>>509700192 (OP)I think there are multiple problems going on at once here and outside of here...
1) People here put too much of their idea of happiness on having a perfect ideal of what their wife should be. It makes it easier to cope if you think "There are no good women anymore" or if you apply standards of "18 to 22 and still a virgin". That is unrealistic in the modern world. Dudes literally want gorgeous tens who have never been touched and who share the political views. None of the chads out there are getting that either. We all sacrifice something when we date. All of us.
2) People outside of here dismiss the idea of how depressed incels or just MGTOW types feel about their social lives. Telling someone "Never being with someone isn't a big deal" is easy to say when you yourself are with someone or could easily get with someone. It's wrong to dismiss the pain of others. Even if they're causing a lot of that pain themselves. You should still try to find compassion for them. Human beings crave socialization and being in sexual relationships. It's normal to desire that and to want that.
And because of those 2 things that are such hardline positions of unrealistic ideas we end up with assholes on both side being ridiculous. Group 2 should shut up and Group 1 should be more realistic about dating in the 21st and even what it was like in the 20th and 19th centuries.