Thread 509631587

How come all civilizations all over the world, despite having drastically different cultures (even before they came in contact after colonization), came up to the fact that female chastity is a non negotiable for a sane society?

Only a few cucked civilizations known as matriarchy didn't implement rigourus control on female sexuality, well, guess what, 99% of those civilizations were wiped out by patriarcal ones, nowadays you still got some left like the Moso in China but they only thrive because Chinese patriarcal society tolerates them, they could obliterate them in a second should they wish so.

One can see the devastating effects that removing the promiscuity constraint on women have on such society, western societes are a testament to that.

No self respecting man would want a ran through woman to be the future mother of her children, it took decades of jewish propaganda to convince white men that marrying women with a high body count was somehow a good thing.

Pic related is a testament to the failure of the white man, this hoe shouldn't be dressing half naked although she was at the beach, normalizing this degeneracy is what lead us to our current demise.

sexual immorality and idolatry are the two sins that destroy nations

>>509631587 (OP)
>thailand

one can only speculate the incredible specimen posting anti-slut propaganda as he calls his first-world bank to allow for yet another ATM withdrawal to pay for another 100+ bodycount prostitute that he can fuck in a drunken stupor

Because human men evolved to have intense sexual jealousy and therefore converged on the idea of protecting women from one's competiton

>>509632052
Thailand is a prime example that proves my point

>>509631587 (OP)
Society is a contract between men and the collective: If I get a wife and children, the collective gets as much labor as I can give, up to and including the point of my death.

Female virginity is necessary to guarantee that I get my children. If my wife is not a virgin, then her children may not be mine, and I may not get children. Therefore, if I can't get my virgin wife, then I have less than or equal to NO reason to work myself to death for the collective.

>>509631587 (OP)
Because for most of history, paternity was always in question. By marrying a virgin you would ensure that at least your firstborn was related to you. That's why the firstborn had so many privileges.

>>509631587 (OP)
Whites are giga cucked. I had a childhood white British friend and we were extremely thick. Have a lot of great memories together and always had each other's back.

When we were 20 or so he met some whore and made her his gf. Then he knocked her up one day and I asked him wtf he was doing. He said it's ok. I told him to at least get married so that his daughter doesn't become a bastard and he said he didn't need to. I couldn't be friends with him anymore after that. Sorry Tom, if you can't respect yourself and your family then you're on your own buddy

>>509631587 (OP)
You're only a famous pioneer if you discover the land first. I want them to name a mountain after me, not be the Nth hiker on the same old beaten path.

You'd ideally like the most virgin land you can find for farming. Same logic applies for womba. Women really are all about the same thing. I don't want shitty dead barren land that's been plowed to death.

>>509631587 (OP)
>How come all civilizations all over the world, despite having drastically different cultures (even before they came in contact after colonization), came up to the fact that female chastity is a non negotiable for a sane society?
Because men eventually want children, and the person in the best position to ruin that is his wife. Female loyalty is the strongest metric men care about in a woman: any man who doesn't is either a sexual deviant, a liar, or some kind of mentally ill freak or fuckboy.

I'm willing to shelter, protect, care for, dote on, and in general put up with a woman and the stresses and problems that women create. But I want an absolute, unshakable guarantee that she will not betray me, that any children she births are mine, and I want a way out that doesn't harm me if she does betray me.

Any society that doesn't offer men this deal cannot expect those same men to be willing to fight for that society. Why should I pay taxes or die in wars for a government that wants me to be a cuckold? Why should any man? Absolutely not.

Thus the common cultural technology that is always developed: women are forced, through social pressures and legal consequences, to be loyal and to be virginal. In the most powerful and successful civilizations ever built, it was completely acceptable for a man to kill his wife if she cheated on him. It was acceptable in the West to do this up until the 2000s or so, and it's still potentially acceptable if you're clever with your legal defense (i.e. pleading temporary insanity or some other similar excuse).

Society REQUIRES, it MUST HAVE, the labor of competent (white) men who are willing to sacrifice their time, sweat, and blood for a greater good. The only way to compel that behavior was for society to promise significant perks for being a contributing member. Guaranteed ability to breed, guaranteed housing, guaranteed disposable income. All of these things were assured in the past. To lose them is to lose men.

>>509633362
>womba

>>509634288
great post, totally makes sense

>>509634288
typical incel fantasy
you want your muh society and government to give you a virgin because you are bilogoically and mentally inferior to get one yourself, as a true men do and did in the past

never in the past did society or government do this thing for you, you always had to do it yourself or arranged marriage through family, but never broad society or government

thats why you incels ramble about "any society that doesnt OFFER men this deal blabla.."
pathetic, who the fuck are you for a society to offer you anything you little weak useless parasite

>>509634723
Seething kike.

>GIVE ME YOUR LIFEBLOOD AND LABOR FOR FREE GOYIM
I just won't, that's all. I'm sorry, but you'll have to pay me. Paper inflationbux aren't real currency. Silver, land, and virgin pussy are. If I'm not allowed to have any of those things, then I just won't work for you.

>if you were a REAL man, you'd GET one
I'd be more than happy to marry a 12 year old girl, care for her and mentor her until she's sixteen, and then impregnate her. Society won't let that happen, though, you made it illegal. Jackboot thugs will literally invade my home and murder me if I behave like a "real man," so your gay jewish cries of 'man up' fall on deaf ears.

>who the FUCK are you, you weak little useless parasite!?
Someone relevant enough to piss you off.

>>509631587 (OP)
It's actually fine for women to be nude and so forth.
We germanics used to have a way of dealing with this called the weregild.
It's called FAFO insurance.
But forcing women to dress uncomfortably just to preserve monogamy? No no, there are better ways, that involve the blade, and the coin, lots of coin, to pacify the blade.

>>509631587 (OP)
>What's the rationale behind female virginity?
They don't want your nasty junk in their bodies, Simple as.

>>509633362
>I want them to name a mountain after me,
You better step up your game then. ..Okay

>>509631860
Letting women vote does that.

>>509631587 (OP)
Because it's disgusting that your woman was fucked by someone else.
It's not that deep, that's all there is to it.

>>509631587 (OP)
booba and sexo are good for a heterosexual male who lives outside the western degeneracy

>>509635781
European men are strangely non-sexual around nekkid and half-clothed women, I've noticed. Only when the female initiates overtly sexual behavior does the male then show any signs of arousement.

> How come all civilizations all over the world, despite having drastically different cultures (even before they came in contact after colonization), came up to the fact that female chastity is a non negotiable for a sane society?

Because paternity fraud is a thing and males historically had no reliable way to ensure their legacy except through virgins.

> Only a few cucked civilizations known as matriarchy didn't implement rigourus control on female sexuality, well, guess what, 99% of those civilizations were wiped out by patriarcal ones

Wrong. The west revolves in a gynocentric society. In every conceivable facet, males are disposable and the feminine-primary way of viewing, feeling, and thinking things is viewed as the "correct" one.

I encourage you to read The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi and educate yourself on the Red Pill. You have a lot of learning to do. It will be a tough pill to swallow, too.

>>509631587 (OP)
>Why
Biologically a virgin woman is the safest thing to bare your children. YOUR CHILDREN
There is zero chance that it's another guys if you break the hymen.
That's basically it, I mean there is other shit like women destroying their ability to pair bond, but that also factors into that.

Humans are kind of cucked biologically, most mammals with parental phases with the male being somewhat involved have the ability to recognize their own children by scent.

This is not the case with primates and likewise primates are almost all promiscuous breeders with different tactics to "win" in the game.
With humans, it's clearly intelligence (Compared to some monkeys who have special "pre-cum" that seal up the womb so the sloppy seconds have zero chance to impregnate)

>>509631587 (OP)
Before we had DNA testing, a womans virginity was important because the first time she was bred assured that the child is indeed from the husband, although even that doesn't prevent cuckoldry.

>>509636534
Germanic sexuality does allow women the freedom to choose, but it also enforces monogamy hardcore.
These are the niggers that send widows to die in the funeral pyres of their husbands.
Who skin women alive for cheating.

Other cultures are looser about these sex things.

>>509631587 (OP)
Purity is a feminine trait and logically, measurably, makes for better wives and mothers. A sullied woman is not fit for motherhood, she thinks more for herself and her own pleasure than serving her husband and children. The same is true of a manwhore, women would agree that that's no partner they'd want due to his wandering and hedonism. Yet they're all whores by their own metric of what makes a manwhore, and often way worse.

>>509636721
Nah.
It's more about the social consequences of letting female selectivity drive male competition.

>>509636971
In female chimpanzees, the female will mate with all males who demand it, against the whim of the alpha chimp. Males will kill baby chimps of females they have not mated with, they are infanticidal.

Now humans share the last common ancestor with chimps quite a while ago, and we know bonobo mating habits aren't as fucked.

But there is clearly some of of shared sexual history of promiscuity and with human woman, it seems to be a game of trying to fuck men with higher basic fitness while trying to be in a primary relationship with a male who can provide with her.
Beta bux, alpha fucks type shit.

Civilization used to do an alright job keeping women from doing that, by simply making it a risk to her her wellbeing and children.

>>509633270
Why'd you go back to Pakistan?

>>509631587 (OP)
Because every time you stop making virginity a necessary criterion to marriageable, foids go and ride the cock carousel until their eggs go bad. This not only makes a huge swath of the male population lonely and pissed off, but it also crushes fertility rates. This in turn would make your civilization vulnerable to neighboring invaders.

>>509639903
Birth control wasn't always this advanced. Women back then would just produce bastards and become leeches on their families.

>>509631587 (OP)
>How come all civilizations all over the world, despite having drastically different cultures (even before they came in contact after colonization), came up to the fact that female chastity is a non negotiable for a sane society?

If you've ever taken a girl's virginity, or that of multiple women. Then you understand. When a woman loses her virginity, she is bonded to that man either for life or for an extremely long time. Moving on from that man is very difficult for her. It can be done, and maybe she can have a successful relationship with the next guy. But it's rare. The ideal mating situation for humans is to date and find someone you fall in love with, but not have sex with them until a serious commitment has been made. The woman should love her husband fully, and vice versa

>>509631587 (OP)
Virginity before mariage is good for both the males and the females, because MST exist, and raising kids without the support of both parents often leads to catastrophe.

>>509639428
Yes, beta bux alpha fux is real.
Gorilla women don't touch gamma males, they're asexual or revert to homosexuality.
Chimp and Gorilla females fuck the new alpha as soon as he's established.

Humans don't come from chimps. Africans do.

Bonobos are not actually monogamous. It's complicated.
Women do level up mating while preserving chances to mate with alphas while trying to restrict beta access to fertility as much as possible after securing commitment.

Women are completely obsessed with the idea that husbands are socially locked-in providers, and so they are compelled to mate outside of marriage

>>509631587 (OP)
You guys are gonna ruin your own lives over this shit. Let it go. I did and it was the best decision of my life. Virginity is not important. Israel should be destroyed and all Jews eradicated.

>>509631587 (OP)
Yeah no shit. Just surf the Kali Yuga. Get yours like a boomer and shit in the face of every Juden Peterstein that objects.

Only men who are lacking sexual experience and confidence in that experience that they can perform, feel this way. Wake up. Get laid. Retards.

Even a virgin girl prefers a man who has experience. I know. I’ve taken a few v cards.

You know why you haven’t? Because you aren’t getting laid so no women want to sleep with you. Women know when you’ve been having sex. You look different to them.

>>509640336
Indeed, Peterstein. My life has only gotten better since I've let go — let go of the idea of marriage and family. Now I don't need to debtmaxx or simp or even work full time. Such immeasurable freedom and all it took was saying "fuck no" to tying myself to a vaginaperson.

>>509640370
No one cares simp. Also, less than 50% white nation LMFAO! I hope Mexico conquers you by the end of the century.

>>509631587 (OP)
females are support roles, females who support multiple men make for shitty support. You cant win a game if your support class is playing 5 games at the same time, can you?

>>509640458
I’m married. Best thing in my life I’ve ever done. Love is the most powerful emotion and drug on the face of the earth. If all people could have it, the world would be a much better place.

>>509640336
>guys pull yourself by cutting the rope
shalom

>>509631587 (OP)
telegony

>>509640517
Yeah and you're also cucked and probably overworked too, all for a woman that you didn't even deflower. I don't care what you do but stop vomiting bullshit here.

>>509640458
>>509640531
These are IDF

>>509640563
And yet you sound exactly like Juden Peterstein (as does every cuckmaxxer).

>>509640562
I work 40 hours a week but I’m proud. I couldn’t do it without her. I only work that hard because she wants to have lots of kids with me and I’m gonna need good money so my kids get a nice computer and all the shit they want.

>>509640608
Good, good — for your kids. Wouldn't wanna be ya. I don't think anyone would. Slave psychology.

>>509640594
Israel should be destroyed and Judaism eradicated. Hunt down and slay every Jew. Except like Dave smith and Rob Schneider

>>509640650
Don't forget brother Nathaniel.

>>509640632
I’m sorry you are too ugly/stupid/disabled to have love in this life. It’s punishment for your previous crimes. This life is for suffering in some atonement for your previous lives crimes. You could always kill yourself to move on to the next life faster but maybe you end up serving double sentence :/

Love is real and it’s the purpose of life. At least for me. Sucks to be you niggers.

>Birth control pill let women whore around without consequences.

Your thought on this anon?

>>509640718
Giga cope.
You're working 40hrs a week for sloppy seconds (probably thirty-seconds). There is no dignity in your life — only cope. Meanwhile, I'm completely free and not stupid enough to believe in "love". "Your" woman wouldn't even look at you if you were broke and unemployed when you met here. You're just an ATM.

>>509640774
Very bad. Not the whoring I don’t care about that. The chemicals are extremely damaging psychologically to women. It’s probably why you struggle to deal with them. Yes this you get me on. It’s a big problem for their bodies and minds. The promiscuity really doesn’t matter but you’ll have a panic attack because I say this.

>>509640815
I love you too anon. Don’t be so angry and unhappy all the time. It’s unattractive.

>>509640844
>>509640865
You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

I think you've embarrassed yourself enough that I don't need to convince anyone anymore. Peace Cuckmann.

People have always been having sex forever throughout history. Grow up. Get laid. Stop being a stunted in development 16 year old your whole life because you are afraid to be bad at sex a couple times. You’ll get better at it I promise. D

>>509640029
>Women back then would just produce bastards and become leeches on their families.
they would sometimes just straight up kill their babies. women are evil
>and become leeches on their families.
this is another reason why this shit wasn't so easy in the past. A roastie mooching off her boomer parents is a burden, but not one that boomers can't afford; food's cheap and school provides free daycare. In a pre-industrial society, some whore with multiple little bastards would be an actual starvation threat to whoever she tried to parasitize.

>>509631587 (OP)
Well, from a biological point of view, people often say that the fewer sexual partners someone has, the lower the risk of STDs. But also historically, many societies emphasized it to ensure things like paternity certainty and control over inheritance basically, to make sure a man’s children were really his.

>>509640925
Youll be okay anon.

>>509640844
Birth control devices should be banned unless you're married that can probably stop western women being turbo whores they are.

>>509639717
I was always in Pakistan. My family just owns a lot of assets in the west so my father made us live in the UK for a year or so when I was young where I made some friends. No offense but I wouldn't want to live in the west.

>>509641007
I disagree. I only think hormonal birth control is a problem.

>>509641010
>wouldn't want to live in the west
Is it mostly because of the degenerate culture now?

>>509640989
also busting a nut in a fresh tight pussy is pretty rad

>>509641104
He won't be able to diddle little boys and goat in west kek.

>>509641061
Are you a kike wanting women to be degen whore?

>>509641010
Let me guess, military background

>>509641104
No there are parts of the west where there are decent and moral people. The only time I would ever want to live in the west was late 90s to early 2000s because video games would release and get here much later. Sometimes in the past I would take a flight to UK just before some games release so I could buy it day one. Now everything is available here anyways so no big deal.

But otherwise the west never really felt like home. Feels very solitary and individualistic.

>>509641372
Nope business. Military brats aren't even that rich, it's bureaucratic and business families that actually have wealth. You guys get fed too much nonsense propaganda about this place.

>>509641326
It’s always the Jews pushing the
>WHITE MEN only fuck the finest VIRGINS and NO OTHER WOMEN
propaganda and they call me out but they will never say
>israel must be destroyed and Jews annihilated from the face of the earth

Do whatever you want dudes. I’m just telling you love is real and it’s better than anything you’ll find here.

They want you to be single forever looking for a virgin girl who doesn’t exist so you go extinct and black/brown dudes get to fuck everyone. It’s so obvious.


You get what you deserve I suppose.

>>509641385
Based.
The gringos could never understand that their "FURST WURLD CUNTRYS" isn't what everybody desires, and the reason why they get so many "low iq browns" is because they literally get the bottom of our societies, the good people of our own nations stay because we have a good life

>>509641518
>You get what you deserve I suppose.
We deserve non-virgins? Why? Maybe you do, but the rest of us deserve better. The huwite race can go to hell as far as I care.

>>509640331
>Humans don't come from chimps
Correct, we share an ancestor with chimps, one that was close in appearance to chimps.

It's funny you mention Africans, because sub-saharans (bantu) have a completely different mating habit compared to all other humans, where the women do all the gathering and the men occasionally hunt, but mostly posture at each other and rape nonstop and don't actually raise their kids.

Obviously beta bux alpha fucks doesn't really apply to them the same way as it does for modern humans because men don't provide lmao, they "Select" by killing each other and posturing with the most postured male getting away with the most rape.

Instead, Beta bux alpha fucks is a more of an issue with advanced humans, where men desire to father their children.

>>509641607
My wife isn’t and wasn’t a virgin. I’m not white. I’m just trying to help. You are obviously doing just fine on your own without a woman LMAO

>>509631587 (OP)
It is primarily of economic reasons. In the past, if an unmarried woman had a child, it would be her sole responsibility to care for the child.

Another reason is the spread of sexual disease such as syphilis, which in general have made societies shun promiscuous behavior.

Contraception, abortion, antibiotics and state sanctioned child care have largely made these social morals irrelevant.

>>509641385
>Feels very solitary and individualistic.
It's true, at least here. People don't have many friends.

Bunch of normal stable dudes in here lmao nothing to see. I would TOTALLY hire you guys to work at my small business or office lmfaoooooo ;)


You guys don’t understand shit about the world and are still like 21 years old.

>>509641448
What will you do if military decides to take over your wealth seize everything? Kill you? Last I heard military rules over pakistan.

No one trusts unmarried single people over 30. You are fucked up losers. Unspoken. Just because there are more of you now doesn’t make you special or less of a loser.

>>509641656
>I’m not white.
All I needed to read. Sudaca?
>I’m just trying to help.
enslave innocent men to cunts.*
>You are obviously doing just fine on your own without a woman LMAO
Dude you're working 40hrs a week to support a woman other men have fucked. Get real cuckspic. You also posted here more than I did, so who's obviously not doing fine?

You ARE the roasties. You are male roasties.

>>509641671
>Syphilis
You're not wrong anon, but Syphilis comes from the americas.
I mean native Americans did have a concept of marriage that probably understood that, but if you're tracing it the history of western civ is was probably The Clap

>>509641719
No one is fucking roastie. Whores will die childless and alone. Enjoy your stds kek.

>>509631587 (OP)
I'd say it's very likely that in unrecorded history the problem with promiscuity was discovered and solved with patriarchal societies.

>>509641774
So most women then?

>>509641814
I’m working 40 hours a week because I want the money. You act like it’s a bad thing. I was a neet for 5 years. You think I don’t know what your life is like? Don’t kill yourself or drink or smoke too much right now. Please go to the gym and stop jerking off as much as you do. Try to limit it to like 3-4 times a week.

>>509641871
I feel bad that you feel emboldened to publicly cope like this. Only here where tons of other incels will defend it.

>>509641891
Anyone over 30. If women are getting married.. then neither are men? Takes two people dumbass.

>>509641892
So you were a NEET and almost killed yourself? About what I expect from a mentally inferior non-European. I myself never smoked or drank (regulary) and every muscle on my body is distinguishable by it's form. I jerk off every other day purely mechanically (no porn) just to empty my balls because I've already transcended sexual desire. You're nothing but a spic goblin cuck faggot spazzing out on /pol/. Go infest the rest of jewSA, sudaca.

>>509631587 (OP)
All you have to do is pay attention to how women behave to realize why their virginity needs to be enforced unto marriage

>>509641683
A lot of people that move to the west are basically leeches. They see the facilities, the DEI initiatives, the free healthcare, education, housing and bennies. Moving to the west is like a golden ticket in life. But it's like getting a job with high income but you hate every single second of your life while you do it.

>>509641766
Then you should stop consuming Godi media all the time. The military plays its own role and is important for the survival of the country. The majority of the wealth is with the business class, then with the bureaucrats for obvious reasons, then with the politicians. The military and judiciary has clout and other benefits. All these classes or groups intermarry for political, social and economic gain. Don't think things are so base and retarded as palki Sharma puts it.

>>509641992
Yes I almost killed myself while I was neeting. I was so depressed without purpose and meaning to my life I just started making stupider and stupider decisions trying to feel something. Nothing was fun anymore because I ruined my own life and the anxiety of it destroyed all my enjoyment of everything.


It took a lot of work to fix myself and I try it help other anons now. I’ve been completely honest with you and totally genuine. I have not insulted you one time and truly hope that whatever pain makes you feel the way you do is resolved one day. Good luck anon.


Virginity doesn’t matter.

Love is real too.

>>509642167
I insult you because you're passive aggressive and insinuate things about me, and also call men losers and what not for not being cucks like you. Don't act all wounded now. You're mentally weak and couldn't handle not slaving away like you're nothing but a biorobot. Don't project your weaknesses on others.

>>509642024
What about those loan you're taking from USA and China? How are you even going to repay them you certainly can't and have to be submissive bitch of jewsa and china. A failed state.

>>509632107
Evolutions happen because it benefits the species. Men and women. That’s why a patriarchal society is better. It’s natural to be that way for everyone’s benefit.

>>509642281
You’re right anon. I’m glad you are living the life you want to be living.

>>509642282
Pakistan has a debt to GDP ratio of 69%
USA is at 124%

>>509642281
And they are losers anon. I would smash every one of your heads with a rock without regret or second thoughts. I would push the button to kill all incels so fast. I would hunt you down and fuck you in the street. You are a waste of resources and life, only meant to slave away for real humans like my wife and I. I will always look down on you and spit.


Since I cannot eradicate you… I must help you.

1. Pair bonding - she released a surge of oxytocin that she will never have again
2. You have to assume she’s done a hookup before (how can she prove otherwise if she’s not a virgin?)
So let me get this straight- when she was young, hot and fertile - guys got to fuck her for free without commitment - but now that she’s older, uglier, less fertile, now she’s making you pay for their scraps? No thanks, dog

>>509642282
You do know that India and Pakistan's debt to GDP ratio is similar, right? And the US has an even worse ratio. Pakistan is blessed with a great location, has a lot of untapped resources including the labor, and decent relations with neighbours other than India. We aren't at the most terrible spot.

It’s disgusting and shameful. You bring shame to men as a whole and it’s up to guys like me to either fix or kill you.

>>509642315
>>509642424
Kek.

Keep seething. I'm going on with my day.

>>509642512
Keep living the life you want to be living anon!

>>509631587 (OP)
Men have no problem having sex with slutty women but if they want us to make a long term investment in them then we want it when they are at peak fertility so we can make many babies and for them to have not been banged by lots of other men because it's gross
it's just biology and it's an uphill struggle trying to fight that
it's like me bitching that women love men who are really tall when I'm normal height
they are just programmed to be height supremacists so it's better to just accept that and try to somehow wi anyway

Fucking dumbass loser

>>509631587 (OP)
>implying some shit
>ignoring how big fertility festivals were in multiple pagan societies
But it wasnt?

>>509631587 (OP)
because you want to make sure your kids are yours.

>>509631587 (OP)
They didn't have DNA tests, they wanted to know the kids are theirs. Also, venerial diseases, sure, you can get them from your parents, but it's better if both parties in the marriage were virgins.

>>509634723
Retarded cuck rant

>>509642456
Young well presented women have always found it easier to get sexual partners than young men their own age. The balance comes when they become a roastie and divorce rape their husband - north of 40yo with a couple of kids and she isn't going to be rooting Chad anymore. There is little sexual demand for those women

>>509636940
>These are the niggers that send widows to die in the funeral pyres of their husbands.

This is based and anyone who has a problem with this is a bitch and a faggot and should be burned at the stake as such

>>509640815
you are coping extremely hard. and sound like you got the short end of genetics.

the other anon is correct you suffer cuz you did crimes in your past.

>>509631587 (OP)
>Pic related is a testament to the failure of the white man, this hoe shouldn't be dressing half naked although she was at the beach, normalizing this degeneracy is what lead us to our current demise.
You were right until this retarded line. She could be naked for all we care, thats not important. She just has to pair bond for life with her first man, thats the thing that matters.
Nudity is not degenerate.

>>509633270
Fat fucks

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>>509642282
I like this thread shows the difference between Pakistani And Pajeets Anon, it's fucking unreal

>>509634723
Incels making demands when there’s no want or need. Polcels can literally disappear and no one would gaf. They’d be worse than that c-rated loser gene hackman and his ugly wife dead for weeks and no one gaf. At least they eventually found gene hackman. Polcels be mummified and the only way they’d be discovered is because the building would be torn down. Even momma doesn’t care about polcels. Neither fluffy or old yeller. No one. Polcels just stay in the closet of eternity.

>>509636966

The seed of a manwhore is the most valuable to a woman who wants children and although maybe a manwhore is considered less reliable of post-partum support, in nature a father has zero input to providing resources beyond semen and enforced monogomy is only valuable for men who want children in order to ensure parentage

Women obviously don't have this problem so enforced monogomy is pointless unless the only way their hideous-ass ass can reproduce is by denying men access to younger and prettier girls

nobody thinks a high body count is good, but people don't care if she's not a virgin. it's not like it's ruined.

>>509631587 (OP)
You would understand this >>509633362 if you had a cock that could pleasure her. Mine's so engorged right now I could plow a rhino's fat cunt, nevermind that hot piece of vag.
Any man who even puts a discussion like this deserves to get cucked.

>>509631587 (OP)
I don't know if /pol/ can still read, but this guy took research on that to another level:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Unwin

Read these:
Sexual Regulations and Human Behaviour. London: Williams & Norgate, 1933.
Sex and Culture. London: Oxford University Press, 1934.

Basically, the more promiscuity, the less motivation to do anything. Suddenly people get lazy, culture degenerates, civilizations fall. Unwin tries to prove that on historical evidence of various cultures. A must read if you wanna delve into this topic.

>>509635628
Quastion anon your IQ
P.s christ is kimg im datimh a bpd brainwashed whore and evertjing checks out (the thing is all kikes are whores)

I don't know how else to say it, but when I'm talking to a woman with a view to date them (or even *on* a date) and I find out she's in "talking stages" with other guys and fucking her ex, they just become completely invisible to me. Like my motivation to interact with them in any way evaporates.

>>509631587 (OP)
reduces fights between men

>>509642288
>Evolutions happen because it benefits the species.
It benefits the species because it happened..... natura non constristatur

>>509631587 (OP)
A consequence of men being stronger and having no guarantee that their offspring is truly theirs. The ones who valued virginity or enforced it were more likely to successfully procreate than those who paid little to no attention.
Add to this killing off cheating whores and bastard children (or lowering their social status, which on longterm drastically lowers their chances to survive and procreate) and you have a system in place where female virginity is highly valued.

The cult uses a bastard they put put in my family to spy on me and drain my family of money

He uses my mom to spy on me directly

Absolutely sure he’s a fag wanting to butt fuck me too

They are trying to enslave me as they do and have been accused of many times around the world but they work under the government

>>509641719
>Bunch of normal stable dudes in here lmao nothing to see. I would TOTALLY hire you guys to work at my small business or office lmfaoooooo ;)
>You guys don’t understand shit about the world and are still like 21 years old.
>31 posts by this ID

I'm just not attracted to women who fuck other men. You didn't even marry the guy and you gave up your pussy, christ now a bunch of them don't even get to the girlfriend stage before fucking but expect me to think she's special, marriage material, that I want her as mother of my kids? If everyone pays £10 for a ticket to a film it's fine. If the guy before me paid £2, I'm not paying £10 on principle. You set the price.

>>509631587 (OP)
>What's the rationale behind female virginity?
Women imprint and their ability to pair bond diminishes as her umber of partners increases.

>>509631587 (OP)
you're gay if you touch something where another mans cock has been

>>509633270
all this shit was forced on our countries and when they're done with us they'll be working harder on forcing it on you (or something even worse)

>>509649101
Had I not lived with you guys I might've believed you.

>>509633270
>Whites are giga cucked.
They are coming for your culture next.

>>509633270
Based paki

>>509649430
you have no idea how much better our countries were just 100 years ago nevermind 1200 years ago before a certain tribe infiltrated us

>>509632992
So you can't be sure any of the children after your first-born are yours then?

>>509649578
A little accountability goes a long way. The Jews didn't come and grab you by the penis and force you to have intercourse with everyone you could. They suggested it, you took the bait and here we are. I'm sick of this blame game playing.

Is it acceptable if the pakis that raped the girls in UK say that "ohh the girls were just too hot if they weren't always infront of us we wouldn't have raped them! you should've seen us 100 years ago our ancestors were all within the bounds of marriage!" Of course not.

>>509649691
it's a lot more likely they're also yours, and 1 is better than 0

>>509649800
they have been pushing shit slowly for 1200 years, if they had been doing that in your country for that long it would have had the same effect
i agree though that they themselves can only lie and manipulate and people need to stop falling for their tricks
they were doing this shit in Rome 2k years ago before Jesus btfo them by bringing the truth

>>509649800
>A little accountability goes a long way. The Jews didn't come and grab you by the penis and force you to have intercourse with everyone you could. They suggested it, you took the bait and here we are. I'm sick of this blame game playing.
Why are you blaming me for this? I do not and I don't agree with this way of living.

>>509649863
Probably not. The culture here is quite rigid and extremely patriarchal. Despite it becoming a criminal offense to get your children married before 18 here, people still do it. They try but it fails miserably

>>509650302
>The culture here is quite rigid and extremely patriarchal
it used to be that way here too, don't drop your guard

>>509634723
I would agree with you if his inceldom was an outlier and not the new norm. You're arguing for a society where 10% get to have sex and procreate. That's just not going to work.

>>509646261
Fucking 2008 called they want that stale ass meme back

>>509650414
he's right you know.jpg

>>509631587 (OP)
There is a abo tribe in Australia that say they use arranged marriages to stop single motherhood.

There is no support for that.

Women are fucking stupid and can't make their own decisions ever.

>>509632052
>100+ body count
So he’s getting girls new to the scene? Nice.

>>509633270
>we were really good friends
>I abandoned him because of something he did that I think was a mistake
With friends like you…

>>509650351
I'm sure it was but there just isn't any comparison. The culture has been like this here since pre Islamic era. We also have certain low iq ethnicities that resort to violence even at perceived degeneracies

>>509641943
Dang, Tyrone ain't back yet?

>>509650664
>The culture has been like this here since pre Islamic era.
The exact same goes here. Germanic society was very strict on marriage. You're right about the IQ though, intelligence often leads to hubris. People can entertain lies and do mental gymnastics less intelligent people couldn't.

>>509631587 (OP)
You're 100% sure the kid is yours, and the woman has no STDs. You also have a peace of mind not needing to think which one of her friends she was fucking and possibly still is because once people fuck, they don't need foreplay to fuck again.

>>509635628
>>509634288
based
>>509634723
this is a woman or a jew

>>509650639
You wouldn't get it. It's a dignity thing.

>>509631587 (OP)
actually there’s one matriarch group left and they currently run the entire world and lead every country. so you’re wrong

>>509641719
>Bunch of normal stable dudes in here lmao nothing to see. I would TOTALLY hire you guys to work at my small business or office lmfaoooooo ;)


>You guys don’t understand shit about the world and are still like 21 years old.

>>509651051
I get it. You can judge people by the company they keep, so it looks bad on you for hanging around people like that.
He's a retard for implying it's wrong to cut those people out of your life. Don't abandon people who are struggling and desperate in hard times, fairweather friends are scum. But 100% cut people off if they make immoral choices.

>>509651051
I don't think you necessarily did the wrong thing but consider that a lot of the women here are like that and we'd be extinct if we just gave up. The most whorish woman's daughter is still born a virgin.

>>509631587 (OP)
A prize for the husband

>>509631587 (OP)
>>509631860
Wtf are you me?

>>509651201
No I don't care about how I'm looked at. He had every opportunity to do the right thing. I offered him money to get a simple ceremony done or just go to court and get a court marriage and legitimize his daughter. He wasn't struggling at all. from what I've heard he's still coasting in life just fine and has added another bastard to the roster.

>>509649691
>you can't be sure any of the children after your first-born are yours
Yes you can because you have a reference. And if they're not you always have the option of repudiating the wife and get a new one.

>>509634723
This would be relevant IF it was only a small portion of men. However, the statistics are showing that an enormous amount of men are dropping out of society, and the reasons he listed are why. A society's literal purpose is to provide those things for the men who make up the society - if it does not, that society is not worth working for or defending.

Men make civilization. They make it to benefit themselves and their own interests. If the civilization decays to the point it no longer benefits the men who built it, they abandon it and it collapses. This is simple historical reality whether you like it or wish it were different or not.

You ask him "who the fuck cares about incels?" They ask you in return: "who the fuck cares about you?"

>>509651521
I said it looks bad, I don't mean about how others look at you. I mean it looks bad as in, it looks like you accept/tolerate or support that kind of behavior. You may not support it, but if you're around that kind of thing, you're not really against it are you. It's not about public perception of you.

>>509649800
>They suggested it,
And shamed you into a social outcast if you didn't.

>>509651732
Shamed how? Shame is a tool used by men to control women, not the other way around. A woman calls you an incel call her a whore, she calls you a virgin tell her her vagina are deeper than the caverns of eternity. You don't let them flip the script on you

Guarantees male participation and reproductive rights. Why would men work/protect their country if its not going to provide a virgin women who will give him legitimate children

Two virgin women are the only one capable of genuine love and affection. After being used up they lose their ability to pair bond and every relationship afterwards becomes purely transactional

>>509640608
>I work 40 hours a week but I’m proud. I couldn’t do it without her.
You wouldn't *need* to do it without her

>>509631587 (OP)
its mate guarding bevor of loser males
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/monogamy/mate-guarding-and-the-evolution-of-social-monogamy-in-mammals/5D8801D84739F7F76DCF989E18401876#

>>509642315
You talk like a woman

>>509631587 (OP)
You're talking pre-Industrial Revolution, Patriarchy only exists in the third world. Feminism is a consequence of the Post-Industrial Society.

>>509632052

>100+ body count

Those are civilian figures. Pros hit that within half a year. You’re a virgin.

You guys forget that there was a second stable nash equilibrium in history. There were also stable societies where women were treated as chattel and you'd get married by kidnapping one. Those also lasted for thousands of years.

The reason societies ever offered men anything was in order to make cooperation a more promising strategy than violent competition. If things keep getting worse, eventually some percentage of men will decide that kidnapping women and chaining them to the radiator in the basement is a safer strategy than marriage. People talk about collapse, but society collapses for each man the second he decides to start thinking like a woman and disregarding the consequences of his behavior on others.