I'm a nuke denialist.
It just doesn't sound that plausible
>then what happened to those cities?
bombed the normal way, but they zoomed in for the photo

Before digging in deep rabbit holes, it is advisable to learn picrel. Nuclear explosions are definitely real.

Drop it.

>>509360079
no they definitely arent

>>509360152
On me please

Not only are nukes real, but regular 238U can sustain a chain reaction. Big enrichment factories are a counterintelligence red herring.

>>509359579 (OP)
Ok anon I'm not saying I do or don't believe you, I have questions too. For example, if nukes aren't real, then can you tell me what it is that North Korea and Israel has that Israel wants to stop Iran from getting?

>>509360560
show me a single filmed nuclear explosion from anywhere in the world that is less than fifty years old

>>509360756
>Ok anon I'm not saying I do or don't believe you, I have questions too. For example, if nukes aren't real, then can you tell me what it is that North Korea and Israel has that Israel wants to stop Iran from getting?


a country without a central bank

>>509360839
>what are atmospheric test bans

Can anyone link me to something or explain the major points put forth but nuke denialists?

>>509360560.

US bomb testings on designated nuke testing sites in the pacific. I guess you can search it.

>>509360922
yes the whole world is in agreement about nukes, now that we have established that there is SOME DEGREE at least of collusion that the ENTIRE WORLD goes along with on the topic of nukes


so they stopped filming nukes for fifty years because of diplomacy? is that also why we stopped going to the moon and filming it fifty years ago?

>>509360397
>Nobody counted the number of people blinded by the blast do it never happened
Are you retarded?

>>509360930
if nukes were real hiroshima and nagasaki would not have rebuilt within two weeks of them dropping, there would be blind people to this day on government assistance as well, they would have used nukes in the five years that no one else had them to literally take over the world if for no other reason than self preservation no nation on earth is gonna hold onto the trump card of all trump cards and wait five years for their enemies to get the same thing so its fair, there hasnt been a single filmed nuclear blast from anywhere in the world in fifty fucking years

>flat-earthers have shifted their attention

>>509361072
>>Nobody counted the number of people blinded by the blast do it never happened
>Are you retarded?


nobody counted the number of people blinded but we are gonna act like we did and that number was zero and then excuse it as though you had reason to expect people to have been blinded (because we told you thats what would happen)>>509360397


did the holocaust happen?

>>509361157
why would you believe the kikes who told you the holocaust happened when they said they developed a doomsday weapon that they didnt use until hitler was dead and japan was defeated and surrounded in the pacific (And ready to capiutlate)?


had they tried this hoax while hitler was alive hed have called it a hoax and been very convincing, had they tried it when the japs were still giving us a hard time in the pacific they would have called it a hoax and been marginally less convincing than hitler

>>509361198
In what part of that retarded rambling did you think you made a coherent point?

>>509361398
you are too stupid to know pil pul when you see it.

did the holocaust happen yes or no?>>509360397

this image is classic pil pul and the question i asked was logical and in good faith (if nukes were real and not a hoax there would be blinded survivors today you cant fake blinded people wonder what google has to say about it)

>>509360873
>a country without a central bank
So Iran is enriching a not central bank? They got a gringott's under that mountain that we just bombed?

>>509361537
hey how come mutually assured destruction is enough to keep the entire world from using their super weapons ever besides that one time but is not enough of a deterrent for nations without central banks to care?

>>509361473
The Google card gave you a shitty answer to your question because it's the fucking Google card. What do you expect, moron?

>>509361537
also how long does it take an independant nation to develop a nuclear weapon? because supposedly iran has been at it for thirty years, IF nukes were real (they arent) we would have decided oh i dont know 20 years ago that iran must simply be too brown to develop them

>>509361019
>stopped filming nukes for fifty years because of diplomacy
50 years of climate advocacy, when I was a kid 40 years ago it was something of a sticking point the casual radiating of random places and the subsequent fallout. You ever heard about how they go about getting surgical steel?

>>509361630
its not just a shitty answer its pil pul, and the answer is ZERO people were blinded by the flash at hiroshima which is really the issue, and there was basically no radioactive fallout they say that the bombs burnt up all the radiactive fuel "cooked it off" well than why are we so damn concerned about them? they also say that the nuclear blast carbonized people and blasted a perfect imprint of the shadows of old men with their canes onto the surrounding concrete. its piles of shoes tier bullshit

>>509361688
>50 years of climate advocacy

china cares, russia cares

>japan nuked twice
>quickly recovers and becomes a world superpower

>Detroit invaded by niggers
>area is decimated
>never recovers

It's crazy how Diversity is a greater weapon than nuclear bombs

>>509361594
>not enough of a deterrent for nations without central banks to care?
I'm not getting the reference here, I've heard a few plausible arguments for why nukes are fake, but the central bank angle is not been any part of those as far as I know it.

>>509361989
what im saying is when you point out that besides the one time in japan the entire world basically developed nukes and NEVER USED THE FUCKING THINGS because of a concept called "mutually assured destruction" the idea being if you ever used nukes the retaliation would be instant and devastating so it deters all nations for all time from using them even if they have them, SIMULTANEOUSLY we must prevent iran from developing a nuclear weapon because they will totally use them!

its absurd

>>509361739
>the answer is ZERO people were blinded by the flash at hiroshima
You don't know that, retard.

>there was basically no radioactive fallout
Because nuclear bombs don't produce much fallout.

>than why are we so damn concerned about them?
Mostly media fearmongering. Not that a giant ass explosion being able to happen pretty much anywhere isn't concerning.

>blasted a perfect imprint of the shadows of old men with their canes onto the surrounding concrete
Concrete was dirty and the blast effectively bleached anything with direct line of sight. Conventional explosives do this too. You're just retarded and fall for propaganda too easily.

>>509362131
>>blasted a perfect imprint of the shadows of old men with their canes onto the surrounding concrete
>Concrete was dirty and the blast effectively bleached anything with direct line of sight. Conventional explosives do this too. You're just retarded and fall for propaganda too easily.


While the belief has persisted that it shows the remnant of a "vaporized" person, this has been shown to be scientifically impossible: the temperatures required to vaporize a human body in such a short amount of time exceed even the high temperatures experienced on the ground at Hiroshima. If the shadow is of a human being, it indicates that the person absorbed sufficient heat to significantly burn or alter the surface of the steps they were obscuring. Rather than vaporized or reduced to ash, the person would have any of their clothing or skin exposed to very high temperatures, and likely have been extremely burned, as well as subjected to the blast and radiation effects.[7]
>it was impossible but this anon explained it anyway neat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Shadow_Etched_in_Stone

>>509361637
My god son your powers of deduction are nearly indecipherable, the powers of your perception must be gold plated! It's called stratigerry Iran said for 30 years that they weren't trying to make a nuke, I would guess that they weren't lying. How does this prove nukes are fake?

>>509362499
it took us less than one third that time to fucking INVENT nukes supposedly and russia had one supposedly within five years

>>509362499
its not up to me to prove nukes dont exist its up to you to prove they do exist and ive given plenty of reasons to doubt them mainly that we were told they existed by the same kikes who lied about the fucking holocaust and we stopped both filming nuclear explosions and moon landings (WORLD WIDE) in the early seventies at the exact same time movie goers had become savvy to hollywood special effects after the scifi boom of the fifties and sixties

>>509359579 (OP)
There are too much logistics, paperwork, eye witness accounts, and photographs to reasonably deny it.

>>509362665
yes i agree as far as the holocaust but what do you think of nukes?

>>509362618
That will never happen because to prove nukes exist, one would need to be used on or around you.

>>509359579 (OP)
nukes exist
im not going to try to convince you, you wouldn't believe me even if i tried. they do exist though, and you're a schizo. There's literally evidence they exist like trinitite in alamogordo for example. Then there are people who've seen them go off, measured the radiation from them, which you wouldn't get from a conventional explosive. Or the EMPs when the mutts exploded them in space etc.

>>509362421
Did I say anything about the person being "vaporized" you fucking retard?

>>509362737
or maybe just some modern footage of a test explosion where rear projection isnt clearly being employed lmao

>>509362791
If you live long enough, you'll see it.

>>509362776
the peoples shadows etched into concrete has been proven to be scientifically impossible you were defending it

>>509362809
>two more weeks

its been fifty fucking years its literally never gonna happen and im as sure nukes are fake as i am that the sun will rise in the morning

>>509362851
I hope you're right buddy

>>509362877
bet everything you have that im right on this because i am


of all the nuclear powers in the world who underwent sudden violent regime change how the fuck is mad a deterrent to them? they are gonna be hanged! its sci fi my man

If nukes were fake that would be based, but I think war would be even more common and aggressive. You could invade many more countries without risk of retaliation.

>>509362936
Well, I don't think many nuclear powers have undergone violent revolution.

>>509362818
The Wikipedia article you quoted explains that the person couldn't have been vaporized, not that the shadow was impossible. Learn to read.

>>509362944
imagine inventing a weapon so good that many other countries scramble to also develop it and not only NEVER USE IT but also NEVER TEST IT for fifty fucking years even as a show of force, not once anywhere on gods green earth

they are fake

>>509359579 (OP)
There was no radiation at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Those cities were fire bombed.

Dirty bombs might be real, but nuclear reaction bombs are not.

>>509360397
You didn't read the chart and it shows. Your logic is nigger tier.

>>509362991
it depends on how you define a lot of things but the soviet union collapsing without using its nukes, south africa supposedly had nuclear armament but allowed the international community to end apartheid and destroy their country, iran has supposedly had nukes or been develpoing nukes since the seventies and they underwent a violent regime change


its just absurd to think no nation would use it even once besides that one time, MAD doesnt explain it because if it did no one would care if iran were developing nukes because MAD would deter them from using them as well

>>509362998
>>509362421
>While the belief has persisted that it shows the remnant of a "vaporized" person, this has been shown to be scientifically impossible: the temperatures required to vaporize a human body in such a short amount of time exceed even the high temperatures experienced on the ground at Hiroshima. If the shadow is of a human being, it indicates that the person absorbed sufficient heat to significantly burn or alter the surface of the steps they were obscuring. Rather than vaporized or reduced to ash, the person would have any of their clothing or skin exposed to very high temperatures, and likely have been extremely burned, as well as subjected to the blast and radiation effects.[7]
its saying the shadow explanation is scientifically impossible and offers an even less possible alternative offhandedly that the persons atoms somehow carbonized onto the steps


its nonsense

>>509362421
>While the belief has persisted that it shows the remnant of a "vaporized" person, this has been shown to be scientifically impossible

the first sentence is the one to pay attention to >>509362998

>>509363152
>You didn't read the chart and it shows. Your logic is nigger tier.

refute it then mr i read the chart you are just employing ad hom without attacking my actual arguments you need to read the sticky yourself

>>509363214
>>509363284
Yes. It's saying the vaporization is impossible. That's what I tried to explain to you but you're illiterate.

>>509362073
>they will totally use them!

Yeah to defend and deter from future Western or Israeli interference and aggression.

Google gemini gives a similar deboonking.

>>509363320
You offered no counter argument. Your citation proves nothing. Thus the evaluation of your logic remains true.
Tell me, can you explain why Uranium becomes less radioactive the lower it is beneath the ground?

>>509363571
>Yes. It's saying the vaporization is impossible. That's what I tried to explain to you but you're illiterate.


vaporization was the initial explanation and it turned out to be fucking fake, so they offer another explanation that is equally implausible but ultimately no one knows how that stain showed up on those steps


there is no accepted explanation its just one of another pieces of holocaust tier propaganda about nukes that was quietly rolled back

no fallout

no flash blindness

no vaporized shadows

no nuclear winter


and so on.

no nukes

>>509362618
Surgical Steel proves nukes exist, now what?

>>509363687
>You offered no counter argument

you didnt make an argument for me to counter, you simply said i didnt read the chart and ad homed me ironically enough

>>509363699
in what sense?

In an atom, protons and electrons are held close together, but the compactness of the nucleus is on a whole different level. If you think about the kind of forces it takes to keep those positively charged particles packed in the nucleus, the force must be absolutely tremendous, remember that it goes by the square of the distance

That is the nuclear force. The force of the nucleus. It is on a whole different level of magnitude to the electrical forces you know from day-to-day life.
The nuclear force is so powerful that even a very small number of reactions can result in an immense detonation.

>>509363689
>vaporization was the initial explanation
No. Some retards said the guy was vaporized and other people believed it. That has nothing to do with the way the shadow formed.
Pic related is from the same wiki article you cited.

>>509363699
Sorry I'm high and forgetting shit. I meant low-background steel used for certain surgical and medical applications.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

>>509363162
I don't know what to believe anymore, but which scenario is more likely in your opinion: USA convinced the rest of the world we had nukes and every country but the US that claims they have them are lying and hoping the US doesn't call their bluff, or, all countries that claim to have them are 'in on it' together like a secret club?

If nukes were real someone would have gotten nuked since WW2. And somehow the one country that was nuked was barely impacted and immediately bounced back. If nukes were real third world shitholes would have destroyed each other by now.

>>509361936
>It's crazy how Diversity is a greater weapon than nuclear bombs
thats why jews use it so much

>>509359579 (OP)
Go to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
You can see many evidences of the nukes there.

>>509363888
>I don't know what to believe anymore, but which scenario is more likely in your opinion: USA convinced the rest of the world we had nukes and every country but the US that claims they have them are lying and hoping the US doesn't call their bluff, or, all countries that claim to have them are 'in on it' together like a secret club?


you must accept one way or another that all the nuclear powers of the world are colluding on the topic of nuclear weapons or else one of them would have tested a nuclear bomb or used one even once in the last fifty years no?

>>509363845
the alternative explanation that the surrounding area was bleached by the intense heat (literally how a shadow is formed basically) is equally fucking stupid and i explained why there are a handful of mundane shadows but more than one shadow of an old man with his cain for instance, if this process is how these shadows were formed there would be literally COUNTLESS mundane shadows of buildings and bike racks and pols and trees and birds and dogs and frogs and so on, its insane you even pretend to believe this

>>509363790
The existence of this metal proves that a significant measurable event occurred above the water that managed to touch every piece of steel on earth in a way that left residue of it's existence. If that wasn't the atomic bomb, you know what Occam might consider, than what was it? Don't you dare say central banks mofo!

>>509363863
that is very interesting

>>509363863
the trinity TEST our government literally admits that before setting off the first A bomb they loaded a bunch of tnt up with radioactive material and blew it up just to see what would happen first i suppose.

>>509364130
i get your point but see>>509364212
The "100-Ton Test":

Purpose: On May 7, 1945, scientists conducted this "dress rehearsal" to calibrate instruments and practice timing sequences for the actual Trinity test.
Method: 100 tons of TNT were stacked on a 20-foot wooden platform.
Radioactive Element: Louis Hempelmann inserted a small amount of radioactive material from the Hanford facility into tubes within the TNT stack to study how radiation might disperse in the Trinity test.
Outcome: The explosion destroyed the platform and left a crater with trace amounts of radiation. The experiment allowed scientists to gather data on the dispersal of radioactive materials in an explosion.

>>509359579 (OP)
I refuse to believe that of all innovations in warfare the entire world somehow collectively agreed to draw the line at nukes and never once stepped over it.

>>509363888
>I don't know what to believe
well you can agree with the crazy people who are spreading deliberate misinformation, or you can believe the truth. It's up to you. I mean people believe in religion, so their grasp on truth is weak to begin with

>>509364289
smart

>>509364326
in your view did the holocaust happen yes or no?

>>509364282
Well I guess the clarification needed is are you denying the existence of the bombs/explosions themselves or the whole of nuclear science. Do you think nuclear power is real and do you think radiation is real? Is Chernobyl real? Many questions now

>>509364326
>. I mean people believe in religion

fag alert

>>509364040
Do you think it's possible that nobody has them and everyone is playing a game of chicken? Like, the US doesn't have them but other countries that claim they do only do so because they believe that the US has them?

>>509359579 (OP)
No one cares about you... go back to huffing gas, Abo

>>509364161
Yeah and if you look at it there is a demonstrable connection between lack of bombs being set off, I.E. test ban treaty etc, that correlates to newer steel having undetectable radiation levels.

>>509364388
>Well I guess the clarification needed is are you denying the existence of the bombs/explosions themselves or the whole of nuclear science. Do you think nuclear power is real and do you think radiation is real? Is Chernobyl real? Many questions now
i think nuclear explosions are not real, i understood them and believed in them most of my life but i got exposed to the idea maybe they were fake rather late one google search later i wasnt exactly convinced but it lead me to doing more research and honestly just applying logic to what i already knew and had not thought about in like a decade>>509360397
if nukes were real kikes would have been in control of them and there wouldnt be a white person left on the face of the earth

>>509364422
>Do you think it's possible that nobody has them and everyone is playing a game of chicken? Like, the US doesn't have them but other countries that claim they do only do so because they believe that the US has them?


its very possible but im not sure about that, another thing to consider is what effect the government of any country posessing impossible super weapons will do to those with a revolutionary attitude, it might just be in a countries best interest to pretend to have nukes


hitler was the last great truth teller in my view and they waited until just after he died to unveil the new "weapon" for a reason

>>509363006
>NEVER TEST IT
You know that underground tests were still common after the ban on atmospheric tests, thats what most nuclear tests have been. The later countries to develop nukes like India, Pakistan and North Korea are also not massive empires like the US and USSR with sparsely populated places you can set off a nuke in the atmosphere

The Vela Incident was probably the last atmospheric test when South Africa and Israel set off a nuke in the southern indian ocean, but that has never been officially confirmed to have happened

>>509364282
Doesn't explain why the levels stayed high well past that test and only showed declining numbers as the number of bombs blowing up also declined. It also adds something of an explanation for your question about lack of video, not only are there way fewer instances to be filmed it was obviously distasteful in the eyes of the public so why bother putting it out there. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist anon, come on now.

>>509364597
>You know that underground tests were still common after the ban on atmospheric tests, thats what most nuclear tests have been
they are not common they are the rare exception to my fifty years rule which is why i specifically state "A filmed nuclear blast" i believe the underground footage to be by far the easiest to fake because you dont need to fake the blast and most people are not familiar with underground mining operations and its use of explosives its visually very startling with conventional weapons and the footage of those operations looks IDENTICAL to the supposed underground test from 91

>>509364128
>if this process is how these shadows were formed there would be literally COUNTLESS mundane shadows
Yes. And there were. These shadows were how people estimated the height of the blast.

>>509364680
>Doesn't explain why the levels stayed high well past that test and only showed declining numbers as the number of bombs blowing up also declined.

what makes you think that they would be unwilling to just blow up a bunch of radioactive material everytime they were staging a test? they admitted to doing it once why not multiple times?

>>509364494
I mean, maybe human beings are still instinctual pack animals (or divine beings guided by God) and realize on some subconscious level that using nukes is dangerous to the whole species... AND generally, people who DO hate humans and the species are never the people who end up in power because they are not electable. None of the countries that have gotten nukes have been monarchies or anything like that.

>>509364699
>ery startling with conventional weapons

conventional explosives*

>>509364703
>Yes. And there were. These shadows were how people estimated the height of the blast.


there werent there are a few which i literally mentioned the first time i even addressed the topic but they would outnumber the human shadows at least 100 to 1 they would be legit everywhere

>>509364739
>I mean, maybe human beings are still instinctual pack animals (or divine beings guided by God) and realize on some subconscious level that using nukes is dangerous to the whole species

except iran

>>509359579 (OP)
You're Jewish

>>509364837
Well, that's just propaganda to drive war. They fear Iran getting nukes because then they wouldn't be able to invade them or bomb them without being nuked and hurt.

>>509364581
I'm not saying I don't believe you, because after everything we've been lied to about I don't trust anything, but I know there is a major correlation between where nukes were tested and people developing cancer based on wind patterns when they were tested. But then again nukes could be the red hearing explanation for that, and something else unknown is the reason.

>>509364847
did the holocaust happen yes or no? so far no one has answered this EASY as fuck question maybe youll be the first in the thread

>>509359579 (OP)
You can start by studying what nuclear fission is. Both the atomic bomb and nuclear power require this phenomenon to work. It's actually conceptually simple. I find nuclear fusion to be more difficult to grasp and seems more like ridiculous "magic" than fission.

>>509364888
>Well, that's just propaganda to drive war. They fear Iran getting nukes because then they wouldn't be able to invade them or bomb them without being nuked and hurt.
well then lets go back do i think its possible humans are pack animals who wouldnt want to use a doomsday weapon? sure, but do i think the kikes who undoubtedly would have controlled the button for the past eighty odd years would be swayed by such an instinct? god no

>>509359579 (OP)
>oppenheimer
More jew theater. If nukes were real in the way they're presented israel would've used them multiple times already.
>but mutually assured destruction & nuclear fallout
jews don't care. They've never been particularly good at long-term planning

>>509364735
>what makes you think that they would be unwilling to just blow up a bunch of radioactive material everytime they were staging a test?
For what reason, besides even sourcing all that nuclear material, what reason would they have to keep doing it when it was fucking with so many things, just so they could maintain this one bullshit idea your narrative needs to stay together?

>>509359579 (OP)
There are a lot of retarded niggers in the world

>>509364914
>You can start by studying what nuclear fission is. Both the atomic bomb and nuclear power require this phenomenon to work. It's actually conceptually simple. I find nuclear fusion to be more difficult to grasp and seems more like ridiculous "magic" than fission.
the existance of fission doesnt mean a runaway nuclear chain reaction is possible, i understand it theoretically but i also dont trust the kikes who said they invented it and also that the holocaust happened, and that nukes would cause radioactive fallout but not the one time we used them, would blind people but not the one time we used them, and cause nuclear winter but not the one time we used them

>>509364908
I think that at the end of the war Germany had run out of food and medicine as a whole, Germans themselves were starving to death. On top of this they had millions of prisoners of war in work camps of all races and countries. Many were released, many were killed, many were abandoned. This was TRANSFORMED into the modern-day fairytale known as "The Holocaust".

>>509364989
>For what reason, besides even sourcing all that nuclear material, what reason would they have to keep doing it when it was fucking with so many things, just so they could maintain this one bullshit idea your narrative needs to stay together?


to maintain the lie they had invented some super duper invincible secret weapon

>>509364808
Here, have 16 minutes worth of examples of mundane shadows at Hiroshima:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sHF5y-lI2jw

I shouldn't have to be the one to show you this. If this is such an important topic to you, then you should have already known about this. But you're stupid.

>>509365048
so no the holocaust didnt happen, so why do you believe the same people who told you it did happen and there is mountains of proof and scientific evidence when they tell you they invented a new super weapon right when the war was already won and the whole world would never use it again in fifty years?

>>509359579 (OP)
it's not that they aren't real, it's that they fucking suck as weapons and they dumped a TON into propaganda for them so they wanna ride that horse as long as they can. they're just not good weapons though, they don't scale up well and are EXTREMELY INEFFICIENT as weapons while being 97% efficient as energy. nuclear would solve the world's energy problems and that's not good for jew business and we do this with lots of things that would make life better for all because healthy, happy people aren't good customers

it's all just about money, not more complicated than that and they spent a lot of money trying to make nukes superweapons and they just aren't that great. thermobaric is better nowadays, costs less, no fallout, efficient as fuck at any scale, etc

>>509359579 (OP)
trees from ground zero survived and are alive to this day. they just fire bombed it like dresden, etc.

>>509365121
i know there are examples the hoaxers were not completley retarded but my point is they would literally be everywhere if the explanation for how they supposedly formed were true, every standing building (of which there were many) would have a permanent shadow behind it but more EVERY BUILDING THAT FELL would likewise have such a shadow they would legit be everywhere they arent


you have a video of a pile of shoes

>>509364901
>I'm not saying I don't believe you, because after everything we've been lied to about I don't trust anything, but I know there is a major correlation between where nukes were tested and people developing cancer based on wind patterns


but there was no such correlation in hiroshima or nagasaki, again they admit to blowing up radioactive material once for the 100 ton test before the trinity test im accusing them of lying about nukes in general its very likely they just included radioactive material along with the conventional explosions to keep up appearances

>>509365202
What would you like me to show you, dumb dumb?
Yes. They were "everywhere" within the flash burn radius. You crying "nuh-uh" avout this only shows how retarded you are.

>>509365130
Well much of the science of the V-1, V-2 Rockets were transferred as well from Germany. The whole period is shrouded in so much.. glory and fluff. It's hard to know exactly what happened. I mean, what about the aliens then? They came when we used the bombs, we shot them down, stole their drone technology and computer technology? How do you explain the tech boom after the war? BUT then now the government just starts coming out and making up shit about aliens and faking alien videos.

There are too many intersections and mysteries and they only seem to deepen on each pass..


I believe the bomb is real because I believe we shot down an alien drone sent to check the signature and reverse engineered it.

>>509360397
>AI slop

>>509365553
you seem mad, i literally already said i brought up the shadows i was the first person in the thread and from my FIRST mention of these shadows i mention that yes there are mundane shadows


you keep pointing them out to me as though i was not the first to mention them in the thread, the point is theyd be everywhere, the fact you beleive a shadow of a man or boy was burned into concrete by the blast to serve as a ghostly reminder of the looming nuclear threat shows you are either a kike are an abject fucking idiot who likely still believes the same kind of emotional baloney they use to sell the holocaust myth


its retarded you are retarded for believing it

I don't believe the bomb is real because of Jewish scientists, that's just an unfortunate coincidence.. but if there was anyone to invent world ending weapons... it would be a kike eh lmfao

>>509365639
>I mean, what about the aliens then? They came when we used the bombs


there are no such thing as aliens isnt it funny that aliens have this air of realness to them but bigfoot is thought of as totally perposterous even though bigfoot is FAR more likely i mean with aliens everything we know about them literally ALL OF IT stems from science fiction in the last hundred years i find the topic totally uninteresting as a result at least with bigfoot there are legends that cross cultures spanning thousands of years.

nukes are fake

aliens are fake and gay

>>509365431
>but there was no such correlation in hiroshima or nagasaki
Damn, you're right. I forgot that I came across that fact years ago. Now I'm starting to remember why I was looking into this a while back and got sidetracked.

>>509365682
the point is there were zero blind people

>>509365809
I disagree. I just think there is way too much evidence you have to prove to me aliens are not real. I think aliens bred us like we bred dogs. Think about it, look at what we did with dogs?

>The dog is a wolf-like canid.[7][8][9] The genetic divergence between the dog's ancestor and modern wolves occurred between 20,000 and 40,000 years ago, just before or during the Last Glacial Maximum[2][1]

In just 40,000 years... we turned a wolf, into this. Genetic manipulation is real and very possible and even us at our rudimentary level of science can achieve it.

>>509366140
>I disagree. I just think there is way too much evidence you have to prove to me aliens are not real

theres none evidence and if the universe were as big as it is and life as mundane they would have been here first this is called the fermi paradox and i dont find the copes about it at all compelling such as the great filter theory

>>509365702
You incorrectly stated that the shadow of the man was thought to be a result of him being vaporized. I explained the way the shadows are formed and that it has nothing to do with him being vaporized. You then quoted Wikipedia saying he couldn't have been vaporized, which I agree with, but you misinterpreted that as saying the shadow couldn't have been formed.
I showed an example of a mundane shadow that proves it has nothing to do with vaporization then you changed your argument by saying "well there should be more of them." I showed you more of them and now you're asking for even more.

You're retarded.

>>509366140
The modern dog does not come from modern wolves, retard. They are 2 different breeds. The wolf breed that dogs stem from is extinct. If you didn't know this, how do you expect others to believe that you know what you're talking about when it comes to other subjects?

>>509366352
>You incorrectly stated that the shadow of the man was thought to be a result of him being vaporized.


i told you i heard multiple explanations for how these shadows appeared and believed none of them. it WAS thought to be the result of him being vaporized as the wikipedia for these shadows plainly states and i had an anon offer that to me as an explanation yesterday.


neither explanation is believable to me and if the light were intense enough to permanently seer shadows into concrete people would have been blinded they would be on government assistance to this day or perhaps the last of them dying in the last couple decades a record would exist.

>>509366282
There is tons and tons of evidence throughout history of aliens and you are being unfair. Regardless, I was simply explaining my reasoning for believing in the bombs. I do think its interesting that there is a lack of modern footage.. BUT I do think there is a simple explanation for it personally. I can understand why the explanation is not sufficient for some but I will await confirmation. I don't know how you could "prove" that all nukes are fake without somehow getting into control of them so it would depend on people in that situation.

>>509366352
>I showed an example of a mundane shadow that proves it has nothin

i mentioned that mundane shadows existed among my first comments talking about the subject stop trying to sneak this in as a gotcha this aint my first rodeo and my issue as i STATED IT was that there are too few of these there are many but they would legit be everywhere there was a standing structure and stone or concrete behind it that was my position from the beginning

>>509366425
??? Did we domesticate dogs 40,000 years ago from one species or not?

>>509366498
>it WAS thought to be the result of him being vaporized as the wikipedia for these shadows plainly states
No. It plainly states that people thought he was vaporized, not that the vaporization had anything to do with the shadow itself.
Once again, you are illiterate.

>>509366542
>There is tons and tons of evidence throughout history of aliens and you are being unfair.

if you interpret it that way sure, but consider for the vast majority of history for most men, the sky WAS the heavens and the stars and planets gods and angels, in this microsliver of history well it turns out the stars are just nuclear explosions! you know those things we just invented! anyway we are headed to the moon might not be back for fifty years


i mean no ill will with this im just playing around mosty you seem like a good dude

>>509361123
>there hasnt been a single filmed nuclear blast from anywhere in the world in fifty fucking years
Because every nation (not Israel) have signed onto a non proliferation treaty.

>>509366564
>i mentioned that mundane shadows existed among my first comments talking about the subject
Scroll up. You said nothing about them until I showed the picture.

>>509366605
>No. It plainly states that people thought he was vaporized, not that the vaporization had anything to do with the shadow itself.


you are just lying that entire paragraph is about how people initially thought the man was vaporized onto the concrete creating the image that was left behind but it was shown to be scientifically impossible they offer the shadow explanation as a potential alternative

>>509366583
You incorrectly claimed that dogs came from the same wolf species as modern wolves. The wolves that modern dogs stem from are extinct. You have lost all credibility in this thread now. Next time when arguing with others, make sure to stick to ONLY subjects you are knowledgeable in.

>>509365431
Dangerously based thread.
The entirety of world history since WW2 makes way more sense when you take as a given that nukes are fake and that the holocaust was exaggerated x30.

Why would they do such a thing?
Control.
By the end of WW2, the entire previously existing colonial system was neutered. All the men needed to keep the colonies died. America was uniquely positioned to benefit in the afterwar period, IF there was to be an afterwar period. You have to remember that the fighting in China at the time of Hiroshima/Nagasaki was still brutal, and the “allies” were worried about the USSR moving into weakened Asia. Remember that Stalin only declared war on Japan after the bombs were dropped.

What would have happened to Japan if nukes weren’t real?
Civilian bamboo spear charges into BARs?
It could have been the end of a unified Japan, and that power vacuum could easily have led to a communist revolution.

If you were the emperor, and you were given the option of killing half your population and dooming the other half in a feeble struggle against the Americans,
Or,
Do you team up with the Americans/jesuits and plant a few huge bombs you can pretend got dropped from above?
What if the Americans promised that you got to keep your castle, and your titles, and your whores? What if the Americans told you that they were keeping the loli islands open, too?
What if the US promised to defend you against the USSR, or China?
And all you have to do as the Japanese Son of God is agree that the American supermen developed a big super bomb with their big godlike Jew brains

>>509366661
Nah you’re on the right track

>>509366688
>Because every nation (not Israel) have signed onto a non proliferation treaty.


and all the nations of the world were drawn into world war 1 because they had signed so many treaties with each other and the arch duke was assassinated right? had nothing to do with israel (then called palestine) being in the posession of the austro hungarian empire who was in the three emporers agreement with germany and russia right? hey whatever happened to that empire anyway?

>>509366661
I mean its interesting topic but we have no way to conclude on either side until one of two things happens. Either a nuclear device is detonated or a government/country containing nuclear weapons is overthrown and the truth shown to the world.

>>509366727
It just says people thought he was vaporized. It doesn't even indicate that this was ever an "official" explanation so you're harping on about the opinions of randos.

Sweet a schizo thread

>>509366759
what the fuck nigga shut up. Its a figure of speech, we domesticated all sorts of canines and wolf adjacent dogs and made them fuck other dogs we wanted them too and turned them into the modern dogs which might aswell be like 200 different species of animals. Its fucking insane if you think about it.

>>509366873
>It just says people thought he was vaporized. It doesn't even indicate that this was ever an "official" explanation so you're harping on about the opinions of randos.


what they currently think now is equally retarded and you are retarded for believing it or more likely a paid liar) you might be right that you mentioned the mundane shadows first a lot of times i think "i have to include this or a shill will say that" and i end up not putting it in because my shit is already running long


it just smakes of holocaust emotional propaganda i was always aware of the mundane shadows but i just dont find them compelling i consider all those shadows to be set pieces exactly like the piles of shoes, they are overly emotional to the point of being saccharine i dont know how you can come here and not at least understand that aspect of it

Nuke is just this happy lie that people agreed upon because it maintain their power and control. ((Peace)) or so they said.

Dogs is the only reason I even believe HALF the dumb shit you see about race and race mixing and all that on this dumb website. I do think good training and a good owner... and proper breeding can fix things in any species.

>>509366902
No, it's insane that you are all over this thread arguing like a retard and then full on admitting that you don't even know basic facts about dogs, yet you want people to believe you did enough research on nukes.

I didn't say anything about nukes. I don't KNOW if they are real or not.

>>509359579 (OP)
You're why I hope Iran finishes their nuke soon and hits Israel. So tired of people saying they're fake.

>>509367130
>they are overly emotional to the point of being saccharine i dont know how you can come here and not at least understand that aspect of it
Yeah, it was effective propaganda. No shit.
But part of dealing with propaganda is being able to set aside the emotional aspect and take it for what it is.

I never needed the mechanism behind the shadows explained to me. It's pretty fucking straightforward how they formed. That you needed it explained to you and it somehow doesn't make sense to you is an IQ deficiency on your part.

>>509367243
I only said I BELIEVE in them because they confirm other beliefs I hold, but I am willing to shed them.

>>509367375
>Yeah, it was effective propaganda. No shit.
>But part of dealing with propaganda is being able to set aside the emotional aspect and take it for what it is.

a pile of bullshit like the shoes

>>509367375
>I never needed the mechanism behind the shadows explained to me. It's pretty fucking straightforward how they formed.

a super bright hot flash that seared there shadows onto the concrete but didnt blind a single person? come on man

>>509367340
Ok kike

The funniest shit is the possibility that though nukes are fake, in THEORY, scientists think they could work, so all of the people that have “nukes” and know they’re fake are terrified that somebody might actually invent a real one.

The kikes just want a reason to have a war, and the Zionists need a reason for Israel to be destroyed to have Jesus come back, so I’m just gonna get the popcorn for a bit and enjoy the kikes crying about anuddah shoah

>>509367340
You are tired because Nuke is basically your religion.

>>509367601
Correct. Iran is showed to have the best ballistic missile. This terrified them.

Iran actually try to develop a real nuke. While everyone in the world just agreed to this hoax science.

>>509367513
You keep saying "nobody was ever blinded" but you don't know that.
But since I'm actually in the mood to respond seriously to you unlike before, let's talk about that.

The blinded people would be those:
>were sufficiently close to the blast
>and survived
>with a direct line of sight to the flash
>and happened to be looking in its direction

So you're talking about a minority of a minority of a minority of a minority. It honestly wouldn't even be much of a surprise if nobody was blinded.

>>509367838
>You keep saying "nobody was ever blinded" but you don't know that.

no one knows that and thats how i know nobody was ever blinded


they would be blind for their whole lives and would be interviewed the man whos last sight was the atomic blast! theyd need assistance in order to live a record of them would exist

>>509367838
you are doing exactly what the AI pil pul was doing in my screenshot simultaneously saying people could have been blinded and then excusing why nobody was

>>509367898
>and would be interviewed the man whos last sight was the atomic blast!
Can't argue with that I suppose.

>>509367933
It's not pilpul. "That's not true and even if it was it doesn't make the point you think it does" is literally the gold standard of argumentation.

>>509364982
Yeah, there is 2 choice in this scenario

1.Israel has nuke but they never use it (lmao)
2.Israel never has nuke, but they said they have it (bluff/lie)

Imagine believing this liar to not lie.

>>509368351
you are pretending as though its probable that there might have been people blinded by the flash and they are just unknown you arent arguing in good faith when you do that its ridiculous

the answer to "were there any blinded at hiroshima?" is just NO

not "no count was made but perhaps few people were looking into the night sky"
imagine if i googled "did anyone get raped at the nickelodean kids choice awards on stage" and the answer was "Well nobody counted"

enough time has passed we can say NO no one was blinded by the flash at hiroshima or else i have to prove a negative yet again

>>509368351
Yes, some individuals at Hiroshima were blinded by the atomic bomb flash
.

Flashblindness: Many people experienced temporary blindness, also known as flashblindness, which can last for several minutes or even up to three hours.
Permanent Blindness: At least one person suffered permanent blindness due to the intense light of the blast.
Retinal Burns: Looking directly at the fireball could cause severe burns on the retina, leading to irreversible eye damage. This is because the eye's lens focuses the intense heat and light on the retina.
Conditions like Cataracts: Long-term effects of radiation exposure, including the flash, led to an increased risk of conditions like cataracts among survivors.

Important Considerations:

Distance and Protection: The severity of eye injury depended on the distance from the blast and whether any protection, like looking away or seeking shelter, was employed.
Night vs. Day: A nighttime blast likely would have caused more severe blinding effects because pupils are larger in the dark, allowing more light to enter the eye.

While no definitive count of blinded individuals exists, it's clear that the intense flash from the atomic bombing of Hiroshima had severe consequences for the vision of many, ranging from temporary flashblindness to permanent sight loss.
this is what the ai spits out if you google it now which is somehow worse, YES people were blinded, though no count was made


fucking who name one when you google a person who was blinded at hiroshima tsutomo yamaguchi comes up who supposedly was at both hiroshima and nagasaki but was supposedly only temporarily blinded


can you see that in good faith i have taken a hypothesis "if the nukes were real there would be permentantly blinded people thats very HARD TO FAKE" and i am getting this kind of fucking runaround? how does this not set off your jew meter like crazy?

>>509368503
>you are pretending as though its probable that there might have been people blinded by the flash and they are just unknown
That's an accurate characterization. Yes.
Unless you can go through the logs of every hospital that treated Hiroshima survivors then you can't really say anything definitive.
You're probably not going to find an example where someone's penis was melted to his scrotum by the heat but I don't doubt it happened to a few people.

>imagine if i googled "did anyone get raped at the nickelodean kids choice awards on stage"
Where this differs is you specified "on stage." That would be verifiable.
Now, whether anyone was ever raped in the bathroom at the kid's choice awards or some shit is a different story.

>enough time has passed
More time passing means we're less likely to ever get an answer on this, not more.

>>509369009
>>you are pretending as though its probable that there might have been people blinded by the flash and they are just unknown
>That's an accurate characterization. Yes.

then you are arguing in bad faith, its not probable that there were japanese permanently blinded by the flash of the A bomb and were never known

name one such permanently blinded individual, you cant neither can google. this is baloney

>>509368976
>Chat GPT

>>509369057
>its not probable that there were japanese permanently blinded by the flash of the A bomb and were never known
It's entirely likely if it was some nobody's who died in the hospital within a few weeks.
Again, the place you would go for this info is Japanese medical records (if they keep them for that long).

>>509369124
thats the point chat gpt gives the kosher responses everytime

i cant get a straight answer from anyone, this should be one of the most well known and talked about facts in history the A bomb was unique for its ability to potentially permanently blind an enemy but we dont know if it did or not no one checked


it doesnt matter if no one checked if no one comes forward in EIGHTY YEARS to say yeah i am blind i was blinded by the bomb we can safely say no one was blinded, but googles ai and the shills in this thread dont want to commit to that because it opens a can of worms about all the A bomb glasses and initial reports that the bomb if stared directly at would cause blindness which is why people who were allowed to watch the blasts were forced to wear special glasses and to literally TURN AWAY (Convenient) from the blast this was depicted in the recent oppenheimer movie the turning away from the blast and the glasses

>>509369232
>>its not probable that there were japanese permanently blinded by the flash of the A bomb and were never known
>It's entirely likely if it was some nobody's who died in the hospital within a few weeks.


there would be record of that, and having field tested a brand new bomb for the first and second to last time on fucking earth, the us military would have been very interested in whether or not the flash blinded people, THEY WOULD HAVE COUNTED

>>509369690
>there would be record of that
Yes. It's called "Japanese medical records."
That's where you'd go to find this shit. Maybe call up the Japanese government and tell them you're a researcher. It's a long shot that they'd release the records to you but it's been 80 years so who knows?

I don't think "blindness" would be a top priority for the military at that moment. As you indicated, it's pretty obvious they'd be capable of it. They were more interested in assessing infrastructure damage.

>>509370058
Why would you trust them if they were colluding with american to fake the nuke landing in the first place?

>>509370167
If you entertain that line of thinking then you can't know anything about anything.

>>509370419
I just know that Nuke is fake and gay because God is more powerful than Nuke. This world is too entertaining for God to end it.

>all the boomers in Nevada made it up
>The government just blew up billions of tons of tnt to put on a show

retarded all the way through

>>509370711
Those boomers were jews and military spooks and yes they used tnt to put on a show. They admit they used tnt before the trinity test to simulate a 'nuclear' explosion. At the actual trinity test there are pictures of people walking around ground zero after the explosion and the earth is barely scorched and everyone is fine. Its all fake.

meds: the thread

>>509371864
lol yeah you know people used to pay to watch it right? lol I feel bad for you people that think people are even capable of the level of cooperation. If that was the case then communism would be the best form of government

if they tell us something exist I assume it doesn't

if they tell us something doesn't exist I assume it does

>>509372372
Literally tnt shows.

>>509359579 (OP)
So do you think that nukes are just impossible technology, or that we just don't have them? Nukes today are much more powerful than that one. What do you think is loaded in our nuclear submarines?

>>509372892
oh yeah of course. They just gathered megatons of tnt to blow up for no reason

>>509373001
They did it to help sell the lie.

>>509373065
>millions of people cooperate with a narrative
wow I'm communist now

>>509359579 (OP)
Explain the Cold War then. It was all just theatre and Stalin + Ike and JFK + Khrushchev etc all had a good laugh over it after releasing their fake speeches and correspondence against each other?
Did each new president have to be briefed on how the whole issue they were just running on was a sham and they should just go with it?
Did both sides share super advanced special FX techniques to fake their tests that weren't known in the actual film industry for decades (if ever)?

You say shit like "but they never got a count of how many people went blind at Hiroshima" like that's a major reason to reject the reality of nukes when your own theory that they're fake introduces logic holes 100x larger. But this is the case with all of these fake well-poisoning conspiracy theories.

>>509359579 (OP)
Same as the moon landing and saulstianity, the more time passes, the more anons wake up to the fraudulent nature of those things.

>>509370058
>do your own research call japanese hospitals and ask for medical records from 1950
the answer is no one was blinded by the flash at hiroshima why are you being so cagey about that

>>509370058
>I don't think "blindness" would be a top priority for the military at that moment. As you indicated, it's pretty obvious they'd be capable of it. They were more interested in assessing infrastructure damage.


yeah im sure those dudes in america who were permanently blinded by the atomic flash were test subjects enough for this totally new feature of a weapon of war to blind people at great distances from the flash alone, who would need to study the only field tests ever conducted, hell forget about doing a study why even count?

>>509359579 (OP)
>I'm a nuke denialist.
and i think all denialists are gaslighting everyone into thinking they believe that to encourage the use of nukes.

no one needs to prove shit to you. nothing need happen whatsoever in response to you stating your thoughts on any topic, especially one like this.

>>509374038
>encourage the use of nukes.

i dare anyone in the world to use a nuke you wont

>>509373716
>millions can't conspire with a narrative
>covid doesn't count

>>509373936
>the answer is no one was blinded by the flash at hiroshima
The only correct answer is "I don't know, and you don't either."
If you want to know, check the medical records.

>>509374365
im pretty sure i know

>>509373802
>It was all just theatre
Yes nigger. Patton wanted to invade the USSR as it was the logical move and would have ended communism on the spot, he was rewarded for that idea by being assassinated by the US. The same jews had been controlling both governments for decades. What the goys believe doesn't matter, whenever one wants to actually fix the issue like Kennedy or Patton, their jew overlords kills them in broad daylight and get away with it.

>>509374365
>23 posts without any evidence just "it's totally real, you're stupid"
Where are those blinded people ?

>>509377054
>Patton wanted to invade the USSR
Lmao Mutts would get their ass kicked
Also what do you care about communism

>>509377151
Mutts are the only reason the USSR didn't get wrecked by Germany, they had no weapons left without US aid.

>what do you care about communism
>How does evil jews who murdered dozens of millions of Aryans and are continuing to do so to this day with propaganda flyers on every single street alongside tranny flags affect you? Mind your own biz and don't have the desire to genocide your enemies when expressing your healthy wish to live with your own race in peace is criminalized and punishable by death

>>509359579 (OP)
Definitely some good points in this thread. It would make sense that they're not real honestly, or at a minimum, they're heavily exaggerated for control and to make the goyims think nuclear=bad since nuclear power is so efficient. Good thread OP.

>>509377354
The idea of nukes allows for the following: casus belli against any country in the world no matter how remote (see iraq, iran), preventing any revolution by the people (the government has a magical end the world button, you can't do shit), creating deep hysteria like TDS ("omg Drumpf is gonna press the big red button any second now"), and fulfilling the atheist/antifa myths of infinite power technology that will allow us to eradicate race differences and achieve interracial transhumanist space communism.

>>509359579 (OP)
Is nuclear power real then?

>>509377499
Indeed, it all really reeks of jewish bullshit. And for anyone on here saying that a conspiracy this widespread isn't possible, well that's just nonsense, jews literally create hypnotic mass lies all the time and nobody bats an eye. Yeah, its looking like nukes are fake.

>>509377586
>If the holobunga isn't real, why do I have an oven in my kitchen?

>>509377685
>a conspiracy this widespread isn't possible
Volskwagen scandal. Much bigger number of employees than the moon landing, went against the wishes of the government, still took years to be discovered on something extremely basic. The just world fallacy is always insufferable, it posits as an axiom that no conspiracy can exist because "everyone is perfect, extremely intelligent and skeptic, and the only reason one would tell something false is because they're conscious liars". No, most people are lemming retards who repeat what they heard, they aren't liars. Doctors injecting you with toxic and useless jabs aren't scheming liars rubbing their hands, they're just retards.

>>509377819
Very true, and that happens to be one of the scariest facts of it all. Humanity will never progress until actual self-reflecting Aryans are in power. Nature clearly has designated many peoples and races to be followers and never question their authority, this is all well and good, but only when the ones who are fit to be in power are actually in power. This world of illusions were are currently in is unprecedented, and it took much less effort on the jews part than anyone would imagine.

>>509377819
You misunderstand my question. Nuclear power is a contained nuclear reaction, while a nuclear bomb is an uncontrolled nuclear reaction. One is harder than the other to create, guess which one that is. If you agree nuclear power is real, which uses the same principles as a nuclear bomb, then how can you believe nuclear bombs arent real or an impossibility?

>>509378155
I'll leave that one to anons who know the process better than I, I'll just say that theory and practice are two different things.

>>509378126
Power has always been in the hands of a few, the only difference is whether they're good or bad people. My take on democracy, power and propaganda is unironically Mein Kampf's. Hitler had some flashes of absolute truth in there.

>>509377054
Laughable

>>509377314
>Mutts are the only reason the USSR didn't get wrecked by Germany, they had no weapons left without US aid.
That's not quite true.
Lend lease helped Soviets greatly but
>it accounted for like 30% of their ordnance and provisions
It's a lot but far from "Soviets had nothing". Soviets had a massive military in terms of planes, tanks and so on, more than Germans at the start of Barbarossa
>Lend lease started coming in sufficient amounts AFTER Soviets won Barbarossa
And even then it accounted for like less than 15%. It was only by the end of 1943 it reached (almost) 30%.
It's likely Germans would lose anyway but the war would be longer and Soviets would have no obligations after so they'd take France too.
You fell for the Lend lease meme.
>Americans also financed Germany
The amount of German gear was in large thanx to American money.
Also, you could argue that without Soviets Americans wouldn't defeat Japan which surrendered not after nukes but after Soviets invaded Manchuria.
I'm not saying Japan would won but it's the same argument as for Soviet victory or defeat without Lend lease.
Also, if Germany defeated Soviets then they'd get all their resources and industry and would be unstoppable and Japan was with them
>evil jews who murdered dozens of millions of Aryans and are continuing to do so to this day with propaganda flyers on every single street alongside tranny flags
Communists weren't pro tranny, retard and Stalin didn't have blue hair. It's 100% Judeo American capitalist invention and also those "millions of Aryans" is bullshit.

>>509377819
>If the holobunga isn't real, why do I have an oven in my kitchen?
False equivalency.
Are you saying
>Holocaust isn't real but ovens are just like Hiroshima wasn't real but nukes are
Or
>Holocaust isn't real because ovens are fake just like Hiroshima wasn't real because nukes are fake
Were Chernobyl and Fukushima fake, are nuclear power plants fake

>>509378467
>Communists weren't pro tranny, retard and Stalin didn't have blue hair. It's 100% Judeo American capitalist invention and also those "millions of Aryans" is bullshit.

Jews realized after their experiment in East/West Berlin that is was far more effective to control the goyims with psychological warfare than guns pointed at their faces. Communism has always been a term synonymous with judaism, it just takes on many different faces and evolves over time. It always accomplishes the same end goal, and that is complete and utter control of the goyim. Communism and leftism have the same root, albeit totally different aspects of approach, but each work towards the end goal.

>>509378293
Nukes are actually harder to make than reactors. My point is that they use so many of the same principles, harnessing energy from radioactive material. Its by far the best energy source in the world, I dont understand why people think its impossible to make an explosive chain reaction with something you can create immense amounts of electricity from with very little physical matter. The energy is obviously there already.

>>509378724
Yeah, but the (((Croatian))) is an obvious shill.
>Duh of course my cancer today has nothing to do with that of the past, that of the past was much smaller, now I have a much bigger one, that means they are 2 different ones!

>>509378748
I can't answer on the technical details, but you will never make me believe that jews, arabs and jeets have had the "wipe X country out" for decades and never once even tested it.

>>509378155
This kills the "nukes are fake" theory. I guess they lied about Chernobyl, Fukushima and Tree Mile island as well

>>509378724
>Communism always accomplishes the same end goal, and that is complete and utter control of the goyim.
Yet the country most subservient to Jews for the past 250 years is the most anti communist country ever
>American wars post WW2 are either:
>For Jewish interests in the ME
>Against communists
So how do you explain that

>>509378748
>Nukes are actually harder to make than reactors.

>>509359579 (OP)
im here to tell you once and for all that nukes are real 100%

>and the US has a shitload of them

>>509359579 (OP)
einstein's theory is just that, a wild, crazy, schizophrenic, delusional made up crackpot theory.

they firebombed japan. it was a critical hit and extremely effective. they wanted the rest of the world to think the USA could roll them that easy.

they were blowing up huge piles of TNT. and doing scale model "tests" just like they faked the moon landings. its called a "psyop" its to trick your enemies into giving up by convincing them they are outmatched.

>>509360079
you honestly deserve a whimsical ban.. in the least.

>>509378858
It really does.
Even though nukes are harder to create than reactors, its much of the same principles. Are people awere of how energy dense uranium actually is? One 500 kg (ca. 1000lbs) fuel rod can power 2000 houses for a year. That is insane energy density. A nuke is taking that energy and releasing it all at the same time in a violent chain reaction. It really isnt that hard to understand.

>>509379022
>Yet the country most subservient to Jews for the past 250 years is the most anti communist country ever
No shit, as if the entirety of jewish control doesn't depend on this vs that (democrats vs republicans, etc.). Communism and capitalism are two sides of the same jewish coin.

>>509379092
Yeah basically, you just refine fuel more and have to be more careful about radioactivity.

>>509359579 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy6-ZKWCoH0

>>509379187
>It really does.
Nice argument but you're wrong. It took them 10 years after the first nukes to make a usable nuclear power plant

>>509379229
>Communism and capitalism are two sides of the same jewish coin.
I don't see Jews dictating CCP policies

>>509379092
Its true though, I thought it was inverse before I looked it up. Its counter intuitive. They made the first reactor before the first bomb to enrich the uranium they needed to create the bomb, and the process of actually triggering the precise chain reaction needed for a nuclear bomb is more difficult than creating a stable reactor.

>>509377314
Such a myth. The other one you hear is that the best units were sent to the western front. In reality the USSR vastly outproduced anything the axis could do and destroyed their best units in operations in western Ukraine and the Carpathians. It was actually the US in Europe that was prepared for the possibility of a failed invasion on D-day and the time afterwards. Eisenhower walked around a pre-written speech in that event.

>>509379324
Just to be clear. I think nukes are obviously real.
We disagree on whats harder to make. A nuclear bomb or a nuclear reactor.

>>509379394
Kek

I like the idea of armies of military historians (and translators) descending on hiroshima and recording a metadata-tagged index of every random joe sikusupacku's injuries
>if someone was blinded THEY'D KNOW
indeed, that's why the sources say "many were blinded"
if you want an index, put together a team of 12 bilingual grad students and apply for a research grant son

>>509360079
>Nuclear explosions are definitely real.
But the result isn't the same.
Why do you think hydrogen is the first element in the periodic table?

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>>509379727
>indeed, that's why the sources say "many were blinded

what are the sources? who was blinded name a victim. when you try to google it it just gives you one dude who was temporarily blinded the run around is what gives the kikery away

>>509379947
your chart makes it seem like nuclear explosions are even easier to produce than nuclear power so why is it that a country like iran has nuclear power but has been unsuccessfully trying to develop a bomb for thirty years

>>509379691
>Several AMERICAN Jews tried to get a foothold in China 70 years ago
>None was ever in control of anything
Meanwhile in the USA
>All the entertainment and media are Jew owned
>70% of academia is Jewish
>8 out of last 10 secretaries of treasury were Jews
>Chabad rabbi Schneerson's birthday is a national holiday in the USA
>American presidents bow to the wall and write praises to Chabad
>American debate is a liberal Jew arguing with a Zionist Jew about what's best for America

>>509380151
They had capability to make one since the 80s if you trust Bibi
They are under pressure not to make them, probably also bribed not to do it and they did agree to NP treaty
Also
>There's a country that has nukes but no operational nuclear power plants
Guess which one

>>509359579 (OP)
I see my attempts at red pilling others are not in total vain.

Nukes are such an obvious Jew lie it's even kind of funny. Obvious Jew psy-op is obvious. Nukes are just a flashier version (heh, get it?) of the holohoax lie. All the paralels are the same.
They tried to get it to work during the Manhattan project but failed. Now Israel us using the Nuke threat lie to invade Iran. Before this Israel used the WMD threat lie to destabilize Iraq and Afghanistan in 2003. It's always Jews. Always.

All the Jew Hollywood movies revolve around nukes or fake viruses too to keep the goyim in line. Once you see it there's no turning back.

>>509380426
what does that mean if they had the capacity to make one why wouldnt they? if they have nuclear power plants they should be able to make a nuke and even if they did who cares since everyone seems universally obliged to mutally assured destruction right?

>>509380533
>if they had the capacity to make one why wouldnt they?
They will now. You think Japan can't make a nuke ? I said already, they signed the NPT, they allowed inspections, they had a choice of agreeing and getting money or being sanctioned etc.
They could make a nuke for years now, they had the centrifuges and everything, it's not a secret

>>509381120
so what if they due wont they also be bound to the iron rule of MAD? its been good enough to keep a nuke from being dropped by anyone on anyone else since the first time eighty years ago. shit legalize nukes

>>509381373
>so what if they due wont they also be bound to the iron rule of MAD?
Nigga what
Look, it's simple
>America gets the nuke before Soviets
>Yet Soviets get the first power plant
>Americans need 12 years after the first bomb to make a power plant
>China gets its first nuke in 64
>Gets its first power plant in 85
etc
Obviously nukes are simpler
The countries that have power plants but not nukes are that way because they don't want them, safety risks and maintenance costs for a meme weapon that can't be used but they do have the capability and they will now make a nuke.
I think they have them already frankly.

>>509381641
>>509381641
>>so what if they due wont they also be bound to the iron rule of MAD?
>Nigga what
>Look, it's simple
>>America gets the nuke before Soviets


five years before the soviets, what about power tells you that we would just sit on it for years and not immediately beat our enemies knowing they would likely be developing the same bomb? this shit dont make no damn sense my man

>>509382085
>five years before the soviets, what about power tells you that we would just sit on it for years and not immediately beat our enemies knowing they would likely be developing the same bomb?
>so what if they due wont they also be bound to the iron rule of MAD?
Are you a nigger or an ESL your sentences make no sense

>>509361936
Exactly. Asians and Whites can build civilization and thus rebuild and maintain it. Niggers cannot so everything they touch turns to and remains a pile of rubble.

>>509382265
how many times are you gonna harp on the same typo i mean do instead of due quite obviously ive been in this thread on and off for 12 hours its not moving fast enough to have past the bump limit in that time i am going to bed though
maybe if its still up tomorrow i will come back and see the names of blinded japanese from the flash at hiroshima but i sincerely doubt it

>>509382350
>have past
passed* id never hear the end of that one im going to bed niggy