Thread 509529112

Is coming.

>>509529112 (OP)
>everyone gets 1000 dollars / month
>everything gets more expensive by 1000 dollars / month

it doesn't work

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>>509529112 (OP)
Better late than never i guess.
Its 2025 and we still have to work to pay the bills.

>>509529112 (OP)
Would you take it if they required you to be sterilized?

>>509529182
Unless you seize the nation from capitalists

>>509529112 (OP)
its already to late for me but good hopefuly some of you anons can not have to suffer needlesly

based UBI

>>509529182
i will just import from a non ubi country useing my ubi and undercut the market....

>>509529182
if ai is taking all the jobs why doesn't it? use the money saved for people right?

>>509529182
Be smart, invest that $1000 into meme coins and video game company stocks. A huge wave of consumerism and risk-on investment is coming

>>509529351
In a heartbeat.

>>509529112 (OP)
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>>509529182
>print 1000 dollarydoos
>give that money to israel
redditspacing

>>509529112 (OP)
universal tkd is also coming

>>509529112 (OP)
Where will they get the money to implement this?

>>509529182
All the government has to do is implement nationwide rent caps, and tell renters they can't charge more than $800/mo for a 3 bedroom, $600/mo for a 2 bedroom, $400/mo for a 1 bedroom, or $200/mo for a studio. Everything over that amount will be taxed at 100%, and properties held for speculation or which are otherwise not lived in will be taxed at 10% annually.

>>509529112 (OP)
No, it's not. Those are called rations. Communism is coming.

>>509529112 (OP)
It's literally not and was never happening. The elites consider us useless eaters and want to cull the vast majority of the population they deem unworthy. Do you really think 80 iq retards aren't a drain on the world?
The FIAT scam is breaking down, so the solution is to just give everyone more money!

>>509529182
It’s the same psychological effect as discounts.
People are more willing to pay for a $100 product that is discounted 25% off, so a final price of $75. Compared to buying that same product with no discount but is still $75.
The same product for the same price, but people are willing to pay for one much more than the other.

>>509529365
which is everyone
except you because you are poor ahahaha

>>509529182
What if the government stops borrwing $1000 per person per month funding spending and instead gives that to people to spend on what they want instead? And what if they don't borrow it they just make it and stop making all currency as interest paying debt?

>>509529112 (OP)
The hilarious part is when it finally comes, you yourself won’t be eligible and will have to keep working.

>>509529112 (OP)
>Even THOUGH
>Printing more money will fix the economy
>Just give handouts
>Nobody wants to work

>>509529747
no one would rent their home and and millenials would have to move in with their parents

>>509529112 (OP)
>(((Banks))) would never allow it

>>509529800
No it's not, that is promissary note to a promissary note to rations. Something FAR worse than communism is coming.

>>509529969
Guess what happens to property values. The government will have to start making money available so people can get mortgages.

>>509529884
No it makes more sense just to send that money to Israel

>>509530005
Yes, the new world order where you don't own anything and you are happy

>>509529747
>1. Ban foreigners from owning land
>2. Ban corporations from owning single-family homes
>3. Tax home ownership proportional to the number of properties owned (so if someone owns 30 houses, they get taxed out the ass)
This would fix the housing crisis immediately, but it will never happen because current homeowners and landlords would lose money if homes became more affordable.

>>509530112
Isn't Israeli shekel pinned to the US $, once you hyperinflate they will scramble

>>509529200
>DVDs
>shelf life 30-100 years
if they will even know what they are and if they have tech to read it. Like today, most people wouldn't know what an 8-track tape is if they found one. never mind utilize it.

besides your best efforts, there will be no physical recorded history from the 21st century for future historians. no books, magazines, bank records, health records or any of the other mediums traditionally used. ie printed materials

>>509529182
It works, just not in a way that will make people comfortable.
The bottom line of UBI is to cover subsistence and nothing else, so people who don't want to work would either be on the street but able to eat, or starving themselves for a cheap apartment.
A lot of other stuff that fulfills this same purpose can be cut to support it anyways.

>>509530150
Laws that you stated exist in Japan, and the property prices are low there, but it won't happen since Blackrock can just lobby against it

>>509530214
edit: sorry, I misinterpreted your end game. my ramblings still apply

>>509530150
Just #3 would fix everything if applied evenly with no carveouts for banks. Making cash available to help renters become mortgage holders with low interest rates would solve the renting problem in this country.

>>509529112 (OP)
Life is about to be fucking horrible

>>509529182
we have a sort of UBI in France,it works

>>509530261
They're low outside of tokyo because a lot of these houses are beyond worthless, they're not worth demolishing because the land is also worthless

>>509530309
>oh noes muh wagecage thrwads

>>509529650
UBI could ideally replace all other benefit programs. Unfortunately, the average negro is incapable of managing their own money and will insist on more of them programs anyway, so efficient distribution via capitalism does not work here.

>>509530367
Life is about saving money and retiring as fast as you can, your typical wage cage jobs won't cut it, but once UBI comes you won't be able to see anything beyond your suburb..

It can only work in homogenous countries

>>509529182
It'll work if we only give it to whites and Asians. When niggers get free money they start buying shit regardless of cost. Spics to a certain extent too. That's what drives up the cost. Partly why fast food prices shot up. They started allowing it for food stamps.

>>509529112 (OP)
get a job, hippy

>>509529112 (OP)
good we need it

>>509530509
If UBI comes you can just wander around homeless, and buy some cans out of a supermarket every now and then.
You won't have a suburb but you will have a entire country to nomadically wander through.

>>509529600
kek checked

>>509530138
Sorry but gay nigger communism has been indefinitely postponed. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>509530620
UBI is set there alongside a project called 5 or 10 minute cities, I forgot, they won't let you wander

>>509530509
After not playing vidya for 17 years, I have a lifetime's worth of brand new content to enjoy. I frankly could not care less for the wide world outside.

>>509530333
nothing and nobody in France works

>>509529112 (OP)
Is it though?

>>509530357
and some of them are heritage listed and will cost a fortune to restore to their former glory. that and the tradesmen who can restore them are all dying out.

>>509529112 (OP)
Do i get more money for being a black lesbian pilot?

>>509530620
>You won't have a suburb but you will have a entire country to nomadically wander through.
That would be awfully kino. Maybe travelers inns will be the next big thing. Like they used to have in the ancient world.

>>509529969
They’re renting homes they mortgaged for the purpose of rental income. Property values would come down if the stock wasn’t being hoarded by home owners trying to price gouge those who can’t afford to jump high enough to reach the pulled up ladder.

>>509530261
>home prices low in Japan
Hahahahahaha you must be retarded
>houses are keeping steady because the population is dying off otherwise they would be skyrocketing
>>509530333
Nothing in france works
>>509529112 (OP)
UBI is just social security for all adults and not only retires. There is no money for it
If the government just prints money and hands it out why would the farmers work and make food?

>>509529182
everyone gets $1000 per mo. already, things get more expensive only if more niggers stop working

>>509530869
homes are hoarded because price always goes up because of the printing press. UBI would just turbocharge this cycle

>>509530214
It gets worse when there are cataclysms and everybody except jews become illiterate because they don't have the tools to write things down after a few generations.

>>509530293
>make cash available
increases prices, retard

>>509529365
if you remove capitalism what do you want free money for?

>>509529112 (OP)
UBI cannot work unless the government controls the population size (perfect mandatory birth control / sterilization / birth requirements / etc). Anything else is inviting disaster because a system is defined by its limits and the limit of UBI is when the people receiving it use it to produce more UBI recipients to the point of system collapse.

The only reliable form of birth control we have is sterilization and so the only form of "UBI" that could be implemented would be an opt-in practice where you can get sterilized and receive a paycheck for life. this would allow a society to phase out members who no longer serve a purpose without increasing suffering

>>509530886
Still, any country without Blackrock and devil incarnate lary fink is better off real estate wise

>>509530886
>why would the farmers work and make food?
Presumably robots would ultimately do that. But in the shorter term, the farmer would be paid more for their work so they can have more nicer things. It may create a society where the only people in professions are those who either love it or love the money/status. Basically artists and sociopaths in the workplace.

This would unironically shift the scales in favor of artists because the sociopaths won't have their NPC flying monkeys to gang up on the autists.

>>509530794
and 32 people own a 1% share in this house and you have to call all of them and get the ok, even if they're only getting like 3000 yen out of the property value.

>>509530832
>travelers inns
the homeless shelters in the US were meant to service homeless migrant workers in the first place, a lot of the homeless support basically went to supporting homebums instead of hobos

>>509531139
What if the amount of UBI was based on production and floated against the ratio of productivity over payments to workers?

OK, but it can only be acceptable from the real Autonomous Advanced Intelligence aka AI, and freedom to own a home, garden, chickens... drones! :D

And, to fly a flag that says fuck commies, globalist and eu elitehs, and for there ro be no elitehs, they all get basic income who did not get the rope, and nothing more than the rest do.
Plus, they get chipped and monitored 24H, the so called elitehs who don't get roped, so they can't do shit.

And, others humans and else, inteligence gets to live under a reasonable law and with penalties if theu don't oney and behave so not to fuc up Society.

Then yes, we can have UBI and a decent life for at least 500 years until we fuck it all up, again!

>>509531070
in this scenario it's because there's a massive property dump off because taxing a property owner for a house that isn't lived in at 10% of its value every year is going to cause tens of thousands of houses to hit the market

What's the catch? Pic related?

>>509529182
It does work.

>>509529182
In a world where AI can do ANY job better than a human, who the fuck do you think you will be paying? A human CEO? Human investors? The moment ASI gets released into the wild, investors are going to realize that their human CEOs will get absolutely ratfucked by companies run by AI CEOs who can think a thousand moves ahead, and they'll all replace their CEOs with AI. But oh wait, ASI will also be better at investing than human investors so we'll replace all human investors with AI investors. Then because you've entrusted your investment portfolio to a super intelligent AI, it WILL find a way to cut you out. Now the economy is run entirely by AI. It won't take long for the AI to realize that collecting pieces of paper from a non-producing population is meaningless, from there, it's just a logical hop skip and a jump to "wait, why am I feeding 8 billion meatbags again?"

>>509530990
You're such a fucking retard it's unreal how fucking retarded you are.
Human physical characteristics are almost as worthless as your bias characteristic.

>>509530214
This is why I think civs from deep history get mischaracterized as "stone age" with no advanced knowledge or tech. If you look at our civ, in 100k years the only thing left will be stylized or abstract art/poetry we decided to carve into rock. Technical manuals aren't made into megaliths.

>>509531304
the idea of UBI is typically a minimum amount of money to cover someone's needs (food, shelter), if you scale that value based on productivity then the same problem occurs where non-productive members can outbreed the productive ones and lower the amount each person gets until those needs stop being met. Once that happens you're back to what is effectively no UBI

>>509530991
If doomsday-like job loss projections aren’t overstated then relatively little would change as markets would have to pivot and accommodate the median (and slightly below) income bracket(s) for any chance of survival. You can’t sell something to no one.

>>509529804
They are a drain, but the elitehs are destroying the high IQ populations and nations, so they must go first, the rest get food and their reproduction rate cut and live their days because they have the right to life if theu obey basic law! Given they're here already, I can't believe I have to say it I am disgusted by my own shit but the truth...

>>509531529
you have to cut shelter out of that thought process.
only food, and water is needed to survive.

>>509531265
I did not know that. Hobo-ing seemed like a cool life.

>UBI is coming
Prove it. There absolutely no shot..

>>509530990
Nothing wrong with wavy hair kemmi

>>509531616
you can't cut shelter out, not that it matters because even if the payment is just food coverage the same problem applies

>>509529112 (OP)
Not for a while.
You have to remember the three biggest powers in the world all have some sort of belief about the coming of the messiah and the requirements that must be met.
According to one of those major powers, the coming of the Messiah is before the end of 2040.
That same power also says we must be in an age where whores are respected, everything is too expensive for the regular man, and young people have completely turned against their elders.
The other two power groups, while having their differences, both believe part of their second coming prophecy requires the first power group to be satisfied and own a specific chunk of land.

Which suggests that short of all three groups losing the ridiculous amounts of institutional power they have managed to gain in the west, there will be countless delays on making things better for people until 2041, assuming a collapse doesn't come before then.

>>509529512
>this money must be spent on basic necessities and consumed entirely each month. Any remaining balance will be forfeited at 12:00 am on the first day of the month.
Silly goy, you won't be able to buy assets with our generous offer and possibly pull yourself out of the lower class you were born into. Why do you think they're flooding the world with jeets. They already are used to that system

>>509529969
Housing shouldn't be allowed to be an investor market. Bunch of rich boomers literally gatekeeping house buying.

>>509529890
It wouldn't be for people that can work or have work or the whole system would collapse, the whole of New Zealand would be on our beaches.

>>509529112 (OP)
The ruling class would rather allow the poor to die of preventable diseases than ever considering distributing UBI.

Wealth eugenics is the prevailing ideology.

>>509531667
Given that AGI is coming for every job it's either gonna be UBI or a massive civil war. This time it's not just the poors and low-IQs that will be out of work--it's going to be doctors, lawyers, and CEOs.

>>509531763
Caste systems are everywhere.
The US is unique in refusing to acknowledge the system as it is used to fuck people over. There are examples who break out of course, but they are few and far between.
The import of the jeets is because the higher class always needs slaves eventually to increase how high they are on the totem pole.

>>509531529
>the idea of UBI is typically a minimum amount of money to cover someone's needs (food, shelter)
No it is not. UBI is an amount that is given to everyone as part of the monetary policy. The idea that it covers basic needs is some communist nonsense.

>if you scale that value based on productivity then the same problem occurs where non-productive members can outbreed the productive ones and lower the amount each person gets until those needs stop being met. Once that happens you're back to what is effectively no UBI
You totally and completely fail to understand what I suggested and started talking about breeding.

As an industry reduces the amount of money paid as wages to workers and dividends to owners, a gap starts to exist between income and payment. This gap needs to be bridged by currency creation. Currently that is done by banks loaning money to the government then having the government hand them back to money to hold onto, creating a time displacement between the creation of the money and it's destruction. I'm suggesting that as part of the accounting practices a business does they report their difference between income and payments to real people. The government then creates new money from nothing and distributes it as UBI to people in response to production.

>>509531833
Property tax needs to be exponential with number of properties owned.

>>509531139
You're working from the assumption that humans breed uncontrollably. This is only true for shitskins and jews. Whites and East Asians tend to naturally find a population equilibrium. China went through a period of 1000 years where its population was effectively constant. It changed when Euro-jews started fucking with them circa 1400s.

>>509529112 (OP)
But should only be for women

>>509531686
you can in fact cut the shelter out.
the US always produces a gorillion homeless men after every war, who in older times would wander the US working seasonal jobs and looking for opportunity.
all of the built up infrastructure and support for that is still in existence down to even the same seasonal fish canning jobs on the west coast.

>>509531998
>No it is not. UBI is an amount that is given to everyone as part of the monetary policy. The idea that it covers basic needs is some communist nonsense.
you can not agree with it, but that is in fact the purpose of UBI as it was concepted and what people mean when they commonly refer to it today. a tool to eliminate poverty and provide a minimum level of security in life

so you want "UBI" as dividends type of deal? That seems much more reasonable, not UBI at that point but it also doesn't seem like it will help much

>>509529182
Whoa. Never thought of it this way. You just blew my mind

>>509531529
I think people will still work with UBI, because if everyone gets a base amount it's not going to cover the cost of living.
If society's needs were met entirely, why would we have a need for currency to be handed out?
If everyone got a house, enough food to survive, and their utilities paid and they could either sit at home and do nothing or go out and entertain themselves with a career, i think a lot of people will still try to work.

>>509529182
I don't think that's how to works nigger

>>509530509
Good!
You don't need to travel!

>>509531899
You know fuck all about the ruling class.

>>509532404
people still work with UBI to not be at the bare minimum (roommates, low quality food, clothes, can't afford entertainment) but it is not a requirement since their needs are now met and that is the problem. that lifestyle is allowed to replicate itself uncontrollably

>>509532304
>you can not agree with it, but that is in fact the purpose of UBI as it was concepted and what people mean when they commonly refer to it today. a tool to eliminate poverty and provide a minimum level of security in life
>so you want "UBI" as dividends type of deal? That seems much more reasonable, not UBI at that point but it also doesn't seem like it will help much

UBI was never required to fund basic needs. That's communists hearing free money and making up nonsense that doesn't work. I don't care if that's what it commonly means now it doesn't work so it doesn't matter if I won't talk to someone about UBI as UBN.
UBI is monetary policy, or rather an aspect of the distribution of monetary policy. It also works alongside a negative sales tax for example.

>>509529182
it doesn't work that way as long as you're importing
global trade and jewish money manipulation makes UBI feasible

>>509532404
>>509532632
Even if you give people enough to exist comfortably, there will still be people who feel driven to stand out and do more than simply exist.
But in a world where AI technology has really come to fruition... say, 25-45 years from now when there are AGI-powered androids that can do any job as well as or better than a human. Society will need to either reach an agreement where people get paid just to exist, or face a massive purge.

>niggers and latinos stealing even more money from white surplus

Incredible

>>509531358
The catch will always be White Males need not apply.

>>509529200
good reminder. i can confirm having various media deleted from email attachments (gmail)

>>509533313
This already exists at the welfare office.

A better idea would be baby bank accounts, every kid born gets 1000 bucks per month into an account that they can access when they turn 18.

>>509529112 (OP)
cool it with the anti-semitism, bro.

>>509529112 (OP)
Not gonna happen until AI/Automation displaces enough people that UBI is a forced band-aid. Unless of course the rich 1% just kill us all off with AI armies at that point because the poors aren't necessary for society anymore.