When will it reverse? Will it ever reverse? - /pol/ (#509723073) [Archived: 537 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: 0WZxfzrDPoland
7/7/2025, 9:49:43 AM No.509723073
world fert rate
world fert rate
md5: a94ad42f872fb20b465f69c5ea1ab576๐Ÿ”
There's need to be 2.1 children of every woman for society to survive. Europe and North America is already dying - if there are any deviations upowards, it's because of migrants (however these migrants also start dying out eventually). South America and Asia is currently crossing the line (however smarter, East Asia is dying along with Europe). Even Africa will cross the line in 2 generations.

With current trends niggers will die out as the last, but they'll all die eventually, along with everyone else.

Entire humanity is dying, like we're past peak of Mouse Utopia. However unlike with these mice, Earth never reached the point of being overpopulated. Whenever someone feels overwhelmed with human around, there's always some deserted place to live.

Is it cultural thing? Will people start making more people when Netflix switches rolemodels from single, independent woman to tradwife? If so, I think it's about the time to mandate such thing.
Replies: >>509723119 >>509723859 >>509725083 >>509725307 >>509726258 >>509726731 >>509726815 >>509730203 >>509731318 >>509732032 >>509733767 >>509734994
Anonymous ID: tLLeRvgURomania
7/7/2025, 9:50:55 AM No.509723119
>>509723073 (OP)
Niggers are starting to die as well? That's great news
Anonymous ID: um1jTbf1Sweden
7/7/2025, 9:53:20 AM No.509723220
1726019181774439
1726019181774439
md5: abb201da2e178ed7c5259a912bad2680๐Ÿ”
These graphs are probably just old projections that are not taking into account that there's been a massive decline in fertility rate last couple of years.
Tons of countries have barely above 1.0 fertility now. A few years ago it was only South Korea.
Replies: >>509723412 >>509724078 >>509725579
Anonymous ID: tLLeRvgURomania
7/7/2025, 9:58:16 AM No.509723412
>>509723220
Why is that a bad thing? The world is already overpopulated and the population boom wasn't going to last. The only negative is that it's affecting white countries before India and Africa
Replies: >>509723461
Anonymous ID: um1jTbf1Sweden
7/7/2025, 9:59:25 AM No.509723461
>>509723412
It's not good when everyone is old and can't work.
Replies: >>509723773 >>509725739
Anonymous ID: acXlNfh/United Kingdom
7/7/2025, 10:07:29 AM No.509723773
>>509723461
It's fine, the jews will import infinity Africans to do the work for the rest of the world. We just need to keep Africa impoverished so their fertility rate doesn't drop. Blacks will save humanity. We're all in safe hands.
Anonymous ID: TW2DEE+fUnited States
7/7/2025, 10:09:32 AM No.509723859
1619073469249
1619073469249
md5: 1fc40128acacbc0afd08d88bd74d3c3e๐Ÿ”
>>509723073 (OP)
I know of a country that completely reversed these numbers in 3 years last century just by electing a pro-White Advocacy government...
Replies: >>509724397
Anonymous ID: JAgCAuQuMexico
7/7/2025, 10:14:22 AM No.509724078
>>509723220
>South Korea improved last year
WE ARE SO BACK OPPA
Replies: >>509724922
Anonymous ID: P4ABIh0Z
7/7/2025, 10:21:52 AM No.509724397
>>509723859
Its useless example because the country lasted just 12 years (half of it in wartime), so we dont know how would it develop long term. And we have seen short term reversals after that too, last time was a mini baby boom after last recesion, but only for few years.
Replies: >>509724506
Anonymous ID: AdOwce9kUnited States
7/7/2025, 10:24:31 AM No.509724506
>>509724397
I know of another country that turned it around 3 years ago by removing women's rights
Replies: >>509724872
Anonymous ID: P4ABIh0Z
7/7/2025, 10:32:47 AM No.509724872
>>509724506
Afganistan? There are contradicting data, but it seem to be falling. Still high, but so are other 3rd world shitholes. Or was there any other?
Replies: >>509724918
Anonymous ID: AdOwce9kUnited States
7/7/2025, 10:33:57 AM No.509724918
>>509724872
Kazakhstan reversed the trend too but I forget what their trick was.
Replies: >>509725381
Anonymous ID: um1jTbf1Sweden
7/7/2025, 10:34:03 AM No.509724922
>>509724078
and this year too. but still very low.
taiwan is now lowest in the world.
Anonymous ID: FbHQbciCPortugal
7/7/2025, 10:37:42 AM No.509725083
>>509723073 (OP)
If you weren't a retard you'd know the fertility rate will go up once there are much less people. Lots of people are having zero children and a frwnpeople are having several children. The zero children people will die out and the several children people will keep on vahing several children. The population is self correcting to 19th century numbers.
Replies: >>509728270 >>509731126 >>509731462
Anonymous ID: LXYocy4yUnited States
7/7/2025, 10:40:35 AM No.509725213
Only the Amish, haredi Jews, chads, Nigerโ€™s and somalis will exist in 100 years time, rest lost the will to breed globally
Anonymous ID: vpXOL8R/United States
7/7/2025, 10:42:52 AM No.509725307
>>509723073 (OP)
'omg we're not breeding like rabbits nonstop and having 5 kids each in our increasingly overpopulated world.. when does civilization cease to be bros?'

i hate you niggers
Replies: >>509725494
Anonymous ID: P4ABIh0Z
7/7/2025, 10:44:14 AM No.509725381
>>509724918
Probably nothing big. At least if you throw it to google, it give you graphs together with other countries in region (uzbekistan, kirgizistan) and they have similar trends, although Kazaks incresed a bit more.

Its similar for central Europe whit Orban. HU TFR went from 1.23 in 2011 to 1,61 in 2021. But so did others - Czechs 1.43 - 1.83, Slovakia 1.34 -1.63 ... And they didnt do shit.
Anonymous ID: LXYocy4yUnited States
7/7/2025, 10:46:35 AM No.509725494
>>509725307
What happens when the majority of your society has dementia and is too feeble and old to work? And at what population can civilization be maintained? Letโ€™s say it drops to 1 billion by 2150, what does the world look like? And who says it stops there? At 100 million humanity may go back to being scavengers, although the Amish will be well positioned
Replies: >>509725812
Anonymous ID: 0WZxfzrDPoland
7/7/2025, 10:48:26 AM No.509725579
Macau_single_age_population_pyramid_2020
Macau_single_age_population_pyramid_2020
md5: daaabf32f408177c9c83a875c119a76b๐Ÿ”
>>509723220
>Macao
>2025
>0,52
So model of family is 2+1 and even then for every family like that, there are two people who never reproduce. I wonder if that's the low point. I mean is there even a low point at which society starts reproducing with some collective, self-preservation instinct.

Sure Macao had huge surplus of women, but it's not like the couldn't get pregnant.
Replies: >>509725795
Anonymous ID: 7rxObLpL
7/7/2025, 10:51:40 AM No.509725739
>>509723461
Don't worry, we will have ai robots
Anonymous ID: um1jTbf1Sweden
7/7/2025, 10:53:03 AM No.509725795
>>509725579
It's basically a city though. And since Polish tfr is only barely above 1.0 I can imagine some of your cities looks like that.
Replies: >>509726620
Anonymous ID: l7BcTrRTUnited States
7/7/2025, 10:53:05 AM No.509725798
>>50972557
I went to college with a guy from Macau who was set to inherent millions and millions of dollars because his mother was the only person in her family to have a kid. He was an only child too. He had 7 aunts and uncles. That still seems insane to me.
Anonymous ID: tLLeRvgURomania
7/7/2025, 10:53:26 AM No.509725812
>>509725494
It's going to go back to 19th century levels and it will be much better. The trend was never going to last forever
Replies: >>509725984
Anonymous ID: PSe1g9oG
7/7/2025, 10:56:53 AM No.509725984
>>509725812
It will be much better for who?
Replies: >>509726324
Anonymous ID: 50KRV6G6
7/7/2025, 11:03:10 AM No.509726258
1751307651556078
1751307651556078
md5: d56e11cda3005f400da0c71ab6d72bd9๐Ÿ”
>>509723073 (OP)
Nope

Mouse Utopia

This is irreversible.

All the women have arl day stolen houses in the wet from the men by divorce rape(we are talking about millions and millions of houses) likely another reason house prices are so high - no one mentioned ever the fact that at 60% divorce rate and women getting houses and 75% of divorce initiated by women...more houses are needed because nuclear family is no more...

Society cannot fix this. Women have become men. Men have lost their testosterone via role reversal, nurturing children more because mommies out partying and be being a boss baddy whore...plastics everywhere...birth control in the fucking water supply...

And now AI will finish off the job.

Basically my guy... The only thing propping up the entire and I mean ENTIRE disgusting kike west is immigration...selling """the dream""" to millions and millions of migrants every year for fresh blood to feed off.

And it works...until it doesn't...see the only place left to get migrants is from countries that fucking ate Jews...so the jews will try to run to China...

But I digress. To answer the question...no mouse Utopia will be completed by around 2060...and we are in the third phase now:

Only fans (beautiful ones)
Tinder (dating???)
Pornhub (satiated dopamine addiction)
Divorce rape
Children directly to daycare because mommy wants to work and be a whore

No no I'm afraid what comes next is generations of children who have ZERO social template to work off and will be so debt slaves and inflation slaved they won't even know where to begin building a normal nuclear family...it will be completely alien to them.
Replies: >>509726600
Anonymous ID: tLLeRvgURomania
7/7/2025, 11:04:51 AM No.509726324
>>509725984
For all the problems that are caused by overpopulation, like capitalism having an infinite supply of third world niggers to overwork for pennies a day
Replies: >>509726405
Anonymous ID: 50KRV6G6
7/7/2025, 11:06:31 AM No.509726405
>>509726324
This won't last long at all though...they are urbanizing and emulating the west because they think this is the "Future"
Anonymous ID: 23W376+yGermany
7/7/2025, 11:07:57 AM No.509726469
germany restricted women to higher education by a 10% quota, fixed the birthrate
Anonymous ID: LXYocy4yUnited States
7/7/2025, 11:10:49 AM No.509726600
>>509726258
Not to mention the rate falling globally means there will never be another crop of immigrants again, heck Mexico is far below the US in the they may beg for their diaspora back in a decade, and leaving your country may be a crime in a Berlin Wall type of way
Replies: >>509726845
Anonymous ID: 0WZxfzrDPoland
7/7/2025, 11:11:17 AM No.509726620
Population_of_Poland.svg
Population_of_Poland.svg
md5: cc5773ac0fb0063f10f697fbcc0c2fa5๐Ÿ”
>>509725795
>I can imagine some of your cities looks like that.
Theoretically one that I live in does (it dropped from 220k to 180k in one generation), but at least there's an influx of young Ukrainian people in here and it's not like apartments and houses get empty.

There are small towns and villages where it's much more visible, however people who live there got use to it in last several generations, that every young man lives for bigger city. I wonder if people in bigger cities will get use to it that everyone around them doesn't just leave, but vanishes in the mist of time.

Not like in cities of American rust belt (where people left to other cities), but when there's huge amount of people in one place and suddenly they visually start dying out, if something finally clicks in their collective mind - like baby boom after the war, but without the war.
Replies: >>509727145
Anonymous ID: G/b7oJ4iPoland
7/7/2025, 11:13:58 AM No.509726731
>>509723073 (OP)
There is literally no reason to have 2.1 birth rates in nowadays word but to keep retirement MLM scheme going on.
All that migration to keep workforce working is due to old boomers wanting to have free gibs till they die and they live longer and longer so they need more and more work force because every year there are more and more retired people who only leech from productive parts of society.
Anonymous ID: hb2bHqy8
7/7/2025, 11:15:50 AM No.509726815
>>509723073 (OP)
yes, if enter in a post wimmin world. Children must be created by the state with artificial wombs taking sperm and eggs from the genetic top 0.1% of the population selected by beauty, intelligence and health.
Children can then be raised close to nature by state sponsored communities on the model of the boy scouts.
Anonymous ID: 50KRV6G6
7/7/2025, 11:16:29 AM No.509726845
>>509726600

Yup.

We all knew population control was needed..I'll admit that. But they have ironically destroyed evey nation of people that actually have a fuck about the planet and population control to begin with.

Worse they have seeded these countries with people that will explode in population when the system finally fails...and seeing as the system is propped up essentially at it's core by fiat Jew money... that looks to be not to far in the distant future. 30 40 50 100 trillion in $ debt ... It's a de facto default... A very plain way of saying we don't care we will destroy the planet to maintain our status quo because it's (((comfy)))

That's it

Fin

And of course they will try to extend their treachery and control with Bitcoin and all the the other shit coins. Perhaps they will be successful...but it doesn't matter because we are entering the fourth phase of the mouse UTOPIA in the next 50 years anyways.

There is no justice fuck this gay planet
Anonymous ID: U3gDDbHTUnited States
7/7/2025, 11:20:24 AM No.509727040
It will reverse once the non-breeding portion are dead.
It's not like every white demographic is at or below replacement, just particular sections of it. Once those sections die off then you're left with only those who do breed.
Do you think the amish or mennonites are below replacement?
This concern about birth rates is just elites worried about the global economy, who gives a shit?
If you're worried about demographic replacement, well you can't outbreed an invasion so I wouldn't worry about that either.
Replies: >>509727468
Anonymous ID: 50KRV6G6
7/7/2025, 11:22:44 AM No.509727145
>>509726620
>I wonder if people in bigger cities will get use to it that everyone around them doesn't just leave, but vanishes in the mist of time.

If you want to see this spend a month in Sardinia driving around...or rural Italy.

The older corrupted Italian fuck heads sold out the country and sat on their assets forever until they died...now the ones still alive are begging people... anyone...to come and live their so they can at least tax them and get grants to fix the plumbing and roads in the towns.

They do keep their traditions and are based and don't Ike niggers...which makes it even harder to attract people.

It's desperate. And it will be everywhere in the eu in 20 years.

BUT HEY MOMMY GOT TO BE A BOSS BADY WHORE BOSS IN """HER BIG HOUSE"""
Anonymous ID: LXYocy4yUnited States
7/7/2025, 11:29:47 AM No.509727468
>>509727040
In this day and age even the mormons are well below replacement, quite literally the Amish/menonites, haredi Jews, people from Chad Niger somalia are the only people groups that will have replacement fertility by the end of the century
Replies: >>509727914
Anonymous ID: U3gDDbHTUnited States
7/7/2025, 11:39:36 AM No.509727914
>>509727468
Like I said, it will be fine.
Once those populations are large enough, and the non-breeders low enough, your descendants be able/forced to graft in because they are the dominant culture.
The modern world will be the "old world." History is cyclical and technology passes with time. We have a lot of complex systems that won't survive the decline in IQ and births. Worrying about the economy like an elite fearing the loss of his ability to make capital isn't a good use of one's time.
Replies: >>509728270
Anonymous ID: 0WZxfzrDPoland
7/7/2025, 11:48:01 AM No.509728270
>>509727914
>>509725083
Wouldn't people carrying "non-breeding gene" just die out long time ago? Neanderthals were stronger and smarter, but because their groups had around 10-20 people (muh individualism I guess), they couldn't match much bigger tribes of homo sapiens.
Anonymous ID: yNvRk869Finland
7/7/2025, 12:30:58 PM No.509730203
4623b1892d094c1d
4623b1892d094c1d
md5: 2e92ab65548399ca5b131c300ff15aad๐Ÿ”
>>509723073 (OP)
Wouldn't Africans begin to fall at far faster rates once Europeans and US refuse to give them gibs once their own populations start to struggle?
Replies: >>509730908
Anonymous ID: 0WZxfzrDPoland
7/7/2025, 12:46:06 PM No.509730908
>>509730203
>gibs
Africa very generous to it's fauna. If you take away their instant noodle soups, they'll just get more bush meat. We would have to cut them off from modern basics like antibiotics to increase mortality rate of infants. Other way we'll still get 2 fertile niggers from every 2.1 niglets. "Problem" is that modern antibiotics are cheap. You can save most infants (that would otherwise die) for equivalent for few dollars - and this is what every nigger is capable of earning nowadays.
Anonymous ID: WHBgNG5RItaly
7/7/2025, 12:50:35 PM No.509731126
>>509725083
PROVE IT FUCKER, PROVE IT
Anonymous ID: PxrLtYaeSpain
7/7/2025, 12:54:38 PM No.509731318
>>509723073 (OP)
We reached the point of no return like 10 years ago anon
>Old millennial women
>Zoomettes reaching 30
>Alpha gen sexuality is dead due to seeing ugly niggers everywhere
This Planet literally killed itself because of Greed, sure riches will be quatrillonaires but no more beauty and the planet will be brown, meaning even the money will be pointless
Anonymous ID: PSe1g9oG
7/7/2025, 12:57:56 PM No.509731462
>>509725083
>once you hit rock bottom, thereโ€™s nowhere to go but up

Yeah, no shit.
Anonymous ID: DUGcA+lXUnited States
7/7/2025, 12:58:00 PM No.509731465
Things in western countries were soooooooooooo much more pleasant when global population was about half of what it is now.
Replies: >>509731678
Anonymous ID: WHBgNG5RItaly
7/7/2025, 1:02:49 PM No.509731678
>>509731465
no? Europe had half today's population during the second half of the XIX century and the standard of living war very poor compared to what we had in the past decades
Anonymous ID: ufd0jP6IGermany
7/7/2025, 1:10:32 PM No.509732032
>>509723073 (OP)
it won't. modern women are pathetic losers - run through childless whores with an assload of debt and enough emotional baggage that you'd need some heavy duty equipment to move it.
but since they can never admit that there is anything wrong with them, they just go for the cope of
>heh, but I am socially superior to all these other people
which also leads to them self-filtering out of the genepool because now no guy she could actually land is good enough for her.
Anonymous ID: YrZhBKCNRussian Federation
7/7/2025, 1:47:17 PM No.509733767
1738345967588
1738345967588
md5: 396810745a9dda5a42dd66b4f97d3526๐Ÿ”
>>509723073 (OP)
When we invent fuckable women.
Anonymous ID: UdhYyix5
7/7/2025, 1:52:15 PM No.509734024
it's just expensive to have kids. as societies grow, things develop and start to cost more. it's hard to have kids if you don't make enough to live in a 2-3 bedroom apartment.
Anonymous ID: mwqjsC/pCanada
7/7/2025, 2:10:54 PM No.509734994
1722396968899205
1722396968899205
md5: efc97966b3684f53cfcec9d34b39a699๐Ÿ”
>>509723073 (OP)
Replies: >>509736695
Anonymous ID: mookHmft
7/7/2025, 2:43:13 PM No.509736695
>>509734994