Thread 509655062

Buddha doesn’t cope, he stripped away every illusion, sat with suffering, and didn’t blink. No gods, no hope, no stories, just silence, detachment, and the death of craving.

>>509655062 (OP)
Truf.
Though Buddhism syncretised with local religions wherever it spread, so people praying to Buddhas is a thing.

>>509655181
It works.

Only you can awaken yourself but if you care or are suffering or afraid they will help.

>>509655349
I'm sorry I just don't believe in all that because I'm Buddhist.

>>509655488
The Buddha helped when we were suffering and afraid, here and now. If there's a there and then, they won't ever abandon us.

That's the point.

>>509655488
>488
vs
>>509655554
>meaningless babble

Hmm, it seems like I won this debate.

>>509655062 (OP)
It's all about cope with suffering because you have no God. Sad state to be in. No purpose, and no one care.

>>509656005
forgot picrel
>>509656011
It's arguable whether faith in God is a cope, but the idea that you can wrap your head around and known anything about him with your limited mortal mind is total cope.

>>509656011
You’re so fragile you need divine purpose, cosmic attention, and eternal life just to make it through the day. You need a sky daddy to make the pain mean something.

You can’t even face reality without your imaginary dad holding your hand.

>>509656303
Love is the only thing that matter. You are coping because you have no one to love, or to love you. Man is willing to go to Hell in the name of Love.

>>509656011
>Worship my jew
Nah

>>509656674
>Love matters
>Yahweh drowns the world and promotes selling your daughter into slavery
Kek

>>509656674

how deep can your love go?

>>509656674
You're fundamentally incapable to accept your mortality. You don't accept God because of love but because of a chance at an afterlife.
If you could only choose between Hell and nothingness, you'd choose Hell without thinking.
Buddhism is the total opposite of this cope, Buddhism is about accepting that there is an end and there's nothing you can do about that but you can take that as a fundamental truth and improve on everything else.

>>509656937
There is no point for the world to exist when the creation hate its own creator. It's understandable.

>>509657125
>Creator
No such thing

>>509656005
I didn't realize there was a conflict.
>>509656983
The Buddha taught an end to suffering, but not an end. He delineated what he taught from annihilationism/nihilism at several points.

>>509657211
Every single creation has its creator.

>>509655062 (OP)
>no gods
>no stories
not very familiar with buddhism but doesn't it have a bunch of stories with the buddha like fighting demons and shooting fire and shit

>>509657287
Do you personify everything?

>>509657287
Who created your Creator?

>>509657287
Ex Nihilo.

Was Nihilo the creator?

>>509657486
God

>>509657624
Oh which one? Quetzalcoatl?

>>509657299
No, but it does have many stories of him interacting with devas, supernatural beings, and performing several different things that could be called miracles. The twin miracles (he did emit fire), several times he distorted space, like with Angulimala pursuing him.

There is a supernatural component to Buddhism, but there were no legendary kung fu battles with him blasting demons.

>>509657624
>This is a theistic argument

>>509657685
The Alpha and Omega.

>>509657716
And? Love is the only thing that matter.

>>509657829
>This is a theistic response

Westerners have the most retarded view of buddhism. It's not some noble thing, these guys think that if they step on an ant they'll go to hell where they'll have molted lead poured into their assholes for hundreds of thousands of years.

>>509657799
Never heard of it, sounds made up. Where'd you come up with this ridiculous genie?

>>509657900
>You don't understand Buddhism
>Biggest charicature of Buddhism

>>509657866
Am I wrong or what? Keep coping with your meaningless life without God.

>>509657220
Yes, he did. Every flight must end, but instead of crashing the Buddha showed how to land gracefully.
>>509657829
Love is cope. Compassionate indifference is where it's at.

>>509658016
Yes, you are wrong.

>>509657958
It is true, these people don't live this philosophy because it's noble, they have the same superstitions as all other religions that forces them to act like that

>>509658137
Source: trust me bro
What Buddhist texts have you read?

>>509658016
I'm not the one that wants something for good behavior
I thought the good behavior was logical and worth doing on it's own
I'm just letting new fags see how the only thing preventing you from lashing out is the thought of a prize

>>509658137
These people don't live "that" philosophy because what you percieve as "that" philosophy is an incorrect impression of what these people actually understand.
Does that make sense?

>>509658183
Yes, the only thing that prevent me from being a mass murderor is God. You have no reason to exist in my reality whatsoever.

>>509658178
The oldest Buddhists texts mention hell

>>509658292
You don't understand naraka

>>509658268
>Yes, the only thing that prevent me from being a mass murderor is God. You have no reason to exist in my reality whatsoever.
I think you worship Khorne by your description

Ignore the Templar flag, he goes around larping as Gods favorite because he's bored.
>>509655062 (OP)
I love Buddhism, I think Jesus was a Buddha and people misunderstood his message. I also think Hinduism and Vajrayana hold the keys to Buddhahood.

>>509658016
Look,
basically I'm just not gonna worship it (your jewish rabbi from Israel!!)

I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know..... UGH I know.....

It's just that I don't believe that jews are gods, that's all!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>509658394
You are not wrong.

>>509658268
And you're talking to people who would behave well even if a manifest god was incentivizing evil. What we're doing is based on something inherent in us.
So the difference in this debate about ethics is that your behavior is based on outside factors and you're seething that we don't require that.

>>509658460
Lol cringe

>>509658332
Enlighten me then

>>509658524
I love my God.

>>509658645
And who gives a fuck?

>>509658736
Told you. Love is the only thing that matter.

>>509658792
I asked you who gives a fuck, you can't point to yourself.

>>509655062 (OP)
Buddhism is the saddest religion. Attaining Nirvana basically has no use. Since you don’t have a soul, nor do you actually reincarnate. It’s only your good or bad karma that exists. This karma then latches on to another being, but that being isn’t you.

>>509659133
I can do whatever the fuck I want. Including genocide the entire human race.

>>509658599
Naraka is a state of being. Buddhism rejects the concept of a permanent ego, and attribute the human experience to the 5 aggregates. So your existence and what happens before and after are the result of karma. There is no permanent soul to suffer endlessly, just the happenings as a result of reality's flow

>>509659244
there isn't a you, that's an illusion caused by grasping

>>509659244
You're missing the point then. The ego isn't you, all of reality is.

>>509659307
Stop jerking off gore, dude

can't just take 5-meo-dmt instead of effort?

>>509659497
Killing an NPC in vidya does give me joy. Better in PvP games with humans.

>>509659363
>there isn't a you
Exactly. If there isn’t a me there isn’t a point.

>>509659657
Yeah nobody said Buddhism was good for low iqs

If you see the Buddha on the road, kill him.

>>509660281
What is the Buddha?

>>509659730
Ok, smartass, let's hear your high-IQ explanation, then? Why would I care to attain nirvana if my awareness won’t feel the consequences of my good or bad deeds in the next life?

>>509660622
Nirvana is the cessation of Samsara (rebirth).
You're not reborn once you attain Nirvana.

>>509660622
Because you're just a myopic egotist.
>Everything is meaningless unless every wish of my monkey brained ego is fulfilled!
Your entirely concept of identity is a farce.

>>509655062 (OP)
>suffering is your fault
>try doing nothing
Totally not a psyop used to domesticate people just like Christianity

>>509661017
>Implying there is a "you" in buddhism

>>509656303
nta, but...
did you think Christianity suggests man will comprehend God?

>>509661017
>>suffering is your fault
It's not a "fault", and not "your" anything. It's a basic fact.
>>try doing nothing
That's Taoism.

>>509661126
>nta
I know, you have a different ID.

>>509655323
>the FOUR truths
>actually there is whole 8 fold path supplementary material to read
What a fucking hack

>>509660805
Well, that’s the problem. Since there isn’t a you or a soul in Buddhism. Your awareness actually doesn’t get rebirthed. That means that consequences of good and bad deeds won’t be felt.