Thread 509547616

What's the point of this war from Russian perspective?

avoiding vassalization by the american empire

>>509547616 (OP)
It was supposed to be quick, but did not go that way. Now the purpose is just to end it on acceptable terms.

>>509547678
>Lose a ton of men and equipment to a proxy war with America
Great plan

Must be the few shekels they get to kill their genetic brother. Has to be the dumbest war of this century.

>>509547616 (OP)
i have no idea why this person gets uploaded so often. he constantly betrays himself and you can see the shadow of the genetically flawed boy that he is.

>>509548021
>genetic brother
Irrelevant in politics

>>509547616 (OP)
Search list of NATO military interventions and then also search what those nations look like today.

Alternatively just watch a documentary on slavery in Libya

Ukraine doesnt have an air defense anymore. Lol.

>>509548192
Maybe in your head, brownoid

As you can tell by USA and Western Europe's reaction, Ukraine was a wedge they tried to stick under Russia and apply leverage. Too close to Russian territory. Critical sea port. Allows western weapons to be based. Spying equipment. Its a lot like China taking a part of Mexico, on our border, and making it American style and full of American agents. In that kind of situation the opponent can call it anything, but its clear: its an aggressive challenge. If Russia couldnt fix Ukraine, maybe USA takes another piece next time

>>509547616 (OP)
I need her

>>509547704
this. look up Operation Danube, exactly what Putin tried to do on the first day, a quick and precise occupation of the capital with near zero resistance, but unfortunately it failed.

>>509548424
*chinese style/agents

>>509547737
Compared to losing Sevastopol, Ukraine joining NATO, becoming a giant American military garrison, and then having to fight the same war on even worse terms once we invented a casus belli for it 10 years later? Yes

>>509548164
He? What's his name?

>>509548452
>her
anon...

>>509547616 (OP)
ukraine was going to join nato which would have given the west control of the crimea which is where their soviet era crude/gas pipelines end. co trol of that area is vital to their sovereignty

>>509548551
Yes, her.

>>509547737
It's working.
The US can't even supply Ukraine, never mind Israel, or fight a war with China.
It's over. Putin fucked the US empire. Everyone is watching the US weakness.

>>509548164
Would

>>509548549
I think its Gliticus or Gilticus, something like that. A russian, maybe not russian, trannie, i dont think theres a lot of nudes with HIM.

who is she? why she always posted here

>>509548407
Then why have 99% of European wars been against other Europeans?

Yeah-yeah, Russia is so afraid of NATO that wanted to join it: https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/30920-document-8-cable-us-embassy-moscow-state-department-presidents-dinner-president
And had a NATO base in Russia: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2012/03/14/lavrov-backs-nato-using-ulyanovsk-base-a13280
Putin took money from Nuland and USAID: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2012/09/22/us-says-united-russia-took-aid-funds-a17985

>>509549453
Exact reason Russians and Ukrainians were fooled into killing each other.

>>509549665
That basically proves that in politics kinship does not matter.

>>509549774
That proves there is a (((foreign))) entity in each nation doing the advising

>>509547616 (OP)
>point of this war
To eliminate as many gentile fighting age males as possible before implementing their Great Reset agenda, which they are already several steps ahead on compared to most western countries.

>>509547616 (OP)
Ukraine isn't joining NATO.
Maybe stop expanding NATO. Did you want to die?

>>509548021
How do you say twelve months in Estonian?

>>509547616 (OP)
Ukraine offended the Russian population in eastern Ukraine and Russia must perform honor killing, and work hard to bring down the fucking United States once and for all, both sides have extraterrestrial technology and are mutually conspired, Ukraine is run by a druggie joke, they are embracing West Israeli degeneration and will legalize medical CP as a valid use-case for AI, and think the best of the Christians must be strangulated.

>>509547616 (OP)
Literally the most beautiful girl on the internet.
The perfect girlfriend.

>>509550087
You say "juudid ahju"

>>509549453
Myopia

>>509548302
You gave them all to Israel because your president is being blackmailed. lol

>>509550167
I love it but that's not "twelve months"....

>>509550306
You know it only works when pronounced, right? Kaksteist kuud isn't as funny

>>509547616 (OP)
Remove all hope of Russian people for anything ever getting better, a prosperous free ex-Soviet neighbor is a threat to Russian morale and a threat to Putin's control, same with Xi and Taiwan

>>509547616 (OP)
fun

>>509549283
Found him, thanks.

>>509547616 (OP)
>Russian perspective
no such country exists, it has been occupied for over 100 years

>>509548788
>brown nips
disappointing

>>509548164
Typical Russian man-tranny. Russian culture is built on a foundation of death, destruction and rape.

>>509547616 (OP)
Now why would I enligthen you (((you beeing a kike and incapable of understanding by your own))) this?

Look I'm not a faggot but if the dude looked like this and was willing to blow me id accept

>>509547616 (OP)
- Bleeding dry NATO countries who think expansion is just fine.
- Punishing Ukraine for listening to Americans.
- Returning the favor for Afghanistan.

>>509547616 (OP)
Putin serve the jews and that's a scheme, that's the perspective. Russia won't save shit and isn't defending itself from the America empire, they're doing what the jews want. I just don't know what China think of it.

>>509551589
Ivan Drag-o

>>509549665
wow, that wine glass looks so tiny in his hands.
this putin guy must be gigantic.

>>509549283
I can't find any evidence that this person is trans DESU. They mention it absolutely nowhere

>>509547616 (OP)
killing nazis

>>509548511
Russia borders many other European countries besides Ukraine, you realize that, right? If ((they)) wanted a casus belli, it would have been done a long time ago, you idiot. As per historical custom, it could easily start in Poland,just for the lulz.

>>509548511
Russia has nuclear weapons. No one was going to invade Russia. The real issue is two fold. Putin wants the empire back, as does his support base and he’s afraid of democratic contagion. Meaning that if Ukraine gets close to Europe and gets the Poland treatment? They get paved roads, drinkable tap water, and the Russian serfs start asking questions.

>>509547616 (OP)
is full of people who hate russians and want to kill russians.
but their army is made of ukranians for now

Its the remnants of the old empire cannibalizing each other. We just threw some kindling on the fire to make it last a bit longer.

>>509548788
Daily reminder that Z means Zesty, that's why ziggers use it.

>>509550408
This is probably the single largest driver for the invasion. If his serfs start asking why Ukraine (a country they insist on calling little Russia ffs) gets drinkable tap water and higher quality of life stats? He might have a problem.

To restore the Russian empire obviously

Vatnigs really believe sleepy Joe was about to invade us
For Putin it's a convenient excuse to consolidate further power and transfer more wealth to the boyars of today which is why the "special operation" is going to continue until he himself goes to meat the old George
>sure prices of all food have gone up but at least we don't have LGBT!
Fucking boomers.

>>509552584
Shut up, slop kike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

>>509553122
How does that prove anyone was going to invade Russia? They have nukes. A lot of them. They never were in any danger of invasion.

>>509552763
Little Russia makes more sense than borderland.

>>509553218
Putting aside kikes from all sides for now, a satellite proxy on your doorsteps is unacceptable for any country. That's the same as expansion and a direct checkmate and threat to your country.

>>509548511
CKII players get it, man.

>>509548424
The thing is, the only Americans that give a shit about Ukraine or some cold war with Russia must be some aging boomers still working at DOD and CIA. Nobody under the age of 50 has viewed Russia as a threat in their lifetime. What is even the point?

>>509547616 (OP)
Russia's population won’t be able to support having enough men of fighting age to protect its own borders within a generation or two, so if they are going to make any kind of military operation, it has to be now.

>>509553404
That makes even less sense. They have Poland and the Baltics right there. That’s the whole point of nuclear weapons. You deter attack. Both nuclear and conventional. Russia has more nukes than anyone else ffs. They always shared borders with Europe. Hell, before Putin decided to do the funny and kill his country off, they were Europe’s gas station and no one was going to mess with that either.

>>509553537
Doesn't matter what gymnastics you try to pull, that's how every country react, including the USA, especially the USA. The country right now with an empire is the USA, accusing Russia of having intents to be what themselves are is gibberish and silly. Anyhow, at the end of the day, logic doesn't help anyone here, the jews are counting on people resorting to either be illogical (supporting NATO) or logical (suporting Russia), they both miss the (((point))).

>>509553823
There’s no logic in supporting Russia unless you’re either a communist, or want to see white people killed in Ukraine. That’s all. The point is they have nukes. There’s no way they were facing an invasion. You can’t escape that FACT. Unless you think the Russian bombs don’t work. Do you think that?

>>509553889
Sure, let Russia do that on America's doorsteps as well, just to be fair. There's no implications after all, right? USA got bombs, a neighbor country pointing nuclear bombs to your capital where you wouldn't be able do anything to defend yourself or respond in kind bear no implications.

>>509554098
>RUSSIA is the REAL victum here! WAAAAAAAA

>>509550408
>a prosperous free ex-Soviet neighbor

>>509554098
Russia did. They recently sent nuclear submarines to Cuba. They sent their tu-160s to Venezuela. No one gave a shit because we have our own nukes and it doesn’t matter. I get it. You hate the west and you want something that isn’t the west to kill us. You can be honest about it.

>>509547616 (OP)
- They need Ukranian land, technology and manpower
- Preventing Ukraine as a possible European bulwark against russia
- From Putin's perspective, possibly chasing Soviet legacy and prestige

>>509554307
#save russian blondes

>>509554231
A better comparison is Poland or the Baltics. Remember Ukraine was stuck in Moscow’s orbit for a lot of that time, and those countries tend to do poorly.

>>509548021
my dude people wear isaf patches in tallinn, this country is as judefied as it gets

>>509554254
>oh no, North Korea- Russia is setting off exercises for show
>You hate the west and you want something that isn’t the west to kill us. You can be honest about it.
Do you love United States of Israel?

>>509554477
Ahh, here we go. So. Pic related is very important look closely. Anyway. The point is they deployed those weapons to their allies in this region. No one did anything because we don’t care. Now you can just drop the act. Ukraine wanted to get close to the EU for obvious reasons like prosperity and drinkable tap water. Not invade Russia. Russia has nukes. No one wanted that.

>>509554697
Whoops! Boo!

>>509554329
>inherit one of the most developed corners of Soviet Union with tons resources, industry and best climate completely debt free
>utterly squander everything and turn it into Africa-tier shithole in just two decades
>REEE MOSKALS HAVE SHAT IN OUR PANTS AGAIN
Dilate.

>>509547616 (OP)
>Gilticus
ДEHИC ХAMИTOB ПИДOPAC!
Hope that faggot dies.

While it is common knowledge that russians are the niggers of europe, there's another cultural aspect some people tend to forget. That is - russians are also the chinese of europe and in chinese culture the most important thing in any situation is to save face, to avoid humiliation. You'll notice that a russian, same as a chinaman will always discuss foreign politics, but never domestic. So in this war, russians still think that they can avoid total humiliation, ironically by continuing to humiliate themselves.

>>509554744
Kek, what happened to the Baltics? Or Poland? Or, well, all of Eastern Europe? I can’t drink the water in Russia. I can drink the water in Estonia. Why do you guys never develop anything?

>>509554307
>ukranian technology

You have to go back, draft dodger.

>>509554790
That is such a dumb reddit cope. Its literally quite the opposite. Russia and Russians don't give a shit about what others, especially westoids think of them, as long they get to achieve their goals. Believing this shit is why nafoids are constantly screaming RUSSIA IS LOSING RUSSIA IS LOSING, LOOK THEY ARE FINALLY ABOUT TO LOSE FACE NOW, PUTIN IS HUMILIATED, when they absolutely do not give a shit about what is happening on social media. Their kvetching simply does not matter, wars are not decided by "losing face" or updootz.

>>509552584
>muh dememecracy

>>509547616 (OP)
what a cute russian boy. any more?

>>509554995
That’s just the term that means ‘western values and culture spreading to autocracies threatening whatever junta is in power.’

>>509555105
Western values so universally desirable that we had to spend the entire Cold War overthrowing governments in Latin America as they repeatedly tried to pull away from them, and which we currently have to impose on our own population by force via a social credit system in all but name where you lose your job if you dissent against them

>>509554904
>Kek, what happened to the Baltics?
Came out of the union with no debts to pay, got showered with gibs. Still have the same parity GDP as Russia.
>Or Poland?
Same except even more extraordinary gibs as it replaced Germany as the eastern frontier of ZOGpire.
>Why do you guys never develop anything?
Well we developed the aforementioned Baltic shitholes for one thing.

>>509555308
Huh? No, Latin America was a problem of hypocrisy. Prior to radicalization most of those populations just wanted the same sort of civil rights that any American had. That would have cost United fruit too much money though, so we couldn’t have that. As for the rest? What are you even talking about? If you get fired, find a different job. You’re not going to prison for saying naughty words.

>>509555379
They seem to be a lot happier away from you guys. In fact pretty much everyone that breaks away from your ramshackle steppe empire seems happier. Why do you think that is? You know joining NATO isn’t easy. The only real reason to do so is to ensure that Russia can’t, well, Russia at you. Why does everyone keep joining? Could it be that maybe the problem is you?

>>509548511
This.
Also, war, especially the successful one, is always beneficial in long term. It drives tech progress which eventually strengthen economy in country. It also boosts morale of population if again war was successful.
Despite its slow pace, Russia is winning and US is slowly losing its dominancy worldwide.

>>509547616 (OP)
If she wasn't a gigaslut I would put a ring on it [her dick].

>>509555536
>unfalsifiable appeal to virtual emotions
You're not on reddit, boyo.

>>509555901
Do you want me to post life expectancy stats or are you going to just concede that ‘escape from Rusky mir’ is a rational desire to have?

>>509552584
NATO’s ultimate defeat. Too stupid to know that they’ve lost their proxy war.

>>509556021
Lost? Russia can’t beat Ukraine. Let alone NATO.

>>509548880
>t. butthurt kraut

>>509548549
Denis Hamitov

>>509556064
Ukraine is NATO dumbass

>>509547616 (OP)
main goals was to bleed Ukrainian population into Russia to soften the fall of dropping birthrates and establishing a foothold in black sea

>>509549283
there are few, one where he suck dick, other where he masturbate his sorry dick

>>509555379
>Still have the same parity GDP as Russia
lol
>Showered by gibs
Pretty sure that those 1% of gdp Baltics get from EU is overshadowed by over 50% of gdp you get from Siberia.

>>509556144
According to who? RT?

If Muttmerica doesn't invest more weapons into Ukraine, then Russia will grow larger.

>>509556136
Damn. He was more attractive as a young near-underage Russian stud. Chickenhawks incoming.

>>509556286
He is Bashkir (Turkic), not Russian. And Denis Hamitov is faggot and must die.

>>509556200
Baltics are essentially city-states with some farmland around them. Any gibs from the EU would be disproportionally high on their GDP.

>>509556064
Last checked the US is in the process of pulling out and ukraine is losing.

>>509556200
Well there’s also all the post war looting and forced disappearances they did to you guys. Really, having Russia as a neighbor is rolling a nat one in geography at char gen.

>>509556402
Last I checked Russia can’t defeat Ukraine.

>>509554953
You sure know a lot about reddit and updootz, but you have clearly never met a russian person.

>>509556480
Ukraine will be defeated if you don't rake up your debt and reduce your standard of living to send them more weapons.

You don't have a choice anymore.

>>509547616 (OP)
In a hypothetical scenario where the roles are reversed: USSR wins the cold war and the USA splinters around it's major states. The USSR promises the remaining states that it won't expand the warsaw pact to the Americas, but does it anyway. It uses colour revolutions to put pro communist warsaw pact leaders into power in these states. The states attempt to resolve the problem with diplomacy but fail. They draw the red line at California joining the warsaw pact and the USSR goes ahead with it anyway, destroying any diplomatic solution. A few of the remaining states resort to military intervention at a last resort.

That's basically what it looks like from Russias position. It's hard for people to understand that because they are fed history where there is a definitive good and bad side, and all the history books say they are on the good side. Pro tip: there is no good or bad side, only competing national/international interests. It's always been this way. If we go back far enough in history, this is obvious. We don't view the Great Game as having a good and bad side, and we view the Crimean War as something that doesn't make a lot of sense from a moral perspective. Today every global conflict is viewed through a moral lense of good vs bad because that is part of the propaganda, no different than the propaganda posters of the World Wars that depict the other side as immoral savages that rape and kill. The only purpose is to influence peoples view on it to further the goal. The thing is nobody in the west actually understands the goal of the west, mostly because our governments aren't even run by us or even the elected officials.

>>509556579
>flag
Enjoy your next famine.

>>509547616 (OP)
Just stop bombing Donbass in 2014 and no war.
>Shrimple

>>509547616 (OP)
What is the point of any of our wars from the American perspective?

The US doesn't get to vote on wars. If that were the case we wouldn't have had most of them.

The President, and as time has gone on, less and less, the Congress decides if we are going to have a war.

The Russians are in the same position.
Captured by some (however you define it) synergy of a nations ownership class, and it's state apparatus.

If you think like a bitch you are never going to be able to understand this shit dawg.
You have to shed all the bullshit, all the patriotism, all the allegiance and culture, and look at it like you would the nations on a globe in a real time strategy game. Competing interests, alliances, economic realities.

You can't put your personal ego into it, you have to look at it absolutely dispassionately, and you will be able to understand what the world actually is.

>>509556597
Could you post the signed treaty in which nato swore not to expand?

>>509556368
>Bashkir
oh shit this nigga is a muzzie? That's haram af, why hasn't he been killed yet?

Penis

>>509556602
>next famine.
You're going to sabotage our record grain productions?

That won't help you with Ukraine. You need more debt. More hollowed middle class, spend your resources on Ukraine, or else Russia expands.

>>509556480
But they absolutely can. What the fuck is this cope? Nafoids can't understand a war of attrition?

>>509556666
Check the digits you fuckstick newfags.

BELIEVE THE HYPE

>>509556368
>saaar he is not uralic-mongol slav mutt but uralic-turkoid slav mutt
>>509556579
>if you don't rake up your debt and reduce your standard of living to send them more weapons.
"racking" up the debt is just admitting that we're allocating funding to replace the weapons and ammo we're sending, by your own admission, and not limited to replacing them with what we sent.
russia is the one that can't afford it: they've lost 3/4ths of their gold reserves, their sovereign wealth fund is drained of liquidity, and they've also borrowed trillions for this war in private credit from banks, which will never be paid back, causing their banks to collapse when the musical chairs ends
we send old shit and allocate funding for new shit
russia empties their stockpiles and can't afford it, nor can you destroy the entire western economical base, which is required for you to win this war

>>509548788
Goddamn a truly perfect woman.

>>509556480
>RUSSIA CA-ACK
How if they already conquered good amount of east Ukraine.

>>509556672
I didn't say it was a treaty, it was just a baseless promise. Not like Russia of the 90's could demand much. The deepstate already wanted to destroy Russia even though they weren't a threat anymore.

>>509556438
>>509556438
Damn. That's one vatnig that could invade my mutt hole.

>>509556785
>>How if they already conquered good amount of east Ukraine.
have they "conquered" any of the oblasts they added to their constitution four years ago?
how many more years will it take them to occupy all of donetsk oblast, do you think?

>>509554231
pic
Also ~50% of russia budget comes from natural resources. basically free minus few % logistics.

>>509556719
>flag
Well when you have record grain production and still manage to have a famine I guess that’s something. Maybe one more massive purge will solve the problem? Who am I kidding? Always time for another purge with you people.
>>509556723
At this rate russia will be a Chinese province before they can threaten Kherson again. So if you consider self inflicted wounds attrition …

>>509556800
>it was just a baseless promise.
can you post the "baseless promise"?
gorbachev said there was no such thing
https://www.rbth.com/international/2014/10/16/mikhail_gorbachev_i_am_against_all_walls_40673.html

>>509556785
They haven’t taken a single objective. They had Kherson, but they had to retreat from that. Kyiv? Odessa? Kharkiv? Well. If you think a pile of dead Russians is worth a field in Eastern Ukraine? I suppose that’s a fair trade if you really hate Russians.

>>509556754
>russia is the one that can't afford it: they've lost 3/4ths of their gold reserve
Everything in your post is a lie.

>>509556705
Most of native Russian muslims are not muslims at all, meaning they drink alcohol, not go to mosque, etc.. Also being tranny is allowed in some Islamic countries such as Iran.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

>>509556800
That’s the point though. Russia has always been aggressive and expansionist. Its neighbors have every reason to expect Russia to act violently. There’s nothing wrong with forming a defensive pact to shield yourself from a hostile power.

>>509556863
Maybe 10 years? Who knows? Eventually Ukraine will lose, as NATO fears direct confrontation with Russia. Nato is joke.

>>509556977
>>>russia is the one that can't afford it: they've lost 3/4ths of their gold reserve
https://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2025/06/04/25954478.shtml
>The volume of gold in impersonal form also decreased from 168.06 to 139.5 tons
>On the accounts of the NWF in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation as of June 1, 153.7 billion Chinese yuan, 139.5 tons of gold
before the war, this exceeeded 400 tonnes
https://finance.mail.ru/2025-06-04/obem-fnb-na-1-iyunya-sostavil-11-7-trln-rubley-66430514/

>>509547616 (OP)
why all videos need to be mirrored?

>>509557126
Except for Russia never attacks NATO states. Which is why everyone keeps joining. It does attack a lot of non nato states though. Hence expanding NATO.

>>509547737
>implying

>>509556873
>Well when you have record grain production and still manage to have a famine
It was only real in your head and your mainstream media you trust so much.

>>509556800
Russia in the 80-90s was very much party in dismantling the Soviet Union, as they expected to join the western world as partners after, similar to the post-WW2 deal Germany and Japan got. When the deep state tried its absolute best to keep ravaging them as hard as they could into further dissolution by supporting jewish oligarchs in Russia, they got completely disillusioned and elected a strongman, Putin to restore order, which he eventually did and now returned to global politics with Russia as a player to be counted with,

Funniest shit is, if they just allowed Russia to cooperate, China would be completely isolated now. Bet they are kicking themselves over it.

>>509556873
Do you retarded trannies have no idea what a war of attrition is? If ukraine runs out of men, ammunition or money, they lose 100% of their territory anyway, as they are incapable of resisting further. Trump just cut away their gibsmedats, they are drafting 50 year olds now and they are already in technical default over their debts, so they are already circling the drain of collapsing.

>>509557047
I get it, you CIA types still want to destroy Russia because it's Russia. That much is already known. Remember, it's all just competing national interests, nothing more. No greater moral goal.

>>509557148
Try again Mutt.

>>509557188
>he's seething so hard that he's just spamming the graph again
your tsar has pissed away your liquid assets in your wealth fund, all of it has evaporated, and doesn't even have donetsk to show for it, while guaranteeing that your banks collapse if you stop the war because the kremlin cannot afford to pay back the private credit loans they guaranteed for military private industry to the banks

>>509556976
Well it is due to incompetence within Russian army. Russia was considerably weaker in 2022, than its now. Also Putin as always cucked out at Kherson. This war is making Russia stronger both in economy and militarily. The rest is just time, as NATO will not start direct war with Russia.

>>509547616 (OP)
>What's the point of this war from Russian perspective?
Its basically exactly the same as the cuban missile crisis with the countries reversed.

Lesson for other countries: Dont get politically close to a superpower when your super close to a different superpowers capital

>>509557188
Hey, I wasn’t posting about gold reserves, but now that you bring it up. Where do those numbers come from? Not the CEIC. I mean what they’re working with. Are those Russian self reported numbers?
>>509557199
When this war started Russia had a Black Sea fleet and was able to field thousands of armored vehicles. Now they’re charging noman’s land with dirt bikes. Point is that Russia can’t manage this. Also checking your flag, why would you be cheering for them? They slaughtered you guys the last time they were able to rule you.

>>509557199
The rise of China was apparently never envisioned by them. Like China was nothing more than a larger Vietnam in 1990-2000, just a bunch of rice farmers and not a threat to anyone. Now the wests foreign policy has pushed China and Russia together which isn't a natural alliance, but one born out of necessity.

>>509557315
>your tsar has pissed away your liquid assets
Nah, you're the on who have no gold left.
Keep raking up your debt. Keep producing weapons that yield in 0 results.

>>509557167
Honestly, I don't believe NATO will exist in long term. You have Turkey, who already wants to be independent from NATO, judging by their actions (buying S-400, having internal conflicts, etc...). Also who left to join Nato in Europe? All of the major powers + developing countries already joined. Lastly, why do you think ALL of the Nato members will support direct war with Russia? Even know most of them fears and you are telling about future, in which Russia will be stronger.

>>509557202
The western world was doing everything possible to placate Russia up until 2014. Then they got a slap on the wrist for Crimea. It took this 2022 bullshit to actually make anyone mad at them. Which goes back to the point. No one wanted to destroy Russia. They just didn’t want to be forced to live inside Russia.
>>509557319
Well you’re partially right. They’re incompetent and Putin is inept, but I don’t see them getting any better. Also NATO doesn’t want a war with Russia because no one wants a nuke fit. That’s why Russia is afraid of a war with nato.

>>509557462
Sweden and Finland both joined. Also anyone can leave nato. It isn’t hard. No one actually wants to. You might have been right though. Nato was perhaps on the way out. Then Putin decided to help it out a bit.

>>509557167
Also, considering the rise of isolationism in US, I believe most of future politicans may even think to dissolve Nato. You guys are just not good at long term wars, mainly because have no desire in it.

>>509557365
>Do you retarded trannies have no idea what a war of attrition is? If ukraine runs out of men, ammunition or money, they lose 100% of their territory anyway, as they are incapable of resisting further.

Answer this. Looping through random tranny copes does not work. Ukraine is going to lose and lose everything once it cracks, much like the central powers in WW1.

>>509557371
Its incredibly hilarious how the ultimate downfall to jewish plots was a strong, ethnically and culturally pure, cohesive nation state that allowed no jewish infiltration whatsoever. And no, the rise of Asia is completely normal. This was the natural order of the world since the Neolithic, Asian river valley civilizations dominating in total population and GDP of the earth, save for a brief, aberrant dip around the industrial revolution. The world is basically just returning to its equilibrium. In fact, even Hitler told about this, how the one who rules Eurasia, the world-island rules the world and warned about the rise of China. Maybe the jews should have read Mein Kampf instead of seething about it, cause now China is here and not about to leave any soon.

>>509556709
tiny

>>509557476
>The western world was doing everything possible to placate Russia up until 2014.
Maybe on paper. You'd see Bush attend moscow victory day parade and US troops even marched there. One year later you get the Georgian war in 2008. The president is usually just a figurehead for public relations. In the background you had the CIA planning colour revolutions, and then a nation that wasn't even in Europe and nowhere near the Atlantic trying to join NATO.

>>509557542
>Sweden and Finland both joined.
Nato wa craming for help and funding. The Swedcucks and Fincucks volunteered to place more tax burdens on its citizens.

The entire western world will collapse when this war ends. And you will have no results to show for it.

>>509557618
Long term? If we decide we want something, we’ll spend twenty years banging away at it. Russia isn’t even four years in to the special needs military operation, and they’re crawling towards the low estimates of their casualties in WW1. If you think this is somehow going well for them? I dunno what to say. Maybe we can talk about it when they actually accomplish something other than getting more Russians killed and failing at morale bombing?

>>509557403
>>Nah, you're the on who have no gold left.
>Keep raking up your debt. Keep producing weapons that yield in 0 results.
mongolmutt, you can't even spell. the entire worldwide amount of aid to ukraine doesn't even constitute more than 10% of the value of our (USA) reserves. putin announced that he's borrowing soon and that is not a good thing for your mongolmutt shithole. babushka on a $5/month fixed pension will be dead babushka.

>>509557712
>Long term? If we decide we want something, we’ll spend twenty years banging away at it.
Nice try indeed!

>>509557542
Again NATO is mainly about defence. And what Russia wants is to conquer its old territories (Ukraine) and annex Belarus (maybe after Luko's death). I don't believe they really want to start a real war with European states. So all this countries joining to Nato makes no difference for Russia, well except it is not Belarus.
Additionally, even if Russia will attack Baltic states, do you really think US will start full war with Russia? When I mean full, I mean ground invasion. I don't believe that Russia will attack these states, but even if they do, US will do NOTHING.

>>509557632
Ziggers have been saying Ukraine was going to lose for years. Russia controls less of Ukraine now than it did in 2022 when it had a stronger military. It doesn’t even have a Black Sea fleet anymore. Why do you want Russia to win? They slaughter you guys when they rule you.
>>509557671
You know the CIA can’t make a color revolution, right? They only happen in corrupt regimes where the people get mad at their government.
>>509557705
Now that’s some hopium. Good luck with that. Hey! How do you know communism has reached the Sahara desert? There’ll be a shortage of sand.

>>509557775
Nobody believes those Mutt numbers.
Germany ask for their gold back, and you took several years to give them what they requested.

>>509547616 (OP)
>Buhanka
Biggest killer of Russians this entire war.

>>509557312
>try again
>record values
again, that's record value of Central Bank of Russia bullion, not record tonnage. the National wealth fund bullion has evaporated.

>>509557869
>Now that’s some hopium.
Nah, when you spend all your resources on weapons, and your weapons can't acquire you more land/resources you will collapse.

>>509557814
You made my point for me. We kept up Vietnam for like 20 years. Less than 60k dead Americans. Russia wishes it had those numbers.
>>509557843
I dunno, Europe also has two nuclear states and I expect the US would do something. I think Russia is afraid to attack the Baltics though. They always hit non nato countries. Never nato ones. Russia doesn’t have a right to its old anything though. They signed that away in 1991-93

>>509557869
>You know the CIA can’t make a color revolution, right?
Nice rhetorical question retard. Try making an argument next time. The CIA has assassinated a US president and they also created a civil war in Syria and now a CIA asset that went straight from gitmo into the free syrian army in 2011 rules the country.

>>509557961
>again, that's record value
Their record value is increasing, Mutt. U mad?

>>509558003
Is that why you think russia is doing this? Because their whole economy is oil and weapons and if they don’t they’ll collapse? Man. That’s grim.

>>509558009
>We kept up Vietnam
And you have nothing to show for it.

>>509557712
They are now both economically and millitarily stronger than they were in 2022. They gained some lands in east Ukraine. They increased their allience with Belarus. Young population that was mainly liberal in 2010x, now supports this war, and are overally more nationalistic. You call this losing? Don't know, for me it is not.
And about casualties. Well it can be bad for short term, but for long term it is nothing. People will make babies, nothing is suprising here.

>>509547616 (OP)
I a ssd x fhidnbesififindoxobsuebisbforbtheijdisnsuoeoeoee

>>509558060
>Is that why you think russia is doing this?
Nah, this is What you are doing.

You are investing into something that cannot give you any returns on your investments.

>>509558042
See. This is why you really shouldn’t call people retarded. When a CIA backed revolution happens it’s pretty obvious. They’ll pick a strongman and give him money and guns. Those are the inorganic type of revolution that the CIA has done. The organic type though? The ‘lots of angry people protesting their shitty government’ type? They can’t magically make that happen.

>>509554790
>Russia Niggers of Europe
>Mystery meat Spaniards who have race mixed with abdul and paco
>Irish "people"
>Sicilian nigger italians

How are Russians with blonde hair and blue eyes whose descendants are vikings niggers when these mutts exist?

>>509557869
>Do you retarded trannies have no idea what a war of attrition is? If ukraine runs out of men, ammunition or money, they lose 100% of their territory anyway, as they are incapable of resisting further.

Looks like you have no answer to this, just posting random copes in hope of people not pushing this.

Ukraine is going to run out of western money and ammunition, or simply warm bodies, as even according to ukranian state propaganda(!) they are struggling with massive manpower shortages. Once that happens, they collapse completely, and Russia is going simply walk up to the Carpathians This is how a war of attrition works and everyone sees how this is happening now, except nafotroons who wants to keep coping about how ukraine is winning.

>>509558089
No one is going to make babies in Russia. There’s no reason to. It’s too poor, corrupt, and backward. You can’t even drink the tap water there. Anyone who can leaves for the west. Even Russians don’t want to live in Russia.
>>509558083
Eh, we’re on good terms with Vietnam now. The war was a mistake. But we could pull it off just fine.
>>509558137
Blunting an enemy like Russia and helping an ally like Ukraine is always a good thing.

>>509558009
I also dont expect that Russia will attack them, because they don't need to. After taking Ukraine, Belarus, it will restore most of its lost land in Europe. Also, I cannot imagine the state of Europe in 20 years. France will most brown, Germany will be filled with turkroaches, Britain with jeets and pakis. I know the same problem exist in Russia, but at least most of such immigrants are not jeets or arabs. They are bad but not as bad as above ones.

>>509557312
>>509557961
let me explain it to you this way, mongolmutt. you have pissed away basically 100 tonnes of gold per year filling budgetary gaps from your wealth fund. in basically one more year of pissing away your NWF gold reserves, you will have to actually dip into your central bank gold reserves, which have been stable and untouched, showing true desperation.
your CBR reserves have stayed steady because they're backing your currency. versus in a little over year when you lose the rest of your NWF liquidity by pissing away that gold and you can no longer use it to cover budget shortfalls.
so are you cheering for the tsar to piss away the rest of your country's accumulated wealth, I guess?

>>509558151
There is obvious difference between a nation like Ukraine and Syria. People did die during the 2014 revolution and it could have escalated if the president wanted it to, but he fled instead. Bashar rightfully stood up to it even though he was never going to win on his own.

>>509547616 (OP)
When the USSR collapsed a lot of ethnic Russian found themselves living outside of Russia. There was and still is whole cities inhabited by Russians and were Russian cities. These newly independent countries did not like this so they started an anti Russian campaign to preserve there culture since Moscow was still the most wealthiest place to do business in. In Ukraine they took it a bit further and half the country basically did not want the rest of the country vote. Since then it's gotten even worse for these ethnic Russians the balts in particular openly harassment there ethnic Russians but because there in NATO Russians hand of judgement can't reach them. Culturally the Russian language is a problem for this countries because your wealth can be attributed to how good your Russian is much like English and German. In Kazakhstan for instance thevw tried for decades to reverse it but recently the young generation is starting to prefer Russian.

>>509558171
You guys have been spamming this for years and it’s never happened. Let me know when Russia isn’t sending men to die in golf carts. Still, why are you shilling for them? They keep slaughtering you guys when they invade you. Do you want to get rolled over by their tanks again?

>>509558261
>Eh, we’re on good terms with Vietnam
Nah, thy have refused to be your proxy army, cope more.

>>509558261
>Blunting an enemy
You're blunting yourself. Draining your middle class and their living standards for no gain in land nor resources.

>>509558261
>Can't drink tap water
How is that preventing birth rates? In fact, niggers in Africa can produce million babies without even having healthy water source. The problem with birth rates is common in European nations and in Russia. And government is aware of it as I know. However, don't know will they able to fix it.

>>509558272
>you have pissed away basically 100 tonnes of gold per year filling budgetary gaps from your wealth fund.
Nope, Russia has more gold than ever. Try again Mutt.

>>509558345
Lad the Ukraine war has been brewing for decades it was bound to happen why do you think there's been so much immigrants in the U.S from that area even before the war. Half of Ukraine was decadents of Ukrainian volunteers for Germany and the other half are defenders of the Soviets soldiers that fought them.

>>509555379
You don't even need to go that far with the GDP just look at how much of the EU budget every goes into stimulating these supposed sovereign and independent former soviet nations. If a country cannot self-sustain themselves by their own economy and has to rely on a global entity like the UN or the EU to bail them out every year then its not a sustainable economy and only exists as a vassal state to spite Russia.

The real problem is that all these former soviet countries genuinely believe it was Russians and Stalin who created communism and all the atrocities that came with it when in reality it was Jews who destroyed these totally real and not Russian "countries"

>>509558446
Descendants of the Soviets*.

>>509558282
>and it could have escalated if the president wanted it to, but he fled instead
he fled because it was his snipers, you retard

>>509558268
Oh. Russia WANTS to. They just don’t want to get nuked. Putin would invade Poland if he thought he had a snowball’s chance in hell of not pulling the rest of the alliance in.
>>509558282
He fled because Putin told him to crack down and he ended up having protestors shot. That pissed off even his own supporters and his security services weren’t going to take the blame for his orders. So he fled and they elected someone new. The CIA did NOT do that. That was just a normal human reaction to a corrupt asshole running your country. Hell, Yanny even looted their treasury on his way out.

why not get yourself a trad Russian farmgirl qt?

>https://youtu.be/7rBudquQ7cI?si=Z1VzTArNYoI__V30

>>509558439
>Russia has more gold than ever
you quite literally do not, mongolmutt. the tonneage has stayed steady.

>>509555536
Who told you this because from what I heard from actual people who grew up from the Soviet Union it was much better. The ex USSR countries are either mafia states or in balts case countries whose economies are litrealy just outside investments.

>>509558491
This Muttbot is posting a lot of lies.

>>509558564
>you quite literally do not
Na, they do.
It's your gold that has evaporated.

>>509558393
Killing hundreds of thousands of enemies is helping us. Also we literally dock warships in Vietnamese ports. They’re a huge trading partner.
>>509558435
Yah, but that’s Africans. Russia on the other hand? Well. The stats are pretty clear. The brain drain is also pretty clear. Of course there was a way around this, but it would have meant modernizing and not just reverting to the default setting of corrupt autocracy.

>>509558491
Go volunteer in Ukraine.

>>509558491
>Nuked
US will not use nukes on russia only because of some estonians get hurt. Or you are telling me they are ready to get nuked by Russia just to protect some small village like country in Europe. C'mon you dont even believe in it.

>>509558446
Yes and no. The whole country voted to leave the USSR. It’s quite a bit more complex than that, but in the end this war was not necessary. If Russia has accepted Ukraine wanted to trade with the EU and maybe join it? There never would have been a problem. That would have meant accepting Ukraine as a sovereign state though and the siloviki couldn't stomach that.
>>509558566
I hear the reverse. Also anyone in Central Europe that I’ve spoken with isn’t eager to return to life under Moscow.
>>509558580
What? That’s what happened.

>>509558616
>Na, they do.
>they
show flag, mongolmutt
>It's your gold that has evaporated.
Russia has used over 350 tonnes to pay for this war, so no.

>>509558626
>Killing hundreds of thousands of enemies is helping us.
You gained nothing from it, it only made you known as an evil country, an evil civiliation.

>Also we literally dock warships
And? You can also easily be banned from there. start a war with them and see what happens.
>They’re a huge trading partner.
It usually make you very butthurt to buy mad in Asia. But you have a need to pretend you won something?

>>509558345
>Do you retarded trannies have no idea what a war of attrition is? If ukraine runs out of men, ammunition or money, they lose 100% of their territory anyway, as they are incapable of resisting further.

Looks like you have no answer to this, just posting random copes in hope of people not pushing this. Ukraine is inevitably losing.

>>509558628
Go volunteer for Russia.
>>509558715
Well. If the DEW system comes online properly? We’ll just nuke Russia and not get nuked back. That said, there are two countries with nukes already in Europe and more are debating developing the things.

>>509558742
>What?
I said you are a lying Mutt bot. Can't you read, Mutt?

>>509558754
>Russia has used over 350 tonne
Nah, they have lot of gold.
You have nothing left but green toilet paper.

>>509558815
Russia is losing men and material far faster than Ukraine is. That outpaces their population and armament disparity. Now. Why are you shilling for Russia when they keep slaughtering you guys?
>>509558799
We’re helping people defend their homes and killing our enemies. That makes us ‘good.’

>>509558828
How am I lying? Also show flag for that matter.

>>509558742
The war was gonna happen I know this becouse people from both sides in that area kept on arguing about constantly even before the war started. There was always one side that was for Slavic brotherhood and the other side about European integration and Ukraine being better then Russia.

>>509558911
>We’re helping people defend their homes
Nah, you attacked people's homes and bcaam known as the evil empire.

>>509558822
Yeah no Biden started his pants over one submarine.

>>509558940
>How am I lying?
But posting lies. Retarded Mutt bot.

>>509558715
Recently, they tested ICBM "oreshnik" with speed above mach 10. Both US and Russia in fact has such tech. It will be really hard to develop such AAW to counter these missiles. Maybe it would be effective at shooting 50% of them, but the rest 50% will do its work. Also, who will develop such AAW? Indians who are your goverment importing? US right now is joke , as it is becoming less white each decade. Soon, with current birth rates of Latinx, you will become Mexico 2.0.

>>509558960
Not really? The European integration was always popular. There was also no real barrier to ‘Slavic brotherhood’ given there are plenty of Slavs in the EU. At most you had the more nationalist right wing elements of Ukraine worried about too many immigrants from North Africa if they fully joined the EU. Hence the trade deal that Russia threw a tantrum over.
>>509558967
What does that have to do with Ukraine? Show flag.

>>509558990
No he didn’t. He had a much bigger problem with that chink balloon.
>>509559007
Show flag. I’m betting it’s israeli.

>>509558822

See
>>509559076

>>509559088
No it was more like Russian, Beloryssian, and Ukranian thing. The Western Ukrainians wanted to join EU and wanted to work with them while the Eastern wanted to work with Russia.

>>509558891
>Nah, they have lot of gold.
so you're advocating that the tsar draining the rest of your liquidity out of your wealth fund?
he just used 48% of gold tonnage in december to cover the budget after using most of the other liquid assets over 3 years

>>509558911
I just love watching ukrainians die because it pisses off reddit trannies, simple as.

>>509547616 (OP)
>why would you want to protect and incorporate people who are ethnically and culturally identical to you while gaining access to highly productive land and denying it to a bunch of rootless cosmopolitan trannies
why does the EU think people are interchangeable economic units to be shuffled around like drones?

she is not smiling. she is devil. her face is fake.

>>509559088
>What does that have to do with Ukraine?
You have the memory of goldffish, ask your sysadmin to upgrade your RAM.
>Long term? If we decide we want something, we’ll spend twenty years banging away at it.
Then I point out your failed in Aghanistan.
Then you got butthurt and said Vietnam war was good.
And now your butthurt ha reached gigantic proportions, and you no longer remember how you pivoted to this talking point.

>>509559141
>Show flag.
You're butthurt and hope you can datamine me.

>>509559165
That’s some fun fantasy. We have been testing the things in Ukraine and against Iran. The whole point is to get a DEW system so we can just nuke Russia if they don’t stay in Russia. There won’t be 1% doing work if that happens.
>>509559168
There was always a desire, a broad one to trade with Europe and become wealthier and more prosperous. The East just assumed Russia wouldn’t lose its mind over a trade agreement. That’s where this split happened in the first place. Since prior to the 2014 shit? Ukraine wanted to be friendly with both the EU and Russia. That includes trading with both. Russia went batshit over this though because the siloviki are paranoid as fuck. Especially since with the naval base lease that was signed, Ukraine couldn’t join nato.

>>509559290
>Then I point out your failed in Aghanistan.
uh oh mongolmutt, you seem to have forgotten something
(2012) - why did Putin allow NATO into the country?

>>509559172
>so you're advocating
Nope. I'm advocating for them to keep going and drain you for your worth.

>>509559335
>contact with the EU
>becoming wealthier and more prosperous
TOP KEK WORKED OUT FOR GREECE

>>509559177
You must love seeing Russians die then. Since holy shit are a lot of them getting mulched by this stuff.
>>509559290
Oh. Don’t worry. I can’t dox you with a geotag. So. Show flag. Are you Jew, Poo, or some other thirdie stew?

>>509559363
>(2012)
Don't care, you till failed in Afghanistan and raked up trillions in debt for nothing.
You will have debt until you die.

>>509559405
Oh. I never said it was assured. That’s just what they wanted. Since it did work out for Poland and the Baltics.

>>509559472
The opposite is assured and the fact that the EU is a project designed to funnel money into Germany and the disgustingly unproductive managerial parasite class is well known to everyone (including in the Ukraine). The West being highly propagandised doesn't change reality lol. Cunts want out of the EU, not in.

>>509559442
>Oh. Don’t worry. I can’t dox
I don't care Mutt.
We know you collect data on us when you get sufficiently butthurt and ask for flags.

>>509548021
The chechen wars was pretty dumb. Arab spring was a disaster (nato bombed Ghadaffi forces, it counts)

>>509547616 (OP)
To modernize by adapting to using hobby drones with a stick attached to front of it. Who would of thought a fucking stick would be in modern warfare ?

>>509559524
Seems rather the reverse to me. It worked for Poland and the Baltics. That’s what Ukraine wanted to emulate.

>>509548788
i'm not gay but..

>>509559601
>Poland
Okay bud. Sure.

>>509559365
but we're not draining our worth?
>you till failed
Mongolmutt still can't even spell
Trump forced a withdrawl and isn't holding them to any of their commitments. He is the one that lost.
>Don't care
But mongolmutt, you said you were worried about NATO expansion? Why did Putin allow NATO into the country?

>>509559561
Kek you think I’m running a study? Man, trust me, no one other than the CDC would study you, and only then as a lab animal. Jew, Poo, which are you? Show flag.

>>509548407
>1965
also the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965
I am sad that they shot (J.F.) Kennedy but if they didn't, he had some other immigration bills incoming and the consequences would have probably shat the USA out the drainpipe with Jimmy Carter commie clan instead of Niggerbama fag clan

>>509552584
>No one was going to invade Russia.
You litterally did. Ukraine is Russia.

>>509559666
>Kek you think I’m running a study?
Of course, you're trying to find out my origin because I had the audacity to make you assblasted.

Send criminals to die and capture good coastal lands in progress. Without any civilian casualities.

>>509559405
Greece was a borderline third world country in the 50s anon. Turkey used to be the wealthy country inbetween those two if you can believe it

>>509559723
Yes. Because Russia invaded Ukraine. What’s funny is that your tsar DOES want to use nukes over that, but Xinnie told him he isn’t allowed to first use in an offensive war.

>>509559723
>Ukraine is Russia
It is not

>>509559747
Naw, you’re just whining and calling me a mutt and a liar. So I wanted to know if I was dealing with a Jew or a Poo. So. Which is it? Street shitter, or dickbiter?

>>509559792
See? Normal communication with westoids is not possible, we need to kill each other, its the only way. And its good.

>>509559661
>but we're not draining our worth?
Tiktok Mutt

Russia is the worst nation on earth

>>509559788
Russia did not invade Ukraine. USA conduted a coup in Ukraine and then this puppet regime started war against Eastern regions who didnt recognized the puppet nazis that came to power.

I'm pretty sure putin expects to live forever, but once he does finally die i wonder what kind of vacuum of power at the top will happen and whether the regime will be able to hold on. I have also seen countless ukranians reee at russians that they should do an uprising and dismantle the government (despite the government having all the weapons and paid off the oppression force), but if we look at history, has there ever been an actual case where war broke out and the populous was able to stop its own government and halt a war? As far as i can think off usually the war has to run its course before whichever side runs out of manpower/resources and war finally stops.

>>509559832
>Naw, you’re just whining
Nah, calling out your Mutt lies is the best way to derail you.

Reminder that the term "soviet cold war stockpile" will never be used again in war analysis

>>509559959
posts country with litterally not enougth gear leaft to arm a single brigade

>>509559912
Oh come on. We all know about the plain clothes troops your tsar sent to invade the East while you invaded Crimea. It’s not hard to see. I was here for the clankening after all. Yanny fled the country and refused to contest his impeachment in court. His removal was entirely legal AND he lost a lot of support for having protestors shot.

>>509559868
>>See? Normal communication with westoids is not possible
When an corrupt ex-commie apparatchik says it is not and predicts how stupid it will be if you do what you ended up doing, it isn't
Sorry that your cries of "we wuz Rus" just get greeted with genetic proof that you're a bunch of uralic-turkoid mongol mutts

>>509559947
What lies? You’ve not said anything was a lie. Seems pretty jewy to me. Unless. BOO!

>>509559996
you know nothing about conflict, you are a brainwashed retard and frankly - we are beyound talking and its great
>>509559868

>>509560029
>What lies?
Everything you post is a lie, Muttlard.

>>509560028
so far the one making hourly such threads and coping daily trying to assess why reality isnt like what you expect (since you are brainwashed idiot) is not me.

Me? I am on wining side.

>>509560034
Hey. I’m trying to help you. You’re the one who wants to bleed to death in a muddy hole with your body perforated by tungsten steel shrapnel. Is Russia really that bad that you want that?

>>509559868
Correct. Your entire race needs to be eradicated.

>>509553443
You should seriously stop believing anything Zeihan says. He came up with that hot take and he's been wrong about almost everything. He's a cope merchant for US boomers.

>>509560072
So does that mean if I say you’re not a poo that means you’re a poo?

>>509547616 (OP)
stealing other peoples stuff, generally

>>509559882
>Russia Hate
>In 2025
Grandpa, the 1980s called.

>>509560077
How much of that winning is derived from the millions of migrants coming to your shithole every year, including but not limited to niggers from africa, pajeets, and brown central asians?

>>509560126
No it means you're retarded, and your civilisation will be killed by your wars.

>>509559882
now post your town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLzFX3XexlA
https://youtu.be/CLfVNSqaoV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UogST2om1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS1rUorOBAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI44LU-VZFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cug7c6yHLNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCYkhkzxRSs

>>509560144
All Russians and non-Russians who support Russia need to be wiped out. Death is the ONLY solution to the Russian Problem.

>>509548880
>The US can't even supply Ukraine
We can. We just don't want to do it because there is little or no profit for us to do it.
The fact that Europe did nothing when Russia invaded its backyard tells me all I need to know.

>>509554904
I'm paying for their the economy at the tune of 3% of my salary/year or so. And so are most of the people living in Benelux, Nordics, Germany, France and Italy.

>>509560177
are they in the room with us now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugHzWLdWdo8

>>509560144
No. It’s pretty bad.

>>509550167
I was unprepared.

>>509558268
Moscow will be 80% brown by 2050. They have the same problem.

>>509560271
Seriously why would anyone hate Russia? They're white.

>>509547616 (OP)
Russians are onthologically evil

>>509560243
While I can see why you might be upset about that, the issue is that Ukraine wanted European development aid. Something that other countries had gotten.

>There are retards ITT that think 150 million Russians struggling with a 35million population Ukraine will be able to take a 450millipn Europe.
What causes such delusions of grandeur.

>>509547616 (OP)
They are literally succesfully conquering strategically valuable land, their reasons are visible from space.

Why is Ukraine fighting?
I mean sure "defense" but they have lost some of these territories for over ten years, it has long since stopped being about defense and survival.

>he's breaking out the same three blocks in moscow and st petersburg cope youtube video spam
lmao

>>509560365
Probably because they keep killing white people for no good reason.

>>509560386
I'm not mad. You have to prop up your vassals to gain power over them. What I don't like is that we foot the bill to buy their allegeance to the US. That's the cucked part. Europe needs to be its own superpower, not in cahoots with Brazil + oil which is failing a bit more every day.

>>509560407
Russia has made it clear they want to take the whole country. That’s extinction.

>>509560498
Oh. You guys should be independent. That’s why I’m glad you’re rearming.

>>509560390
Nukes and arms stockpiles. Euros sell off most of the military equipment they make meaning they have very little actually on hand for themselves, so despite the population and production advantage they can't immediately utilise it. They also don't have anywhere near as many nukes as Russia so the Russians can always just vaporise the entire continent if they want.

>>509560516
Hah.

>>509560376
you people sound like you're stuck in the past.
The cold war is over. Next you're going to tell me we hate "those fuckin' dirty yellow peril JAPS"

Like MOVE ON.

>>509554473
>tallinn
>globohomo city concentration camp
Get your rural houses while they're cheap, Taavet. I could care less what goes on there.

>>509560630
Then why are Russian politicians threatening to take the Suwałki Gap and attack the Baltics and Poland?

>>509560698
Because Baltics try to blockade Kalinigrade and north sea, which is act of war.

>>509547616 (OP)
At first, they thought it would be over quickly, with minimal losses.
The point was to counteract the shrinking of the Russian population by repeating the Crimea operation on a bigger scale.

Now they're doing it because of sunk cost.
Russia still has some democratic elements, a defeat would be the end of Putin.
At the same time they antagonized the West, and it's obvious whatever is left of Ukraine in the end will belong to the West. So they have an incentive to take as much of Ukraine as they can while they're still fighting Ukraine alone.

>>509548021
not as dumb as the cartel war

>>509547616 (OP)
>What's the point of this war from Russian perspective?

1: Border security.
2: Securing their Black Sea port at Sevastopol.
3: Protecting ethnic Russians.
4: OIL!!!

>>509558911
>Do you retarded trannies have no idea what a war of attrition is? If ukraine runs out of men, ammunition or money, they lose 100% of their territory anyway, as they are incapable of resisting further.

Government bot hate getting called out like this so much.

>>509560735
Can you show me this "blockade"?
Is it in the room with us right now?
Or are you talking about your shitshack oil tankers that leak oil in everyone's waters when you are forced to circumnavigate that way during the winter which you operate without insurance and Ukraine ends up blowing them the fuck up with mines off the coast of libya anyways?

>>509560878
>>2: Securing their Black Sea port at Sevastopol.
They don't seem to be doing too good of a job at that. What Navy does Russia even have left, anyways? Didn't another admiral just die and it was revealed that multiple ships didn't even exist anymore with corruption siphoning the funds for maintaining the ships?

>>509548164
>i have no idea why this person gets uploaded so often. he constantly betrays himself and you can see the shadow of the genetically flawed boy that he is.
At least with trannies they're happy to play 40k or model railroads or first-person shooters with you. Try finding a girl who genuinely enjoys that.

>>509549665
Someone should decapitate this motherfucker and burn Zelensky alive. A war between two countries facing huge demographic declines before the conflict. The only thing that’ll happen is that beautiful Ukrainian women will be replaced in their own country by niggers and Mudslimes. All this war has done is giving these two parasitic diseases another population center. The war should’ve been proxy fought in Congo or Pakistan.

>>509559561
>>509560578
This is a cope.
They don't need as many nukes, and they have more economic capability than Russia by far, their exports are diverse and complex and not just Oil and crime based. Their military exports are also an order of magnitude higher than Russias. Germany is one of the largest chemical exporters in the world.
There is no scenario where Russia wins without first having removed a nation from NATO and the EU. None.

If the war turns Nuclear then Russia is dead because the EU and defending nations have 440 missile topped nukes and 40 + gravity bombs, which is more than enough to flatten Russian industry, attacks and population in totality.

Why do you use VPNs retard.

>>509561359
Dude. Look at yourself. We destroyed more english tanks than you have left. Your fleet and sumbarines are inoperable. Your nukes arent "yours" and you dont have codes to launch. You trained 100k ukrainian troops and they are all now dead. Your industry non existent. You cant afford eggs.

France? Cant even win against cannibals in Africa.

Germany? Military is non existant.

The good thing about Ukraine war is that it shown NATO is total paper tiger, its gear is worthless, and it never stood a chance and now doesnt scare anyone.

>>509559567
You don't understand what >>509548021 means. Chechen wars was Russians against chechens. Arab spring was the west killing arabs and destabalizing the middle east in favor of IL (from the american perspective that makes sense and is logical).
But the Ukraine war is a nation exterminating their sister nation. Ukranians are close to russians and the ukraine war makes 0 sense. It is only a jew induced genocide so that kikes can settle ukraine later.

Russia will be filled up with Indians, niggers, 'stanis and chinese, while Ukarine iwll be filled up with Jews from Israel and indians as shabbos goyim.

It is over for the slavs because russia decided to attack ukraine. If the war hadn't happened they both could have survived.

>>509547616 (OP)
>>509548164
>Woman experiences childlike joy playing with a toy like a normal human.
>Its not a woman.
Why are woman not like this?