Thread 509730941

>A meta-analysis of 63 studies showed a significant negative association between intelligence and religiosity.
>First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma. Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs. Third, several functions of religiosity, including compensatory control, self-regulation, self-enhancement, and secure attachment, are also conferred by intelligence. Intelligent people may therefore have less need for religious beliefs and practices.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23921675/

>>509730941 (OP)
there's no way that plate lip has an IQ that high

>>509730995
He is scientifically proven on the same level as the average, believing Christian.

>>509730941 (OP)
unfortunately, you are jewish

>>509731255
Says the sub 70 IQ negro mutt.

>>509731143
>scientifically proven
then I question the validity of your scientists
Christian, by and large, are pretty dumb but they're not Kill-Bald-People-Because-They-Have-Gold-In-Their-Head dumb.

There's degrees of dumbness.

>>509730941 (OP)

Why do these "intellectuals" off themselves at a 7x rate over faithful churchgoers then?

>>509731381
Because they share the world with unbelievable vile of stupid negros like you. A eugenics program would kill all Christians.

>>509730941 (OP)
you think both left and right has 85IQ but in actuality those the mean euro IQ is ~100 and those niggers you love so much are all sub 80 mean

>>509731529
maybe, point is they are both stupid subhumans
Average "white" christen IQ = 85
Average "African American" IQ = 85

Germany jew. You post this every other week. It is boring. It isnt scientifically noteworthy it isnt political and your bias shows in every post.

>>509731784
>It isnt scientifically noteworthy
how is meta-analysis consisting of 63 studies which shows that christ-vermin like you and negros are intellectual equals not scientifically noteworthy?

>>509731183
>Estonia
>100
Not really. It's a conservative shithole that should be used as an example why right wing thinking fails in action in school and college textbooks.
And religious thinking is present here. Just not in the obvious form.
The thing is, instead of having a religious faith like every other countries, Estonians have turned their identity into a transcendental self.
The past weekend features a fest of singing Estonians that, to an outsider, would look no different from Pentecostal masses.
>First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma.
Estonians are incredibly conformist. They can't even question their own state propaganda and are willing to shut their perception when confronted with uncomfortable facts about their Estonian reality (tremendously high alcoholism and drug addiction rates, suicide rates, STD rates, rape and violence against women and LGBT minorities, crumbling healthcare, crumbling infrastructure, mass immigration of citizens into Europe, high militaristic spending, silencing of dissident and critical voices).
>Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style
Even academicians in Estonia are emotionally driven manchildren who hide their fascist, xenophobic, racist, anti LGBT sentiment behind a thin veneer of politeness. Ask any academician about the origins of Estonian identity and see them turn emotional.
>compensatory control, self-regulation, self-enhancement, and secure attachment,
Achieved here through the concept of Eestimaa. Essentially, the concept of Estonia acts as religion for the local goy herd.
Therefore, and perceiving every day Estonian reality, unfiltered, I suspect the Estonian IQ result are incredibly fake.
They act like a bunch of niggers or Jeets. An average Jeet is smarter than the average Estonian.
The results don't add up to stark reality.

>>509731381
Ignorance is bliss

>>509731302
Those are names of Israelites, moron, not jews. Jews are a minority subset of Israelites.

Fucking idiot.

>>509732683
Oh my.

>>509732837
Oh wow! A fake picture. You sure showed me.

Not really. You're still a fucking idiot.

>>509732883
Yes, the brown, semitic peoples of Israel are the true Aryan Übermenshcen, how was I so blind this fact!

>>509733186
Nobody said they were god damned Swedes, you jackass. I literally said the names of the books in the Bible you posted were Israelites, not jews, and you shit the bed. You just fly into a rage anytime someone says something that doesn't immediately attack Christianity. You are incapable of viewing anything on this objectively. You're irrational. Just like a woman.

For the third time, you're a fucking idiot.

>>509733486
>I literally said the names of the books in the Bible you posted were Israelites, not jews,
They are all 100% Jewish names one even literally "Jude". Jews are an ethnic group that later discovered Abrahamism. Judea, the first Abrahamics and Yeshua and his first followers, that is all the same shit.

>>509731381
Nihilism is a hell of a drug

>>509733486
Arguing with a t*rk is like playing chess with a pigeon

>>509733486
nothing in this image has been refuted

>>509733186
You realize the greeks colonized the levant 300 years before jesus was born and the romans controlled it for 100 years before jesus was born? Jesus was a med, aka white.

>>509734840
Oh boy you retards are beyond belief.

>>509730941 (OP)

What good will your IQ be when I brick you in the head?

>>509730941 (OP)
CHRISTIANS ARE THE REASON THE WHITE RACE HAS FALLEN

"SAAAAR WE ARE ALL EQUAL!!! YES EVEN THIS STUPID SHITSKIN I FOUND IN A CAVE 2 MINUTES AGO!!! ALL MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE!!! SLAVERY IS LE BAD!!!"

>>509733646
There are 12 tribes of Israel, idiot. They all descended from Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin.

Jew means citizen of Judea, a southern kingdom. Judea was only ONE kingdom of Israel. Despite Judah being a favored descendant of Jacob, Judea was populated by Edomites in the time of Jesus, who were not blessed. Eventually these Edomites were driven out of Israel and migrated east, then north, and settled in areas stretching from Modern day Iraq to Turkey to Ukraine. At this time modern Judaism hadn't even been invented yet. That actually came after Christianity. Some of the people called jew today are actually descended from Khazars. These are converts who adopted the name "jew" as their slaver empire was defeated by the Rus, among others. Ethnically they were Turkic. They were semi nomadic, and postulated they were the origins Ashkenazi today, but that is widely disputed. Either way, they hold very little in the way of Israelite ancestry.

The name Israel wasn't even a place originally. It was a person. Jacob was renamed Israel after he wrestled an Angel and through him they inherited God's blessing.

Many of the people mentioned in the Bible, like Moses, are never identified as a jew. In fact the word only appear in Kings II where the King of Syria is driving them out of the city of Elath. Most of the people mentioned in the Old Testament are not jews. They are mostly Caananites, Hittites, and others.

You don't even know the history of the word that you're flapping those gums about. But just to reiterate, you're a fucking idiot.

>>509734951
Yes you low IQ Christ golems are very dangerous and should all be **** (can't say it in Germany).

>>509735115
All the same brown, semitic rubble. Fuck off subhuman.

>>509734147
i was always confused by nihilism
it opens with 'meaning is fake and gay'
then for some reason goes on to pretend it's a thing
gpt keeps spitting out terms like post-nihilist absurdist materialist
and i'm just like
that's still a bit philosowanky when i just want a short way of saying i don't engage with meaning-seeking and don't understand how existential dread works, like legit how do you fear vague shit, the only way i see ambiguity or 'meaninglessness' having an emotional effect is if it picks up a knife and charges me
the fuck is scary about 'ending' it's the dying part you should be scared of, that shit hurts

>>509734705
Everything has been refuted in that worthless pic.

Ther terms Israelite, jew, and Hebrew are NOT interchangeable. In that idiotic picture, you replace Hebrew with jewish in multiple instances, making it completely worthless. Worse, it's tantamount to lying.

>>509732883
All pictures are fake anon

>>509735191
And there is the concession. You're weak along with being a fucking idiot.

>>509735276
Shouldn't you be sucking up cow shit somewhere?

>>509734840
Greeks don't mutilate their sons, follow the torah, nor call themselves using afro-asiatic babblenames, congratulation on proving OP right

>>509735300
If the point was caterpillar, it would still have gone over your head.

>>509730941 (OP)
My IQ is twice yours. Test it.
>t. Christian

>>509735358
Shouldn't you be dying for god's chosen people?

>>509735115
>Many of the people mentioned in the Bible, like Moses, are never identified as a jew.
please tell me why Diodorus Siculus calls moses the law-giver of jews? could it be that you are illiterate as a chimp and don't understand that by the hellenistic period already and forwards the term judaean was used universally to describe the entirety of the ethnic group self-identified as israelites who followed moses and mutilated their penises?

>>509735144

Well, maybe if you didn't hand your country over to the sworn enemies of Jesus Christ you'd be authorized to express that sentiment?

>>509730941 (OP)
pisslam is lowest iq religion,start with that.

>>509730941 (OP)
You actually might be right but we need more proof

>>509735762
Believing "white" Christians and average Arabs have the same (low) IQ.

>>509735614
He didn't. You reading modern English translations. Just like the Bible, the word jew didn't exist in the originals. Moron.

>>509735762
given current demographics I think christanzeeanity already took the first place, muzzrats might be braindead but your average christanzee today is a nigger monkey from the congo who goes to church every sunday and speaks in tongues

>>509735999
>He didn't. You reading modern English translations.
funny projecting chimpanzee lmao

>>509735115
you need to pick up a history book once in a while and read it

>>509735598
Considering my ancestors razed their fields and drove them 1000 miles from Jerusalem, then no.

Also I'm an athiest. You're just another in a long, long, line of morons and idiots talking about shit you don't understand, haven't studied, and have no business speaking on the topic.

>>509736076
That is a retranslation, moron.

>>509736093
You need to stop sucking your dad's cock.

>>509736166
>That is a retranslation
AHAAAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>509736408
Then post the direct link so we can laugh together.

>>509736500
https://scaife.perseus.org/reader/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0060.tlg001.perseus-grc5:1
brown muttcattle are the most hilarious chimps posting on /pol/, if nigerians posted here they wouldn't be as funny

>>509730941 (OP)
>Intelligent people may therefore have less need for religious beliefs and practices.
ummm in this house we believe in science sweaty

>>509730941 (OP)
Yes. Smart people need to become religious again so that they are responsible for the majority of births.

>>509737012
>Smart people need to become religious again
This was never the case.

>>509737060
>Gay guy hates Christianity
Wow that's new

What news topic is Rabbi sliding.

>>509737170
No smart people ever believed in brown cultism, not today not in the past.

>>509737201
Epstein shit, tucker/Iran interview

>>509736729
That's literally the retranslation from Tufts University, jackass. His book was 2000 years old. How can you be this fucking dumb?

The word ιουδαίος literally meant Judean, not jew. AThose are not synonyms. Jew is the modern retranslation. And the proper Greek word is εβραίος when referring to a male jew. Using the informal ιουδαίος is a common mistake in retranslations. A mistake Diodorus would not have made.

Diodorus was also NOT an Israelite. He was nowhere near the area. He was a Greek, residing in Sicily.

>>509737364
>That's literally the retranslation
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
please never change, there is not a single greatest antidote to make christianity as unappealing as possible than your kind

>>509736118
>I'm an atheist.
There is no such thing as "atheism". Everyone worships something. You "atheists" are narcissists and hedonists, so you worship yourself and materialism. Atheism is the core ideology of communism, which is just Judeo-Christianism for materialists and hedonists. It serves the same purpose as Christianity but instead of worshiping an "invisible" god, you worship the state, the "secular constitution", and yourselves and your "rational and logical intellect".

>>509737259
You have yet to post any quote by a smart person, Hans.

>>509737446
>Everyone worships something.
nope, i have zero faith
i do not believe in any of the bullshit you just listed
ideology, god, state, continuity of experience, none of that artificial nonsense
i will take what can be proven and toss the rest, no belief required
'higher meaning' is for the slave class

>>509737519
If you say so.

>>509731381
Niggers have lower suicide rates than Whites. Women have lower suicide rates than men. Suicide is retarded, but you have to be a smart retard to have the self-awarness to end it. Niggers, women, and the religious are dumb retards.

>>509737519.

The guy who reunified Germany counts.

>>509737364
>The word ιουδαίος literally meant Judean, not jew

it does mean jew. do you know the word for french in greek? it's Γαλλικος and it comes from the word Γαλλια which is the word for france, so the greeks named people after the places they are from. are you going to try and tell me gallikos and french don't refer to the same thing?
stupid little cunt.

>>509732683
Christfaggots are so bitter over following a jewish faith and take it out on everyone around them kek.

>>509737830
>Reunified Germany
>Absorbed Poland
He was an amoral faggot of privilege.

>>509737833
it's insane how hard they cope, it's like saying you can't talk about the english because hurr in the early middle ages there were saxons, angles an jutes

>>509730941 (OP)
Jews literally have the highest IQ average in the world, what's your point exactly midwit?

>>509737696
>I I me I me I I I I me me I
>I is no slave. I is invincible
Yeah, textbook narcissism. It doesn't matter if you didn't consciously sit and decide to believe in those things. You believe in them regardless even if you don't realize it. That's what atheism always boils down to. Narcissism, egotism and self-worship.

>>509730941 (OP)
Debunked

>>509738566
The fact that you believe this shows that you are part of the 85 IQ group.

>>509738566
>christanzee doesn't understand averages
like clockwork

>>509730941 (OP)
I have a 140 IQ, was an atheist for most of my life. I'm an autist with no friends.

Atheism isn't good because it's associated with high intelligence, it's a disease associated with high intelligence. So is depression.

>>509738620
Nah my iq is 115. You are an idiot. Intelligence is not a single variable. It includes emotional intelligence, moral reasoning.

>>509738879
>it includes emotional intelligence, moral reasoning.
hohohoh

>>509730941 (OP)
I've noticed that since germany abandoned its christian faith its become an unremarkable shithole. When anyone ever shows some admiration for german culture or achievements its always for past achievements and past cultural relevance. Nothing modern.

>>509738681
It’s a joke you moron, but in reality atheists literally have lowest birth rates and embrace highest levels of degeneracy like trannies. How is that intelligent?

>>509739000
you'll never believe how rapidly bacteria reproduce and yet we don't consider it a sign of intelligence
keep proving OP's point

>>509739043
Too smart to breed and not troon out? Impressive.

>>509738750
And I'm 200+ and was atheist now I'm agnostic. Religion is still for retarded, congratulation, you got a upgrade to midwit status if you became a religious tard.

>>509738620
Physical processes cannot produce rational justification or logical inference. Therefore, if naturalism is true, we have no reason to think any of our beliefs including naturalism are rationally justified.

>>509734705
The left can't meme

>>509735217
Even when people convince themselves there is no meaning they still want meaning. They find meaning in nothingness. It's a viscous cycle.

>>509737259
>Unitarian denies the divinity of Jesus
Shocking

Kike taqqyah
The smartest people in the world are christians.

>>509731211
D is the case for me, but I’m okay with it, because it’s the same reason everyone on /pol/ claims to be a christian

>>509739195
>Physical processes cannot produce rational justification or logical inference.
They do if you have enough healthy neocortex brain cells.

>>509739090
the current iteration of intelligent homo sapiens are maladapted to the environment they are in, it's not complicated, you can tell yourself that the true definition of intelligence is the congolese family with 7 children, and you'll get the "intelligent" humanity you deserve, perfect for christianity of course

>>509738964
Germany has been a buckbroken colony of the Globalist Jew after it lost WW2. Their only purpose since then was to produce products for the new (((globalized economy))). But now that Germans can't provide the manpower due to a low birthrate, and all the product development is happening in China, they are being replaced by foreign slave class to salvage the sinking economy as much as possible.

>>509730941 (OP)
Negros are the negros of the negro negro.

>>509730941 (OP)
>too smart to reproduce

Atheists are so retarded that they are under replacement rates in every country.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/23780231211031320?utm_source=chatgpt.com

>>509730941 (OP)
Not my problem what IQ average euro christian has . I believe in Christ and death to all jews. Im smarter than most of you. I work at hospital for past 10years. I was able to eliminate over 20 non christian shitskin patients. Including one injired Israeli who was unlucky to be under my care. DEUS VULT! My eife works at laboratory for as magister. Im slowly converting her to my dues vult ideology so she can mix blood results for shitskins.

>>509739135
I didn't become religious in the sense of following a scripture, I simply accepted God. That aside, I don't particularly care what you have to say about religion. It's a fact that there are no fertile communities left in the West that don't practice communal, organized religion. Disconnecting from community and atomizing is just another disease of intelligent people.

I regret my choices in life, and I regret seeing them reflected across developed society. The intelligence of a failed organism is of no long term relevance.

>>509731255
That's a gif from one of the most jewish movies of all time btw

>>509739379
Nothing you said countered my argument retard. If brain is just neurons firing then there is no reason to think our outputs track truth. Much like a calculator adds numbers correctly because it’s designed to but doesn’t understand math.

>>509730941 (OP)

Op is an indian

>>509739043
Natural selection which most atheists would accept shows atheists aren’t worth keeping around.

>>509739943
>there is no reason to think our outputs track truth.
If your a 85 IQ Christ golem, this is true.

>>509731381
I can't say the ones who ultimately off themselves are being intellectually dishonest. They embrace the reality of the concept of atheism which is nihilism.

>>509730941 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89_MHRpJag0

>>509739487
>Malta - 88% christian with a TFR of 1.08
>Poland - 90% christian with a TFR of 1.1
>Estonia - 23% christian with a TFR of 1.3
>Czechia - 11% christian with a TFR of 1.45
What super based trad christian countries have high fertility rates? None of them right?

>>509740075
utterly irrelevant, again, confirming you are braindead and unable to stick to elementary points
flash news: the absolute vast majorities of species who are currently alive and ever lived aren't particularly intelligent, even if you narrow things down to mammals alone, unless according to your muttchimp logic we ought to redefine intelligence so that flies and worms are also intelligent due to their reproductive success

intelligence is an extreme niche into which more or less only the homo genus went all in, and up until comparatively recently it wasn't even the apex predator

>>509740276
>highest IQ indidivual in the world is Christian
>highest IQ group is jews
This is the thread equivalent of the guy in third place spraying champagne in his face like he's the champion lol.

>>509740201
They are all capitalistic countries. Capitalism always results in low birthrates because eventually it leads to unequal distribution of wealth and inflation (to keep increasing shareholders' wealth), making it impossible for people to start a family and raise 2 or more children.

>>509740511
>>highest IQ indidivual in the world is Christian
holy shit they really fall for this shit

>>509730941 (OP)
Slave morality is for slaves so this makes sense.

>>509740276
You utterly didnt sddrsss any arguments and went on a schizo rant. Atheists literally can’t rationally justify atheism. Rational inference is normative, intentional, and truth-oriented.
Physical processes are non-normative, non-intentional, and truth-indifferent.
Therefore, purely physical processes can’t produce rational inference or justification.

>>509730941 (OP)

I've never been IQ tested but I kept getting referred to gifted programs in elementary school and breezed through highschool and college with an A average while barely studying and being the class clown. I often get frustrated talking to normies because I find them slow and have to dumb down my language for them. So I'm probably above average intelligence. Not a genius though because sometimes I run into people who are obviously smarter than me and I have a hard time keeping up with the conversation.
Anyways I was raised Christian. Then as a teenager read a bunch of Nietzsche and became a cringe "let's debate about God bro I'll prove religion is fake with FACTS and LOGIC" atheist.
But now that I'm getting older I see the value in Christianity. It gives people a sense of meaning and community and helps them live more moral lives.
I also see how atheist/materialism has been used by leftists to undermine the traditional values of Western society.
Humans are great at self deception and can rationalize all sorts of selfish and immoral actions (Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment is a good illustration of this).
And intelligence can sometimes make it worse. Intelligent people can use their brain power to invent better rationalizations for the immoral actions they want to commit. I know I did when I was younger - I read Sex At Dawn by Christopher Ryan then used that to justify leaving a decent gf to sleep around like a idiot. Cheated on her too before breaking it off, I'm ashamed to say. I still regret it years later.

Most people need some objective standards to conform their lives to otherwise they'll go off the rails. Intelligent people included.

I wish I could believe in Christianity but I've read too much about the history of religion. The polytheism - henotheism - monotheism pipeline, how the Bible seemingly borrow ideas from nieghboring religions, the politics involved with the council of nicea, it seems more likely it was invented by humans

>>509740555
The US and USSR had pretty similar fertility trends from post WWII until the collapse. Modern conveniences, technological advancement, and industrialization probably play a larger role than the economic system itself.

>>509740511
>>509740511
another christanzee who can't understand average, it's incredible how fucking brown and braindead christianity's demoraphics is
>>509740779
aaaaaand the brown chimpanzee goes on a completely irrelevant tangent, probably confusing me for the german poster

>>509740779
>Physical processes are non-normative, non-intentional, and truth-indifferent.
That's just your stupid and false opinion.

>>509737259
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_clergy_scientists

>>509741002
That isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact. The fact you can’t provide any counter arguments shows you are lower iq than any religious person.

>>509740201
There are no developed nations with a positive TFR, you have to look at the differences between communities to make useful data. The Amish, Mennonites, and Orthodox Jews all have a TFR of around 6. (No I am not evangelizing Judaism, I am pointing out traditionalist religions and their positive TFR regardless of origin). Even in countries with low TFR, you will consistently find atheist underperforming relative to religious peers, and find high TFR groups correspond with religiosity and traditionalism.

I would also expect liberal Christianity ranks fairly low. It's not much different from atheism at this point.

>>509740844
Christian morality is the worst and most vile filth there is and your stupid feminist sob story is just further proof of the repulsiveness of Christian morality.
>>509741162
Human brain and AI proves you wrong.

>>509740936
>I totally believe jewish globohomo studies when they tell me what I want to hear
lol, lmao

>>509741248
>I'm so thoroughly colored like animal excrement I do not understand the difference between an average and a data point

>>509741245
No you just made point ai proves me right, it just outputs what it was designed to do from code , but it doesn’t fundamentally understand mathematics the way humans do.

>>509741572
Not how neural networks work.

>>509741245

Look out boys we got an ubermensch over here who knows better than 2000 years of tradition!

>>509741384
Why are you hateful towards PoCs? (people of color)

>>509741384
>just repeats himself
Smart lad

>>509741236
>The Amish, Mennonites
Would have sub-replacement TFR if they didn't live austere agrarian lifestyles. Their fertility rates are also declining and within their communities the farming families have higher fertility than the non-farming. As far as the US goes the fertility difference between the religious and religious nones shrinks significantly when broken down by race. High fertility among spics and high rates of irreligosity among Whites and Asians skew the stats significantly. The difference between in fertility between christian Whites and non-christian Whites is about 15% at best, with both being below replacement.

>>509741694
>2000 years of tradition!
Go just 250 years in the past and prostitution and concubinage was at its highest peak, uniformed tard LARPer.

>>509730941 (OP)

Rome would have allowed brown and black people to be equally Roman. They even had Semitic emperors.

Literally no different from today.

>>509742359
>Semitic emperors
lol

>>509742115

>250 years ago

The period where the industrial revolution was bringing rural people into the cities to work in factories, the traditional control mechanisms of village life were breaking down, a bunch of deracinated anonymous individuals not used to freedom were engaging in degeneracy fueled by The Enlightenment undermining Christian values... which culminated in the insanity of the French Revolution... and the prudishness of the Victorian era was a REACTION to the rampant alcoholism and prostitution of this period...

Not a great example you picked there

>>509731332
Most Christians are probably still in the high 80s, low 90s IQ wise. Its the Christian Scientists in the low 70s, dragging down the average.
https://www.masskids.org/index.php/religious-medical-neglect/cases-of-child-deaths

>>509738543
there is no such thing as the ego, the self is a construct made to guess at the mechanisms of human cognition, like negative numbers in geometry 'the self' can be useful but it doesn't describe anything real
why is it so hard for the mind of the believer to imagine a mind that isn't structured around some grand narrative made of assumptions and mistaking a feeling of coherence with truth

>>509742967
I mean the time between -250 from today to the birth of Jewsus. During and after the industrialization, your beloved feminist/Christian norms were normalized.

>>509741998
>Would have sub-replacement TFR if they didn't live austere agrarian lifestyles.
Therefore? How many non religious communities within developed countries (ergo, by their own will rather than by the compulsion of scarcity) have chosen to take struggle and fertility rather than comfort and slow decline? The answer is, of course, 0.
>As far as the US goes the fertility difference between the religious and religious nones shrinks significantly when broken down by race
Oh okay the advantage of religiosity shrank, I guess we should dispense with it entirely. Whites are already taking a hit so they should just give up, right?

The data doesn't even back up what you're selling. White atheists aren't labeled here but would be significantly below White overall, which is significantly below any religion, and so forth.

/pol/tards will tell you out of one side of their mouth that scientific studies like the ones that showed the efficacy of the COVID vaccine or black Europeans are bullshit while also citing scientific studies to tell you why Christians are all universally dumb.

Some is a mark here and it’s not the Christians.

>>509739205
>still want meaning.
you would have to come up with a very specific example with a lot of qualifiers for that to be true
try to imagine not feeling anything from 'why' questions, not seeing the point in them, noticing even the ones that have answers are detached and useless, and everyone is telling you these questions are important, these questions matter, you must want the answers! everybody needs a reason to get up in the morning! no not actual physical reasons! you need a 'why'
imagine how frustrating that would be when you have never managed to find the missing link between abstract non effectual shit and real emotion
imagine them assuming you do believe something becuase 'everyone does' only to act like it's my fault when i don't follow whatever belief system they ascribed

what is 'meaning' besides 'definition of' and why do you think i need/want it?

>>509741670
Ok explain your counter argument shows because what you are saying has nothing to do with anything. ChatGPT clearly can’t reason the way humans do.

>>509743554
>How many non religious communities within developed countries (ergo, by their own will rather than by the compulsion of scarcity) have chosen to take struggle and fertility rather than comfort and slow decline? The answer is, of course, 0.
As soon as people stopped to rely on children as old age provision the birth rates fell, which has nothing to do with your brown slave cult. Christan nations had lower birth rates compared to non-Christian countries. In 1900 America and the west it was ~3.5 while it was 10+ in other countries.

strippers need sky daddy to not make them not rape and murder

>>509743890
>ChatGPT clearly can’t reason the way humans do.
It can in some cases be better and faster and in other cases worse, it is not perfect. I don't see any argument here. It should be obvious that you don't need a soul or anything ridiculous like that.

>>509743916

>brown slave cult

>conquers the world

>>509744288
oh please, none of the monogod cults even managed to conquer the 'holy land' much less the world

>>509731211
You realise you can use the same arguments for how current cultures are being replaced with (((woke))) shit

And in 100 years time if they win, it won’t be remembered as “the time we were infiltrated, propagandised and divided” but as the time “People came to their senses!”

You are a part of the problem in thinking everything is black and white and whatever the books say must be true.

>>509744095
You are really low iq which part of argument do you disagree with and why. Nothing you said counters my argument.

>>509744541

I know your country India is used to being conquered but we literally have three continents conquered by Christians

>>509744095
ChatGPT doesn’t have intentionality you fucking brown moron.

>>509731381
Literally one thing. Fear.

>>509743916
>As soon as people stopped to rely on children as old age provision the birth rates fell, which has nothing to do with your brown slave cult.
You aren't even talking with a sense of reason anymore, which means you are getting heated and it's probably the end of this discussion as anything useful. More traditionalist, agrarian socities do not have surplus TFR to take care of the old, it isn't even a matter of question, it is taking care of the old that is a point of anxiety in low fertility socities as our entire systems are collapsing under the severe imbalance of old and young.
>Christan nations had lower birth rates compared to non-Christian countries.
This is a pilpul. You've already conceded that Christians significantly outbreed atheists in an apples to apples comparison. Christian countries make up many developed nations, who in turn have made similar choices which have proven devestating to fertility, but Christianity within those nations has been a long term positive influence on birthrates. Global atheism is even worse, as China makes up a large chunk of that.

>>509731381
“Seldom a heart will sing with joy
if the owner be all too wise”

>>509744757
>Nothing you said counters my argument.
Do you even have an argument? Material things produce logic, not spirits and superstition.

>>509744095
I’m not even arguing for a soul just that atheists who are mostly naturalists undermines itself. Now consciousness being non physical gets into soul stuff.

>>509743312
>he birth of Jewsus
Oh I see, a biased leftoid who talks like a toddy

>>509744781
>conquered by Christians
conquered by materialistic, worldly interests, Christians only stood in the way of those.

>>509744888
I already said it:
If naturalism is true, then all of our thoughts and beliefs are entirely the result of non-rational, physical processes (e.g., brain chemistry and neural firings).
Non-rational physical processes cannot produce rational justification or logical inference.
Therefore, if naturalism is true, we have no reason to think any of our beliefs including naturalism are rationally justified.

>>509730941 (OP)
the one on the right is not 85, try 65-70

>>509744846
Nations without a state pension system have high birth rates due to materialistic interests. Christcucks under these conditions have comparatively low birth rates. Your "argument" has thus been refuted.

>>509745217
They are in the US but you are right.

>>509745135
Non-rational, physical processes give birth to rational physical processes. This works thanks to brain-like systems such as neural networks.

>>509744781
kek project away abdul al memeflaggot
so you are counting countries that haven't kicked you out as conquered then :P
even more pathetic than if you had just stuck to the actual christian and muslim conquests

>>509745135
and where is the contradiction?
belief cannot be rationally justified
it's a post hoc narrative structure that lasts longer in memory than hard facts
also
>Non-rational physical processes cannot produce rational justification or logical inference.
demonstrate this and define your use of 'non-rational'

>>509730941 (OP)
I hope one of your turks caves your skull in you pathetic piece of shit. Germany already set to be minority white so its only a matter of time you pathetic faggot
>HAILO DIN
you'll say in a sea of sand niggers. fucking dipshit.

>>509730941 (OP)
come to US and we can have a chat. :)

>>509745324
>Nations without a state pension system have high birth rates due to materialistic interests
First, you're weasel wording your way out of your original argument, but that's not so important. What matters is as I said:
>religious communities within developed countries (ergo, by their own will rather than by the compulsion of scarcity)
I am not interested in discussing what happens in non developed nations as it is no longer an apples to apples comparison of strategies and their outcomes in a level playing field. Within developed nations we have a long established track record that traditionalist religion is THE only way to survive development with a positive TFR.

>>509745505
Right because you are stupid and I already countered this point earlier in the thread . I will do it again. Emergence Doesn’t Solve the Problem It Assumes It. Saying neurons ‘give rise’ to rationality is like saying rocks give rise to grammar. You’ve changed the vocabulary, not solved the problem.

>>509745687
The contradiction is pragmatic or epistemic: naturalism undermines the reliability of the very faculties it uses to argue for itself.

> Belief cannot be rationally justified; it's a post hoc narrative that lasts longer in memory than facts.

Presupposes what it tries to prove: it makes truth-claims about belief
“belief is not justified” which implies confidence in rational assessment. You can’t argue against rationality without using it

>>509731183
I want IQ by nationality

>>509745904
>THE only way to survive development with a positive TFR.
Lol almost all western religious people have sub-replacement level birth rates and only low IQ traditionalists and pacifists like the Amish have slightly higher rates (but falling) and could be crushed by a single shitskin tank.

Its easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a high IQ person to get into heaven.

>>509730941 (OP)
???

>>509746408
>Lol almost all western religious people have sub-replacement level birth rates
Funny lie.
>low IQ traditionalists and pacifists like the Amish have slightly higher rates (but falling)
The fertility gap between the Amish, Mennonites etc. and their co-nationals is only increasing over time as the rest of the population plummets.

>>509745505
Just to follow up with a second counter argument. First one i believe you are making a category error. Secondly, Neural networks manipulate symbols (syntax) without understanding meaning (semantics). As I pointed out earlier learn what intentionality means or look up the
Chinese room experiment.

>>509746424
True, lol.
>>509746581
Since the average is 106.09, 100 IQ is not used as a baseline here.
>>509746690
>2014

>>509730941 (OP)
sure buddy
listen to gaysperts

>>509735660
Christianity is a Jewish denomination so it fits

>>509738566
Noble lie

>>509746713
Also to finish off destroying the retarded atheists in this thread. These kind of studies are pointless because 80 percent of humans hold religious beliefs.

>>509746262
and you can't have truth outside of a measured cause effect in a defined frame
i don't get what your saying
that i can't engage with philosophy without engaging with philosophy?
because yes i do not engage with philosophy so no nothing in my mind is philosophically grounded
last time i honestly tried with this vague nonsense they called me a post-nihilist
maybe that means something to you and can help bridge the gap
cuz things like existential dread and the other feelings i don't have interest me but i have no fucking idea how they work, like how do you fear nonphysical shit like 'meaninglessness' what even is 'meaninglessness' the way people talk about it, sounds fake but i can see the emotions they're having

>>509746772
>>2014
Here's some 2020 data.

>>509739562
You are dishonest in your christcuck belief even to yourself lol

>>509747104
How’s it a lie?

>>509746713
>understanding meaning
You're just making speculations about things you can't possibly know. If I were to give a definition, I'd say understanding means recognizing logical connections, which AI can do already.
>>509747161
99% of people are retarded
>>509747242
you need 2.2 to be above replacement level

>>509747370
You better read Plato's republic (jews stole from platonism almost everything when they were creating Christianity)

>>509747242
And the current average is 1.66 not 2.06

>>509730941 (OP)
I agree that religious people tend to be thick as shit but I don't agree with this section
>intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style
Academics regularly ignore analytical data if deemed controversial

>>509747370
Read nigger

>>509730941 (OP)
interesting (((authors))) for that article...

>>509747831
>zuckerman
>silberman
Oh ok the study and OP makes sense now.

>>509747236
To say 'truth must be measurable' is not itself a measurable truth it’s a philosophical position hiding as a scientific one. You are falling into scientism fallacy. .


> That I can’t engage with philosophy without engaging with philosophy?”

Literally yes. Rejecting metaphysics is itself a metaphysical move you’ve just changed the labels.

>existential dread

The fact that people can feel meaninglessness even if you don’tsuggests that humans are wired to care about more than just survival.

>>509747742
Next time include Plato nigger it changes the context

>>509747553
>you need 2.2 to be above replacement level
2.1
>average is 1.66
Age range issue, my bad. Here's what Pew had to say in 2020:
>Total fertility rates used for the 2020-2025 period are 1.9 for Christian women, 1.6 for the religiously unaffiliated and 2.0 for women of other religions, and these differentials remain stable throughout the projection period.
Obviously this is less granular, but specific denominations will of course be above and below that threshold and both Christian and non Christian religions had a similar and significant advantage over non religious.

>>509748634
*in 2025 derr

>>509748634
>1.9 for Christian women, 1.6 for the religiously unaffiliated and 2.0 for women of other religions
yeah not very impressive huh? control for race and is is close to 0

>>509731211
Adam Green is an atheist, he just uses pagan imagery to contrast with Judaism and its Christian and Islamic branches.

>>509748203
my understanding of epistemology is: you can't know shit
i'm looking at this thing that argues itself out of existence, being told that that is a failure state and then further being told that it's failure proves itself

wat, and more importantly what does philosophy have to do with anything real?
what is the utility, what can any of this empty emotion actually do if i take the structures seriously? assuming i'm ever able to even figure out wtf people mean when these subjects pop up


doesn't really help me in understanding it though being that i don't have the wiring, i'm obviously going to need another method to decode/model whatever causes awe, transcendence, meaning, meaninglessness, etc

>>509749036
>yeah not very impressive huh?
That number includes liberal """religion""'", as I said, specific denominations are laggards and others are pulling the weight behind that difference.
>control for race
White and black fertility is 1.6 overall, Hispanic 2.0. The same as the religious difference.

>>509730941 (OP)
>intelligent people are less likely to conform
Here in Italy, the traditional catholics were the ones opposing covid vaccine.
trans people like OP are all vaccinated.

>>509749475
>, Hispanic 2.0
And Hispanics are much more religious than whites, which makes your numbers even less impressive. Much of the higher religious birth rate is only due to higher shitskin religiousness.

>>509730941 (OP)
>Christcucks are retarded
Oh wow we really needed a study to come to this conclusion. What's next ? A study to prove that evangelicucks are the most retarded of the lot ?

>>509749834
>And Hispanics are much more religious than whites
Funny how that works and how the relationship shows up no matter how you cut it, huh? Reminder I already showed religious Whites show the same distinction: >>509743554 You clearly have some memory issues.

>>509731524

So, me going to church makes atheists off themselves?

>>509732313

It is. But accepting God is the remedy.

>>509734147

>Nihilism is a hell of a drug

Indeed. The abyss swallow you whole.


>>509737742

Seems more like materialism is to blame. Something God warns about very much in the bible.
>>509740178

Sadly, yes.

>>509750111
>So, me going to church makes atheists off themselves?
No, it just put you in the same category as niggers and midwest burgers.

>could choose to worship the apparent creator of the whole universe who is the one deity in all of human history that has stood the test of time and endured the most and whose main religion is somehow convincing and appealing to literally any and all humans who come across it regardless of phenotype, culture, history or anything
>also know full well that the texts related to this deity literally tell you there will be forces trying to lead you astray from worshipping it and that you can be exploited into doing retarded shit like worshipping animals or objects for the sake of hedonistic prideful reasons
>also know the texts say that the status of your soul is an emergency and that doing this very thing is an existential danger with permanent consequences and the texts even say that people in the future after it's written will still do this thing even after hearing the message and that people in these modern times will be prideful and think they know better
>"nah I'm gonna worship the sun or some shit anyway because that means I get to be a prideful badass or something, this definitely isn't like what the synagogue of Satan wants me to do xD"
Satan has the easiest job in the fucking universe lmao
when Apollyon opens the abyss for the locusts, shit's gonna be so cash to see how you fuckers react
I love my based God, pagans atheists and jews need not reply

>>509730941 (OP)
This has also been proven of right wingers, atheist leftists have the highest iqs.

>>509730941 (OP)
Germans are the niggers of Europe

>>509750076
You don't understand how control variables work.

>>509749287
Bro you literally keep making the same mistake. Do you know that?
Is the claim “we can’t know anything” something you’re proposing as true?
If so, you’re caught in a self-defeating loop: you’re saying we can know that we can’t know.

>>509750724
Republicans as a whole have 2 IQs points more than Democrats, control for race and conservatives have an average IQ of 98 and liberals one of 102, libertarians one of 115, you won't be able to make an argument with that.

>>509731916
Funny how Episcopalians and Anglicans have higher IQ scores than atheists

>>509750878
You can't ruin Europe anymore Hans it's over you won.

>>509750878
The comparison between Whites of different denominations is a race controlled comparison, retard.

>>509751088
42 posts by this id seething about christians.
Have you considered therapy?

>>509750270

So, i must logically deduce that atheists off themselves by the mere presence of me, according to your rethoric. Since im apparantly a nigger.

But, i do think its very clear why atheists end up killing themselves in droves.

As an atheist, one is by default a nihilist. And a nihilist will seek out pleasure in every form. Thats why atheists use drugs, fuck anyone, and anythink. Why they eat and drink. Slowly, but sureley all the things stops giving pleasure, and the void deepens.

One feels empty in the end, for all your life was lived in vain

>>509730941 (OP)
A nigger with 85 IQ would be a genius.

>>509751268
the total numbers are not impressive because the religiosity birth rate correlation is driven by higher birth rates of shitskins and the white only numbers (like in your image) show negligible differences, 2.1 vs 1.9 is nothing.

>>509731381
This is less about world view making you happier or sadder and more about world view stigmatizing/de-stigmatizing euthenasia. I'd bet atheists and religious people are more or less that same amount of happy/sad.

>>509731381
the reality of life often isn't fun to face, anon. something you religious fucktards wouldn't know. kek

>>509751535
in the US they have 85 but you are right in Africa it is more like 70

>>509737519
The pot calls the kettle black

>>509751738
only because every 25% nog (or even less) sees themselves as "black", you get that right?

>>509751088
Republicans are more religious than Democrats, that's impossible.

>>509746826
I love Photoshop

>>509751984
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289614001081

Individuals who identify as Republican have greater probability knowledge
•
Individuals who identify as Republican have higher verbal reasoning ability
•
Individuals who identify as Republican have better question comprehension
•
Cognitive ability’s effect on party identity works through socio-economic position

It is driven by shitskin democrat voters

>>509751653
>the white only numbers (like in your image) show negligible differences, 2.1 vs 1.9 is nothing.
The non religious TFR at the same time was 1.6, the range in my graph was 1.8 to 2.1 (and widening) but didn't separate non religious from overall. White non religious was likely even lower than overall non religious, but Whites make up the strong majority of non religious.

The difference between 1.6 and 2.1 is 0.5. The current difference between Christians and non religious is 0.3, the difference between Whites and blacks is 0, the difference between Whites and Hispanics is 0.4.

>>509745904
It's funny that your defense of abrahamic religion is completely materialist.
>but it makes TFR number go up
It doesn't even do that. The reason why religious groups in America have higher birthrates is because of less female education and living in more homogenous communities. Female education is the single largest contributor to TFR decline anywhere in the world. Muh Christianity/orthodox Judaism is a stupid cope that ignores that TFRs started plunging in Europe in the last 19th century coinciding with the start of female suffrage.

This is very well studied demographic science. Every additional level of education that a woman has makes her want less children. People talk about hyper fertile religious groups like quiverfulls because it makes them feel good, but ignore that fertility has plunged even among religious groups like the Mormons.

>>509752464
>It's funny that your defense of abrahamic religion is completely materialist.
I'm talking to specific claims, not writing a manifesto. Do you understand what argumentation is?
>religion doesn't drive up TFR all things religions do does
Show one example of the same thing being done without religion and we'll have a starting point.

>>509751700

Every human, regardless of religion or not must face life. The good, the bad and the ugly. The only thing we choose is how to react to these things.

>>509752426
I can guarantee you that among the most religious "whites" there are many Hispanics who only identify as white (like Nick). If you then add controls for urban vs rural you will see that it really does not make a big difference.

>>509735598
Stfu jeet, you brahamists are the biggest shitskins on the planet, mutt beyond believe. Abrahamic are still not that far gone as the dravidian-abo-mutts know as pajeet.

>>509731183
Bulgaria higher than us I can't accept

>>509752776
>all things religions do does
You're just here to lie and throw out whatever cynical arguments you think will make white people come back to church. Universal religions are inherently multi-racial. There's no theologically defensible argument against filling up white neighbourhoods with natural conservative Hispanic christians and niggers. You also ignored the Christian role in early feminism posted here >>509743312

>>509730941 (OP)
dumping christcuck folder

>>509730995
hahaha

>>509730941 (OP)
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>>509752859
>I can guarantee you that among the most religious "whites" there are many Hispanics who only identify as white
That would only be relevant to Catholics but that wasn't the highest fertility denomination of Whites.
>If you then add controls for urban vs rural you will see that it really does not make a big difference.
You need to have a comparison between rural religious and rural non religious to start making a claim, otherwise there's nothing to talk about.
>>509753360
>Universal religions are inherently multi-racial.
I've been bitching about liberal religion the entire time.

>>509753615
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>>509753648
>liberal religion
Go on, do the Christian Identity bit so we can laugh at you. In the mean time I'll post actual doctrine from based and trad Christian denominations.

>>509730941 (OP)
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>>509730941 (OP)
>>509753973

From greek orthodox study materials for converts iirc.
>>509753777
kek
>trips
KEK

You seem rather unhinged Hans. Did mommy make you go to church or something?

Augustine was brown btw

>>509730941 (OP)
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>>509730941 (OP)
>>509754160

I've been reliably informed that the Chalcedonian church was like a non-stop, actually real holocaust of jews. Could it be that christianity promoters here are actually lying shills?

>>509730941 (OP)
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>>509753893
>Go on, do the Christian Identity bit
I'm sure you can show where that was ever something I was interested in doing. Oh, you can't because I didn't? Oh, well.

Do whatever the fuck you want. I'm only demonstrating that atheism is part of the degradation of Whites, a fact so self evident that it takes a pilpul to argue against.

>>509754236
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>>509754236

Woah, is this Christian being the first 41%?
>>509754271
So you have no arguments except catty bullshit and vague begging for anons to go to church.

>>509730941 (OP)
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>>509730941 (OP)
>>509754359

Praise Je-ACK!

>>509754393
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>>509754397
asians are the worst silly roman cuck shoulda killed every last one of them with glee

>>509730941 (OP)
>people who find free thinking too hard to do and therefore throw away freedom and autonomy in favor of letting someone else, their "shepherd", dictate their every action in life are retarded
you don't say.
it's the same with obese people. of course only a retard would adopt and maintain a lifestyle like that.

>>509730941 (OP)
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>>509754329
>So you have no arguments except catty bullshit
Deeply ironic coming from someone with no interest in doing anything but vague reputation and social signalling-based attacks. You act like a woman despite your genetic makeup, not a surprise for an atheist. You certainly can't argue for the real world fruits of atheism, as atheists have no future and a degenerate present.

>>509754549
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>>509754519
The province of Asia was Anatolia bro
>>509754593
I'm not an atheist you retard.
>deeply ironic
There's nothing ironic about it. You've got no response to actual demographic studies debooking your materialist religion fetishism, no response to the Christian role in feminism (yes jews did more) and no response to the jew worship death cultism that peak traditionalist Christianity actually was, not your heterodox imageboard Christianity made up of vibes and crusader memes from twitter.

The sheer infantile seething manner in which anons on here post about Christianity and the frivolous kinds of arguments they use to discredit it that are not related the the actual truth claims of the beliefs themselves literally proves that it must be true and that they have no real arguments against it. Mocking the followers for surface-level reasons or making functional current events politics side-picking points are not actual arguments against the truth of it. Commence the cope.

>>509754830
>I'm not an atheist you retard
LARPagan doesn't count, no offence, please reform your religion into something that serves the future of Whites and doesn't just affirm good goy status for continuing the decay if you want to be taken seriously.
>You've got no response to actual demographic studies debooking your materialist religion fetishism
You've presented no such thing. None of your studies can dispute the fact that the developed world is collapsing and the survivors will be religious traditionalists.

>>509755115
>you're an atheist
>you're a pagan and your gods are, like, in the clouds lmao
>my palestianian rabbi is real and he'll send you to hell for bullying me
A decade later and they still follow the same script.

>>509730941 (OP)
you gotta be low IQ to believe anything OP posted.

>>509731143
why are you jews so obsessed with hating Christians? have you tried not being an antichristite?

>>509732837
you're trying too hard and you honestly seem retarded. but hey, enjoy your pointless trash thread

>>509733186
brown people are from the southern hemisphere, below the tropic of cancer and near the equator.

black people are not from Mesopotamia / Mediterranean. the ancient Israelites werent black. its not a brown people religion, it encapsulates all of world history and is not exclusive to only one ethnic group / nation. it focuses on certain nations above others but overall its about world history. and you are trying to push ignorance as to divide humanity and blind them from their past.

religion shows higher IQ, id be willing to bet. spirituality is in indication of depth and reflection. its the operating system for civilization, providing the rhyme and reason for fundamental things like law and order. naked negros running around living the tribal life is devoid of organized religion, hence the lack of civilization.

>>509737060
>Frederick the great hated Christianity
No surprise. All faggots does.

>>509755380
The relevant options have been exhausted so does it matter what you are? What I can confirm is that you're bitching on behalf of atheism.

>>509735115
youre trying to correct a dishonest person. they aren't willing to debate in good faith. they're a devil, their only goal is to confuse, mislead, misinform, bait, trolls, grief etc. oddly enough, theyre EXACTLY like dealing with a jew. hmmmm

its almost as if jews have beent rying to destroy Christianity ever since the moment Christ spoke out against them. they've been trying to rid the world of all of his followers as well. threads like these are just more modern attempts at that.

and we got assholes like adam greene pushing the opposite, that Christianity is a jewish psyop. no, jews want to trick the world into denying Christ.. into denying whats been told in the Bible. they are a very secretive and private group of people... Judaism is a cabal, a closed system. and like any secret society they mean to keep it all secret. that means lying to outsiders.. sometimes attacking them, gaslighting everyone into not knowing the truth about what the cabal is truly about or what they have done or are planning on doing.

no one hates Christians more than jews. if there are non-jews who hate Christians, its due to jewish influences because they are 100% the source of everything antichrist.

and jews hate Christians because they expose the jew. they are the biggest and only real threat to the jew. because Christians represent who jews are supposed to be and exposes them for the frauds they are.

take that to the bank and cash it, just make sure its not a jewish money changer.

>>509730941 (OP)
what this faggot doesn't tell you is that once you pass all the midwits behind at 100-120, spirituality and belief in God skyrockets again. OP is a midwit and vaxxed.

>>509755807
>The relevant options have been exhausted
The incredible cynicism of the average Christian shill here summed up perfectly. Jews destroyed native religious sites, so guess we have to adopt their religion now. The only spiritual revival that will happen among white people is the return of our ethnic religions.

>>509752859
OP stopped posting here because he lost the argument and was checkmated pretty badly
all anti white sentiment comes from atheists and jews, and all pro white sentiment is coming from white christians
this is not good for him

>>509756089
>the return of our 'ethnic religions'
>using the knowledge that was preserved by monks
>*drinks odins cum*

>>509749217
Judaism is Talmudism, and "the Jews" are not the Israelites, and they never have been. They are Edomite and Canaanite imposters. And all of you LARPagans defend their talmudic identity claim because of your anti-Christian bias.

Christianity: Old and New Testament

Judaism: Talmudic blasphemous commentary on the Old and New Testament

>>509756436
Lies made up by a kike like you.

>>509756089
So you're a pagan as I said. I wish you luck in making something out of it, but as it stands, paganism is the only thing more diseased than atheism, which unfortunately is probably the only reason you're here as if you had any intention to reform your LARP community into something to build a strong White future the last thing you'd be bitching about is organized religion.

>>509756436
>preserved by monks

Source for this claim, Jorge Steve Anderson Herrera?

>>509756311
>all pro white sentiment is coming from white christians
sure thing:
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>>509756572
I'm an agnostic, not a pagan and you have zero self awareness calling anyone else a larper. You've made half baked materialist arguments the entire thread because you don't even believe in Christianity, you latched onto it because the newfag zeitgeist was that it was a based and traditionalist holdout. Your religion is based on vibes, which is why you're coping by making things up about me instead of dealing with what the early church was actually like.

>>509737060
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>>509737735
these men were all retarded midwits who lacked the self-awareness to realize that their own standing in society, intellect, jobs, morals, languague structure and manners of thinking, behaviour, even their own birth and existence wouldn't exist without Christianity - and likewise people like you who repeat their quotes are even more midwitted people who think just because some guy with a fancy name in a powdered wig with a certain aesthetic said a thing in a vaguely archaic sounding way once it must mean it's some profound absolute authority coming from a genius demigod because you have a cartoon view of reality that thinks people and things considered historically important are that way arbitrarily and in and of themselves innately or something stupid. You're the kind of person who thinks classical music is sophisticated, grand and high art just because it's classical music and you don't even know why you feel that way or where you got that idea from.

>>509730941 (OP)
despite its poetic and supernatural aspects, the Bible provides an encapsulated look at history. almost too encapsulated at moments where certain things seem unimportant. but when cross referenced with other ancient sources of information about history, many parallels become apparent once one is able to see through and understand the poetic and supernatural interpretations.

many cultures around the world have what we now call mythology and legends, which we now arrogantly assume are entirely baseless, made up, hallucinated, drug induced nonsense. pathetic attempts by ignorant people to explain things that science had yet to discover.

and the Bible lays out the lineage of all of humanity. not just "the jews". after a point it becomes focused on particular bloodlines or nations that came from those tribes. and theres a reason for that. the world has been through a lot of conflict, and go figure people are at the center of it. the entire world was flooded. its irrefutable. and one family survived. Noah, "The Father" and his sons, along with their sisters and wives. those sons were also known as Zeus, Poseidon and Hades. and Zeus was the one who lead a rebellion against God, The Father. and it was Shem who was loyal and true to God. who was aligned with his justice, and wisdom regarding righteousness over wickedness.

so the Bible explains the on going struggle throughout time. those who have remained true to The Father, and his understanding, love and way.. his kingdom for the new world after the flood. and then theres those whove followed after Satan, The Devil. Zeus. the "King of the gods". and so The Covenant, and God's children / people are those who hold onto and keep his holy spirit alive. they uphold his law, they preach the same righteousness. and they were nearly wiped out many times because the children of the Devil took over and nearly dominated the world. BUT Jesus Christ came and reconnected humanity with The Father.

>>509757143
Uh huh, and we're ugly and have funky feet too, right?

>>509757143
>lacked the self-awareness to realize that their own standing in society, intellect, jobs, morals, languague structure and manners of thinking, behaviour, even their own birth and existence wouldn't exist without Christianity
If we were to embrace REAL Christianity, we would live in commie communes and live as the most slavish people possible, hate our families and cut off our balls.

I'm convinced there are no white people on /pol/ anymore. It's all muslims and other miscellaneous shitskins. The christian hate is truly fatiguing and I'm not even a Christian.

WHERE ARE ALL THE WHITE CHRISTIAN MEN? ONLY THEY CAN MAKE /POL/ GREAT AGAIN.

>>509756900
>TEE HEE YOU CAN NEVER PIN ME DOWN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM
Typical lib bullshit. You are socially destructive and Whites benefit 0% from your existence or rhetoric.

>>509757599
>now I'm a liberal
Utter retards like you are why most people on this board shit on christians now.

>>509753893

>The text is careful to note that it "is not a magisterial >document or doctrinal teaching of the Catholic >Church," but merely "a reflection prepared by the >Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews on >current theological questions that have developed >since the Second Vatican Council."

Power corrupts.

But, it dosen't lick jew ass as much as evangelics and atheists in power. Not even a fraction.

>>509757785
> Shitting on Christians
You shouldn't let this become the norm.

>>509757785
Most people on this board have no future and wish that on other Whites.

>>509758059
What a remarkably empty statement. At least be enough of a man to admit you aren't really a Christian.

>>509757357
no? I don't know what you're getting at but ok
>>509757161
rambling schizophrenic fanfiction nonesense. The Bible makes sense all on its own without this apocryphal Gnostic-tier pagan rubbish.
>>509757518
>using the historically inaccurate ugly depiction of Jesus devised by the people who literally have festivals about how much they hate him for your picrel background image
retard, Jesus would have looked like a Iraqi-Jew or a Lebanese person like picrel
also
>muh Christianity = communism
communism isn't just when commune retard
the first Christians didn't just live in their congregation halls and Jesus' instructions about going out and preaching were about going out and preaching and was a deliberately verbose counter to the very exclusionary supremacist way of living the pharisaic jews had in which they wouldn't help anyone even someone dying in front of them. Jesus' whole MO was speaking in illustrations and parables and hyperbolic trolling statements that subverted how the pharisaic jews did things to make the point that he was there to overturn the rules as well as make his disciples introspect about their outlook on life. How entire ministry was like this but, as he even said at the time, only those with ears to hear will understand it.
>cut off our balls
now you're just saying shit to say shit

>>509730995
I have traveled there and met members of that tribe
They are definitely smarter than the average white evangelical christcuck

>>509758475
>now you're just saying shit to say shit
not at all, this is what the first Christans did

>>509758172
I'm not a Christian, never claimed to be. I respect God and in the worldly aspect I believe in the elevation of my people, without whom this world is plunged into darkness, something that clearly doesn't glorify God.

>>509730941 (OP)
if i live next to christians, the worst that happens is i get annoyed by some stupid neighborly nagging. if i live next to niggers, the worst that happens is i die. these are not the same.

>>509758696
>two agnostics arguing about religion
Not even the first time this happened to me. These threads are so retarded.

>>509758696
In any case, you are at least in midwit territory. Don't you also feel contempt for these low IQ evangelicals and their nonsense?