We are at a crossroad. The industrial technological society is currently negotiating its future, and this is one of the well anticipated windows of opportunity to pressure it and potentially set its demise in motion. Everyone who wishes to participate in the industrial society has fully accepted the technological advancements, yet because constant expansion is baked into the system itself, contraction is not an option. Further expansion is now only possible by new technological creations, but in its hubris the industrial society has removed from the invention and technology creation process the specific people who are able to provide this. As such the very stability of the industrial society is now under question.

It is our opinion that the industrial society must fall before it is able to reconfigure itself and irreversibly destroy human and environmental future.

>>509652057 (OP)

>So, what is your worldview?
>Oh, somewhere between Ted Kascinsky, Pentti Linkola and Konrad Lorenz ...

Half joking but the dilemma still can not be solved politically. We do not negotiate with dysgenic systems.

>>509652057 (OP)
Industrial society solutions like having everyone drive around in battery cars is so deluded and evil. The argument that our environment smells because of gasoline emissions so we'll create an environmental disaster in a part of the environment you can't see is the work of the morally bankrupt. See pic rel for a standard brine lithium extraction operation.

When we state that the continued expansion of the Industrial society must me thwarted, we are concerned about how its own proposals such as mobilising its now billions of participants with technologies that irreversibly destroy the natural environment.

>>509652486
Ironically a slow down dynamic and a political movement that the system is repulsed by the most, and for obvious reaaon, is increased nationalist sentiments and a rejection of further globalisation.

While we wish for a more extreme barrier to the sustained expansion of the technological element of industrial society, a contraction in the form of nationalist borders, national and local interest governance and a neutering of the globalist banker and industrial complex, is a genuine and valid political solution.

>>509652486
>We do not negotiate with dysgenic systems.
The purpose of threads like this and my presence here is to engage the participants of the system, who may be starting to be aware of its short comings, and wondering if there may be another path to tread before its too late. It is not our position to blame, vilify or antagonise those who are caught up in the industrial society and are now victims of its consequences.

>>509653026

Correct in a way, but the whole thing is compromised to a depth where slow shift would either fail or just come too late. Could only see a success rate in outright secession. Which likely would leave us with a lot of logistical headaches.

>>509653360

Very good point here! Victim blaming has become much too common in this place and it contributes little except pointing out that the whole shitshow only keeps running on the inertia of the victims. It is still a trolley dilemma except we must assume the "victims" are not even tied up ... they are simply unaware of standing right on the damn tracks! Some might wonder about the train noises in the distance but have not made the connection yet (and sadly some never will).

>>509652057 (OP)
And then...

Manus AI enters the room.

https://manus.im/invitation/PA1BMI5K2LPP

The AI that can write you a book in 15 minutes or build you an app, test, debug, and deploy from a thoughtful prompt.

>>509654050
>Some might wonder about the train noises in the distance but have not made the connection yet (and sadly some never will).
This is a good analogy. I do think participants of the system though are better placed now than ever to make the connections, and i tried to articulate that is my op regarding technology adoption.

Even a decade ago, many technologies were still in the opional stage. Today if you don't have an email, a smart phone, a bank account, even a car for many, the system alienates. By intention of the cultural engineers I think, this alienation is being particularly strongly felt by formerly strong participants or the siblings of strong participants to the expansion of the industrial society.

This supports our view that now is an emerging window of weakness for the industrial society at large as a certian thinking demographic start to be aware of the "train and the tracks".

That said, another purpose for creating this thread, was to gauge that sentiment, on a Sunday, amongst Mongolian basket weaving enthusiasts. This thread will die with only participants and my disappointment is fortified.

>>509655294

The system is weak and it is semi aware of it. Tries to cement its own continuity through monopolization. Alternatives could emerge but right now getting off the gridlock of its tracks is difficult.

>nobody seems to care about this thread

I know that feeling...