Thread 509412525

>>509412525 (OP)
Makes exports more competitive. Thats how china does it.

>>509412525 (OP)
7D chess
Don’t trust the plan you antisemite?

>>509412525 (OP)
To own the libs

>>509412525 (OP)
Because he lived around Americans long enough to realize they deserve it.
This country is filled with worthless bootlicking niggercattle and psychotically violent retards.

It's a worthless shithole that is proof there is no ALL LOVING God.

>>509412525 (OP)
Trump's sugar daddies promised him feet pics if he did it.

>>509412525 (OP)
Trump was elected to be the bag holder for the collapse in 2027-28

>>509412630
So it's for the benefits of corpos, while you eat the inflation?

>>509412630
what exports? and the dollar will still need to fall to a third of it's current value for american exports to be competitive, at which point your economy would collapse into hyperinflation

>>509412525 (OP)

That shit was crashing even before he took office.

>>509412525 (OP)
To fuck over all the people holding our debt. Giant deficit doesn't matter if we just devalue our own currency. Devaluing our own currency doesn't matter if we just use the new money to stimulate our own economy. Giving other countries strong currencies doesn't matter if we just release more strains of covid, make other countries lock down and ruin their economies, and then refuse to lock down our own economy. Full economic dominance.

>>509413362
mhm mhm genius plan! just ignore the existence of inflation, then it's all good

>>509412775
You think that leaking potato has enough sense of justice to try punishing anyone? He's the pig that runs after a carrot on a stick.

As for the american people... They're just a product of several generations being spoonfed propaganda at every turn. God bless the internet because occasionally some of them get to wake up and look beyond the cave.

>>509413633
Things priced in dollars are getting cheaper :) So thanks

>>509413207
>what exports
Oh look, an uninformed Hungarian

make exports cheaper
chine does it

>>509413726
China exports a lot more than it imports
The US imports a lot more than it exports.

>>509412525 (OP)
Right it's not like trump has been calling out Jerome Powell or anything

>>509413713
You don't have a job though so you can't take advantage of it :(

>>509413725
you're not even a net food exporter anymore, and that was the only thing you had, aside from tranny porn and gay propaganda I guess

>>509413725
I am American I would too would like to know what we fucking export. Everything in my house is basically made in China with the exception of furniture? I think China can make their own furniture too.

>>509413863
All this effort to rig elections and create revolts around the world and people just wanna talk about our food and propaganda exports

>>509413726
It make imports more expensive too lol.

Trump has called for dollar devaluation, and for negative rates, since his first term a decade ago.
It makes the U.S. more export-competitive

>>509414011
lol wut, we're talking about how a weak currency just creates inflation for a country that's a net importer

>>509413998
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exports_of_the_United_States
There are citations at the bottom you can use to verify this

>>509412525 (OP)

it's good for exports. China has spent decades artificailly devaluing its currency to keep the world buying from it. And it works

>>509412525 (OP)
hes a masonic yes man

>>509412525 (OP)
It's deliberate, eurofaggot. It goes along with tariffs. Why are you homos so fucking stupid?

>>509412525 (OP)
Because it's what his Jewish masters want. Destruction of the US.

>>509414150
>main export: petroleum/oil
lol so cheaper oil for china?

>>509414057
Not it people aren't going to pay it. Why doesn't anyone understand basic economics any more? Too busy watching videos of nigresses pegging noodle-arm nerds?

>>509414387
yeah both of those create inflation, they truly go along lmao

>>509412525 (OP)
if you criticize trump you're anti-semitic. stop it you racist.

>>509414488
Why do you care so much about this topic when you can't even hold a job? NEETs caring about the economy or job market so much when you guys gave up will never make sense to me

>>509413023
It also makes imports less competitive meaning chinkslop is less appealing compared to local brands. America wins again.

>>509412525 (OP)
Exchange rates are a moderately complicated economic subject that the shitposters and bots on this site have no hope of discussing fruitfully.

>>509413207
True. Sadly, these seems to be the decided course and that is why I bought a lot of precious metals a few years back.

>>509414706
why are you so mad lol, I'm just stating facts, your main export is petroleum and oil, a weaker currency will cause the prices of it to fall, which china loves because they want cheap oil to meet their skyrocketing energy demands, especially with AI coming on the horizon

>>509412640
This!
Plantrusters are safe

>>509414494
If people don't pay it, then the economy collapses. Which is exactly what's happening.

>>509414488
No not for china. They trade for oil from sanctioned shitholes using turd world tokens. Its been a really rough year for them.

>>509414978
No wait don't dodge and start the "u mad" stuff. I am genuinely curious. My guess is you gave up on life so you don't like seeing people who didn't give up like you have any kind of hope. How accurate is that?

>>509412525 (OP)
With inflation everybody is making money. If a can of beer costs 100 pesos now and 500 pesos next year, the market went up 400% and a lot of people made a lot of money.

>>509414706
>Why do you care so much about this topic ... ?
It is a big deal because America has been the sole superpower in the world for over 35 years and the US currency has been the world's reserve currency for approximately the last 80 years. What happens next is most likely war but either way a 75% reduction in our standard of living. Grim. Learn to grow your own veggies.

>>509414907
I mean yeah, if you're holding dollars it's better to swap them for something else
>>509415032
>China's top imports from the U.S. in 2023 were oilseeds and grains, followed by oil and gas.
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>>509415207
lmao wut, you just started petty shitflinging instead of talkng about the topic, are you jewish?

>>509413362
american savings BTFO'd
american purchase power BTFO'd
FED international usury system still in effect

>>509412525 (OP)

because he could crash the value of the dollar 99.9% and it would still have more value than the rest of the world's countries combined.

>>509412525 (OP)
To grow exports, inflate asset prices and force the fed to cut rates.

>>509412525 (OP)
zoom out.

>>509412630
You guys just never run out of Cope

>>509413250
This. Both parties are owned by Jews and they want to destroy the US.

>>509415326
I am asking specifically why NEETs who gave up and don't even try care so much. I understand why a person with a job and family would care. You don't have a job and your parents take care of you so why do you give a fuck?

>>509412775
Why the fuck do they keep swarming us with browns? You admit it trump is anti American filth.

>>509412525 (OP)
Someone a few months ago, explained Trumps plan to crash the Dollar by close to 30% as part of his economic plan. There is some method to his madness and crypto taking out some of the value of the Dollar was in the plan. This ties into the Big Beautiful Blll too.

>>509414885
I’m still waiting for America to win honestly

>>509415342
Yes chinks do love our soi. You still don get that they import most of the oil from iran and russia. Not the US. Its europe that gets US energy now that monke chimped out. Trump is gonna make sure the chink buy more of our junk tho. Good old orange man fucking over you chink gods.

>>509412630
What do you think he's doing that's intentionally devaluing the dollar?

>>509415378
Our share of the world's GDP compared to the value of our markets means a 66% reduction in asset prices would be necessary to achieve parity. As for your statement, the current value of our asset market is currently about half of the world's asset markets.

>>509415577
Its winning constantly now. Thats why you are seething. Thats why all the brown sludge of /pol/ is seething constantly now.

>>509415759
>Stealing billions from americans with tariffs
>Inflation skyrockets
>Dollar devaluing
>130k jobs lost in ONE month
>Income down
>OMG you're just jealous because we're winning

>>509415485
It is emotional. There needs to be a justification for not achieving ego gratification and sense desires. It turns out that there are reasons, but it doesn't really matter, correct. Just enjoy your life and count your blessings.

>>509415929
You basically just replied with nonsense gibberish

>>509412525 (OP)
This is Donald Trump's world.
The rest of us just live in it.

>>509412525 (OP)
I'm not an economist, but if you devalue relative to other currencies, doesn't that just make is more expensive to buy foreign shit while domestic shit stays more or less the same because everyone's dollar still equals a dollar?

>>509415912
You pay the tarriffs anon. The value of the dollar compared to shitcoin in international trading isn't the same as what the dollar can buy for me at the local store. In that prices arent rising anymore than they have for years. Also the US is adding jobs and incomes are up. Not even sure what you're coping about there.

>>509416050
You are autistic so you don't have a good read on other people's emotional states and their emotionally-driven decision making processes. When you ask why the answer is often the other person's emotions, not their logic, which is exceedingly rare (1-2%).

>>509416387
>Still doesn't know how tariffs work
I can imagine how you might think it's good if you literally don't even understand that basics

>>509412525 (OP)
To go back to the gold standard.

>>509416572
Its you that thinks a tarriff is a vat tax. lol.

>>509416446
This means nothing coming from a jobless NEET just FYI who knows I am right and is writing meandering gibberish because he doesn't want to accept it

>>509416802
It's extremely simple.
The prices of foreign products go up.
U.S depends on these products.
U.S consumers and companies pay the difference

>>509415631
you're talking a lot of shit but everything you said is just worse for america, if europe is forced to buy american oil anyways then how does it benefit america that they get it for less money now? you're not competing with anyone when it comes to selling oil to europe, europe has no other choice, this is just a good deal for them, and if trump tries to force china to buy more natural resources from america (didn't work last time) then they just get more bang for their buck, if trump forces them to buy 100 million dollars worth of oil then if it's 15k tons then it's a better deal for them than if it was 10k tons, like both of the things that mentioned only make a weaker currency worse for america, since neither of them are a competitive environment, american oil being cheaper doesn't make it more competitive, it's not competing with anyone, it just means you get less money, if you were exporting goods that are in high demand and you're competing with a lot of other exporters on the market then a lower currency could be helpful, but you don't, you export natural resources to hostage buyers

>>509417010
*more US jobs are created
Works out for us

>>509412525 (OP)
Vote for a retard get retarded leadership

>>509412525 (OP)
>THE HAPPENINGS ARE HAPPENING
>THE REAL ESTATES ARE OVERWHELMING
>THE AI IS TAKING OVER
>THE BANKS ARE COLLAPSING
>THE YIELDS ARE SPIKING
>THE RATES ARE CUTTING
>THE PETRODOLLARS ARE DYING
>THE BONDS ARE DEFAULTING
>THE INSIDERS ARE SHORTING
>THE MONEYS ARE INFLATING
>THE PENSIONS ARE PONZYING
>THE FAMINES ARE COMING
>THE MARKETS ARE CRASHING
>THE JOBS ARE RECEEDING
>THE UBI'S ARE DROPPING
>THE DEBTS ARE PILING UP
>THE CYBERCRIMINALS ARE HACKING
>THE BLACKOUTS ARE COMING
>THE WORLD WARS ARE STARTING
>THE WEST HAS FALLEN
It's over but I still have to go to work tomorrow morning. I'm tired bros, I'm tired of this world. When will it finally be my turn to be on top?

>>509412525 (OP)
Americans are too wealthy, they consume too much. By making their money less valuable they will consume less and they will have to work more. Also American federal debt is 36 T$. Reducing the value of the $ makes easier to pay the interests.

>>509417010
>U.S depends on these products.
They dont
>U.S consumers and companies pay the difference
A tariff is assessed based on retail prices. You raise the price you pay more to uncle orange. You retards do understand the US achieved all its global power on a primarily tarriff based trade policy right? All this free trade globohomo stuff only came about after total american victory. We know all about using tariffs to our advantage.

>>509417039
We dont get less money anon.

>>509417546
kek >>509412630
how exactly are the exports more competitive if they're not cheaper? silly shlomo

>>509413207
>what exports
>pretending to be an expert
Look at this slavshit gook retard.

>>509418169
look at this coping mutt nigger

>>509412525 (OP)
isnt this why eggs are cheap again?

>>509412525 (OP)
Because the orange man is about to bankrupt america and sell us out to isreal for the 99th time

>>509417495
>They dont
you know how I know they do?
Trump collected 22billion in one month from U.S consumers

>>509417154
>*more US jobs are created
Except 130k jobs were just lost last month

>>509418700
We are talking about what happens now with the currency lowering in value NEET

>>509418700
>130k jobs were just lost last month
those numbers usually get revised to be much worse too lol, it's probably 200k lost in reality

Thats the plan.

>>509412525 (OP)
introduce trumpcoin crypto as a dollar replacement

>>509418241
You'll never be White or understand economics. Stay in your gook infested 3rd world shithole.

>>509417864
Cheaper comparative to the garbage you call money. The value of the dollar as the global trade currency remains the standard by which all others are pegged as always.
>>509418700
He collects billions from foreigners trying to import their products into america. Thats how it works anon. A tarriff is not the same as whatever extra cuck taxes you pay for climate change. By the way the price of chinkslop on the shelves hasn't gone up any. It cant and remain competitive.

>>509412525 (OP)
Because he's a literal retard with an army of sycophants that are either too low IQ or too cowardly to do anything to stop it.

>>509419153
again, if the value doesn't change how is it more competitive, you can't have both, either the products are cheaper therefore they are more competitive, or their price doesn't change and then they aren't competitive

>>509412961
He's well experienced with collapsing businesses and closing out bankruptcy sell offs, not his first rodeo

>>509412630
But this is about dept. Investors flee. So its not exactly like china.

>>509419305
The value changes in that us exports are now more competitive. Not that the US get less money. You do realize its not a good thing for currency to always be at the highest possible value right? Theres a reason why China does everything it can to devalue the yuan and while the russian economy is a total wreck now despite the ruble being at a recent high in value. Its not as simple as line go up equals good.

>>509420003
lmaooooo what do you think "more competitive" means? it's like you're just repeating buzzwords without understanding what they mean, being "more competitive" means that something is cheaper so people are more likely to buy it, meaning that you get less money, but it is true that china is manipulating their currency, so they'll just manipulate their currency again to be weaker than the dollar anyways, so it doesn't even matter for china-usa trade, it matters for usa trade with other countries though that don't manipulate their currencies, they now just pay less money for what they buy from america (mostly petroleum)

Even institutional US investors prefer to invest their money at low interest rates in the europoor rather than leave it in dollars.
Everyone knows, you know, the USA is effectively bankrupt. But it's such a disaster that everyone just tries to ignore it.
Kek

>>509418838
>Okay yes you're right
>But I'm talking about something else
Ok? neat? I'm not.

>>509419153
>By the way the price of chinkslop on the shelves hasn't gone up any
>Actually tariffs don't even work
I have no idea why you're arguing on this point, you clearly don't even understand the very basics of the basics

Everyone notice how this thread is mostly NEET Europeans and other non American NEETs in meme flags whining about US exports and tell me this isn't some kind of shill

>>509420878
The value of the dollar is not sharply going down this is what we are talking about what happens now you retarded NEET not a month ago when the conditions were different

>>509421061
>The value of the dollar is not sharply going down
It is, actually.
All while inflation is skyrocketing.
Guess what happens next

>>509419566
China has way more debt than the US and investors have fled china while the US is getting trillions in new investment. Its not like china at all. Its way better.

>>509412525 (OP)
To destroy the American capacity to sanction Russia and China. Billionaire class have decided to giftwrap the American Empire to China.

>>509412525 (OP)
It boosts exports, devaluing currency is how China or Sweden does it

>>509421061
>The value of the dollar is not sharply going
What is your standard for sharp then, midwit? 20%? 40%?
The richest and most powerful nation on Earth and your standard for admitting a problem is Zimbabwe.

>>509420392
It means the american option is now preferable to others. Its you that doent understand the complexities of trade and monetary policy. Not your fault ofc but thinking any of this is as simple as currency more value relative to others equals always good is simply childish thinking. All you need to know is that the global south lost again. It always loses and always will lose.

>>509421114
>Latest data from the Ministry of Commerce shows that foreign direct investment (FDI) in the Chinese mainland in actual use climbed by 13.2 percent year on year last month. In the first quarter (Q1) of 2025, 12,603 new foreign-invested enterprises were established nationwide, representing a year-on-year growth of 4.3 percent.
uhhuh, and china owes debt to itself, it's irrelevant, the chinese government owes debt to chinese banks that are controlled by the chinese government, it's just the ccp moving money around in it's different departments, meanwhile america's debt is real, it's owed to private companies and to other countries, america can't just say it doesn't have debt or the economy collapses

>>509420878
Theres no argument anon. You're factually incorrect. You objectively dont know what a tariff is or how it works. This isn't something you can argue or debate.

>>509421439
>and china owes debt to itself
Thats not good anon. You can tell other countries to fuck off if you owe them something you can tell yourself to fuck off. Chinas debt is so absurd all foreign investors are fleeing now and any chink that can get their money out of china does so.

>>509421356
because they are cheaper, lmao, you clearly don't understand what we're talking about at all and just talk shit like a faggot illiterate mutt, I'll illustrate it for you so you understand how retarded you are
>my competitors are selling baseball hats for 10 dollars while my hats cost 15 dollars, my baseball hats are not competitive
>so I sell them for 12 dollars instead, making them more competitive
>this means that I get 15 dollars for my baseball caps anyways, because magic
this is how retarded you are, something being competitive means that it's cheaper, if it's cheaper you get less money for it, retard gorilla nigger

>>509413207
The U.S. third top export (electric machinery) is almost as much as your nations entire GDP

>>509421674
lmao wtf are you saying, if you owe yourself 100 dollars you can just say that you don't owe anything, if you owe a 100 dollars to the bank then you'll have to pay it back, or you'll have to declare bankruptcy, each of your posts is getting more retarded than the last

>>509415912
>still believes all this nonsense
Stop trusting the lugenpresse, dipshit.

>>509421698
that's pathetic as fuck, we're a country of 9 million people in a landlocked country, you're comparing america to us? GRIM

>>509421787
Bro....that's the most retarded thing I've heard.
The majority of the United Statesian debt is to itself, if it doesn't matter for China why TF would it matter to the U.S.
You can't just completely destroy the currency you use for asset valuation without any consequences (see weimer Germany)

>>509416572
No YOU don't know how tariffs work you fucking retard. The numbers are in. THey DO work, even CNN, the network whose asshole all your shitty news in yurop eats from constantly, admitted tariffs actually worked.

>>509421884
That's my point is it's the third top export. That's just on top of everything else that the American economy is made up of. Completely dismissing it because you believe in good guy/bad guy history is foolish and immature

>>509421895
what you posted is the most retarded thing I've heard, muttmerica doesn't owe debt to itself, it owes debt to it's own people, big difference, the american government has to pay debt to american companies that own the debt, the chinese government owes debt to the chinese government, it's irrelevant

>>509422008
your point is comparing america's exports to a tiny landlocked country with 9 million people? GRIM muttmerica is doomed

>>509412525 (OP)
>history started in January 2025
RUN THAT FUCKER ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1913 YOU GOLDFISH-BRAINED NIGGER

>>509421690
Cheaper relative to your spending power. Not cheaper in that the price of the good has literally gone down.

>>509412525 (OP)
Because he has no fucking clue what he's doing and literally every other excuse is cope

>>509422047
The federal reserve is quasi-federal. The U.S. isn't using fucking Goldman Sachs to print currency It's absolutely fucking retarded to say that "lmao it doesn't count because they're communists" I mean ffs how do you think the Soviet Union collapsed?

>>509412640
Do people really think the president has any power? He hasn't done anything in 5 years is presidency, I still see shitskins everywhere and everything else is exactly the same

>>509422107
I'm comparing an export to an economy yea. Your acting retarded to save your face for your own self. You are trying to exports don't make up the entire economy and my point is one export is bigger than your nation. For scale Frances top export is about 73 billion. France has a way better economy than Hungary but has smaller exports. You see my point or are you going to keep playing ostrich?

>>509421787
When a chink corporation is crushed by mounting debt it owes to the central bank that corporation telling the central bank it cant pay back its loans hurts china. It doesn't hurt anyone else. Its the ccp thats out billions of dollars in bad investment money. Thats why the chink car industry is facing at the money. Thats the next big crash there. Too many companies, not enough sales. Crashing retail prices and insane levels of debt.

>>509422307
"HURR DURR THE PRESIDENT HAS NO POWER" has never been more retarded than it is now, during a presidency when Trump is arbitrarily setting sky-high tariffs by declaration on twitter

>>509412525 (OP)
Exporters need weak currencies.

>>509422183
lmaooo the retarded illiterate mutt still doesn't understand a basic concept, germany has euros, america sells a barrel of oil for 50 dollars, germany has to convert euros to dollars to buy the barrel of oil, if 50 dollars is 42 euros then they pay less euros than if 50 dollars was 50 euros, you got less euros for the same product, you got less money, the shit you sold is cheaper

>>509412525 (OP)
And then he keeps demanding Powell LOWERS interest rates kek. The US (and by extension the world) is in big trouble

>>509422225
what does the federal reserve have to do with anything, we're talking about debt, you mutts literally have no clue what you're talking about
>>509422455
you're comparing the usa to hungary, fucking GRIM

>>509422459
>2 more weeks until china collapses
oh so you're one of those glownigger clowns

>>509422605
>What does the federal reserve have to anything?
How can you ask a dumb question like this but yao like your some authority in economics? The U.S. is to the federal reserve for printing currency
>>509422605
>Still playing ignorant
I accept your concession. I

>>509422805
and?????? what does that have to do with debt you stupid nigger monkey????? the fed doesn't own any debt, it's completely unrelated to the debt
don't make a retarded petty faggot comparison next time
>ooooh hurrhurrr hungary is so pathetic and irrelevant
why are you comparing america to it then? pathetic and irrelevant mutt paper tiger

>>509412525 (OP)
>Crashing the
lower currency rate
means more exports
means more jobs
higher currency rate
means cheaper imports
means can buy more stuff
but costs jobs
>a currency's trading value is meaningless without the context that it is occurring

>>509412525 (OP)
This is an acceptable compromise to collect tariffs.

>>509422492
He's not though, he walks them back a day later
I wouldn't be surprised if it was all being done as some ai testing program which will use twitter to give out its orders in the future

>>509413362
Treasury debts are inflation linked, anon.

>>509412704
Kek I was going to say this

>>509422684
Its been collapsing ever since the china flu. Just one disaster after the next. Its whole economic model is falling apart. Yes being massively in debt is killing china at the moment. It would be much better if it just owed foreigners all that money. Then they could just make vague promises and kick the can down the road forever. Alas they cant do that to themselves.

>>509412525 (OP)
I'm surprised people don't know this is orchestrated and it doesn't matter who is in office
Presidents are fake and gay

They want cbdc and they need the dollar to crash and a war to fulfill it

>>509423444
just lift all the tariffs, sanctions, and bans on huawei and byd then, if they're collapsing on their own anyways, clown

>>509412525 (OP)

Debt refinancing coming up.

>>509412630

This is a tradition move for everyone.

>>509421528
>No you
Wow, great strategy.
I accept your concession since you can't explain where the money is coming from if not U.S consumers

>>509412525 (OP)
So he can buy low...you dummy lmao get some financial education

>>509421968
>THey DO work
What? I never said they don't work.
The contention is the Lie Trump tells that the other country pays it, when it's actually U.S consumers who do

>>509413023
America has had a massive stagnation in wages since tmit's migrated to a service economy, instead of everyone being accountants and stock brokers they became waiters, cashiers, and delivery drivers. I would rather work in a factory with 1950s relative pay than as an uber eats driver.

>>509423191
>Actually a weak currency is a good thing
It can be beneficial during a recession, which I'm fairly sure you won't see as something good.
Until Trump tells you to think that of course

>>509414885
I’ll take chinkslop over americanslop everyday of the week, bitch!
Total JEWSA DEATH!!!

>>509422509
>Exporters need weak currencies.
Which the US isn't.

>>509422509
What do you think Trump is doing that's intentionally devaluing the Dollar?

>>509412525 (OP)
because its the only way to bring back manufacturing you absolute retard

>>509425864
>>509425159

>>509425864
>>509425159
But it won't. Corporations will not pay good wages for Americans to work in factories. They will never give up their cheap overseas labor.

>>509413362
Schlomo really letting the mask slip

GOLD AND MAR A LAGO ACCORD
I WONT ELABORATE

>>509412525 (OP)
Dollar trades in an open market. It goes up and down at times.

>>509415912
So much winning

>>509417154
What jobs you fucking retard. Get your prager Jew, fox news having ass out of here.

>>509413207
The US has lots of exports. This also makes imports from Asia less competitive.