Thread 509497936

>brilliant man
>started early
>took over the torch after the fed/larper rockwell was shot
>dedicated his whole life to the cause for almost half a century
>perseveres even though it costs him his decent job and his family, lose whole social network
>starting making almost no money again at 30 years old
>perseveres
>avoids pitfall of allowing tattooed freaks, sad people who dress in nazi uniforms and KKK robes to join, edgefags who just want to be violent, since they aren't productive
>argues to replace Christianity with his own religion, because he thinks it's cucked
>invests in alternative forms of propaganda (radio broadcasts, music, video games, comic books, literature)
>use groups funds to invest in stocks, buy significant shares in companies and try to affect their policies
>early adopter of internet for maximum effect
>movement is the biggest it's ever been
>biggest of its type in the history of the states to this day

Will there ever be another one like him? No one else has come close to replicating his success.

>>509497936 (OP)
we had this thread yesterday. He spoke all about wanting winners in his movement, but he allied with absolute schizos like bob matthews. It's alright to be someone like that as long as you're not a skinhead though. The turner diaries and hunter did far more harm than good, allowing (((Them))) to paint people like him as crazy terrorists. He was intelligent, knowledgeable about the problems, and the move to use the internet early was brilliant. But his execution was all wrong

Nazi's are ancient history, and Hitler was a failure. You shouldn't pay attention to echos of the past like this faggot.

>>509497936 (OP)
>took over the torch after the fed/larper rockwell was shot
when will English first language faggots stop pouring this poison? Why everyone is a LARPer or a Fed to you pea brained idiots?

>>509497936 (OP)
Anyone else notice their posts getting turned into threads? I do. Practically daily.

He was extremely intelligent, and his IQ was tested around 185. The speech below is one of the greatest I’ve ever heard.

https://odysee.com/@AreYouSureYouAreAwake:4/William-Pierce---Life:e

If you ask me, GLR was a total fag. Truly the Patrick Little of his day, complete with military credentials.

>>509498498
What are you talking about? Those books helped transfer his ideas in a palatable fashion to younger generations. Tons of people are reading them nowadays, if for no reason other than their stigma.

>>509499086
You're right.
We need more effective Ethnic National Socialist movements.

>>509498498
You mistake the intention. No nationalistic or tribally exclusive organization should be seeking to recruit the soft, lumpy, and bureaucratic for culture war. Those people are fundamentally interested in their image, in safety, sophistry, palatability. Ultimately they conform to the society around themselves and subsist as grievance based organizations that have outlived their purpose. Parasitic social organisms. New life won't ever be born from such cowardice. Identity requires a warrior mindset.

>>509497936 (OP)
>>avoids pitfall of allowing tattooed freaks, sad people who dress in nazi uniforms and KKK robes to join, edgefags who just want to be violent, since they aren't productive
The problem with this is that you need the lower classes on your side to a certain degree, or at least you need them to agree with your ideas. It can't just be a movement of intellectuals who wax philosophical. Eventually you need foot soldiers. You also need to adapt to the times. The Schopenhauer's and Spengler's of the world run the risk of being overly intellectual optics fags, which is ultimately self-defeating. This is where the purity spiral urge foments and actually attracts schizophrenic behavior. You have to make it cool to the modern youth and you have to forgive a certain level of priors.

I don't have all the answers, but it feels to me like there is a burgeoning movement among the White youth to be more racially conscious. To throw this away over sperg spiraling would be such an awful waste of a good moment in history.

>>509499361
>Rockwell was a fed
Yeah, I never heard that one before.
Is this a new psyop?

>>509498498
>allowing (((Them)))
Terrible argument. You cannot live your life or plan your strategies around what (((they))) will say about you or how they'll characterize you, because (((they))) will lie no matter what you do. That's like saying Hitler is to blame for everything that came after because (((they))) used WW2 to make National Socialism a taboo idea. You can't blame the people who tried to do the right thing for what the liars, parasite and leeches who came after said in order to lie and malign those heroes.

>>509499724
yes, but do you think it is better to read mein kampf, the ideological book of one of "history's greatest mass murderers" or "The turner diaries" a wet dream about a race war written by....some physics professor

>>509500241
so instead recruit schizos that go on shooting sprees and alienate normies entirely, giving (((them))) justification to further censor you

>>509500265
when does it go too far though? is nigga heil hitler too much? i know the christcucks are here to stay but it feels like something is steering this racial conscious youth as you said to some form of woke nazism, like a last ditch effort to stop them going all the way

>>509500469
what i'm saying is that the big man spoke to his fellow people in person about their grievances and exposed who was responsible for them. He worked with the common man. Not some schizophrenic wannabe revolutionaries that shoot up landmarks

>>509501002
why not both? its not like reading one book stops you reading a second

Fame of a Dead Man's Deeds by Robert Griffin is a great biography of Pierce and well worth reading

>>509501174
i'm trying to portray the thought process of the normies when they hear about these books. What premise sounds more interesting, what sentence would get you to buy a book? "The ideological foundation of national socialism" or "some old guy's race war fantasy"

>>509501002
Turner diaries 100%. The average person isn't interested in philosophy or ideology. However they do see the animals filling up their countries and destroying everything. Show them the path to salvation and more than a few will take it, especially as things get worse.

>>509497936 (OP)
Glownigger that is a blasphemer of Jesus Christ

>>509499724
the books are extremely vile. would not win anyone over

>>509501550
i don't think you realize how the average normie thinks. They see the world getting worse, they can feel it, but they don't understand why, so they turn their attention to politics, politics tries to get them away from in group preference at any cost. Unless they see infinity niggers chimping out in public, it's highly likely they won't see sense. And even if they do notice, they're much more likely to assume it's the symptom of society at large getting worse, rather than some groups behaving the way they are naturally inclined to behave

Speaking of pierce, i heard a theory thrown around a bit that he could have had something to do with rockwell's death. His bodyguard said so i think, and there was an argument between them and some other guy/guys a day prior or something like that? Does anyone know about this?

>>509501670
The turner diaries was optimistic, but not inaccurate especially considering when portraying his belief that the only way through change was mass suffering, and his portrayal of the animal tendencies of niggers. Hunter shows the history of the jew and what it has done to us and how most whites have been turned into sheep.

>>509501111
Nigga Heil Hitler acts as a destigmatizer. In a perfect world, it is way too far. But we are not afforded the luxury of perfect circumstances. The number one goal right now, before even thinking about how to implement policy, is to destigmatize NatSoc ideology and deboonk the Holocaust. Debunking the Holocaust removes the moral authority from Jews. It takes away their victimization narrative that allows them to have their international safe haven ethnostate fully funded by the "perpetrators" as a form of endless reparations.

>>509499086
>pay attention to echos of the past
except it's permanently cemented as one of the absolute basics of composition
if you knew anything

>>509497936 (OP)
>No one else has come close to replicating his success.
What success? His organization imploded after he did and his own son repudiated him. Meanwhile the US is still firmly under jewish control and less White than ever. The only success he had was making money for himself and whatever Hungarian mail order bride he had that day

>>509502044
the holocaust debunks itself and picrel
it's a waste of time
holocaust believers need to see their family come to shreds at the state that they think loves them before asking questions like who was eichmann, what is israel etc

>>509497936 (OP)
Nu-pol would hate this guy as he had solidarity with the Palestinians.

>>509502172
*after he died

>>509501744
But they are noticing, the censorship has had almost the opposite effect. Whites are exceptional at pattern recognition, and even normies know when the media doesn't announce who committed what crime that it was automatically a non-white. The balkanization is happening in real time, and frankly I wouldn't bet on whites losing.

>>509497936 (OP)
Pierce was doing the absolute bare minimum, and everyone who came after him is just a pale worm wriggling on his carcass. Look no further than the NJP, whose only claim to legitimacy came from some literal-who NA members, and all their manifest failure to accomplish anything besides driving the final nail in the coffin of White solidarity in America.

>>509502230
>it's a waste of time
It most certainly is not. The yoof are already starting to question the full veracity of the Holocaust narrative. This is objectively a good thing and anybody counter-signaling it is most assuredly one of those purity spiraling schizos that we were talking about earlier.

>>509497936 (OP)
>>brilliant man
Definitely high IQ. Physics professor.

I was disappointed that he accepted the official narrative on 9/11. He took the same line as the shitlibs: That it was carried out by righteous muzzies and was well-deserved blowback for our support of Israel. When in fact it was an Israeli & Deep State false-flag operation. He should have picked up on that immediately.

>>509499361
Rockwell was probably sincere. Still, why the hell did he allow a jewish pederast (Frank Collin) to be his right-hand man?

>>509499668
>>509499361
Anyone who walks around in nazi uniforms is a fed. Possibly a peado as well.

>>509502943
because he was too much of a lolbertarian. Listen to his UCLA speech. he said the jews should have a right to be at the top as long as they do not abuse their power to silence others. He wanted global order via an UN like organization a "nazi type" organization to paraphrase him

>>509501855
Not heard that, but if he did then good for him. Rockwell brought ridicule on Nationalism.

>>509497936 (OP)
The greatest American to ever live

>>509497936 (OP)
>divorced multiple times
>died in a trailer like deadbeat white trash
>hard drive filled with porn
>his own son renounced him
>the only thing left is his gay book the white power version of a jap high school isekai novel

>>509497936 (OP)
Pierce was brilliant, but his ideas aren't going to work in implementation because people have been folded, from birth, into the jewish system. You are never going to vote White Ethnonationalism into office. It is impossible. Voting itself is part of the problem.

The only solution for Whites is to form a parallel society with their own religion that has no Abrahamic influence. Then have lots of babies.

"The West" is not salvageable and you shouldn't even try. However parallel societies have proven throughout history to be nearly impervious to political or demographic change.

>>509503367
No, that would be Andrew Jackson. The guy who nearly beat to death his own assassin

>>509503418
memefag opinion go back to flooding the board with nigger porn you piece of trash.

>>509503223
How can one be a libertarian AND a globalist?

>>509503641
Pierce wasn't really a democrat, he always advocated for white revolution by putting competent people into positions of power and eventually overthrow the system. The National Alliance was impressive in the late 90's because they boasted so many middle class and educated professionals in their members, doctors, lawyers, etc, which is what Pierce was primarily focusing on. Of course he ran the record label with white power music to catch white youth and finance their operations but his main focus was educated people who could make an impact on their community, etc.

>>509503735
all facts cry about it mutt you will never have a proper nationalist org because you are all mentally ill cowboy brained mutts with no real communities worth saving.

>>509503758
i don't know man. The "jews should be able to rise to the top" paraphrased quote is from his ucla speech in 1967, here's the globalism clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI1Iu7C8t5o

>>509503856
You're the color of shit. You don't get to speak on who is and who is not human.

>>509497936 (OP)
>literally who nothingburger failed politician
>writes a book fantasising about nuking his own country
>never acted on his violent fantasy
>dies 23 years ago
What’s this board’s obsession with the guy again?

>>509497936 (OP)
T*rner diaries is slop, he's a pretty bad writer. Great speaker though

>>509504377

nuking traitors*

>>509501670
History and war is vile. That's just how it is. There wouldn't be a peaceful creation of the white ethnostate you guys so desperately want. At least Hunter and Turner diaries are honest in that.

>>509503641
>However parallel societies have proven throughout history to be nearly impervious to political or demographic change.
I know this board hates niggers, but the Nation of Islam has created a parallel society of drug-free blacks who can hold down a job and form stable families. The bodyguard group Fruit of Islam was impenetrable to the FBI and even the CIA was impressed by their discipline and toughness.

>>509504876
>I know this board hates niggers, but the Nation of Islam has created a parallel society of drug-free blacks who can hold down a job and form stable families. The bodyguard group Fruit of Islam was impenetrable to the FBI and even the CIA was impressed by their discipline and toughness.
nigger larp a nigger that doesn't do drugs and has a job? literally impossible.

>>509503910
Thanks

>>509498498
he was a cultists. and a coward.
he wrote about what others should do.
while he took a nap in his trailer.

>>509497936 (OP)
He was an incredible man.
LISTEN TO HIS PODCASTS!
https://archive.org/details/william-pierce-the-power-of-truth-volume-one/01+-+How+It+Fits+Together.mp3

>>509505476
Wow

>>509507364
there's around 12 folders like that one.
just change the number in the URL.
enjoy!

>>509504876
It's just a strategy that works. There are minority communities in the Middle East that should have been wiped out by Islam but have survived centuries because of their exclusionary behavior. The idea in implementation here woul dbe take over a town or a county and basically make it impossible for those without your values to move there.

>>509501054
>just play the jewish game of making yourself weak, that will endear you to niggers and they'll vote for you and the jews won't block the election I swear
Fuck you jewnigger, I am French, I know the history of the FN, dédiabolisation has never worked and never will. Terrorism works, why do you think no one can say Heil Hitler or deny the holobunga publicly? If 1 schizo every week shot up a bunch of jews, our countries would be free of that vermin in a few months.

>>509508050
That was literally the message of the turner diaries.

>>509503641
>parallel societies
That's just retarded coward speak. Our very countries were "parallel societies". No matter what Aryans build, NIGGERS, SPICS, JEWS, JEETS and BROWNS will invade it because they are filthy parasites. "Oh but we'll just shoot them then" then why don't you do that already if you know it's the solution? Fuck living in fear and fleeing, I want this entire planet ethnically cleansed of every single subhuman to the last, starting with the jews and gypsies.

>>509508182
Based

>>509508050
> If 1 schizo every week shot up a bunch of jews, our countries would be free of that vermin in a few months.

>>509498498
Schizo? Mathews was a hero who just wanted to be left alone, radicalised by corruption. I suppose he should have just sat down and took it like a bitch, like you. And god forbid we have positive media to consume instead of Jewish filth just because they don't like it.

>>509501054
Hey there's this ancient european fable by Aesop (I'm sure you've heard of him) called "the wolf and the lamb".
You might want to read it!
The moral is get this.... tyrants do not need an excuse.
You might want to think about that for a bit.

>>509503718
This, God bless Mr. Jackson
Remember when he led a mutiny of moolies on a French ship in nawlins?

Genes > Memes
We are Rome, they are judea.

>>509504876
Wow its almost like ZOG doesn't bother with them or something?
Like when the police just kneeled and let BLM niggers burn down the country and murder white people a few years back.
They face 0 state opposition.

>>509508050
>Terrorism works
NO NO NO IT TOTALLY DOESNT
Not like Trump just cucked out on deportations after all the rioting recently.
Or how israel got founded.
etc.

>>509500391
Bad jacketing is hilarious.
Even if the accusations were true the best way to bury someone like that is just to ignore them.
Really odd how the people using fedscare tactics always signal boost the fuck out of people they are slandering.

>>509509495
Look at the confidence in this post. Clearly you have an interest in ignoring the phenomenon of entryism.

There are painfully obvious patterns in the history of neo-nazi controlled opposition figures and GLR checks every box.

Not to mention, the modus operandi of military spooks dates back all the way to ancient Phoenicia.

>>509507887
Globohomo wouldn't allow it. Look what happened to David Koresh, Randy Weaver and the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho.

>>509509667
>neo-nazi controlled opposition figures
>military spooks
So you need just another sky daddy to tell you who hate and who praise?
>just another lukewarm follower
>>509508050

>>509497936 (OP)
I’m sure he was smart but he had no artistic sensibilities. There’s not a single sane person who would change their opinion based on the Turner Diaries, it’s a joyless and gross read. People like that should never be the face of a movement, let alone create literature and religions.

>>509509667
This. I question the agenda of anyone who simps for Rockwell. Strutting around in gay nazi uniforms and driving a "hate bus" kek

>>509510273
Notice how you jumped right on defending a cult of personality? I did.

>>509501002
Funny you say that, because I can tell tou never read mein kempf. Hitler specifically says in there that unless the jews are denouncing you, you are worthless.

>>509510443
> it’s a joyless and gross read
It's realistic, and yes it draws in and inspires the right people.

>>509510525
>defending a cult of personality?
I litelary told you to become lone wolf...the only thing they are afraid of

>>509510666
that's not my point

>>509501054
If they aren’t being justified to censor you, nothing you say is worth a damn. Go actually read mein kempf before you open your gypsy mouth again.

>>509497936 (OP)
My grandfather was friends with him and told me to go to west virginia and give (my grandfather's) name and he'd treat me "like gold". It was the 90s and I was in my early 20s and didn't give a shit, but nowadays I wished I had.

>>509497936 (OP)
What torch? What did he even do? He wrote a book where he basically demonized Whites making them villains that want to murder everyone on the planet for no reason, hence justifying Jewish oppression upon them at the start of a book.
Besides that he made some good motivational speeches, but there were no political impact that he made to change US politics in any way. At least David Duke was member in House of Representatives once, Pierce never climbed to be able to pass any law, making bunch of motivational speeches online and writing a book about how Whites want to genocide everyone didn't changed anything.

>>509499086
Only when jews will stop kvetching about the past "sufferings" of their people.
until then,
Heil Hitler

>>509510915
He didn't make whites villains, he simply understood that throughout all of history any time a white civilization prospered it was eventually inundated with subhumans until it collapsed. He understood that the only way to win the great evolutionary game is the extermination of all non-whites. Cause ya see retard, the non whites understand this, that's why the only thing in their tiny little soulless minds is destroying whites, and everything white.

>>509497936 (OP)
I stumbled upon this lecture recently. The start is a great primer on WW2 propaganda and how it's exploited today.

>>509511155
Forgot the link.

https://odysee.com/@louismarschalko:2/Dr-William-L-Pierce---The-women-of-Monte-Cassino:b

>>509504430
The point of the book is to inspire rebellion against ZOG, not to be the most well written book.

>>509511127
This. The only thing that can prevent race-mixing/death of the purity of the Aryan race over centuries is the physical impossibility of it, historically through geographic isolation. In this connected world with technology, our only option is to kill every single non-Aryan. We have countless proofs of Aryans living in China, most of Asia, America, New Zealand, Egypt... And they systematically disappeared due to the subhumans numbers.

Aryans are the only complete human beings, japs get close to it, everything else is subhuman filth. We need an ethno-planet, I genuinely do not care nor have any compassion for subhumans, whatever we do to them is justified at this point, we lost hundreds of millions of Aryans to their evil hordes, our wrath is entirely justified no matter what. They must all die. We will never again have a high-trust society or innocence as long as they live.

>>509497936 (OP)
>brilliant man
*self asserted
>started early
He was a toddler reading Superman when the Silver Legion and German American Bund were stetting the stage
>took over the torch after the fed/larper rockwell was shot
Pierce never disavowed Rockwell.
>dedicated his whole life to the cause for almost half a century
Schizophrenic nigger hobos panhandle on the same spot for half a century too, longevity =/ righteousness
>perseveres even though it costs him his decent job and his family, lose whole social network
>starting making almost no money again at 30 years old
>perseveres
See above
>avoids pitfall of allowing tattooed freaks, sad people who dress in nazi uniforms and KKK robes to join, edgefags who just want to be violent, since they aren't productive
Flat out wrong, you’ve never actually met a NA member
>argues to replace Christianity with his own religion, because he thinks it's cucked
If adoption of foreign religions is cucked, the Romans were cucks for adopting Greek, Egyptian and Persian gods. I think after 2000 years, Jesus is honorary.
>invests in alternative forms of propaganda (radio broadcasts, music, video games, comic books, literature)
Anyone can make art for anything. There are vegan punk bands, transgender video games, Christian comic books, ect.
>use groups funds to invest in stocks, buy significant shares in companies and try to affect their policies
Every political group does this, it’s called lobbying, and you have to have numbers to make it work
>early adopter of internet for maximum effect
So did furries and trekkies.
>movement is the biggest it's ever been
After he’s dead and the most popular self labeled NatSoc rn is Kanye Fucking West
>biggest of its type in the history of the states to this day
Can say the same thing about communism, veganism, objectivism, ect. The internet means there’s more people hearing about neiche ideologies than ever before, but actual IRL action isn’t about gross numbers but net impact.

>>509510678
Realistic in terms of how an absolute sociopath would in that scenario, there’s nothing humanizing there for people who don’t already somewhat agree with it. No it didn’t work at drawing the right crowd, like him or not there’s a reason Jared Taylor said that the difference between racially aware men now and in the late 20th century is that men now are not complete freaks

>>509510443
Sounds like the way shitlibs and jews describe Mein Kampf. Shut up pussy. Turner Diaries is no more extreme than anything you can find in Call of Duty campaigns played by 12 year old children.

>>509511513
You don't humanize the enemy, you kill them. Stop being such a faggot.

>>509512142
This.

>>509511860
Mein Kampf is intended as a political diatribe rather than a novel so somewhat stilted prose is expected, also the language barrier makes it hard to judge. It's not bad conceptually but it is very dry and matter of fact. It's meant to be a compilation of edited memoirs so that is intended but it just didn't work well. I've heard Hunter is much better but never read it.

>>509497936 (OP)
Why would the FBI feel the need to shoot and kill a fed larger? Are you retarded? Rockwell was legit.

>>509512142
>>509512236
Libtards are addicted to social signaling in given the prevailing insistence that faggy empathy and caring about "human life" is the most important thing, unless its a fetus of course, it's always funny to point out that you don't have to dehumanize your enemy to kill them because you don't value human life in the first place. Really twists their metaphorical nipples.

daily reminder
the movement doesn't represent lemmings, isn't comprised of lemmings and doesn't have to care about lemmings
the movement cares about things it can change and influence
lemmings can't be argued with or persuaded, unless forced to by the state
Turner diaries isn't for lemmings, it should not be even shown to them, much less expected to be understood by lemmings
also, remember Waco

>>509497936 (OP)
>published years' worth of podcasts (American Dissident Voices, available online) discussing current events from a white perspective--real history lessons
WLP was our most notable prophet since Hitler and has my highest respect for his integrity and my admiration for his considerable abilities to 1) see thru the jewish veils of occlusion and 2) clearly communicate his noticings

>>509499724
>Those books helped transfer his ideas in a palatable fashion to younger generations
You're fucking delusional or retarded

>>509511188
I hate the jews even more than 10 minutes ago. It's always shocking how much the jews unleashed hordes of subhumans to rape and kill thousands of civilians in both world wars, and it's NEVER talked about anywhere, not in schools, not in films, nowhere. TKD, TKD, TKD, TND, and TKD.

>>509512895
>his considerable abilities to 1) see thru the jewish veils of occlusion
As I pointed out above, he failed to see through the lies of the official 9/11 story. He swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. He just said we deserved it (which was also the leftist take on it).

>>509512381
I think Rockwell was probably sincere. But he was also a bit of a fool: dressing in Nazi uniforms, letting a jewish pederast be his assistant, etc.