>509358091
What a massive faggot you are
Its a secure NATO GPS system

The HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket System) uses advanced guidance systems to ensure precision targeting. It can fire various munitions, including the Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) and the Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS), which utilize GPS and inertial guidance for accuracy.

>>509358479
>Nigger you don't even understand how the system works
That's wrong, I reject your lies, simple as that.

Your enemy knows you are their enemy.
Your enemy will not be unprepared like the Iranians.

>>509358485
Way to cut out the INS and FCS, totally a good faith post kek
>>509358613
>I don't understand radios so my feelings say you're wrong

Oh noo... I'm so afraid of the sewage-eating chinks who are still too afraid to take their little neighbor country that they seethe over every day. KEK

>>509358919
>I don't understand radios
It's not about radios, it's about you.
The Chinese knows what you are. You are a thing... a golem that moves in a direction.
The Chinese know you are their enemy.

>>509353345
You wouldn't need to. If US and PRC really go at it, everyones economy drops like a rock and that could quickly become terminal for the CCP and Xi.

The cockiness in this thread is exactly what will get us stomped. Fact is China is catching up in a lot of areas, such as air to air missiles. They are committed too. All it takes is a couple missiles getting through...

>>509352550
China wants to destroy the United States and western liberalism overall to dominate the world with Chinese Communism.
So, stopping them from doing that would be in the interests of the United States.
And it probably starts with Taiwan.

>>509359025
>still has yet to produce any specifications of chinese tech

All propaganda no study kek

I can't, this thread is too jewish

>>509359039
>and that could quickly become terminal for the CCP and Xi.
Nah.
Russians are not blaming Putin.
Iranians are not blaming Khamenei.
The Chinese will not blame CPC.

All 3 populations knows the Europeans are the ones to blame.

>>509352270 (OP).

Nice projection. Anyways, dyk that China didn't do anything to help their communist allies?

>>509359180
>Muttlard has given up denying he is the one attacking the BRICS countries
>Muttlard golem moves to new topic
It was that easy.

>>509359405
You derailed the discussion about chinese readiness to claim americans are killing russians, I schooled you and you just went back to denying reality. You're all gusto no wits.

>>509359273
Delusional as fuck.

>>509354718
>they have hard assets (industrial power)
This is true and the US is in a more precarious position than anyone wants to admit, especially after 30 years of globalism, the last 4-12 years of corrupt Democrats playing stupid evil and dangerous games in DC, and finally the arrogant, smug and naive Silicon Valley technocrats with the most punchable faces imaginable betraying the US and cutting deals with the devil.
But China is still a bullshitting authoritarian communist regime that brute-forced industrial development and technology using mercantile tactics. It's not a robust, balanced economy.

>>509359508
>You derailed the discussion about chinese readiness to claim americans are killing russians
??
Those 2 are linked together.
Russians know you are behind the Ukrainians.
The Chinese knows you are their enemy.

Why are you trying so hard to convince a random 4channer that you are not the enemy of China/Russia/Iran?
Your enemy already KNOWS what you are.

Move on and figure out how you can win the war against them instead of playing pretend.

>>509359770
>Disregards technical facts
>spews more propaganda

You think were arguing, but whats happening is you're parroting propaganda and I'm laughing at you're inability to read.

>>509359925
You can call it what you want. But your enemy knows you are the enemy.
And they will not surrender and give up their nation.

You better prepare better than what you did against Iran. Because that's not good enough. Mutt.

>>509352270 (OP)
Unless the US plans to nuke China the numbers do mean alot they have lot's of technology not just numbers each with lot's of firepower...

>>509359039
or the US has a revolution
be careful what you wish for
its delusional shit such as this why the world is a shithole

>>509360111
>doubles down on propaganda
kek

>>509360360
>be careful what you wish for
What, you think either result would phase me?

>>509360361
I think your on copium. You're hoping China will be caught completely off guard, and this is how you will conquer the world.

This plan will not work. You have the grind them own the hard way. Your coward tactics won't work even on Iran.

all chinese with any money move away from china bud.

>>509361179
>all chinese with any money move away
Actually they moved out of UK when the brits began seizing stuff owned by Russians.

>>509352378
Number of boats, number of people in the fucking boats, and naturally the drone tech is more than a bit of a nuisance.
In fact, if you want a point of comparison, the population disparity is about the same as the one between Russia and Ukraine. Not only that, but it's almost as if China's government intentionally bred a generation of young, wifeless men who are frustrated and looking for some enemy to blame via the one child policy.

I don't think they're even entertaining the thought of an all-out conflict with us right now, or else they would have ramped up their nuclear arsenal as well, but the problem with China is that they think of things in centuries, while we think of things in election terms. A few decades ago they started laying the groundwork for this, and there's a very real threat to Japan, New Zealand, and if they're especially ballsy, Australia.

>>509352270 (OP)
we'll find a way to pay the joo vig tho

>>509352270 (OP)
>the financial system is a accurate representation of the industrial capacity of a nation
The systems broken, but not how you think it is.

>>509356632
You're thinking too short-term. They're not building those boats to invade America. They've got a couple of Island neighbors that have been largely disaffected and disenfranchised by their own governments recently and have massive resources.
NZ and Aussies are fucked. Japan is a weird one the more I think about it. NZ and Australia are rich in natural resources, but Japan's golden goose is manufacturing, which is only good because it's under Japan's control and would fall into ruin under communists.

>>509352548
TWO MORE WEEKS

And yet China sits there and does nothing like a faggot

>>509362916
>And yet China sits there and does nothing
They are waiting for you to attack them.
I suggest you take the offer.

>>509352378
Around WW2, yeah.
I guess OPs point is almost no country can afford a full blown war. Just look at the cash spent in just 12 days of Israel Vs. Iran.
Now imagine that shit with two big countries separated by the pacific ocean. Nah, it's cheaper and more profitable to wage economic war while constantly sounding the fear sirens to keep the goy in line.

China's entire financial infrastructure is based on heavily leveraged exports and in house borrowing so no, they won't start shit

>>509352270 (OP)
China already won and it only took a couple of shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIFLtNYI3Ls

>>509354718
By the way, they’ve been going through deflation since COVID and printing money hasn’t helped them the last 4 years either.

>>509362365
Nigger, they’re pissing off everyone with their military drills. Phillipines and Vietnam already had enough. Vietnam is already doing military drills with the US military, Phillipines is ready to deal with the US, Japan even increased their defense spending.

Everyone is looking at China to make the first move because everyone is getting ready to dogpile if necessary.

>>509368053
>Everyone is looking at China to make the first move
Nah, you cowards did the first move against Iron.
China is waiting for your move.

>>509368279
China is drowning and Taiwan was Xi’s last swansong and he can’t even do it because the PLA leader is fighting him in a faction war.

So no need for anyone to do anything. The west and half of the eastern hemisphere is already against China. We’re just waiting for them to either implode and stop this bullshit once Xi is dethroned or they chimp put and fight half the world LMAO.

>>509352378
It's not the number of boats or troops, but how fast you can replace them.

>>509368431
>China is drowning
Then you wouldn't be seething on 4chan every day like you are right now.
You would be happy and celebrating and rolling in with your military.

>>509352378
Number of boats win naval wars, yes.
Its the number if factories and shipyards that win wars.
Guess what, China wins there too.

>>509368901
Angry? Do you know how much fun I have educating you stupid shills on your fav country’s geopolitics? Its always fun because you shills know dick from squat about them despite sucking their dick hard lmao.

>>509368904
America is a paper pussy.

I live in the exact center. Do Chinese boats fly?

>>509352378
Strange how the vast missile and drone volleys that would destroy the entire USN in one second don't work on the Chinese according to these faggots.

>>509369361
China has laser anti-drone tech.

>>509369639
Lmao, Iran and Pakistan had Chinese anti missile systems. “The best in the world” according to the CCP. How did that go?

>>509369153
>Angry?
Pissrael is in ruins, why wouldn't you be seething right now?

>>509370148
I wish Iran did anything. But because they trusted China with Military equipment, it did exactly as “made in china” products normally do. Not even the anti missile systems did anything LMAO.

Commies are fucking faggots.

>>509370205
>I wish Iran did anything
They made your cousins flee back to Europe like rats.

>>509370390
Where? They got blown up in the first volley and had to pretend to go out with a bang in some base in Qatar lmao. Kikes are barbaric monsters but Iran are practically cave dwellers by comparison anyways lmao.

>>509370486
Your butthurt is visible, kike.

>>509370714
You keep deflecting with isntreal but you stopped doing China talking points, what happened? Can’t even look anything up to defend your fav country anymore?

>>509370850
I couldn't help notice your immense seething at China, so I had to call out your latest fiasco.

>33 posts
>Y-youre seething!

>>509357426
I guess after they fought the bloodiest battle in history over 6 months relying heavliy on urban warfare

China's fleet is made up of green water ships and they have shit tier logistics, we're good.

Noo please don't go.

>>509355115
Amerisharts high on their own farts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSnbbifpiLw

>>509352270 (OP)
There's always money in the banana stand...

>>509353043
Those are dead weight and are just helping to bankrupt you. In a real war the very first thing china or russia would do, would be to send a thousand missiles and ten thousand drones at your ships and immediately destroy them all. They would go into way overkill mode because they aren't stupid, they know full-well how important those are to you and for your ability to sin a war against them.

>>509353185
>they blow up all of your ships, thus leaving you stranded on that, admittedly, very large island of yours
What now?

>>509352270 (OP)
Chinese troops will be marching in formation down their street, and cumskins still wont believe china can defeat the US

>>509370714
I just googled. The plane is back in beetsheba.

>>509377684
Beersheba i mean

>>509377288
you would have to open your eyes first in order to invade ferrow yerrow

>>509352677
They really brainwashed you

>>509376692
Fuck what game is this, it's right up my ally. Can you do infantry and tank battles with this? Fascinating to be able to watch the battle from so many angles. I'd kill for a WW2 version of this.

>>509352270 (OP)
i recommend usa will do a massive first strike with most of its nuclear weapons, because it is not in a great position to fight a conventional long war.
with a fast and decisive strategic victory over china, the last true opponent of usa, usa shall control the world forever.
amen.

Chinks are the biggest pussies and worst allies ever. Every Russian and Iranian anon on this board hates them.

>>509352378
Yes, litterally.
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2023/january/bigger-fleets-win

>Chinks have more ships
>Chinks have new ships
>Chinks have weapons specifically to fight the US aging ships
What do you think is going to happen retard.

>>509352270 (OP)
You cant have open borders and a healthy middle class.

>>509379003
>I propose sending (you) to the front line specifically
I think China is more of a peace through strength country, while putting in resources into destabilizing America through influence and drugs, China would be braindead to enter a kinetic war with the U.S., I'm talking declared war

>>509379003
The same thing that happened between Russia and Ukraine. Ukraine bombs the shit out of Russian ships without having a fucking navy due to shit equipment and military incompetence LMAO.

>>509352378
Military industrial production wins wars. The Chinese have lights off automated factories producing missiles and drones while the US has assembly plants dependent on imported parts produces overseas with no spare capacity to increase production. Chinese and Russian armaments industries produce to fight wars. The American military industrial complex produces armaments to make its shareholders rich.

>>509352378
>>509352270 (OP)
china can just use cheap drones to waste America's expensive complex weapons.
It worked on Israel and it works on Russia.

>>509352270 (OP)
I wouldn't fight for the US, China can have it.

>>509357676
The french had the first sloped armour.

>>509355047
>and the ship then launches a missile
Can the US outproduce China in missile production? Chinas export ban on rare earth minerals fucks US interceptor missile and fighter aircraft production. The twelve day war between Iran and Israel went through more interceptor missiles than the US produced in a year before the rare earth export ban.

>>509378891
>Chinks are the worst allies ever.

>>509379221
>>509379003
it is difficult to predict how modern sea war would go, as boats and ports creating the boats are especially vulnerable right now from bazillion different threats, from hypersonic missiles to all different kinds of drones.
you can even shoot missiles from a cargo plane, turning even logistics as a missile arsenal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_Dragon_(missile_system)

>>509379697
Considering how the anti missile systems did in Pakistan and Iran, CCP does a great job selling for its oligarchs because not a damn one won a war lmao.

>>509379896
and you can launch a massive amount of decoys with them. sea missiles are advancing in technology, even sea mines are.

>>509379896
Yeah so “le more boats” is a fucking meme that shills and the CCP dreamt up in their heads. War IS more complicated than numbers.

>>509379963
Pakistan did ok vs India and Iran doesn't have an integrated air defense system and mostly uses its domestically produces surface to air missiles.

Even if the US wins the first round of naval warfare with China, it will be completely defeated in the subsequent shipbuilding competition.
Don't expect the shitty war to end with a single naval battle. That is something you can learn from the past.
They still think that the experience in Iraq war can be replicated anywhere on the surface of the earth.

Oh fuck the chinese boats are coming.

>>509353185
Lmao worst-case scenario you would still have well over a billion Chinese to contend with

>>509380709
People who are obsessed with the Three Gorges Dam meme forget that they were the ones who blew up the fucking Yellow River embankment just to temporarily delay the advance of the Japanese army.
They don't understand what it means to go to war with them.

Frankly, I just want to be around for the instant land grab of chinese national assets on the mainland when any and all debts held by china are wiped off the table and land suddenly becomes dirt cheap all over the place.

America's army never won a single war. They just LARP as zogheroes, but we all know they're cucks.

>>509381149
Hows the US dollar treating you, wart?

>>509381190
I own more Bitcoin than USD.

>>509352270 (OP)
All China can do is make tiktok videos. Entire country is fake and getting annoying. Not even israelis are this desperate for upvotes on social media.

>>509380302
Pakistan got fucked and Iran got double fucked with or without integrated systems. Both still using Chinese equipment btw.

>>509381267
Iran doesn't use Chinese air defenses. They use their own. And Iran fucked over the Israelis more than the Israelis fucked over Iran because Iran was dropping up to 1.5 ton warheads on Israel while Israel was dropping 200kg max warheads on Iran.

>>509381267
kike

>>509352378
yes
are you retarded?

>>509352378
Number of ship building facilities wins wars. Americans are unable to compete with Chinese military industry and thats why they are chimping out about China.

>>509352270 (OP)
We would have stomped Russia too during the Cold War for all that mattered. Nobody fights each other anymore, not directly.

>>509354597
Don't real countries have submarines for this? Launching a missile of the flat bed of a transport ship is africa tier bragging. I don't even see fake ironman suits

The USA and China are never going to war. They have a symbiotic relationship that is so deep and abiding that it would cause total catastrophe for them both if they did.

We might get proxy war kino at some point, but unless China goes full crazy and gets an actual military dictator, it will not happen.

>>509353043
They don't even have a nuclear powered carrier

>>509380630
You are fucking stupid, I bet the Chinese couldn't even defeat the Japanese navy

>>509352270 (OP)
What is China's navy's track record?
Hint: Dismal

>>509383481
>nuclear powered floating coffins

>>509379896
>>509380100
Dumbass, he talks about all those things that only China employs. Picrel is a drone ship which is the first ever large drone ship It can have 16 VLS cells, so you'll have these ships performing autonomous patrols. US Navy cant even build a frigate lmfao. Everything that anon talked about China is ahead in and employs in its military. And before you ask, they already have a large drone sumbarine too.

You have to be a brain dead retard if you think the US can "out-drone" China of all countries, considering they have autonomous factories for their missiles already while the US still uses Boomers who charge a 5000% markup.

It doesn't take a general to know that fighting 10k miles in enemy territory where they employed countless of defenses and traps, and specific weaponry to counter your aging shit, where they out range you, out gun you, and out number you etc to know how that engagement is going to turn out.

There's a reason why TSMC has a Arizona factory.

>>509383643
Nobody is going to invade china you retard. Every hypothetical is chinks invading a US ally and then punishing them so badly they give up.

Talking like there is a plan to put boots on the ground in chinkland is how I know you are a propagandabot.

>>509383579
Chinese carriers are a meme. They don't even have good aircraft for it which is half the development.

>>509383305
no shipyards do not win wars. They win wars when you build the ships before the war and China doesn't even have equivalent ships in class so far, let alone the numbers.

>>509383723
And China isn't going to invade the states... So they better figure out how to combat massive coordinated drone attacks in foreign theaters

>>509352378
In reality those ships are just torpedo fodder for our submarine fleet.

>>509383723
>Nobody is going to invade china you retard.
You said/thought the same thing about Iran.

The problem is your curability has reached rock bottom. the zionists are always the attacks.
You ought to know this. You have been helping the europans attack Asia for the past 400 years.

>>509383723
>Nobody is going to invade china you retard.
You said/thought the same thing about Iran.

The problem is your credibility has reached rock bottom. The zionists are always the attackers.
You ought to know this. You have been helping the europans attack Asia for the past 400 years.

>>509385103
>>509385173
kek nice one retard

>>509352378
Yes. Sadly, the number of boats wins naval wars, not vibrant diversity.

China is fucked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsEv8yFfNYY

>>509385923
Surely this time now.

>>509352270 (OP)
Image US block sea around China and China will quickly run off food and oil.

>>509386039
Last checked the US navy couldn't even stop the houthi rebels.

What's with China that riles up the 1 post by this ID propaganda posters so much? Glowies are trying to moralize people up for a war, presenting it not only as winnable but easy?

>>509385485
>Lurking the thread for hours on end without replying,
>harvesting data,
>monitoring everything,
>suddenly someone made a spelling error! REPLY I must reply!
KEK
Australian tax dollars are being wasted hard.

>>509352270 (OP)
No one can afford war. Russia is pretending they can, it's going nowhere. America played the same hand and racked up trillions in debt to lose miserably. The entire world is a paper tiger with piles of debt and citizens that would rather see their nation fall.
This is why the "nothing ever happens" meme rings true. Modern geopolitics are just sabre rattling on social media alongside of countless disinfo psyops.

>>509386256
yes that's what happened chang

What will the chink cope be when the kamikaze sinks their Taiwan invasion fleet as well?

>>509387364
What's with China that riles up the 1 post by this ID propaganda posters so much?