What exactly caused this? Seriously what caused this? It’s insane kids want nothing to do with each other anymore. Is it divorce culture?

>>509409907 (OP)
Jeets are incels kek

how many women age 18-25 approached men in person?
guess we're importing shitskins

>>509409907 (OP)
Global-consciousness-antisemitism (GCA). Every man under 50 is hyper-focused on destroying judaism right now. We're busy.

>>509409907 (OP)
What causes incels
>social media
>>anime
>>video games
>>>kpop
>>arrested development
>>enabling and failed parenting
>>lack of mental health treatment

>>509409907 (OP)
I’ve only ever approached women on dating apps. Cold approach never works for me and I’ve seen videos of dudes being humiliated from it

>>509411135
>kekistan
>vidya, anime
No, what creates incels are kikes like YOU

>>509409907 (OP)
>see your whore mother divorce rape your father and ruin his life, driving him to suicide
>Okay anon, now its time for you to find a special girl and settle down and get married
Assuming you can overcome your crippling anxiety to talk to a girl, deal with the rejection, then maintain a relationship (female demands have 10X increased in the last 20 years for the old boomer faggots who have not realized this) assuming you make it through all the bullshit.....you know whats waiting for you at the end of the tunnel when you get married. She will cheat on your then divorce you, then take the kids from you and then you will sit alone in a small shitbox apartment in poverty working a full time job with all the money going to your alimony and child support payments while you drink your self into a stupor every night and stare at a loaded gun. You know this is how the story ends because you saw it with your father and every other older divorce-raped man in your life when you were growing up. If this is what the end result it going to be for with a 90-95% probability then why not just smoke week and play vidya games till you die? Do you just want a young man who ruin his life by marrying a whore and end up killing himself in a divorce as long as he shits out 3-4 kids and gets the birth rate up. He is supposed to do all that just so you random larping wignat niggers can stick it to the jews?

>>509409907 (OP)
>What exactly caused this? Seriously what caused this?
hookup culture became the new norm but the overwhelming majority of guys are not and never have been conducive to it.

>>509409907 (OP)
I tried talking to girls when I was in middle school but failed spectacularly. My ego never recovered.

>>509411091
Unfathomably based.

>>509409907 (OP)

>>509409907 (OP)
I never wanted to approach a woman, but from you g age I was told by society, films, tv, that that was what you had to do. Now boys are told approaching women is sexual assault. They must feel relief I never got!

>>509409907 (OP)
My advice to you is to go for non white women if you can deal with the stench.

>>509409907 (OP)
What do people do in school all day?

>>509411327
You will never know the joys of pussy. You will be forever alone.

>>509409907 (OP)
I did it only twice. I'm 29 I don't want anything to do with modern women they're like spoiled children even if they are adults. I'm gonna escortmaxx

no joke and I'm not trying to shift blame off myself - when I was a teenager, the prevailing narrative from girls was that cold approaching a girl was not appropriate and it made girls feel uncomfortable. obviously it wasn't like you would ruin your life if you did it, but I distinctly remember it being a commonly held view among girls that if you weren't sure you should cold approach a girl, then you definitely shouldn't do it. I (and I assume many other guys) took this to heart, and lived with the "I don't wanna be THAT guy" mindset, and the longer you go like that, the harder it becomes to cold approach.
Like I said, I'm not shifting the blame off myself, but it's the reason I turned out to be sort of "afraid of girls" in my young adulthood.

>>509409907 (OP)
Lack of quality women.

>>509409907 (OP)
Most incels are blacks or asians

shitskin incel thread award

>>509409907 (OP)
Reminder that most "sex offenders" aren't guys who fucked kids, they're guys who "approached" the wrong women.

>>509409907 (OP)
>What exactly caused this?
Women flipping their hair at me while simultanesouly giving me a dirty look while trying to look any direction other than me.

Women don't know what the fuck they want and I'm not going to try and figure out which one of the 10 signs they're throwing out is real. Young girls also stare slack jawed if you ask them anything like their brains just short circuited.

>>509409907 (OP)
Feminism mostly. No man wants to be accused of being some rapey creep.

The average young man is constantly signalled that women don't want to talk to them.
I mean I personally believe that men should kind of view "society" as an adversary of sorts but they're raised not as boys who will become men but as defective girls in a female oriented and female driven educational system.
The cruel part about the predicament of males in general is that they're failed over and over by the society and system that raise them and then blamed themselves for entering adulthood in a fucked up state. That happened to millennials and that's why there all fags now in their 30s or so, it happened to Gen Z and that's why they're all depressed and lost and it's happening to Gen Alpha right now and who knows what kind of problems those kids are going to have in 10 or 20 years? Not to mention the looming consequences of literally every other bad idea spread throughout our whole existence like a cancer. The world is going to be an even more difficult place for the people who are children today and our society is doing literally anything but preparing them to deal with hardship.

>>509409907 (OP)
its a lot safer if women do the approaching. its bad most of the time when we do it.

Because my chud farm is a financial success

>>509409907 (OP)
Men have video games and porn which allows them to get what they want out of life in easier and risk-free ways. This also means they don’t mature or achieve anything and so women aren’t attracted to them.

Women are worse than ever before and have higher standards than ever before. And because of social media and dating apps they have easy access to men way better than the normal guys around them.

>>509409907 (OP)
Seems the trend has shifted boyos, now the girls want to be approached. Do your grooming and off you go.
Those who never try will never succeed.

>>509414793
>listening to wiminz
That's where you fucked up

>>509418865
Holy cope

Humiliation ritual

Also women throw themselves at you if you are chad

>>509409907 (OP)
It's called phones being used as a security blanket so many never pushed themselves to socialize with women.

>>509410845
Yeah this is my problem with feminism. They all claim to be equal yet women will never take the initiative when it comes to dating. They still intrinsically expect men to initiate.

IF CHAD DOESNT EXIST.
>pushes detonator
THEN CHUD WILL SUFFICE.

I can't believe this is only the 10th time we've had this thread. It seems like it should be more.

>. . .
>>509416597

Thread is lies.

Women will approach you if you were good looking enough. Women always initiate, if not by approaching then by eye fucking you and making up shit to be around you.

And so the real issue here is inflated hole self image.

>>509420180
ah yes, those pesky women in muslim countries for sure go around approaching men. Very believable. Very real.

>>509413035
Are you autistic
Are you ugly
Do you take showers often

>>509409907 (OP)
Women are very privileged and abuse that power. I don’t blame these dudes

>>509420285
She’s not gonna ask you out retard, but if she goes out of her way to talk to you, she’s basically telling you to ask her out.

>>509409907 (OP)
Women have all the power in the modern world therefore they should be the ones approaching.

>>509420180
>only talked to related woman
>will be arranged married off to some slag he's never seen
>muzzie rizz expert
Why are they like this?
You only talk to woman who to you kekekeke

>>509409907 (OP)
woke bullshit + the war against males
even my very Lefty co-workers say schools treat boys like second-class citizens

>>509409907 (OP)

divorce culture? no, you gave power to women and they don t want to deal with lesser men

kids recognize this and don t want to be humiliated

you have patriarchal cultural expectations but the facto power in women's hands when chads are not involved

>>509419515
My favorite thing about this site is that everyone finds something to entertain themselves with.
You hunt down spam. Nobody pays you to do it.
Yet here you are.

>>509420470
>but if she goes out of her way to talk to you,
this doesn't happen either. Maybe if you are at a party or social event and you are a good looking man then maybe.

>>509420750
Things change fast; we got jewed hans, we got jewed bad.

>>509409907 (OP)
Had a girlfriend when I was 11. She asked and I said sure. Relationship lasted 6 months. Never asked a girl since or used tinder, instagram, snapchat. Never drank alcohol, drugs, snus or cigarettes.

>>509409907 (OP)
we have more important issues
>>509416597

>>509412857
>you gotta have some kids that you only exist as a check in the mail to, because well you just gotta

>>509409907 (OP)
It's just men reacting to the environment they find themselves in.

>>509411135
>not having a father
>women having de facto institutional power
etc.

Not approaching used goods sorry.

>>509409907 (OP)
Why would you have to?
Women come to me.

what the fuck am i supposed to do
all the women i talk to have had sex with like a dozen people

>>509418865
>Muh vidya and porn
Those are symptoms of a problem you idiot. Women are so god awful men just say fuck it and do their own thing. In video games you actually can communicate with other people. Talking with other people. Crazy concept, I know. Gamers are friendly, welcoming, open and cool. Women are frigid, toxic, closed and lame. To say the least.

I get on a dating app and I can't get a single fucking chat. I get on a video game and I can be squading up and talking with other players immediately. Women are a miserable waste of time and effort. Men have given up with women because there's nothing to find amongst their cursed kind.

>>509411135
everything you just listed applies to me and i've had sex lol

>>509409907 (OP)
I punched a girl in 2nd grade for picking on me, got in massive trouble. Never wanted to be around girls again. They still make me horny so I jack off to porn.

>>509409907 (OP)
I don't need to. Women approach me.

>>509409907 (OP)
I'm not a brown virgin who posts off topic women threads on 4chan everyday, I'll be having sex later today when my gf gets off work.

>>509409907 (OP)
45% of Men Age 18-25 Have Never Bought food in a store. They click on kike homepages and expect success. Genetic dead ends.

>>509409907 (OP)
Bitch I am 29 and
>higher than average income for my age bracket
>have a PhD and good career prospect (not academia)
>have my own home and a car
>195cm
>fit
>not balding (not yet at least)
>no health problems
>have both parents with whom I hold good relations
them bitches should approach ME

>>509413035
Yea, that shit can fuck you up lmao. Not worth the squeeze anyway, women are the biggest waste of time

>>509420180
Rare flag

>>509424785
I'm homeless fucking NEET and women approach me, maybe you just ugly? Or even worse, brown?!

>>509409907 (OP)
Women aren't worth a shit anymore.
Jerk off, no porn. You'll be fine.

>>509421478
>Had a girlfriend when I was 11. She asked and I said sure.
the best scenario

>>509411091
based

I don't need to approach. My tall red haired freckled bunny overbite Goddess will come to me.

>>509411135
>>>>kpop
love twice
love stayc
simple as

I never approach. I want women to approach me which they did often back in college and women do it at work but they are all married so I never engage with their approaches.

>>509409907 (OP)
Honestly why? I'm perfectly content alone. I enjoy the peace and quiet structure of my life, and whenever I feel the need for social contact I go out with friends. What do I have to gain from having to compromise and adjust to another person? This might be worth it if you had some long-term security when starting a family, but with 1/3 of marriages ending in divorce your odds are better at russian roulette. I don't want to waste so much time and effort on a marriage that is not unlikely to end in failure and wouldn't only depress me, but also traumatize my kids.
>but pussy
Really? Is this truly the only reason, the only worth there is to women? If you can think of no better argument than this, then I hope we swiftly go extinct and pit an end this cruel cosmic comedy

>>509409907 (OP)
I did approach but they all rejected me, even this month
Oh well I tried

>>509421943
>A woman can take your kids and force this situation onto you at her leisure because...well she just can okay, it's the law! This is a man's world after all and she's just a poor little woman!

I've never approached a woman to ask for her number, I slept with 6 of them in my youth and I've been married for 15 years.
But on paper I'm an incel cause I never made the first move

>>509426846
Kpop is okay, but don't ever get memed into going to SKorea, it's an absolute toilet.
It's just Vietnam with a marketing budget

>>509409907 (OP)
Just a coincidence that 45% of women will be alone and childless by 2030
0 correlation at all

If you are the one who has to approach her, you have already lost and corner-stoned your useful tool status

>>509420180
Not a flag I ever thought I'd agree with about women, but there you go.

>>509409907 (OP)
i have never kissed a woman, and never had any urge for women companionship and i am over 25.

Most of the 20th century was filled with philosophers like Hess and Rand speculating on ones "place in the world" and gave people delusions their life mattered at all.
Luckily we seem to be going through some awakening in the new millennium where everyone is realizing that the most genetically fit among us reproducing is the only thing that ever mattered in existence, and all our other lives are absolutely trivial and dumb to speculate on

>>509421019
Mate this definitely does happen in all areas of life.
In ye olde depictions, princesses drop their handkerchief to give men an excuse to pick it up for her and initiate a conversation.

They do this shit all the time if you're paying attention.

>Asking you a dumb question
>Sighing and saying "well that's just great" out loud
>Asking you for help with something
>Asking the group a question and then making sure you answer
>Hanging around you, glued to their phone but in a non commital way
>Talking to the group but looking at you

If you pay attention, women do try to make contact.
Sure, some are doing it to up their orbiter count by 1, but some just want an excuse to talk to you

>>509432700
Furthermore, you need to stop wanting to make contact.
Just talk to women, take them up on every one of these cues and see how it goes.
Don't need it to work out. If you don't need it, then if you got the wrong impression and she leaves, you can just find it funny.

Don't think
>What's so wrong with me that she cant even stand to be near me? I'll never find somebody
Think
>Kek walking away is a bit dramatic, but alright

If you're not going to inherit a house in a really nice neighborhood then forget it.

In Vancouver that's a minimum $3 million and up.
You will be shit in the bitches eyes untill they hit 65 then they will be crazy to be with you but by then forget it.

>>509426913
>women do it at work but
are you gay ?

>>509433212
Why give a girl who is already proving she cheats on her guy as much as the time of the day and validate her when whores are like $50?

>>509411091
Excuse me, anon. You dropped this

>>509409907 (OP)
you threw all the boys in jail for approaching girls
what the fuck did you think would happen

>>509409907 (OP)
Normal people start dating through mutual friends, they don't cold approach women in public. That shit is for the movies, i blame hollywood.
You need to be happy and high on your ego before you attempt that. And Men aren't happy.

>>509434366
All of my friends either don't know any women or know 1 (their gf). Is this not common?

>>509409907 (OP)
It isn't one thing. Complex problems don't have causes, they have contributions.

For me the biggest thing was a combination of being ugly (few options, fear of being perceived as a creep etc) and moral confusion (not knowing what to do from a right-vs-wrong perspective when options do present themselves, and choosing inaction for fear of hurting someone). By moral confusion I mean that everything surrounding sex is heavily moralized by feminism, and well-meaning men also have an innate instinctive sense of some things being right or wrong, but there is absolutely no attempt to explain what appropriate behavior actually looks like. We are all told that it's very easy to be inappropriate and hurt someone, but when it comes to appropriate behavior it's always just "lol work it out for yourself lmao". Contrast this with Christianity. It also heavily moralized sex, but it also made it very clear and unambiguous what appropriate behavior looks like, so while the society is moralized, there's is no moral confusion and everyone can act with confidence.

K-selected people need a framework to balance individual needs/desires against what is best for society. The current order has taken that framework away and forbidden us from replacing it with anything, so K-selected people become dysfunctional. The modern social environment is r-selecting, which is why it's only high IQ, high-empathy, socially conscious types who are experiencing an "incel crisis". The average nigger/wigger/cholo/gopnik/etc isn't suffering, he's having the time of his life creating hundreds of single mothers etc.

>>509409907 (OP)
absolutely based
let them approach you, let them beg for it, for your seed, your lechita, give it to me give it to me please pliiise

>>509434504
You should know women from high school and college, right? That's typically where it starts. If you miss that window then you're stuck with online dating. Or work maybe, i don't fucking know.

>>509419395
It's even worse than that, since the asymmetry in moral accountability means the burden to initiate shouldn't even be equal, it should primarily lie with women.

If a man makes a wanted move then great.
If a woman makes a wanted move then great.
This is equal.

If a man makes an unwanted move he's a creep, rapist, etc => people get hurt.
If a woman makes an unwanted move no man is going to be offended, they'll be flattered, it will boost their confidence etc => nobody gets hurt.
This is not equal.

Nothing can go wrong when a woman makes the move, therefore the burden of making the move should lie with the woman because this avoids the possibility of people getting hurt. The problem is women don't do this because of their biology. They need men to make the move because their sexual psychology isn't geared around love, it's geared around separating the wheat from the chaff, and thus they want men to put themselves at risk of hurting themselves and others as a kind of test-of-fitness. When you take feminist morality and combine it with female nature you make it impossible to achieve the optimal outcome where people behave in the manner in which it's guaranteed that nobody gets hurt. Under feminist morality the nobody-gets-hurt option is the one where women make the move, but female psychology always wants the men to make the move to prove their fitness, so K-selected men just get stuck in this awkward position where being moral means being unfit and where being fit means being immoral, while r-selected men don't care and just put their dicks in everything. This r/K asymmetry is why the middle class is experiencing a fertility crisis while the ultra-rich and ultra-poor are shitting out kids constantly.

The rich are mostly K-selected in a K-selecting environment => they can breed.
The middle class are mostly K-selected in an r-selecting environment => they can't breed.
The poor are mostly r-selected in an r-selecting environment => they can breed.

>>509432700
>>509433047
>tfw too much of a sperg to notice these things, if they’ve ever happened at all.
What the fuck am I supposed to do?

>>509409907 (OP)
Women being disgusting poopy butts who laugh at bad jokes but berate you in public when you make a good one while wanting your dick in private.
Distrust is encouraged. DTA, don't trust anybody.
Also women want to compete with men. That's fine, but it means we don't fraternise (they say want that type of man-friend experience too) and don't socialise, because we're in competition now.

>>509411091
Super Special Forces ar bissie wiv securing objectifs in sandland
No has tiem 4 hole in one wiv the big fun

>>509415864
The rare good leafpost.

>>509436392
Honestly just keep trying even if you don't notice/aren't sure. It's like a muscle anon you need to use it for it to grow. If you aren't comfortable talking to women that would be a good place to start. Get comfortable asking women out and making small talk. It will be awkward at first and you'll get rejected a lot but that's the only way for you to work on it

>>509409907 (OP)
Is it approached as in never asked a girl out or never asked a girl out in person?
Cause most dating happens through the internet, however gay that might be.