Was the moon landing real?

Even the survivors have come out years later saying how tough that mission was. You had eyewitness accounts from the control room

Possibly. Unlikely, but possibly.
The footage is 100 percent fake.

Probably.

>>509620041 (OP)
More or less

>>509620041 (OP)
See Also: Gary McKinnon.

>>509620041 (OP)
how is there wind on the moon?

>>509620041 (OP)
Probably not. The government fakes shit all the time.

>>509620041 (OP)
Completely real.

>>509620041 (OP)
The footage was faked.
Space exploration is a total secret society psy-op.
The vacuum is a lie.
They control every head of every country in order to fake the "space race".

>>509620363
The moon has an atmosphere like earth, it’s just smaller

>>509620363
There isn't. You can see the bar in the top of the flag that's holding it out.

>>509620041 (OP)
SPACE IS FAKE AND GAY
NASA MEANS DECIEVER IN HEBREW
THE EARTH IS A FLAT PLANE
SHOW ME THE CURVE

no

PEEPEE
POO
POO

>>509620103
>survivors
uh oh moishe…i think you are getting your narratives mixed up!!!!

>>509620041 (OP)
No

>>509620041 (OP)
Yes, I think some people forget it took 30 missions over 11 years with many failures before they could land a man on the moon. Also having the best German rocket scientists helped.

>>509620943
Now they say the moon is inside the earth's atmopshere...

>>509620520
>You can see the bar in the top of the flag that's holding it out.
And the bunching of the fabric at the top where it's wrapped around the pole
AS17-134-20385

And more pictures of the flag
https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums/72157658976934006/

We know that the spot America cratered is visable to all other crafts that have observed the moon.

>>509620041 (OP)
Yeah mate, I was there.

>>509621813
>The denser dayside region of hydrogen is still rather sparse, with just 70 atoms per cubic centimeter at 60 000 kilometers above Earth’s surface, and about 0.2 atoms at the Moon’s distance.
>“On Earth we would call it vacuum, so this extra source of hydrogen is not significant enough to facilitate space exploration,” says Igor.
https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Earth_s_atmosphere_stretches_out_to_the_Moon_and_beyond

>>509622154
>we just used our oxidizing engine in a sea of hydrogen and oxygen
>nothing ever happens
kek

Even though the US government had every reason to lie. And even though it’s wildly suspicious that NASA no longer remembers how the Saturn V rocket works. Yes, I actually do. In spite of how rational and not-as-crazy-as-people-act it is to claim the moon landing was faked, I believe it was real.

There's mud and n the lunar rover

>>509622313
Congratulations, you don't understand surface tension.

The surface tension of water makes it want to minimize contact with the air
In microgravity, that means forming into a sphere, or in this case into the cylinder and minimizing the exposure to air
It is not gravity holding it in the bottom, it is surface tension

This video was from a class session they were giving to grade school students, who had the same objects in their classroom
The students floated the ping pong ball on the water, then the astronauts showed how they could push it down and it would stay there
Then they pulled it off the (velcro'd) surface and spun it around, again showing they are in microgravity.

https://youtu.be/0qEzdxLls5k

>>509622392
I am a chemical engineer, I know more about surface tension than you do about english.
Also you can't explain where the Helium went can you?

>>509622373
>it’s wildly suspicious that NASA no longer remembers how the Saturn V rocket works
They literally have the blueprints on microfiche, and at least one complete rocket in a museum
You are repeating a lie that you heard of "HURR NASA CANT BUILD ROCKIT"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMHLvoWZfqQ&t=4770s

Planes aren’t real

zzzzzzzz>>509622486

zzzzz
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/498485687/#q498492290

>>509620041 (OP)
To deny the moon landing is to deny Aryan achievement therefore it’s brown coded.

How can the moon landing be real when my eyes aren't real?

>>509622486
Anon, NASA themselves have said they have “forgotten” how to go to the moon. I didn’t make that up. They have repeated that statement as fact. Do I believe it’s because of institutional brain drain due to defunding and the lack of focus on manned space flight? Absolutely. Anyone with work experience knows just how bad things can get when Dave retires and nobody actually knows how to do Dave’s job. Brain drain is real and extremely deleterious.

But I am not the one claiming NASA forgot how to go to the moon. NASA is. Their words not mine.

>>509622765
>NASA themselves have said they have “forgotten” how to go to the moon
Prove it
Find me a NASA source saying "We have forgotten how to go to the Moon"
>I didn’t make that up.
No, probably not
Somebody else made it up, and you believe it and repeated the lie.

>>509622765
NASA literally landed an all female trans astronaut team on the moon 2 weeks ago and they all had their periods sync up on the way back. snopes even fact checked it

>>509620041 (OP)
>>509620103
>>509620106
>>509620372
>>509620441
NASA is incredibly obvious with their deceptions and if you cannot see it or refuse to admit it, you’re just another literal religious zealot for the modern church of scientism.
>astronauts literally quoted saying that the lunar lander was held together by scotch tape and staples
...
>THEY SAID THE FLOOR WAS AS THICK AS TWO SHEETS OF REYNOLD'S WRAP...
>TWO SHEETS OF REYNOLD'S WRAP...
>THEY SAID IT WAS HELD TOGETHER WITH SCOTCH TAPE AND STAPLES...
>SCOTCH TAPE...
>AND STAPLES..

(((they))) are laughing at you my guy..

For those itt with even a modicum of capacity for critical thought and discernment, educate yourselves on how we know for certain that ALL alleged “space travel” is fake and gay just like space itself:

>Open pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh
>see section titled:
>VIDEOS TO LEARN ABOUT NASA’s LIES AND FAKERY:
>proceed to educate yourself
For example:

The Moon Landings Hoax by Taboo Conspiracy - Old Romania Presentation:
https://youtu.be/z5U5Lpgv8qM

>>509622873
>proove it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e007PaLsfV8
lurk more faggot

>>509620103
>>509622933
Picrel is a NASA computress that worked on the Apollo missions. Here’s an interview of her stating that it wasn’t even possible to tell the difference between a simulation and “the real thing” bc they were just looking at blips and numbers being fed to them on computer screens:

https://youtu.be/-XCD8TYOylQ

Not that many people would have to be in on the lie. Just a few people at the very top of the power pyramid feeding disinfo and misinfo to those just below them who then proceed to feed it down the chain of command. power structures are incredibly compartmentalized by design. And Most people (like you) just believe the bullshit they’re told to believe and then teach it to other people; they just regurgitate what they’re told bc propaganda is a very effective tool in shaping people’s perceptions of reality.

>>509622933
>THEY SAID THE FLOOR WAS AS THICK AS TWO SHEETS OF REYNOLD'S WRAP..
That is referring to the outside mylar wrap and not the pressure hull, which was ribbed aluminum for strength and lightweight
https://youtu.be/fMHLvoWZfqQ?t=4980

>>509622873
even the jew lie website doesn't deny it

>>509622873
You’re free to argue that it’s TECHNICALLY a slightly different meaning, but the subtext is clear. We used to be able to do this, but we scrapped the tech, and now it will take us a very long time to rebuild it, much longer than it ought to take to fit parts together, because nobody is left around here who fully understands how it works.

>>509620041 (OP)
https://youtu.be/3PErRYjUsX0

>>509620103
>>509620106
>>509620372
>>509620441
>>509622933
Those of you itt who don’t understand just how easy it is for corrupt governments and powerful institutions/entities to propagandize entire societies should watch this immediately:
>Meet Edward Bernays, Master of Propaganda:
https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-edward-bernays-master-of-propaganda/

…And thats just the tip of the ice(((berg))). If you approach the rabbithole with a mentality of genuine interest in learning the truth about this reality and your place in it, (you) will inevitably arrive at the topic of flat earth.

Protip: every single answer to literally any and all flat earth related questions you may have can be found in this pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh

You can also use the 4plebs search function to find FE posts made in the past
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/Flat%20earth/

for those itt who are unaware:
space is fake and gay, the magical spinning cartoon ball earth is fake and gay. we literally live in God's snow globe and every decision (you) make has immense meaning and significance. change your ways and start living correctly. dont fall for the nihilism meme and dont fall for any of the religion memes. you can look at life as either a test or a game but whatever you do, dont look at it as meaningless. BE A GOOD PERSON AND LIVE BY THE GOLDEN RULE ALWAYS! also stop jerking off you pathetic littel squirtboys; your life will drastically improve when abstaining from degeneracy.

>>509620041 (OP)
Yes, you can even verify it with a telescope.

>>509620106
>unlikely
how?
>footage is fake
lol

>>509620041 (OP)
yes
but the footage shown to the public was faked

>>509620041 (OP)
As real as the holocaust.

>>509623124
>but the subtext is clear
Ok, but the text is "We can't make one right now, and even if we could, we wouldn't because we don't want to rebuild that shit when we have better solutions"
They did not "forget" - you can't forget basic orbital mechanics - they just know that they can't make it right now, just like how Ford can't make a Model T like they did back in the day

>>509620041 (OP)
lolno

>>509623270
>the better solution
>not even pointing the solar pannels at the sun
nasa in the 2020's
kek

>>509623124
I never fully understood this until I worked in tooling
>the tooling got destroyed
>the blueprints got destroyed
>everyone that worked on it is dead or retired
>all institutional memory of doing it is gone
You’re literally re-engineering the entire project from scratch, at that point.

>>509623320
The panels can and do move
They do not have to always be pointed at the Sun because batteries exist

>>509623321
Did you work in a toolshop that went backwards in productivity, and available components?
Usually you upgrade and improve, not abandon cutting edge, unique capabilities to save tape reels.

>>509623092
They literally said they had to worry about dropping tools or putting their foot thru the floor.

>We had to have pads on the floor 'cause if you dropped a screwdriver, it would go right through the floor."
>- Jim Lovell, Astronaut (Gemini 7, Gemini 12, Apollo 8, Apollo 13)

Regardless the entire deception is hilariously obvious. Your picture is terrible post hoc damage control.

>>509620103
>>509620372
>>509620441
>>509620556
>>509622933
The world is owned and controlled by a small handful of literal satanists, eugenicists and psychopaths. They want to bring suffering, misery and death upon humanity. Above all else they want your soul. They will do anything and everything in their power to convince (you) to become materialistic and nihilistic so that you become easy to control and manipulate (thats the primary objective of the heliocentric model). If youre convinced there is no metaphysical nature to reality, it is easier for them to convince you to sin and commit atrocities for them. For lurkers itt who are unaware of this fact and new to learning about how this world actually works start here:

THE ELITE, ROYAL BLOODLINES, BILL GATES & THE EUGENICS IDEOLOGY:
https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil
https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-bill-gates-full-documentary-2020/

THE FEDERAL RESERVE:
https://corbettreport.com/federalreserve

CONSPIRACIES RESOURCES:
https://www.corbettreport.com/bestof/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/70qvx7/updated_list_of_proven_conspiracies_and_hidden/
https://unlimitedhangout.com
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com
https://www.crrow777radio.com
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/tkelly6785757

SHADOWBANNED FLAT EARTH VIDS/RESOURCES:
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh

NukeHOAX:
https://vimeo.com/331671526

Germs/viruses:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/joZF7GsUmbfd/

HIV/AIDS:
https://youtu.be/8BXxXcIYY_Q

CovidHOAX:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/448646795/#448671181

EVOLUTION:
https://youtu.be/rXexaVsvhCM
https://youtu.be/DtCIp9sgiE0
https://youtu.be/xDvKD_z3OeQ
https://youtu.be/vdSjyvIHVLw
https://youtu.be/cCk-b9GaY5k

SANDY HOOK:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iazwAxgBtexC/

Looking to perform your own tests/experiments to confirm or falsify the mainstream claims? (you) can start here:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435656
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435684

>>509623270
As I said, anon, I do believe the moon landing was real. But I sympathize with the people asking
>if we did this in the 1960s why the hell are we struggling so much to just do it again in the 2020s?
That’s a fair question, and Artemis is a fucking boondoggle if ever the word deserved to be applied. It’s reasonable to ask WHY Ford, after ceasing production on Model Ts, can’t seem to figure out how to manufacture cars. Again, when you understand bureaucracy and institutional thinking, the answer is
>it’s complicated, but I promise it’s not surprising
But I get why outsiders view it with extreme suspicion, especially given the long-running moon hoax narrative.

It was real, the only people to deny it are retards who dont understand science and butt hurt Russians and Europeans who was salty that the U.S got to the moon and they couldn't.

>>509623321
Just to reiterate here - this is the inside of an F1 engine, one of 5 on the Saturn V
That round object is the injector plate, where the liquid fuel and oxygen were sprayed to get thrust
They were drilled by hand

The long pipes down the size held the fuel/oxygen before it went into the injector plate (because it helped keep the engine bell cool)
Those were welded by hand by the best skilled welders they could find

Basically the entire manufacturing power of the USA was at NASA's disposal, and they used it to do something spectacular
Not once, but 6 times.

>>509622873

>>509623393
>thats why they had them pointed the wrong way for the entire trip and then deleted the video off youtube...
I doubt you can find that video

>>509623321
This makes me think of the recent Destin video about how the US has literally forgotten how to do tool and die work. How if one single motherfucker in his community chose to retire, that would be IT for his state’s ability to manufacture parts from scratch.

>>509623703
Exactly. How do you lose the ability to do something? Outsource it all to China.

>>509623522
Yeah, I see what you're saying anon, and sorry for being aggressive in some of my responses
I took you for one of the retards.

Artemis is definitely a complete disaster and a product of Boeing and NASA being in bed together for decades
And Starliner is another example of just how far Boeing has fallen in terms of engineering
I agree with you that a big part is the lack of institutional knowledge.

>I get why outsiders view it with extreme suspicion
I get that too, and it's good to have a skeptical mind
But when it's the same arguments put forth over and over, the same refuted talking points over and over... it gets frustrating
When we have the sum of human knowledge on your phone, anybody who is legitimately skeptical can look up the information and get their questions answered
The fact that some people insist on keeping their heads in the sand is beyond me

The us landed on moon several times. There is no question about it. Other countries , especially enemy nations, monitored the events.

>>509623522
Comparing the model T to a 2025 arm powered touchscreen car is retarded.
Nothing was lost, other than the vision.

>>509623786
>all those Chinese moon missions
kek

>>509623816
Yea we get it you’re gullible, naive and absolutely clueless as to how this world actually works. if you’re ever ready to wake the fuck up, this post will be waiting for you: >>509623496

>>509623798
You’re a real one, anon. Respect.

But also, no. I actually am glad for it. Same reason I’m glad for the flat earthers. It’s really refreshing to have a group of people who believe that facts > authority and that experiments need to be reverified because the people spouting data cannot be implicitly trusted. If the replicability crisis has taught us anything it’s that “science” in the modern sense of the word is only related by tangent to the actual scientific method.

God bless the skeptics. God bless the people out there independently collecting data, looking for adversarial explanations, and poking at the seams of official narratives in search of holes and blind spots. These people are doing the real work of science.

Yes, the earth is round. Yes, I think astronauts landed on the moon. Yes, I think the ISS really orbits the Earth. But the people who don’t are not retards. They’re smarter than 90% of people who see a headline blurb in a magazine and take it as fact. Please see: the Chorizo incident. I’d much rather people be skeptical of the “facts” they’re fed than trust them because the person stating them has “scientific authority”.

>>509620433

That "Light runoff" in the back is a dead giveaway.

The sun is going to light all all spaces in a photo, yet its not doing it here?

EyeNoseJewsAreEvil

>>509624161
>>509623798
these two faggots are in the same building
trying to fake consensus

>>509623703
I saw that video too

Some of that is the centralization of manufacturing, and with the global market, the need for huge orders to keep profits
Destin was trying to make a couple thousand units, and I'm sure a metalworking company could make them
But it takes time to make those, and when there's other customers asking for hundreds of thousands of units, they win.

I don't know - it's a complex problem and I don't know about the logistics of that stuff
But manufacturing does need to come back to US shores, or we'll be fucked in the long run

>>509624215
This. They’re obvious af.

>>509622873

>>509622873
>>509624487

>>509624215
The beauty of my argument is that I’m glad you think so and I encourage you to continue to try to prove it.

Also it’s kind of unlikely, consider that it’s after 10PM here on the east coast, if I was a NASA employee it’d be way outside business hours. I’m shitposting on my phone from in bed right now.

>>509622873
>>509623660
>>509624487
>>509624559

>>509624161
I graduated with a Physics degree about 20 years ago, and from what I've heard about the current state of research, I'm glad I didn't pursue a PhD
The people who control the money have their own little pet theories, and no matter how many times it's shown to be wrong, they still funnel money to it and leave the rest begging for scraps

And don't get me started on science journalism, which has its own set of problems
The Chorizo incident is a great example of it, but every fucking day my newsfeed has some bullshit clickbait "The universe is really X!" headline and it never is what they say it is

Cheers, anon

>>509623101
Neither did the jew lie flerf site.

>>509623148
Which god?

>>509623101
>>509622873
>>509623660
>>509624658

Lol no. Idk if there are secret space programs, coz secret innit. But the moon landing is clearly fake, and I'd add completely homosexual. It's not even slightly plausible, but I suppose back in the 60's they all lived in black and white, and couldn't really see the fakery.
Whatever. Everything is fake. Once you accept this, it's all good, and you are free to figure things out yourself. Probably you will do a bad job, but God loves a trier. You know who God doesn't like? Poofs.

>>509624620
>img_XXXX
>deflects to nasa
>uk and usa flags claimed to be 1 location and plays dumb

All you have been doing is replying the same guy until we called you out on it

>>509624866
Open the pastebin and scroll to the bottom and see the section titled “Religion”

>>509624993
Nope. Just tell me which god you barrack for.

/pol/ really is the lowest IQ board on 4chan

>>509624824
The thing about Flat Earth is that anyone can use the SCIENTIFIC METHOD to prove that earth is flat and motionless simply by performing some very basic experiments themselves (ie: curvature tests). The main reason why most intelligent people haven’t yet noticed that earth is flat, and space is obviously fake, is bc of censorship of anyone speaking out against the mainstream scientific consensus (ie: Youtube and Google are hiding legit flat earth info with their algorithms). Also, “The Flat Earth Society” is a Masonic disinfo campaign which makes a mockery of flat earth and further deters researchers from taking it seriously.

There literally isnt a single falsification of flat earth cosmology, where on the other hand, there are countless falsifications of the globe and the heliocentric model in it’s entirety. The main reason people beLIEve in the current globe religion is bc of appeal to authority and appeal to majority fallacies.

>>509625177
>curvature tests
Curvature tested and confirmed

>>509623101
>>509624487
>>509624559
>>509624658

>>509625219
>reboonked

>>509625163
>/pol/ really is the lowest IQ board on 4chan
And the jannies are the absolute worst
They only show up for about 2 minutes an hour to try and clean it up, if that

>>509624138
How many millions of people worldwide are in this conspiracy. Millions, it is not possible. You believe a failed sci-fi writer from the 1970's who invented this bs, who laughed all the way to the bank, is on the level.

>>509620041 (OP)
It was the beginning of a new age

>>509625177
>(ie: curvature tests)
Like this one?
>Noooooo! Not tHaT curvature test!

>>509625394
people are just retarded

>>509625630
Interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmnZe34Xix8

>>509620307
What did he find

>>509625912
Why didn't refraction effect that experiment?

>>509625448
I have a private shizo theory that he's an actor, pic related. They just swap them for different roles.
JFK btw is The Smoking Man from X Files. Yes, they also like to mock us.

>>509625887
>3 men lived in space for 3 days on these batteries
No they didn't
The fuel cells created electricity for them

Please investigate the lies that you are being told - it's boring refuting you

>>509626040
So you are saying all they needed was ~3500 watts of power?

>>509623101
They literally don't, it's what Don Pettit said
What retards

>>509620041 (OP)
no, they faked it. jews have a long history of pulling shit like this, 9/11, JFK, Pearl Harbor, Operation paperclip. make whites feel good while everything is going to shit.

>>509626303
Show me a successful USA moon landing post 2000.

The moon isn’t real

>>509620041 (OP)
If the moon landing was fake the USSR would have been the first to call us out on it being fake

>>509623270
>just like how Ford can't make a Model T
This cope again
And it's always the same trope, Le Ford T
Tell me, what could Ford T do that a modern car can't ? Was it faster, had larger range, more horse powers, had GPS and shit ?
The point is, they don't make T because we have better things now
So what do they have better than the Apollo
>>509623321
They have now
>Better space suits
>Better space stations
>Better rockets
>Better computers
>Toilets
They didn't lose anything, they advanced but they can't go back because they never went in the first place

>>509626653
Why can these better rockets not lift as much?
Why are these better suits not suitable for EVA?
Why does NASA have an open contract out for better suits?
Why do you need better computers if they keep landing sideways with 2020 rovers?
The toilets are literally the same ones.

>>509625219
objects in the distance would, and do, disappear from the bottom up on a flat earth. Educate yourself on basic perspective, light attenuation and the optical horizon:

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40294514/#40344761

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40294514/#40344789

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40294514/#40344834

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40294514/#40344892

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40460212/#40517653

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40460212/#40525619

>open pastebin
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh
>ctrl+f: "optic"
>see section titled:
REFRACTION & EARTH’S OPTICAL HORIZON
>educate yourself

>>509625630
>>509625912
>b-b-b-bbbut muh kike-produced Netflix hitpiece said…

https://youtu.be/4zLD6xLDVSE

https://youtu.be/M2H7cgKQcPs

Educate yourself on RLGs and MMX:

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36512177/#36556403

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36512177/#36556438

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36512177/#36579679

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36427040/#36484805

Ring laser gyros and fiber optic gyros prove earth is stationary and flat.

Also,
>your go-to proof of curvature came from a flat earther that was misrepresented in a kike-produced Netflix mockumentary.
Only a literal shill or a complete npc would put this forward as “proof” of the globe. Why do you think it is that you have to rely on flat earthers to prove curvature/motion instead of your own (((mainstream))) scientists? Oh yea, now I remember:
https://odysee.com/@GLOBEBUSTERS:c/exposing-the-fraud-behind-pbs-genius:4

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/32623940/#32631575

Bc your scientists literally got caught faking earth curve when they attempted to perform their own “curvature test” lol

>>509624956
>I suppose back in the 60's they all lived in black and white, and couldn't really see the fakery.

It was real but the videos are fake.

>>509626918

>>509620041 (OP)
>Was the moon landing real?
Is space is fake and gay, how exactly can the moon landing be real?

>>509626903
>Educate yourself on basic perspective, light attenuation and the optical horizon:
How about you educate me?

>Basic perspective
That makes an entire object appear to shrink in relative size uniformly vertically and horizontally, but those windmills are not shrunk horizontally
And they are not shrunk vertically - there is a solid cutoff where the curve of the Earth blocks it.
Educate me on how this works on your model

>Light attenuation
That deals with the falloff of light as distance increases
But on a flat earth, the tops of the windmills are further from the observer than the bottoms
So how would light attenuation cause only the bottoms to be obstructed by the curve?
Educate me.

>optical horizon
The entire reason the horizon exists is because the Earth is curved
If you have another explanation...
Educate me

>>509627226
>educate me
Already did. See the archived posts, videos and pastebin sections I’ve linked to itp: >>509626903
If you require more hand holding than that, then I’m sorry to have to break it to you, but you simply lack the minimum basic cognitive faculties required to acquire and retain new information (ie: you’re retarded, anon).

>>509626016
No, he wouldn't be so fucking sad if he was an actor
My theory is
>Hey, guys. you're going to the Moon go America
>Neil: Jej
>So, we have to practice and we will film that all
>OK lol
>Ok Neil, here's the deal. We can't go to the Moon, we have to fake it. Go there and lie.
>What ? No, you can't ...
>Look, Neil, do you want Communists to win ? Are you a communist ? Think about your family.
> .... ok .... (dies inside)
I think he was a good guy honestly.
Hal Holbrook did a great job in Capricorn one and anybody who thinks it's about the Mars mission is a fool. It's about the Apollo. Even the LM is the same.
https://youtu.be/AZ0AsuZu4ds

So as usual, the flat earther cannot defend his position, and just posts memes and insults and insists "Do your own research"
I have, and I have concluded the truth that the Earth is a globe
And if you do your research, you will find that too

>>509626835
>The toilets are literally the same ones.
They didn't have them on Apollo, rookie
Get better

>>509620041 (OP)
Chapel Bell Experiment

>>509627928
And what about the other 5 times that the US landed on the moon?
Why do you people focus only one one single astronaut and ignore the other 11 who also walked on the Moon?

>>509627226
>>509627946
if the curve of the earth would make those come out of alignment, it would do so at all viewing locations
it does not, as you can see from this image of the same turbines, that they follow the perspective lines

>>509628006
Oh you are talking about the fictional artemis 2 launch that has not happened yet, with the toilets that have never been into space yet.
Got it.

>>509628018
Why don't you post an interview with them?

>>509628129
They are not far enough away to be obscured by the curve

Those windmills are incredibly in focus and large
Even the small fishing vessels are in sharp focus and show no indication of zoom
We also have no indication of the height of the observer

>>509628293
Do your own research

>>509628344
Ok, explain how eclipses wider than 200km happen

>>509620106
This the footage is undeniably fake.

>>509620041 (OP)
it wasn't but I've come to understand that debating it is useless.
if you're not hopelessly indoctrinated, you'll get it.
Some will never get it.
In the end, all conspiracy theories lead to more confusion. Don't waste your time.

>>509628398
>Retard trusts ChatGPT math
Here is a PhD Physicist walking you through the actual math, step by step
Surprising nobody, ChatGPT is using the incorrect formula and thus getting the incorrect answer
The maximum width of an eclipse shadow is 272km, well above the observed one that you are claiming is impossible
https://youtu.be/nZVLkuC9ILI?t=605

Pic related is what I did to calculate Earth/Moon distance using his method, knowing the shadow radius of that eclipse

>>509628344
Why did the mercury astronauts say the sun was in the wrong spot?

>>509628453
>(((YOU)))
baited

>>509627946
The archived posts I linked to here >>509626903 are words I personally wrote that directly relate to and address your inquiries regarding perspective, light attenuation, and the optical horizon. The fact that you refuse to even read the posts is admission that you cannot address or refute the arguments.

More importantly, I’ve actually conducted my own tests, observations and experiments. I’ve measured the earth for myself and personally confirmed it does not curve at the alleged rate. See:

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435656

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435684

Now, since you apparently value independent research so much, it’s your turn to post the curvature test that you’ve personally performed.. go ahead, I’ll wait.

If you haven’t measure the earth for yourself, then I’ll repeat the most important advice I can give you:

>DONT BELIEVE ME! I happen to be telling you the truth, but how could you even know that just from seeing my posts??

>You’d be absolutely moronic to just blindly believe anyone about the topic of where you are, what this reality is, and for what purpose you were put here. ffs, you don’t have to believe flat earthers. Get off your ass and go outside and test the globe’s claims for yourself. That is the ONLY way to become a real flat earther. Go try to confirm what you were told about this world. If you do, you will quickly realize that you were lied to.

>>509628453
>I sleep

>>509628614

>>509620041 (OP)
Yes.

>>509628708
calculators are fun

>>509628743
>believing jeet cgi
Show me 2 pictures from Chandrayaan that are of anything interesting that is not jeets sucking NASA's dick.

>>509628294
>>509625219
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36800777/#36803797

>muh wind turbines

Educate yourself:
Wind Turbines PROVE Flat Earth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNYIBqT1dGc

Search 4plebs as instructed itp: >>36800892
>go to 4plebs
>search “turbines educate”
See this:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/31164338/#31175250

https://youtu.be/7h7OcxsgxHw

>The turbines in your pictures are not below the horizon. That’s literally just how perspective works. Objects disappear from the bottom up as you move away from them.

>And, how about the fact that these turbines are visible WAYYYYYYY past where the horizon should be and this video disproves your conclusions about that picture quite concisely:
https://youtu.be/xRMMwcxtrPc

More on how reception and propagation angles work due to the laws of perspective.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36249665/#36260348

>>509620041 (OP)
>Can't go back because they apparently lost the technology
>All high definition video of the event was taped over apparently leaving only blurry grainy footage
I'm going with FAKE and GAY

>>509628961
Its worse, they never recorded the original transmission, they had to film the tv screen in mission control with another tv camera...

>>509628904
>Objects disappear from the bottom up as you move away from them.
Yes, because they are being blocked by the curve of the Earth
If you were somehow right, then as I watch an airplane flying away from me, it should disappear from the bottom up, right?
But it doesn't - you see the whole airplane getting smaller but the ratio of its size stays the same

Your position is indefensible

>>509628961

>>509629116
>just don't ask where 'safe' is

Curve confirmed
First law of flerf: Flerf citations always contradict the flerf’s claim. No exceptions.

>>509629345
>he doesn't know what the inverse square law is

>>509629345
because you are retarded, and most globies are, I have to spell it out in crayon form

>>509622373
They know how it works. There is a big difference between understanding something, and being able to build one. The technology that supported the moon landing required and entire industry that no longer exists.

Technology loss is a severe problem, due to the complexity of supply chains and skills and knowledge that only exist in peoples brains, technology loss is rapid. The only way to maintain a technology is to keep building it.

>>509628904
Windmill turbine meme refuted
https://youtu.be/FnNJUdp95K0?t=2250

>>509628708
are you literally retarded? the very post youre replying to links to a video of me personally filming it in which i pan down and you can see im right at the water. i literally explain it in the post...

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435684

webmrel (id change bc cant post webms while phonefagging)

are you a bot thats not capable of opening and interpreting archived posts or maybe the call center youre posting from doesnt allow you to visit any site other than the one youre shilling at? you also apparently weren't able to see any of the information in the 4plebs links i posted here either: >>509626903

genuine question: are you able to see my 4plebs links? why are you unable to open them and view the posts? are you even an actual anon?

>>509629085
again, why are you no addressing anything of the objective facts about perspective ive outlined in my posts? youre coming off as incredibly disingenuous.

>>509629734
this is just embarrassing unless you are getting paid
those jew tubers you link are getting paid for their sins

maps are fun

>>509625394
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40432810

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40432816

>>509629734
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40281798/#40293055

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40281798/#40293402

>>509620103
>>509622933
>>509623124
>>509623321
>we lost this amazing technology >>509624487
fucking kek!

It was purpose-built to land on the Moon in 1/6th gravity
The tape is Kapton thermal tape
The crumpled foil is so that less of the foil is in contact with the hull of the lander, thus keeping it from heating up
https://youtu.be/kD49-n3jZaw?t=480

>>509628961

>Refraction has never been shown to make an object hidden behind physical obstruction to arch up and over the obstruction bringing it back into line of sight of the observer due solely to atmospheric refraction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lmmzvzz_Xs

>>509630629
>NO NO NO ITS SUPER HIGH TECH SCOTCH TAPE AND MAGIC STAPLES AND REALLY EXPENSIVE TIN FOIL JUST SHUT UP AND STOP QUESTIONING THE NARRATIVE YOU FLERFS ARE RUINING EVERYTHING!!!
yea that’s not gonna work. Already posted: >>509622933
Maybe Cope and seethe even harder and see if helps

>>509620041 (OP)
I didn’t know people were so fragile about the moon landing. The Rusbros put this “Smile that warmed up the Cold War” R1A Chad into space, the Slav became the first spacefaring race, and won the Space Race, so the Anglos and Jews that run America moved the goalposts, got a bunch of Masonic actors (typical) and filed the moon landing in a movie studio in Hollywood. Literally, as most things, 1) fake and 2) gay.

>>509630849
>-170c
>camera on flat surface at same height as object
what are you trying to even show?

>>509630849
>due solely to atmospheric refraction
>muh supercooled liquid nitrogen / butane
thats funny, i never noticed that our atmosphere is comprised of supercooled liquid nitrogen / butane. .. oh wait, its not, and your attempt at passing that video off as analogous to our atmosphere is yet another testament to your deceptive nature and further elucidates that you have not a shred of evidence to back any of your claims that refraction can magically allow you to see thru miles of alleged earth curvature lol


also, why do you keep ignoring my questions about your apparent inability to see/read external links being posted: >>509629754

>>509631418

>>509620041 (OP)
very fake
very gay