Thread 509521168

Purity obsession is killing the family.

A lot of young men today are obsessed with finding a woman with “no past,” as if that alone makes a wife fit for marriage. They call this traditionalism, but it is really just defeatism. No civilisation survives without families, and yet this mindset turns men bitter and isolated, afraid of building anything real. People have pasts. That is life. What matters is whether they are willing to build something lasting with you. Women are not enemies; they are necessary partners in the survival of your culture.

If you actually care about saving civilisation, stop chasing perfection and start building families. Strength comes from commitment, forgiveness and responsibility, not purity tests. The future will not be won by the ones who sit around judging others. It will be built by the ones who get up, commit and raise the next generation.

One must marry a girl without inquiring whether she has engaged in sexual activity before or not.
If one says, “I would rather die than marry a whore,” that sentiment aligns with the concept of eugenics.
An incel has no right to reproduce, as incel genetics would be passed on.
Only Chads and Stacys are deemed worthy of being born.
Incel misogynists deserve to die alone, without offspring.

>>509521168 (OP)
I love girls with messed up teeth

npnd

It's that simple

>>509521168 (OP)
And? I'm not going to date a girl who fucked 100 other people. That's not reasonable.

>>509521168 (OP)
Men don't actually care about a woman's past.

Only incels do, and they don't count because they were never part of the debate, they will die alone and bitter.

>>509521168 (OP)
>just get divorce raped for le civilization

>>509521168 (OP)
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/%22Purity%20obsession%22/type/op/
memeflag spamming nigger

>>509521168 (OP)
>People have pasts. That is life.
kek. your grandmother's past was nothing like yours, roastie.

>>509521168 (OP)
I don't care about a woman's past. I AM THE ONE WHO CREATES PASTS FOR WOMEN WHICH OTHER MEN WILL NOT CARE FOR

>>509521461
I’m not sure you understand this, but men with opinions are the only men women want because they don’t want them.

>>509521168 (OP)
Sluts are entertainment only.
Fuck and forget.

>>509521168 (OP)
1pbtid

>>509521168 (OP)
lol get fucked whore(not by me)

>>509521461
post claws

>>509521168 (OP)
Why is this (yet another) issue that men must solve on their own? Why isn't this a coming together of the sexes for a better outcome for all humanity?

It's absurd to let one sex (women) run rampant with unbridled freedom and then call out the men for having the "gall" to have an opinion on their behaviors.

Imagine if most men were a serial gambler, alcoholic, or drug user. And when women asked "god, can I just find a man who isn't one of these?" and men said "sorry, deal with it, get over it and move on stop having a problem with our past". It would be ludicrous. But when women do it?

>>509521599
I understand this because I am woman, retard. I've never witnessed a decent man bring up my past or body count as an issue, that only happens in the internet where losers like you thrive.

>>509521168 (OP)
Forgiveness doesn't give whores access to me. It means I won't kill them for their crimes.

>>509521717
post turkey neck

>>509521717
>I'm a woman
Lol, no

>>509521354
>>509521427
>>509521434
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>>509521465

Repost. Its spam. "Go wife up a bunch of whores, pol"

>>509521486
Thank you

>>509521717
First off, YWNBAW.
Secondly, every guy whos ghosted you has done it without having to tell you to your masculine face.

>>509521461
High value men most certainly do care that's cope. It's the reddit chungus simps that don't care

>>509521168 (OP)
not paying full price for used when some loser got it new for free, simple as. it's not even about me anymore, too late for me, it's about convincing young women their wine aunts were wrong

>>509521168 (OP)
>Purity obsession is killing the family.
No fault divorce and alimony are killing family.
Women are literally paid by government (with men's money) to divorce.
If you look at this from the point of view of the rational economic agent then it's rational to divorce rape husband. And we're live under market economy that assumes that people are mostly rational economic agents.

>>509521461
>Men don't actually care about a woman's past.

...Ok troony..lol.

>>509521987
This. Same as any secondhand market, things that are in better condition are worth more with BNIB being top.

Would you rather buy a used car that was a rental fleet with 30,000 miles from god knows how many people who mistreated it, or a granny find single owner that was taken care of meticulously?

Same with tattoos, do people find cars riddled with bumper stickers worth more or less than stock?

I grew up in a very strict christian environment and went to private christian schools/homeschool groups for the majority of my education.

Almost every girl I grew up with was sexually active by 16, and most of my close friends already had body counts by that time as well. Several girls in my class lost their virginity between 12 and 14 years old. I can count on one hand the number of girls I knew who were not obese/mentally ill who were still virgins after 16 (btw, most of them were upset about this fact despite coming from extremely religious hardcore conservative christian families). One of my close female friends admitted to me that she had slept with 9 people by the time she was 18, including some women as well.

Good girls dont exist except under duress. Jesus even says that thinking about committing a sin is a sin, so...

>>509521776
one of the few threads repeating to redpill the men on here

>>509521168 (OP)
>If you actually care about saving civilisation
whose civilization are we caring about here?

>>509521168 (OP)
The purity /innocence only exist in child under 10-12yo (and depends on how, more younger).

>>509521710
>Imagine if most men were a serial gambler, alcoholic, or drug user. And when women asked "god, can I just find a man who isn't one of these?" and men said "sorry, deal with it, get over it and move on stop having a problem with our past". It would be ludicrous.

The answer is too long. I would just say "then GTFO, bitch"

You should see how people throw tantrums about tattoos on 4chan when everyone and their mom has one they got on vacation kek

>>509522921
that's fair too. not like they are going to internalize anything you say anyhow. you're just mansplaining for the other men nearby.

>>509523046
i have gone from admiring suicide girls in the 2000s to audibly sighing in public when i see a cute girl with a tat

>>509521168 (OP)
>If you want to make civilization better lose your assets to a white
How does this help society?

>>509521168 (OP)
No hymen. No diamond. No exceptions.

>>509523046
>their mom
I called her a stupid cunt and kicked her out of my house, lmfao

>>509523916
whites getting more resources instead of niggers?

>>509524024
>White man marries a whore
>She takes all his assets
>Takes those assets to new boyfriend who could be any flavor of retard
>Somehow this means white people get more resources
I see.

>>509521168 (OP)
>Build a family with a whore that indulged in the degeneracy and saw no problem with it

No

>>509521168 (OP)
If men care about a woman’s past then maybe don’t let a hundred guys run through you? I’m a guy who thinks about sex all the time and yet I can control myself. We know for a fact that women hate sex and use it as a means to evaluate their self-worth among men. So stop being a dumb whore who needs her ego fed with a cock on a daily basis.

>>509521168 (OP)
>Purity obsession is killing the family.
Fuck 'em - they're living in the past.
Low quality males don't reproduce - get used to it.

>>509521168 (OP)
The truth is women should be married off at 12-15 when they first become sexual. They're going to experiment with sex anyway so it might as well be with their lifelong partner. They can be a whore after they have their children and they're out of the house. The man can choose to divorce too and go be a whore himself. But duty must be done first, and women only have a short fertility window.

>>509521168 (OP)
My grandfather would have beaten you for suggesting he marry a whore.

>>509521717
>a decent man doesn't inquire about my post whore-ery

I don't think you're a very good purveyor of what constitutes a "decent" man at all then.
You're just fucking with SIMPs that don't 'harsh your vibe', whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.

The internet has just given a platform to real men like myself and others who voice both our subjective & objective criticisms on situations like this.

>>509521168 (OP)
Without even focusing on the discussion of inherent benefits of purity you have some major holes.

Firstly anyone with an inkling of intelligence knows and understands that past behavior is the greatest predictor for future behavior.
So if a woman has had a history of sleeping around and having lots of relationships, the indicators for her behavior for a long-term monogamous relationship is long.
Second is an extremely large topic that is society existentially apocalyptic.
Families effectively don't hardly exist anymore.
With women's suffrage and no fault divorce there is absolutely zero guarantee of a family actually surviving.
People and explicitly women aren't interested in being husbands and wives anymore, just long-term girlfriends and boyfriends that they can end with a court meeting.

So to summarize what you are effectively doing is advocating for example that will most likely result in a broken family we're the man will have state enforced lesser control over his offspring.
Children from this dysfunctional broken family statistically also will be less functional adults and more likely to fall into this behavior.

Also any concept that women choose for eugenic properties in their mates and that the offspring from this female choice is better for it is completely divorced from reality.
That kind of insinuation in and of itself implies a certain level of complete disingenuousness and misanthropy.
To summarize logically people should have families and reproduce, explicitly White people.
Past behavior is important, because it illuminates future behavior.
But families cannot coexist with no fault divorce and women's suffrage, only broken families and dysfunctional offspring.

>>509524342
>Low quality males don't reproduce
Anon they imported millions of low quality humans to make up for the low quality males not reproducing. We need workers for all the bullshit jobs and they don't have to be high value people. There already was a caste system just with all whites that we could actually care about and actually acted sort of like us. We need these people as our working class, we must breed them again. We have to institute a system where it's easy for them to breed (assigning pure teenage wives).

>>509521717
>I've never witnessed a decent man bring up my past or body count as an issue
And you've probably have or had a decent man want to settle down with you in a long-term relationship.

My dick is big enough that its almost always going to be bigger than anyone in her past, and technically and practically shes a virgin as far as my dick is concerned.

Only acceptable body count for wife material is 0

>>509521168 (OP)
>If you actually care about saving civilisation
Well maybe I don't, and maybe a lot of other men don't. Civilization doesn't have an inherent right to exist.

>>509524619
>Anon they imported millions of low quality humans to make up for the low quality males not reproducing.

I'm talking about us - what they do is of little count.
We have to be better; physically, educationally, socially.
Your dream of being allotted a mate is just a dream - it is not going to happen.
Most genZ males have no game. You have to risk embarrassment, prove your worth, charm her, while progressing in your life.
OK so you're not 6,6,6 - you don't need to be - USA males are pretty short on average with Europeans anyway (as is your cock size - look it up)

>>509521168 (OP)
>marry the roastie
So, is this the new message from Eglin to get birthrates up?

>>509521168 (OP)
Wrong, welfare is killing birth rates. Social welfare and public funded retirement remove incentive to have children. Anything else is cope, including banning porn, fucking older/younger/virgins/established/dating online/in person/taxing single women, etc etc

>>509521168 (OP)
This came at such a pivotal time for me.
Been meeting up with a girl who ive known since i was a kid.
Shes very attractive and were both 28, didnt talk about sexual stuff yet but shes been to student exchange programs which are fuckfests. I on the other hand have had 2 women in my whole life, a gf and an on off fling. Which i guess KINDA offsets her whatever she was doing but not entirely its a whole different thing to be fucked by 10 strangers + your ex bfs than your gf and a single fling. Obv i wanna breed but idk if im gonna grow to resent her and microchimerism is a real concern for me too. What do you guys think? She has no tatts or piercings, even her ears but shes way too fun and bro coded to not have had a lot of experience with men(and thus picked up from them) so im really conflicted...
Maybe just impregnate her but mak3 sure to never love her? Stay on my toes keep her around until i make life changing money?

>>509521168 (OP)
Chad obsession in women combined with easy abortion and birth control is killing reproduction in all post industrial societies. They probably could find humble men willing to take them but one night with Chad and they can't stand to be near a lesser man.

>>509521168 (OP)
women are the problem
stop blaming men for your selfishness and poor decisions
that is all

>>509521354
>I love girls with messed up teeth
weeb detected

>>509525838
and most men dont have capacity to love whores, so everybody just hates each other

>>509525270
>We have to be better
By women's standards? Women only go for tall retarded alcoholics. The world shouldn't be men dancing to impress women, we'll become a peacock like species with unnecessary traits like excessive height and excessively long dicks to the point it hinders our ability to move and fight. I prefer a society where women are forced to dance and depend of men for their survival. We should develop our strength traits and rape them instead. The white man was forged on this system, not your nigger mating dance system. That creates niggers.

>>509525820
I'd rather die than marry a whore like that.

it's gotten so bad, i'd prefer a girl who never went to college and doesn't have a job. i can cover for that

>>509521168 (OP)
Fuck that. If she’s not a virgin, no kid. Burn in hell alone roastie. Your genes will end here.

>>509526701
>Women only go for tall retarded alcoholics. The world shouldn't be men dancing to impress women, we'll become a peacock like species with unnecessary traits like excessive height and excessively long dicks.

Hey friend - so you're a tiny dicked short king. That must suck. Oh well, don't worry we'll keep the DNA spinning assuring the strong genes get passed on.

Not everyone gets to mate and breed - it has always been this way.

Selection necessitates choice - which you can't dictate.

p.s. said as a father of 2 healthy, happy European kids - in Europe (where we belong)

>>509521168 (OP)
that's a lot of words to just say
>you can't hold out for virgins bros, they don't exist

>>509527171
It's the father's fault really for raising a whore, his genes shall not continue.

>>509527400
You just said in your previous post that you think 6" is considered big. Don't talk to me about small dicks, Pierre.

>>509521168 (OP)
>An incel has no right to reproduce, as incel genetics would be passed on.
so why does a whore have a right to reproduce?

>>509521717
>I've never witnessed a decent man bring up my past
but did any of them marry you?

>>509521168 (OP)
American suburbs are a big hinderance to just letting go

>>509522475
maybe youre right. thats a bold statement but humans do like to fornicate

>>509527478
>You just said in your previous post that you think 6" is considered big. Don't talk to me about small dicks, Pierre.

I never said that - I said that, the 6,6,6 is a 'desire' by women, men, who knows?

Actually I'm a 5'9" Irish with a 7" cock.
I have no worries m8

>>509521168 (OP)
Women has their chance to prove that they could be responsible for controlling mating strategies. They failed miserably and now they regret it. Tough shit

>>509527478
> you think 6" is considered big

Actually it's 7.2" - but who's counting - anyway, I'm the dad of 2 wonderful, bright, happy European kids - It feels good.
I hope you get to experience it too, genuinely.
Get out there and carry on our legacy.

Bed time now - late here and it's too hot.

I fathered only 4 white kids and i'm sad I didn't fathered 8. Nokids can hang in the next tree alongside browns for all I care.

>>509528764
>I fathered only 4 white kids

Good man - i think i'm up to about 7?
2 French, 1 UK and the rest SE Asia.

It's all that really matters

>>509524431
>POV
>It's not from a POV