Thread 509738881 - /pol/ [Archived: 500 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: ObIu4CFKRussian Federation
7/7/2025, 3:22:42 PM No.509738881
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did everything go wrong because he left or did he leave because everything went wrong?
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Anonymous ID: 0yBO12zCPoland
7/7/2025, 3:25:31 PM No.509739040
rus gained 9% of UA in '22
rus gained 9% of UA in '22
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When Russia invaded Ukraine, I thought it'd be gg for Ukraine once Russia surely achieves air supremacy over it shock & awe-style and "muh insurgency" was cope, people like Eric Stryker were even calling it better than Desert Storm & that Russia's invasion will be studied in military schools for decades to come

How wrong was I. Not only did Ukrainians not have to succumb to an underground resistance, they're even invading Russia whenever they please, REKT russia's irreplaceable most important fleet forever (the surviving minority of it is docked & rusting away at Novokuznetsk since 2023) and is destroying russia's strategic bomber fleet as they please, all the while russian ICBMs explode in russian silos, and russia is forced to beg IRAN for tech (drones) & NORTH KOREA for troops and ammo (so inaccurate it's basically placebo and a greater danger for the barrels & the russian artillery crews themselves than for the ukrainians).
Additionally it must be noted that Russia lost almost ALL gains made in 2022 except for the total of 1 province (0.5 of Kherson province & 0.5 of Zaporizhzhia province) in the south that they DIDN'T EVEN CONQUER MILITARILY but got through treason of the regional governors in Kherson (retaken) and Zaporizhzhia who opened the southern border to russian troops stationed in crimea just like the jews opened the gates of Toledo for the arabs at night

This is hilariously weak performance. I'm beyond elated.
How TF is russia such a weak pathetic shithole?
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Anonymous ID: +yg7raTcAustralia
7/7/2025, 3:26:32 PM No.509739087
>>509738881 (OP)
It was going wrong before he left. But honestly, he was probably one of the few sane people in the Ukrainian army leadership.
Anonymous ID: RDNpHpCR
7/7/2025, 3:26:48 PM No.509739107
>>509739040
Just increase your military to 5%, retard.
Anonymous ID: +yg7raTcAustralia
7/7/2025, 3:27:42 PM No.509739158
>>509739040
>he wrote all that in 3 minutes.
And Jews/Ukrainians say shills aren't real.
Anonymous ID: +BTxujI8Portugal
7/7/2025, 3:27:54 PM No.509739167
>>509738881 (OP)
Russia was not able to achieve a single victory since he left
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Publius Aelius Hadrianus ID: 2Ao7UZp7
7/7/2025, 3:27:59 PM No.509739173
>>509739040
Like clockwork, a butt-hurt belter chimes in.
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Anonymous ID: 1jRH+TG0Sweden
7/7/2025, 3:28:42 PM No.509739215
>>509739040
at least you got out before they started pulling people off the streets into vans
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Anonymous ID: OdcgQn0iLatvia
7/7/2025, 3:31:36 PM No.509739410
>>509739173
You deserve a reality check
Anonymous ID: 0yBO12zCPoland
7/7/2025, 3:31:38 PM No.509739413
>>509739215
I should remind you that Russia never called off its September 2022 "partial" mobilization decree even tho it needs to be officially called off to stop working lol
Russia is regularly replacing its losses by forcing men to sign contracts in sorties of 10-30k before sending them off to the front. Since they're running out of all sorts of Buryats, they're now doing a number on the ethnic Russians, too
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Anonymous ID: wrSGSvPhUnited States
7/7/2025, 3:33:06 PM No.509739511
>>509738881 (OP)
Zaluzhny wanted to fight a defensive war but anglokikes wanted to create New Khazaria with Odessa as a sort of British protectorate like Hong Kong.
Anonymous ID: By6iOckNCanada
7/7/2025, 3:33:31 PM No.509739543
>>509738881 (OP)
That's no prigozhin tho.
Anonymous ID: 1jRH+TG0Sweden
7/7/2025, 3:35:03 PM No.509739632
>>509739413
there literally thousands of videos of you guys getting dragged off the streets bro
Anonymous ID: +yg7raTcAustralia
7/7/2025, 3:36:10 PM No.509739698
>>509739413
>American spelling
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Anonymous ID: pOGudb6tUnited States
7/7/2025, 3:37:32 PM No.509739804
>>509739167
so he was the problem? i thought syrsky was the zigger with family in russia

>>509738881 (OP)
>fifa
>frodo
>little mossad
>stuart little
he had some kino nicknames for the clown of kiev
Anonymous ID: dGl1Xc0hUkraine
7/7/2025, 3:41:16 PM No.509740077
>>509738881 (OP)
He was never good. Whatever success there was in 22 can be attributed to Russian inadequate approach to real war at the time. When already in summer of 22 Ukraine mobilized 700k and Russia was still rolling with initial limited "SMO" grouping, of course there have to be successful operations. And still he basically just threw meat like a retard, while gaining only tactical victories without any real strategic impact. When Russia changed approach, his "genius" disappeared for some reason. The disastrous 23 counteroffensive, insane shit like Krynky - all happened under his command. And then he made excuses that westoids didn't give him robots and shit. But he was smart enough to bounce from this mess early at least, and now chills in Lindon.
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Anonymous ID: ESDA5Q+u
7/7/2025, 3:46:35 PM No.509740388
>>509739040
>How TF is russia such a weak pathetic shithole?
30 years of capitalism and being colony of gae.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEPSUC-UQ5k
Anonymous ID: +yg7raTcAustralia
7/7/2025, 3:48:34 PM No.509740493
>>509740077
Good post from the only honest Ukrainian on /pol/. I'm sorry for your imminent jailtime...
Anonymous ID: Ob+0wMTLBulgaria
7/7/2025, 3:49:55 PM No.509740563
I think he got fired for having different ideas than the political leadership and it's better to have generals that believe in the policy.
It's not entirely clear to me how exactly he differed from the political class, but I think he wanted to just keep defending. Which IMO was the right idea.
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Death_to_JewSA ID: +YAsX6yGGreece
7/7/2025, 3:49:57 PM No.509740567
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>>509739040
>When Russia invaded Ukraine, I thought it'd be gg for Ukraine

Russia have beaten not only Ukraine, but the whole West!
West has literally run out of weapons plumper.
Anonymous ID: pOGudb6tUnited States
7/7/2025, 3:58:25 PM No.509741066
>>509740563
if I remember correctly he did an opinion piece in some large western publication about how the war cannot be won by the ukraine with currently existing technology and he was moved to london shortly after
Anonymous ID: k4iPjrIwMontenegro
7/7/2025, 4:01:58 PM No.509741273
>>509740077
>And still he basically just threw meat like a retard
As opposed to Zyrsky who’s sparing the manpower?
Zaluzhny was removed because he wasn’t 100% on board with PR stunts like Kursk.
They put Agent S in charge cause he’s hated by the troops, has no political power, and thus has to obey.
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Anonymous ID: 0yBO12zCPoland
7/7/2025, 4:04:36 PM No.509741431
>>509741273
name a single soldier of any army that doesn't hate the chief of staff lol
every soldier always thinks he'd do better if he was in charge
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Anonymous ID: k4iPjrIwMontenegro
7/7/2025, 4:06:44 PM No.509741553
In fact, throwing meat is the most effective thing Ukraine can do from purely military standpoint.
They are inferior in firepower, training and equipment.
What they do have is a lot of manpower and ability to mobilise everyone and their grandmother as their government is propped up by NATO.

So they’re simply using advantages they have, never mind the sociological and demographic disaster.
Anonymous ID: k4iPjrIwMontenegro
7/7/2025, 4:14:33 PM No.509742035
>>509741431
Nope, Zaluzhny was mostly liked by troops, Syrsky is hated cause he’s a butcher and ethnic Russian.
He was removed because he had a degree of independence and wasn’t eager to burn through Ukrainian manpower in futile PR stunts which will topple Russian regime in 2 weeks according to schizophrenic Jewish think tanks.
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Anonymous ID: UMna4EqzUnited States
7/7/2025, 4:17:53 PM No.509742273
>>509739698
>American spelling
This is key. 90% of these war shills are on contract with Langley. The flag is irrelevant and faked with VPN. My favorite was watching all the "ukrainians" use the diminutive Vlad for Putin even though that is incorrect and any real Slav would know that. Americans and Jews pretending to be Ukrainians did that for 2+ years, although I've noticed that lately they have been getting it right.
Anonymous ID: IRYlzqWsSerbia
7/7/2025, 4:19:24 PM No.509742371
>>509738881 (OP)
nothing changed since, russia just took some bombed out villages in south donetsk and thats pretty much it.
Anonymous ID: UMna4EqzUnited States
7/7/2025, 4:21:35 PM No.509742540
>>509741273
>Zaluzhny was removed because he wasn’t 100% on board with PR stunts like Kursk.
He was too popular with the men for little Z's taste.
Anonymous ID: k4iPjrIwMontenegro
7/7/2025, 4:27:00 PM No.509742899
Anyway everthing about Ukraine is just an ugly embarassing lie. Besides 2022 Kharkov offensive which was a partial operational victory, only thing they managed in this war was to slow Russians down, in major part because technology changed the paradigm. This is one of the most boring and predictable wars in human history. Remove massive NATO support from equation and Ukraine is collapsing in April/May 2022.

Never at any point of this war was Russian war effort in any danger from Ukrainian efforts, outside of realm of hysteric shilling and moronic dreaming.

Propaganda and widespread indoctrination ensured obedience while they’re fighting a completely futile war which they will inevitably lose ignoring some black swan event. All those emotions and effort while Russians basically just turned the switch from 3 to 5 at one point and kept this war in the background.

All these men died for nothing, to prevent something that was objectively incredibly likely outcome from the start.
>b-but THREE YEARS MUH SUPERPOWER
Germany fought two future and one extant superpower at the same time for almost 4 years. It’s not really that hard to just survive when you don’t give a fuck about inevitable consequences. Germany in 1918 could’ve probably kept fighting even longer, but for what purpose? To prolong the inevitable at a higher cost?
Utterly senseless war.
Anonymous ID: 0yBO12zCPoland
7/7/2025, 4:29:31 PM No.509743055
>>509742035
Zaluzhny was even more "hold it until all are dead!!" festung-tier insane than Syrsky tho
you're brainrotted by russian shilling
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Anonymous ID: 9K8K2zCRPoland
7/7/2025, 4:30:33 PM No.509743119
>>509742035
2023 summer counteroffensive was a futile pr stunt
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Anonymous ID: yZmJDXbGRussian Federation
7/7/2025, 4:33:48 PM No.509743349
>>509739413
>by forcing men to sign contracts
Wow, those sneaky Russians.
Anonymous ID: 0yBO12zCPoland
7/7/2025, 4:34:40 PM No.509743420
>>509743119
to be frank it was mere months after the infamous surovikin line started construction & the ukies had no way of knowing the fucking INVADERS would mine their own frontline that fucking hard lol. that was pure insanity
Anonymous ID: k4iPjrIwMontenegro
7/7/2025, 4:35:46 PM No.509743509
>>509743055
Yeah no, he just did what he was ordered, that is forced to do. At one point they were even sending that tard Bezuglaya to pressure him into fighting lost battles for PR (like in Severodonetsk).
Ukrainians and NATO aren’t really that competent. Some Ukrainians are, but their top leadership are absolute retards who serve foreign interests.

We’re just at the crossroads where technology made previous tactical and operational thinking obsolete and reached another defense-offense switcharoo. Russians are simply taking their sweet time at adapting to the new way of waging war.

Comparatively, we saw in 2023 (UA at it’s peak, mind you) what offensive capabilities NATO-trained, directed and equipped forces possess outside the realm of low-brow speculation.

But I feel I’m wasting words on you, you’ll just revert to one-line shilling soon as you’re either unable or unwilling to observe this conflict in a hollistic manner.
Anonymous ID: k4iPjrIwMontenegro
7/7/2025, 4:39:49 PM No.509743790
>>509743119
…which Zaluzhny tried to postpone probably indefinitely as he wasn’t smoking the “just one push and whole rotten structure will crumble down” line.
Getting high on your own supply is always bad. 2023 offensive was formulated in the minds of some British or American fucks sitting in their offices 5000 km away whose intel on this war comes from propaganda briefings or shit they imagine is real.
We saw in those Pentagon leaks that USA outsourced intel gathering to open-source mental cripples. Ukrainians went on offensive cause some Jerzy from Netherlands wrote on Twitter that Russians lost 6 zillion men and 1 trillion tanks.
Clown world. This is probably what 5th century Rome looked like from the ground.
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Anonymous ID: g4wdJBUhAustria
7/7/2025, 4:51:20 PM No.509744597
>>509743790
Memeflag ziggers still can't wrap their heads around the fact that Ukraine is their own nation with numerous interest groups. Zaluzhny went because movement warfare was over and the UA army needed someone with a diffetent vision.
>Le 2023 counteroffensyiv.
Failed because western partners pressured a broad front assault instead of a focused one like Kharkiv in 2022.
It also didn't help that russia blew up a fucking dam.
Generally your posts contain a whole lotta projections and you can cope all you want but Ukraine is still standing and it took the russians nearly 3 years to capture 50km west of Bakhmut. Second army in the world,lol.
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Anonymous ID: BGMYoNb5United States
7/7/2025, 4:57:42 PM No.509745022
>>509744597
>trench warfare is a fast moving process
This is a rerun of ww1, russia is slowly grinding away and eventually there's just not going to be enough bodies to throw at the problem. Slowly, and then all at once.
Anonymous ID: qZXiaLD9Canada
7/7/2025, 5:04:01 PM No.509745472
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>>509738881 (OP)
He's being vetted and groomed in the UK to be the next ruler of Ukraine. Big, unalterable, things are going to occur via Ukraine within the next quarter century.