Thread 509610493

It's a common point of debate whenever White nationalism is brought up. Someone would say that "White" isn't a perfect category so WN is a silly idea.
Well, let's try to standardize somehow and create a biological definition of White.

>>509610493 (OP)
If you listen to any music with the prefix "alternative" you're 100% white. Boom.

>>509610493 (OP)
Every other race already knows your white retard

>>509610493 (OP)
west european

>>509611005
This is not a definition. It just shows a difference between races, which by the way, were self-identified in that study.

>>509611035
This is a location.

Fact: Iranians are the last white country in the world.

>>509611530
So it doesnt exist because its just like a word or a category man
Race can be determined via genetics with certainty for >99.8% of individuals.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15625622
Oral bacteria can be used to determine race.
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-oral-bacteria-fingerprint-mouth.html
Race can be determined via brain scans.
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)00671-5
With 160 short gene sequences, race can be determined with 100% accuracy for Whites, Asians, and Africans.
Principal continent of origin (race) can be determined with 87% accuracy even for highly mixed populations.
http://www.cell.com/ajhg/abstract/S0002-9297(07)60574-6

>>509611551
yes the location of white europeans desu, everything other say european

>>509610493 (OP)
pure european ancestry with light eyes

>>509610493 (OP)
>try

>>509610493 (OP)
You’re brown

>>509611727
This is not an anti-White thread, retard. I'm trying to get people on board with a cohesive definition of White.
As for your studies, oral bacteria can be used to determine *what?* The study shows that oral bacteria can determine if it aligns with the person's self-identification. It is by no means a biological criteria.
If Shaniqua put "White" on her census that study would add to the incorrect guess list.

>>509611980
I am not.

>>509611850
>>509611801
Where is the cutoff for racial European on the map? Also consider that there are many questions indigenous groups in Europe such as the Sami people.
Yes, "European" is a sufficient category for common use, but it is by no means a biological category, that's what this thread is about.

>>509610493 (OP)
I identify as European, not White. White is retarded New World speak no one knows what means. Call yourself European American instead of White, just like niggers call themselves African American.

>>509610838
post like these are incredibly jewish btw

>>509612412
I think it's just shitposting, anon

>>509612251
I find no problem with the term. A synonym for informal use.

>>509612002
Definitions are a manner of abstraction always, mathematics are an abstraction too btw for instance the number 1 doesnt exist in nature its a description, you can describe something as 1 apple and 1 orange but the number doesnt physically exist nor do "apples" or "oranges"

>>509610493 (OP)
Nordic (Scandi & Finn) and Germanic (German, British, all those tiny Germanic countries like Netherlands etc.)
Thats it.
Theres no more White people left on earth than these ethnic groups.
Whites really gotta start seeing the severity of the situation, even the entire Mediterranean and Eastern Europe are mutts for the whole population.

>>509611966
Okay now we're getting somewhere. This is a great graphic, I've been looking for contradictions within taxonomy relating to subspecies of human and other animal.
So when we say that a person is "White", we mean....

>>509612251
This, "white" is used by the jews as a blanket term to both hide themselves and throw blanket accusations (usually on things they are guilty of) on all who share this superficial feature. It's literally a jew coined term that has unfortunately been propagated by braindead amerimutts.

>>509612770
get the fuck away from me midwit

>>509612712
What the fuck are you talking about
What race is this woman?

>>509612947
No, not exactly. That would just hurt the cause

>>509612926
But Jews call themselves European too, they just leave out the fact that they're not native there. Was it really coined by a Jew?

>>509613062
It's not that complicated. If you're of euro descent then you're white. Why do we need such a strict definition when any shade of nigger from Wesley Snipes to Halle Berry are considered black? Most african americans have around 15% euro admixture and no one questions their race

>>509612712
finns are asiatic

>>509613219
midwits arent white I consider them spiritual jews
>>509603603
heres a link to the last thread we had about this an hour ago

White is more than skin tone. It's facial features. Just like black is more than skin tone. All these alibinos are still considered black because of their negroid features

>>509612978
According to /pol/ Asiatic, despite the average Angloid goblina being swarthy and dysgenic.

>>509612412
I know caused this because theres been 4 threads in w3 hours after mine, I made a post of ancient mediterranean phenotypes that were predominant pre arab expansion and now 90 iq stormtards are having an existential crisis because they think modern arab mutts are white

>>509613339
Because to be taken seriously we have to have actual standards and definitions beyond liking the aesthetics of European Nazi larpers on Xitter or something.
"European" is only sufficient for surface level discussion. If you want to apply the one-drop rule then you have maybe 50 million Whites left on earth, practically every person's ancient ancestor was raped by some non at one point in history, so you need to deal with that question too.

>>509614102
The one drop rule is retarded and no one irl goes by it. If you look white, act white, then you are white. I don't care if you have a sami ancestor somewhere in your family tree. Or if you're 1 percent north african on a dna test

>>509610493 (OP)
Anyone whose ancestors are supermajority from the populations which were in Europe (associated islands included, and going all the way to the Urals/Volga/whatever) around the time of the last glacial maximum (10kya). Nuremberg laws apply for mischlings.

>>509610493 (OP)
Anyone who is European by blood, with those who possess more European blood being "Whiter."

>>509612712
There's already a term for that group: its just Germanic (and Finns...).

I identify most with Europeans who look like my people. Scandinavians and Finns for example are compatible people that can mix.

>>509613940
The only people who consider Slavs nonwhite are fanatical Nordic supremacists or D&C Jews.

>>509615089
new ip btw phonefagging

>>509610493 (OP)

Northern and Western European peoples.

Thats it.

>>509614689
>>509614645
>>509614356
So what percentage of European makes someone "White"?

>>509615203

English
French
Welsh
Scottish
German, etc.

>>509610493 (OP)
Anyone with a natural phenotype that cannot be immediately tied to another majority group of peoples.

>>509615203
The Slavs are literally Germanic immigrants.
>>509612978
This person is a niggermutt to you?

>>509613388
>asiatic
*MONGOLS

>>509610493 (OP)
European blood and nothing else.

>>509610493 (OP)
Defining white isn't hard, defining where white ends is hard.

>>509615439
Yes precisely. Which is what detractors often use to discredit the whole movement. Which is why I made this thread.
So far, this is the best answer, even though it can't really be put into words
>>509611966

>>509615372

Ok we can count slavs as white but they have asiatic features mostly.

Forget to mention, Dutch, Flemish, Romanian etc.

>>509615683
What you have to realize is the people who use this argument are never going to agree with you anyways. There's no need to explain it to them because even if you do, they'll find some other reason. And even if you out debate every little detail and technicality of their every argument, they still won't accept white nationalist ideas, and you will have wasted a shitload of time

>>509615905
It also doesn't matter because every country (even non-white ones) should be individually nationalistic, not nationalistic behind the label of white or asian or black. Because no native people will ever benefit from racial diversity, much less becoming a minority.

>>509615867
Show me the asiatic features, liar. Give me an example.

>>509616109

Turkic influence, some have the epiphanic eye folds.

>>509615089
There are plenty of Slavs who are blonde and have the characteristics of a Nordic person. I think Russians are kinda Nordicist because they have the racial slur churka which is a racial slur for people from places like Central Asia and basically means dark head or dark haired.

>>509616109

Not west slavs though I mean eastern Slavs.

>>509612251
Wise words

>>509610493 (OP)
The biological definition is that all europeans descends from a common ancestor and that is the pre-indo-europeans and indo-europeans, so consequently they are cousins or close kin, the rest is just kike history

>>509615905
This is exactly what they say about le republinazis. It's a stupid mentality. The reality is that there do exist good-willed people reading discussions online, and when WN is immediately discredited by lack of empirical definition of White, it loses followers.
>>509616107
Yes, general nationalism and patriotic identity is a good thing. White Nationalism in particular, though, unites Whites against a common enemy. We have far, far more in common than with nons.

>>509616457
Nobody legitimately thinks white nationalism is discredited by this, if they saying that it is, then it's because they want it to be. That's what I'm saying. Everyone who would ever want to believe simple pragmatic ideas like "we shouldn't let thousands of brown people into our country" won't be sitting around thinking "but do greeks count as white though..." and letting that stop them

>>509616771
Ok I guess we're definitely White nationalism now.
It's in the name. Race-based nationalism around White people. What I described before was a general characteristic.
And yes, "are Greeks white though" is a common discrediting tactic. It DOES impact the movement when there's no consensus on the question.

>>509617228
It doesn't tho

>>509610493 (OP)
White is a state of mind combined with skin tone. Not all people with pale skin are white.

>>509617795
This is stupid. Intelligence doesn't affect race, it's the opposite.

>>509610493 (OP)
it's practically impossible and everyone has a different idea. unless you can put everyone under a dna test i think its impossible, and even if there are still other questions left unanswered. anyways "white" is a stupid term anyways

>>509617795
>white is a state of mind
lol
Race can be determined via brain scans.
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)00671-5

>>509618013
But for White nationalism to succeed, you have to have a definition.

>>509611530
it's biological and cultural

>>509616457
You are not trying to define a thing. You are trying to communicate a thing. Let me show you how stupid it sounds to name yourself a color:

here is stupid >>509610209

It is totally and entirely impossible to understand what this person is even trying to say. Perhaps we can infer his intent, but never can we truly know.

>>509618979
Go sign the law that deports everyone from outside of europe with skin "swarthy" or darker, bonus for 85 iq or lower, and who cant and wont blend their culture with mine; and ill write you a thank you note saying "good enough"

>>509619687
Wtf is this
I'm not a liberal. I do not need an infographic telling me that the way I was using language was actually oppressing me subconsciously

>>509619351
What?

>>509619944
no it is just erroneous. I understand this is not an easy task

>>509620089
where is the color. point to it and tell me

>>509610493 (OP)
Germanic is true White.

>>509613388
Holy cute. How can white “women” even compete?

>>509620200
>>509620124
White could literally be replaced with poopoo and there would be no problem if people unironically redefined it this way.
This is quite literally what niggers did in 2020, they started saying how the term "black" is oppressive and they should use African

>>509620244
Germanic is Germanic, White is... God knows what.

>>509610493 (OP)
reflecting the full spectrum of light

>>509620357
>White could literally be replaced with poopoo and there would be no problem
no. A=A is the law of identity

Try the apophatic method. Perhaps it is more useful only to what a thing is not. This is technically the end result of deportation. What remains is the thing being defined. problem solved

>>509621185
I don't understand what you're saying or why this is important. And no, I am not stupid.

>>509610493 (OP)
It's actually really simple:

> White (Noun): A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe.

> MENA people aren't White:
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/17/1079181478/us-census-middle-eastern-white-north-african-mena

> There ARE NO "Non-White" Europeans:

> "The only long-standing minorities not considered to be White in the European Continent are the jewish and roma people.
> jews = nationless, wandering subversive invaders.
> roma = nationless, wandering thriving invaders.

Europeans are WHITE
WHITE people are European

>>509621501
Alright, thank you.

>>509612251
>European American
Yeah but what is the cutoff
how much of a percentage of another ethinicity is someone considered non-white, 25%?

>>509610493 (OP)
we'll know who is White when we don't let you in nigger

bump

>>509612251
Why would you call yourself European and not Norwegian.

>>509610493 (OP)
Jews are not white

>>509621785
You are technically mixed if you have as little as 1% non-European blood, but you are mixed to a lesser degree than someone who has 25% non-European blood.
Any amount of racial impurity is bad and undesirable. How racially polluted you are also depend on what the admixture is, nigger blood is extremely polluting for example.

>>509624424
I identify as Nordic first and European second.

no white people are derived from the south asian subcontinent. white people are of the western world, of european tradition and ancestry (aka christendom). white people explored, colonized and uplifted the world's straggling diversity into a modern age. meanwhile pajeets waited centuries for the next superior outsiders to give them purpose and identity.

"aryans" were an ancient example of white people, and they no longer exist in that form. there is no "indo-european" anything worth mentioning. the modern pajeet is a degraded copy of a copy of an ancient aryan's slave, long abandoned to his own primitive devices. a more recent example of abandoned pajeet slaves, this time far from home, are the gypsies in europe.

it would seem that the distasteful business of slavery may have evolved to meet the needs of the slaves themselves. what if specific cultures of humanity are natural and organic slaves, and to deprive them of their god-given role in life can only result in corruptions? what if freedom is only a mind-bending poison to these poor souls, and separates them from instinctive happiness? then what has been done to so many? what cruelty has this been, raising them up to stand as peers and rivals to anyone?

>>509610493 (OP)
The only people who ask questions like this are'nt white, and they are trying to figure out why they're not White. Here is your answer:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vUVJr5T0dlP8/

You can shut the fuck up and go to bed now.