You've taken things way too fucking far, I just want to be able to enjoy games without someone screeching in my ear about how it's all wokeshit.

less gay shit is good tho

>>509681082 (OP)
Now watch chuds defend this type of censorship because it aligns with their views

>>509681082 (OP)
>I just want
No one cares, you got want your wanted for 20 years and it was a complete >>509681082 (OP)
detriment to the hobby. Now you shut the fuck up or die.

>>509681084
deleting tranny cultism isn't censorship

>>509681082 (OP)
>You've taken things way too fucking far
No, we haven't.

>>509681082 (OP)
Games should only be heterosexual. Ban everything else

>>509681082 (OP)
Sorry lil guy, it's gonna get a lot worse. I guess you should have thought about that before letting it get that woke for so many years lol

>Woke: 400 million dollar games like concord
>Anti-Woke: an asmongold video you can just rightclick -> dont recommend channel
>ERMMM DOES ANYONE THINK ANTIWOKE IS MORE ANNOYING THAN WOKE AT THIS POINT?
no

>>509681082 (OP)
ok then, that will be when there isn't any shit in it.

>>509681082 (OP)
just stop coming to 4chan then, no one is forcing you to interact with others to play games

>>509681084
Yes. But also, returning to normalcy isn't censorship; it's undoing a mistake. Devs course-corrected so far. Now the pendulum is swinging back. Equal and opposite reactions. Next time, when it comes to your turn again, maybe consider settling the fuck down and toning down the fagslop.

>>509681082 (OP)
Not far enough. The fact that you just had to go and ruin Persona 4 by making Naoto trans in the remake means I want the whole industry to burn.

>>509681093
course-corrected too far*

>>509681092
old 4chan was never a chud shithole, you came here in 2016 and ruined the site culture, then act like it was always this way

>>509681082 (OP)
"storylines have been cut". Somehow I feel this is quoted out of context. Loads of stuff is cut from movies and games before release. Sounds like a third party is trying to use this common occurrence in the development process of games and movies to push an agenda. Again.

>>509681082 (OP)
I officially have anti-anti-woke fatigue

>You've taken things way too fucking far, I just want to be able to enjoy games without someone screeching in my ear about how it's all wokeshit.

>>509681082 (OP)
kill yourself nigger

>>509681096
Projecting tourist award.

>>509681084
Oh so now you have a problem with censorship?

>>509681082 (OP)
I don't. It's good for woke shit to be removed from games. It makes for more compelling narratives, when you're not railroaded by ideological dogshit. Don't get me wrong, if you want to make games steeped in your ideological dogshit, then be my guest, but maybe having that in AAA games that cost a shit ton of money to make and which are meant to appeal to the widest possible audience is a bad idea strategically speaking.

>>509681082 (OP)
>BG 3 isn't woke, incel!

No matter how allegedly good the game is, I'm not wasting my time even on a pirated copy.

antiwoke is a response to woke
if woke doesn't exist, antiwoke will cease to exist

>>509681104
You can just mod it all out.

>>509681082 (OP)
>“When we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.” ― Sam Hyde

>>509681082 (OP)
Good, now you know how i've been feeling for the last decade. Im sick of woke shit and political correctness ruining entertainment.

>>509681096
Fucking leftie tourists trying to rewrite history. According to this cocksucker and many like him every piece of media and public forum was always left-leaning until the nebulous Nazis showed up.

>>509681084
what goes around, comes around. what's good for the goose is good for the gander. so many appropriate idioms

>>509681082 (OP)
>>509681084
faggots and troons are gross. I won't buy games that have faggots and troons. this is just the market correcting itself

>Shit that never happened

>>509681084
>censorship
Not catering to a minority of LGBT bullies anymore is the opposite of censorship, it's a return to normalcy.

>>509681084
>put 12" dick on popular children's cartoon character
>"Sir, you have to remove that or we'll pull the cartoon show."
>"Oh, now Republicans are okay with censorship. Fucking Trump!"

>>509681106
That's just giving it more energy and time than it deserves.

>>509681086
>>509681087
>>509681102
>>509681109
>>509681113
Values are something these "people" will only espouse when it makes others do what they want. They've censored the industry for years and beat their chests about how it's a good thing, but the moment it happens to them they screech bloody murder.
Don't give an inch and don't ever flinch until every yiddish tranny acks.

>>509681084
>this type of censorship
what's the other type? wait a minute... "is not censorship if the devs do it by themselves"?

>>509681089
do you listen to yourself when you talk? that is the cringest wannabe edgelord shit i have ever read
le we are legion!!-tier
kill yourself retard

>>509681107
you have to be underage or supremely stupid to still take this guy seriously after he made an entire video having a bitch fit about elon

>>509681084
Its called make a story people want you ignorant buffoon

>>509681108
So you admit you just want revenge and don't actually care about all that shit you pretended to care about? At least you're honest.

>>509681082 (OP)
You willing to come to the table yet and accept entertainment for dudes existing without being policed by your type? Or another decade of screeching first? Your call

bg3 came out right before sbi blew up

>>509681122
>without being policed by your type?
What the fuck does that mean? Are there feminist death squads murdering game developers? What are you talking about

>>509681116
Words have meaning and this isn't censorship, no one is censoring gay shit because the vast majority of people didn't want to see gay shit in their games in the first place.

This is a case of LGBTQ censors losing their hold on media, not Inquisitor Chuds removing supposedly beloved homosexual content.

>>509681121
NTA, we'll talk about values when we get rid of you and your ilk.

>>509681082 (OP)
Sure you do, moshe.

>>509681126
>internet tough guy
Embarrassing.

>>509681128
I don't have to be tough to watch you faggots lose your grip on power for the first time in over a decade.

Once you're gone we can start having a conversation.

>>509681082 (OP)
You are the enemy and must be destroyed.

>>509681096
You've not been here since 2016. I doubt you've even been before before 2020.

Shut up and stop throwing tantrums on 4chan or leave so you'll be less grumpy.

>>509681129
You won't do shit, fatty.

>>509681128
Anon won't have to do shit; you'll ack yourselves within 10 years with or without anyone else's input.

>>509681124
Don't turn it into a caricature. You know well enough what it means.

>>509681132
I don't have to, you're starting to lose reading comprehension alongside your power.

LMAO

>>509681134
No, I don't know what it means.

>>509681082 (OP)
Wait, BALDUR'S GATE 3, THE FUCKING BEAR SEX GAME, supposedly has cut storylines to "appease the chuds"?
Am I the only one who thinks that doesn't make any sense?

>>509681082 (OP)
Awwwwwwwww, don't like it tranny?
Tough.

Go play other games

I only play chinese games

>>509681137
Always play the victim.
The first rule of Neo-marksism.

>>509681136
disingenuous

>>509681082 (OP)
They are screeching in your ear about it is all woke shit, part of an aggressive propaganda campaign that's been running for 15 years. The instant you saw a hint of pushback you cry persecution.

>>509681137
No, they are saying that BG3 would unironically be too diverse to be greenlit today.

Which is a shame, since it's the greatest RPG of all time.

>>509681141
What? I'm asking you to explain what the fuck you're talking about.

>>509681136
Not that Anon

But you have to be retarded or willfully obtuse to not face the implication of what anon is saying. I'm leaning towards the former.

>>509681137
It's really bizarre, if the worked already had their bestiality, transsexuals and homosexuality in the game then what was left to be cut?

>>509681082 (OP)
Shut up, sissy.

>>509681084
>rules for thee but not for me

>>509681145
Is he complaining about twitter posts? Is that really what this is all about?

>>509681082 (OP)
Why cant’t faggots ever hold on and stay true to their convictions?

>>509681136
Very well. Looks like another decade then. Maybe that will clear up the brain fog.

>>509681084
But I thought it wasn't censorship when they do it themselves?

>>509681144
NTA. He explained it perfectly well.
>You willing to come to the table yet and accept entertainment for dudes existing without being policed by your type? Or another decade of screeching first?
There is nothing here that needs explaining. It's wholly complete. Your feigned ignorance is just you choosing the second option. Nobody is fooled anymore.

>>509681082 (OP)
Good. All they have to do is go back to the "here's your gay romance(s) and here's your lesbian romance(s) and everyone can shut the fuck up about the non blahnaries and the trans. Those can stay in real life please.

>>509681151
>you have to magically read my mind because I refuse to explain myself

>>509681125
Pretty much this.
All this woke crap was pushed top to bottom.
Things are only returning to their natural place now that no one is bowing to pressure.

>>509681096
Pools closed due to aids and niggers btw

Cant wait for karens to fuck off from my hobby. They made Japan cringe, made vidya cringe, made everything souless.

>Chuds reveal themselves as amoral hypocrites with no actual ethics
Really makes you think, remember the mask doesn't go back on.

>>509681118
He's right though. The further you push, the harder the eventual pushback will be. And the woketards spent the last 15 years pushing things waaaaay far.

>>509681137
No the actor from BG3 is saying other games have had to cut things from them. She says she can't name them since presumably these are games still in development.

>>509681153
I can't think of any game that's been messed with other than random hentai games getting kicked off of steam with is more of a problem with valve's inconsistent policies not being clear on porn rules than retarded culture war shit.

>>509681082 (OP)
and all it took was for me to do absolutely nothing

>>509681159
Shut the fuck up, hypocrite.

>>509681082 (OP)
I’d say it hasn’t gone far enough. Not until this demonic ideology is eradicated from existence.

>>509681121
>So you admit you just want revenge
How fucking egocentric do you have to be to come to this conclusion?
No retard, we just want products catering to our tastes again.

>>509681082 (OP)
this bodes well for the upcoming scifi title from larian games

>>509681082 (OP)
Begone, homo.

>>509681082 (OP)
>>509681084
Did you delete the last thread because not everybody was agreeing with you?
If people don't want to buy a game in which characters sit at a table and tell each other that they're mentally ill, is it censorship to remove those elements?

Is it the chuds who you should be angry at, or is it the devs and suits which trash your ideology in order to make a buck? Can't you just use the same logic you used way back when you told the chuddies that self censorship isn't "le real" and that there's no conspiracy to make games woke?

>>509681143
The diversity has nothing to do with BG3ks success. Remember, your beloved companions are a white man, a white man, a black man, a white man, a white woman, a red woman (white), a green woman (white), a blue woman (white), a white woman, and a white man. If I’m forgetting one, please point them out. The fact that every deep gnome is inexplicably gay or that no companions care about what sex you are and want to fuck is ancillary the core content, which is about white heroes and white villains fighting over a white city. Even the refugee crisis is just a crisis about a neighboring city of formerly white, now various shades of red (white).

>>509681121
>15 years of woke through media manipulation and cancel culture
You only had 1 or 2 years of the anti-woke fiasco and domino effect it had on triple a games, you already had enough and whine about it, your ilks are babies, nobody needs to waste any energy on you. You are probably going to take yourself out when people start treating you like incels and outright ignoring your pleas.

>>509681082 (OP)
I don’t care about faggot shit, this is a win.

>>509681140
They go hand in hand but it's actually Judaism
Notice how much jews cry in holocaust as they bomb children to death.
Notice how they now scream that America is controlling Israel and is making them ethnically cleanse to create "greater israel"

>>509681159
permitting everything is the total lack of ethics

>>509681084
Return to normality is not censorship, retarded tranny. Seethe and dilate LOL. You lost.

>>509681162
The policing and destruction of the space has been going on for nearly two decades. You're not an alien who just got dropped off on earth. You're trolling.
>culture war shit
>ihateweeds.jpg

>>509681096
Faggots never allowed since the begining
go choke on a bag of dicks and die

>>509681082 (OP)

>>509681143
Cucked opinion

>>509681082 (OP)
>>509681084
Your time is coming to an end.
I will enjoy watching your entire ideology disappear like a fart in the wind.

>>509681084
Isn't that something wokies already do?

>>509681084
How do these people have zero self-awareness when they say shit like this?
Like, how do you say that and not think you're the most vile creature in existence?

Maybe they ARE aware of how vile they are, and they shit on everything beautiful out of spite?

>>509681167
I will never buy another Larian shit. Fucking scammers, they advertise baldur's gate and deliver female porn novel full of furries and fags.

>>509681176
Give me an actual example. A real one that actually happened. For some reason you keep refusing to tell me and insist that I magically know what you're talking about, I really cannot imagine what the fuck you're possibly referring to other than random social media posts where some fag says he's scared of sexy women.

I have gamingcirclejerk fatigue now

>>509681178
fuck off. Nazism = communism.

>>509681143
They'd just greenlit bg3 without any of the wokeshit.

Chuds won, time to get in with the times. It's 2025. Kamala lost.

>>509681161
>They are optimistic this won't last forever
How can you write something like this and not see how utterly stupid it is

>>509681159
So now leftists have problem with censorship lmao.

>>509681082 (OP)
What storyline

>>714694849
That's very nice wishful thinking. The average consumer is cattle with no principles, no amount of imagined Chinese boogeyman is gonna change that depressing reality.

>>509681096
>/lgbt/ Faggor doesn't know why /pol/ exists or when it was created
lmao, have a (You) newfriend! ;D

>>509681191
They didnt cut any storyline in bg3 only that an voice actor from bg3 knows of games which did have storylines cut.

i dont need a complete removal of wokeness i just want

1 no preachiness
2 absolutely zero bullshit about anything america is doing politics or culture wise, that shit is not relevant to the rest of the world
3 gays are fine but fuck of with tranniea

>>509681184
So you are just that stupid.

>>509681184
Sure. Go play dragon age origins and then go play dragon age veilguard.

>>509681082 (OP)
>>509681084
KYS Troons. You don’t belong

>>509681118
there's nothing edgy about wanting genetic deadends to fuck off, that's normalcy.

>>509681197
How is the existence of things you don't like "policing"? That doesn't make sense.

>>509681118
Sorry faggot, you can't do shit and everyone is tired of you. There's good news though, you are bringing joy into the world since we think your whining is hilarious. Please cry more

>>509681083
fippy bippy

>>509681082 (OP)
>Baldur's Gate 3 May Have Been Huge, But It's Done Nothing To Bolster The Careers Of Its Actors
>Speaking to All in the Game at Heroes Dutch Comic Con, Samantha Béart (Karlach), Theo Solomon (Wyll) and Dave Jones (Halsin) were asked about how Baldur's Gate 3 changed their careers. While the three were thankful for the amount of fame it got them with fans, the sobering reality is that their careers seem relatively unaffected.
>WE NEED MORE PROPAGANDA GAMES! PLEASE WE NEED MORE PROPAGANDA GAMES!
The price for being a mere tool...

>>509681096
>old 4chan would have embraced us wokies

>>509681193
/pol/ was literally a containment board that moot promised to delete if it became too chuddy (he sold the website instead like a pussy)

>start culture war
>other side has no idea its going on
>smugly gloat about your victory
>other side does nothing
>lose so hard your entire ideology starts dying in real time over night
>there’s still 15 years of losing left
>41% statistic begins to rise
>other side still has done nothing
Common lefty L
Die angry

>>509681082 (OP)
OP here, I'm trans btw.

>>509681084
It is censored in the same way dragon age veilguard was censored from being a multiplayer game.

Got what I voted for again award

>>509681203
Shart's voice actor went on to be the frontrunning VA for 2025's GotY, E33.

>>509681210
>E33
never herd of it

I officially have anti-anti-woke fatigue.

You've taken things way too fucking far, I just want to be able to not enjoy games without someone screeching in my ear about how it's all economic terrorism.

>>509681205
Yeah but /pol/ is also driving more traffic that the rest of the site combined. Literally the only reason why it wasn't killed.

>>509681203
Both Shart and frog got work afterwards, maybe they should just be better actors.

>>509681203
I'm glad the VA for the heckin wholesome reddit chungus character Karlach didn't amount to much more
I don't want more characters that act like Karlach

>>509681084
>"It's not censorship if the devs do it themselves!"
Remember that gem? Are you saying it is, now?

>>509681205
Deleting it wouldn't have done anything as /pol/ was mostly formed from /v/ users.

>>509681161
>Historically, appeasement is a really bad thing
Is this bitch fucking serious? Why do they have to compare gay shit being cut because it doesn't fit with the larger narrative or design goals of the studio with Hitler?

*tap tap*

>>509681203
Man I can't wait for AI replacement

>>509681210
Isn't Lae'zel and Jaheira's VAs in E33 too? Not major roles but still.
Astarion's VA seems to be doing well but he was already doing decently in VA work before BG3.

>>509681217
you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. is there some youtube video that's telling people this?

>>509681082 (OP)
>have to put up with 15+ fucking years of woke bullshit
>get less than a years worth of pushback
>WOW THESE ANTI WOKE GUYS ARE JUST AS BAD AS THE WOKE PEOPLE
God fucking forbid you insufferable faggots receive even a fraction of what's you've been dishing out for fucking years. No no we have to pretend you guys are poor wittle underdogs being bullied by mean people as if you haven't been the establishment shoving shit down peoples throats for age. You filthy fucking hypocrites are some of the most repulsive fucking slime on earth and I hope you all suffer at least as bad as you gave everyone else before this is over.

>>509681200
Powerful kike magic at work here. I'm in awe.

>>509681219
probably one of the only legitimate pieces of representation humans have in a society is the populist reactionary fervor caused by some traumatic event

>>509681119
Nta. This is the most weak beta shillpost here. Elon said "Pump the West with jeets," on Christmas on twitter. Internet freaked out because us real humans trying to retake the West from animals know that that is a demonic stance to have. Musk had a giant crash out, Hyde release a fun video talking about how Musk can grow from this and Vivek needs to be deported.

Your post is so weak and stupid. It's more productive for you to just say "I dislike conservatism," than try to frame Hyde dunking on Musk being a jeetlover trying to flood the West with MORE useless non-Whites as a fail on Hyde's part.

>>509681224
I want you to explain to me how the game was "policed". What content was cut from the game exactly?

>>509681084
Just make your own game.

>>509681096
/v/ has literally always been against sjw's from their inception.

Assuming you're an alien the discussion couldn't start until you experienced it. Go play Origins and Veilguard.
Your eagerness to discuss it despite somehow not knowing about it only shows the jewmana flowing through your veins.
Your kind is coming to an end.

>>509681084
You made your bed, go lie in it. L bozo.

>>509681084
Why don't you... you know, watch porn instead? You are not gonna apply that one here?

>>509681178
What painting is that a parody of?

>>509681203
>relatively unaffected.
Karl was pretty popular and the VA did a great job. She should be in something else. Wyll nobody cares about and Halsin is a mixed bag depending on where you look.

>>509681229
it's just the typical pseud playbook, spam the board with faggotry and then when they're finally losing gaslight

>>509681215
Karlach felt more like a Tumblrfag rather than a Redditfag.

>>509681230
I want you to explain how the game was "policed". What were the devs forced to cut from the game?

>>509681082 (OP)
>I officially have anti-woke fatigue
Cool, everyone else has woke fatigue, go jump off a building, tranny.

>>509681082 (OP)
You don't even know what woke means because it was created by SomethingAwful goons with troll's remorse

>>509681084
You goddamn right, tranny

>>509681082 (OP)
Things returning to normal is fine by 90% of people and 99% of video game fans.

>>509681084
>censorship
woke shit is pushed shit, without it any game literally will become better

>>509681082 (OP)

>>509681238
most people dont care about either but after the next few years the pendulum swing will make you vomit

>>509681222
>he doesn't remember gamergate

>>509681082 (OP)
Proofs?

>>509681238
>everyone else
your echochambers aren't real life bud

>>509681205
Why do you think that /pol/ was necessary in the first place? What do you think "containment board" actually means shitposter-kun?
It's almost as if the entire site was infested with the mouth breathing retards that regularly uses /pol/ today to the point where they were an actual majority, regardless of how you or I feel about it the truth is that power word "CHUD" holds no meaning on a website that has always been made up of the people that you think your hurting with your silly little shitposts and insults.

You'd have the same effect by standing around in american cotton fields and screaming "NIGGER!" during the 18th century.

>>509681245
ok yeah so you definitely weren't there

>>509681223
They know this, and since they lost funding from their benefactors (like through USAID, or other social conditioning investors), they're attempting to regain foothold somewhere like lost companies of soldiers after a lost war. We'll likely see this until the next election or war breaks out involving the US/UK. Dishonesty and attempting to hold the enemy to its own morality while following none is a typical progressive tactic taken from "rules for radicals" by Alinsky.

>woman gives sexual favors for positive game reviews
>dominoes fall
>israel gets glassed

>>509681096
4chan was literally always hateful and contrarian. The only two qualities this site has retained over its existence.

>>509681084
The straight male gaze is also part of diversity and needs representation chud
Diversity is our strength

>>509681203
There's only so many roles and a near infinite pool of actors so this is completely normal

>>509681248
>Why do you think that /pol/ was necessary in the first place?
How about first you tell me why you think /pol/ existed? Go ahead and explain. How and why was the board created?

>>509681251
Funny how the world works, isn't it

>>509681082 (OP)
>characters like tash are being cut from video games aimed at a standard male audience who are known to hate this shit, leaving LGBT topics to fend for its successes on their own merit. this is HORRIBLE and WRONG and ANTI-ART
I don't think so faggoty grifters

>>509681084
i'm not spending my money on pozzed garbage

>>509681255
because the entire site was /pol/

>>509681203
All the good VAs from that game keep getting new work so...

>>509681082 (OP)
i still wont buy games lol
the mask went off

>>509681259
Interesting. How long have you been here btw?

>>509681244
>>509681247
There won't be a pendulum swing, nationalism and heterosexuality won, cope.

>>509681250
>Dishonesty and attempting to hold the enemy to its own morality while following none is a typical progressive tactic
Oh yeah that shit goes all the way bock to the French revolution if not further. Hopefully this time though the non progressives won't be stupid enough yet a fucking gain to take the progressives bullshit in good faith and subsequently get taken advantage of yet a fucking gain.

>>509681247
NTA but you are delusional. Or disingenuous intentionally. You progressives were so wrapped in a bubble of closed off delusions, the day Trump was elected *a second time* the entirety of leftist bReddit and Twitter SCREAMED in unison, to the point where we had daily freakout threads for a month. That was *less* than the first time, but this time even your own were asking consistently "have we become an echo chamber, and lost touch with how anyone thinks outside?". Even your own considered that you became too far removed from the average non activist.

>>509681082 (OP)
me too, I wish everything could be lame and gay again

I've made it my policy that if a game has niggers, trannies, females, fags or any other sexual degenerates, jews, mystery meats of different varieties I'm not buying.

>political party in power in the USA changes
>content in your game is removed
>money stolen

>>509681084
Correct. Remove ALL tranny shit.

>>509681084
Too late now troon. We told you what would happen when the pendulum swung back, but you thought your "people" would be in control forever. Now you're suddenly preaching principles? Get fucked and get your gay shit censored.

>>509681084
>changes made during development to appeal non-players
>gamers can't stop losing! not censorship if the company made the changes! go watch porn loser
>changes made during development to appeal players
>that's terror

>>509681255
You can literally hear it in the word "containment board" so explaining the entire history of it is a massive waste of time. The short answer is because retards from other websites at the time established a foothold on 4chan and they spread all over the place.

>>509681262
>mysteriously stopped responding after being asked this
lol
every single time

>>509681264
80% of modern day issues can be traced back to the french

>>509681249
ok zoomzoom

we're going going
back back
to the 90s 90s

>>509681082 (OP)

>>509681082 (OP)
but I literally did nothing, I don't buy games anymore.

>>509681272
the stormniggers were always a minority which is why everyone constantly complained about them

>>509681121
>"You don't want good video games to play, you want revenge on me!"
Your solipsism is amusing but sad. I want to play good video games, while you want attention. That's why they force these topics into popular games instead of making their own because no one buys them.

>>509681271
They've been doing this gaslighting every time they lose a foothold. The classic we know all too well:
"It's not happening"
"Okay its happening but it's a good thing"
" It was always this way and you're weird for complaining about it"

>>509681096
Are you telling me people on /v/ before 2016 liked and were in support of trannies faggots and feminism?

>>509681243
It failed to catch up but some are still trying a variation of this one. Instead of fake neutrality, they try the old "i'm just like you BUT don't you think...."
>I hate SJWS (in fact, I'm a anti-SJW myself) but in this [insert any subject here, really anything, because the format is the same regardless the subject] anti-SJWs are completely wrong?

Remember guys, gamergate elected Trump
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9mHST4Q4kTU

>4chan was ALWAYS socially conservative, i'm a 2016 oldfag
/v/ermin moment

>>509681276
>the 90s
>when Nintendo's N64 could play FPS games, some that came to PC as well
>gaming is returning to Nintendo and PC through Valve
>Nintendo and Valve are video game companies unlike Sony and Microsoft
>a new era of creativity and innovation will come from indie, A, and AA devs while AAA devs slowly die off if nothing changes
>I simply did what Nintendo and Valve did and sat down and did nothing and won
IT FEELS SO GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!

>>509681082 (OP)
The most important thing to remember with this shit is that what is actually said or argued is completely unimportant since the only thing that matters to the progressive is reaching their goals by any means necessary. Engaging with the bullshit around the goal is a complete and utter waste of time because it's all liquid bullshit that will immediately morph into something else the second they see the need to do so.

*eh hem*
kill gays

>>509681285
Since when has /v/ ever supported sjw's?

>>509681279
I want everyone to notice that the prog posters have been given express permission from comrade Tyrone to use the slur "nigger" in an effort to fit in and manipulate other users. They repeat this *one* slur, their sentence lacking all other forms of anti-progressive MO. They'll always say /pol/niggers or some other non Tumblr enemy faction with -nigger. Observe.

>>509681284
We simply just wanted to play video games, why did they hate us for that?

>>509681084
>all those mad chuddies
lmao

>>509681084
issue here is that fags like us had been calling out this kind of bullshit for a while, only to slowly realize that progressives would take advantage of this at every opportunity
you championed this shit when it happened to the right and I do not have sympathy for you

>>509681082 (OP)
So do we. That why we bitch about all the woke shit.

>>509681285
You can hate the current state of the progressive industry while being a perverted liberal
Now, you think that the hedonist coomers of 4chan would support a war on the "patriarchy" and "weird male gazey designs"?

>>509681279
Well yeah, but it wasn't just those types, there were so much shitposting that just egged them on at the time which made it impossible to actually know how many of them there actually were, after /pol/ was created it had both the desired effect and the effect that actual stormfags mistakenly felt welcomed in. Ordinary 4chan posters weren't the limpwristed leftists that you have today either way, there were LIBERAL use of all types of slurs for no other reason than "lolrandumbfunie" and teenage (or manchild) angst

>>509681084
How much of that $20 million to "win young men back to the left" have you gotten? $20 in gift cards? Money well spent.

>>509681159
>>509681200
>>509681292
Please keep projecting. You only wake up more people to what has to be done to rid the rest of us from you for good.

>>509681290
>he thinks that "stormnigger" is a new term
every /pol/ retard constantly exposes themselves as a newfag

>>509681082 (OP)
Over correction is bad no matter the direction, I'm sure in 20 years people will be cheering on lesbian couples kissing in the street because it pisses off the Mosque police force and Indian street shitters.

>>509681096
Provably false just by the existence of /v/ the musical which was dunking on lefties in 2013 before GamerGate even happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcebgKvAoh0

>>509681289
people complained about retarded third wave feminists and puritans who wanted to censor things

>>509681301
this is a good example of people complaining about anita being taken as "oh this means that 4chan was a radical right-wing conservative website"

>>509681082 (OP)
>BG3 Actor

>>509681300
Not really.
None of that shit is happening in non-western countries.

>>509681299
Stfu, they haven't used that term in ages, lying sack of shit. They say /pol/nigger almost exclusively now.

>>509681290
I prefer "/pol/tards".

>>509681096
>old 4chan was never a chud shithole
I know you're baiting but it really was a pre-chud website. Before obama's second term 4chan was all in for ron paul, 4chan was libertarian. How the libertarians became the chuds has been well documented elsewhere but the basic jist is that continual failure to achieve their aims lead to disdain for the plebs who didn't know what was good for them, thus the libertarians become more authoritarian.
It was amongst the worlds greatest ironies that once the libertarians became anti-pleb is when the plebs started listening to them.

>>509681305
Remember "/pol/skin"?

>>509681084
I know right. They should pick the right choice next time. Stupid closetchudcels

>>509681306
Me too. I have gotten banned a few times already for saying "polnigger" because the mad poltard subhuman who has no principles reported me for racism lol.

>>509681082 (OP)
That's the best thing I've read all day. Thanks for the pick me up, anon.

>>509681301
Nice find
The leftists lie like always

>>509681302
>people complained about retarded third wave feminists and puritans who wanted to censor things
Yeah /v/ has always been against sjw's from their inception.

>>509681297
SAM Projectbros...
>Democrats set out to study young men. Here are their findings.
>The group has a two-year, $20 million budget to study young men and how Democrats can reach them. The results of an initial round of research shared exclusively with POLITICO — including 30 focus groups and a national media consumption survey — found many young men believe that “neither party has our back,” as one Black man from Georgia said in a focus group. Participants described the Democratic Party as overly-scripted and cautious, while Republicans are seen as confident and unafraid to offend.
>The SAM project — which turned into a punchline for liberals and conservatives alike — is pitching itself to donors and officials as a hub for research, paid advertising and influencer outreach that’s focused on young men, a once-critical part of the Democratic coalition that they lost to President Donald Trump in 2024. The group was founded by Hogue, the former president of NARAL; John Della Volpe, a pollster who specializes in Gen Z voters; and former Texas Rep. Colin Allred, who unsuccessfully ran for Senate last year.
>Another Latino man from Las Vegas said that during the 2024 campaign, Harris focused on, “Oh, I got Beyonce on stage with me. Oh, I got Lady Gaga on stage,” and “it just kind of felt like, what does that have to do with me? I’m trying to move up in life.”
>A second Latino man from Las Vegas spoke admiringly of Trump and Andrew Tate, a controversial influencer who has been accused of rape and sex trafficking, as “always loved and hated, but they’re truthful, honest, to what they believe in.”
lalilulelobros... we need to support the good guys

>>509681313
lol you ignored the rest of my post, figured.

>>509681312
you will always be a tourist btw

>>509681302
>"oh this means that 4chan was a radical right-wing conservative website"
No one is saying that it is/was one but the leftist bullshit your trying to so obviously push on oldfags is extremely disingenuous considering the fact that "Nigger" and "Faggot" have been used in almost every thread since 2007 at the very least.

The video your calling out is also clearly making fun of more than just Anita since they are singing about trannies which was a topic the she was avoiding at the time.

>>509681084
Yup. I want my enemies crushed and humiliated.

>>509681310
I love how you can just read shit trannyniggers say and you just know they made it up lol

>>509681315
You will always be hated mentally ill faggot :)

>>509681315
/v/ has never cared or liked trannies, faggots or feminism. Thats a fact.

>>509681289
4chan was always pro-woman in gaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gz9um3wV1o

>>509681084
The thing with hypocrites is that even when you call out their hypocrisy, they don't care because they just don't like you

>>509681316
>>509681320
you weren't there, you're essentially in a cargo cult worshiping a website that died before you even knew it existed.

Personally, I think it's fascinating that the industry is self-correcting. When it comes down to it, money talks.

>>509681096
4chan was always the edgy boy, that used to be racist/sexist humor and hating on right wing/christians but when it become the norm they started hating anything progressive. They also upped the racism/sexism because it become more unacceptable on the internet.

>>509681321
>We're some men, we're fucking assholes

4chan was libertarian with a live, let live attitude as long as you could fling shit. There was always a strong aversion to moral busybodying, political correctness, thought police, and all that other gay shit.

>>509681323
Since you were "there" you can prove /v/ supported all this stuff right?

>>509681309
The kikery flowing off this image is maddening.
The real interaction is
>Tav! I have urgent news! Talk to me in camp!
>talk to him at camp
>gale immediately tries to seduce you
>your options are "whats up man?" (gay sex), "lets fuck!" (gay sex), "Die in a fire faggot."
>most people don't want to tell him to die in a fire and pick the option that's not overtly gay sex but still leads to gay sex
They literally had to patch the quest because it was so fucking gay.

>>509681326
A very well received video here in /v/.

>storylines of more faggot tranny shit
oh no

>>509681084
gay shit and other sexual perversions have no place in video games

>>509681324
aaaiiiieeee is that capitalism working?!
but capitalism is le evil!
it works for luxury goods but goods for basic living need some amoount of regulation

>>509681219
This post is two and a half years old, how much longer must this last before you accept you actually won and your opponents are in retreat?

>>509681328
>/v/ supported
even insisting that there was some kind of official 4chan political ideology proves what i'm saying. the only thing that /v/ agreed on was that retards like anita complaining about misogyny in video games were retards

>>509681329
I think that comic in particular is more about KCD2

>>509681323
>You weren't there
I've been an eternal cancerfag since 2008, your the only odd on here, faggot.

The reason why Gamergate even got any foothold in the first place was because shit had been boiling over on /v/ for a few years before that and if you can't even remember that then you obviously just a shitposter from /lgbt/

>>509681329
>let your bro show you a magic light show once
>WHAT ARE WE
Galecel

>>509681082 (OP)
Do something about it woketard, you'll do nothing but by another amazon subscription like a good pay piggy

>>509681337
cool so you'd remember when people donated that feminist game to prove to the sjws that gamergate wasn't against women? as an ebin oldfag you'd surely remember something like that right?

>>509681335
>the only thing that /v/ agreed on was that retards like anita complaining about misogyny in video games were retards
Yeah exactly /v/ has always been against sjw's.

>>509681118
>do you listen to yourself when you talk?
Yeah, and then I think 'teehee, that was a good line!'

>>509681335
>the only thing that /v/ agreed on was that retards like anita complaining about misogyny in video games were retards
See this is why we know you're full of shit
All discussions about that got banned so there's no way for you to know that.

>>509681309
I thought this comic was a joke about him having glasses

>>509681336
the image directly references BG3.

>>509681340
You mean the clear and obvious attempt to flag away in a desperate bid to seize control of the narrative again? They were too stupid to know that the media was against them from day 1, and could never be won back.

>>509681339

>>509681307
And before that people supported Obama after 8 years of Bush too. Shitting on the latter wasn't even an edgy position back then.

>>509681082 (OP)
What's wrong, kid rapist? Not fun when it happens to you?

>>509681084
If a game intended for faggots is changed to appeal to more moderate people, then yes I would say its censorship. There are no examples of this, however. Can you name me a game advertised with gay sex that had the gay sex removed?

>>509681348
4chan never liked bush but even when obama was running for first term they still preferred ron paul

>>509681343
>All discussions about that got banned
lol gamergate was only kicked off of /v/ after it blew up and became chanology 2.0, before that /v/ would have constant threads complaining about anita.

>>509681346
>You mean the clear and obvious attempt to flag away in a desperate bid to seize control of the narrative again?
nope sorry but I was in those threads where people were talking about it, again this is what I mean when I say that this is just a cargo cult of newfags worshiping a fictional idea of 4chan.

GET FUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!
>OH NO MUH SEXY WOMEN MUH BUFF MEN *ROLLS EYES ONLY OUR SHIT TOKEN NIGGERS AND FAGGOTS WITH QUIRKY REDDIT HUMOUR SHOULD EXIST WOMEN IN POST APOC BEING GIRLBOSSES IS KEWL
GET ABSOLUTELY FUCKED I DEFENDED FAGGOTS NIGGERS AND TRANNIES AND THEN I GREW UP AND REALIZED THEY HATED MY GUTS SO NOW YOU GET KICKED IN THE TEETH!

ITS NOT ABOUT INCLUSION, ITS ABOUT MY ERASURE, NOT IF I ERASE YOU FIRST!!!

>>509681340
Yes, I even remember the fucking mascot Vivian James
Your only proving my point more, the reason why people donated was to get the retards on the modern left off of Gamegates back, I even remember the "#NotYourShield" stuff that existed for the same fucking reason.

Also: >>509681327

>>509681351
>they
the idea of 4chan as some kind of unified political ideology is false

I have anti-woke fatigue fatigue.

>>509681308
YES, fuck. So canned.

None of these journos have the balls to point out the elephant in the room which is that this is in large part because of China. China does not like blacks, trannies, gays etc; but for some reason they keep pushing the idea that the "chud epidemic" is a white male thing.

>>509681355
All we have to go off of is threads and there were certainly way more threads about ron paul than obama

>>509681355
>the idea of 4chan as some kind of unified political ideology is false
Wrong. 4chan has a clear, very unified political ideology: Contrarianism

>>509681354
>sudden shift from "4chan was always against faggots and trannies" to "uh actually it was live and let live" after discovering 15 year old doom paul images

>1PBTID

>>509681358
>they keep pushing the idea that the "chud epidemic" is a white male thing.
It isn't but it should be

>>509681360
> 4chan has a clear, very unified political ideology: Contrarianism

>>509681359
>All we have to go off of is threads
ok so this is what i mean when i say cargo cult shit. you're acting like 4chan is an ancient civilization you're trying to excavate instead of a website you were posting on, which tells me that you were not actually there

boohoohoo

>>509681364
kys tourist scum

>>509681084
You are right, but this hurts the other anons so they will mock you

>>509681327
See, theres a reason that attitude was abandoned around the great awokening, enforcing no moral principles is equivalent to letting your enemy enforce theirs. Thats why all the lolbertarians became anti-woke magatards

>>509681082 (OP)
>Scream and scream and scream about how evil straight white men are for decades
>Go too far with your bullshit
>Start receiving actual pushback only now
>"I'M SO TIRED OF YOU ALL COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS"
Are you fucking kidding me? You have the nerve to complain about people being tired of your shit after the decades of creepy activists infiltrating and destroying media? Go fuck yourself. The majority of people aren't gay and don't think stamping on white people forever is a good look. You aren't going to normalize this by rolling your eyes and pretending that the "silly rightoids" are acting up again. Of course people are tired of you when all you do is force yourself down their throats and then pull the narcissist "Huh, I didn't do anything wrong, so you're a bad person!" crap.

>>509681367
My board now, bitch.

>>509681329
>>most people don't want to tell him to die in a fire
And that exactly how things got this way. Enjoy the consequences of your actions.

>>509681084
>>509681082 (OP)
Well how do you like the taste of your own medicine niggerfaggots?

>>509681367
You will never be an imageboard user, you will never be a woman, you will never have any clearly defined beliefs.
You will forever be a failed normalfag retard trying to push your mental illness into anonymous users.

>>509681365
I was there, I saw all the ron paul threads.
I never posted any cause I'm not an american but I remember how big ron paul was.

>>509681084
>Censorship
When it was not supposed to be there, either it was inserted by an "consultant" company or the writers are trying to virtue signaling. It's never legit.

>>509681161
Of course it's redditlach. My nigga Wyll would never.

>>509681334
Until they're dead, at the very least. They never stop.

>>509681361
Yes, because FAGGOTS and TRANNIES in the context I'm describing them in is the EXACT context that the other anon were talking about.

We've had traps on 4chan since... Probably since it's inception, but no one gave a singular fuck until the "left" started trying to act as a fucking thought police just like the "right" did during the fucking 90s.
This then started to create a schism between posters that are still going on today with a few ACTUAL LIBERTARIANS still being caught in the crossfire between two tourist factions that labels themselves as the new-left/right.

Your just as massive of a faggot as /pol/fags are so go back to /lgbt/ where you fucking belong.

>>509681084
You were fine with it when it affected us.

>>509681161
>appeasement is bad
The only reason why we have rainbow coloured games filled with faggot shit and bear fucking is appeasement.

>>509681178

>>509681082 (OP)
INCREDIBLY fucking bold of them to use a picture of Karlach with that headline. Or it was intentional, because it immediately soured my opinion on all of these "cut" storylines.

>>509681334
>and your opponents are in retreat?
Until they're driven to the sea and I am drowning them in their own tears.

When boomers die out, you're going to see some wild shit.
You haven't seen nothing yet.

>>509681210
I thought her voice sounded familiar, I can't believe I didn't notice it was the same woman lmao

*taps sign*

>>509681379
>lolbert
The only reason you still haven't killed yourself is because that violates the NAP.

>>509681333
This is why capitalism is the best ism. You never need to do anything physically, simply don't buy the product and the problem fixes itself.

>>509681334
I don't want or need harm coming to them. It's a shitty thing to do and it's a bad look. But the public in general NEED to understand how bad it would be for the far left to ever get into power again. The fact that "communist" isn't said with the same hatred as "nazi" was a massive failing and this needs to be corrected.

>>509681084
By one of your official spokespersons, with a medium and platform at his disposal
>Congratulations angry gamers, the word 'censorship' has officially lost all meaning. Censorship at its most literal is the suppression of speech, but that definition leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Some cases are very clear - the government telling a newspaper that they can't report negative stories on said government is obviously censorship. If you were denied access to a television appearance or had a book deal cancelled because you were Black or Jewish, that's also censorship.
>However, if you were denied the same opportunities because you'd said hateful things about Black and Jewish people repeatedly, it would still technically be censorship, but most people in society would agree with the decision for the safety and wellbeing of others. What we can say for certain though is that not letting you see Ashley Graham's panties in Resident Evil 4 Remake is not censorship.
So, which part of "diversity is being removed from some games" (no proper examples, of course... kinda ironic I must say, because we have tons... of tons of example from the "other side") is exactly censorship?

>>509681285
Oldchan disliked cuckservatives for the same reason it hates the left now: It started getting involved in their hobbies
That's a consistent position.

>>509681082 (OP)

>>509681082 (OP)
I did nothing though?

I don't care about american culture wars.

But I do want to see Russians genocided to the last male, female and broodling. The more russoids die, the better for humanity. Total fucking Zigger extermination. And if the chinksects have issues with that, kill them all too.

>>509681357
zoomerspeak continues to devolve into fake slang

>>509681082 (OP)
>calls it a warning instead of a ray of hope
Who's the shitty actor?

>>509681210
Yuck, frog dub it is.

>>509681394

>>509681347
The uptick beginning here is likely primarily due to the Ferguson riots effect and Obama’s increasingly divisive racial rhetoric following this period. The graphic implies some sort of organized shift in media strategy after the failure of occupy Wall Street, but that doesn’t seem necessary to explain the rise.

>>509681082 (OP)
Refering to it as diversity is racist in itself cuz it means they're different from you and don't have the same capacity chud

>>509681391
Correct. There is a tendency to overcorrect, however: LGB was tolerated (except L, L is hot and welcome), now it's yucky because of woke shit. I am guilty of this. Since this is a BG3 thread, kinda, look at this mod:
https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2886-even-better-romance-0-1-0-baldur-s-gate-3
I was a lefty, now I don't see anything wrong with it. Fuck'em.

>>509681387
Why don't you just suck-start a shotgun, the world wouldn't miss you or your retarded views on the world.

>>509681399
It's not necessary, but it happened and it, along with Obamas policies after his 2nd term fucked social and corporate affairs in the USA, even harder than 2001 somehow.

>>509681398
Uh oh, Moskal's mad.

Or are you just a retarded amerigroid trumpanzee psyopped by Kreml?

>>509681392
>haha zippertits and she/xir pronouns we’re winning bros!
>gets genocided by welfare pullbacks
lol

>removing "diversity"
Sounds great because I couldn't be more tried of fantasy settings devolving into reskinned contemporary San Francisco and San Franciscans.
I'm begging you to put some actual flavor back into your games.

>>509681096
>you came here in 2016
Of course, I remember everyone being pro-diversity before 2016. I'm more of a comic guy but I remember /co/ being totally in favor of diversity in comics. This is an interesting article with some "parody" comments regarding diversity in comics.

https://mediadiversified.org/2014/08/06/thats-how-we-troll-the-marvel-backlash/

That wasn't happening here at all.

>heh those right wing snowflakes
>lose a modicum of ground in a corporate landscape catered entirely to you
>REEEEEEEEEE THIS IS LITERALLY FASCISM I'M SO SICK OF IT!11

>>509681402
lol mad

>>509681404
I'm an Western European that hasn't watched TV in 15 years.
You Georgian, a Mudslime or worse, a Germoid?

>>509681084
choosing to not write political slop because it sells poorly is not censorship

>>509681352
I was in those threads too, but apparently unlike you I can read between lines. This place hasn’t changed in vitriol since then, just in topic.

>>509681082 (OP)
>guaranteed replies

Fuck this place.

>>509681401
This.
Back during the 2000s, 4chan was pretty leftist, because the right were insufferable pricks for the most part. But now the left are lame and hostile, so being on the right is favoured. I used to be a lefty myself, but since they hate me just for being a straight white guy and want to fuck with my hobbies out of childish spite I think they can all go to hell.

>>509681082 (OP)
That sounds good, if the games are no longer made repulsive on purpose I might actually buy some.

>>509681408
>in a corporate landscape catered entirely to you
This was true for the last time in mid 00's. We clearly should have it back, I'm sure you agree.

>>509681082 (OP)
Kill yourself tranny

>>509681409
>western european
Pathologically contrarian retard that doesn't pay attention what's happening in the world. Is it malice or stupidity that you don't recongize that Russians deserve to get exterminated? They are inherently evil, disgusting verminous subhuman beasts. Choosing to side with them tells of either ignorance or kinship.

>>509681084
That's not censorship.
>tranny writers write garbage storylines
>they don't get produced
wow imagine that

>>509681413
By the same token, fucking Bush with his protestant crybullies pushed a ton of otherwise centrist "smart" people either to the left or the hard left. History repeats and such.

>>509681401
Because there was no political pressure groups behind it. The devs did it out of their own free will and it felt organic.
I was fine with most of the BG3 gay shit except Nightsong. Being gay and lusting over Isobel being her entire personality it was so cringe. You can tell that shit was forced by 1 writer on account of her having no personality (nobody else wanted to touch her).

>>509681084
yes good
get this gay shit out of muh games

>>509681096
>, you came here in 2016 and ruined the site culture,
True, /pol/ used to have actual nazis.

>Jarvis, I'm low on karm- I mean dopamine and need (You)s, stat.
>May I suggest posting low-quality bait on 4channel.org?

>>509681417
Amerimutts are raping your country from within and pushed for this war.
They're buying out and putting into power, spineless weak politicians flooding our countries with mudslimes and niggers via constant wars in the Middle East and economic exploitation in Africa (being slowly taken over by China now), pushing for faggotry and abortion via propaganda funded by kike cosmopolitan megalomaniacs like George Soros and erasing your own culture with Warehouses and a McDonalds in every corner.

And somehow the Russians are le hecking bad for wanting to protect their border from constant NATO expansion since the 90s.

>>509681096
You will never be a real incel. You have no autism, you have no negative canthal tilt, you have no deep seated emotional resentment. You are a well-adjusted man twisted by irony and memes into a crude mockery of a stone cold virgin.

All the “rejection” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back girls love you. Your parents are proud and happy for you, "Stacies” swoon over your masculine appearance behind closed doors.

Women are utterly smitten with you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed women to sniff out chads with incredible efficiency. Even incels who “pass” look strong and charismatic to a woman. Your deep voice and good sense of humor are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to earn a little online incel clout, you'll get cancelled the second your DMs get leaked and everybody gets a glimpse of the e-girls thirsting over you.

You will never be depressed. You wrench out a fake "tfw no gf" every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be miserable, but deep inside you feel the happiness creeping up like a weed, ready to bless you with unshakeable confidence.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll find a girlfriend, marry her, knock her up, and have seven healthy kids together. Your parents will praise you, happy but a little bit sentimental now that their little boy has finally grown up. They’ll spoil the kids with candies and toys, and every acquaintance for the rest of your life will know that you're a fakecel. Eventually you will pass on surrounded by your loved ones. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a family that misses you dearly.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>>509681369
Libertarians do have moral principles, it's just that to anyone left or right of them they just see the "Just do whatever as long as it doesn't hurt others" and they go "B-but that isn't rigid enough! I NEED MUH BOUNDARIES!" which then forces everyone, regardless of political beliefs, to start drawing lines in the sand.

You think that you have pushed people into "picking sides" but in reality you've more likely just forced them to plant their feet on whatever their beliefs were before because the more libertarian way of viewing life allowed people to not grandstand constantly.

>>509681426
>Libertarians do have moral principles

>>509681082 (OP)
>You've taken things way too fucking far
Can I still have relationship/sex with animals?
Asking for a friend.

videogames are for losers

>>509681622
Videogames used to be for chads

Hohol loving janny decided to be funny eh.

>>509681769
>Hohol loving janny
That's every janitor in this shithole

>>509681622
>videogames are for losers
Because being a /pol/ack is a much better use of your time, right?

>>509681694
keyword
>used
there hasn't been a single good year for video games in almost 20 years

>>509681084

>>509681872
>there hasn't been a single good year for video games in almost 20 years

>>509681084
correct. it's not hypocrisy when we do it
that was the most important lesson left taught right

>>509681082 (OP)
I don't. I still have woke fatige. How the fuck can you get "anti woke" fatigue. That's not even a thing. You are just a butthurt woke faggot.

>>509681930
>bannerlord
pretty sure this game is still a total mess
warband is where it was at for fun in dedicated servers plus modding

He won