Thread 509757131

>The Soviet Union just launched the world's first satellite.
>We, America, are lagging behind and we better do something fast before they nuke us, what are we going to do?
>We need to improve education.
>Sounds good, how do we do it?
>Remove Euclidean geometry, there is logic in it.

what

>>509757352
Literally what I said happened.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Education_Act

>>509757659
>ctrl+f "euclid"
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>>509757928
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Math

>>509758839
https://kids.britannica.com/students/article/new-math/331311

>>509757131 (OP)
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>>509757659
The NDEA gave us the GATE program which is quite literally grooming children into the MIC to build machines for murdering Muslims.

>>509757131 (OP)

>russians launch beeping tin ball into space using captured German technology
>Americans be like “oh now we’re falling behind”
>start teaching evolution in schools because that’s what the commies are doing

>>509757131 (OP)
Sputnik was also fake and gay, as is everything about Space™. Just look at that thing and THINK for once in your life.

>blyat if fake, then American would of exposed!
All sides left and right, American and Russian, are retards. You live in only one world government, get this through your head already.

>>509759347
But the GATE kids all ended up here and on /x/, posting NEET/incels/targeted individual threads...
That sounds like an abysmal investment.

>>509757131 (OP)
The USA was building towards a sound base. The USSR was trying to prove the superiority of communism by claiming milestones.
Notice how the USSR never landed a human on the moon? Even decades later with superior tech and better safety? Not because they couldn't but because they no longer could claim the milestone.

>Prior to the late 1950s the teaching of mathematics relied heavily on memorization of formulas and rules for solving various types of math problems. Students then spent much of their time working through exercise sets.

Sounds like bugman thinking and learning to pass the test rather than to master the material. But it was like all things in education sabotaged by the teacher's union.
>Teachers were hurriedly—but often not adequately—retrained to teach new math to their students.
That's the polite way of saying the teacher's union fought against the new method because the union gets to decide how students are educated not the people paying for it.

>>509758839
It started long before the 50s. The schooling system we have today was invented in the late 1880s. Kindergarten exists solely because the militaristic Prussians implemented it and openly admitted they did it to get the child away from the parents as soon as possible so they could be molded by the State into perfect soldiers/obedient citizens to the government authority.

>>509762029
Well that's bullshit because they removed Euclidean geometry which teaches you how to think.

>>509760470
We're just waiting around for our dreams and visions to manifest, enjoy the show.

>>509762029
>proper education is "bugman thinking"
I bet you're one of the retards who still hadn't memorized even the most basic formulas by the age of 12. I know, you never needed math for your gender studies degree.

>>509760296
The most annoying thing about conspiracy retards is that they believe that they are actually the smart ones, and their low IQ makes it impossible to make them understand that they are not, since they will simply dismiss IQ tests, school grades and so on as jewish tricks.

>>509763903
Memorizing works great if you never want a question answered they don't already know the answer for.
This is bugman thinking: You get high score on test, that show you smart, show great nation have much face make ancestor proud.

It's the difference between being able to write out 'fast inverse square' and understanding what it is actually doing and how it is doing it.

>>509760296
What's not fake is the removal of Euclidean geometry, which is all about logic, from public school with the justification that it would make America more competitive against the Soviet Union. That's the topic. This was the last remnant of logic in public school.

>>509764667
The opposite is what happened, they removed stuff which helps comprehension and replaced it with empty rote memorization.

>>509759347
They forgot the part where you're not supposed to import muslim trash to the West at the same time murdering them in the Middle East.
Offsets each other

>>509765263
>The opposite is what happened, they removed stuff which helps comprehension and replaced it with empty rote memorization.
Just going to lie?

Hey are you the fucktard that was here a while ago talking about the lack of rhetoric classes in the modern Swedish school system?

>>509764667
>Knowing the fundamentals makes you incapable of understanding unknown systems.
Westard take. You don't magically make the student "creative" by forcing him to reinvent the wheel instead of teaching him advanced tools. You waste his time. Not that anyone needs a "creative" mathematician anyway. You stupid, weed-smoking hippie retard.

>>509765800
>Westard take. You don't magically make the student "creative" by forcing him to reinvent the wheel instead of teaching him advanced tools. You waste his time. Not that anyone needs a "creative" mathematician anyway. You stupid, weed-smoking hippie retard.
Just memorize, that's learning. What do you mean what do you use if for and can you modify it to do something else? You use it to past the test after you memorize it. You don't need to think about it just be able to write it out on demand. All these people much smarter than you already figured everything out before you, so you just need to remember what they already discovered.

>>509765775
Don't remember saying that. Link?

https://archive.ph/fAvxv

>>509766166
Yeah it's you. Don't play coy with me.

>>509766254
Are you denying that Euclidean Geometry was removed? That was the main point of this thread.

>>509766719
>>Are you denying that Euclidean Geometry was removed? That was the main point of this thread.
Are you denying that the method prior to the change was focused on memorization of formulas and rules?

And yes I will deny that Euclidean Geometry was banned from being taught to students in the USA.

>>509766147
Westard take. I've heard when you retards teach your kids how to read, you don't even allow them to memorize the letters anymore. Because a kids doesn't think about letters anymore when it has them memorized. And according to liberal ideology, that's a super bad thing.

>>509767594
Yeah that's clearly not true.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/literacy-rate-by-country

The USA has a literacy rate of 99% tied with Japan, Germany and the UK at 99%.

>>509767454
Yeah because Euclidean Geometry is all about teaching you how the math actually works, giving you comprehension. Maybe there was memorization but it was coupled with comprehension and a solid foundation of how it works, which they removed because Euclidean geometry was replaced with other stuff as the links say. Most importantly Euclidean geometry is all about logic and that's why it teaches you how to think which is transferable to other areas of life. It was the last remnant of logic in public school as I said.

>William Heard Kilpatrick, one of the most influential pedagogical figures of the early twentieth century, would have felt right at home in today’s educational culture wars. Back then, as now, the traditionalist defense of math education came from the idea that the subject created order and discipline in the minds of young students. The child who could solve a geometric proof, for example, would carry that logic and work ethic into his professional life, even if it did not entail any numbers at all. Kilpatrick, a popular reformer who was known as the “million-dollar professor,” not for his salary but for the huge tuition-paying crowds his lectures drew, dismissed that idea. Algebra and geometry, he believed, should not be widely taught in high schools because they were an “intellectual luxury,” and “harmful rather than helpful to the kind of thinking necessary for ordinary living.” Not everyone was going to need or even have the intelligence to complete an algebra course, Kilpatrick reasoned. Why bother teaching it to them?
https://archive.ph/fAvxv

>>509767594
>americans are hecking illiterate
How many of those Americans are nogs and immigrants that can't speak English?

bump

>>509766719
Take it shill mate.
Euclidean geometry isn't the end all be all.

Do a triangle on a curve plane.

>>509768420
Most of them are knuckle-dragging mouth breathers like you who think that racializing everything makes them look smart.

>>509770750
it's literally a fact that niggers are subhumans incapable of learning and our country gets flooded with illiterate 70 iq spics

>>509770484
What's your point? Euclidean geometry is all about logic. None of the subjects taught in public school since the removal of Euclidean geometry have any logic at all in them. They wanted to make America more competitive against the Soviet Union so they removed the last remnant of logic from public school, why is that? It's because they weren't oppressing the slave class hard enough that's why.

https://mathsmartinthomas.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/how-proof-dropped-out-of-school-maths/#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20maths%20lecturer,in%20the%20Western%20European%20ones.

https://matheducators.stackexchange.com/questions/2074/is-euclid-dead-or-should-euclidean-geometry-be-taught-to-high-school-students

They removed mathematical proofs/geometric proofs from public school, which is what Euclid's geometry is all about. Why? Because it's logic, and they had been working for decades already on removing all logic from public education. Removing it from math was the final step, the project was complete, Sputnik and commies a mere false flag to justify it. It must have taken some effort to come up with a way to make slaves learn the basic math needed to be functioning slaves without teaching logic, I guess they had finally figured out a way.

>>509768408
The source you gave says Germany removed Euclidean Geometry not the USA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Math

>>509760296
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>>509772801
Alright. Admittedly this was a half-arsed thread I made while I was out walking using my phone. I'm still researching this myself. Some links I had at home I posted when I got back home. When I posted the thread I based it on stuff I read before I left home which talked about Sputnik etc. I'm struggling to even find what it was right now, as I have about 20 tabs open, and in some of the tabs I might have clicked away what was there. I have seen multiple sources talking about how Euclidean geometry used to be a cornerstone of math in public education, and at least I didn't learn anything at all of Euclidean geometry in 12 years of school.

>>509760296
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