Thread 509492567

>wanted NFA repeal
>instead the "tax" is lowered $200
>still requires federal registration
>now legal precedent for changing the tax meaning the first thing the antigun crowd will do next time is make it prohibitively expensive ("it's not a gun BAN")
>opened the door to add all semiautos to NFA
>mfw we'll never get repeal now
>mfw total registration and confiscation are now on the table
>mfw "progun" people sold us out for a $200 coupon and are now celebrating
it's unironically so fucking over

>>509492567 (OP)
Try not being poor if you want rights.

>>509492567 (OP)
At least they didn't sell off our land to private equity firms and c*ina

>>509492567 (OP)
Maybe. Or Maybe
>tax lowered to zero
>no longer any possible argument that it's a tax
>de-facto registry
>registries are specifically illegal
>SCOTUS overturns NFA
Or maybe
>suppressors and SBRs become even more common use
>anti-gunners jack up tax to make it prohibitively expensive
>tax is now a clear infringement on common-use arms
>SCOTUS overturns NFA

By the way, if lowering the tax is so horrible, what have you done to help this situation other than bitching on the internet?

>>509492570
>voot harder!

>>509492570
Burn.

>>509492571
I'm not the one whose butthurt over a sin tax being eliminated and setting up the NFA for a dozen different challenges. I'm fine with this outcome. What have you done?

>>509492570
This would require them to actually care about the nfa. As it stands it's just a carrot on a stick for single issue voters

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE HAVE A FELL FOR IT AGAIN AWARD WINNER

>>509492570
>I-i-it's 6d checkers!! T-trust the plan!

>>509492571
Oh my fucking god, either go to DC yourself and light up congress like Vegas or shut the fuck up with your constant pissing and moaning. It's always
>vooting doesn't work its all rigged
Until the anti gunner gets elected, makes things worse and you go
>why did let the cringe candidate win?
If you hate it so much, it takes nothing to rile people up and start a political movement, maybe even get yourself into office or at least spam the inboxes of the geriatrics in power

>>509492573
>setting the NFA up for a dozen different challenges
I admire your optumism brother but it is not well placed. It wasn't a 5d chess move it was a politically safe distraction

>>509492574
>waaah you can't make things slightly better because then the antis might do a thing they were eventually going to do anyway and the court might not do a thing they probably weren't going to do anyway so we have to keep things as they are to hold out for a hypothetical perfect solution that would be even less likely to happen than any of that and is not made any less likely by lowering the tax
Please stop.

So does that go into effect after 90 days or is the tax change immediate?

>>509492578
And? Things are still better today than they were yesterday. Do you seriously think that by doing nothing at all and keeping the NFA as an obscure topic it was just tone day going to magically accumulate enough opposition to disappear? This is how you make progress.

>>509492577
>it takes nothing to rile people up and start a political movement
And you fat fucks would call them a fed to justify sitting on your diabetic lard ass doing nothing while the country goes to hell.
Just turn in your guns now. They were never anything but expensive toys.

Mass and very public noncompliance is the only way forward.

If you truly believe that you have an unalienable right to firearms ownership, then you would have no problem exercising that right. Otherwise, you don't actually believe it's a right at all.

The problem is, that most "second amendment enthusiasts" don't actually believe that these are rights. That is why they want you to beg and plead with the federal government. That is why, ironically, they don't deserve the privilege of firearm ownership at all.

>>509492580
I'm a tard, 1 JAN 2026.

Lefty shills on /k/ malding. Must be a day ending in Y

>>509492583
They don't.
And they don't.
Mutts love to boogalarp but they're the first to roll over for their (((slavemasters))) at the mere suggestion of their credit score decreasing. All those guns and still a slave colony ruled by hooknosed pedophiles. Sad.

>>509492567 (OP)
>still seething
More people are going to get into NFA shit now and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>509492583
Post guns.

>>509492567 (OP)
You're a dumbass OP. I've been advocating for removing suppressors from the NFA for a long time, I supported the first HPA in 2017, and have donated to ASA. It was a long shot to get it through reconciliation, but it still raised the political profile. And this is still a real win. The biggest way to get suppressors and SBRs removed from the NFA in a sustainable way is the same as always with laws: steadily build political momentum and support.

And the most basic way to do that is also clear: more suppressors in the hands of more people. The more owners there are, the more people see the very real benefits and realize that the hollywood fearmongering bullshit is a bunch of garbage (suppressed guns are still loud, just easier to get below the "hearing damage" level and safer/nicer for everyone else in the area), and frankly/cynically the bigger the industry gets so it can do more and more lobbying, the better the politics will get.

For that, losing the $200 floor is a big, big fucking deal. Eforms&fast approvals don't eliminate the pain, but they have reduced it a lot. And there is no inherent reason suppressors can't start at $50. The tax is the core of what forced the American market into a weird place where there is only mid to ultra high end range, nothing cheap. With that at $0, a lot of new options can open up. And psychologically, it also takes away from of the "this is a special, luxury item, so regulation makes more sense!" feel. When regular people see suppressors for $50-100 and then see all the BS around them, I think that too will niggle some noggins.

in short: don't not to be a dumb doomer faggot 100% of the time OP, maybe work to bring it down to 80% ok?

>>509492568
>Try not being poor
and not being a criminal
>muh lists

>>509492587
>more people are going to get into NFA
We know. Our fingerprint scanners and Palantir-enhanced personal database is ready. Please have your mugshot uploaded at your earliest convenience. This is what winning is like, by the way.

>>509492587
>post guns
Not an argument, cuck.

>>509492588
You know /k/ has lefty shills right? Odds are faggot OP is one of them because every real gun owner is celebrating right now.

>>509492583
The problem is federal agents will set your house on fire with you and your family locked inside for "noncompliance" while they let criminals openly flaunt the laws.
>then shoot back
People with something to lose generally don't want to get into a gunfight with the feds, and the feds aren't going to go after people with nothing to lose because that's going to be nothing but gunfights. When enforcement is nothing but gunfights the social contract has failed completely and all future "enforcement" is just going to be extra judicial executions. Changing to situation by force would involve open rebellion against the government because you don't get to go "we just want the NFA overturned and we'll go home".
>boot licker
You gonna be the first to die for it? I don't have the strength of conviction to do it, and I don't believe that they wouldn't retaliate against my loved ones even if I did and they were completely uninvolved.

>>509492590
>oops you posted a happy merchant in 2011, your bank account is now frozen and you're fired and evicted
>private companies can do what they want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>509492587
I sincerely doubt 200 dollars represented the one barrier to entry that was holding back the flood gates. Maybe some more will take the plunge now and that will convince people it's not a huge time investment anymore, maybe

>>509492567 (OP)
Nothing was stopping Dems from doing this before you fucking retard

>>509492593
And this is the heart of the matter. Nobody's going to put their life on the line for what even the most "based" gun owner knows deep down are just overpriced range toys.

>>509492590
Oh no, now they have receipts for all the many, many more people they intend to rugpull into felons without expanding their ability to enforce such laws. Whatever shall I do? Also I hope you've never filled out a 4473. Who am I kidding? You'd probably call a private, paper free gun sale a fed honeypot

>>509492595
Correct, it was the fingerprints and registration and now that's never going away, if anything now the grabbers are going to want that for all gun sales

>>509492591
Then silence, foreigner and/or child

>set a precedent for future raising of the tax
>settle for what is essentially compromise in gun rights legislation
>all to save a couple day's worth of flipping burgers
Wow, such a victory, I can't wait until the dems raise the tax to $5000, and even THEN people will still beg and plead and we'll be even WORSE off than we were before.

I remember when this board actually gave a shit about firearm rights and not this reddit shit we have now.

>>509492593
>Feds burn people who are non-compliant with the law within their homes
>But let criminals flaunt the laws
Bit contradictory

>>509492602
Yes the devil worshiping pedophiles who run ZOG are just a wee bit hypocritical among their other unlikable traits

>>509492602
Because somehow the feds know when a white person does it and only bothers to set them on fire. Why? Clearly it's because the jews want a bunch of armed blacks and beaners running about while they systematically disarm and murder every white person. Why? I dunno, something about the liberty or some shit, stop asking questions and be scared and demoralized

>>509492583
And what makes you think the people who are arrested for non-compliance won't just be 'rightfully' mocked by people who see them as gun-nuts who should've been put away anyway?
>"we can protest and fast as much as we like and they will laugh in our faces!"

>>509492605
>who are arrested for non-compliance
Where are these people? Why do you jump at shadows? Bubba has had a rifle stock on his 10/22 Charger for years without a second thought. He (along with most people) will never see an ATF agent in their life. The government is not omnipotent.

>arrested for non-compliance

"your honor I plead guilty to not complying with the national firearms act by failing to pay the tax of the amount of zero dollars"

>>509492603
>>509492604
You have proof to show that feds only hunt armed white people who break the law and let the actual criminals live free? Or is this claim based on your feelings?

>we still have the brace loophole
>we still have the AFG loophole
>we still have the FRT loophole
>people STILL want to doompost
>provocateurs will reply to this post with a bunch of cuckoldry analogies

>>509492603
People who are non-compliant with the law are also known as criminals
You just don't like it when enforcement if law happens to (You)

>>509492608
My source is the talking lemur that appears when I do peyote. He's a reliable source, unlike the catfish that only speaks French that appears with datura

>>509492609
>be weed smoker
>enjoy your federally very illegal drug without consequence, across the country
>no stupid loopholes required
>ten year federal mandatory minimum for marijuana cultivation? lol, lmao, here's a job growing weed
Pathetic that "gun people" got BTFO by drug addicts. Marijuana users got it even worse as they never even had a second amendment, yet were more willing to stand up for those things they believed were rights.

>>509492611
Thanks for confirming that your paranoid schizo theory was just a feelings-based paranoid schizo theory

>>509492604
>Chicongo
>Whites are subject to intense scrutiny for even buying ammo for grandad's 1911
>meanwhile Shitquavius and his homeboys roam the streets with giggleglocks and full auto AKs with impunity

>>509492567 (OP)
>Oh no please be demoralized guys!
No.

>>509492601
>same talking points people already countered in the last 5 threads
Yeah, I'm sure the total repeal of all gun laws would have withstood the Byrd rule and passed. I don't even think you're arguing in good faith at this point, I think you're anti-gun and mad people on the left didn't pay enough attention to this to oppose it. Post guns.

>>509492609
Braces are stocks.
The FRT is fully automatic.
By admitting these things are "loopholes", you yourself are giving authority to the NFA and tyranny.
The gun grabber you once rightfully feared now lives inside your head.

>>509492612
>across the country
Lol no.

Ps: You're not American

>>509492616
>post guns
Sorry Agent Smith, but as you might have already guessed, I lost all my firearms in a tragic accident while skydiving over an active volcano.

>>509492614
>Another paranoid schizo theory of persecution without proof
kek

>>509492619
>No gunz
Yep, that's what I thought.

>>509492601
Yeah just like all the other times they did that. The Obama years buying 7 gorillion dollars tax stamps for a $300 suppressor were rough.

>>509492618
About 74% of Americans live in states where marijuana is legal for either medical or recreational use, and approximately 54% live in states where recreational use is permitted.

Also, you're arguing with minutiae because you don't want to address the larger point.
>>509492621
Reddit is the website to go to if you want to post your toys. They have an upvote system where people can rate how cool your toys are. You should go there if you want to see people's guns.

>>509492620
>blacks cause crime in cities
>SOURCE??????
back2reddit fag

>>509492623
>About 74% of Americans live in states where marijuana is legal for either medical or recreational use, and approximately 54% live in states where recreational use is permitted
You said most of the country not most of the population

>Reddit is the website to go to if you want to post your toys
Lol you're the guy being asked to post guns too? Lmao. How many people are you trying to demoralize.

Anyway, we post guns in /k/ all the time. You can't because you're a nogunz libshit

>>509492624
reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it, you paranoid schizo retard

>doomposting
>noguns
Very organic thread. I too yearn for the days of $200 tax stamps. In fact they should be $400 to own the libs.

>>509492610
>niggers committing mass rape and murder
>White men with families not filling out paperwork properly
Spot the difference

>>509492626
> even though I disputed your claim, thus placing the burden of proof on you I did not literally ask for sauce so ha!

All this schizo babble sounds exactly like temperance movement ninnies blabbering about the first signs that Prohibition would come to an end.
>UHH, SO WHAT IF THE POLICE ARE GOING TO THE SPEAKEASY NOW - IT'S STILL A CRIME
>TFW the 21st Amendment rolls around and blows all the Karens out

>>509492629
You still haven't done anything to prove that whites are specifically targeted by the police over blacks. Literally give me any numbers or I'll continue to thunk you have some weird victim kink

>>509492614
I don't understand why wh*tebois can't just take the hood pill.
https://youtu.be/YFfGgeddAc4?feature=shared

>>509492590
Should’ve bought PLTR in 2023 when it was ~$15 and held. Then maybe you wouldn’t have to LARP as rich on the turkish pan-hooting circlejerk.

>>509492631
Have you tried getting a gun in Chicago, New York or Los Angeles?

>>509492634
You're arguing with a tranny nogunz reddit tourist

>>509492634
And this specifically affects whites and whites alone. Ah yes how could I forget all laws only exist for the detriment of white people and minorities can just do whatever they please with no worries of legal consequences

>>509492636
Effectively yes.

>>509492632
Because nobody protests when cops use brutality on Whites
>>509492631
>Duncan Lemp
>Daniel Shaver
>Ruby Ridge
>Waco
>"y-y-you must be a delusional sex pervert!!!"
dilate

>>509492636
>faggy sarcasm in lieu of actual reply
redditor confirmed

>>509492635
Bitch I'm the only one who's posted guns in this shitass thread and I've probably been on this board when you were in diapers. I have no patience for a bunch of underaged doomposters and their weird feitsh for being victimized
>>509492638
And for every one of those you have a dozen niggers getting busted on gun charges and usually dying in a shootout with the cops, your point?

>>509492638
>>Ruby Ridge
>>Waco
famous Chicago standoffs lmfao
you have paranoid schizophrenia, or an odd persecution kink

>>509492640
Dem niggas getting busted in chud states like Allahbama and Texass. In PVP servers like Chiraq, and El AAAYY, Niggas be lettin off da hook when da poe poe take em in cuffs. Cuz we dindu nuffin and dey be racist n sheeit dez wh*te crackas

>>509492642
>"point out where Whites are targeted by cops"
>(does that)
>"NO NOT LIKE THAT"
nogunz tranny faggot tourist

Why do gunless, mentally ill polcels come here to gripe about gun matters?

>>509492608
https://www.wtoc.com/2024/11/13/570-increase-glock-switches-found-crime-scenes-atf-speaks-out/
Niggers running around with illegal machine guns, posting them all over social media. The justice department has so far announced a grand total of six arrests and prosecutions.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/six-charged-federally-glock-switch-takedown

Meanwhile.
https://saf.org/united-states-of-america-v-larry-a-vickers/
White dude who fudged import regulations to get more cool toys. You want to tell me there's no bias here? Guy had all the legal paperwork to buy post 86 samples and was interested in acquiring shit for his own collection. Do you have any idea how many man hours the ATF must have spent putting together a case to prove he violated paperwork requirements? We're talking proving bank level fraud with malicious intent levels of investigation.

Meanwhile daquarius shitnigguh slaps his blicky all over facebook and the ATF just fucking shrugs.

A picture defines reality for 49.9% of the US population.

>>509492644
your original claim was about Chiraq specifically you fucking retarded gimp, but you are forgiven, because schizophrenia causes disjointed thoughts as well as feelings of persecution and paranoia

>>509492641
>Ha! I took the "got what I voted for" meme and flipped it on them!
Cope.

>>509492645
BBB is a big win for Trump and the party as it ticks off a lot of promises and goals. They are very upset about it, particularly as it's quite a cunning bill and does more for our goals than the two reconciliation bills they got through.

>>509492648
Are you disputing that Chicago is awash with illegal guns? Or are you disputing that it is exceptionally hard for a Chicago resident to lawfully possess a firearm?

>>509492646
>six arrests
>active investigations to multiple crimes
so your original claim *only* whites are being targeted

>>509492645
Trump really wanted this bill to get through. It did get through. Queue mental implosion from people who have fallen for the trap of making politics their personality, along with a good sized dash of state actors trying to foment disorder and schizoid accelerationists hoping they can goad someone into shooting up a federal building, and you get threads like this.

>>509492652
You're a retarded pedantic nigger with no reading comprehension. My point was the ATF is more than happy to spend 100x the effort to fuck law abiding citizens for daring to step a toe out of line but will happily let criminals flagrantly display their illegal machine guns with their own personally identifying information and do nothing about it because they know they'll be shot at. This includes outright murdering women and children, which they have done. But you go on trying to argue semantics you gunless cocksucker.

>people who have been pissing and shidding their diapers about the tax removal never, ever post guns
curious

>>509492655
>posting weapons and serial numbers on the incel chud website

>>509492654
look you retarded faggot, your original "point" was a schizo persecution fantasy, not some 100% true fact with ironclad evidence, then you flip your shit when your headcanon gets challenged

>>509492656
>my guns just go to a different school
It's called tape you mongoloid

>>509492656
no one cares. i bet you actually carry a smart phone and have an active email account despite your blithering you mental midget.

Why the fuck do I keep seeing one of the biggest pains of the NFA being nuked being presented as a bad thing? Yes, I would have loved it if the NFA got killed or even if suppressors and sbrs got removed from the registry, but a win's a win.

>>509492583
>Mass and very public noncompliance is the only way forward.
Never going to happen due to the 2A being both cowards and Law Abiding Good Boys. It says a lot that the Governors of red states do absolutely to go after dumb laws like Short Barrels but blue state Governors will outright legalize Marijuana and spit in the face of the DEA in the process.

>>509492567 (OP)
Don't give up, you fucking bitch. If the NFA bleeds, that means we can kill it.

>>509492569
Also good, by the way.

>>509492571
He got more results than you ever did, you limp defeatist cuckold.
What the fuck have YOU done for the Second Amendment?

>>509492651
He's being a retard and pretending the "crime" problem isn't overwhelmingly a race problem

>>509492590
>Please have your mugshot uploaded at your earliest convenience.
They already have your drivers license

>>509492618
>across the country
Yes brainlet, half the states have legalized it recreationally and damn near all the Commonwealth and Native Nations have

>>509492656
Repeat after me
>Nothing
>Ever
>Happens

>>509492660
Because of leftoid shills and people larping as accelerationists.

>>509492656
>tape
>MS paint
>fucking anything
Post your fucking gun.

>>509492661
Cuckservatives continue to be the most useless, gutless, spineless, dickless excuses for "men" in existence. At least Israel is still getting billions. MIGA!

>>509492656
>weapons and serial numbers
I already filled out a 4473 Anon

>>509492668
>>509492661
Your posts are becoming increasingly bot-like.

Since posting a gun is clearly out of the question for you, how about a hand in front of an outlet. Something to confirm that there's an actual person behind these nonsensical ramblings.

>>509492660
I suspect it's the corporations and their shills who would make money off suppressors and SBRs removed from the NFA. Like FRAC, Silence Shop, PSA.
That or felons hoping deregulation goes to the extent that they can own a gun again.

>>509492660
Being a retarded accelerationist means actually not wanting any wins. If that sounds like it turns you into a neurotic unstable, perpetually miserable moron, it absolute fucking does and you're seeing the results of that.

>>509492570
>trusting the SCOTUS to overturn the NFA
This is top tier cope, they wont even take up commie state assault weapon bans you think theyre gonna overturn federal law?
We got a better chance of the machine gun registry being unfrozen than the NFA being struck down.

>>509492567 (OP)
Well
At least I get $200 off my silencer

>>509492667
It’s a Daniel Defense fully furnished with magpul, eotech, aimpoint, and streamlight, trust me bro. I am a patriot and only buy mil-spec ARs with TAA compliant furniture for the inevitable boogaloo where I’ll be facing over six million glocks and glock clones with holosun red dots.

>>509492656
I post my machine gun here and there, are the glowies gonna V& me for being a chud

>>509492670
>Your posts are becoming increasingly bot-like.
Now lets see Paul Allen's gun

>>509492673
All I want is to force commie states to obey 2a, and for machine guns to be at least added to the NFA.

>>509492656
Tell the class exactly what happens when you post your legally obtained, likely card-purchased weapon on the internet in 2025.

>>509492676
Lmao retard they gon get your ass

>>509492678
>and for machine guns to be at least added to the NFA.
Anon, Machine guns are in the NFA since it was enacted, all transferable ones go through the same process as a SBR or silencer

>>509492680
but i have my cuckstamp and its transferable

>nfa tax stamp is now $0
Isn’t this really good for destructive devices?
Like now you can buy an RPG and rockets without paying $200 tax per rocket?

>>509492661
I'm not shooting up my local municipal building, sorry

>>509492654
They're not really "law abiding citizens" if they fail to comply with the law.
I mean I get what you're trying to say, that the police are enforcing the law selectively, but the terms you're using to describe this are nonsensical.

>>509492681
I mean only on the NFA and not restricted in any other way. I just want to be able to buy full auto firearms without paying the 5 figure boomer tax.

>>509492683
>Isn’t this really good for destructive devices?
DD and Machine Guns remain unchanged

>>509492683
>can stockpile 40mm grenades

my god...

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These posters are all Reddit mod trannies trying to demoralize because they have nothing else left. Make sure to tell them to 41% themselves.

>>509492683
No, the change is for suppressors and SBRs currently, but the tax could be removed from the other ones too.
Getting SBRs, SBSs, and silencers off of the registry entirely though would probably be easier than that and what we should focus on first.

>>509492687
Did the voted in bill remove the tax on SBS and AOW?

>>509492686
I yearn for that as well anon, I paid 27K for my transferable and the boomer I got it off said he paid like 8K for it in 2001.
I hate boomers and want an MP5SD instead of a 40 year old M16.

>>509492567 (OP)
>opened the door for adding all semi autos to the NFA
the fuck are you talking about, retard?

>>509492598
I didn't know they were selling super safeties in Australia. Nice.

>>509492660
there's a not-insignificant number of faggots that can only think in binary and if a positive development for gun rights is anything short of the total deregulation of firearm and firearm devices then it's a crushing defeat for 2A rights

>>509492695
They're known as unpleasable retard fucks, and they're one of the major reasons that leftists have been bleeding us all for decades, they literally cannot picture the idea of using the left's own weapon, gradualism, against them.

>>509492660
>biggest pains of the NFA
The biggest pain isn't $200 you poorfag, it's getting finger printed, waiting and having to the ATF every time you move or have a new residence.

>>509492693
He is brain damaged.

>>509492672
dunno if it's accelerationism instead of just good old doomerism, but that also eats away your brain eventually so basically two similar paths to the same outcome

>>509492679
I don’t know, tell me what happens? I unironically trust my card carrier more than any perturbed autist who probably doesn’t even have a drivers license and has to take the bus everywhere.

>>509492697
>you poorfag
Hah, nope
>it's getting finger printed
Just use the kiosk my guy, it's retard easy
>waiting
Hasn't been an issue for a while now, my last SBR cleared in literally 22 hours.
>and having to the ATF every time you move or have a new residence
How often does that happen? And when I did, the 5320 took like two minutes.

If any of those things are worse than a needless $200 expenditure then your priorities are fucked./

>>509492672
Accelerationists are dogshit because they will aggressively fight to prevent you from ACTUALLY fighting back against leftist gradualism.
Worst possible allies.

>>509492701
He's probably complaining about the registry and fingerprinting part being required, which is understandable, but those can also be destroyed.

What happens if I have NFA items and I move to a state where they are illegal
Can I leave them with my parents?

>>509492704
No, they have to follow you

>>509492703
If he means the principle of all that then he should've just said so.

>>509492705
Then what the fugg am I supposed to do with them

>>509492707
I think you should be asking yourself why the fuck you're moving to the shitholes of California, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Washington.

>omg they'll add black rifles to the NFA
>zomg they'll raise the tax stamp to $5000!
Why didn't they try doing that in the past? Apparently the Democrats are able to act with 100% impunity to disassemble the Second Amendment, but they have never added more items to the NFA nor increased the tax.

>>509492702
They're miserable tools who are just wanting to bring everyone down into the pit with them. Absolute cretins that should be kicked to the curb wherever found.

>>509492709
The dems can obviously only act with impunity when the reps finally make an attempt at repealing a piece of gun control. Don't you know the rules?

>>509492709
something something destroyed established norms something something somethings trump something something something no more appeasement

>>509492709
Not for lack of trying.

>>509492711
Having known people in Hawaii, most people there aren't wealthy because of the cost of living being high as fuck, rent and food prices are sky high because of how so many things need to be shipped from overseas.
Maybe if you're an already wealthy investor this is less of a problem to you, but then you could just have a second home somewhere else anyway.

>>509492711
So do those states, and they have gotten very good at wringing it out of your.

>>509492714
Which is correct, they have tried adding things to the NFA in the past, and they also haven't been able to. They have tried to vote on nationwide AWBs again but haven't been able to either.

>>509492571
vooting harder allowed us to go from National AWB to consitutional carry in most states.

Vooting harder gave us braces and super safetys.

>>509492718
N-no, you're supposed to give up! DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU FELL FOR IT AGAIN?!

>>509492711
For 2/3rds of those I hope you're in some niche biotech position because otherwise you're going to get sucked dry. I can tell you from personal experience that it's fucking wild to be making $170k and still not be able to afford a house and have to budget out gun purchases.

>>509492660
Because the gun owner community is chock full of maximalist crybaby retards.

>>509492715
>>509492716
People move to places where they can get jobs. NY, CA, etc. have a shitload of job opportunities and the highest pay in the country. That’s how you get high population, high cost of living areas.

Hawaii, not so much. People move there for the nature and climate, not for the jobs. And of course everything is naturally more limited on an island.

>>509492715
>talk to dude in Hawaii
>his face when he learns that you can get a $900/month apartment for $300/month on the mainland

>>509492721
To be generous, they're also probably young and never lived through the AWB, so they didn't get a chance to personally experience how bad things can really get, and by extension see how much things have improved. They just don't have any actual perspective.

>>509492723
>Hawaii
>$900/month apartment
…anon

>>509492722
>and the highest pay in the country
Guess the reason for that. I can stop being a pipe fitter and take up a $80k basic tech job in Palo Alto, which would be a hefty pay raise. My standard of living would basically drop to abject poverty levels.

>>509492567 (OP)
sold out the entire fucking country and didn't even get anything worth a fuck out of it, if $200 was the only thing stopping you from getting a can, you were the type of poorfag this bill absolutely fucks over anyway so you got what you deserved

>>509492726
Prices in Palo Alto are ultra high because wages are ultra high. Not the other way around.

Besides I wouldn’t recommend Palo Alto even if you were working in big tech.

>>509492725
It was a long time ago.

Jannies at it again

what a fucking faggot

>>509492729
I pay $900 a month for a shitty studio in the ghetto in the midwest

It’s over

>thread suddenly dies now that flags are visible
Curious.

>>509492567 (OP)
Stop being such a doomer faggot
I dont love the half measure but it IS a good thing.
I got my first gun almost 30 years ago. I have been into this shit my whole life and in that time there has not been one single time other than the present that and kind of realistic challenge was made against the NFA. The closest was in trump 1 with the hearing protection act but that never made it out of committee.

The current state of affairs may not be ideal, but it takes a big chunk out of a law that has seemed invincible for the last 3 decades.

Is this going to end the NFA? I Doubt it. But it gives us some momentum. And if that never happens and all we get out of this is 200 cheaper supressors and sbrs, still a win.

>>509492567 (OP)
Now's the time to get a couple silencers. 9mm, 5.56, .22, and .308 will cover you for everything realistically.

>>509492567 (OP)
Just add poll taxes to any gun tax bill and watch the left explode.

>>509492567 (OP)
it what you faggots deserve for trusting the republicans to do anything right

>>509493559
Is that a Janny function
Disabling the appearance of flags?

>>509492570
NFA and GCA are already unconstitutional based on existing precedent, it's just nobody cared enough to actually want to enforce the 2nd faithfully
and Bruen has specifically outlawed them

>>509497041
No, you fucking newfag, it means that a thread was moved from a board which didn't have flags.

>>509495147
Yeah, not as good as it could be, but you actually DID get a stab in at the NFA, which means it can be stabbed even more.

It needs to be reiterated that leftist haven't taken rights from all of us in just one single swoop, they've been slowly whittling away at our rights all over the world for a long period of time, ergo Gradualism. I think it would be INCREDIBLY foolish to not also use Gradualism in the meantime.
We can still aim for bigger targets, but smaller bites can also be taken in the meantime, and in the US, the National Firearms Act has already been weakened in multiple ways, the weaker it is, the easier it'll be to defeat.

>>509492568
You get to pay for the privilege of having the ATF come in your house at any time with no warrant for any reason they like.

>>509497787
if you wanted a cannon on your boat the founding fathers thought it was proper for it to be inspected, not because they were scared of cannons but because they wanted to make sure it didnt capsize the boat
the ATF warping this into its current form is repugnant

>>509497787
pretty sure thats for full-autos

>>509492567 (OP)
suck a dick, take the "w" for fuck sake.

>>509498159
All tax stamps.

>>509497787
>>509498159
No retards, this is a retarded myth pushed by faggots that are no-guns.

>>509492571
Donate to GoA faggot, oh wait youre an internet neckbeard posting on a mongolian fish net weaving forum

>>509498373
you're full of shit.
t. has had stamps for 25 years

>>509492709
>>509492712
>>509492714
(((Feinstein))) and the rest wanted an all out gun ban so we had no way to protect our families from thirdie rape hordes and jew pederasts, or did you forget that already?
>dems act with impunity
Because dickless goypublicans roll over for them immediately. Doesn't matter anyway, still the same zogged shithole paying tribute to Israel.

>>509497787
Does this ever actually happen? I've yet to have anyone come check on my suppressor. I think you're just looking for something to be mad about because you've turned being mad about everything into a core personality trait. We just rolled back, however incrementally, a piece of federal gun control and that's a good thing.

>>509492567 (OP)
Don't forget the entire FFL scam
>Erm ackshually you have to go to this fucking shithole store run by boomer faggots and pay 50$+ tip to prove you're allowed to have this gun you already paid for. Oh, it's a federal holiday? Enjoy your auto-denial and two week wait!
Kill all government employees

>>509496719
This.
>>509497739
>>509495147
>>509498244
>>509498919
Retarded faggots. This wasn't a win at all, this is a permanent federal registry at the cost of a $200 tax rebate. Registration always leads to confiscation.
I'd expect this gayness from nu/k/ but even for nu/pol/ it's exceptionally retarded and faggotastic.

>>509498025
What a load of shit
It's my fucking boat and my fucking cannon. Those wig wearing faggots can suck shit through a straw

>Spams retarded political shit on every other board
>Has a melty when people dare to disagree
>Will probably go round screaming POL IS RUINING 4CHAN
Same old same old

>>509497787
FFLs are subject to ATF inspection, not tax stamps.

>>509499282
It's a step in the right direction, and opens up the possibility for a suit getting in front of SCOTUS. The whole NFA is predicated on it being a tax. I don't think it'll take down the whole NFA, MGs and DDs are still subject to the $200 tax, but there's a solid chance of suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs getting stricken because they're no longer taxed.

>>509499282
NFA registration already existed. This removes the justification for it and lowers the barrier to entry, which will lead to more people getting into NFA items and strengthen the argument that they be considered "in common use." You are looking for something to be mad about when this is unambiguously a step in the right direction. We went from having an "Assault" Weapons Ban and mag restrictions to chipping away at the NFA in scarcely 20 years and you're mad about it; get some perspective.

>>509499282
This guy gets it. I'd only add the US govt along with the courts were captured a long time ago and our politicians do not represent us. They will never give up any form of firearm registry and we all know why.

>>509497787
That's for FFL dealers you retard

>>509499282
The National Firearms Act dates back to 1934, this registry already exists. What's been taken away from the NFA now is the tax for SBRs and silencers, what was taken away from the NFA back in 2015 was the requirement to have your local sheriff sign off on an NFA item.
Removing it entirely would be ideal, but if it can be shrunk until then, it's hardly a bad thing. The fact that these items aren't taxed anymore also means it's going to be easier to argue for their removal from the NFA entirely.

>>509498919
>Does this ever actually happen?
Maybe if you're a suspect in an investigation. To people who think this: the ATF only has so much staff, are they going to send guys out to go and look at the NFA items of millions and millions of randos on a whim?

There exists circa 3 000 000 registered machineguns in the US, 250 000 which are fully transferable. Say that they're only going and fuck with people who own transferables, that's a LOT of fucking people.
>Hey Anon Anonson, we would like to look at your transferable Sten.
>Ok, here it is.
Then what happens next? I know they're powertripping doubleniggers, but without some kind of angle, they aren't exactly gonna have much to leverage against anyone. They're gonna go and do nothing but take a look at various transferables until they find something they could make a case out of? That's like looking for needles in a haystack by slowly picking out one straw a day (being generous).
Now add in all sample machineguns, all silencers, all short barreled rifles, all short barreled shotguns, all any other weapons, and all destructive devices. There are a total of 7 500 000 or so registered NFA items in the US.

Are they going to waste their time on doing exactly nothing at all to the most law abiding and compliant demographic in the entire country? Lord knows they're scum, but this isn't going to be the vector that they're going to try to fuck you with.

OP is an incredible moron. They reduced the coupon to $0 so that it could be sued and removed via supreme court. With it being $0 it is now a federal registration rather than a tax, which is illegal for guns, and therefore for SBRs and Suppressor they will have to be removed from the NFA. This was always the plan B.

>>509502782
And also a lawsuit is already right now being made
https://youtu.be/xitS3wLHL3U?si=ZCrobouODfbVccyL

>>509502782
This nigger fucks.

>>509502782
>>509502952
The lawsuit will go nowhere. The courts are corrupt and for some reason 2A enjoyers are oblivious to it. We will never win by playing their game.

>>509504186
Have you been completely blind to courts? Anything gets insta appealed and brought to supreme court. This will easily go up to it since now someone can just say "I signed this paper to say I officially paid nothing? This is bullshit" instead of previously where they essentially needed to not pay a tax and give courts an excuse to claim tax fraud.

>>509504186
We are unfucking the courts. Trump has been very successful in reversing the course of court corruption and Supreme Court stacking which started under the fascist dictator FDR. It hasn't been perfect but a lot of progress has been made. Things that were not possible before are now possible.

Bump

>>509504186
SCOTUS gave us Heller and MacDonald in the last 15 years. The courts shut down the ATF on their brace ban fiasco as well. There is a solid chance that we get a meaningful decision out of this.

>>509504759
People really think Americans would start seeing all this expansion of carry laws without Trump's changes to the Supreme Court.

I don't love every single aspect of the guy, but he's clearly getting some really good things done, deportations and a better Supreme Court are fucking fantastic. I goddamn WISH I could have a leader who would deport some people around my parts.

/k/ fags are insufferable neo-liberal cheerleaders and deserve to get fucked in the ass for falling for the NFA registration scam.

>>509506570
Registration is next, you listless troon.

>inb4 it'll never happen
SBRs and suppressors making it back into BBB wasn't gonna happen either, nor was any part of it going to pass.
You know what else wasn't gonna happen? Not having to get your sheriff to sign off on NFA items.

>>509497041
Welcome to /pol/

>>509504565
Have you been paying attention at all? The game is rigged. They only give minor concessions if they are going to fuck us with it later or make it seem like the system isn't totally corrupt. They don't care about the law.

>>509498919
> his suppressor has a serial number
ngmi

>>509504759
>We are unfucking the courts.
You're begging your masters for your basic rights back you'll never get them. You'll only lose more.

>>509506890
That’s just jannies letting us know this is a glowie thread, (we already knew).

>>509506549
>>509507392

>>509492567 (OP)
B&T and PSA are standing side by side against this bullshit with an argument set in legal precedent https://www.gunowners.org/goa-to-file-one-big-beautiful-lawsuit-against-nfa-registry-as-one-big-beautiful-bill-heads-to-presidents-desk/

It's not over, if Republicans continue to cuck they'll die on this hill.

>>509492567 (OP)
There's always been the legal precedence. California is a good example of taxing firearms out of the reach of average people.

It's always been obvious that they don't care about criminals having guns, they care about the average citizen being armed.

>>509507392
The last big 2A case that came down was Bruen, and all six conservative justices, including that faggot Roberts, were in the majority. And the lower courts through out the brace ban and attempts at mass registration. Stop doomposting you demoralization faggot

>>509508282
Again, they only give minor concessions to prevent a revolt. Do you understand we shouldn't even be having this conversation? They took our rights away and they will never give them back. And you are carrying water for the system that is denying us our basic liberties. You deserve slavery.

>>509492673
They overturned Roe V Wade which is incredibly surprising. Anything is possible.

>>509509198
They didn't need it anymore with an open border.

>>509492567 (OP)
I live in a small city in Idaho. People were pretty gung ho at first but now everyone's nervous. People expected trump to step up and announce a plan, not just let Elon run wild. It's the knock on effects people are getting nervous about. Yesterday it's tranny story hour, today it's staff at the Idaho National Laboratory and tomorrow it might be land management. Ranchers are getting nervous. They can't plan ahead, same with the mining companies, and forestry, and what about Micron? The CHIPS act was big news here but it's all in doubt now. Nobody can plan for a future when everyday is a surprise and the guy running things can't be held to account by voters and doesn't give a fuck about what state and local officials have concerns about. Nobody is hiring due to uncertainty the big fear is tomorrow might be firings as companies prepare to weather the storm that has no end in sight... Holy fuck nobody voted for fear like this

>>509502448
>the ATF only has so much staff, are they going to send guys out to go and look at the NFA items of millions and millions of randos on a whim?
No, the Freemasons will just use this to harras and persecute their enemies like all of the other millions of laws that are only arbitrarily and selectively enforced when you piss off kikes and masons
>>509498919
>>509497787
>>509492567 (OP)
>>509492568

>>509508963
I'm well aware of all the applicable laws on the books, the one in question being almost 100 years old. From there chipped away decade after decade, now the tide is turning and we're breaking down the barriers one step at a time. A big hail mary trying to get the NFA and GCA all taken down at once isn't going to happen, and trying to do it all at once would likely backfire by creating a new precedent that would likely be much more difficult to overturn. Right now there's a solid chance we can knock down half the NFA in one fell swoop, and that opportunity isn't going to last long. Again, stop doomposting and use your fucking brain. This is chess not checkers.

>>509492570
>SCOTUS overturns NFA

Yeah and my grandma is gonna come back to life and clean my room and make me muffins.