Thread 509811402

>Stefan Molyneux
>back to twitter
>on a tirade against young men
>shaming them for not approaching women
>can't stop calling young men "girly" and telling them to lift weights and approach women
>"know better women" when confronted with the reality of modern women
>just avoid women who do and are x y and z if you don't wanna get divorced or fucked over

I decided to then apply his list of requirements and check the numbers. his list is something like (next post):

>>509811402 (OP)
>Female
>22-29y old
>White
>American
>College degree
>Christian
>If older than 25 she HAS to have had one boyfriend before, but never married. CANNOT have had more than 2 partners
>No piercings of tattoos
>No dyed hair in crazy colors
>Moderate, apolitical, or right wing
>Reads Literature on the regular but not dark romance
>doesn't consume porn
>Not overweight
>Not underweight
>No severe mental issues such as bipolar, schizoid, multiple personalities etc.. Anxiety is acceptable.
>High-functioning autism is acceptable
>Not a single mother
>Has never had an abortion
>Wants to have kids
>Doesn't smoke
>Doesn't do drugs
>Doesn't drink excessively
>physically active
>not deep in debt
>No criminal record
>Has an inner monologue
>No onlyfans or similar

>>509811427
All of those criteria were explicitly stated by Molyneux both on his X profile and on his many call-ins with young men.

>>509811402 (OP)
his approach is, we need more people to do things, so is on a crusade to get the right people to breed

his argument is, more of those people will change the environment

he is actually wrong

>>509811402 (OP)
bald old fart

>>509811427
To be fair to Molyneux, let's eliminate the political criteria for this one, since he claims you have a duty to "save the woman from the dragon" (meaning from radical feminism/leftism).
That's precisely the analogy he's used for this point.

>>509811402 (OP)
Just ignore him. He's a geriatric has been that has become everything he once criticized about the boomers. If you listen to his call in "help" vids, it's clear he just gets off on punching down.

>>509811402 (OP)
Collage.

>>509811566
>you have a duty to "save the woman from the dragon" (meaning from radical feminism/leftism).
That's precisely the analogy he's used for this point
He completely fails to understand that women aren't captured by dragons, they're worshipping them and doing their best to serve them.

>>509811589
His influence is growing exponentially on X recently.
His response is always "I see quality women who meet the criteria all the time! And they're baffled that men don't approach them!"
Since Molymeme is the "arguments, statistics, reason and evidence" guy, it's important to throw the numbers at his face.
He cites statistics and percentages on a daily basis. He was just doing that a few minutes ago.

>>509811674
True

>>509811679
Ya his bullshit takes used to get to me, I even called in once and he just gaslit and bullied me then framed the video tagline as if I had been a manipulator. He picked up the cluster b manipulator demon from his mom, forgive him for he knows not what he does.
I honestly feel bad for his family, he got his therapist wife sued because he was secretly listening into her sessions with clients, and by his own admission he raised his daughter telling her all children are abused but her so she's lucky to have him as a dad. That's deep dark triad territory there.

>>509811402 (OP)
Are you just assuming all these variables are independent and multiplying percentages here?

>>509812018
What a snake! I'm glad I finally found someone who called in.

>>509811402 (OP)
ONE

>>509811402 (OP)
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

>>509811427
>all of these traits
>>509812154 has a point. A woman who goes to church on a weekly basis is going to tick a lot more of these boxes than a woman who is covered in tattoos, piercings, and/or has dyed hair. Chatgpt won't make this distinction and will think in terms of X% has this, Y% has that. There's a reason why tattooed women are overrepresented in porn and why women with tattoos, piercings, and dyed hair are overrepresented in those tiktok collages of children who died of drug overdose.

>>509811427
The more educated women are, the worse. Remove the college education requirement.

>>509811402 (OP)
>>"know better women"
isnt this the faggot who started the popularity of the "no hymen no diamond" statistic?

1 fucking dollar

>>509812729
why do you keep spamming this? there are equally as many blackpilled women as their are men.the problem is getting the two to meet, because all they do is stay home on the internet after work or whatever they spend their day doing. they just completely exit the dating pool like NEETs exit the workforce. contrary to the blackpilling jews and glowniggers do on here, most average looking women are not riding chad's cock every day after work. the blown out 8/10 roasties are doing that. if anything, blackpilled women hate chads because they probably got pumped n dumped once after thinking he fell in love with them. lol. anyone with sisters or females in their friend group will tell you that most of the young women getting married are getting married to fucking Riddit-tier basedboys. not even joking. balding, manlet, glasses, whatever... doesn't fucking matter. these guys are consistently getting married. what's the difference between them and /pol/tards? it's literally that they aren't blackpilled. it's good to not be a complete npc when it comes to women, that way you don't get hurt easily or chase the wrong women in the wrong places, but being blackpilled and thinking every average looking woman is fucking a dozen guys a year is absolute horseshit. these bitches are quite literally spending most of their freetime on pinterest. lmao

no, I don't think I will

>>509811402 (OP)
>telling them to lift weights
It's better than the delusional shit that "pick-up artists" spread about just being confident and shit, but it's not optimal. Lifting weights is for Chads to stand out among Chads, not for ugly dudes. Lifting weights won't do much if you're ugly. Cosmetic surgery will do a lot more for dudes than weights, but the 'macho' influencers will never say that because admittedly it sounds kinda gay. But it's true.
Lift weights for fitness and health, not women.

>>509811402 (OP)
I actually listened in to this. he doesn't even begin to understand how different things are now compared to just 10-15 years ago. he just keeps applying his 30 year obsolete thinking to modern dating. it doesn't work.

some guy pointed out it's basically not even accepted to approach someone irl anymore because women who are approached just freeze up and don't know how to respond. his response: "well then she has no social skills and you wouldn't want her anyways, because you're going to have to socialize with her parents and family, and she with yours etc" not understanding that that's not how relationships even work anymore.

women have been utterly rekt mentally in the past 15 years. this IS the fault of a huge chunk of men + women who thought that giving women more of what they want would make them happier. any man who has ever had a woman knows that you make a woman unhappy by satisfying her needs, which is explored in a fucking shit ton of studies through time and nations.

stefan won't accept this new reality because then he basically has nothing to offer young men anymore (which he really doesn't - well he has some generally good, simple advice, but telling young men to keep playing the game to find the right woman is basically behavioral sink, forcing men to work themselves to death against the odds).

i'm now 38, single, happy. i have a few female acquaintances that provide me with access to sex now and then but i don it want a gf, it's just an endless headache. also net worth is approx 1.5 mil usd.

ONLY get a gf/wife if you want kids, otherwise don't bother.

>>509813331
>Lift weights for fitness and health, not women.
don't do anything for women, because it'll make them AND YOU miserable. exception is if you want to have kids (with a relatively stable home).

>>509811402 (OP)
Why the hell would I want to do this shit to myself? I have endless hookers.

>>509813544
If I wanted kids I would get a surrogate, if tight on money with another guy.

>>509811427
>Doesn't drink excessively
Mission Impossible.

>>509813097
>thinking every average looking woman is fucking a dozen guys a year is absolute horseshit
I made no mention of average women in my post.

>>509813606
well it might be better for kids to have a wife and father home but whatever, i totally get your point of view. i don't care either way - i love kids but don't really feel the need to have any of my own

>>509813331
pick up artists are dumb as fuck and usually LARPing, but confidence is a must. the only way you can have zero confidence and still pull women is if you are extremely good looking, then women will think they can fix you and/or manipulate you. confidence is as simple as "fake it until you make it." guys are too fucking afraid of rejection. who gives a shit? especially if it's someone you will never see again. unless a woman is a complete bitch, she won't be rude about it anyways. guys have aquired their entire view of women from online bullshit. only the top percentile of women emulate the turbo-roasties you see online. most guys completely overestimate the level of confidence the average woman has. there is a reason they stand in front of the mirror for hours putting on makeup and obsessing over their slightly crooked nose and what not.

>>509813730
What makes you entitled to an attractive woman? The few attractive women I have known all wen to male models and millionaires in their 40s when they were like mid 20s. And they all already had significant body counts, as soon as they get old however they will be cheated on with younger women, probably even before just for the thrill because their husband are just like them. Complete incel delusion on your end, these women don't exist.

>>509813731
A modern woman would be good for a child? At this point I believe even 2 literally gay men in the rare exception that they arent pedos could raise a child better than the average Western woman.

>>509813743
Pick up does work because due to the high numbers it finds you more agreeable women. Problem is I don't want to humiliate myself and sex is so easy for me at the local brothel that the average woman isn't worth the attempt to me.

>>509811427
Since you expect such a woman I can only assume you love up to similar demands, 6'3+, socioeconomically successful, muscular with sub 12% body fat, handsome, not balding, big cock, top earner in your country, great social skills and so on and so on?
Because surely you're not some fat fuck neet that never goes outside?

>>509813331
> Lift weights for fitness and health, not women
> Mutilate yourself for women

>>509814082
A guy who meets these demands is better than almost all women and has trouble finding one as well without massively settling. Especially given women age brutally.

People here like to make fun about brown people but white women age the worst, by a long shot. It isn't even close. Maybe a large part is because they tan, vape, smoke and do all sort of shit one shouldn't but when it comes to hookers I tell you those above 30 are only interesting to Turks, blacks or various brown races who are obsessed with blonde hair

>>509811679
he needs to provide an example of one of these quality women so his argument has some context

>>509811402 (OP)
Thank Muskoid

>>509814242
Ok jeetoid thanks for the valuable input

>>509814680
I am not a damn jeetnigger or musrat

It is just the reality, white women age like dogs. White men don't as much, but white women do for sure. I would say 1/5 guys looks about a decade younger than he is. With white women its maybe 1/30 or 50

>>509811402 (OP)
The jews did him bad.

>>509811402 (OP)
Apparently he has one daughter. He’s a cucked man. Just like almost every married man.

>>509814082
Not.An.Argument.

>>509814082
Every single one of those traits except college degree are the BARE MINIMUM that the average man could expect 50-100 years ago. Now a woman not being a fat tattooed drunken slob with debt and 25 kids is somehow equivalent to a 10/10 man? I don't fucking think so. Simp or woman either way kill yourself.

>>509811402 (OP)
He's become a boomer (technically he's GenX) who cannot escape the perspective of his own youth. Young white men today are severely fucked in a myriad of ways that did not exist 25 years ago. I'm Molymeme's age and compared to young males today, I did NOT have to compete with tinder, instagram, twitter. I did not deal with girls who were massive beneficiaries of affirmative action programs from the first day of school until the day they expect to retire. I did not have to deal with being actively discriminated against in school in work in organizations. I was not demonized in every TV commercial, movie and advertisement.

I did not have to deal with a generation of females who had been taught to dehumanize me.

Young men today are effectively screwed. The good news? We are very close (more than two weeks though) to the system collapsing under its own complexity. Technically it will be a monetary crash that triggers it, but much of our social complexity will fail. You will need to have some practical real world skills, or be able to acquire them quickly.

Females who are cold, hungry and scared will love any man who has the ability to feed, shelter and keep her warm. ESPECIALLY if the majority of people are still suffering, and you might put her out with them if she annoys you.

Females, like fire, make dangerous servants and fearful masters.

Best single sentence recommendation:
Get skills, build yourself up, stack silver, prepare for the collapse.

>>509811427
Lmao, so what do YOU have to offer? you losers claim that not being overweight is enough and that women’s standards are too high. A woman like this would surely not want losers like you.

>>509818314
What women like isn't important since what they like ends up ruining their lives and the lives of everyone around them.

>>509815168
one daughter
one... one daughter

>>509816923
you sound brown since you couldn’t even comprehend what that anon was saying or make a logical comparison to the standards shown

>>509818557
you sound dumb

>>509811402 (OP)
>not approaching women
not monthly subscribing to only fans, not dating single moms, and not marrying to avoid divorce rape. Wouldn't need to do that if all was good, boomer. Fix family court and in a generation of complete families, you'll have your fix anyway, boomer.

>>509811427
What a retarded list of requirements I doubt he ever said that these are the requirements the average man is looking for. You probably just made this up and are lying just like you are hiding your flag for whatever reason.
Anyway Stefan is probably right in trying to get men to actually live instead of being like you fags circlejerking eachother but I haven't paid attention. Always the same bullshit about tattoos and 2 more weeks for the collapse. Bunch of fags.

I don’t regard white supremacists Twitter opinions. Get a life and see what he says in person. He’s one of the loserz

I agree with the complaint you have that this laundry list of requirements will leave you with nobody to date. But looking solely at the methodology, it's not correct to just multiply probabilities like this together because a lot of these traits are more likely to be grouped with each other.
A woman who is white is more likely to to read literature. A woman who reads literature is more likely to not wear makeup. A woman who doesn't wear makeup is more likely to etc etc.

>>509817701
I'm in my early 40s, so not a boomer but I remember a time when I was in my teens and early 20s when I felt nervous approaching women, and felt I "need" a bit of Dutch courage and a wingman in order to do so. I obviously made an absolute fool of myself many times in this process. Now I try to picture doing the same thing, in an era where everyone has a recording device on hand, and they can put things up on social media. And take what would be some kind of small rejection (by the girl, maybe her friends, or you know worst case scenario is a room of people see it) and it's amplified up to thousands or potentially millions of strangers on the internet.

When I was younger (especially a teenager), the girls my age were more interested in "established" guys, who had their own car, a nice place and money to throw around. Even if those guys were "behind" so to speak, like say 25 and in some shitty retail job, they're still "ahead" of you in that they've got more experience with women and ticked more of the boxes than you. It sucks but, you take what you can get and things didn't really start to"click" with me with women until I was in my 20s. I think younger guys are in this weird space where they think they're a "pedo" if they're fucking an 18 or 19 year old in their 20s. What they don't know is that a lot of this nonsense was started by older women (who are all 30+) and who threw away their virginity or were technical virgins (sucking dick for drinks) in their teen years and they didn't have issues at all with "age gaps" back then, it's only now that they're expired they don't want to see older men give attention to younger women.

So I think if you combine both factors: fear of being shamed via social media and falling for this "age gap" nonsense and intentionally excluding some of the best women from the pool, they're fucking themselves over. The "gap" isn't the problem, it wasn't in the 90s, it's throwing away virginity and not getting married.

>>509811427
Someone's a spoiled brat.

>>509811427
>Demands perfection from a woman when he's not perfect himself

This is a major problem with your thinking. The absolute disdain you people have for tattoos, for example, not only severely limits your pool but it's also highly judgmental which is a turnoff to ALL women.

New Jeetcel thread just dropped!

>>509814082
big-cocked swede here, net worth 1.5 mil usd, made approx 330k usd last year, average looks, just below average height, top tier social skills, approx 16-18% body fat but can bench 135kg and deadlift 180kg, absolutely top earner in my country, no balding, high iq.

women aren't even interested in me beyond having casual sex whenever they are in the mood, or they just want me because im rich (house+apartment, no mortgages). you're wrong, sven.

Not an argument.

>>509811427

hey this is my wife

she has OCD which is probably her only downside, but she ticks all the other boxes.

Protip lads: find a girl that went to university, but lived at home with her parents. She went from living with her parents to living with me.

>>509813743
insanely wrong. Even ugly women have extreme levels of confidence, and justifiable so, because any woman regardless of her weight or facial attractiveness can get a thousand suitors vying for her attention in the matter of hours, if she so chooses.

>>509811402 (OP)
>women
>wo - men
>woe - men
When I was a child, I played like a child, I spake like a child... then I grew up.

>>509811427
Move to a non-cucked country with an AOC of >15 or 16.
I look for women 16-24.
>European (not just "white" I'll take on Magyars or Fins, or Baltoids)
>No college degree
>Religion not important, just not an atheist
>if older than 25.. already disqualified since I date 16-24
>earrings are fine, tattoos are okay if they're not gay meme tattoos
>no hair dye, sure.
>I don't want a bitch who reads because all literature is liberal post-protestant propaganda
>Girls can consume porn, I don't care.
>Definitely no fatties
>Can be anorexic I don't care
>All women are mentally ill, just figure it out
>Autistic girls > Neurotypical girls
>Not a single mother
>never had an abortion
>wants kids
>would rather she smokes
>weed is fine
>alcoholics are definitely excluded
>girls who get physically active tend to latch onto wheyfu culture and are obnoxious cunts
>Everyone is in debt but dating someone with a college degree like Steven Mollycuck wants ensures you will date someone with debt
>depends on the crime
>would rather she didn't so I can replace her inner thoughts with my voice
>16 year olds can't have onlyfans.

>>509814143
>A guy who meets these demands is better than almost all women
That's precisely the point. It is not realistic for a woman to expect such a man, because they're fewer than one in a million and exceedingly few women match that kind of standard. Likewise it's not reasonable for the average polcel to expect a woman that is as rare as the man described above.
A woman of equal worth to the average polcel is quite low value.

>>509816923
You know what women took for granted from men a hundred years ago? Having a job, not living in mom's basement, not playing video games and jerking off to Japanese cartoons all day.
Yeah women are worse today, but so are the men. The degradation of us as a species over the past 100 years is staggering.

>>509811402 (OP)
Man he really fell off. He used to be the king of misogyny.

>>509811402 (OP)
Literally everything he said is true and you know it's true because you need to cope by turning "touch grass, nerd" into "let me do a research project and fact check that".

>>509811402 (OP)
the only roasties that I talk to at work are either 50 and despressed with a cat or beaners with half black kids by different babydaddys. Theres one cute young one but she leaves her hoodie down just enough to show off her self harm scars. There is not a single pretty normal young woman in the whole place of two hundred people.

>>509811402 (OP)
If you had just given him more than $1, all of this could have been prevented

>>509811402 (OP)
People are still a part of this guy's cult? lol

>>509811402 (OP)
>Spending time and money on modern women

>>509811402 (OP)
I am going to be 100% honest with you. Relationships are tough and it's about forming a deeper connection. You can be angry towards whatever you want, but this list of qualifications hits the same as the list of qualifications that women have for men when you write those lists of what women want. Key phrase "when you write those lists of what women want".

What do people here base their view of relationships on?

Sex (superficial connection)
Trauma (past shit experiences)
Appearance (superficial)
Things they see online (other people with trauma and superficial connection)
Porn (warps perspectives)
Violence in places like this(shuts your nervous system down further)
Feelings of loneliness and isolation (more disconnect)

The trope of "it comes when you dont expect it to" is a common saying for a reason. If you go do things while boggling women and looking to fuck, you will probably fail. Some don't, but if you talk to them, they usually end up not being able to form healthy relationships (yes, even men). Men and women aren't as different as you all let on.

Do you think people who are happy at concerts with supportive social circles go around oggling others thinking of sex 24/7? No. They maintain boundaries and treat people like people- giving the benefit of the doubt, trying to see the best in them, being decent, and maintaining appropriate boundaries.

The feedback you typically get here isn't kind. Kindness sets you free. Kindness to yourself and others. The trauma and degeneracy paralyze you. I know many here will reject this framework.

This is the true tragedy of self hatred and trauma. You're in a hole and rather than pausing, grieving the fact you are in the hole, and realizing it's okay to do something different, the anger and misery consume you all. I know because I have parts that have felt the same. Just states of your nervous system. Valid, but they won't save you.

>>509813097
Not a virgin = doesn’t deserve a ring. Fuck off simp. Adulterers should be publicly executed.

>>509821861
He's gonna be a good boy from now on, otherwise they will deplatform him again.

>>509814082
Why are you listing shit women don't give a shit about? Make a list of things women care about, and then do the maths. For example the average woman wants someone that earns over $200k/y, start with just that.

>>509822379
If you buy enough lottery tickets you could become a millionaire. This is literally true.

>>509823240
It is difficult to understate just how much psychological damage occurs in the young mind in never experiencing love when it was supposed to. It creates invisible but ever present and outwardly manifesting psychological wounds that may heal over time, but never disappear. It is a lifelong crippling of the mind, affecting things like confidence, self-esteem, healthy thought processes, and inability to cope with the difficulties in life in a healthy way. It breeds attitudes of perpetual envy and anger and depression. Especially when said individuals are constantly bombarded by images and media of people having lived their best life while they missed out and can never experience, ever. Because time is only linearly forward.

A means to try and "heal the mind" which has already happened for many who have resigned themselves to apathy and quiet resentment, but it doesn't remove the scar. The scar is always there. Always present. And it will always serve as a reminder, and always influence future thoughts and decisions and actions.

>>509823731
>Comparing the odds of going out to meet a woman in the real world to winning the lottery
Have you considered just trooning out? You're kind of a lost cause.

>>509811402 (OP)
why are you faggots so obsessed with internet celebrities? are you women or just NPCs?

>>509811402 (OP)
IDK I used to like some of his content years ago but I think older people are having a hard time understanding that we live in a completely different and new paradigm and their advice is just outdated but their sense of self worth is probably tied to experience and the advice that they do have.

>>509811402 (OP)
Stefan has become the western equivalent of Hideaki Anno. Stumbled into some luck and thinks it's a blueprint for success for the rest of us.

>>509813368
I'm richer than you, and your post is a cope. Stating you are happy? Right, I believe anyone who goes out of their way to state as much. Second, 2nd happiness is for children; knowledge is a man's pursuit. Not developing a long-term relationship with a woman outside of sex makes you pretty much a homosexual. As a result, your outcome is the same—no heterosexual loving relationship. You should get married, regardless of whether kids are a part of it, because a long-term human connection is one of the few things worth working for. And divorce is a child's worry; making it past year 2, you're golden. Also god doesnt reward selfish single men who hoarde wealth, camel meet needle etc etc
Congrats, literally every part of your post makes you a failure and a welfare nigger is wealthier then you in the eyes of God

>>509824884
this. after being married for 25 years and having his daughter, he faces two challenges:

1. he's entirely out of touch with reality, living in an established marriage/household and not experiencing the challenges of dating today
2. having a daughter, he has to turn a blind eye in certain aspects because he would break the fuck down if he didn't

he spoke in some other show about how he finds wifejak memes warm and funny, giving examples such as "wow, taking this longer route that took 5 hours instead of 2 hours to eat at that particular mcdonalds was certainly the right choice - wifejak".

he would scold anyone for reasoning in that retarded way, but since its wifejak, he can't because then he has to realize his wife/daughter is a fucking retard too

>>509825265
>I'm richer than you
lmfao, have a good life brother, do whatever pleases you

>>509813097
The problem with dealing with women is the same problem dealing with niggers. There are decent ones out there but you can't know what you're dealing with until it's too late. The stakes are simply too high in current year for a male with a stable life to insert some random chaotic variable that could literally destroy him.

>>509825367
did you think you were the only millionaire posting nonce? Youre not special, its not impressive. I can tap my broker to spend your networth today. Doesnt change your forgoing being a man to be a hedonist

>>509825265
Kek 8/10 bait

>>509825478
did you think that was the point of my post, you retard? did you read what i responded to?

I feel bad for zoomoids. But it's also not my problem.

>>509825585
>But it's also not my problem
isn't this mindset the entire problem with boomers?

>>509814082
>>509818314
>>509820079
>>509820177
>Women
>Leftists
>Poor reading comprehension
Every time. Amazing, really.

>>509811427
>Reads on the reg
Ngmi lmao

>>509825648
Us millennials were also fucked over by boomers. I didn't cause the degeneration of society to this degree and now it's every man for himself. Sorry zoomies.

>>509825648
>implying zoomies can fairly complain about "Ive got mine" rule, when they will never know how having theirs feels

>>509825265
Yeah? Well I'm richer than you *and* I'm taller. The reason your call is waiting when you call your broker? He's speaking to me, wait in line.
Every word of what you said is reheated "uh, just please keep participating in society man, I know it's shit but you just like you just gotta".
If you want men eagerly participating in society, offer a better deal because nobody gives a flying fuck about shaming tactics anymore, actually they never did but they had to kinda pretend that they did.

>>509811566
Captain Save a Hoe

>>509825760
Solution is just men just marry / date the generation of woman younger than them.
Of course, that relies on the generations of woman not acting like retards so yes currently we are all screwed for dating, thanks "ladies".

>>509825314
>entirely out of touch with reality,
this. at the end of the day the reality is, the ONLY way you're getting a "WIFE" material woman is
> she was raised outside the US at least until she was 13
> has STRONG family ties to a two-parent household, never competing for attention from her father
> embraces her feminine ROLE
not even touching on looks at this point.
MARRIAGE is a business partnership. Find someone you can incorporate with. Then keep her away from everyone and society or you'll end up in divorce.

Modern adult males are the other liability
> don't embrace challenges
> don't know how to be decisive
> don't know how to LEAD
> total momma's boys
> only social skills they have are from XBOX live
> massive pussies

>>509811427
there are like 5 of those women on earth

>>509826033
>date the generation of woman younger than them.
or younger
women are CRAVING for men that will lead them (i.e. be their literal 'Daddy' in life)
...today's adult male are FAGGOTS

>>509811402 (OP)

Neons have a new agenda to make the public hate young men so they can shame all of them into military service and the public will support it

>>509811427
My Hong Kong fiancée fits that criteria. Except for the White and American part. She turned 30 early this year though.

>>509811402 (OP)
>"know better women" when confronted with the reality of modern women
i hate boomers ans gen x so fucking much man. my dad was a weak retard that ruined my sister and she divorced a GREAT guy after SIX months like she's angelina jolie or some shit. now she's gay and living alone and living a life of travelling and partying that will ring so hollow in a few more years and i'll have to deal with my children's aunt being an old loon.
meanwhile her ex rebounded after a couple years and is happy with a wife and kid

>>509825550
You provided literally one iota of insight into women, then you trail off like Stephan into unrelated pontificating. Yeah I read your post, i havent bother with stephan in close to 10 years and no one ITT should either unless its a history video in one of "the true story of.." segments. I take issue you confidently giving advice counter to 2000 years of Christian thought. You think you have access to sex bc youre so smooth? kek


>>509825988
nigger, the entire boomer generations comedy is centered around begrudignly fulfilling the duty of marriage. Point is, the amount of vanity thinking your situation is any harder to when men literally had their wives at risk of rape of absconding in some raid is somehow less hard then overcoming the perills of social media is fucking retarded. The shit you got isn't new. Read any newspaper from the 1800s, America has been in a perpetual end of white America for 200 years. If you were to measure whites by white standard in 1776, USA is MAYBE 20% white. Its perspective, stop crying

>>509825988
Assuming that post wasn't bait if you've notice all they have left is shaming tactics because they have no argument anymore. Always disregard shaming tactics.

reminder not a single person in the west is as sexually active as your grandparents and great grandparents during the 60s sexual revolution. Your grandfather had no issue with the "cock carousel"

>>509826400
"they" nigger, post your hands. The tactic is turning you towards duty. denounce the talmud in your next post you demoralizing kike. Any man who wants to be married will be

>>509814082
I fit every one of these except 6’3 and I’m 6’0. Yes I am considered Chad. Yes I am still blackpilled on women. Thanks

>>509811402 (OP)
molyjew hates his family but wants to lecture me about starting one?

fuck off stefan you hypocritical kike

>>509826311
>America has been in a perpetual end of white America for 200 years.
what does it matter? something obviously changed recently because men stopped approaching women and both sexes stopped having kids. saying "it was always like this" doesn't mean anything when the symptoms have changed drastically

>>509824884
>>509825314
I think they are mad the goyim aren't breeding more tax cattle. Take this other philosopher for example who goes on TV and cries. Who will pay for their pensions? How could the world turn like this on their watch? I guess they realize they don't have as much impact on the world as they thought they would and this rubs them the wrong way.

>>509811427
>not overweight
Just this requirement alone takes 80% of them off the table thanks to the body positivity brainwashing.
They look like mothers of two+ before they've even had any kids.

>>509811402 (OP)
I wouldn't give him half a dollar, let alone 1.

>>509826681
>saying "it was always like this" doesn't mean anything when the symptoms have changed drastically
is that what they said when the concept of being a teenager was introduced? Howd men turn out losing women going from children to adults, to children to teens to adults? Pretty fine, were all still here. If life expectancy scales upward, I'm sure you can name a few 90 years in your family, correct? so marriage becomes a game where people test and fail careers before they commit to marriage, or hell, maybe we gravitate back towards arranged marriages. If your goal is genuinely diagnose and help, I'm all for it. Theres too much on this ill forsaken board to demoralize, specifically young men on the opposite gender. We are basically only a 100 years into having teenagers. As long as there is no blackpilling over redpilling then I'm all for the discussion.

>>509811679
>I see quality women who meet the criteria all the time! And they're baffled that men don't approach them!
I have three qualities in a woman I look for:
>Debt free
>Virgin
>No Tattoos
100% of women are born bearing these qualities. Less than 1% of women have these qualities by the time they are "legal".
Women literally only have to do nothing and win. Just remain in their new state. They can't do it. Every woman is an open box, a scratch and dent, a used rental car driven and damaged by hundreds of drivers.
I just want a new one, not a lemon. That's all I am asking. That is not asking too much.

>>509826999
>demoralize, specifically young men on the opposite gender.
it's not about demoralizing, it's accepting what's true. if you absolutely want a gf, or if you specifically want kids, then go for it.
life can be great without a wife and kids too, as more and more people are realizing

>>509811427
>Has an inner monologue

There's a 0% chance of you ever making it when you fall for retarded dehumanizing propaganda like this.

>>509827002
jewish money isnt real, they were never virgins, I agree on the tattoos

>>509826517
I denounce the talmud 100%.. kek I still think this is bait but that is what makes this place so much fun.

>>509811402 (OP)
Kek the molyneux dating poster is back, I didn't even know he talked about dating, or maybe I saw one video about it, anyway I haven't watched him much. You seemed to ignore my posts last time anyway so whatever. I said I agree with you that most people here are pathetic, haven't even done one approach and yet say they're not going to do it because they'll get arrested. I recommended Day Bang by Roosh. I also said I have mixed feelings about cold approach, it sucks, but it also seems to be my only option. Last girl I approached totally ignored me. I have approached hundreds of girls and I don't think you really get desensitized to rejection. The Boomhauer mentality, you don't really grow it, either you have it already or you don't. I have seen a little bit of desensitization when I've done like 4 or more approaches in one day, but that's hard for me. For some reason I find it much harder to approach girls who are walking or standing now, I almost only approach sitting girls, but I have to get back to trying with walking and standing girls, because sitting girls are too few.

https://youtu.be/N7FVmeJXwCY

>>509826553
So if a woman fits all the above mentioned criteria except maybe she's slept with a hundred men, or maybe she has a black child, would you consider a relationship with her?

>>509814082
>Since you expect such a woman
I expect three things
>>509827002
Are you a debt-free virgin without tattoos? I am. Well roastie? Are you?

imagine wanting to participate in this moloch hellhole system

>>509820474
my wife has OCD too. its fucking brutal sometimes but i think there's a definite connection between good wife material and OCD.

>>509811427
That's like the ick list women made

>>509811402 (OP)
TOTAL HUMAN EXTINCTION

>>509825314
wifejak needs to be murdered and raped
pudgy penguins are the true meme

>>509811402 (OP)
I never listen to goofballs who can be bought for a dollar.

>>509827127
>as more and more people are realizing
unfortunate causality of shaming teen pregnancy. If you wait too long, you will think yourself out of children. Its not an assessment based on fulfillment though, its just math that works in the persons favor within a fake fiat system. Would anyone realize being married no kids, or single kids is more fulfilling if jewish fiat didn't exist?

>>509817701
Good post.
Except while silver is perfectly acceptable and encouraged to stack, guys should be stacking gold too. Don't think of gold in terms of ounces anymore, think grams. The price of grams will soon resemble the prices we used to see for ounces.
>The central banks of the world all stack gold.
>Judy Shelton is talking about gold backed treasury bonds and has said Trump likes the idea.
>Physical gold is now a tier 1 asset in banks thanks to Basel 3.
>China and Russia accumulate gold hand over fist and there's talk of a gold backed BRICS currency.
>The price of gold went 30x in the 1970s during the last bout of inflation. (btw, 31 grams to a troy oz ;-)

>>509813907
>Problem is I don't want to humiliate myself
All you really needed to say

>>509811566
>"save the woman from the dragon" (meaning from radical feminism/leftism)
so, save them from themselves? ngmi

>>509811402 (OP)
Grift mode reactivated

Don't know where his videos are. Anyway I just went on his bitchute and watched half of a video he posted in the last hour.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/X5sZwx4sJiic

Seems like an absolute retard.

>Every day you don't approach women your sexual market value diminishes.

Total bullshit. I find that approaching women is kind of antithetical to self-improvement. Whenever I totally forget women my life improves in every way. He might be a psyop. They brainwash you to care a lot about women. I notice it in myself. I have this constant desire for a date in the back of my head. I don't think it's innate. I think it's implanted. And it enslaves you. THAT is what diminishes you and your potential.

>>509811402 (OP)
He's a smart guy. He knows the real cause of the sex divide.
He also has a daughter. He's never going to advocate for her rights to be taken away because other women abuse theirs.
And for a guy who yells at single moms for picking the wrong man, and knows that the majority of spanking violence towards children is conducted by women, his willful blindness is even more pathetic.

>>509811402 (OP)
>literally just steal Andrew Tate's playbook
>get 1000x more engagement and permanent seethe on /pol/
The_Donald refugees make it too easy.

>>509811402 (OP)

He has been disconnected from reality for some time.

>>509827172
No, simply put. I don’t even want a woman if she’s slept alarmingly outside her race at any point, let alone has a child. I’m not going to support a child that isn’t mine either. My view on bodycount is I would rather have a virgin and not deal with the headache and drama that comes from woman trauma.

Personally, I set my sights between the ages of 18-22, on girls who haven’t had a bar phase yet or been to a large party college and I start there. If you want to know why I believe this way, it’s just simply put from life experience.

My exes have cheated, started onlyfans, slept around with the town, fucked my friends behind my back. Meanwhile I was starting a business and working my ass off. Well now I’m far better off than most of my generation and I have the chance to be “picky” and they don’t like that. So now I’m being selective because it took a really long time and a lot of hard work for me to get where I am today, and I almost let some whore ruin it all for my in the past by letting her fuck with my mental.

I’m a zoomer by the way, my friends haven’t faired better. One was gonna marry his girl he believed and she secretly was sneaking out at night to work at a strip club.

If you want to get down to the real meat and potatoes of what I would find acceptable bodycount wise. It would depend on the woman, anything more than 4-5 is an immediate red flag. 2-3 relationships aren’t a deal breaker. However, a woman that sleeps with another man the first night but would make me wait, isn’t the one for me and that I know. I’ve been on both sides of that coin.

>>509811589
>If you listen to his call in "help" vids, it's clear he just gets off on punching down.

Yes, he basically acts superior to everyone, that is why I am glad to see him struggle now.

>>509828242
>anyone who has a daughter has to be a feminist
you're dumb

>>509818694
It wasn't a logical comparison. Op listed character traits, and the anon responded with superficial and immutable characteristics that have nothing to do with morals or personal responsibility.

You're being a nigger

>>509827939
i agree with this take, having kids in a non-kiked society would likely be great. putting more kids into this kikery isn't going to fix shit though. as much as i love kids, i just couldn't do it, it's too much of a hassle today and particularly in sweden they are expected to go through 13 years of propaganda

>>509828228
it's funny you picked the one sentence that stood out the most to me as well. that sentence (re. sexual market value) is an absolute nigger tier take, and my experience is the same as yours: caring less about women makes me more content and willing to work hard towards healthy goals.

>>509824308
Explain why two percentages can't be compared, I'll wait.

>>509811402 (OP)
Does he still promote shitcoins?

>>509828920
Yeah. We are being enslaved. I'm pretty sure they brainwash us to care a lot about women, getting women, getting dates, being attractive, caring what women think, having sex etc etc. It used to be marry at a young age through arrangement, then it's a done deal, you spent 0.00001% of your life thinking about women, the rest thinking about other stuff. Now men spend 80% of their life just thinking about how to get a woman, how to get sex etc. It cripples them mentally, it makes them achieve nothing. This is by design. It's implanted. It's mind control. It's not inborn to be obsessed with women.

>>509811427
It sounds like a huge list, but most shit is just being normal... Grim if true.

>>509828228
doesn't molymeme know that caring about stuff makes one vulnerable?
>who cares more, loses

>>509811402 (OP)
>Just date and marry a unicorn bro lol this is not that difficult
This is some boomer tier bootstrap bullshit

>>509811427
>College degree
>not deep in debt

???

>>509813743
If you want to get confidence go do something that's hard for you and succeed anyways. It can be a workout a hike a difficult problem etc etc.
If you aren't super social just start taking to everyone, not just women. Ask the cashier how they are doing and actually listen to them.

>>509814082
>>509818314
>tradcucks have a melty when you have even the most basic, common sense standards for women
Like pottery

>>509828978
Because you miss 100% of the shots you never take and everyone on earth is alive because the odds of touching pussy aren't nearly as low as winning the lottery you dumb kike.

>>509829761
Pretty sure this is a Freemason hand sign. Wouldn't trust anything this guy says.

>>509828228
He’s just a retarded boomer who thinks it’s the 90s

>>509830488
>touching pussy
that's not the challenge, dude.... i think you sort of misunderstood marriage

>>509811402 (OP)
Hmmm looks like his dominant whore wife and his nigger fucking daughter spent his grift proceeds. reactivate the cult: Time for more bullshit

>>509830488
>you miss 100% of the shots you never take
Exactly, so you should buy a lot of lottery tickets. You don't want to miss out right?

>aren't nearly as low as winning the lottery
They're getting lower every year.

Don't forget about the HQ (Hymen Question)

>>509811402 (OP)
Congratulations, you now understand the real reason why some historical regimes became intensely hostile to "intellectuals".
>>509814783
>White men don't as much
Three words: male pattern baldness. It happens to an astounding 2/3 of white men by age 35. And in spite of all copes, a head without hair is the biggest lookskiller there is in womens eyes. There's studies. You lose 50% of your attractiveness without hair. And the world has now caught on to this. We may laugh at slants for being manlets, but they can't stop giggling at how most white men will become penis-heads in middle age. Ever seen a CCP meeting? Average age over 70, yet so few bald heads they stick out like sore thumbs. For us it's the opposite, the guys who still have their hair at that age are the odd ones. Once science beats this ridiculous accident of evolution, the dogshit balding gene, white men really will age so good they hardly lose attractiveness until 50 and foids over 30 will become invisible. But until then, MPB ensures every walled fattie will still have a horde of simps disfigured by eggheadedness.
>>509825436
This. The only guys i know who are nonchalant about marriage are dudeweed NEETs with nothing going for them, hence nothing to lose either. I don't have to tell you that it's exactly these types who are the most unattractive men imaginable to women.

>>509811402 (OP)
protip to any1 who wants a gf/wife
get the dumb one

>>509822668
There's a reason you don't find 100 dollar bills on the floor

>>509830781
I'm married. If you're not providing your wife with a steady supply of your semen then you're done marriage wrong.

>>509827135
>dehumanizing
elaborate?

>>509831313
Not even an order of magnitude as unlikely. Kill yourself tranny.

>>509827163
isn't it better to let the woman initiate?

>>509832573
is this supposed to be a bait? it doesn't even address what you said. forming a marriage isn't about "providing a steady supply of semen" unless you're an 80 iq nigger, at which point we shouldn't be communicating anyway

>>509811402 (OP)
I've been lifting weights since my teens for rugby and nothing is more cringe that a middle aged unathletic soi retard that gets into lifting for the first time and suddenly thinks it's the epitome of masculinity

>>509832690
no anon is unironically correct. women need to have their holes filled regularly. they crave this if the husband does not provide it she will not be happy just like if a wife did not provide her holes

>>509811402 (OP)
Here is on Scott Adams:

https://www.brighteon.com/92251da1-416b-4fa7-bfbc-387dcfde0b69

>>509832864
another reason to not have a wife

>>509832841
Yeah the truth is is that Stefan isn't the most masculine guy either not knocking him for it but he is definitely more feminine than most of the men where I come from.

>>509825265
Happiness is always there waiting for you in the background, knowledge or no knowledge.

>>509811402 (OP)
glad youtube banned this boomer faggot

>>509825265
>god
>god
Nigger detected.

>>509811402 (OP)
I find dude lift weights meme hilarious your grand and great grand parents wasn’t doing that shit and got women

>>509833095
>Regular sex is mandatory for a happy marriage so I would rather not
We all know you're a tranny. No need to remind us.

>>509811402 (OP)
Just one dollar!

Dollar, amount: 1 (one)

>>509811402 (OP)
I rather spend my money on myself than on a modern woman. Especially when I see how little Muslims have to invest in their women and what results they get for that I am completely disgusted by the thought of funding a Western woman's in comparison insane lifestyle. Muslims easily get a woman a decade younger and they have to do shit for it, here women act like you're a pedophile for wanting that.
Also yes he is right I never did approach, because I don't want to. The end result is not something I want even in case of success.

>>509811427
>College degree
no thanks
>If older than 25 she HAS to have had one boyfriend before, but never married. CANNOT have had more than 2 partners
i guess, she cant ever talk about it though
>No piercings of tattoos
ears are fine, no tattoos agree
>Reads Literature on the regular but not dark romance
>doesn't consume porn
im more concerned with ordering ridiculous toys off amazon

>>509814082
listing requirements that all women start out as by default is not the same thing as being .5% height retard

By having to do that I mean
- be a certain height (you don't really get anything extra if you are either, so I have nothing from it. I never had an advantage from being tall, except not being sorted out for lack of height)
- make more than average money (to spend it on her)
- be fit even (she won't be)
- complain if you go bald despite tons of women have hairlines that look like they are balding these days. Basically tons of white and black women have baldcel hairlines now, look around it's true, must be the pill or something
- be sociable, build a social circle only for it to side with her by default if the relationship goes up in smoke (even if it's her fault by her cheating or something)
- spend money on her all the time despite her having a job that makes about equal they foot all bills on the man
- having to cope with her body count
- her dumb relatives, likely libtards
- her forcing you to buy overpriced housing you barely can afford destroying your net worth when the bubble pops as you will pay for a house bought at peak market it likely never was and will be worth again to flex on aforementioned "friends"

Yeah write me up

>>509826045
>> don't know how to be decisive
>> don't know how to LEAD
>> total momma's boys
these are all related. women have authority and cut down men at every turn, even their own sons.
>> only social skills they have are from XBOX live
youve turned literally every other social space into a henpiecking feminine environment and complain when boys want to spend all their free time in a mosh pit
>> massive pussies
stop pissing whore pills into the water supply

In fact I go so far to say that i can't say that I have ever seen a man of my ethnicity having a relationship with a woman of my ethnicity that would make me say "I want that too".

This is why I am single and will never try changing that state, juice ain't worth the squeeze. Thanks for listening to my Chud talk.

>>509811402 (OP)
Stefan Molyneux never mention the jews and think holocaust was real.

A total idiot or a complete fraud