Why can't America America build passenger rail? What do euros and Asians know that the Americans don't?

>>509440091 (OP)
why can't europoors and chinks make an efficient freight rail system?
they can do passenger rail but not freight rail

>>509440091 (OP)
Euros and asians know what it's like to live in tiny cuck boxes and not be able to afford cars.

We have passenger rail.

>>509440285
They have both retard. Before you ask: they also have highways

>>509440091 (OP)
Railways are communism apparently.

anon, you can draw maps to whatever scale you want, but the reality is that america is huge, way bigger than your europoor shithole

even china is 100% concentrated long its coast line

>>509440488
europe has an inferiority complex and loves to suck chinese cock
can't wait until russia nukes that entire continent and along goes with it their rothschild banking empire called the european union

>>509440091 (OP)
trains are impractical for a nation that can require 2k plus mile trips. it is cool but it is a waste of resources and it is best suited to freight in the usa. seethe based train autist.

>>509440488
right

>>509440488
You can get a train all the way from London to China with a few changeovers. That's literally half way around the entire planet.

>>509440091 (OP)
That's not even a complete map

>>509440091 (OP)

>>509440782
>You can get a train all the way from London to China with a few changeovers. That's literally half way around the entire planet.
Wait until you find out about planes.

>>509440685
>49 miles
Acela connects Boston to DC.

>>509440091 (OP)
Why can't chinks and europoors afford cars?

>>509440782
what is the total time to complete the journey on a train vs an airliner?

*cries in greek

>>509440941
The train going that far will take longer obviously but his argument was "hurr duur we're big".

>>509440782
It's only 7 timezones of difference. Hardly "literally half way around the planet"

>>509440336
A train is bigger than any car

>>509441029
its actually the efficiency of the travel. burgers regularly fly thousands of miles from coast to coast which is why american passengers trains are for sight seeing tourists not business or travelers.

>>509440091 (OP)
we could we simply don't want to because we are retarded

>>509441054
>A train is bigger than any car
Not true, my train is way smaller than my car.

>>509440903
Is it high speed?

>>509441234
Actually getting onto a train is a hell of a lot easier and they're also more comfortable than getting crammed into a plane.

>>509440091 (OP)
Because passenger rails don't make sense when your population lives literally everywhere and extend far further out than any of the confined faggots of China and Europe do. Sorry that's the price we have for actually having more livable space.

>>509441338
cost to build 1 mile of highspeed rail? dont forget to apply costs to compensate for corporate boomer greed and corruption in government.

>>509441458
You guys have absolutely nothing on Siberia for "far out".

>>509440091 (OP)
the vast majority of US has very low population density
its really just not necessary to brick up the entire nation outside of major cities
i think some of you forget how barren and forested the middle of the country is, particularly in the west

>>509440091 (OP)
Because America is very big and not densely populated. Passenger rail only economically makes sense in the North East corridor.

>>509441402
uh you can get from ny to la in 6 hours on a plane it currently takes over 60 hours on a train. oh and the usa is far to corrupt and greedy to accommodate large land projects so forget about the possibility of coast to coast commuter high speed rail.

>>509441683
So is Russia. They have trains.

>>509441702
Yeah because American passenger rail sucks.

>>509441402
I’ll explain this to you since you seem to be a bit slow. We have two large population areas separated by 2,000 miles of fuckall nothing. People travel between them for business by the millions every year. Cost doesn’t matter and “comfort” doesn’t matter, what matters is they can get there in five hours instead of five days
>>509441520
Tell me when Siberia gets a California-sized population that needs to facilitate fast travel with Moscow

>>509441718
>So is Russia. They have trains.
So does the US?

>>509441683
>europe and america same size. why you no have train?
fucking idiots act like they've never heard of planes and airports

>>509441780
see
>>509441718
DUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>509440091 (OP)
The US has more miles of rail lines in use than any country on earth. Why does china build rail lines to nowhere that no one uses and only adds massive budget deficits to the local economy?

>>509441338
It's got top speed of 150 mph which is high speed enough.

>>509441813
Russian trains run like clockwork.

>>509440866
Cant get much further than that without building a railway tunnel through the Pacific to connect the old world with the Mutts

>>509441562
Bro, even the fetal alcoholic syndrome of a country that is Russia can pull it off. And believe it or not, Russia is even bigger than 2 Texas.

>>509441780
euro train autism is strong but i respect them and their hobby it just doesn’t work in the usa for passenger commuters beyond a few specific regions.

>>509441780
Nah America has pockets of high destiny where rail could totally work. For example along the east coast.

>>509441718
Yeah because they can't afford planes and they don't have high speed rail. Americans aren't going to sit in a 2 day train to Florida like Boris would.

>>509440685
Trains are for Asians and hobos
Get a job and buy a car you fucking bum

>>509441972
>Nah America has pockets of high destiny where rail could totally work. For example along the east coast.
You mean like they do?

These threads are fascinating in their retardation.

lots goin down cess hole fren
>>509437795

If America is too big why was China able to do it when it's bigger?

>>509441945
>i want to ride choo choo train mommy
fucking euro infants

>>509441843
How much commerce does Oмcк and Bлaдивocтoк do with Mocквa? How regularly does anyone travel between them in a way that traveling for a week is too long?
By the way, you’re one to talk, mr “my island shithole is the size of one of your states and I’ve never drove a car more than an hour at a time”

>>509442031
Passenger rail

>>509440091 (OP)
why would I want one?

>>509442131
Why would you need passenger rail when everyone has a car and domestic flights are like 150 bucks

>>509441978
If you had actual high speed rail you could get from New York City to Miami Florida in about 3 hours.

>>509440091 (OP)
There's no reason for us to.
Europe has plenty of passenger rail infrastructure since their car infrastructure is shit. China is a dictatorship which can spend untold billions in vanity projects without repercussion.

In America, we have the best car infrastructure in the world. It's convenient to drive to places, and you really have to for most people.
Cars are simply a better, more free, and more comfortable form of transportation than trains. And we in America, have a lot of cars.

Also you need to consider the financial aspect. Whereas there can be many millions of people who'd use a train to go from Rome to Naples, Paris to Lyon, Lisbon to Madrid, Berlin to Prague, who the fuck is going to buy a train ticket to go from Cleveland to Pittsburgh?
With very few exceptions America has no places in which a passenger train line would make any sense. Either the distance needed to be travelled is so great that planes make more sense, or it could be done easier by car.

In Europe you can travel from one city of immense historical import and unique cuisine and culture to another in a few hours.
There's only a handful of cities in America which are nearly as unique or interesting, and they're spread across the enormous continent.
Imagine if the only interesting cities in Europe were London, Berlin, Moscow, Athens, and Istanbul. There wouldn't be nearly the railroad infrastructure there is in such a reality.

>>509441972
I am getting high speed rail near me. It's just going to be LA-Las Vegas. That route makes sense. Florida has it's own rail system. The problem is that between metro areas is vast nothingness. Flying makes more sense to Americans. We are also rich as fuck and can afford to fly everywhere.

>>509442131
>Passenger rail
Oh, so like subways?

Show flag you retarded memeflag, lets see what kind of faggot keeps making these pointless threads.

>>509442131
That used to be passenger rail until jews changed the laws.

>>509442141
>why don't you have train?
>because we don't need them.
>but why?
just don't come here. problem solved. we don't need them either.

>>509442243
Kill yourself you jewish owned golem.

>>509442221
USA had the most extensive passenger rail network in the world until the market got regulated out of existence in the 1930s.

>>509442186
I can get there on a plane even faster. Not sure why turdies are so fascinating with obsolete tech. I get that its new to chinks and all but you should know better.

>>509442243
Trains that carry humans. Understand m8?

>>509442186
I already can do that by plane.
>>509442280
why the fuck would I want to take a train from NYC to LA?

>>509442316
You're the one being super jewish itt.

>>509442186
Even with a Shinkansen tier train, it would still take 8 hours. You Yuropoors really have a hard time graping how big the US is.

>This thread again

>>509442321
Nah. You can just go to the train station and get right on that train. No waiting, no going through scanners, just on and off.

>>509442380
Show flag, leaf.

>>509442406
It's episode #230498573098475639845 of "foreigners think the US is the size of a mid sized European country and just LA and NYC"

>/pol/ fetishizes rural living
>doesn't understand why every rural town has a decaying rail station in it
You faggots just LARP about being rural.

>>509442393
I told you to kill yourself kike.
You want people to be forced to carry around an ID to be able to travel.
If the government doesn't like your freedom of movement they can take your driving privleges away.
I wish I could fucking kill you with my bare hands.

>>509441879
Go ride one faggot

>>509442186
>New York City to Miami Florida in about 3 hours.
Unless it's an express, it'll spend 3 hours at intermediate stops minimum.

>>509441054
Nigga, do you have your own private train?
You're out there sitting in smelly, cramped-ass metal boxes without any freedom of where you want to stop or go to.
A train is just a worse version of transport than a car.

>>509442498
>Mutt doesn't know geography
Embarrassing.

>>509442321
i used to travel the country for work by flying everywhere and i would 10000% prefer rail being a valid alternative if it meant i didn’t have to deal with airports. TSA, and the retards that occupy all of it to sit in a tin can and pray they grant me a status upgrade.

>>509440091 (OP)
i would never get in a train built by a russian nigger or a chink dog eating tranny. only White men build competent transportation.

>>509442624
Anon... that's China. Is China a mid sized European country?

>>509440488
Europe is bigger than USA. And Europe as a whole has far, far more railroads than USA.
Whats your next sad cope?

>>509442629
No, you WILL be surveilled when you travel.
You WILL carry the government ID when you drive.
You WILL have your privileges of travel removed if the government decides to.
And you will call it based and redpilled, goyim.

>>509442722
China has the most extensive rail network in the world while being larger than the lower 48 states.
You are making excuses for jews. Stop that.

>>509442624
Literally nobody lives in the western half of China. The center right of the country is where they're building those ghost cities with paper mache skyscrapers to keep up their real estate bubble

>>509442629
It's still a fucking nuisance because the US is so big. Small regional rail makes sense. Like Boston-NYC- Philly-DC, but doing LA-Seattle is a waste of time.

>>509442498
Correct. I actually try to get them to look up on their map application of choice what the distance is between eg Boise and Denver, and how long it would take to travel it by car/train/plane. They of course pretend like the post doesn’t exist because it doesn’t help their narrative, but I’m nice so I’ll do it for them

>>509442805
>brown thinks Europe is the size of a few states

>>509442793
ok what does that have to do with my post?

>>509442805
80% of America lives in the east as well. And those that live in the west almost exclusively live in a straight line along the coast.
>>509441972

>>509442406
I did in fact work it out.

>>509442391
just looked at amtrak 10 days and $1700. i can fly business class and get there in 6 hours for that.
>no, you have to take a train because trains good.

>>509442887
forgot the image

>>509442508
No you didn't you fucking idiot, check ids. Retards like you are the ones that will be killed for being fucking nigger brained luddites and worshiping old trash that your white masters long made obsolete. Do get pack your bags shitskin. ICE just got some funding and you're next trip is gonna be a plane ride to south sudan.

>>509441718
>>509441890
Yeah because Russians were/are so poor many to most of them haven't been able to or still can't buy a car.
Americans have had easy access to cars since the fucking Model T in 1908.

Important to note, if you look at a historical map like my pic, we had far more rail than Russia did, both then and now, in 1890.
But, as we adopted the car due to our great wealth, most railroads went out of business, since they're just a worse method of transport.

>>509442792
Europe minus Russia = 6.4 million km2
American minus Alaska = 8.1 million km2

>>509442624
USA is actually larger than China. Canada is larger than USA

>>509442983
Shut the fuck up you disgusting KIKE.
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUR HEAD CUT OFF BY SANDNIGGERS once America stops funding you disgusting rats.

>>509442888
are you being intentionally retarded?
>>509442929
Anon, a 3 hour train ride with multiple stops along the way would be so much less convenient than just flying there in 3 hours.

>>509442928
Show flag leaf.

Or are you hiding it for a reason? LFMAO

>>509442887
This is a strawman. There are many areas in America where passenger rail would 100% work. No one is arguing for rail between buckfuck and assfist.

>>509443056
Oh no, you have to sit on a train when it stops at a station occasionally. That is so much less convenient than sitting on a plane.

>>509442929
>No stops
>No security
Hilarious that you think that's feasible.

>>509443056
>>509443051
You want everyone to have to pay for the privilege of travel.
You want everyone to be forced to carry ID at all times if they wish to travel.
You want to remove anonymity from travel.
You want to have everyone surveilled by the government if they wish to travel.
This is why you need to die. People are getting real fucking sick of your kikes.

>>509442131
Nigga, you already posted a picture of the largest passenger rail lines, and they showed that all of the best places for railroad lines were already made!

>>509442928
First of all take your fucking memeflag off you faggot.

Second of all, there's an entire Germany worth of population living west of the Mississippi. Not to mention most of that land in the west is government owned for the purposes of nuclear silos, secret air force research based and underground military bases.

Meanwhile pic related

>>509442928
>80% of America lives in the east as well.
no

>>509443202
As trains don't fall on top of random towns all over the world when things go wrong you tend to get less molested getting onto one.

>>509443197
It would take more time is my point retard. Why would I want to spend billions and billions of on fucking trains when flying is faster and more convenient? It makes no sense.
>>509443227
>You want everyone to have to pay for the privilege of travel.
oh so now the trains would be free too?

>>509443197
Nigger, stops pretty much double the time you spend on a train, especially long haul because people have luggage and slowing down and speeding up again is incredibly inefficient. Please be real.

>>509443227
Shit I don't want any of that. I didn't even read this thread, I'm just chiming in with geography facts.

>>509443056
if they take the same amount of time and getting on a train is still easier than flying, train wins. i would never set foot in an airport again if i didn’t have to.

>t. global entry / clear subscriber

>>509443055
Seethe more you shit colored subhuman.

>>509443236
>>509443238
No heckin way...
its almost the same map

americans cannot have community and civic nationalism because it makes the jews nervous when there's cooperation over competition

>>509443354
>>509443308
You are paying to get IDed by the government you disingenuous fucking kike.
You are are going to be skinned alive by sand niggers soon :)
Fuck you and die

>>509443331
Bullshit. You NEED all of that to fly or drive a car, which you are advocating for.

>>509443369
I don't know how you define east so I deleted my post because of that.

>>509443202
>america does 9/11 memorial molestation rituals on people when taking the train

good lord

>>509443159
>>509443369
Show flag you pissant coward (((leaf))).

>>509443159
>No one is arguing for rail between buckfuck and assfist.
You are

>>509440091 (OP)
We use public transportation as a legal form of segregation.

>>509443403
why are you implying you wouldn't need the same things you need to fly to take a train?
what utopian nonsense are you spewing?
>>509443341
you'd step foot into a train station and do the same shit

>>509440091 (OP)
because nothing in the center is worth a stop so they fly

>>509443378
Flying is and driving is cheap in America. It's really that shrimple. If flights were exorbitantly expensive, American preferences would shift to passenger rail.

>>509442316
>>509442249
Shut the fuck up you autistic faggot.
No not autist likes trains. That's why they went away. When even a poor American owned a car, there was no reason to take a train.
That's why only the most populated and interesting cities still have passenger rail connecting them. Even then most people don't take them.

Regulation wouldn't have mattered if people were still using passenger rail, but they weren't. Because it sucks.

>>509443403
We have air travel and cars though. High speed rail isn't exactly cheap, it's comparable to air travel. It would make more sense in a linear country like Japan were you can get more people traveling on the same track.

>>509443378
what the fuck does any of that have to do with trains?

>>509443506
>>509443471
>>509443553
6 million wasn't enough

>>509443499
rail transit will always be cheaper but keep attempting your pilpul

>>509442792
Why do you act like America should have passenger rail?
We have cars, they're better.

>>509443578
ok you're just being intentionally retarded carry on

>>509443578
>The holohoax was real
You're showing nose moshe

>>509443369
>8% vs 20% when you're dealing with populations of hundreds of millions
You are dunning Kruger on full display.

I know that's the reason you won't take your fucking memeflag off. It's because you are an irrelevant brown piece of shit from a population of people with a statistically average IQ below 90 and your entire population would fit inside a single percentage point of these population numbers

In short kill yourself

>>509440091 (OP)
They want us stuck on that petrol dollar duh!

>>509443506

Goy, you literally need a driving license to get anywhere. Hope you never run into some cop with a grudge against you

>>509443291
I've flown out of the UK before and they make you put your toothpaste and shaving cream in plastic baggies for no fucking reason at all. They make you take off your shoes and haul your shit through an X-ray machine. It's literally the same thing as the US. You have never actually flown before, have you?

>>509443625
>>509443656
Told you to fucking kill yourself you disgusting fucking kike.
People are waking up to your subversion.

>>509443623
>NOOOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU NEEEEEEEED TO HAVE TRAINS
why are they like this? I don't get it

>>509443452
No I'm not. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I think rail could work in the green.

>>509443554
everything

american government which is ZOG intentionally hampers projects that improve your quality of life. because happy secure people with safety nets are harder to manipulate and threaten

>>509443681
Actually having to pay for an ID that you are legally obligated to carry and present when asked is BASED goy.

>>509443471
i don’t think i have to do anything at a train station similar to what i have to do at an airport today, and that wouldn’t change unless muslims started hijacking trains like it was 1836

>>509440091 (OP)
i love trains but screw passenger ones

>>509443683
It's a Muslim or paki, the only time he'll ever be able to fly is when he hijacks a jumbo jet and flies it into some buildings

>>509442929
Okay, so since there would have to be stops, and probably security too, in any train from NYC to Miami, that means that even with the fastest, most expensive train in the world, it would be 6ish hours to get there by train.
That's longer than it takes to fly, and for no extra benefit.

No business could run that and make a profit, no taxpayer should be expected to throw their hard earned money away for something that so few people would ever use.

>>509443699
Chinks have to believe trains are some point of national pride and dont have to make any logical or economic sense because rail in china is the biggest boondoggle in history.

>>509443727
why exactly would trains improve the quality of life?

>>509443329
Nah.

>>509443706
Show flag (((leaf)))

Why do you keep making these retarded threads?

>>509443706
>I think rail would work in the places the OP map shows it already exists
okay, and?

>>509443617
>rail transit will always be cheaper
I took a road trip in Europe, flew into Paris and drove through Spain and Italy because when I worked out the price, it was actually cheaper to drive than to take the train, you especially save money by staying in hotels outside of cities and then taking the local train into cities. Interregional rail in Europe is NOT cheap at all.

>>509443159
>There are many areas in America where passenger rail would 100% work.
And it does, right now.
You can get on a train from NYC to Albany, or Boston all the way to DC.
No one ever does it. Because it's not efficient for time or money in comparison to flight or car travel, but you can.

America doesn't need a train line from fucking Columbus to Buffalo, or St Louis to Minneapolis. Partially since there isn't a good reason to travel to those cities anyway.

>>509443856
2-3 minutes per stop
Are you genuinely autistic?

>>509443868
That rail infrastructure is legitimately 50 years behind the rest of the world. Its shit

>>509443962
Do you think a train hangs around while you fuck about with your luggage?

Same old destroy individual sovereignty Jew thread...

>>509443856
So a bullet train traveling at 300 mph will come to a stop, deboard, board, then accelerate back to 300 mph in 2 minutes?

>>509440091 (OP)
most freight rails are owned by the company US railroad.
Not a government entity.
Eisenhower wanted to build an interstate highway system after the war. ever since then trucking companys deliver alot of freight across country. rail freight ships mainly bulk goods like grain and lumber becuase lumber yards and grain mills had directly freight lines so they could directly dump the bulk goods directly onto box cars.
after the interstate americans usually went by car across country becuase of the "freedom" it offered over using railroad. then we had airplane freight no too long after.
its like putting in more phone lines when everyone just uses satillite .

theres probably more to it.
but building a railroad to california was a big pain in the ass.

>>509444078
Yeah that is what it calculated.

>>509444135
Thats retarded

>>509443925
I take Metro North all the time, a lot of people do, but NYC is the biggest city in the US. Local rail in metro area works and plenty of cities have it. The problem is faggots who think a train from NYC- LA is economically feasible. It's not. As long as plane tickets are cheap, people will prefer flying.

>>509444162
Why?

>>509443681
Yeah, faggot. I'm a great driver.
Keep day dreaming your fantasy situations where the driver gets punished for using a more convenient, more private, faster form of transportation.

Next time you take a train, try getting it to stop to go to a convenience store, or explore a new small town, or stop while you take a hike. Oh wait, you can't. Because trains fucking suck.

At least you all have the autobahn. You might have to get a license to drive on it, though.

>>509443858
I'm an Aussie tho
>>509443962
Have you taken a train ever in your life. Fucking lol

>>509443980
and how would we pay for it?

>>509440091 (OP)
The railroad service exists only for people being sex trafficked in the USA. Notice the cities that these rails pass through, major trafficking hubs.

>>509444200
>I'm an Aussie tho
No, you're a (((leaf))), now show flag.

>>509440091 (OP)
>china
>decent
1) A lot of that chink highspeed track isn't properly maintained and thus cannot be used at its very theoretical speed. Highspeed rail is a retarded idea and a moneypit, even in Japan done specifically to cut down on traffic. It is neither an advantage or disadvantage, if it implemented properly, which isn't even the case in Chikland as many of their raillines were created to boost apparent GDP but are neglected partly because chinks gonna chink and partly because they have nearly no passengers to service.

2) The US moves more tons of freight over more miles of track than either and thus one could ask why they don't have decent freight lines, which in Europe's case is understandable because originally they had different rail gauges which means that the old rail was never updated until trucks competed.

3) Niggers and spics exist, which Europoors know given their current inundation with shitskins. Not only do they make the journey unpleasant, the system facilitates their movement to peaceful white areas and reduces segregation.

4) American whites are not urban or cosmopolitan, thus have no use for mass transit which services areas they have interest in. And shitskins don't pay for infrastructure anyway.

>>509440388
Except they don't by comparison.

>>509443856
Nigger, did you use AI to generate your argument for you?

>>509444078
It literally doesn't not. Even the best trains right now don't accelerate that quickly. Maybe in an airless theoretical vacuum on a completely flat plane, but not in real life.

>>509444216
Taxes. Same as road infrastructure

>>509444179
Because its an absurdly unrealistic expectation that a train is gonna be loaded and unloaded in a minute. You act like random passengers going on a long distance trip are Olympic sprinters waiting at the starting line. Even the city bus at major stops waits longer than that.

>>509444305
>just raise your taxes bro, we can have irrelevant TRAINS. just think how cool the TRAIN would be from LA to NYC!
that is a silly idea. you are silly

WE ARE THE ONE MADE HSR REAL IN THIS WORLD AND CHINKS AND EUROPE PROUDING THAT SHIT????
REALLY FOLKS
WHY ARE THE CHINESE SHOWN IN THAT IMAGE AS IF THEY REPRESENT THAT ACHIEVEMENT?I DON'T UNDERSTAND EURO AND CHINKS JUST COPIED US AND THAT'S IT

>>509444287
>Except they don't by comparison.
You think you cant drive anywhere you want in Europe? wtf are you talking about

Chat GPT
New York - Miami
True high-speed rail (180–220 mph, like Japan’s Shinkansen or France’s TGV)
Top Speed: 186–220 mph

Average Speed: ~150–170 mph

Estimated travel time: 7 to 8.5 hours

Stops: 4–6 (DC, Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando)

Feasibility: Still "economical" if aligned wisely, with minimal tunnels/bridges. Would likely require new track but could be built along highway medians to reduce land acquisition cost.

>>509444288
I used it to calculate a hypothetical maglev from New York City to Miami with 10 additional stops along the way. 4 hours.

Why are leftists so fucking obsessed with obsolete modes of transportation from the 19th century like trains and bicycles?
We have jet planes now.
We've had automobiles for over a hundred years.

MOVE THE FUCK ON
I'm just waiting for you faggots to start whining about how we don't have a network of canals to travel in our cities like in Amsterdam, so we can travel by fucking gondola like in Venice, like it's the fucking Middle Ages. You faggots post picture medieval towns and villages as your urban ideal so don't even act like this an unrealistic caricature of you and not a legitimate prediction of your future behavior if we actually started to acquiesce to your urban policy proposals.

>>509440091 (OP)
people won't use them, and rail tickets cost as much as airline tickets.
AMTRAK doesn't even turn a profit, and there isn't enough demand to expand passenger rail. We have greyhound buses, those are what poor people use to go places.

>>509444410
Why is a (((leaf))) pretending to be retarded whilst hiding behind a memeflag?

>>509444430
Your shitty model doesn't take into account that high speed trains never actually travel at their top speed.

>>509440816
Your train station are dangerous.

>>509444522
It did actually.

>>509444430
And now you why ai slop is not to be trusted.

>>509444176
As a Vermonter, I do agree with you. The line from NYC to Albany is super convenient for whenever anyone's flying out of JFK.
And subways are great, I have no problems with them. Since they do provide a service that cars can't really offer in big cities.

But, as a country boy, I love cars. They allow for everything. The automobile bridges the rural archipelago of small, isolated towns and cities and forms them into an actual community.

I'm not autistic enough to care about trains.

>>509444484
>trains are bad because no one invests in passenger infrastructure
>no one rides the train because of this causing prices to shoot up
>a feedback loop of shit is created to justify why rail shouldn’t be invested in to provide alternatives for commuting or general travel.
it’s all so tiring

>>509440091 (OP)
Old world railways were built in an era when passengers flghts weren't as convenient and accesible as they are now
back then trains used to be the most efficient method of travel on land so they spread and expanded with no competition for decades.
By the time the New World was populated enough to justify railway construction, planes where already accesible so all that money went to build airports instead
if passenger trains were built today, they would be a comercial failure

>>509440091 (OP)
There are massive, MASSIVE distances between our major cities. Our nation is almost the size of the entirety of Europe, and yet our population is half of Europe's. There are huge tracts of empty space separating our urban zones. Rail infrastructure is thus insane and retarded for humans, though we do have passenger rail with like Amtrak. It's more of an expensive novelty, or a method for small-time smuggling since you don't need to go through the TSA and have your luggage examined.
What I'm trying to say is that Americans use cars for short distances, and we just travel via air for long distances. There is no appreciable market or desire for train travel in this country at all.

>>509444188
I can literally leave at one train station, go shopping and take the next train 30 minutes later to move on.
When you have a first world railway there arent trainstations only in the 5 biggest cities

>>509444599
Why's that?

>>509444481
It's just another way to make the whole "America le backward" argument. But with the addition of a map.
It is also a sign that these people are mostly pussies from big cities who are too scared to drive their car anywhere, and thus lament the lack of passenger rail, without understanding the economic and geographical reasons why passenger rail isn't a big thing.

>>509444694
80% of you Amerimutts live in the eastern half of the 48.

Just proper connections alongside the eastern coast wold connect half you

>>509444687
Also in Europe, since it's such an older place history-wise, the road infrastructure is cities and the countryside is embarrassingly poor.
Cramped narrow alleyways and country lanes repurposed into highways despite only having one lane.

In the USA, and other New World nations, our roads are big, even the ones in major cities and in very rural areas, which makes them far easier to travel on.
Thus cars are more useful in the American continents than in Europe.

>>509444410
he was talking about your primitive freight rail system but your road system is also comparably garbage. enjoy looking at the ground to avoid confrontation with all the arabs and gypsies on your choo choo though

>>509440091 (OP)
We’ve got the rails, we just also have money, so we elect to spend that money on the luxury of our own vehicles in most cases. Furthermore, we have land, and that’s not the same thing as saying that we take up area. While the entirety of Europe and the USA take up similar space, Europe was already densely populated when the rails were being established, while America had vast stretches of open prairie and wilderness. By the time we started to fill that space (which is still mostly dedicated to agriculture) we were beyond the need for rail, as again, we had the money and means to support cars in every household. It’s seen as necessary to own a car in most American towns, as they tend to sprawl on for dozens of miles given our land of plenty. Verily, our limited use of public rail is just another sign of American superiority. India’s got a pretty high reliance on public rail though if you were looking for something more your speed.

>>509444707
>I-if I w-waited thirty m-minutes a-and then bought a s-second t-ticket, then I-i could do what you can
Listen to yourself.

Trains are worse than cars and planes, Americans are rich enough for cars and planes.
Explain why we should use a lesser form of transportation.

>>509440488
We can't have a train that goes from one side of LA to the other because America is big? Can't have a train that goes from Dallas to Fort Worth because Montana is really spread out?

There's always someone to regurgitate this dumb talking point.

>>509445144
>bought a s-second t-ticket
The monthly pass for all of germany is 49 euros. No need to buy another pass

>>509440488
Cope utter retard

>>509444939
Hans, you need to understand this. Outside of maybe NYC and Las Vegas, there is no real reason to be in one city in America as opposed to another. They're all the fucking same and have the same shit in them.
A Bostonian just has no reason to go to Philadelphia. And a man from Pittsburgh never needs to go to Detroit.

We are already connected by planes and cars. And there is passenger rail from the major cities on the east coast.
Why would we need more.

>>509445217
no one has explained why I would even want that

>>509440091 (OP)
>Even Jeets have better trains than burgers
Grim.

>>509445385
It's cheaper and faster

>>509445313
Oh shit, that's actually convenient.
You're still limited to the rail schedule and railroads, which is boring. And you'll still have to deal with the public. All making it inferior to cars, but that is a good deal.

Why do you use a meme flag if you're European? Are you a Turk?

>>509445144
Why would i need a second ticket? I pay for one ticket and can drive through the country as much as I want the entire month.

If you dont want to spend even half an hour at a place, why would you even stop there?

>>509444939
We invented the automobile so many decades before you did, that we basically skipped over rail entirely. We also invented the airplane way before you did. Modern rail is something we skipped purely because we're more technologically advanced than you are.
Rail is quite literally obsolete in the US. Cars and planes handle our passenger traffic just fine.
I'd agree with you if you were talking about public transport specific to our major cities, but passenger rail is just retarded for our purposes. Hell, it's retarded for your purposes too, you just use it anyway because it's so well-developed you may as well.
Why the fuck would we want to spend hundreds of billions of dollars creating passenger transportation infrastructure we don't need?
Your whole argument is stupid as hell.

>>509445443
as the bong showed it's not faster and how do you know it'd be cheaper when you want to tax people to build it?

>>509445217
>We can't have a train that goes from one side of LA to the other because America is big? Can't have a train that goes from Dallas to Fort Worth because Montana is really spread out?

Retard, both of those lines are already present in OP's image!
You can go by rail coast to coast. You can go from Dallas to Fort Worth via rail.

>>509445469
Forgive me, I've never been to Germany since there's nothing interesting to see there. I didn't know you had such a good offer on train-based transportation.

>>509445320
>Heh, our entire continent is 26% larger than your one, singular nation
>We're so powerful!

>>509445540
It is faster within 500km. Which encompasses most travel for most people

>>509443856
For completeness's sake, here's the comparison to flying from NYC to Miami. Even including the train stopping at other places, it is still an hour or so faster than flying.

>>509445385
He's still wrong whether he wants it or not. But he can't just be honest and say
>Well I just don't like it
he has to pretend there's some kind of rational argument for why it's totally impossible.

Most everything /pol/ says on this subject is made up bullshit.

>>509445657
>within 500km
>300 miles
just fucking drive

>>509445492
>We invented the automobile so many decades before you did
Oof, bad example. The Germans were the first ones to make cars.
Of course it was Americans who first made good cars, but Germans did technically invent them first.
>We skipped over rail entirely
No we didn't. America had the most rail in the world outside of the British Empire. It just went away as Americans switched to other methods of transport.

>>509445761
Why would I do that when I can take the train?

>>509444410
Europe on average moves about larger percentage of its freight on its less extensive road system, that's what "in comparison" means. The same way I could say Europe and China have a vastly less extensive system of airports in comparison, as to whether that is sufficient to their respective needs isn't relevant.

The real question is "why to Eurofags give a shit?" much the same way we ask the question to libtard whites(who now account for less than 20% of whites compared to 50% as late as the 90%) "why do you fucking care?" Think about it, if you don't like us then why do care if we are deficient in terms of infrastructure, you don't live with us, we are segregated it doesn't effect you. Moreover in the case of the domestic libtards, "why would you want us to consume portions of the budget which might be allocated toward your interests if we don't want to."

This is of course a rhetorical question, we here all know that it is because you are faggots addicted to socially signaling. They need their peers to tell them they have the right opinion regarding that perceived opposition, and they live for the magical day which will never come when those with inherently oppositional behavioral dispositions change their ways and praise the libtard for saving them from themselves." When we tell you that neither system is really that different from the other in terms of outcomes and that we wouldn't really give much of a shit eve if they were it is impossible for the left leaning faggot to accept it. Stay out of our fucking business; we don't care about you so why must you care about us.

That's why when all the kikes, niggers, spics, faggots, saracens, seamonkeys, chinks, jeets, and assorted scum are exterminated you are next, because you can't just leave it alone.

>>509440091 (OP)
Europeans just don't understand we don't need it and nobody wants it except faggot liberals. I used to ride Amtrak occasionally, still do, ALWAYS empty.


None of these democrats faggots ride it now, so why would we listen to them and build it up just for them to continue not using it? To be more like Europe? Nty, Pass.

>>509445860
You can't take a train lol

>>509445860
Because cars are better.
And faster.
And usually cheaper.
And they allow you to make any detours you want with no hassle.
They also mean you won't have to follow some dumb schedule and will be able to arrive and leave by your own wonting, not by what the train is leaving at.

>>509445761
Europeans are weird with how they view distances.
Brits will moan and whine about how hard their long distance relationship is when the two live just an hour and a half away.

>>509445492
>that we basically skipped over rail entirely.
This isn't even close to true. Rail dominated the entire country in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. It's how people got out West and it's how people got around cities prior to the 1940s/50s. LA had an extensive street car network which got ripped up to make way for cars. Any city that existed before 1940 had such a network at one point in time.

>>509445573
Not my point dumbass. The argument that America is too big is an area argument, when the only thing that prohibits practical train usage is density, a problem that area has no influence on. If you have a plate that's a yard square and you have a pile of 20 peas on it, you're not required to spread the peas out all over the plate so that they're equidistant. You can just put them in a pile. These posts pretend there's a law of the universe that states that people must be spread out evenly across the whole country when they aren't and don't have to be.

If you felt smart posting that little gotcha you need to rethink your existence on this planet.

>>509445320
I don't see no fuckin alaska on that map. It's 3.93 vs 3.8 million sqmi, and I put that in freedom units just to fuck with you. So the difference is trivial. , however the US has more than twice as much arable land area as Europe and utilizes far less of it as a percentage. We also have far more managed but uninhabited land. And since only whites matter, why would intra and inter-urban mass transit matter to us?

>>509446153
Faggot, I don't even know what you're trying to argue.
Are you trying to say that 'America being too big/sparsely populated' isn't a good argument?
Ok. Sure.

But why should America have rail still when we have better means of transportation.
If I wanted to go to a neighboring city, I could go by car. If I needed to go cross country, I could fly.
Why would we need more trains?

>>509440336
Based
>>509440091 (OP)
US is huge without much density. It's also not a line. Even a bullet train running like it does in Japan would not get you across the country conveniently.

China has mega population centers. It also has political will to throw together whatever shit it needs to

Look at Canada, Australia and Mexico for similar examples of large countries without decent high speed rail.

>>509446411
>Why would I need a car when I have this horse?

>>509446001
>faster
Not in places with rail from this century
>cheaper
fucking kek. Average american spends 20% of their income on their cars. German universal rail pass is 50 euros.
>waiting
You hardly have to wait in places with modern rail.
>detours
I'll give you that

>>509446153
Man what happened in the 40s and 50s? Was it cars which made the cities die via an abstract social process which is hard to define? Or was it the deliberate importation of niggers which drove everyone to the suburbs. Race is the answer to all questions, because it is real. Now cities are shitholes I wouldn't want to live in even if they were 100% white, because I hate people and only care for my extended family. But let's be clear almost nobody moved to the city for the scenery or culture, they moved for industrial jobs.

>>509446438
see
>>509442929

>>509446503
*50 euros a month

>>509446542
"White" flight happened before the black migration. In fact, black migration was partly caused by cheap rent resulting from white flight.

>>509440091 (OP)

Rail requires too much infrastructure to be practical unless you're building a theme park

For NYC I'm sure it's gangbusters but most places wouldn't have the economies of scale to justify the investment and it's better to take a car or fly

>>509440285
>>509440372
head-in-sand retards like you are the reason we can't have nice things

>>509446411
>why would we need more trains?
to keep the pajeet population at a safe level

>>509446744
No it didn't nigger, die in fire. Their were affluent anglos and germans moving out sporadically since the 20s sure, but they were replaced by mics and wops. It was the importation of niggers and latter spics which drove those out.

>>509446802

>>509440336
its related to gas consumption dependency you subhuman mongrel