Thread 509402495

why did usa lose in vietnam?

isn't Constantinople next, following the annexation of Ukraine?

>>509402495 (OP)
becus of teh joooooos

>>509402495 (OP)
Same reason we / the Soviets lost in Afghanistan, you can't defeat a population-based insurgency without mass genocide which would undercut your overarching political aims. Nothing short of razing North Vietnam to the ground would've won us that war in hindsight.

>>509402495 (OP)
They should have nuked Vietnam if didn't what to lose.

>>509402495 (OP)
Japan already invaded and took the rare gear and epic rare super items.

>>509402495 (OP)
Foreign aid

Vietnamese rice farmers didn't roll their own SAMs

>>509402495 (OP)
Laws

>>509402495 (OP)
USA can't win against non whites

>>509402633
that's actually true
the kike media played a big role

>>509402873
The point of the war was to prevent Communist influence from expanding in the region though and nuking half of Vietnam would guarantee that both sides remained perma-radicalized against America for the foreseeable future. It would've played right into the Soviet's hands.

>>509402495 (OP)
Foreign aid

Vietnamese rice farmers didn't roll their own SAMs

>>509402660
We never learn do we? Maybe if we trying to save our own country.

>>509403115
>Be North Vietnam
>Launch Tet Offensive
>Get your shit kicked in
>It ends up turning the tide of war in your favor because the American media spun it as a huge win for you to the general public

>>509402495 (OP)
Because Caucasians are inferior to many races

>>509402495 (OP)
It didnt
Vietnam today is literally what they wanted it to be back in the early 1960s.

>>509402495 (OP)
Nonsensical war goals, undefined tactical objectives, and the US just doesn’t have the stomach for long ears like that.

The official objective was a free and democratic™ Vietnam, but this was always something the Vietnamese people would have to decide they wanted. And to prevent the spread of communism under the domino theory, but given how Vietnam had been treated siding with the communist over the west was pretty much a default for Vietnam.
Tactically all we had was drop bombs and go out and kill Vietcong and NVA, point at the kill count, and declare victory. Hard strategic objectives didn’t exist or weren’t something the US could easily get to so dead gooks was the only real metric of success.m
And the us public just isn’t used to long grueling wars and getting to see what that looks like. Most wars the US had been in up to that point had been either quick, isolated from the general public, easy to justify, or some combination. The US doesn’t have the same history as a lot of the world where regional and occasional large scale conflict pop up every generation or mass suffering is the standard day to day. Or extremly limited involvement in World War One heavily scarred us to the point the majority of Americans had a “those European fags tricked us. I ain’t fighting their wars for them no more” mentality until Japan directly attacked us in 41

If the US actually continued pushing we would have eventually ground the NVA to dust and occupied the whole thing, but the will just wasn’t there to do it.

>>509403457
why do you ignore the fact that vietcong guerillas successfully infiltrated usa occupied south cities?

When the only thing you can take out is rice farmers

>>509402495 (OP)
paper tigers

>>509402495 (OP)
because limpwisted hippie pinkos pressured the goverment into pulling out

>>509405225
The same reason you ignore that vietnam today is what the US always wanted. Because you dont know anything about the war or much of anything else. The US didn't occupy the cities. ARVN did. Do you even know what the viet cong were? Ofc not. The reason the US rules the world right now is because its remarkably effective in achieving its political and strategic aims. Much more so than anyone else. Maybe instead of coping about a war from decades ago you look around you right now. Your area of the world is a total american victory tho I'm sure you naively believe the US lost wars there. Funny how the US loses wars yet always gets what it wants huh? Its almost like war is just of many tools for achieving political objectives and not an end unto itself.

>>509402495 (OP)
>why did usa lose in vietnam?

First war that niggers were allowed to be drafted into combat roles & it unironically buck-broke the nation at the idea of blacks getting drafted

that was it

literally
a giant "george-floyd" style protest movment (hippie shit) erupted and liberalism killed the country

>>509402495 (OP)
It was mever about winning it was always about sending Americans to die for the MIC.

>>509402495 (OP)
what blew up today?

>>509408683
that's what you get for slavery
and then abolishing slavery

this is a forever war until the last timmy/tyrone is dead

>>509402495 (OP)

Because it was prosecuted by a generation who grew up believing the propaganda about how grand and wonderful and epic and heroic WW2 were.

they wanted glory and they got punji sticks covered in disease.

>>509402495 (OP)

We didn't lose. Its just that liberals made such a stink about the war at home, that America had to stop packing vietnamese fudge and come home.
The 60s were a mistake.

>>509402627
Wtf? Really? I'm pro russia now,liberate Constantinople now!

>>509408450
>vietnam today is what the US always wanted
What are you taking about? The US is constantly chimping out about Vietnam working too closely with China

>>509410077
>We didn't lose, we just surrendered preemptively
Cope

>>509410375

>surrendered
lol
lmao

>>509402495 (OP)
Why did Turkey lose like half its territory to the Mamluks? Go to /his/ if you want to talk about ancient wars.

>>509405225
Fucking gorillas ruined everything

>>509402495 (OP)
> "Lose"
US combat troops left in 1973
War ends in 1975
How can you lose a war that you're not involved in?
Are you retarded?
Is simple math too hard for you?

>>509410457
That's what fleeing a war you started with your tail tucked between your legs means, yes.

>>509411035

>fleeing a war
>successfully destroyed the country and left enough mines that people are still blowing up today
lol
lmao

>>509410375
>>509411035
You are a massive retard that can't do math
Keep coping faggot

>>509410342
I suggest you check the news instead of coping. The reason we gave up on south vietnam to begin with was that nixon's diplomatic rapprochement with china and pulling them away from the soviet camp, which north vietnam was tied to, negated the whole point of the war in the first place. Today vietnam is still opposed to china and is both a sweat shop for western multinationals and a new open market for the exports. America always win here.

>>509411214
Except the Communists took over the country we "destroyed" and the entire reason we were there in the first place was to prevent that so...

>>509411532
You've never been to Vietnam and you don't know anyone Vietnamese

>>509411532

>Leaves Vietnam
>Goes on to continue ruling the world to this very day
>tHeY sURrENdErED
lol
lmao

Get a job, dirty commie.

>>509402495 (OP)
Because we held back. We should've nuked Veitnam

>>509403023
Yeah because when we start killing non-whites at a rate necessary necessary to win wars, white women, niggers, communists, etc. throw a fit and exert enough political pressure to stop any meaningful fighting.

>>509411643
>>509411726
These copes don't even have anything to do with the post you're replying to. I can't even say "nice try" to either of you.