Thread 509552644

>Writes a bunch of incomprehensible nonsense bordering on PUA nonsense self determination that ends up ruining western society and inspires the Nazis to start a war that kills millions of whites
>Can't even live up to his own standard that he set up and dies insane and invalid, achieving nothing but universal mockery during his own lifetime
>Thousands of incels still worship his nihilistic Anti-Christian anti morality death cult

Was he the Antichrist?

>>509552644 (OP)
He was syphilitic German incel. I doubt if his writings really did change anything politically. I tried reading his stuff a few times and never was able to finish them. He's so fucking boring.

>>509552644 (OP)
he was a crypto-kike

>>509552762
Thus spoke zerathustra is preddy gud

>>509553246
Bored me to suicide. He was a major windbag, you could taste the seething coming out of the pages. And besides that, I couldn't find anything original in his thought.

>>509552762
The Nazis directly quoted Nietzsche's Übermensch for their pseudo-philosophy made up version of history and ruined nationalism and as a result western society forever

>>509553536
They would have done the same without him. People give these thinkers too much credit.

>>509553356
You jews are so retarded

He still makes Jews seethe, judging by this thread... I'm starting to come around to the guy.

>>509553611
Nietzsche literally worshipped jews

>>509552644 (OP)
>nietsche couldn't be an ubermensch
Obviously, a person like that appears only a few times in human history.

>>509553536
Nationalism is overrated anyway.

>>509553693
>>509553611
This. He lashed out at Christianity. I think his love for jews was just a way for him to piss the Christians off. His physical weakness seeped into his writings and ruined his mind.

>>509553722
So his opinion is then relevant, by his own logic, because?

>>509553356
>I couldn't find anything original in his thought
-70iq post. Man whose ideas have seeped into and helped form subsequent philosophy doesn't come across as original over a century later when read at source. Amazing. It's like going to the museum to see the Wright Flyer and saying the machine is nothing original because we have jet fighters already.

>>509553536
They used a lot of Nietzsche's work, and the claim that they misinterpreted it is disingenuous. Nationalism is just fine. It is just Europe that has a problem with it now. I suspect that has less to do with the war and more to do with European leadership than the population wants to believe.

>>509553693
He wrote one passage complimenting their racial insularity. He wrote several others condemning their, shall-we-say, "Jewishness."

>>509553808
Give me an example then of something original he ever thought of.

>>509552644 (OP)
I'll read a chapter now and then or a few aphorisms. Genealogy of Morals is good, as well as Human, All Too Human, and Zarathustra.

>>509552644 (OP)
You've never even read anything by Nietzsche you gypsy retard

I have to remind you that jewish santa claus isn't real.

>>509553821
Their jewishness and racial insularity are chicken and egg. Again he didn't really like Jews. To him they were a way to vex the Christians. I doubt if he ever had any real dealings with them but only treated them academically.

Nietzsche fanbase are the most obnoxious people on the planet. If you in any shape or form disagree with him it's because you don't understand him [like they do].

>>509554017
You should take a good look at this insane retard that ended up shitting himself and being handfed mushed peas by his mom and remember that's how Satan discards his workers once he's done with them

>>509552644 (OP)
I don’t like horses.
>>509552762
I don’t like horses.
>>509553246
I don’t like horses.
>>509553772
I don’t like horses.

>>509553816
Nationalism is only slightly better than anarchism. Anyone attempting nationalism is open to be swallowed by internationalists.

>>509553585
Based jew making neitzshefags seethe. Never stop being entertaining hershel.

>>509554167
Thanks but I'm Arab.

>>509554217
Whatever

>>509554108
A population that doesn't respect its nation is a club of hedonists. Over and over again throughout all history, these people's fall like a sack of bricks to barbarians who do care. Your great works burned to cook a squirrel. It's the arrogance of modernity that keeps them blind to this painfully obvious truth of the world. "But that couldn't happen again." Spoilers it will.

>>509552644 (OP)
>ITT retards who never read Nietzsche
You need to read the Greeks, then Schopenhauer and after you've consumed Nietzsche, you need to read Jung. Otherwise you have no idea what you're talking about and your greentext implies as much.

>>509554516
Why would I listen to a guy that told me that only strong people can make up valid morals who achieved nothing except making himself go insane and everyone during his own lifetime laughed at him?

>>509554516
And then top it off with Jordan peterstein, really shows the evolution of western thought.

>>509554564
>it took no strength of personality to publicly and loudly go against god and altruistic morality in the 1800s
The average person isn't capable of pushback against a boss that demands illegal overtime let alone to proclaim that god is dead on a continent worth of people still very much in the grip of the church

>>509554739
By the time he was writing the church had lost most of it's grip. We are talking about the period after napoleon and Marx. He was fighting a war that was finished 50 years before that.

>>509552644 (OP)
What was Nietzsche seething about anyway? He lived at the end of the best time period to be a male in by far.
You could fuck 13 year old girls ar brothels and buy heroin over the counter at the pharmacy. There was very limited feminism, you could still get a virgin wife.
Any form of degeneracy was heavily frowned up society was better in every way except material conditions.

>>509554897
>fuck 13 year old girls

He fucked 13 year old boys

>>509554809
>the church had lost most of it's grip
As an institution, undoubtedly, it had already decayed from a position of power to a position of influence and was only going further downhill. As a mental presence, religion was still in more or less everyone except the city rich and the nobles, who still had to put an outward face that conformed to religious expectations. You could say that by that point jesus was like santa and everyone pretended to believe because everyone else pretended to believe and because everyone thought that this collective playalong was good for the collective, and maybe that wouldn't be super far off (again, for cities) but let's not downplay the fact that it wasn't a small thing to call it all out in the way that he did.

>>509554564
So, instead of trying to better yourself and stand atop the mountain you'd follow Nietzsche into his own abyss? Shows how much like him you truly are. Do you still live in your mom's basement too?
>>509554597
Fuck off, retard. Nobody who's been posting here before the 2016 election buys anything that shekel meister has to sell.

He is waste of time and he will waste your time with his endless books of drivel. all you need to read is Stirner and be done with it. That's the beginning and end of ethics and self improvement.

Most of philosophy is people in the 1800s killing time wanking.

>>509555043
Oh great, the spooks have arrived.

>>509554947
Good for him. Either way society was a lot more libertarian and permissive than today's surveillence state nonsense.
If he woke up today he would go insane in less than one week, the amount of freedom and self determination people had back then compared to today is actually ridiculous.

>>509555043
Another example of a guy who would have a stroke if he woke up in 2025 lmao.
It's actually funny these guys were rebelling against one of the most permissive societies ever.

>>509553610
He's no Jew. He's an Israeli. A white European expat who LARPs as Jew.

>>509553861
>>509553356
>I couldn't find anything original in his thought.
the major and I think only achievement of Niecki is that he was the first to notice the NPC cattle vs Humans problem, the matrix most were locked into without an inkling of thought or life behind their eyes, no internal monologue etc.

Kikes are major NPCs, as are germcucks (who Niecki detested for this reason) so no wonder you didnt get it

>>509554952
Schopenhauer did it better.

>>509555134
He would have been probably just like many German anons here. He used to go visit gay brothels in Italy where he caught syphilis and became an invalid tard.

>>509555018
Can you please rationalize why I should follow the teachings of an insane german retard incel that achieved nothing rather than Dostoevsky, who became a national hero and was one of the most successful writers of all time?

>>509555282
I'm Arab Mikolaj. I found the Greeks, Kant, schopenhauer, heidegger, Weininger and hegel interesting. Sorry for not appreciating the genius of Freddie here.

>>509555325
>hey internet man tell me what to do with my life in my own thread
you're clueless, brother best follow
>>509555043
advice, because you're ngmi

>>509555291
Today he would've been thrown into a rape dungeon and fucked to death if he had sex with a 13 years old boy.
The freedom they had back then was actually insane.

>>509555325
>dostoshit
jesus christ, amateur hour
you're 15. he wrote melodramatic pulp fiction with unnecessary & unrealistic moralizing twists at the end, that's his entire body of work, as is the case with pretty much all russian crap, asiatic fairy tales
it's not the product of White civilization

>>509555403
I was discussing philosophy with you. We're going by Nietzsche's own logic, and I was curious as to why anyone would follow him rather than someone that actually was successful and well respected

>>509555417
Probably be living in Thailand or someplace where you can fuck kids.

>>509555394
nah, i think nietzsche sucks too, it's for teenagers, but he did influence me when i was like 19. but it's something you take in & then move on. eventually I settled on Plato

>>509555468
Plato is probably all you ever need.

>>509555446
>hurr durr
>success
>respect
You have no idea how many influential and successful people Nietzsche had an impact on. I already told you his work influenced one of the most successful and useful psychologist of the 20th (and honestly 21st so far) century.

>>509555425
Way to expose yourself as never having read Notes from the Underground

>>509555522
and Jesus Christ :^)

>>509555466
But you can't fuck kids in Thailand, you must be stuck in the 90's.
I mean you probably can if you try hard enough but are you willing to risk prison as a foreign pedophile... in fucking Thailand.

>>509555530
Wow is that the regime that killed thousands of white Europeans?

>>509555555
Based.

>>509553693
Is this real?

>>509555555
Checked. They are the same.

>>509555566
Or kidnap poor hohol kids for jew millionaires.

>>509555555
chekem

>>509555291
>Schopenhauer did it better.
Perfect is not the enemy of good. I don't even like Nietzsche and I still don't know why you're trying to portray ol Fred as completely worthless and without anything admirable about him to this extent. Are you some kinda centuries old vampire and he fucked your crush back then or something?

>>509555669
>>509555566
>>509555466
you can fuck kids in Svay Pak, Cambodia, or so i heard
the journey there must resemble the journey from Apocalypse Now hehe, journey to the end of your mind

>>509552644 (OP)
>PUA
Do you expect me to know what that means?

>>509555797
"Redpilled" pick up artist youtubers

>>509555555
Checked

>>509555750
I get annoyed at incels describing him as a mega genius. But you are right he is rather unimportant.

>>509552644 (OP)
miss u freddy

>>509553004
He literally argues that Judaism (and Christianity, it's conclusion) has poisoned western civilization. From the Antichrist:
>We encounter this same phenomenon once again and in immeasurably enlarged proportions, yet merely as a copy: the Christian church cannot make the slightest claim to originality when compared with the “holy people.” That precisely is why the Jews are the most catastrophic people of world history: by their aftereffect they have made mankind so thoroughly false that even today the Christian can feel anti-Jewish without realizing that he himself is the ultimate Jewish consequence.

You've never read Nietzsche.

>>509553536
Nazi co-opting of Nietzsche's works was due to his Nazi sister editing them after he died to make them amenable to Nazi ideas. Nietzsche would have hated the statist ideas of the Nazis.

>>509553772
You've clearly never read Nietzsche either. Also you forgot your VPN.

>>509555786
>Svay Pak
If it's the year 2000 maybe. You guys sure are stuck in the past this whole SEA child prostitutes era is long gone, feminists ruined everything.
You wanna risk going to Cambodian prison with a pedo charge? You better be ready to kys the moment cops knock on your hotel door.

>>509555555
came here to check these digits

>>509555931
>"Christianity poisoned western civilization"

And how is western civilization doing now that we've adopted the works of this idiot?

>>509554897
Oh, so you're a pedophile. Opinion discarded, KYS.

>>509556072
Western civilization has in no way adopted Nietzsche's ideas. Tell me, what Nietzschean ideas have we adopted?

>>509556080
So was every man before 1900 booo hoooo. Cry me a river.

>>509556128
Abandoning objective morality

Hilarious and based how this one man makes christcucks seethe like no other. Most have never even read a single one of his works and he still somehow makes them quiver.

>>509555555
>>>/wsg/5915532

>>509556128
The true test of someone who's actually read Nietzsche. People to this day will come on /pol/ and tell us all about how "God is dead" but they never follow with ", and we have killed him". They fail to read between the lines and understand the critique and alarm bells he foresaw way before the third Reich even came about.

I find it funny triggering uninformed retards who don't even know his sister.

>>509556260
God is dead?!?!?

>>509556299
kek

>>509556185
Postmodernist abandonment of objective reality is in no way Nietzschean. I think (no offense) you are conflating postmodernist nihilism with the "nihilism" associated with Nietzsche. Nietzsche was a "nihilist" only in the sense that he was an atheist and thus believed there was no divine direction to anything and thus no divine or "natural" morality. But despite that, he loved humanity and wanted humanity to survive, grow, and flourish. He wanted not the "just do whatever you want" man made morality of the postmodernists, but moralities guided by the objective state of things that would improve man. This is really what he's talking about when he refers to the ubermench. He's not talking about a bigger/smarter/faster homo sapien, he's talking about an evolved form of man who can psychologically flourish with fully knowledge that the universe has no divine direction. Picrelated is a decent summary.

>>509553816
>>509554411
based and underrated posts

>>509556260
based as fuck

>>509555931
yeah he was a fan of the original ancient Greco-Roman culture as the true root of Western civilization but I think he seethed at Cuckstianity a little too hard, Greek philosophy, Roman law and the Roman Christian faith are the 3 tenets of Western civilization, without the faith it's not the proper Western civilization and the Romans had their gods too, and we cannot return to pagan bullshit anyhow. Also, the Church did a ton of immaterial good for the Western civilization acting as the endospore of the Roman Empire carrying its legacy through the Dark Ages, the Middle Ages and into modernity.
As such this opium for the masses is necessary and there's no reason to lament about cold hard Reality for so long, it's a dead-end. Nietzsche is also paradoxical because he attacks Christianity but at the same time laments the "death of God." It's nonsensical really, in the context of, what does Nietzsche really want? That's what I don't like about Nietzsche, it's a hodge-podge, he didn't have a clear idea about the world and just spammed in whatever inspiration he had at the moment.
Contrast this with Plato whose oeuvre is a total tour-de-force, consistent and self-contained. A masterpiece that the entire Western philosophy, including Nietzsche, are just a series of footnotes to.

Nietzsche did inspire me in two ways, one being the NPC-human (fully realized, full human with a soul) distinction, the other being a sort of categorization of the various "gods" or themes carrying the eras "after the death of God" though this is my work and not Nietzsche's:
>1. the Death of God in Nietzsche's understanding, as a historical moment and cultural awakening, can be pinpointed to the period between the French Revolution (1789), the Napoleonic Wars and the Congress of Vienna (1815)
>2. The era after the death of God is the era of Patriotism, the State was the Nation and fealty to it was the highest value, and not in the fascist sense. the Spring of Nations (1848) ended it

His teachings aren't for the masses to comprehend. Vast majority of people are born here as slaves just to serve the system = making people on top of The pyramid richer.

>>509556260
99% of people "know" about most philosophers entirely through third-hand memes. In fairness Nietzsche is one of the harder philosophers to read and often writes with extremely heavy irony. But yeah it's so obvious when unlettered people try to opine.

>>509556417
Except that's not what happened, when western society rejected the morality imposed by the church it just de-evolved into hedonism and liberalism . What Nietzsche proposes is too idealistic to work

>>509553536
Where? Hitler disliked him.

>>509556573
>3. between 1850 and 1918 the God of this period was Heroism in the Carlylean sense
>4. from 1918 to 1945 was the age of Nationalism, the Nation defined as the masses of the demos united by common roots was the true God of this age
and since 1945, nationalism is practically dead, and Hitler killed it. fukken germs, eh?
i can go on but fuck it

>>509556573
>A masterpiece that the entire Western philosophy, including Nietzsche, are just a series of footnotes to.
Come on now if you're going to quote Whitehead at least give him his attribution.

> it's a hodge-podge, he didn't have a clear idea about the world and just spammed in whatever inspiration he had at the moment.
This is actually a pretty fair critique, especially on Nietzsche's writings on the ubermensch and "actionable" ideas for the future. You should check out Spengler's Decline of the West; in it he has some excellent commentary on Nietzsche the quality of which I haven't found anywhere else. Even Kaufmann is second.

>>509556593
>unlettered people
Sounds like one of those entertaining californiaism like unhoused

>>509553356
>>509552762
You are right. Nietzsche spent his life chasing after three woman all of whom rejected him and he stayed in touch with all of them.
He was an incel but if not him then someone else would have said what he did. It all needed to be said because being a TRVCEL is part of the German sovl.

>>509552762
>He was syphilitic German incel
Note how this poster thinks German is an insult on par with "syphilitic" and "incel".

>>509556775
Which ones? I know about Lou Salome and his marriage proposals, that there were more is news to me.

>>509556593
It helps if your native tongue is German. I especially enjoyed reading Jung after I was done with Kant, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche. Arbeit macht frei, ne?

>>509556742
i think the best critique of Nietzsche (most accurate and the most succinct) is mine :) i think who Nietzsche was, was a failed poet. feels like what he really wanted to be was an artist, a poet, but he couldn't write proper poetry to save his life. tragic, really

>>509556631
Actually it's entirely in line with Nietzsche's predictions. He thought the collapse of religion would result in a period of hedonism/liberalism, after which people would pursue morals again.

>>509556205
What gets under their skin is how Nietzsche rightly wrote off the church as a dead man walking. Plenty of people before him have criticized Christianity, some far far more viciously, but few have more accurately described the decline and impending death of the Church. It hits too close to home, Christendom is dying a slow death and on some level they all know it.

And the funny thing is the culprit is the Christians themselves. In the wake of the Protestant Reformation, Catholics and Protestants have done more criticism and tearing down of Christian theology and dogma than all of the non-Christian critics put together. The wars of religion in Europe and the constant violent bickering over dogma led to the development and rise of secular society, a phenomenon previously unheard of in human history. Secularism would not exist if Christianity wasn't so prone to violent and excessive schisms.

>>509557043
btw, the entire philosophy of nietzsche was summed up before he was even born by the great Polish national poet Adam Mickiewicz who was even a bit occultist, in this 1832 piece, perfectly recited in 1989
it's called the Great Improvisation and in it the poet even directly throws a challenge to God himself, that the great poet is equal to God. look up a good translation if there is one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGkY9oPfAzo

>>509557043
Well then you are a retard. There's nothing to suggest Nietzsche wanted to write poetry. He was a classicist until his ideas split with conventional academic views at the time and he left his professorship to do philosophy on his own time. The various "songs" in Thus Spoke Zarathustra could be considered poetry I suppose, but of course you didn't try to criticize them because 1, they're perfectly good, and 2, you didn't know they exist.

>>509556631
>What Nietzsche proposes is too idealistic to work
I won't pretend to fully understand or endorse his ideas but wasn't his idea that of an awakened elite with an inner everlasting well of ambition that lords over niggercattle with no real regard for altruistic values like truth or empathy other than as far as they are useful to coopt as tools in their agenda, and having this elite be more or less a closed circle that only has basic considerations towards its own i.e. exactly what's happening now and more or less always has been in a lot of ways? I was never under the impression that everyone was supposed to become an overman nor that everyone even could, same as Stirner said that not everyone can fully liberate himself from all spooks, but everyone should as far as they are able, if they know how

>>509557244
you should try some poetry. maybe learn a language or two (english poetry sucks, sorry, not a fan of blankverse, however ofc, the English, rhyming Shakespeare is the GOAT)

>>509557428
Lol busted. He actually did work on a collection of poems, the Dionysian Dithyrambs. But you couldn't call me out on it because you didn't know that either.

>>509552644 (OP)
>Was he the Antichrist?
He was the Uberchrist

>>509557275
If you're saying that what Nietzsche dreamed about was a group of rich capitalist degenerate Jews with no morals or empathy ruining humanity for more money and power then I must say, that's pretty bleak.

>>509557275
He simply wasn't clear on proposing an actual, concrete future. His analysis of history is phenomenal but he absolutely was vague when it came to looking forward.

>>509557623
My impression isn't that he specifically had that in mind, just the general format of people with an undying inner drive who make their own rules and don't measure their actions by what's good or evil in general as much as they do by what is good or bad for them and their goals. Whether it's judeobankers, machiavellian politicians or what have you doesn't particularly matter.
>>509557750
He was vague enough on what an overman is or ought to be that it still doesn't intuitively make simple sense to me. I can describe it in other people's words or repeat his own words but it still doesn't help spark a miniature simulation in my head of what the overman is, like the idea of a christian saint might, or even Rand's Capitalism Man. It might be a skill issue on my end.

>>509555931
>if you attack jews you attack christians

He is right, he is a crypto kike.

>>509552644 (OP)
>inspires the Nazis to start a war that kills millions of whites

How? He was a huge Jew lover and openly admitted that he wasn't even German but Polish. NatSoc were classical Liberals? Treaty of Versailles imposed on Germany by US, Britain and France, creation of Weimar Republic and Bolshevik revolution inspired German revanchism as response to it

>>509555446
Kiddo, the better part of my students had their first contact with moral philosophy through Nietzsche, despite the fact that the curriculum of the government schools doesn't even mention him (it bores the kids to death with oversimplified Plato and Aristotle) and the government-funded mass propaganda media slander him as "controversial" and "nazi", given they mention him at all.

Men like you are more inclined to read success literature along the lines of "The billionaire mindset: How to manifest 100 million dollars in twelve easy steps" and that's perfectly okay, everyone has different gifts and talents, everyone has a place in our diverse society.

>>509557850
Nazism was the ultimate useful goy ideology

>>509555635
Not really, he just hated christcucks for for submitting to slave morality. Christianity is the most gynocentric religion ever to exist, despite the thin layer of token misogyny sprinkled on top of it.
A religion that promotes "doing no wrong" as it's highest virtue and promotes forgiveness(the worst sin imaginable) is tailor made for a society that exists to provide for jews and women so they extract and consume it's produce. Forgive that whore, anon. Marry that busted cunt and then be discarded because biological fathers don't matter, only GOD(the establishment) matters.

>>509557823
I explain it as a psychologically evolved form of man who was capable of embracing and thriving in a meaningless and eternally recurring universe through by amor fati.

>>509557897
Neo-nazis aren't really useful, they are mostly useless politically, except when they are backed by Feds or CIA. Liberals are much more useful goys.

>>509556879
how he get syphilis as incel?

>>509557917
based master morality enjoyer

>>509557844
You obviously think Christianity is a counterpoint or critique to Judaism; obviously you are a Christian. Nietzsche understood Christianity it as an outgrowth of Judaism, a way for Jews to avenge themselves against classical Greco-Roman civilization.

Like the previous anon you obviously haven't read Nietzsche at all, he absolutely and directly excoriates Jews and Judaism on this point.

>>509557506
no, im saying precisely that his songs and everything that he wrote is failed poetry. it's downright embarrassing, in fact

>>509557985
Neo nazism has nothing to do with the original nazism that achieved nothing except killing millions of white Europeans, staining nationalism forever and getting jews their own country and a thousand laws against criticizing them. Hitler is the most useful goy in history

>>509557917
Christianity comes from the merchant cities, the folk wisdom comes from the country. Always been like that. The urbanization of the rural regions was the end of western civilization. It poisoned every last village with Christian pedohomo degeneracy.

>>509557850
Another non-Nietzsche reader. Nietzsche's criticism of antisemites is based on his observation that since these antisemites - being overwhelming Christian - had failed to grasp that their own religion was fundamentally Jewish, they were idiots.

>>509552644 (OP)
If you find Nietzsche incomprehensible you're retarded.

>>509557897
No, that would actually be christcuckery.

>>509557213
>>509557428
>>509557506
>>509558095
here, have a look at some good poetry
https://tarnawsky.artsci.utoronto.ca/rescentre/slavic/ukr/Sla-Civil/Forefathers%20Eve,%20part%203%20(Potocki).pdf
(page 10/92 of the pdf it starts)
(the great improvisation starts on page 31/92)

>>509558189
Buy an ad

>>509558124
Look up the episcopal church, they literally invented feminism, the entire ideology is built around demonizing male sexuality and sidelining fathers. It's the precursor ideology to feminism, which was divorcing and betraying the male to monkey branch into a better deal with the establishment.

>>509558234
no, i'm just showing you what's good poetry and what's Nietzsche, as it were

>>509558103
Exactly this. It's even more ridiculous when you consider the various holocaust narratives. Hitler was a genius who fought the Jewish conspiracy by building summer camps for them and then bombing white people?

>>509558103
>>509558327
Forgot pic

>>509558294
Also woketardism is merely the secular afterbirth of christcuckery.

>Nietzsche
>Niet
>Neet
Checks out

Christianity's entire purpose was the dissolution of National/Racial identity & replacing it w/ belief/obedience to a foreign Jewish religion/God who hates gentiles and who wants to destroy us & our Nations.

Christians have always gone easy on Jews. Jews survived and often thrived in Christian Europe.

Pagans destroyed both Jerusalem temples. Christians are helping Jews rebuild the Third Temple.

Paganism and Judaism are opposites. Christianity is “Judaism for Gentiles.”

>>509558327
Hitler acted in self-defense against the Jewish aggression. You don't seem to know that it was the Brits and the French who declared war on Germany.

>>509558417
yeah it's called an alliance with Poland
in WW1 on the other hand you invaded Belgium and then France completely out of the blue, and their allies were forced to declare war on you likewise. pretty simple and the most basic and ancient of international laws

This pretty much ends the argument. Christianity is as Jewish as it gets.

>>509558006
His mother had to have been a white fir that to happen.

>>509558498
watch Mel Gibson's Passion to see just how "jewish" it is, fool
it's anti-Jewish at its very core. the redpill is that Judaism was just a local d&c project of Cyrus the Great (the only goy extolled as the Anointed or Messiah by the jews, btw) and then Christianity was fostered as the local d&c project of the Roman security forces

>>509552644 (OP)
>Was he the Anti-Christ
Why are eurpoors repeating millennist views on Revelation when that is mostly our cucked version of Christianity?

>Nietzche failed to be an ubermensch that means he was wrong
An autistic savant may solve complex math problems, that doesn't mean they won't die pissing and shitting in homelessness without a tard wrangler.

This is the same sort of retard criticism as people going "Lol Ayn Rand you're a fucking women and a dumb bitch you'd lose at objectivism which you'd invented"
Not to say Objectivism isn't trash, but that type of ad hominem is full retard.

Of course Rand knew she couldn't survive in a world that abided by her own dumb ideas, Nietzsche is no different (Except his ideas weren't particularly retarded). Just because he wasn't Ubermensch, does not discredit the phenomenon.

Guy observed the essence of might makes right but framed it in way that can make it positive.
It basically spits on the notion that if a militant atheist fascist bulldozed every church in Romania but brought upon you 100 years of prosperity, that he would still fail because muh jesus would intervene or whatever gay shit you think denies the ultimate reality of how the world works.

>>509558417
>Hitler acted in self-defense against the Jewish aggression
Ok let's say that's true. And his solution was to build summer camps for them? Read the book I posted. he wasn't just acting against aggression by others, he actively wanted to conquer and destroy his white neighbors. He even attended the funeral of Kurt Eisner, the Jewish communist who tried his own putsch. And originally allied with the USSR (controlled by bolshevik Jews of course) to divide up Poland. Hitler was a useful idiot, and maybe the worst thing to happen to whites in history.

>>509558622
Christianity is a seriously underestimated problem.

Its the biggest psyop out in the open. One of the things Christians have been programmed with is that they oppose the New World Order / One World Government but they ARE the NWO. Christianity and Islam are the Noahide Globohomo cult followers and jews are the priest class that leads their global cult.

Jesus was more like the George Floyd of Rome.

Christianity is a goyim seditious cult created to destroy unique ethnic religions around the world and incorporate them into the globohomo system.
The same goes for Communism.

>>509558712
Nietzsche's philosophy isn't something abstract about the nature of humanity but intended, by him, to be a guide on how humanity can save itself, which is what makes it perplexing that he preaches about strength when he ended up dying as an invalid and a loser.

>>509552644 (OP)
ehrmugurd look at all those big words,
it's incompre incom it's so hard

>>509558006
I recall reading somewhere he had some bizarre threeway relationship with a wife and her husband, or some such shit.
I certainly hope they were spitroasting her and Friedrich wasn't sucking some cock or anything

Not from the tree of Eden comes my power; not
From knowledge of good and evil, is it got,
Not from books nor tales nor dreams
Nor yet from solving themes,
No, not from magic schemes!
I am creator born! I bore themMypowers spring from that same shrine
Whence Thou, God, drewest Thine!

>>509558863
I bet this has nothing to do with the fact that he couldn't get laid without paying for prostitutes despite being a wealthy man in the 19th century

>>509558924
this is 1832 btw. Mickiewicz. a Polack
nietzsche sucks, sorry. but i get why he thought himself a Polish nobleman later in life

>>509558925
Look at women today anon. Was his opinion inaccurate?

>>509558789
Literally the penultimate threat to us in 2025. If the so-called revival they seem to be pushing for in the usa goes through then that's lights out on our demographic replacement.

>>509558480
>yeah it's called an alliance with Poland
Which they signed for no reason at all, right?
>you invaded Belgium and then France
I never invaded anyone. Stop taking drugs.

>>509558988
>>509558789
shut the fuck up, retards, Christianity is a Roman psyop but it's NECESSARY for the Western civilization to survive
it's the only plausible way for us to stay connected to our Roman roots. this is the mature viewpoint. your total rebellion is juvenile

>>509558725
I'm not going to read your fanfic book. Buy an ad.

>>509558925
>get laid
When you need some electrical work done do you go around befriending men until some turn out to be electricians and then smooth talk until one of them does it for free or do you just pay a professional because you want a job done immediately and correctly?

>>509559036
Christianity destroyed Rome and it's going to destroy western civilization. Everything the west achieved, it achieved despite being burdened with Christianity.

The German Scholars (who were the best in the world at that time) discovered that Christianity was a Con Job, (A Goyim Scam) designed by Hebrew Rabbis, using Saul of Tarsus' letters as the core teaching.

Pretty much all top level national socialists deeply despised Christianity, as they knew it was just a kike vehicle, but soon realized that the absolute majority of Germans were way too used to it for it being removed and replaced by something better in a timely manner.

So they dropped this attempt like a hot potato.

>>509559036
>Christianity is a Roman psyop
It was literally a Jewish psyop *against* Rome.
> it's NECESSARY for the Western civilization to survive
Everything "cultural" people think of when they think of European Christianity (St. Peter's, the Sistine Chapel, etc.) is entirely of the Renaissance, that is to say Greco-Roman.
>it's the only plausible way for us to stay connected to our Roman roots
It's literally the opposite of that.

>>509558622
If Christianity was anti-Jewish at its core then Christendom would have destroyed the Jews a long time ago rather than merely spanking them for being naughty and exiling them. Christendom refuses to destroy the Jews because they keep trying to convert the Jews to win the theological pissing contest over their shared mythology. Christians are locked in a never-ending "carrot and stick" cycle with the Jews. During the carrot part of the cycle they soften their stance, allow them into their nations, and extend them goodwill in order to attempt to covert them. Of course the Jews never fail to abuse the trust of the Christians during the carrot phase and employ usury to defraud the public and worm their way into positions of power. Christians only enter the stick phase after Jews have caused so much trouble that their perfidy can no longer be ignored and finally exile the Jews from their lands and wax poetic about how much they hate the Jews after the fact. But no matter how much damage the Jews do, they get to live and there is always a next time because Christians never truly learn.

>>509559008
we had an alliance with France from the beginning but it faltered at times as during the Great Depression France started increasingly looking positively to the Soviet Union
the United Kingdom was appeasing your treaty-breaking dumbasses until it had enough, we had previously been imploring them for an alliance for years, the UK signed the guarantee ONLY in March 1939. very late. what was the immediate context? Hitler's annexation of Czechoslovakia, tearing up the already-disgraceful Munich agreement completely

this is elementary history. i wonder what they teach in german schools? muh versailles, poor poor germs, hitler popular in response, WW2 & then Schindler's List? hahaha

>>509558800
>Observe how might makes right
>"This is how this can be used to be a good thing!"
What exactly is the issue? It's supposed to instill the essence of desirable leadership based on the observation of how leadership tends to happen.

>>509559050
Cope. I get rejecting mainstream historical narratives (they certainly deserve it), but you're jumping to the opposite dialectical position and embracing Hitler, not because he was correct, but because he represents the antithesis of the (indeed lying) mainstream.

>>509559206
By his own logic he wasn't right because he was weak

>>509559036
Catholicism preserved the roman religion in basically most of its traditions that make prots seethe.
All you need to do is remove the Christian parts. Roman State theology is the most in-tact strain of roman paganism because it exists within catholithism.

>>509559131
Many of them adored Islam, because it shields a man's mind against Jewish subversion and promotes strength where Jewish Christianity promotes cowardice and submission. Both Hitler and Himmler understood the immense potential that Islam has to offer to the Aryan race.

>>509559036
Pre-Christcuck Rome was the West's peak. The last time we were truly free with a noble spirituality at our base.

>>509559274
Nietzsche was writing about intellectual and psychological strength not physical strength. Do you really think his thesis was for bodybuilders should run everything?

>>509559250
Remember what the nice doctor lady told you about your secret mind-reading super powers. They're not real, you drooling retard. I'm not going to read your retarded summer camp fanfiction. Buy an ad.

>>509559111
Rome was destroyed in the Crisis of the Third Century already, and this crisis caused Christianity's popularity to skyrocket as Roman institutions completely collapsed during that crisis and the citizens had nothing else to rely on, the Christian church found them in their hour of need
you're just repeating the retarded myth of Gibbon's
>>509559139
Rome crushed the Jews, what fucking jewish psyop? the jews wanted Christianity crushed! elementary history. the only reason it survived is because Romans kept it up, and you can analyze the reasons why, in my opinion the immediate practical political reason was as a d&c weakening THE JEWS, delegitimizing the "second temple" (the first and only temple in truth, the first temple is a myth, Cyrus the Great created Judaism from heterogenous unformalized so-called Yahwist beliefs of the divided goat herders of the ancient Israeli interior to separate that interior from the non-ancestral coast controlled by the Phoenicians and Philisitines), especially when the temple got REKT in AD 70

>>509559274
People still talk about him. Again. Pick a better mode of attack.
Did you know that there are doctors that smoke and are fat?

>>509559391
>Rome crushed the Jews
https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/francis-chronicles/pope-francis-inside-every-christian-jew

>>509552644 (OP)
This dude never worked a day in his life, he lived like a trust fund kid in a time when people had to work themselves to death just to eat.

>>509558925
In Naumburg they have to clean his statue 4 times a day, from all the women climbing up on him to get a selfie riding his mustache.
Even in death he gets more pussy in a month, than you will your whole life.

>>509559537
What I find funny is village he is from doesn't even have a street named after him, though.

>>509559391
Christianity was a top down conversion in Rome.

>>509559142
even the Romans didn't genocide the Jews, what you preach is pure barbarism and you're surprised that Christianity is the religion of the Western civilization LOL

>>509559525
Idiot, he was literally the Chair of Classical Philology at the University of Basel, the youngest person to ever hold the position.
I get that you probably have no comprehension of his works but at least get information you can find on Wikipedia or ChatGPT correct.

>>509556879
They sure do hate germans and whites in general . Theres actually a community of israelis who spam here routinely. I have no idea how its setup

>>509559585
>even the Romans didn't genocide the Jews
There is no way you're actually this stupid. You have to be trolling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt

>>509559576
It was absolutely bottom up until there were so many converts that Constantine imposed a state-friendly version in 325.

>>509559383
Do you really think one excludes the other? As Marx said: "Social existence determines consciousness." A physically weak man perceives the world from the perspective of the eternal prey, the eternal fuck toy, the rat, the snitch, the thief, the pervert, the sniveling coward. A physically weak man doesn't settle his disputes with his own power. He flatters and lies like a woman, he hides behind the power of stronger man. A physically weak philosopher is a philosopher of cowardice, a physically weak king is a king of cowards. Never trust the words of a weak man. His principles are as weak as his body.

>>509559300
Islam doesn't shield a man's mind against Jewish subversion, it just makes one arrogant enough to think he can be master of the Jew. Islam demands that Jews accept dhimmi status and bow down but Jews are too subversive to ever be good subjects. Islam is a much more "legalistic" religion than Christian and much like Judaism the letter of the law matters more than the spirit of the law. Jews famously employed pilpul to use loopholes in Islamic law to shield themselves from justice in Islamic society and sucked up to the richest Muslims while robbing poor Muslims and Christian dhimmis blind. These people were a plague upon the commonfolk within the Ottoman Empire.

Hitler and Himmler were both guilty of foolish romanticizing Islam.

Jews hate him because of the things he said about women. Even though most jews are queers, gays, and or trannies, their religion makes them worship their mother.
They didn't even read what he said, their mothers told them to hate him and here they are.

>>509559740
>Nietzsche was writing about the intellectual/psychological strength
"NO! That doesn't exclude the physical!"
>Uh ok then so he was also writing about physical strength?
"NO! Nietzsche was physically weak so he was a loser who couldn't value physical strength!"

Which is it?

>>509559863
Oh, you're just talking to yourself. Don't let me interrupt you then.

>>509559559
white replacement, his town was slaughtered

>>509559585
Hadrian tried and if his subordinates and successors had the stomach to do what was necessary we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>what you preach is pure barbarism
The death of every Jewish man, woman and child is NECESSARY for us to not go through this stupid cycle of Jewish manipulation and abuse again. How many more times does the Jew need to fuck your people in the ass for you to learn? How many more cycles of carrot and stick do we need to go through? When does it end?

It ends when someone finally has the sense to put their entire rat culture in the grave.

>>509559719
It was an annoying bottom minority and then top down. Rome did not convert to Christianity easily. It was a political move, not unlike Akhenaten's attempt to force Egypt under seemingly monotheistic worship of Aten.

>>509559771
Islam is just as Abrahamic and cucked as Judaism. Islam sees Jews as "people of the book", consider Abraham and Jesus and legitimate prophets. The only difference is they have an open hostility to western civilization whereas Jewish hostility is covert. It's another desert cult that preaches circumcision.

>>509559494
who the fuck cares about francis? i celebrated when that old commie fuck died. as did most Polish Catholics (well maybe not celebrated but breathed a sigh of relief)

>>509559957
>It was an annoying bottom minority
>>509559719
>>509559576
>Christianity was a top down conversion in Rome.
nope. Constantine converted because most of his legionnaires were Christian. perhaps Maxentius's legionnaires weren't so Christian, but that's irrelevant

>>509559740
>a physically weak king is a king of cowards
Monstrously retarded take. A king delegates and it's his job to use his discernment skills to find people who are good at things he isn't good at, and people who are even better than him at things he is good at, and tie their abilities together into an efficient whole. The admirability of strength (or at least good physical health) is ingrained into the human psyche but it doesn't mean that Commodus, the hobbyist street brawler, was a better or braver Emperor than his father, the frail opium addicted cuckold Marcus Aurelius. Get it together man.

>>509559656
by genocide i mean wipe out completely or at least the half of the lot. you propose wiping them out completely and dislike Christianity because it disagrees with such barbarity kek

the Romans favorite punishment was decimation, the removal of 10% of a group

>>509559957
Rome has never been Christian once.
The Romans crucified Jesus, dummy.

>>509552644 (OP)
löl

>>509559984
Jesus is recognized as the coming Messiah in Islam. Jews think non-jesus messiah will come save them, if they can piss off the world, and get 7 nations to rise against them. Non jesus from planet p will then give every jew 2800 african slaves as promised in the Talmud

>>509558789
Watch this, I think it's right up your alley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vWnKwF7ZsE

>>509560030
>Doubt
Also that would be a political move.

>>509552644 (OP)
>still makes midwits seethe over 100 years later
he must have been doing something right

>>509560300
This looks very interesting anon any other resources you recommend on natural law?

>>509559934
>The death of every Jewish man, woman and child is NECESSARY for us to not go through this stupid cycle of Jewish manipulation and abuse again. How many more times does the Jew need to fuck your people in the ass for you to learn? How many more cycles of carrot and stick do we need to go through? When does it end?
nah, all that's necessary is for every self-declared jew to go the FUCK back to Israel, for everyone who says no to drop the double loyalty FOREVER, and lastly to not give a fuck about anything that Israel says or wants

problem solved

>>509559036
>NECCESSARY
>I think there is a resurgence of anti-christianity because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be gynocentric. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the patriarchal societies they once were in the last century. Christians are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a gynocentric mode and Christians will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will NOT survive.

>>509559312
>Pre-Christcuck Rome was the West's peak. The last time we were truly free with a noble spirituality at our base.
idk man, we Poles are pretty free and pretty noble :^)

>>509560482
i feel, i hope, that there is a resurgence of Roman Catholicism
militant atheism is definitely dead so im not sure why you think there's a resurgence of anti-christianity

only on /pol/ maybe but only due to the specific local /pol/ brainrot which includes mudslimes & other shitskin thirdworldist spamming the fuck out of this board since 10/7

>>509555931
>>509558144
You do realize that anti-semitism mostly comes from the Christian perspective, right? They are hated for rejecting Jesus, not for rejecting Jupiter.

>>509560573
>i hope
That's all you have. Your kike female religion and your women demoralized the western male beyond any hope of recovery, they're in a downward spiral of nihilism.

>>509554897
those prostitutes gave him gonorrhea and diarrhea

>>509556158
the mutt doesn't know about the aoc being 10-11 in almost all of amerishartia before the 20th century lmao

>>509560573
lmao everybody hates catholics
even the catholics hat catholics
self-hate is built into the cult

>>509557917
>pic
Shouldn't you consider Jesus based because he was teaching this to Jews?

>>509560441
You're painfully naive. You could exile all the little fucks to Israel, seal the borders and lock them tight and you would have peace and freedom from subversion, but only for a time. Christians would invite them in again in a few decades to take a fresh stab at converting them and helping them "see the light". And even if the Christians didn't get their way, or better yet Europe shrugged off Christianity for good, it would just take a lot longer for people to grow lax in their senses and the Jews would get their chance to start trouble all over again. They don't quit, their entire culture is rooted in parasitism and hatred for the rest of mankind, they will never ever ever stop until the rest of the world is ruined and enslaved by them. Until they're wiped out or we're all negrified slaves, this dance will never end.

>>509560795
where did those jews go to spread the gospel? whose women ended up being nuns instead of marrying?

>>509560573
>Hope for resurgence
First off catholics are majority brown right now, that's not good for (you).
Second off, the most powerful brand of christian in the world right now, unfortunately, is in my country.

Dispensationalist evangelicals, who believe in end time prophecies requiring zionism to take place.
This if anything, has been a major blow to Christianity in an era where people are starting to loath jews and it's obvious the non-dispensationalist Christians like Catholics or Lutherans aren't doing jack fucking shit.

>>509560861
>where did those jews go to spread the gospel?
Many in countries you'd consider "sandniggers".
>whose women ended up being nuns instead of marrying?
Are you now saying that the problem of Christianity is the low birth rates or something? LMAO

>>509560717
Additionally, all deviant sex acts like blowjobs and buttsex were felony crimes.

>>509560618
>You do realize that anti-semitism mostly comes from the Christian perspective
Yes, and this is exactly why Nietzsche thought antisemites were idiots. Clearly (at least from Nietzsche's analysis of history) Christianity was the fruit of a Jewish tree. You have to understand (and Nietzsche is explicit about this) that Christianity the religion had almost nothing to do with Jesus the historical person. Were it not for Paul Christianity would have died on the cross. Christianity, the organized religion was a fabrication by Paul as an instrument against the Romans. Nietzsche writes about this in the Antichrist chapter 40 and the subsequent chapters. In Nietzsche's analysis, modern Christians also reject Jesus - they embrace Paul.

>>509560717
A sitting US President married a 13 year old in the white house. It's public record, it was in the newspapers, everyone knows.
Do Romanians still sell their daughters to the highest bidder. Feminists were screaming about it still taking place in 2000

>>509561000
>(at least from Nietzsche's analysis of history) Christianity was the fruit of a Jewish tree
Saul of Tarsus himself in one of his scribblings calls christianity a branch that was grafted onto the jew tree. Romans 11 according to the googling machine.

>>509561000
>>509561134
No Christian (except copers on /pol/) argues that Christianity has nothing to do with Jews. Christians hate Jews for rejecting their own Messiah.
>Christianity, the organized religion was a fabrication by Paul as an instrument against the Romans.
Against paganism, you mean? Why should that concern Christians?
>In Nietzsche's analysis, modern Christians also reject Jesus - they embrace Paul.
I fail to see how one excludes the other.

>>509560917
>Are you now saying that the problem of Christianity is the low birth rates or something? LMAO
Partly, I blame female nature and women as a whole, Christianity and feminism is just a written form of their misandrist nature.
The precursor ideology to feminism and the ideology that eventually evolved to SPAWN feminism. What do they have in common?
>chastising male sexuality
>promoting "doing no harm" as a virtue
>rejecting their families and fathers for the establishment
>forgiveness(guess who benefits the most from this)

It's also eerily similar to the jewish gynocentric family model. Jewish males after hadrian were basically 100% disposable trash, thugs, mercenaries, tax collectors the role of jewish males, up until this very day is to serve as a front, when blowback comes their way, jewish males will take the hit because when you think of jews, you think of weird looking men with beards. Meanwhile they women went out to collect european genetic material and the disposable, divorced jewish male cuckold paid for it's upkeep. That's how they've acquired this distinct near European appearance.

Judaism, Christianity = male disposability, misandry and parasitism

>>509561134
The connotations in Romans 11 are are subtly but critically different. Paul is preaching that the true people of god are are now a totally discrete and new people, separate and in no way related to the Jews who, incidentally, happened to be god's previous chosen people prior to the new covenant. So he's answering the question, "Are all Jews screwed then?" by saying no, *some of us*, incidentally, can be grafted onto this new tree as converts who "accept Christ".

What Nietzsche is arguing is quite different: that Paul/Saul's new Christianity is in fact a nearly linear continuation of Judaism not merely in some theological sense, but in a psychological/behavioral/cultural sense.

>>509561347
Christianity doesn't have nuns, dummy
Catholics aren't Christians

have another dead jew pic

why do chuds hate nietzsche, but love the literal jewess ayn rand who said essentially the same things?

>>509555555
Checked

>>509561400
>Paul/Saul's new Christianity is in fact a nearly linear continuation of Judaism not merely in some theological sense, but in a psychological/behavioral/cultural sense.
I have to disagree extremely hard. Paul created christianity by differentiating it from mainstream judaism to the point of establishing it as an independent religion. There was fierce opposition from judaizer apostles and this pissed enough people off that even to this day accusations persist of him having been a jewish agent sent to force enough theological differences that mainstream jews would no longer be tempted to convert, and that a part of goyifying the regulations (making circumcision optional, allowing pork and generally abandoning old micromanagerial legalism for a more faith and love based approach) was a huge part of that. Without Saul watering everything down to appeal to a mainstream audience, Christianity would have been exactly that continuation.

>>509561578
Because they haven't read either.

>>509561347
Mostly schizo reply, but I'll engage anyway.
>chastising male sexuality
Ok, sexuality is completely liberal now and no one is chastised. Wat nou? Oh yeah. Now we got cucks and incels. Maybe nature is even more gynocentric than Abrahamic religion ever was? Hmm, I wonder.
>>promoting "doing no harm" as a virtue
This is a good model for a stable society. Would you rather live in a nation-wide black hood morality?
>>rejecting their families and fathers for the establishment
Christianity definitely wasn't an establishment when this was going on. It started as a fringe religion and probably never expected to grow dominant.
>>forgiveness(guess who benefits the most from this)
Your neighbour?

>>509561576
that woman had undesirable features that jews are trying to shed, no wonder she ended up as gutter trash

>>509561576
Protestants are a joke. Christianity didn't exist until the 16th century. Clowns.

>>509561400
Jesus specifically told his disciples don't talk to certain people, they can not be saved. He said spread the word of God to those who will listen, if you enter a village, and they don't want to hear move on. Do not go to the Gentiles or the Samaritans, it's a waste of breath, they are cursed like the jews.

>>509552644 (OP)
How the fuck do you even eat with that stupid moustache?

>>509561621
>Paul created christianity by differentiating it from mainstream judaism to the point of establishing it as an independent religion.
Yes I think that's indisputable. What Nietzsche was saying is that, in spite of these exoteric and very real theological differences (indeed significant enough to be another religion), the underlying psychology was at work. How did the pharisees see themselves politically/psychologically vis-a-vis the Romans? Their position was that of slave morality (and had been ever before Roman conquest). Be humble, revenge/judgement is the is the lord's, just wait two more weeks for the messiah, etc.What was the Christian perspective here? Essentially the same. And why did Saul launch this whole project to begin with (Nietzsche argues)? To undermine the Romans.

>>509561635
>sexuality is completely liberal now and no one is chastised.
Are you actually this fucking dumb? That's the point, female choice enforced by the establishment -> barely any male gets anything while the resources they produced are still extracted. The modern male is paying for the offspring of others through institutionalized cuckoldry. You exist in a legal and societal framework that exists to serve the jewish female above all.

>>509561876
So does that not imply that Judaism is self-destructive and that Jews willingly hurt themselves with their religion?

>>509561903
When has that happened under a non-secular Christian state? You're desperate to apply the faults of secular post-modernity to ever weakest (in the West) Christianity.

>>509561806
Jews would have you believe that all non-jews are Gentiles, which is retarded. Read "the book of Gentiles" it's in the bible. yoos can be desidin fo yoself ifin yooos be a gentile.

>>509561985
I'm not sure I follow your question. How are you saying the Judaism hurt itself in this context?

>>509562077
Christianity is just Judaism continued, both slave religions that make the populace weak. Paul used it to undermine Rome, but didn't then Jews undermine themselves with Judaism?

>>509562147
Not really, first because if Christianity is Jewish than even if it triumphs over "old Judaism" it's still just Judaism living on in a new form, and second because just look at how things have actually played out wit most Christians today; they practically worship Jews. The quote from Francis I posted earlier is a good example. Another would be the overwhelming support for Jews and Israel among American Protestants.

>>509561985
name one Christian state where the scenario I described is not playing out in real time, right now. Name ANY state, Christian or not. Women are the biggest problem and they the great filter of humanity, these religions are just tools that enable them. Only the rational man with common sense can ever hope to put an end to this. Any unnatural morality and fantasies that legitimize them end up serving the female and the human female is an anti-life evolutionary failure that we just have to deal with. Keep enabling women and you will most definitely go extinct.

>>509552644 (OP)
No, and Also Sprach Zarathustra actually makes some very valid points, which puts him into the top 1% of philosophers. 99% were and are talking out of their ass.

>>509561985
In the book of Genesis... Noah did not stutter when he talked about his son Shem's god.
There is no mistaking the fact that he was referring to another god, and not his own God.
Mind you, Noah's youngest son Ham, had just castrated Noah so he was angry when he said these things. "Anger cannot lie" when you are angry, ego shuts down and you can only speak truth. Noah asks God to bless the god of Shem

>>509562367
>Not really, first because if Christianity is Jewish than even if it triumphs over "old Judaism" it's still just Judaism living on in a new form
Not what I was asking. Christianity and Judaism are both bad for being slave religions, yet Jews had no dilemma about militantly protecting their slave religion. Why did they do that while also "undermining" Rome with their supposedly destructive religion?
>and second because just look at how things have actually played out wit most Christians today; they practically worship Jews
Looks like waiting (two thousand years!) paid off. Finally Judea is avenged. Or maybe the world is finally secular enough and even Vatican can be infiltrated.
>Another would be the overwhelming support for Jews and Israel among American Protestants.
Protestants are clay to be shaped in any form you want. You can use the "no true scotsman here", but it's generally understood that Christianity is Catholicism/Orthodoxy (both is actually Catholicism and the latter is even formally called the Orthodox Catholic Church).

>>509560573
militant atheism didn't kill christianity
shopping malls did

>>509562512
What verse are you referring to?

>>509562411
>name one Christian state where the scenario I described is not playing out in real time, right now
There isn't any Christian state anymore, silly. How can you still blame Christianity for fruits of secularism? And what makes you think the alternative (assuming you're shilling paganism) wouldn't have died the same death?

>>509561686
>Protestants are a joke.
1st Protestants or the 2nd

>>509562666
You have nothing in common with Orthodoxy, Catholics have most things.

>>509562633
In the Book of Genesis, the curse of Ham is described as a curse which was imposed upon Ham's son Canaan by the patriarch Noah. It occurs in the context of Noah's drunkenness and it is provoked by a shameful act that was perpetrated by Noah's son Ham, who "saw the nakedness of his father". The exact nature of Ham's transgression and the reason Noah cursed Canaan when Ham had sinned have been debated for over 2,000 years.

God promised Noah that no harm would come to those aboard the ark. Noah's sons knew that they would be given land after the flood receded. Ham was greedy, and wanted more land for himself. On the ark, Ham had tried to kill his brothers, poisoning, and throwing them overboard. Each time he failed, because God protected them, as he had promised Noah.
After the flood Noah announced that he wanted to have a 4th son. This infuriated Ham he wasn't happy splitting the world 3 ways with his brothers, splitting it 4 ways would mean even less. Ham got Noah drunk, and when Noah was sleeping, Ham went into his tent and castrated Noah.
Shem and Japheth went backwards into the tent, to avoid seeing Noah naked, and bandaged Noah's wound.


When Noah awoke he knew what his youngest son had done to him.
Genesis 9:24-27

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Canaan was Ham's 4th son. Because Ham had prevented Noah from having a 4th son, Ham's 4th son was cursed with blackness.

>>509561876
>in spite of these exoteric and very real theological differences (indeed significant enough to be another religion), the underlying psychology was at work
Valid point. It was only last year that I realized that, after having called new world protestants lunatics all my life, they're actually the purest form of christianity, especially evangelicals. Roman Catholicism is somewhat tempered by all the old traditions that it had absorbed and subverted to the point that in many ways it's jesus themed paganism. Nowdays though it makes no difference, for a vast majority christianity is as trivial of a trait as their favorite brand of cereal.

>>509562605
>yet Jews had no dilemma about militantly protecting their slave religion
Read that again. "Militantly protecting." Master moralities don't merely protect, they conquer. Jewish military imagination (even among the actual Zealots) ended with dreams of expelling the Romans. The idea of conquering them by force never occurred to them. Why? Slave morality.
>Looks like waiting (two thousand years!) paid off. Finally Judea is avenged.
Yes. This is exactly why Nietzsche argues that Saul's ideas was so brilliant. Though of course not brilliant in a "positive" way.
>it's generally understood that Christianity is Catholicism/Orthodoxy
This is absolutely untrue, and it certainly wasn't true for Nietzsche. He wrote extensively (in the same work) about how the Protestant Reformation revitalized Christianity when it (fortunately, in Nietzsche's view) was on the verge of collapse.

>>509562647
>shilling paganism
Only empiricism, nothing else. Observation, acknowledgement of reality as it is, no averting your eyes and no coping with existential dread and most definitely NO WAITING FOR SAVIOR FIGURES TO DEAL WITH YOUR PROBLEMS.
Do that and you will once again be pure, an animal with human intelligence.

No, it just means that he moat likely wrote things that got under your skin, you got scared and the natural reaction to being scared is trying to fight it.
In your case fight with baseless accusations and try to make it a crusade and involve faith in everything

>>509561876
how do you explain the maccabees and zealots

>>509562859
See my earlier comment >>509562834
Jewish militarism ended with reactionary defense. Conquering other nations? Empire building? It didn't occur to them. And indeed it was groups like the Zealots who were *most* opposed to Paul's early Christianity. As in all cultures there's a spectrum of belief. These groups were simply the most master-moral of a nevertheless slave-morality society.

>>509562627
in Poland the 2010s militant atheism & vulgar post-ironic memes from karachan.org did most of the work for Gen Z & millennials certainly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZT05OKU_JI

>>509562746
So who are you saying Shem's god was?

>>509562834
>Master moralities don't merely protect, they conquer.
Doesn't that make Christianity the paragon of master morality, being that it's the most widespread religion?
>Yes. This is exactly why Nietzsche argues that Saul's ideas was so brilliant. Though of course not brilliant in a "positive" way.
If you honestly believed this was a two millennia old plan (which only succeeded with the death of Christian states), then I have to conclude that you're just grasping at straws here.
>This is absolutely untrue, and it certainly wasn't true for Nietzsche. He wrote extensively (in the same work) about how the Protestant Reformation revitalized Christianity when it (fortunately, in Nietzsche's view) was on the verge of collapse.
Maybe it was decent in the beginning, but it's absolutely a joke now. Religion needs centralization and structure or you get LGBT churches and the like.

>>509562841
>Only empiricism, nothing else. Observation, acknowledgement of reality as it is, no averting your eyes and no coping with existential dread and most definitely NO WAITING FOR SAVIOR FIGURES TO DEAL WITH YOUR PROBLEMS.
Guess what secularism is? What's the problem?

>>509563045
>secularism
A buzzword that has nothing to do with the mindset of the population, they are still ruled by the same coping mechanisms and cunt worship.

>>509563045
>Doesn't that make Christianity the paragon of master morality, being that it's the most widespread religion?
No, as Nietzsche again argues, the weak and less fit can overwhelm the strong.
>If you honestly believed this
I haven't discussed anything I "believe", I'm simply stating what Nietzsche wrote. I even gave exact references. It's obvious you've never read him. I suggest you do that.
>Maybe it was decent in the beginning, but it's absolutely a joke now
Again I'm just discussing Nietzsche. Nietzsche can't comment on things that transpired after he died.

>>509552644 (OP)
>Was he the Antichrist?
tldr
no u

>>509563146
Surely there are countries untouched by Christian "coping mechanisms and cunt worship" (get your meds, seriously) that you can move to and never worry about this again?

>>509563166
>No, as Nietzsche again argues, the weak and less fit can overwhelm the strong.
Maybe the strong shouldn't be so few in number then? How are they strong and easily overwhelmed? Sounds like weakness.

Is Nietzsche your surrogate dad or something? I'm arguing with you, not him.

>>509563291
>Surely there are countries untouched by Christian
There aren't, not with white people in it. You guys made sure of that. :^)

>>509563348
You're a steppe mongol, though.

Saul/Paul was a member of the cult that had killed Jesus, The Roman Cult.
Saul never met Jesus. The roman church was just a rebranding it was never christian.
Catholics can't even talk to Jesus, he ignores them...which is why Catholics pray to Mary asking her to spank her son.

When Jesus met Simon, he said though art Cephas.
Saul lied and said Jesus called Simon Peter
NOT
Saint Peter fiction depicted as a white man
while the Bible clearly says Simon and his Brother Andrew were Canaanites black as soot. "Saint Peter" alleged to be the founder of of the catholic church is fiction.

>>509563291
>Maybe the strong shouldn't be so few in number then? How are they strong and easily overwhelmed? Sounds like weakness.
Be at least a bit less disingenuous. A sufficient number of adequately angry five year olds could physically kill you. Any woman can false rape accusations your life into a dumpster fire. You're doing elementary school redditor gottem sophistry rather than addressing the actual point.

no you're just a hylic

>>509563466
There is strength in numbers, but I fail to identify the strength in being overwhelmed. How does this strength manifest?

>>509563291
>Is Nietzsche your surrogate dad or something? I'm arguing with you, not him.
I'm here to discuss a topic, not answer childish rhetorical questions.
>How are they strong and easily overwhelmed?
Maybe putting the question in these terms will help: If westerners are so smart and their civilization so superior, how do they get constantly scammed by Indian scam callers? And how could their society have produced/educated citizens for whom this possible? I'd check out that natural law video an anon dropped earlier. It seems to address this exact topic. When you can answer that you'll have your answer. I'm not going to spoon feed you when you can't even put in the effort to read the authors anons are discussing ITT.

>>509561129
only gypsies do that but your misconception is understandable given that americans worship and imitate their brown minorities

>>509563512
I can't believe you are so retarded that you will actually walk away from this thread thinking that you've made a point there.

>>509555043
agreed, reading and understanding stirner is a real eye opener

>>509563518
>If westerners are so smart and their civilization so superior, how do they get constantly scammed by Indian scam callers?
Indian scam callers?? You could have used a number of better examples. Is this our biggest failing?
Anyway, feel free to check out because your dad figure didn't have answers to basic questions.

>>509563556
How is the slave morality the dominant force on Earth for centuries? Riddle me that.

>>509556072
this is modern western society

>>509563008
Shem is the great-grandfather of Abram, and Abram's god is Allah.
Japheth was Noah's eldest son from Noah's first wife Japheth is the founder of Tartaria Tartaryan Aryan.

Noah gave Shem Asia
Noah gave Ham Africa
Ham gave his son Canaan Congo region

>>509552644 (OP)

He might have not been perfect. He might have been some kind of ancestral incel BUT he was right in the fact that truth triumphs over opinions, beliefs and etc.

Those who cant recognize the thought seed nietzsche planted, shouldnt be allowed to breed due to low iq genes.

>>509552644 (OP)
>>509552762
>>509554087
>>509554897
his pluralistic assumptions are arguably courses under the weight of essentialism aggregating the meaningless void of stoic distortion.
needless to say his ridicules mustache looks like a giant shit

>>509563689
>Shem is the great-grandfather of Abram, and Abram's god is Allah.
According to the old testament Abram's father was an idol worshipper; that's clearly not Islamic.
Abram became a follower of Yahweh (again according to the OT) and took the name Abraham. How do you reconcile what you're saying with that?

>>509563780
You said it yourself Abram converted, after pimping his wife to the King and infecting him with STDs This was long after Shem Shem founded nations in Asia. Much later Abram wandered off.

Ham's son "Put" were the Egyptians, Puttites.

>>509557623
Yeah, that's exactly what he meant. Go back to India

>>509552644 (OP)
He was right about literally everything and anti-White christfaggots (whoops, tautology) have been coping and seething about it for 120 years.

>>509552762
>>509553356
You forgot the VPN, Chaim.

>>509556072
Nobody has adopted the works of Nietzsche, that's the problem. Western civilization is currently under siege by a horde of brown third world christtards

>>509552644 (OP)
no he was based and you are retarded, zoomie
You just wouldn't get it.

>>509564576
this

>>509564390
What does this have to do with Islam/Allah?

>>509564655
They prefer the term "Americans".

>>509563045
>it's the most widespread religion
Not really. The numbers are inflated by counting every citizen who doesn't explicitly object as Christian. I live in a small town with nominally 12000 Christians. Two churches. When I visit one of them for Sunday mass, maybe 20 people are there.

>>509553536
>>509555931
Neetzsche opposed slave morality that Christianity preaches.
Weakness:
>obey your master do not rise up against him
>You can't get sex because you are incel? that means you are pure
>You are jealous of someone living better life than you? ohh that's a sin
>You want to breed a woman? that lust and its a sin.
>can't take revenge on someone that hurt you? forgivness

Christianity opposes everything that is natural and human. Comes up with copes. Just don't do anything and you will get to heaven. Slave religion for slaves.

>>509565426
no relation
Islam was 600 years AD
Allah was the god of Asia long before Christ

>>509565794
>I live in a small town with nominally 12000 Christians. Two churches. When I visit one of them for Sunday mass, maybe 20 people are there.
Maybe the other church has 11980 people in it

>>509565868
catholics say sin all you want, just give us a cut of the loot and we will get you into heaven through our secret back door.

Jesus said VERY few will go to heaven, and HE is the judge.
Jesus did not die, so that you can sin.

1 John 3:9-10
King James Version

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

>>509566116
You've figured it out, genius. The other church has 11980 people in it.

>>509553536
>>509552762
>>509552644 (OP)

Fuck off. Kikes

Youre both jewish

>>509566241
Romulus the founder of Rome wanted to conquer and rule the world, he was a murder from the beginning.
Jesus did not say use my name to conquer the world, far from it. Jesus reiterated thou shall not kill.
Jesus did not talk to peter peter is fiction
saul/paul said build a churdh out of peters

On the Mount of olives, just before Jesus ascended, his disciples asked him what do we do. Jesus answered in the book of Matthew. pic related

This goes against everything Rome stood for.
Convert or die was not Jesus' message, that was Romulus' goal. Conquest, Inquisition, war, rape, pillage, murder... all roman, adopted by catholics.

The word pagan is latin. It means civilian, it was used pejoratively against anyone who did not carry a sword for the roman emperor, a thousand years before Jesus.
Catholics continue using it exactly the same way, everyone they want to kill or enslave is a pagan. Pagan was never a "religion"

>>509566116
Mass is where the catholics do their satanic ritual of weakening Jesus by eating his flesh, and drinking his blood, this preventing his return.
They aren't really eating his flesh, they just do it in their hearts, not for reals. wink wink nod nod.

>>509566533
Jesus said churches are corrupt, pray in your closet. Real Christians do not go to church.

If you belong to a church, you do not belong to Jesus. You cannot serve two masters.

His tolerance of Hegel diqualifies him as a serious thinker. He's more of a rabble-rouser than a charlatan.

>>509552644 (OP)
shut the fuck up kike
>>509552762
>>509553004

NEW THREAD

>>509567546
>>509567546
>>509567546

>>509555555

Checked. He is the ultimate anathema to (((Them))).

There is not one Jew in the first 11 books of the Bible. Jacob was not jewish he was Hebrew.

Jacob's children ALL 12 of them were Israelites, not just Judah

god told the Israelites go to Africa and kill EVERYONE including their animals.

Deuteronomy 20:16-18
16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:

18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.

>>509555555
Ch-ch-che-check'd

>>509568469
once again very clearly saying "their gods" when referring to the children of Ham (Africans)
Ham and Shem were half Brothers Noah was their father. Different books from different lands give the names, of Noah's wives, the mothers of his 3 sons. Noah was the great-grandson of Enoch (the last pureblood)
Noah lived for 950 years. None of Noah's wives lived long, they were not purebloods.
Nor were Noah's sons pure.

>>509552762
fpbp
/thread

>>509555931
>>509552644 (OP)
>nazis are evil
>statist are evil
>we need anarchy and shit

since when crackheads found a shelter in pol? this is the most jewish thread i've seen in years