Patriarchy doesn't work - /pol/ (#509784299) [Archived: 492 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: dKy60Iz8Argentina
7/8/2025, 1:18:24 AM No.509784299
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Now, I know what that sounds like. But this position is interesting.

This anon (Picrel) is a mysandrist who posted a theory, defining patriarchy as an "incel affirmative action program":

Women are the natural eugenicists of humanity. In nature, males compete for females. Females decide which males reproduce and which don't. Patriarchy, then, arose so that men unworthy of reproduction would have an artificial (unnatural) way to have women: By making men use their strenght to steal and keep all the resources, forcing and coercing women to be with them; an artificial system where men who don't deserve children and wives receive children and wives for their resources rather than for their nature and genetics.

Based on this, all the world's problems are defined: an overpopulation of billions of men whose genetic line should have been extinct (pedophiles, disabled people, murderers), dysfunctional political systems (Anon on picrel suggests that systems like Marxism also arise as an attempt to make women an accessible resource for beta men).

Thus, the incel phenomenon and the decline of modern man can be explained because we live in a time of transition where men have lost their artificial reproduction system (Patriarchy), so only men who truly deserve to reproduce will pass the filter, since women are becoming more independent and naturally demanding of their potential partners.
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Anonymous ID: dKy60Iz8Argentina
7/8/2025, 1:19:10 AM No.509784357
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Another picrel
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Anonymous ID: eWbLVL0xCanada
7/8/2025, 1:31:28 AM No.509785337
Assuming this is ever true, it could only be true where the women and men they choose can defend this structure against the unpaired men.
Anonymous ID: qqKri/XBUnited States
7/8/2025, 1:44:57 AM No.509786394
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>>509784299 (OP)
>patriarchy has worked throughout all history
>feminism is tried
>birthrates collapse world wide, even with minor exposure to feminism
>clearly patriarchy doesnt work we should double down on hypergamy
LMAO enjoy the ruins of civilization you retards
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Anonymous ID: pdeMEzVpCanada
7/8/2025, 2:08:15 AM No.509788099
>>509784299 (OP)
>Women are the natural eugenicists of humanity.
Its literally backwards. When women pick mates, they fuck barbarians exclusively. When non-nigger/shitskin men pick mates, the species gets smarter and cleverer while maintaining its strength and dynamism.

Nice try feminist.
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Anonymous ID: rq9uF7xHGermany
7/8/2025, 2:15:31 AM No.509788644
>>509784299 (OP)
>patriarchy as an "incel affirmative action program":
The anon is a moron.
Patriarchy is a competitive hierarchy which by design allows high quality males to display their superior talents by ascending the hierarchy. It also gives them sexual selection over a larger number of females.
It also allows higher quality females to pursue better mates.
The irony of feminists trying to climb a patriarchal hierarchy designed to give men more sexual access to women is just too hysterically funny for words. Women are so fuckin' dumb.
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Anonymous ID: pdeMEzVpCanada
7/8/2025, 2:19:35 AM No.509788933
>>509788644
>The irony of feminists trying to climb a patriarchal hierarchy designed to give men more sexual access to women is just too hysterically funny for words. Women are so fuckin' dumb.

They get that idea from India, which is a "patriarchy" only in the sense that its populated entirely by the lowest-tier genetic garbage on the planet, thus the men are garbage and act like it, not even enforcing a hierarchy for mating but just raping and scamming indiscriminately. Feminists love using this as a scapegoat for patriarchy when real patriarchies would have purged modern India for lack of breeding regulation.
Anonymous ID: hpDxMpZhUnited States
7/8/2025, 2:26:27 AM No.509789447
>>509784299 (OP)
>Females decide which males reproduce and which don't.
Wrong
Rape exists and is perfectly natural
Anonymous ID: pZu0SqkNAustralia
7/8/2025, 2:30:29 AM No.509789699
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>Round biped says what?
Anonymous ID: cb8Hh3IKFinland
7/8/2025, 2:32:32 AM No.509789831
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>>509784299 (OP)
Yeah, this is how it worked to some extent in prehistoric societes. Not in any organized one. Having half of the population competing over who has the biggest harem is unsustainable in a civilized society.

That's why monogamous marriage became a thing and that's why women's sexuality was controlled already thousands of years ago. Marriage was a socially mandated contract that established the rules of inheritance and the family unit, that had very little to do with sexual urges or desires.

When this civilized order breaks down, it will be the strong, the rich and the powerful who will procreate. The rest will try to revolt and kill the strong, the rich and the powerful, or at the very least, gang rape their women.
Anonymous ID: GoyL77cv
7/8/2025, 2:35:35 AM No.509790015
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>>509788099
>mayo roaches automatically pick some mentally ill tatted up white cum dumpster

lol
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Anonymous ID: Gu7dxfUmUnited States
7/8/2025, 2:38:49 AM No.509790228
>>509784299 (OP)

I don't totally disagree with this but the term "unnatural" has never sit well with me. If humans are a product of nature, why would only some of their behavior be considered natural? If men who are considered less attractive due to physical characteristics are able to gain control of resources and wealth, does that not make doesn't that skill or ability make them more desired as mates?
Anonymous ID: /Yq1zEDfAustralia
7/8/2025, 2:45:37 AM No.509790654
>>509784299 (OP)
The dysgenic genes will just come from the mother instead. It doesn't solve the incel problem useless the women are top specimens as well.
Anonymous ID: IVsVowlrUnited States
7/8/2025, 3:07:19 AM No.509791987
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Most primates do not form hierarchies. They gather spontaneously around the nearest fertile female and beg for attention. Instead of forming strata they chase away the younger offspring. The natural tendency among lower primates is to exclude or dispose of the younger offspring (particularly male) to maintain dominance hierarchies. This behavior towards young males is only balanced by the social organization implemented by primates proficient in communication. If communication is but a tool for pointing with words, it is easy to understand why the upright primate, which is the tool wielding species, will utilize language to establish order among communities. The primate who stands upright does not use his hands to walk. His brain which evolved for balancing on two legs is equally useful for abstraction. It was made possible therefore to use language as a recursive extension of his cognitive domain. The dominance hierarchy for the upright primate was able to extend beyond Erectus alone.
Anonymous ID: A7WQI+4dUnited States
7/8/2025, 3:20:24 AM No.509792791
>>509790015
You will never be white, dahlit.
Anonymous ID: yOMGjwmvAustralia
7/8/2025, 3:28:32 AM No.509793317
>>509784299 (OP)
>Women are the natural eugenicists of humanity.
Just go outside and you'll see this is not true.
Anonymous ID: yOMGjwmvAustralia
7/8/2025, 3:31:18 AM No.509793487
>>509786394
>>patriarchy has worked throughout all history
>>feminism is tried
>>birthrates collapse world wide, even with minor exposure to feminism
You're missing the point.

The "patriarchy" you're referring to resulted in a largely indiscriminate increase in the birthrate. OP's post is about the premise of female selection being eugenic and discriminatory.
Anonymous ID: Hf1wHcOkUnited States
7/8/2025, 3:34:41 AM No.509793717
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>>509784299 (OP)
death to the great satan
also death to the little satan
Anonymous ID: 6BlvgbyVUnited States
7/8/2025, 3:45:52 AM No.509794433
>>509784299 (OP)
If you take a look at civilization and history, its clear that its been a bad deal for the majority of people. Only people at the extremes of the spectrum truly benefit from it; the richest and most powerful people live like gods, and the genetically weak get to survive in some comfort. Everybody in between gets a worse life than they'd have had in prehistory. Sure we get some ncie things now that we wouldn't have had then, but its a cope at best.

Female selection leads to more masculine, more attractive, and larger dicked men. Wouldn't we all like to be like that? The downside for men is you have to share your foid with other men, or at least she probably won't be a virgin, you probably won't know who your kids are, and the lower tier men of each generation don't get any at all.

But we don't have that, and while it might look like we're returning to it, it won't last long. Civilization is collapsing and female choice is going to go with it. If civilization doesn't collapse, then genetic engineering and artificial wombs mean all of this hardly matters anyway.
Anonymous ID: xyOdfo8LUnited States
7/8/2025, 4:12:48 AM No.509796154
>>509784299 (OP)
>>509784357
Interesting take but she sounds like she's talking about niggers, not white men. Certainly, niggers act like she describes. However, history of europe and america pre-niggerization shows that civilizational advance proceeds at extreme pace under patriarchy. If patriarchy is removed, civilization reverts to pre-patriarchy (and, as well, pre-christian) conditions. Under these conditions, women do not become the choosers of the mates, they become property of the most violent men. And thus patriarchy is unavoidable, it is only between benign and malignant patriarchy that we can choose. With benign patriarchy, women can have children in safe societies, in safe marriages, with plentiful resources and infinite increases in the quality of life. With malignant patriarchy, they are sex and child rearing slaves of hard men.
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Anonymous ID: TSbzahjwCanada
7/8/2025, 4:19:06 AM No.509796497
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