Why do people seem to have forgotten that all that is needed to wield absolute power on society is for groups of men to band together and speak out their minds about their needs and desires?
Look at /pol/. It's a shill honeypot, yet unavoidably the same opinions emerge over and over again as long as you can't censor people's opinions.

We all want the same things. As long as be band together we will realize we can demand anything we want from society as men. The more we band together in larger groups the more we realize that men's natural needs ARE civilization, and all others are degenerate.

The mistake was thinking science and reason were somehow more important than that. Now we treat each other like enemies, when every man in the world simply wants the freedom to be a man on his ancestral land.

brapitalism is inimical to fraternity because it causes all social relations to be viewed instrumentally and adversarially

>>509449473
While that's true, I think that is a problem of priorities. If men prioritize their banding together, capitalism becomes a secondary issue. I think a bigger problem is that we gave away too much power to three legal and executive branches of government. We now expect justice and bravery to be done by others. But men are about virtues: justice, bravery, temperance, wisdom need to be responsibility of every man, not some agency.
In ancient times laws were guidelines because they couldn't be easily enforced everywhere. With technology they are too easily enforced, so the same laws become tyranny.

okay, band formed.

now what.

>>509450539
Now you can demand what you want of government and society. Publicly. At the local level, until more men agree. The key difference from voting is that women are ignored. These are demand as men and all fighting force. Peaceful, but constant. All you have to believe is that other men will agree with you.
You don't need any weird cult, because you're not asking for anything the majority wouldn't want anyway.
Let me give you one popular example: women.
Ban abortion. Then ban female vote. Then demand women obey their husbands as default, not the state. Kvetching will be loud at first, but more and more men will eventually agree.
Then ban all immigration. Ban foreign citizens in power. Honestly, your can ask anything as long as it's in the benefit of the majority of men. And it's a lot you can demand. And all you have to do is be united and as strong as possible. You don't even need to do anything specific. We just forgot the inherent power of being men.

>>509451113
>Ban female vote
How do you anticipate this happens? 50% of women + their simps will oppose you. All your ideas are gay and you are a faggot stick to cooking pasta your nation peaked in 37AD.

>>509449133 (OP)
My own mother would put me in jail if she heard me say nigger.

>>509451113
i understand how bands work, being a one man band and all.
lots of drama.

TAKE AWAY WOMEN'S RIGHTS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

>>509451429
It doesn't matter, once you have a majority of men on your side you rule that area. First ask for abortion, then something else. All you have to do is ask for something all men agree on. Virgins without debts and tattoos? Every man agrees on it. It's that easy.
Also what's your idea to improve things? Come up with an idea of your own arrive you'll be worth listening to.

>>509449133 (OP)
Sounds gay

>>509451460
She's a woman. All she should know how to do is stay quiet. Women speaking up still hasn't done a single useful thing in the history of mankind. And you can easily teach her that she has no power over a man, nor should every have any.

>>509451643
Are you seriously quoting a Jew? They can have their rules on their own land which they defend with their own strength. That's what self-determination is. Every nation in the world is based on violence.

>>509451654
We all agree on that, so we should have it because we men are civilization itself. No woman or politician ever built or maintained anything.

>>509449133 (OP)
it needs to be white men only. the others are too quick to succumb to insubordination.

>>509452787
You have to deal with what you got locally, or move to where the men you want are first. If you try to make distinctions locally all you do is waste energy fighting before you get any power. That's why you have to be loyal to men first before you get to make distinctions. Men always fight eventually, but the problem is men are being emasculated today. First you gotta regain your power as a man, then use it to fight as much as you please afterwards. The strongest will win anyway and build the strongest civilization. The important thing is not letting scum manipulate men anymore first.

>>509450332
I don't think the delegation of certain powers to the state (like criminal justice enforcement) necessarily produces a deficit of the attendant virtues in the population. Ideally the state's wielding of those powers would serve to increase those attendant virtues in the population, not cause them to atrophy. What causes the state's wielding of those powers to atrophy those attendant virtues in the population is when the state wields them unjustly, because people become cynical and apathetic when they try to exhibit those virtues only to have the state contradict them and suppress them by enforcing an unvirtuous social order which they're powerless to oppose. I.e.:
>Why should I bother trying to do the right thing if the state is just going to punish me for it? It's not worth caring about if I'm just going to be overruled and silenced
So the question then becomes "what causes the state to exercise its power unjustly", the ultimate answer to which I would again propose to be capitalism

>>509449133 (OP)
Science and reason are necessary for us to agree on facts. However, this is not a substitute for agreeing on values.

Rescuing men from feminism and leftism more broadly is our most important task. These men have suffered immense demoralization and propagandizing. They support an ideology which sees them as evil. They believe they must actively suppress their own nature, which they have been told is evil. In short, they've been taught to hate themselves.

We must teach them that they are not oppressors, but liberators; not rapists, but protectors; not barbarians, but builders; and not servants, but masters.

This will require having dialogue; we must persuade left-wing men through reason, rather than isolating ourselves and attacking them. God has given men authority over women. Thus, any authority that feminism has, comes from men.

When a male feminist unshackles himself, he will no longer carry himself with the guilt of being a man. His cohorts will see the difference in how he carries himself and want to be like him. Soon, you will find this ideology dying off in the thousands, but I challenge all you to convert only one.