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Anonymous (ID: V5tgQ5fw) Sweden No.509675782 [Report] >>509675982 >>509676010 >>509676057 >>509676210 >>509676250 >>509676324 >>509676597 >>509676674 >>509678005 >>509678020 >>509678072 >>509678190 >>509678351 >>509678507 >>509678696 >>509679445 >>509680625 >>509682060 >>509682219 >>509682257 >>509682464 >>509684607 >>509684845 >>509685625 >>509686206 >>509686742 >>509686880 >>509687260 >>509687419 >>509687514 >>509688022 >>509690615 >>509691120 >>509691374 >>509691475 >>509691675 >>509692622 >>509693212 >>509693281 >>509693311 >>509694176 >>509694361 >>509694422 >>509694451 >>509694608 >>509695194 >>509695980 >>509697444 >>509698001 >>509698677
Did you vote for Dead Kids?
Anonymous (ID: ROGyCMCi) Bulgaria No.509675873 [Report] >>509691673
The weather service would have stopped a flood? It didn't stop any floods in the last 20 years lmao.
Stupid nigger
Anonymous (ID: STc7tl20) United States No.509675982 [Report] >>509681659 >>509687617 >>509688075 >>509688538 >>509696781
>>509675782 (OP)
I have posted this in many threads like this one and it remains UNDEFEATED
Anonymous (ID: nkzbitfJ) United States No.509676010 [Report] >>509688258
>>509675782 (OP)
You TDS idiots are pathetic. You bitch and whine like faggots about everything except what Trump's real crime: genocide, mass murder and treason against the USA for israel.
Fuck you kike Assholes and your kike diversion bullshit. This is just lies and your poison well trick
Anonymous (ID: ySn6PLfr) United States No.509676057 [Report] >>509687499 >>509689778
>>509675782 (OP)
I have the same experience. Most republicans I know (friends, coworkers, neighbours) have all told me they regret voting for Trump. He promised lower egg prices, and instead got us into a trade war with our allies, women's and LGBTQ+ rights abolished, a billionaire has seized control of private citizen's data and federal funds, our military is about to invade Gaza (so much for no new wars lel), he's appointed literal traitors to his cabinet, armed ICE agents are raiding schools and children's hospitals, and EGG PRICES HAVENT GONE DOWN.
I know it's hard to admit you're wrong, but Trump is literally one of the biggest mistakes in American history.
Anonymous (ID: oRVBzfH9) United States No.509676146 [Report] >>509699485
I don't know if conservatives contributed or not but the leftist exploiting and joy at dead kids is worse and will lose them more votes.
Anonymous (ID: NW3D5WVc) United States No.509676210 [Report] >>509676592
>>509675782 (OP)
>gutted a response service that was selectively denying aid to people with political opinions they didn't like
Good
Anonymous (ID: ASuJfOsh) United States No.509676250 [Report] >>509684528
>>509675782 (OP)
>FEMA
>properly respond to disasters
Anonymous (ID: V+IV1qVF) United States No.509676324 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
you lost, tranny
Anonymous (ID: V5tgQ5fw) Sweden No.509676592 [Report] >>509678072 >>509695745
>>509676210
Sorry that's just untrue, Only Republicans have been exposed for said practices.
And Trump is open about it
Anonymous (ID: r4Yiy8wR) United States No.509676597 [Report] >>509684499
>>509675782 (OP)
Didn’t superstorm Sandy and the North Carolina floods happen while the Natl Weather Service was fully funded? Shit argument they got there.
Anonymous (ID: J2BQ2F8G) United States No.509676674 [Report] >>509684311
>>509675782 (OP)
Ironically if they had kept the older low tech siren warning systems they would have been okay since they were camping outside modern electronics.
Anonymous (ID: nNCRYsG1) United States No.509678005 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
I don't vote for that reason, it is just a pleasant surprise he did those things. Retvrn to natvral law. We ate gonna start protrcting our own kids and kin again, and bring back natural selection. A few unfprtunate incidences are just what the coyrse necessitates, but the hipe is that eventually we will be able to chokeslam bureacratic Karens without consequence.
Anonymous (ID: +xuBx+ua) United States No.509678020 [Report] >>509684415
>>509675782 (OP)
>natural disaster strikes
>quick, blame it GOP!!
Why does the left do this all the time? I mean, every single time, regardless of who's in the WH.
Anonymous (ID: DsdamDyR) Denmark No.509678072 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
>>509676592
Why are you here?
Anonymous (ID: dK681tgP) United States No.509678190 [Report] >>509682035
>>509675782 (OP)
>National Weather Service
Maybe those big, tough, independent Texas should have invested in a local service since they were the one who actually need it.
Anonymous (ID: U+YRFXas) New Zealand No.509678351 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Genuine question for the indians and bots pushing this point...
Why do you believe people have to have the government tell them there is a storm coming? There are plenty of weather sites that are free and public.
Imagine going camping/sending someone you love camping and not checking windy.com lmao
Anonymous (ID: epAAgzZ/) Netherlands No.509678507 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Yes nigger.
Anonymous (ID: UOTfWDd6) United States No.509678696 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
The national weather service is intended to keep boats and aircraft from crashing from catastrophic weather, not to babysit individual pissants
Anonymous (ID: unkTIdei) United States No.509679445 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
>blumpf is responsible for 20 deaths due to the weather
so libs are responsible for all the weather related deaths under biden? oh wait yeah they actually are since they totally failed in the fema response every single time.
Anonymous (ID: cLsk0qSY) United States No.509680625 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
I didnt know that presidents controlled weather.
Anonymous (ID: K7yiFoL2) Canada No.509681659 [Report]
>>509675982
Please come to Canada and explore our euthanasia laws
Anonymous (ID: skXCMT6A) United States No.509682035 [Report]
>>509678190
Interestingly enough the National Weather Service initially got so much attention because of a hurricane that hit Galveston TX in 1900. They really are retarded
Anonymous (ID: UqcMiMGi) United States No.509682060 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
just the brown ones
Anonymous (ID: MGbFIiK0) United States No.509682219 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
blame the masons.
they murder innocents to offset their sins and the sins of the nation.
Anonymous (ID: rkJnywQ0) United States No.509682257 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
I didn't vote, but if I did, yeah, this is fine.
Anonymous (ID: GaKU8WBv) United States No.509682464 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Leftist shitbag commies only care about kids insofar as they can exploit the deaths to advance their political agenda
The same leftist shitbag commies will happily murder those same children in utero in the most barbaric way possible just so it does not inconvenience them and interfere with "their lifestyle"
So cynical it makes me nauseous.
Anonymous (ID: 54+QdT0E) United States No.509684311 [Report]
>>509676674
>low tech siren warning
Doesn't this seem more efficient in general than hoping everyone is online or watching TV? Both should be used
Anonymous (ID: rFrkYgoZ) United States No.509684415 [Report]
>>509678020
Anonymous (ID: lS0TCE/r) Canada No.509684499 [Report]
>>509676597
Yep.
Another fake argument also Texas or whatever state is responsible for their own warnings about disasters like flash flooding potential.
Anonymous (ID: r4nY0nTz) United States No.509684528 [Report] >>509684966 >>509685377
>>509676250
It's been the Republicans goal for the past few decades to strip FEMA of funding and personnel and yet it still saves lives and restores towns in the retarded red states that rely on it.
Anonymous (ID: /ENJ9ZGK) United States No.509684607 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Liberals continuing to be loud, wrong and retarded is gonna be fun to watch for the foreseeable future.
Anonymous (ID: 3KN5SzQG) No.509684647 [Report]
Depends.
How many of the kids were white?
Anonymous (ID: ksmXOp4y) No.509684845 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
We also slashed Medicaid in case you lose your job, but at least we gave plenty of money to Israel, right goys?
Anonymous (ID: lS0TCE/r) Canada No.509684966 [Report]
>>509684528
No country has this, the local government can just issue a state of emergency and military engineers are sent in. FEMA deliberately fucked over North Carolina when Joe Xiden ran it that's why Trump made it a campaign issue
Anonymous (ID: YAoe3TqC) United States No.509685377 [Report]
>>509684528
FEMA is shit and has been absolutely despised by nearly every American since hurricane Katrina.
Anonymous (ID: p5HH67Nc) United States No.509685520 [Report]
This is the latest democrat hoax, the NWS sent multiple warnings before the flood hit there was no interrupted service.
Anonymous (ID: UUubCDxk) Czech Republic No.509685625 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
>be American
>die
I fail to see the problem
Anonymous (ID: cNUyOUyz) Germany No.509686206 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
There is no causal relation between the two events. Make 100 more threads like this and it might become true.
Anonymous (ID: /i3jrpVN) United States No.509686742 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
How hard is it for people on the left to make intellectually honest arguments? Is it even possible?
Anonymous (ID: c8izaMLF) United States No.509686880 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: grVRHPOG) United States No.509687260 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Magatards haven't been handling this happening very well
Anonymous (ID: u3APGyGC) United States No.509687419 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Yes and Democrats should be executed for forcing these budget cuts to clear out their corruption and leading to the deaths of these people.
I want to see everyone who worked at USAID and gave my tax money to democrats and antifa and the BBC to spread antiwhite propaganda lined up and shot.
They want to blame Trump for the Food, they can call him God Emperor first.
Anonymous (ID: v91UIhws) United States No.509687499 [Report]
>>509676057
>I know it's hard to admit you're wrong, but Trump is literally one of the biggest mistakes in American history.
I would hope that everybody that voted for Trump would look inward and realize that there was no such thing as TDS, and that everybody that wasn't brainwashed was screaming about the absolute retardation of voting for this lunatic again because they knew shit like this would happen, but I already am seeing people grasping at straws trying desperately to somehow make this the fault of trannies and Mexicans.
At what point do we realize that too many people in this country are just too fucking stupid to be allowed to let vote?
Anonymous (ID: ++FyO0NY) United States No.509687514 [Report] >>509687630
>>509675782 (OP)
We're on Biden's budget until October 1st. The NOAA hasn't been cut until the new fiscal year.
Anonymous (ID: u3APGyGC) United States No.509687617 [Report]
>>509675982
Yep we should investigate the NOAA for treason and negligence. Maliciousness and negligence are indistinguishable.

Honestly, I am tired of giving democrats the benefit of the doubt. If Trump says they subverted and caused these deaths, I don't need further evidence- there are bodies.
Hang them all.
Anonymous (ID: v91UIhws) United States No.509687630 [Report] >>509687718 >>509688378
>>509687514
>We're on Biden's budget until October 1st
That's not true you fucking retard, DOGE and Trump cut funds immediately because they think that rules and regulations are for morons. OOPS WE TOLD YOU SO LOL. Your pathetic attempts to make this not Trump's fault won't change the facts, faggot. Kill yourself now and save the planet the embarrassment of continuing to support a brainless slug of a human.
Anonymous (ID: u3APGyGC) United States No.509687718 [Report] >>509687896 >>509694045
>>509687630
>DOGE and Trump cut funds immediately
BECAUSE YOU DEMOCRATS WERE FUNDING ANTIFA TO BASH IN THE SKULLS OF PEOPLE WEARING RED HATS
KILL YOURSELF, THESE DEATHS ARE ON YOUR HANDS
Anonymous (ID: 8yiddd3o) United Kingdom No.509687896 [Report] >>509690013
>>509687718
>all caps schizo spergout when caught lying
shameless
Anonymous (ID: rw6kk9cU) United States No.509688022 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
They're psychopaths, they don't care. They're glad their kids are dead because it means they were "called to Heaven" or some shit while at the same time raging about how this is actuall the fault of Biden, Soros and the Dems manipulating the weather.
Anonymous (ID: rw6kk9cU) United States No.509688075 [Report] >>509691281
>>509675982
>i-it's all done to make DADDY look bad
>STOP BEING MEAN TO DADDY
Anonymous (ID: PttZGPfl) United States No.509688258 [Report]
>>509676010
That quote is completely fake, the founding fathers welcomed Jews.
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/05-06-02-0135
Some of the founding fathers WERE jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haym_Salomon
Anonymous (ID: mxGPYGF9) No.509688378 [Report]
>>509687630

They had extra staffers and issued warning s

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/national-weather-service-alert-timeline-texas-flooding/3879084/
Anonymous (ID: Z8Acu8uo) United States No.509688538 [Report] >>509697172
>>509675982
>organization uses a yearly budget
>get budget slashed
>they make changes immediately
MIGAtards have no real world experience.
Anonymous (ID: ryN1LLAk) United States No.509689778 [Report]
>>509676057
>neighbours
shalom rabbi

S2K4V
Anonymous (ID: u3APGyGC) United States No.509690013 [Report] >>509690362 >>509693984
>>509687896
>caught lying
It is FACT that the budget cuts happened because you were sending millions of USAID money to fund BBC and antiwhite propganda, and gay sex in Africa. If it wasnt for democrat corruption there would be no budget cuts.
I want you to die, unironically, because you refuse to take accountability for the evil you do- and blame your victims for stopping your abuse. The world would be a better place without people like you.
Anonymous (ID: 8yiddd3o) United Kingdom No.509690362 [Report] >>509696340
>>509690013
>Actually no cuts happened
>Ok they happened but it was because of the other side
>mutt's law
Not sure what else I was expecting from miggers. Nothing you've said is factual, just rants and lies. They didn't need to cut the budget at all, it was a political choice and one you and your kind will be paying for. Hope you're not in any floodzones yourself :)
Anonymous (ID: FFXtj0k0) United States No.509690615 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
>some twitter negro believes a hoax
did this deserve a thread?
Anonymous (ID: 9rcmyYl6) United Kingdom No.509691120 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Did democrat voters vote for kids to be mutilated by surgeons?
No-one gets what they vote for. The elite do what they want.
Anonymous (ID: u+pccOUc) United States No.509691281 [Report] >>509691876 >>509694226
>>509688075
cope
Anonymous (ID: 17jxulvY) United States No.509691351 [Report]
Half the posts ITT are such insane copes that I can't even tell if they're satire or not
Anonymous (ID: 9SS82pV1) United States No.509691374 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Your vote didn't mean anything before, now it all of a sudden does?
Anonymous (ID: 4q7RyMKG) United States No.509691475 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Why are 70 iq niggers in Sweden posting Twitter posts from 70 iq niggers on Twitter?
Anonymous (ID: QRoS8S9n) United States No.509691673 [Report] >>509691769 >>509695378 >>509696635
>>509675873
>would have stopped a flood?
no. But it would have been aware of the danger more quickly and thus communicating it more quickly in a catastrophe wear time was of the essence.
Anonymous (ID: gfJJ2REZ) United States No.509691675 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
>What the fuck do you guys even do here!?
>We name the hurricane sir
Anonymous (ID: CfDj2Knz) United States No.509691769 [Report] >>509693067 >>509693225
>>509691673
they had warnings 11 hours prior, is that not enough? this is a flood plain that has flooded many many times over the years, its not some big fucking secret that they didn't know about.

also trumps cuts dont come affect until october so you're just a lying doublenigger
Anonymous (ID: rw6kk9cU) United States No.509691876 [Report] >>509694576
>>509691281
Yeah, that's what you're doing.
Anonymous (ID: oZbhHR5P) United States No.509692380 [Report]
Anonymous (ID: +GqHX+II) No.509692622 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
OOGA BOOGA U DUN GOOFED UP
Anonymous (ID: QRoS8S9n) United States No.509693067 [Report]
>>509691769
>also trumps cuts dont come affect until october
>nobody has lost their job yet
lmao. Please keep up

>San Antonio's warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees.


>its not some big fucking secret that they didn't know about.
I totally agree. camping in a flood prone region, with record breaking rainfall occuring and going to bed as if it was no big deal is pretty fucking stupid.
Anonymous (ID: kN1mtwDZ) United States No.509693212 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
a warning was put out. how would more funding get idiots to pay attention?
Anonymous (ID: QRoS8S9n) United States No.509693225 [Report] >>509694138 >>509694303
>>509691769
>they had warnings 11 hours prior, is that not enough?

that was a "watch" not warning. It was not a warning that something completely anamalous was going to take place. Nor was it was it a warning that something was occuring imminently
Anonymous (ID: 4K5etjcf) Israel No.509693281 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
i did but it's not the same kids
Anonymous (ID: 1dwUcIPF) Slovakia No.509693311 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
They shouldn't have been allowed to go camping in a known flood area in flood season. It wasn't a family thing, it was done by an official camping organization – this isn't a "muh federal agencies" thing, LOCAL authorities should never have permitted that camp to be set up. Someone in local administration was slacking off on the job and their best bet on dodging an 80-body manslaughter charge, aggravated for involving some 20 minors, is to blame the feds. Someone down there should hang
Anonymous (ID: V5tgQ5fw) Sweden No.509693984 [Report]
>>509690013
You actually believe that's true, don't you?
I can't believe the stuff you nogs believe just because it feels good
Anonymous (ID: eNqpv2pg) United States No.509694045 [Report]
>>509687718
Ha, you are angry. Humourous
Anonymous (ID: /L0CBekb) United States No.509694138 [Report]
>>509693225
A flood happening on a flood plain that has flooded several times is not "anomalous" it's not even "uncommon".
Anonymous (ID: eI1s5zjc) No.509694176 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
The river thirsts.
Anonymous (ID: R/Lcrw01) United States No.509694226 [Report] >>509694576 >>509695286
>>509691281
>I SAID STOP IT!!!
>STOP BEING MEAN TO DADDY!!!
Anonymous (ID: u99dEpCX) United States No.509694303 [Report]
>>509693225
Flash flooding in Texas is so not anomalous there are decades old blues songs about it, you ultra coon. A watch means there's risk of inclement weather, the same 'warnings' went out as would any other year. If you lived in Kansas, would you need the government to tell you a dark and fast moving cloud front means there could be a tornado? Don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows
chud (ID: GuGKljmZ) Uruguay No.509694361 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
>Did you vote for Dead Kids?
Anonymous (ID: IYHRVlFR) United States No.509694422 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
except the warnings went out. topkek
Anonymous (ID: jKioMVRm) United States No.509694451 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
Why are christians upset with kids going to Jesus in heaven?
If heaven is fucking awesome, why wouldn’t you want to help your kids avoid sin and join god? If you claim to believe in heaven and yet you are sad, then your faith is fake, and deep down you know that this gay, fake world is as good as it gets.
What kind of mental gymnastics can possibly make this contradiction more palatable?
Anonymous (ID: V1b/fVrX) United States No.509694508 [Report]
I voted for mass deportation of shitlibs.
- I am not happy.
Anonymous (ID: FeTgO3s+) United States No.509694562 [Report]
Anonymous (ID: V+IV1qVF) United States No.509694576 [Report] >>509696505
>>509691876
>>509694226
you lost, tranny
Anonymous (ID: 7N9oH04R) United States No.509694608 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
They've done this a half dozen times now and they all turned out to be bullshit. The first claim was the tornados in Kentucky that happened before any cuts were made to NOAA.
Anonymous (ID: yPhIcu+B) United States No.509695194 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
You'd have to be avysmally retarded to agree with a nigger
Anonymous (ID: J/bjY9Md) United States No.509695286 [Report]
>>509694226
lol, you losers never fail to make me laugh.
Quick, call them MIGA cultists next! Lmao
Anonymous (ID: TXlvTziI) Australia No.509695378 [Report]
>>509691673
Helene killed 227
so you know.
No, not really.
Anonymous (ID: X4km6hKt) United States No.509695745 [Report]
>>509676592
But you're fine with Biden's fema not responding to chemical spills and floods, when those areas have any Trump signs or are mainly republican?
Anonymous (ID: X4km6hKt) United States No.509695820 [Report] >>509695955
Pretty much every phone has a weather app on it's home screen.
Anonymous (ID: FeTgO3s+) United States No.509695955 [Report]
>>509695820
Does it give updates when glowniggers blow a dam with c4?
Anonymous (ID: 87Ci0VWb) Canada No.509695980 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
>Low IQ Nigger who can't find the Ghetto Cricket lecturing me on how the government works .
>>National weather service is not gutted
>>Weather prediction would have no effect since it is US South West, where rainstorms hundred miles away can flood you in desert.
>>FEMA does shit funded or not.
Anonymous (ID: u3APGyGC) United States No.509696340 [Report] >>509698129
>>509690362
Kill yourself.
Democrats destroyed Americans faith in all the institutions of government. You faggots are cheering over the deaths of little girls so you can blame your political opponents, but its your fault. I hope we have a civil war so I can kill demoncrats like you.
Anonymous (ID: rw6kk9cU) United States No.509696505 [Report]
>>509694576
>T-tranny!
You think about them more than actual chasers do you closeted faggot.
Anonymous (ID: bguLSgiN) United States No.509696635 [Report]
>>509691673
there were warnings. it was also a flash flood, so it's hard to prepare and react to that.

imagine a river flooding 20 feet in 2 hours. now imagine people start trying to desperate evacuate and a 5 minute ride becomes 45 minutes. you think this is just some walk in the park? shit happens, its nature and it sucks but you're not going to reduce casualties to zero.
Anonymous (ID: AJLXyJG0) Canada No.509696781 [Report]
I genuinely believe people who live in areas who have a disaster literally every single year or every other year should get absolutely no empathy or help when disaster strikes.
What's that?
You live in tornado valley?
Your home was destroyed by a tornado?
No, I will not send you any money to help.
What's that?
You live on the beautiful beaches of florida?
Your home was destroyed by a hurricane?
No, I will not be sending your ass a dime.
What's that now?
You live on a fucking valcano?
It erupted and everyone died?
That's hilarious, dumb fuckers deserved it.

Yes this is what I voted for.
I voted for Trump as a canadian citizen living in canada, never even been to usa before.
It's cool though because US elections don't require ID.
If the liberals can do it so can we


.>>509675982
Makes perfect sense
Jews mad trump cut a bit of their funding so they're lashing out
Anonymous (ID: +yK9tyOV) United States No.509697172 [Report]
>>509688538
this isn't in response to your post. i was just trying to fact check the OP tweet. you remember the firings circa early February, yes?
Anonymous (ID: KgOaQnWt) United States No.509697444 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
The Guadalupe floods badly seems every other year. It's always quick and sometimes it's worse than others.
OP can suck dick, politicizing this because you have nothing else. What's next?
>hur durr... Trump likes fireworks therefore the LA neighborhood that blew up is his fault.
Fuck off.
Anonymous (ID: 6DdNU1al) United States No.509698001 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
NOAA and NWS currently have five times more employees than they did in 1980. Back when their maps and charting were all done by hand. Predictions all by hand. Limited radar capacity. Now it is all automated and computers do the work of hundreds almost instantly. Yet we still somehow need more people now. Makes no sense other than the bulk of them just being leeches.
Anonymous (ID: 8yiddd3o) United Kingdom No.509698129 [Report]
>>509696340
>The dems made me big mad that's why I voted to defund these important services
Always someone else's fault huh? Fact is, defunding killed them, you voted for them to be defunded and /your/ guy defunded them. Doesn't matter how much your feelings got hurt.
sage gay threads (ID: +nRNnHla) United States No.509698677 [Report]
>>509675782 (OP)
sheeeeeit nigga u said u voted 4 dis. U tried so hard and got so far. but indian, it doesn't rly matter

Das what u voted 4 nigga?
Anonymous (ID: ksmXOp4y) No.509699485 [Report]
>>509676146
These people are sick. There's no use thinking in terms of optics because they've lost all sense of reality.