Thread 509532595

$1000 invested in America marke will grow exponentially as they get old.

Australians did the same.

>>509532595 (OP)
Cheap cunt.
Elon would've gotten us 5k (and even that was paltry)

>>509532595 (OP)
how much is that in 18 years??

>>509532706
Likely nothing. Don't think there will be much left of jewsa in 18 years

>>509532595 (OP)
Isn't that just giving Wall Street public money by laundering it through children?

>>509532595 (OP)
huh? that's retarded.

>>509532706
Nothing. After the fees and great depression the kids will owe the banks money.

>>509532595 (OP)
I bought the sp 500 with my trust fund money and it is up 6x.

>>509532595 (OP)
sigh, printing money does not create wealth

how is it the left and mainstream right both fail so miserably to understand this basic fact?

>>509532951
it does move that wealth around so some idiot can be stuck holding the bag.

>>509532763
>>509532706
Assuming you add nothing else to it and you can retire it after 20 years, it is more or less 7000 to 8000.

But if it is a retirement account then it will grow way more as as you get close to retirement.

>>509532951
>sigh, printing money does not create wealth


So don't use it duh.

>>509532595 (OP)
How is this not a blatant capital injection for the 1 percent. This is literally stealing from taxpayers to give to corporations

>>509532706
Hard to say since it's indexed to the s&p
But had someone had that 18 years ago, it'd be worth 4500 today.

Plus, you can contribute up to 5k a year. So if you simply put in the max the first year (6k) your kid would have 19,000 today.

>>509532706
>>509533009
At the current rate of inflation, that will be just enough for a loaf of bread in 2045. Thanks Donald!

>>509532595 (OP)
Literally a scam to use taxpayer money to pump stocks held by kike billionaires.

>>509533092
What?
No corporations get any money

>>509532595 (OP)
yeah this aint gonna work

in 50 years we'll run out of social security and they'll say "hey, what if we dip into the investment funds for our children? there's a trillion dollars in there not being used right now" and they'll empty all the funds out

>>509533009
don't forget about inflation though
>40 trillion debt and rising
Lmao
Burger gov had to self pump their own index to avoid the market collapse and still the burger shekel is going down, over 10% already in 3 months and inflation is going up.

>>509532706
You cynical people know you CAN put more in and also that 6000 might be enough for community college if nothing else? Lots of simple businesses have been made on 1K but definitely make one with 6K. Down payment on a car.

>>509533092
It is
Only a retard won't see that plus also trying to keep the whole stock market up to cover up for the bullshit the tariff craze did. Why? Because why profit only from selling early and from the dip? Make goyim pay for it a third time and lie to them by saying that money will be worth anything in 18-20 years.

>>509532789
>Isn't that just giving Wall Street public money by laundering it through children?
CEO's everywhere praise Trump for injecting capital into their firms which will allow them larger compensation packages.

>>509532595 (OP)
>signs the 'BBB' bill
>'BBB' bill

>>509532706
>how much is that in 18 years??
It's fake you dumb nigger
Why is /pol/ so stupid?

>>509533210
It's not social security
It's a retirement fund like a 401k.
The bulk of the money are contributions, and it's all done into accounts.
Social security is literally just money the government promises you, it was never an account

>>509532595 (OP)
But all the children being born today are brown. That's not gonna work...

Holy fucking kino i literally neetmax off dividends post 08 from dumping everything into it
50000 iq move from blimpf
Remember if the index fails your retirement fun and other investments are dead too its legitimately the safest bet on earth its putting faith in burgerland holding together

>>509533344
This prevents the dems from taxing every stock transaction like they were trying to do, because it'll immediately hollow out every kids account

>>509533187
>use people's money to pump stocks to claim the market is actually going up despite everything going down so stock holders can sell their shit for some profit
Nigger this is downright stealing from the people and giving it to billionaires and market manipulation.

>>509532706
like $1500 lol plus inflation it will revert back to $1000 real dollars hahahah

>>509532595 (OP)
S&P 500 is the biggest asset bubble in the history of asset bubbles, possibly ever

Crazy to think my boomer father thought putting $200 in a jew bank that pays 0.01%apy 20 years ago would get me anything besides some fucking pennies.

This seems just as silly, probably just artificial gdp pump really. Even the best CD is 4% (which is despicable when you can get an online savings that makes 3.5%). The jews don't want your tiny ass money in their bank for 20 years. They want you to spend it and take credit.

>>509533465
It's literally not any of that.
Where are you getting this ridiculous idea

>>509533092
Corporations don't get that money. It's not bonds.

>>509532595 (OP)
>>509532706
>The legislation includes a new savings account for children with a one-time deposit of $1,000 from the federal government for those born in 2025 through 2028.
>Parents would then be able to contribute up to $5,000 a year and the balance will be invested in a diversified fund that tracks a U.S. stock index. Employers could also contribute up to $2,500 to an employee’s account and it wouldn’t be counted as income to the recipient.
>Earnings grow tax-deferred, and qualified withdrawals are taxed as long-term capital gains.

In 18 years it's fuck all (probably around 2000 from my quick guess)
However if your parents are wealthy enough to contribute to it yearly, it'll grow substantially, though you probably didn't need it in the first place then.
It basically ends up being a retirement account, except it guarantees that everyone born between Jan 1st, 2025 and Jan 1st, 2029 (assuming it doesn't get extended) will now be in favor of giving further benefits to people who game the Capital Gains Tax.
Which I think is the actual goal of this, since that means it'll become EXTREMELY unpopular in the US to go after rich people who game the system when a partial generation has their future wealth tied up in the same system.

>>509533210
See above.

>>509533534
Imagine if he was doing this just to leave generation beta as the bagholders for the biggest investors to pull out after a bump lmao

>just one more imaginary cash injection into the bubbling ponzi scheme goyim and it's gonna be managed by (((vanguard))) and (((blackrock))) so we can buy more stock and gain even greater voting shares with YOUR money.

People still dont realize kikes take eating the fish from other peoples plates as a directive?
>Put money into 401k
>Kikes use it to buy shares and voting power in shareholder meetings
>Despite this being your money somehow the kikes got the power out of it
>Thanks for letting us buy all your corpos with your money goyim, here have some change 50 years from now so u can survive til youre 90 in a care home
>Theyre now roping in people straight from birth
Oy fucking vey

>>509533655
It's gonna happen now too lol

>>509533237
Precisely investing in a safe index fund is the best way to fight inflation.

The irony is that the "socialist" countries that we love of Europe already do this. They invest the funds of retirement in American assets.

>>509532595 (OP)
>BBB
Sounds an awful lot like
build back better

>>509532595 (OP)
I'm going to dump on them.

>>509533719
I thought everyone knew he called it Big Beautiful Bill because he wants everyone to forget about Build Back Better.

>>509532789
Yes

>>509533719
>taxes are mandatory
>take more money from goyim, give them back a lot less
>give the remaining money to jews
MIGA in full effect, I hope America goes into an economic depression after tariffs, otherwise Americans will be literal corpo drone slaves until they die.

>>509532706
slightly less than 4 grand. Stock market doubles every 10 years on average.

>>509533652
>It basically ends up being a retirement account, except it guarantees that everyone born between Jan 1st, 2025 and Jan 1st, 2029 (assuming it doesn't get extended) will now be in favor of giving further benefits to people who game the Capital Gains Tax.
>Which I think is the actual goal of this,
Well spotted Hans, this is exactly how they get everyone to support land speculation, by letting people be homeowners of one house.

>>509533652
>Which I think is the actual goal of this, since that means it'll become EXTREMELY unpopular in the US to go after rich people who game the system when a partial generation has their future wealth tied up in the same system.

Same reason why Trump wanted to invest in Ukraine. It create some commitments that make the country solid... Such as Russia not wanting to indirectly attack USA and Ukraine being a loyal ally.

>>509533270
6k will be nothing in 18 years you stupid nigger cattle

>>509532763
>Likely nothing.
This. Everyone seems to forget about agenda 2030.

>>509533888
Expect it literally went 5x for US ((tech)) and ((AI)) companies since before Covid

>>509532706
2-3k, kek.

>>509533465
the retard meme flag in the thread cant into macro economics because they have only highschool education

>>509532595 (OP)
>More inflationary slop to artificially keep line going up for as long as possible

Wall Street really seems to be getting desperate.

>>509532706
In 18 years it'll be worth like $50.... I wish I was joking. At the current rate of debt we add to t he country, which is ~9T every 4 years... we are looking at something of 80 Trillion dollars in debt in the US.
Basically if a Child is born now, the US over Double its debt by the time they become an adult.

>>509534017
He said sp500, not magically choosing the absolute best stocks beforehand somehow. If you know the future then yes you will do much better.

>>509532595 (OP)
So far I havent seen much in the BBB that I like. The only thing I care about is getting rid of the illegals, all of them, lowering food prices, and building the fucking wall that was already paid for years ago. None of that shit needs a big beautiful bill.

>>509533911
It's devilishly clever, I'll give it that.
A shame it's clever for the sake of protecting the extremely wealthy, but that was to be expected.

>>509533946
Pretty sure investing in Ukraine was because Trump wanted in on some of that corruption money that flows out of Ukraine. Getting Russia to shut up would just be icing on the cake.
Which isn't even "Trump bad", I think most US presidents just enjoy loads of money, arguably all of them since Carter anyway.

>>509532595 (OP)
The only reason why they would issue out any money is so that they could create fake debt and lend out 10 times as much back to themselves.

As if this wants to make me have kids in this zogged up fucked up world.

>>509532595 (OP)
Only for children born between 2025-2028, so everyone outside his term gets fucked.

>>509534494
>All of them
Given Trump announced he wants an amnesty plan for hotel and farm workers, you might not like what the future holds.
>Wall
I haven't been to Arizona in a while, but the pictures I've seen have shown it's mostly done in the areas where they can actually build it, but they can't really test it since no one wants to risk crossing the border right now.
From what I understand the Cartels are waiting to see who the next president is before opening up the "getting people through the wall" business again.

>>509532595 (OP)
retards really do believe you just can print money and hand it out like that with no future consequence

>>509533349
>BIG BOOTY BRAZILIAN

>>509532789
LOL of course it is.
Trump’s entire MO is to give public funds to private, for-profit enterprises.

>>509532706
after it gets taxed when you finally withdraw it? nothing.

>>509533150
how do I know the current level of US inflation?

>>509532595 (OP)
Thats what their parents should be doing for them, not our government.

>>509534330
1500 x yearly S&P gain^18 adjusted for inflation is not 50 bucks rentnigger

>>509532706
Figure $1.000,00*e^( 0,08*T ) where T is number of years (could be decimal for partial years). This is S&P average for the last 50 years, about 8%/year constant compound. Figure double every 8-9 or so years.

>The Shit&Piss 500 scam
That's garbage. Nobody cares about stocks and crypto, it's all a scam. Should've given $50,000 dollar stimulus cheques directly to the American people as reparations for the cut in medicaid. But this orange jew bastard doesn't care about us, he'd rather give it all to Israel because jews are his friends and family.

>>509532595 (OP)
WAT! They also get free college

>>509537191
everyone should get 50acres

>>509532595 (OP)
The parents will sell it for drugs. Or to pay the rent.

>>509532595 (OP)
My dumbass coworkers were laughing about how dumb the bill is today and how awful Trump is.
I asked them what was in the bill that they objected too and not one of them could name anything in the fucking bill. Media just told them to hate it so they did.

>>509532595 (OP)
Trump is giving kids $0 and he will end SS.

>>509533187
It's invested into the markets you fucking dope

>>509532595 (OP)
Oh look college tuition and rent just went up exponentially to completely drain your account

>>509533270
We can invest money right now. What the fuck does this pitiful amount matter

>>509532595 (OP)
arent these faggots supposed to be against giving away other people's money?

Why am I paying for these children to have a 1000 dollar fund while my little kid doesnt get shit?

These faggots cant follow a simple value system.

>>509532865
It's to make the entire economy shitty but everyone has stakes in the stock market which is the only thing doing well so no one fucks with it, so Wall Street's economic power over society is maintained.

>>509532595 (OP)

glowie

thread

>>509532679
>>509532595 (OP)
So basically taxs just went up by $1000 every year

>>509532595 (OP)
more like get GAYta

>>509532595 (OP)
Ok, what about millennials

I'm surprised this appears to be real. I haven't looked at the full details but overall its actually a really good idea imo.

Buying BTC and/or some of the higher MCAP alts for your child over 2 decades until adulthood is worth doing in addition to this.

>>509533053

/pol/tards think California is the problem

>>509532595 (OP)
>will grow exponentially
>SPY
No.

BBB = BareBacking Babies

>>509534690

Sweet. I just had a kid.

>>509532706
Like $6000 based on historical trends.

>>509532595 (OP)
Son was born a few months ago, can he get it

>>509542146
Steal the little brat’s money

>>509542185

It’s tempting, looking at the hospital bills

millennials lose again.

This would never overtake BTC value growth at any point

>We just gave you $x billion debt and $1000+ usury tip, trust me you'll be rich as fuck!
Somehow I doubt the math on this

>>509532706
In 18 years with 7% average annual return it's $3,380
In 65 years it's $81,270

>>509542721
>In 65 years it's $81,270
Which after inflation would be worth about 9 or 10 thousand in today's purchasing power
Probably even less since a bunch of people would be cashing 80k checks

>>509532595 (OP)
Where is my 1k? What the fuck.

>>509533875
>Otherwise
We didn't even do any tariffing, we abandoned them for countries saying they will let companies buy American goods that they had no interest in buying. Wow you mean Japan won't tariff Amerucan cars? I'm sure in five years Tokyo will be filled with F250 superduty trucks.

>>509533053
Guess how many spics and niggers are in those states.

>>509532679
I hope elon actually forms the america party that sounds so exciting

>>509532706
$60k for GenX.
Money is money, but it's not a pot of gold even after 50 years.

>>509533237
The stock market grows faster than inflation in the long term.

>>509533875
Except it was a tax cut across the board.

>>509543009
>spics
Not many. But most of the countries blacks are there which will only make them 10x more violent when they no long get deh benefits

>>509532595 (OP)
That isn't shit. By the time they're 18 it'll be worth at best about $4500

>>509532595 (OP)
What is a S&P?

>>509543407
Glad you agree it would've been a bad idea for Trump to invest in the S&P 500 all those years ago instead of real estate.

>>509532943
>having a trust fund
Must be nice to win the birth lottery

that is fucking funny that is so trump

>>509533692
jesus, you people are dumb.

>>509532595 (OP)
https://youtu.be/Y1NZCgjqfVc

>>509532595 (OP)
It's about a half million dollars after 65 years.

>>509535870
Shadow stats. Unemployment is about 6x worse than reported. CPI is at least double reported

But none beat the king of all hidden inflation calculators, the American cheeseburger

Should have done a total market fund. This is going to lead to [even more] favored status for those 500 megacorps. "You can't let us fail, think of the children and bail us out" is inevitable.

>>509543860
>oyy vey
>you're not unemployed unless you were recently let go (not fired) within the past 3 months and actively pick up our phonecalls every week to provide documented proof of your job application process, goy
>oh, all those applications you sent out never called you back?
>not our problem, you're not unemployed even though you're unemployed

>>509543931
But that's probably part of the point.
>Too big to fail.

>>509543824
prove it

>>509543860
Boomer retards are stupid enough to blame increases in minimum wage

Where's all the money promised to us from doge savings?

>>509543931
Yep
>dont wanna buy the ATH of a 17 year long uninterrupted bull run?
>We'll force you to buy anyway by involuntarily making your kids invest

These people will do anything not to let the green numbers go down. Hidden F500 bailouts under the guise of child investments is unfathomably disgusting

>>509544100
Going into (((Their))) pockets

>>509532595 (OP)
This just means they need bag holders to buy stock when it's high.

>>509544091
>You lazy zoomie! You don't deserve pay matching CoL which increases by the second
>I deserve guaranteed customers in the form of 1.5m immigrants/yr + TFW subsidies though
I hate them4kykk

>>509544260
this lmao. taxpayer funded iiquidity and free givs to 'legal' beaners

>>509532951
When elder generations stop caring about what happens to the younger ones down the road, passing inflation IOU's onto them is just smart business sense.

>>509532706
In 18 years, there won't be United States.

He's giving money to his banker friend and cretins (MIGAtards) clap.

>>509546478
>friend
*friends

>>509532595 (OP)
I voted for trump i fucking hate him

>>509532706
>>509532706
>>509532706

>>509546652
good news- he hates you too.
He switched from being a Democrat, just to grift on top of clueless rural retards craving for 'right' (big banker/tech/billionaire/zionist)-wing propaganda and empty promises.


Two more terms and Canadian tariffs will pay for the Mexican wall in Greenland.

>>509532595 (OP)
$1,000 today is like $100 ten years ago. What a joke.

>>509547931
Some people are doing fine, the GDP is growing.

>>509533031
>image titled leftist money
>for a decision made by Trump
the absolute state of the USA kek

>>509547482
>may
Idc, white piece of shit

It was DEBUNKED, and if it does happens, it'll be LESS from last year.

>>509549482
Why a 350M pop country, with a massive university network, is importing 3rd worlders, besides the service of their ruling big tech caste?

Was the issue of 40-50M illegals solved, that you keep importing people?

>>509550003
Your race will always be inferior to Trump's race.

>>509550440
Trump's race is jewish, and 99'8% of them have been erased from this land, you brown shill moron.

The only social ladder you have access to is sentient existance as a dumbfuck goypig.

>>509550701
>99'8% of them have been erased from this land
Romans said the same about jews, before their demise.

>>509532595 (OP)
it's a scam they are gonna take out loans to pay rich people with them.

>>509532706
about $5 after fees

>>509552522
Basically. Theyll just use it to offload worthless stock to their tax cattle.

all ya niggers complaining, my gramps invested some grands at my birth and that account is now 250k€ after 25 years. some stonks went bankrupt, others mooned. While not risk free or guaranteed its a rather cheap gamble when you consider raising a child costs a quarter of a million. Everyone who doesnt do this is just retarded

>>509549417
>he thinks Trump isn't a leftist
Republicucks are leftists that like guns and don't like abortion. The right no longer exists in American politics. Boomers sold the last thing they had, political influence, to Jews and their golems who perpetually shift the uniparty system further to the left

>>509536935
If you use it as a retirment fund, with a 10% annual return it turns into 665k, but when you subtract a 3% inflation figure it produces a mere 100k. However that value doesn't need to be 'adjusted for inflation', it already was. So imagine getting 100k when you hit 65. Or more realistically, retiring and using the 10k it produces per year as interest as your new / supplemental income. So it's not enough, but you don't have to add that much to it over the first few years for it to provide a reasonable retirement fund.
Of course, if you had boomer parents like mine who put $20 into a 'college fund' they opened for me then never added anything else, realistically you'll be just as fucked with this as without it. By 18 it only produced $3,500 inflation adjusted value. But hopefully it eases the barrier to entry for parents to contribute since it would already be set up.

>>509552330
Barbarian armies that took over Rome were mustered, trained and led by former legionaries and disgruntled praetorian expatriates who wanted revenge and power.

You brown kike parasites think too highly about yourself.
And the last time I checked, Polish citizens were 99,5% White, while American K12 children (or whatever that designation was) were 44-46% White.