It’s hard to believe an all-controlling, all-loving creator would do this to innocent Christian children

Next time don't allow.

Fuck off, kike.
You're wringing your hands and celebrating every single white girl who died.

>>509853461
This is an awful tragedy, anon. Of course we’ll try to reason with the divine to figure out why it happened. But that’s difficult to explain in this case. It really does make one wonder if epicuro was correct

>>509853742
>It really does make one wonder if epicuro was correct
100%

>>509853312 (OP)
i will kill the anti-christ

>>509853312 (OP)
It's God's plan just like the Epstein island cover-up. Don't question it

>>509853312 (OP)
This is a slide thread
The thread I'm linking however is an interesting look at weather control, and it's connection to israel and palantir
>>509689054

>>509853312 (OP)
GOD HATES CATHOLICS

>>509853312 (OP)
Look, I hate christfags as much as the next guy, but using this to make a point is ghoulish.

>>509853312 (OP)
god made a New Covenant with all of Humanity. lion ted should know that if he were a real christian and not a snake trying to earn israeli bribes

>>509853312 (OP)
>all-controlling
Flip a coin

>>509853312 (OP)
there are many warnings of floods in the Bible. sending your kids to sleep on a floodplain is foolish.

>>509853312 (OP)
They probably brainwashed children to love jews at those camps, god was saving those children.

>>509855400
blessed are the peacemakers.

>>509853312 (OP)
kill yourself

>>509853312 (OP)
the fact shills seems so hung up on making people renounce faith and Christ (not just christianity) tells me everything i need to know about their play
total demon death

>>509853742

Atheists cannot for the life of them stop making appeals to emotion by proxy, basically affirming to anyone who can critically think that the reasons they are infact atheists are entirely emotional.

Basically
>got not reel becoz bad thing happen
Relativistically you don’t even get to call it bad faggot, that’s an opinion at this point.

>>509855719
Not just christians. Catholic to be exact. They hate the fact that they are no control of the Church.

>>509853312 (OP)
Its only tragic if you think this life is the only life

>>509853312 (OP)
kike

>>509853312 (OP)
God is real but he is not good. The jews are of their father the devil. Yahweh is their father.

YAHWEH IS THE DEVIL.

Read the nag hammadi codex. The church's intentions were not pure and just when they canonized the bible.

>>509855811
Every single word in the torah is plainly made up. The natural reaction to lies is emotion.
>oy vey god created us first and we're the chosen you're all goyim sons of cain and we were always oppressed and always heroes

>>509853312 (OP)
God has sent them to heaven to sexually service the jews and muslims.
Also they voted for this.

>>509855678
seething jew worshipper

>If I can't control it, it needs to be destroyed
Too be bad. Gate of hell shall not prevail. Keep crying.

>>509853312 (OP)
bad athiest arguments meant to appeal to the strawman idea of Christians they have ascribed to in order to make themselves feel better about sticking things in their ass.

>>509853312 (OP)
>Bad thing happen therefore no God
How profound

>>509853312 (OP)
it means catholics are not christian

>>509853312 (OP)
Are you retarded? God wants parents to stay close to their kids not send them off to rando non denomination camp with people you don't know in charge. Will they care for them as much as you?

Anyone who strays from God will be far for him. Parents who offload their kids to strange places can't keep an eye on them. These parents are rich too so they are also busy. This is part of the issue. Work for the golden idol calf. Leave God on the backburner as a second thought. That results in 0 protection. No one even prays the rosary anymore. Even less protection.

Free will is free will. Plenty of people claim to be Catholic and support abortion like it's drinking water. Only God can judge and in the coming die off there will be BILLIONS who die. Those here will be screaming at the top of their lungs for help but none will come.

I'm sure there were plenty of people claiming to follow God back before the flood wiped out all but a couple families with Noah. I wonder where YOU stand

>>509856106
Literally not what it says, you don’t believe it, because of this you were never going to give it the benefit of the doubt. It says what you want it to say because you don’t care if it’s actually true or not. You flat out let your enemy define it for you simply because you take their claims of being Jews at face value meanwhile the book flat out tells you these kikes have nothing in common with the people in the book, the difference being they believe. Vindicating the book because they predictable end up doing exactly what the book details.

>>509855905
>the church
>not in their control
try to tiptoe around it all you want, but demons and their puppets gave birth to the JWO the moment charlemagne was crowned
the vampiric kikes at venetia still rule the world

>>509856533
I rule the world. None else can stand above Me.

I am the chosen ONE.
I, alone, and no one else.

>>509856622
ok eglin
also show flag

>>509856622
Statistically speaking chosen Juan.

>>509856719
Those that stay in the shadow are nothing but 3rd rate at best.

>>509853312 (OP)
At least not the Abrahamic one. If anything, it is evidence that Mother Nature is a cold-hearted bitch that does as she pleases and the best way to not be in her path of destruction is to outsmart her.

>>509855400
Ted Cruz survived the flood so he must be onto something

>>509853312 (OP)
yahweh is a demon god that satiates it's blood lust with the death of young virgins. God is rewarding itself.

>>509853312 (OP)
Who said he was all-controlling and all-loving? A human who wants money? Why are you convinced God has a heavy hand in everything, everywhere?

>>509853312 (OP)
it confirms that republicans have been lead astray by false profits and God is trying to tell them with a great flood.

>>509853312 (OP)
They would have grown up to be roastie whores. God killed them to prevent this from happening.

>>509853312 (OP)
Every time a tragedy happens you fedora tippers jump up and down with glee while you spam the same "See? Bad thing happen so God not real!" bullshit every damn time. You truly are demon possessed.

A test of faith, /pol/ is full of failures

>>509857937
and you still wont admit its true.. this is basically our "what is a woman?" and you have no answer

>>509858176
Both sides are in denial.

>>509858461
>gawd nawht reel
>Let us goh bek tu teh bace n fuk ech’othur in de ayuss, pardner.

>>509856819
>Those that stay in the shadow are nothing but 3rd rate at best.
Which describes you perfectly

>>509853312 (OP)
why do atheists cream themselves everytime an innocent child dies?
>lmao why didn't G*d save those dead kiddos christcucks btfo
these is a special place in hell for nigger faggots like you

>>509853312 (OP)
>It’s hard to believe an all-controlling, all-loving creator would do this to innocent Christian children
Or maybe he already knew they would grow up to be roasties and he mercy killed them

>>509853312 (OP)
When the Guadalupe River floods the "Lone Star" State of Texas on the 4th of July, after the signing of TRUMP Inc.'s (((Big Beautiful Bill))), God is trying to tell us something.

The area hit is also known as "Flash Flood Alley" obviously good reasons, yet nobody was watching the river at night during a storm, including the camps responsible for the lives of hundreds of children. Why didn't they have night watchers?
>Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

And why do Texans still allow Ted Cruz and his ilk to treat their lives with such disdain?

I worked as a male nurse for a while. On a heavy unit for people who were bed ridden and mentally ill. The people were just confused, in pain and couldn't do shit. It seemed like hell on earth.

Every time someone asked if God exists I think of some very religious Christian woman who prayed for death every night. And she died in some silly way. She once had to go to the hospital for a checkup. And her leg got stuck in a bed fence. So she came back worse from the hospital than how she went there. And then she died from an infection to her leg.

>>509853742
It's actually kinda easy. YHVH is punishing America for allowing welfare to destroy the nation. We already sold our children to Hell. So what are we whining about here?
>Oh no! My daughter died! Now we can't watch the new globohomo Disneyslop and gaslight her into hating men and loving 3rd world savages.
>>509860250
Bingo. Western holes aren't worth any tears.
>>509860499
God has a sense of humor, your humor just hasn't been refined.

It confirms the USA is pissing off G-d by not invading Iran and risking the lives of the good Jewish people. Add on top of that the vile antisemitism coming from the left. The American people need to set aside their differences and protect the Holy Land or stop calling themselves Christans. It's really that simple. We all know what He did to Egypt for us, keep denying your purpose. I hope you are not attached to your firstborn.

>if god is real, bad things can't happen
>bad things happen
>therefore, god does not exist
atheism's most powerful argument

>>509853414
Wow is it made of shit?

>>509856474
I dunno man I think it's a bit callous to say "Them kids had it coming." Sure you're not just thinking because something did happen, that it SHOULD have happened?

>>509860990
Not an atheist but that's probably 12 or even more white kids that will never be born in the next 20 years because these girls died. Getting real hard to be an orthodox Christian retard these days desu

>>509860108
>why do atheists cream themselves everytime an innocent child dies?
Uh..I don't...

>>509860990
>>bad things happen
All according to the will of your God

>>509860990
the argument is that god does not love us

>>509860784
>celebrating the death of innocent toddlers because there are le black stormtroopers
maybe one day you will lose the weight and leave the basement, but that day is not today

>>509853312 (OP)
How is these girls dying a bad thing? They are in heaven now. God literally called them to him.

Christ is kang! Praise Allah. Long live jawhe

>>509860108
>G*d
you mean god?
Only yids don't type god.

>>509860784
>God has a sense of humor, your humor just hasn't been refined.
Clearly.

>>509861201
you're not promised a good comfortable life on this earth, you're promised suffering (Acts 14:22, 1 Peter 4:12-13, John 16:33)
>>509861386
>the argument is that god does not love us
i've never seen it framed that way, and the thousands of theodicies and defenses like plantinga's transworld depravity and notions like skeptical theism would work to shut that shit down too.
there's also the incarnation, God doesn't just watch or know our suffering, he lived a life and suffered it along with us.

>>509853312 (OP)
Why so sad when their children die? It's all in god's plan and they'll see them again in heaven.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>509853312 (OP)
God does NOT love protestants
While sad I'm still siding with the big guy on this one. And yes they're in hell for being literalists. Sorry I dont make up the rules the catholic church does

>>509861386
>maybe one day you will lose the weight and leave the basement, but that day is not today
Ad hominem: the last resort of a retard who has no argument.

>>509853312 (OP)
either that or it confirms that god is an evil god

An all loving powerful god allowing children to down makes no sense. Even freewill doesn't explain that away

free will is not in the bible btw. it's something christian theologians made up to explain away the problem of evil

>>509853312 (OP)
>Whites could die horribly like anyone else therefore God ain't real!
You're going to Hell.

>>509853742
Brutal paradox.

>>509853414
Do not allow what? None of these girls were mutts. Their parents weren't filthy racermixers.

>>509853742
Can anyone give a serious christian explanation to this?

>>509863112
You are dim. Native American maize spirits in anger over this monkey poo statue caused a massive downpour in disgust at this foreign abomination.

jesse lee peterson doesn't believe in the trinity and free will

i learned this a few weeks back.he's a non-trinitarian predestination christian i think. that makes him a heretic according to mainstream christianity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e5KPuDVglY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v7Ac9LYgxM

>>509863418
Arian-Calvinist

>>509859286
I can still called myself the number 1. Just a proof that this world has nothing but 3rd rate trash.

>>509863572
constantine was an arian christian supposedly. he was baptized by an arian christian later in his life

a lot of the early church fathers were heretics. tertullian and origen held heretic views
tertullian was a montanist

>>509853312 (OP)
No one is innocent here.

christians can explain the problem of evil away by saying that evil is actually good and it appears evil to the limited human intellect.
instead of using that stupid freewill bullshit that makes no sense

>>509862026
You don't believe any of this shit and dont have kids. You are 22 years old and a faggot.

>>509853312 (OP)
A gay parade does more damage to children.

>>509853312 (OP)
God took them to Heaven before they could sin (too much)
they have achieved salvation, so be happy

>>509863257
>>509863095
>brutal
it's not, for a few reasons,
1: epicurus never said this and never would have. it's completely against his teachings since he believed in and taught about gods that didn't give a shit about human affairs. putting his gay little marble bust in the picture to lend it more credibility is funny.
the reason this trilemma gets attributed to epicurus is because of a Christian writer named lactantius strawmanned epicurus before dismantling the argument in the next few sentences. then, ~1500 years later, hume finds this paragraph and thinks it's amazing, so he plagiarizes it, keeping the false attribution but not bothering to point out lactantius' dismantling of it.
2: as pointed out above, in the sentences immediately following the creation of this false trilemma, it was destroyed.
3: there are eleventy billion valid and sound theodicies and defenses for the problem of evil, so it's not like Christians don't have an answer for it, we actually have too many.

>>509864475
does heaven exist now or is something that exists in the future after jesus returns and resurrects people?
some christians speak as heaven exists now
the bible implies it's a future place and it currently doesn't exist
it will exist after jesus returns and resurrects the dead

>>509864638
or is it something*
some christians speak as if heaven exists now*

brain damage fuck

>>509864638
it's all illogical and disjointed, don't try to find rhyme or reason in it
if you follow it to the logical conclusion, you will end up celebrating the death of children because they're with God now

>>509853312 (OP)
So will the fathers kill Rainmaker?

>>509853312 (OP)
>Does this confirm that God is not real?

consider for a moment he was real, that would imply eternity is real and perhaps an afterlife, so whats the issue? the book of job addressed the "problem of evil" thousands of years ago, god is sovereign

>>509853312 (OP)
It's hard believing atheists try to argue for morality outside of god, when they're happily gloating about a bunch of little girls dying.

>>509853312 (OP)
it's literally the kikes fault
this wouldn't have happened if the money to prevent flash flood didn't went to israel and gibs for shitskins

>>509853312 (OP)
It suggests that God made a bet against the devil that he will not partake in this to hopefully allow mankind to prove themselves as worthy enough for the devil to kneel willingly

>>509864910
when did atheists say or do that? you know lying is a sin right?
christians think it's a virtue to lie about non-believers
they'll strawman the views of atheists, pagans and satanists

>>509853312 (OP)
White woman status: DELETED!

>>509864638
when we die, we immediately go into the presence of God (2 Cor 5:8, Luke 23:43)
heaven is real and active now, but it's not the final destination.
after the resurrection of the dead and final judgment, God will create the new haven and new earth (Rev 21:1-4) where we'll have physical glorified bodies like the resurrected Christ had, which can eat, touch, be touched, etc.

>>509853312 (OP)
they aren't going to rebuild the camp in the same spot are they? that would be retarded

>>509865126
see >>509862107

God let humans keep their knowledge and if they were stubborn and built in irresponsible places them it is on them. Dallas, Austin and Waco are also sinful wicked places that probably try to keep Him out.

>>509865293
he's laugh at the logic of christians and not at children dying

>>509865393
do you agree with him?
you think it's illogical for people to be sad that their children die in agony since they're going to see them in heaven again anyway several decades from now?

>>509865252
i think there are some christians sects who believe heaven doesn't currently exist.
they believe it's a future state or place after jesus returns
i remember hearing a christian who didn't believe heaven is a place that currently exists.is that a heretical belief?

>>509853312 (OP)
Depends, were they the children of zionists or elites?

it's why christians didn't believe in cremation because they thought it would prevent jesus from resurrecting people

>>509853312 (OP)
It confirms that God would rather tongue nigger than help anybody, not just his christgolems.

>texas spends millions of dollars in aid for israel
>refuses to spend any money on early warning systems
>people die but it's ok cause muh kikes need money

>>509864586
So basically there must be evil in order to exist good? I'm satisfied. Good answer

>>509853312 (OP)
St augustine: if you see a drowning child, do not save him, don't mess with god's plan.

>>509865704
>there are some christians sects who believe heaven doesn't currently exist.
i think you're thinking of the notion of "soul sleep" that seventh day adventists hold to, that we just nap and wake up when it's judgment day.
i think it's pretty weak and an extreme minority position, and heaven still exists as God's dwelling place in that view, just not as a place we'd hang out in before the new earth is established.

again though, every mainstream denomination (including SDA) believes there's going to be a new earth where we live physically after judgment day, and sometimes this place is referred to as "heaven" even though it has nothing to do with a sky.

>>509865891

>>509853312 (OP)
Well, now that you have voiced your opinion that,
>God bad!
for
>reasons,
perhaps you will take a moment to consider that YOU are living in HIS world.

>>509853312 (OP)
Life can be cruel and believing in God doesn't guarantee and untimely demise.....

The only regret a you psycopath perverts have is that you didn't go through those cunnies before they died.

See, I know what motivates your "bleeding hearts".

God put strife into the world because strife is based and suffering is the root of all greatness. The idea the world was perfect under YHWH and Lucifer corrupted it to be hard is cope written by kikes who had never experienced the degeneracy of utopia and easy living. The based god made life a struggle because he does not suffer the pussy. He demands your best and will beat the shit out of you to keep you tough and ready. Sometimes, for teh lulz, he flings shit at you that you don't have a chance against deflecting, just to keep us on our toes. That is what a good god and a good father does. The god of Christianity is a schizo torn between agreeing with my basic argument and also enabling faggot shit that makes life too easy. Christcucks will parrot these schizophrenic morals, make life so easy for christcucks that half of them turn into fudgepacking cenobite atheists, and then complain they don't know why it happened. Bruh, if all the animals didn't need to eat each other, then why did god give them teeth? Good is not the default and good times must be fought for, maintained by the sword. Everyone who promises hugging and kumbaya is the entropic Satan.

>>509853312 (OP)
The "god" of the Bible kills people for teh lulz all the time. He even punishes those who serve him loyally, like he did with Job.
You bring curses upon yourself by worshipping that jewish demon.

>god is all loving
>read the old testament
>yahweh is a genocidal prick

it's no wonder gnostics existed

>>509855719
>letting superstitions dictate national policy and drive political discourse makes so many people mad
>that's probably because they're demons
You are so fucking stupid.

>>509860499
You should see how Christ died, they put him on a cross and then later stabbed him

>>509853312 (OP)
>Deer god,
Why did you let me drownded? I was really, really nice all of the tyme and I praid to Jesus every day. You didn't safe me, but I did hold onto a tree before my arms got tyred. If I had nown I wood have drownded I would have praid to the tree first to safe me. Maybe then I wood be alive and see my family again too!! But alas, I am now drownded. Tell MOmmy and dady i lovee them very very very much and that i am waiting for them , its is a very dark and very cold, i feel very alone, jesus didint safe me and my body is flowting down their.
>Kisses,
>Mary

man i used to be a bible reading christian but then when i heard about people dying in a flood i was like what!? god would never let people die in a flood, now im a faggot, thanks OP

i don't think i could ever become a mainstream christian.
there is no way i could believe the old testament god is the same as the new testament

you have to shut your brain off to think they are the same god

>>509867851
you have literally never read the book and are a brown kike the same color as my poop

>>509867592
>superstitions
you naturalists have no grounding for moral oughts.
helping an old lady cross the street or raping her are morally equal under naturalism.
our "superstitions" that tell us rape and murder are wrong are at least logically coherent and internally consistent, unlike your "we're all just clumps of cells [magical leap] humans have a right to free healthcare!"

>>509853312 (OP)
>collects an overwhelming amount of taxes
>builds an enormous centralized government
oy vey! the free market is killing the planet! if only we had more government and taxes then we could of made it rain better!
>collects more taxes, creates more laws, grows government
>does geoengineering
>blames God and global warming for consequences.
oy vey! if only we had more government and taxes then we could of made it rain better!
oy vey! look at how bad everything has gotten, must be because your god isn't real.

>>509867762
i became an atheist after reading about mythologies around the world
it made me assume that christianity is false just like greek mythology and egyptian mythologyu

there is no reason to assume christianity is true as there is no reason to assume greek mythology is true

>>509853312 (OP)
the christian's god is literally a dead son

we actually don't know to the degree of how much tragedy is caused by sin (or not doing what is right). for example, much of the deaths in hurricane katrina was due to greed.

>>509867932
and then people like you are allowed to vote
no wonder everything goes to shit

Some people will never understand

>>509867851
there's tons of showcases of The Father's love/mercy in the OT and The Son's wrath/judgment in the NT.
>>509868024
1: not an argument (not that what i said can be argued against)
2: i'd never vote in poland

>>509867999
>i became an atheist after reading about mythologies around the world

but not the king james bible. look if you are a genuine anon, not a kike, read the twin seeds of genesis by charles lee mange its online free and is a short half hour read


i dont blame people for not immediatley accepting jesus because the modern conception of him is often times nonsensical read the twin seeds of genesis if you like it get a KING JAMES BIBLE, all other english translations are blatant censorship attempts

>>509868009
>the christian's god is literally a dead son

he rose three days later you kike retard these are the basics of the narrative

>>509853742
Evil does not exist, because evil is an absence, evil is the absence of God.

>>509867932
Ethics don't require superstition, like the idea of serving family and community can be self serving in that you want stability and security to be there for you if you need it. Golden rule isn't a spiritual product, it's common sense to ensure there is a civilization. You can participate without being a rapist without a god and with a god you can still be a rapist misanthrope.

>>509867851
The Old Testament is Jewish. There's more to Jews than the Old Testament which many people seem to not realize. There's Old Testament alone gives insight to why Jews are so fucked. Christians who think Jews are similar to them are ignorant.

god never said you would never die in a flood if you hang out in a flood plain

>>509868273
>The Old Testament is Jewish. There's more to Jews than the Old Testament which many people seem to not realize. There's Old Testament alone gives insight to why Jews are so fucked


how would you know retard you never read it


39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

>>509853312 (OP)
You just know whoever is making those engagement-farming twitter posts is making money off of X Premium Blue Checkmarked Deluxe Verified whatever it's called

>>509868182
>Ethics don't require superstition
they require an ontic referent to be real, objective and meaningful, something that can't exist under naturalism.
>"If you’re going to be a moral realist, you’ve got to have some basis for saying what is good and what is evil. And I’ll grant you, it’s very hard to get one without something like a religious framework." (Sam Harris, The End of Faith, 2004)
>"Atheism leaves us with a void where meaning ought to be. We have to create our own purpose, and that can feel like a poor substitute for the grand narratives of religion." (Julian Baggini, Atheism: A Very Short Introduction, 2003)
>"When one gives up the Christian faith, one pulls the right to Christian morality out from under one’s feet. This morality is by no means self-evident… Christianity is a system, a whole view of things thought out together. By breaking one main concept out of it, the faith in God, one breaks the whole."
(Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols, 1889)

there is literally nothing wrong with eating your neighbor instead of loving them under naturalism.

>>509853312 (OP)
Why are atheist so stupid bros?

>>509867902
i have read it but i probably forgot like 80 percent of it because the human mind is not perfect.
i am not a religious fag so i have no reason to memorize the book as a religious people does

a lot of religious people are retards who know nothing about their own religion.
a lot of christians are just christian in name only. they are christian because their parents were christian.

>>509853312 (OP)
>if God real, why bad thing happen?

Who let you out of the retard chamber?

>>509864586
Saying that good cannot exist without evil doesn't address the problem of evil. If God is omnibenevolent as Christians say, then his goodness necessitates and creates evil, which is to say it's not really goodness at all
>if the baby wasn't raped then we wouldn't understand goodness
Lame excuse

>>509863112
Damn, how fucking retarded are you?
Has european education on theology really fallen so low? You're all a bunch of brainwashed communists.

>>509853312 (OP)
metempsychosis
Some lives are to purify the karma of previous lives (and that of their family).
The soul is reincarnated in a new body and continues its spiritual journey

>>509865543
>you think it's illogical for people to be sad that their children die in agony since they're going to see them in heaven again anyway several decades from now?
I think it's terrible that the children are dead, I think it's hilarious that the adults are complaining about it when their beliefs disagree entirely with that idea.
Fuck you christfaggot.

>>509868658
>i have read it but i probably forgot like 80 percent of it because the human mind is not perfect.
>i am not a religious fag so i have no reason to memorize the book as a religious


you are straight lying

>>509868509
There doesn't need to be anything right or wrong, justice can just be a way of protecting people. The right or wrong you're referring to is a moot interpretation and different faiths have different standards. Faith and religion aren't a prerequisite, they are ultimately an accessory and a tool.

>>509853312 (OP)
It proves that protestant "christianity" is not real

>>509867902
>you have literally never read the book
>>509868658
>i have read it but i probably forgot like 80 percent of it because the human mind is not perfect.
>>509867851
>i don't think i could ever become a mainstream christian.
>there is no way i could believe the old testament god is the same as the new testament
>
>you have to shut your brain off to think they are the same god

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

>>509868735
You can't judge theology or Christianity on dumb redneck evangelicals.

God does this shit all the time in the bible.
Nothing in the bible says that god won't wash your ass away if you camp near a river downstream from a massive rainstorm.

>>509868172
>he rose three days later you kike retard these are the basics of the narrative

No shit, sherlock
I'm saying that the Christian story is about the loss of a son, so it provides comfort of those who lose their children too

>>509868880
They were catholics though?

>>509853312 (OP)
Were they actually real Christians or some of those "Christian Zionists" so common in America?

>>509868946
isn't the trinity based on john a gospel that was written much later?

the other gospels don't speak of jesus and god being the same

>>509868735
if this is something you're legitimately curious about logically instead of emotionally, check out plantinga's "transworld depravity" in his dialogues with the proto-dawkins JL mackie.
the logical formulation of the problem is evil is dead, finished, kaput.
every atheist scholar admits this, and instead goes for weird angles like the "evidentiary problem of gratuitous animal suffering" that i can't give a shit about.
>>509868802
>I think it's hilarious that the adults are complaining about it when their beliefs disagree entirely with that idea.
you might be a sociopath.
let me frame it like this.
you're a little kid and your parents tell you that your doggy is going to go live on a farm with other animals and be very happy, you have no reason to doubt them, they tell you that you'll be able to visit him in a few years.
would you be sad?
(the answer is going to be "yes" unless you are just being contrarian for contrarianism's sake. notice though that you were able to empathize more with the child losing his dog than the Christians losing their child and ruminate on the implications of that)
>>509868873
>There doesn't need to be anything right or wrong, justice can just be a way of protecting people.
is protecting people "right?"

>>509869050
33 isn't exactly a child but ok.

>>509853312 (OP)
>I have the right to operate a children's summer camp on a floodplain for profit incentives and no government regulation should stop me
Get ready to enjoy the era of small government.

>>509869050
>No shit, sherlock
>I'm saying that the Christian story is about the loss of a son,

thats a very interesting take about a book you didnt fucking read. no son was lost by anyone, he rose from the dead three days later who lost a son? and marys importance in the bible is basically none after she births jesus that is an extrabiblical beige catholic thing jesus directly rebukes in the scripture


31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

muh christfag god is a skykike who kills countless children all the way through the bible, then gets reborn as one on earth so he can feel what it's like to have your step-dad mutilate your baby dick with his teeth

>>509863257
It's a really retarded "paradox" when you realize God himself explained it in his own book, basically only works on retards who havent read the bible, are incapable of abstract thought and are too stubborn and prideful to stop and think for a minute that yes something so easily thought up hasnt dismantled all religions for a reason. No theyre sure theyre some super genius smarter than every religious person to have ever existed because they cant wrap their mind around God being able to do whatever he wants and break logic.

13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

>Durrr if God first, how he also last? Make no logic! Me grug smart, smarter than God! Checkmate religion!
This is literally what their argument boils down to, somehow confusing their flawed and limited definition of good for the ultimate "good" as if they understand anything beyond our temporary existence.

>Cant even provide an ultimate definition of good or evil
>Accuse God of violating these definitions anyways
>We know what is good and evil better than God when humans cant even agree what it is long enough to not kill each other in 2025

Just know the retards who post that paradox literally are incapable of thinking outside of themselves and considering the fact that their definition of good and bad isnt universal, hell it changes with even the time and place, "epicurus" certainly wouldnt have the same definition of good as these retards who think they know what "good" is.

Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:

2
“Who is this that obscures my plans
with words without knowledge?
3
Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

4
“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.

It's honestly sad how many people actually fall for it

>>509869167
if you read the bible it is abundantly clear they are the same they speak in the same voice there is no break in continuity, people only think that because they seperate jesus when hes talking to the kikes from jesus when hes ministering to the poor and the sick and the hungry, they are both the same jesus and both are god the father OBVIOUSLY


But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. T. Jesus Christ Luke 19:27

>>509869222
>marys importance in the bible is basically none after she births jesus
She's literally there at the crucifixion you dullard.

>>509853312 (OP)
Gnosticism is truth

>>509869366
and jesus passes her off to be someone elses mother

26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home


she is not very important to the narrative beyond the point she births jesus

>worship a desert demon that demands a sacrifice of baby foreskins
>why didn't this demon save us

>>509869171
>you might be a sociopath.
>let me frame it like this.
>you're a little kid and your parents tell you that your doggy is going to go live on a farm with other animals and be very happy, you have no reason to doubt them, they tell you that you'll be able to visit him in a few years.
>would you be sad?
>(the answer is going to be "yes" unless you are just being contrarian for contrarianism's sake. notice though that you were able to empathize more with the child losing his dog than the Christians losing their child and ruminate on the implications of that)
Not really no, you live in the reality you have, not the one you make up in your head.
I think it's hilarious because if their faith was real and not a hugely pathetic cope they would have get this FAITH.
So again kindly fuck off christfaggot.

>>509853312 (OP)
Christians love jews more than their own children.

>>509869424
>Gnosticism is truth

its satanic inversion and first century jewish cope


jesus told the kikes they were mixed race offspring of the serpent in the garden, IE satan, that is what you BROOD of vipers literally means and he said it to them a million different ways and its explicitly recorded as being the main reason they wanted to kill him not the "blasphemy" they accused him of. the kikes went our dad is the devil? nu uh GOD THE FATHER IS THE DEVIL and the serpent in the garden is actually sophia/jesus. if you are smart enough to actually parse the densely written gnostic scriptures they are plainly ludicrous

>>509869434
>and jesus passes her off to be someone elses mother
So that she wouldn't be raped and murdered by kikes

>>509869346
"god why have you forsaken me?"

why did jesus say this on the cross if he's the same as god?
it implies that they are two separate entities

jesus prays to god as if he's different from god. why would jesus pray to himself if he and his father are one and the same entity?

the trinity is believed in by retards

>>509853312 (OP)
>ima dumbass
God will kill children,
so their souls won't be corrupted
by the terrible people around them.
Wisdom 4:10-15 "There was one who pleased God
and was loved by him
and while living among sinners was taken up.
He was caught up so that evil might not change his understanding
or guile deceive his soul.
For the fascination of wickedness
obscures what is good,
and roving desire perverts the innocent mind.
Being perfected in a short time,
he fulfilled long years,
for his soul was pleasing to the Lord;
therefore he hastened him from the midst of wickedness.
Yet the peoples saw and did not understand
or take such a thing to heart,
that God’s grace and mercy are with his elect
and that he watches over his holy ones."
He took those children
so the Beast "Christians"
wouldn't corrupt their minds
with their wicked doctrines.

>>509869345
It's literally just one step up from the have you had breakfast question, just a wordtrap for people who dont have the self reflection to pause for a moment and think "wait a minute, what is good, and who defines it? Do I? For everyone?" They just hear the word "good" and assume their own flawed impression of it is what everybody else believes too

>But I know what is good
>Yes but iLIm asking you how you know what is and isnt good and for everything everywhere all at once
>But I know!

Clever trick from their own pride

>>509869576
the point is you are saying the new testament is the story of someone losing a son, that is not what the scripture says however not even close, her importance and even PRESENCE in the biblical narrative is greatly exaggerated by the catholic churches idol worship of mary its not in the scripture you ought to read it

>>509869533
>you live in the reality you have, not the one you make up in your head.
i can't glean what it is you're trying to communicate to me.
you seem very upset though so it's probably not worth trying to wring it out of you.

>>509869656
I said no such thing, retard. Check post IDs next time.

>>509869619
>"god why have you forsaken me?"
>
>why did jesus say this on the cross if he's the same as god?
>it implies that they are two separate entities

no it doesnt hes directly quoting a psalm so that we know hes fulfilling a prophesy from the psalm

22 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

>>509853312 (OP)
God isn't real. But the NWS was... until Trump decided to defund it to give himself and his billionaire buddies a tax break.

>>509869619
i will add that i dont believe in the catholic concept of the trinity but god jesus and the holy spirit are the same, they are not three however that is limiting god, he is one

>>509869346
The new testament is a mess.
Trying to pry anything from it is dubious.
Jesus serves his purpose and makes an argument for being the "messiah". You can make of that what you will. Seeing in him the trinity or even a unity is just a belief thats been extrapolated from the text. Not theres any less amount of other beliefs that have been tacked onto various Christian doctrine. Its like arguing over the talmud.

>>509869171
Protecting people doesn't need to be right, it creates a stable environment that benefits you. You could feel good or bad or nothing about it.

>>509853312 (OP)
If you want to talk about this as a hypothetical some time, I'm game. Until then shove your false sincerity up your ass.

>>509869812
>ou can make of that what you will. Seeing in him the trinity or even a unity is just a belief thats been extrapolated from the text.


you are just dumb i dont know what to tell ya man
>>509868946
>30 I and my Father are one.
>
>31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
>
>32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
>
>33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
>
>58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
>
>8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
>
>9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

Gods(Elohim/Anunnaki simply created people and watches the process. Gods(Elohim/Anunnaki ) interfered very much in people's lives before the flood and a little after, the last time it was Jesus. After the flood, people were given knowledge again (limited) and helped to rebuild cities and that's it, interfering in people's lives is forbidden

>>509869619
We repeat this so often here but Ill pretend you actually dont know and couldnt be assed to google it when the ai bots themselves can even tell u now.

They didnt carry around little books or pocket computers back then, they would quote memorized passages to each other to call back to specific parts of the OT. Jesus quoted the beginning of psalm 22 and all the religious listeners there would know what he's talking about and why he was pointing to that specific prophecy. It's like starting the first lines of a famous song that everybody else knows the lyrics to.
>SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME
You immediately knew what I was hinting at and at least the general impression of the rest of the song, isnt hard especially for people back then without our endless media and distractions and the only book theyd all have common frequent access to is OT.

Just go read psalm 22 and youll see why even as he was dying he was proving to them who he was, here is the end of it

All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the Lord,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,
28
for dominion belongs to the Lord
and he rules over the nations.

29
All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him—
those who cannot keep themselves alive.
30
Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.
31
They will proclaim his righteousness,
declaring to a people yet unborn:
He has done it!

And here we are 2000 years later prophecy clearly fulfilled.

>Yes the ends of the earth even includes this mongolian basket weaving forum

25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. 26 Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.

>>509869682
>i can't glean what it is you're trying to communicate to me.
>you seem very upset though so it's probably not worth trying to wring it out of you.
Trying to determine whether or not someone is a sociopath over the internet is like trying to piss into the wind, the only thing you're going to get out of it is piss.

>>509853312 (OP)
floods exist, children exist, God didn't necessarily intend for them to collide

>>509869837
>Protecting people doesn't need to be right
i agree, that's my point.
under a godless materialistic worldview, butt-raping someone or protecting them are morally equivalent, since morals can't be real.
>it creates a stable environment that benefits you.
and what about when it doesn't?
if consequences dictate a course of action then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught.

>>509869171
>the logical formulation of the problem is evil is dead
Yes, God is the source of both good and evil

>if this is something you're legitimately curious about logically instead of emotionally, check out plantinga's "transworld depravity" in his dialogues with the proto-dawkins JL mackie
I couldn't possibly care less about the words of any other man not currently involved in this conversation. If your logic cannot stand on its own feet here and now then it's worthless. Do not refer me to the words of another man

>>509869902
Why do need the trinity then?

Jesus himself, by the way, says to pray only to the Father and does not mention himself and the Holy Spirit in prayer, as well as his mother, angels, etc.

>>509870187
>Yes, God is the source of both good and evil
i disagree.
>what about Isaiah 45:7?
it's saying that God is ultimately sovereign over his world, including mankind and nations. in accordance with His sovereign will, He can cause wars to cease and peace to predominate (as He was about to do for his exiled people through cyrus), or He can bring disaster and judgment on nations (as he was about to do to babylon through cyrus).
it's not saying God is the author of evil.

>>509870423
>says to pray only to the Father

he revealed he WAS the father


i dont believe the catholic concept of the trinity but jesus says hes the father over and over again and if you read the old testament and are of his flock youd instantly recognize the voice jesus spoke in to be the same as god the father it is literally and obviously the same person, unless you are a mongrel who takes after your black father the devil in which case this is lost on you and that is BY DESIGN

>>509870423
the trinity is how you reconcile all these factoids.

>>509870548
>>509870423
i want to throw out there if you have not read the king james bible cover to cover do not be dismayed because your IDEA of god the father and your IDEA of Jesus seem diametrically opposed that doesnt necessarily mean you are not of his flock, the bible has been misrepresented for over a thousand years read it yourself

>>509853312 (OP)
If God saved one person then he would morally have to save everyone in the world which is unrealistic. How does no one understand this when it’s so simple?

>>509870570
its autistic legalism the same as the pharisees were doing in their early oral talmud. the nature of god is not entirely gonna be understood by man that is good enough, catholics autistically pill pulled over the mysteries while practicing blatant idolatry missing the forest for the trees and pil pulling why they could not follow the basics EXACTLY as the kike pharisees were doing

>>509870509
>it's not saying God is the author of evil.
The omniscient Creator knew each and every sin that would ever occur before he created the world. He could have prevented any of them with the barest portion of his will and yet he chose not to. He knew this current world, with all of the rape, murder, torture and genocide that would occur and he knowingly and willingly created it as-is anyways

If a man breeds pitbulls that bite people the law of man would hold him guilty

The omniscient Lord created a world, knowingly and willingly, full of evil. He is directly responsible for all of it

>>509870509
Babylon wasn’t evil or an immoral culture. You are regurgitating the national resentment of Jews toward Babylon which they hated and cast as needing to be destroyed by God because the Babylonians defeated the Jews.

>>509870548
>The Son is The Father
heresy.
what do you do with verses in the OT that showcase the 2 powers in heaven motif like daniel 7:9-14, exodus 23:20-23, genesis 19:24, exodus 15:3 and isaiah 6:1-5?

>>509861183
I'm just saying people are quick to blame God for everything bad and ignore him completely when good things happen.

I'm sure there are gonna be tons of atheists and non Catholics blaming God for everything when the mass die off escalates. It's why they will be eager to take the mark. If you pray the rosary and are truly trying to stick near our father, he will protect. If you have abortions, cheat, lie, are full of pure hatred, watch porn don't confess and have tons of sex outside of marriage, why be surprised when you call yourself a child of God when you are anything but and get no help.

You don't dump your kids at a non denomination camp and expect them to be taken care of

>>509870940
he is the father whats heresy is worshipping jesus mother mary calling her the "queen of heaven" you are worshipping isthar/ashura the queen of heaven pretending to be "Christian"


there is a reason catholics are primarily beige christ is lost on you idolators

>>509869628
Yeah really sad to see the synagogue of satan has deceived so many these days, all the "bless israel" shit is so cringe.

Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.

This is why Jesus warned to beware wolves in sheeps clothing, certainly now we have "lambs" deceiving many to worship the synagogue of satan, which was dealt a killing blow and scattered to the wind almost 2000 years ago but now "miraculously" formed into a nation again.

>>509871030
>isthar
ishtar*

>>509853312 (OP)
White christian children drying? Yes, unless someone can show that there was a rainbow flag somewhere in the camp.

Or we can go scientific and blame democrat-weather machines.

>>509853312 (OP)
Heaven is better than this shit hole.

>all-controlling
You jeets don't understand anything.

>>509853312 (OP)
Why didn't Jesus save them?

>>509870826
God's foreknowledge of evil doesn't make Him its author, just as a parent's foreknowledge of their child's rebellion doesn't make them the cause of it. scripture affirms God permits evil (Acts 14:16), restrains it (2 Thess 2:7) and ultimately redeems it (Genesis 50:20) but He never commits it (James 1:13)
your analogy fails because a pitbull's nature is fixed by its creator (the breeder) but mankind's corruption came by our choice (Genesis 3, Romans 5:12). God created a good world with free creatures, evil arose from the misuse of that freedom. sovereignty isn't micromanagement, he governs all things without being the proximate cause of sin.
the question shouldn't be "why did God allow evil," but "why did God allow redemption despite it?" the cross proves He hates evil enough to suffer it Himself to defeat it.
>>509871030
i'm baptist, how dare you accuse me of being a papist.
you are a heretic and ball-less for not attempting to answer my question.

christians think this is normal lmao

>>509870181
>under a godless materialistic worldview, butt-raping someone or protecting them are morally equivalent, since morals can't be real.
I've always found this idea adolescent and more postmodern than the postmodernists it implicitly critiques. Want to know a real, universal basis for morality? Pain and pleasure. It is very easy to declare a sufficiently "real" system of morality with two basic statements:
>causing pain is usually bad but sometimes necessary
>causing pleasure is usually good but sometimes harmful
If "sometimes" makes you throw up your hands and reach in exasperation for your Bible, I'm sorry, but you're not a serious person. When you're ready to live in the real world -- where real moral questions have to be evaluated in real terms -- instead of living by your fantasy book, you'll have made it.

>>509871422
>you are a heretic and ball-less for not attempting to answer my question.

i didnt even read it hold on>>509870940
>what do you do with verses in the OT that showcase the 2 powers in heaven motif like daniel 7:9-14, exodus 23:20-23, genesis 19:24, exodus 15:3 and isaiah 6:1-5?

yeah im not gonna answer your question post the relevant verses from the king james as i do literally every single time i reference scripture and have done numerous times in the thread so that the lurkers can follow along you lazy shit


jesus plainly states "the father and i are one" and many more affirmations that he is the father ive already posted >>509869902
>>30 I and my Father are one.
>>
>>31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
>>
>>32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
>>
>>33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
>>
>>58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
>>
>>8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
>>
>>9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

>>509853312 (OP)
hello bb I will buy you ipad come bangladesh. Do you like big chicken? I love u. xox

>>509853312 (OP)
>Does this confirm that God is not real?
No, but it does confirm that the Satans are real.

>>509853312 (OP)
>It’s hard to believe an all-controlling-

Wrong idea right off the bat, God is sovereign but He is not a puppet master making things happen. The universe is governed by laws that dictate how things behave, these laws were once perfect and didn't allow for anything negative to happen but mankind, the pinnacle of God's creation, turned from God and in doing so introduced imperfection into God's perfect creation and now the world, that God created, brings forth suffering, death and imperfection because it has been spoiled by mankind's sin.

Sin is turning away from God, by turning away from the perfect creator we embrace imperfection and all of the terrible possibilities that come with imperfection.

>>509871422
>God's foreknowledge of evil doesn't make Him its author
God is not a mere observer, he is the Creator, the Prime Mover. He set into motion all events that will ever occur

Parents are responsible for their children, breeders are responsible for their animals, restaurants are responsible for their food, etc. despite them all being fallible mortals- yet you hold a literally omniscient being somehow less responsible for his creation than all of these above examples

>God created a good world with free creatures, evil arose from the misuse of that freedom
How could a perfect and good God create an imperfect, broken humanity that fell from goodness? Why couldn't God just have made man perfect instead?

>the cross proves He hates evil enough to suffer it Himself to defeat it
If he truly hated evil he could have simply made a world without it to begin with

Jesus did not actually come back from the dead are you are really fucking stupid if you think he did

>>509853312 (OP)
Gaia is the closest thing we have to God.
Pantheism is the next step, and infaliable.

Everything else is a larp and a power grab.

>>509853312 (OP)
bottom right picture is hot
she really loves her daddy

just remember: all these girls would be safe if they'd been home taking care of their husbands, but the jews want America to fail

Their mothers should have been teaching them to submit to their husband and to pleasure them every night.

>>509869495
You see, this little girl was taught how to get on her knees.

>>509871364
Who's to say He didn't, Muhammad? Salvation happens in the heart, it is not visible to us, the results of salvation are visible but salvation itself is not.

This body is riddled with sin and is condemned to die but our souls can be saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God.

Children who die before they are able to understand sin are pure, they cannot be held accountable and are blameless before God.

>>509871935
>Jesus did not actually come back from the dead are you are really fucking stupid if you think he did


9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.

11 Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.

12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,

13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.

14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.

15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

>>509871971
>Gaia is the closest thing we have to God.
>Pantheism is the next step, and infaliable.
>
>Everything else is a larp and a power grab.


you larp as a pagan while power grabbing your boyfriends nuts faggot

christcuck / abrahamic death cult worshippers are retarded, they should be rejoicing that they are in heaven with jewsus now - god willed it

>>509872271
you are the color of my poop

>>509871933
>He set into motion all events that will ever occur

Not true, you are putting God in the place of every person who has ever done anything good or evil, you are making Him out to be a puppet master pulling everyone's strings but the bible is clear that everyone is accountable to God.

God provides the potential for us to exist and live how we want but He doesn't reach down and make us choose what to do, we choose what we do.

>>509853312 (OP)
It could be argued he was saving them from getting abducted by the pedophile elites that America is apparently rife with
t.non-believer

>>509871499
>I've always found this idea adolescent and more postmodern than the postmodernists it implicitly critiques
that's funny.
internet atheists bandy this fake marcus aurelius quote about:
>"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." (Marcus Aurelius, /r/atheism 2012)
which basically expresses your view, that we ought to just live virtuously despite there being no meaning to it.

the real one it's almost paraphrasing from his meditations is this:
>"In all you do or say or think, recollect that at any time the power of withdrawal from life is in your own hands. If gods exist, you have nothing to fear in taking leave of mankind, for they will not let you come to harm. But if there are no gods, or if they have no concern with mortal affairs, what is life to me, in a world devoid of gods or devoid of Providence? Gods, however, do exist..." (Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 2.11, ~170 AD)
let me put it in all caps:
>WHAT IS LIFE, DEVOID OF GODS OR DEVOID OF PROVIDENCE? RECOLLECT THAT AT ANY TIME THE POWER OF WITHDRAWAL FROM LIFE IS IN YOUR OWN HANDS.
basically, he's saying if atheism is true you should end yourself because life is meaningless, but luckily they they do.

epictetus, argued that without divine reason, terms like "good" and "evil" lose objective meaning (Discourses 1.12)

without the Logos (Christ in Christianity), the virtues the stoics attempt to follow are worthless.

>>509871364
God corresponds to self-righteous metaphorical substrate.

>>509872315
>you are the color of my poop
funny you mention, thats the color of those in heaven - enjoy your niggers

>>509872500
those niggers would tell you they were scientologists if you gave them a bowl of rice to do so

show me their works and you are still the color of my literal poop

>>509872348
>Not true, you are putting God in the place of every person who has ever done anything good or evil, you are making Him out to be a puppet master pulling everyone's strings
Does God know what you're going to eat for dinner tomorrow?

>God provides the potential for us to exist and live how we want but He doesn't reach down and make us choose what to do, we choose what we do
He is the omniscient Prime Mover that started all chains of causality with full foreknowledge of what would occur

Now answer the question- does God know what you'll eat for dinner tomorrow?

>>509863112
Actually most were mutts from what I've seen. Thats texas for you.

>>509872246
Who mentioned paganism apart from you, kek?

Are you honestly conflating pantheism and paganism? Is this the state of yank education? wewewewwewe.

>>509872440
>>509872053
>d-dying is actually g-good!11!!1
holy yikes, true mental illness
what next, your jewish cult dying out is also a good thing?

>>509872664
>Who mentioned paganism apart from you, kek?
>>509872246
>>Gaia is the closest thing we have to God.
>>Pantheism is the next step, and infaliable.
>>

Paganism, according to Merriam-Webster, is a term encompassing various spiritual beliefs and practices, often those outside the major Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Islam, and Christianity). It


you are literally a bisexual mongrel in real life why even argue against me

>>509872564
>and you are still the color of my literal poop
>tf, tp
project harder amerimutt

No but it confirms you shouldnt build shit in dry river land. Maybe.

>>509853414
Cool statue. Even has a giant hammer like a From boss.

>>509853742
>>509863257
We are not really 'humans' we are higher beings playing a game. Part of the fun of the game is to forget your origin and true nature. You "suffer" when you play DnD, or Minopoly or Dark Souls, Minecraft, Sonic, whatever and the suffering seems real to the little video game guy on the screen but at the end it doesnt matter and the real "you" is better off thanks to that suffering.

>>509872747
>Marriam Webster
ahahhahahhhahahhhhhahhah

>apart from Abrahmism
fucking hell, you're a fucking kike. WOW.

>>509871933
>God is not a mere observer, he is the Creator, the Prime Mover. He set into motion all events that will ever occur
yes (Ephesians 1:11)
but it also affirms that God's sovereignty operates through secondary causes (human will, natural laws) without violating their nature (Acts 2:23, 4:27-28).
you're conflating ordination with direct causation. God decreed the fall, but adam sinned freely (Genesis 3:6, Hosea 6:7)
He hardens pharaoh's heart, yet pharaoh hardens himself (Exodus 8:15,32) your analogy fails because breeders determine their dog's nature, but God created man upright (ecclesiastes 7:29) and evil entered through rebellion, not design.
>how could a perfect God create an imperfect humanity
He didn't. He created a perfect humanity capable of moral choice, because love, worship and obedience require freedom (Joshua 24:15).
a "perfect" world of robotic sinlessness isn't morally superior, it's amoral. the greater good is a world where evil, permitted but not auathored by God, is defeated through Christ (Romans 5:20-21)
>if he hated evil he could've made a world without it.
unless His purpose was to display BOTH justice and mercy (Romans 9:22-23) to glorify Himself not just in innocence, but in redemption.
the cross isn't plan B, it's the revelation of God's wisdom (1 Cor 2:7-8) in turning evil's greatest weapon (death) against itself. your objection assumes God's highest goal is minimizing suffering, but scripture says it's maximizing His glory (Isaiah 43:7) and He accomplishes that through and not in spite of evil's temporary reign.

>>509872752
>>and you are still the color of my literal poop
>>tf, tp
>project harder amerimutt

you belong in a turlet

>>509870423
The truth is that Jesus never attempted to proclaim himself as "god" these ideas where just tacked on by theocracy because they needed a way to continue to control the masses.

The trinity and most of modern Christianity is just a massive pyramid scheme created by "the church" centuries after Jesus was crucified to control societies and governments for the ruling elite. It's nothing but modern day Pharoahs lording themselves over church and state. If you believe the shit that comes out of these bureaucratic priests mouths im sorry. These people 'Christians' are really just the modern example of pagan idoliters worshipping sin as a god.

>>509870679
>king james
This is not a completely accurate translation. We have an analogue of this, the Synodal translation, and it is also considered inaccurate, but nevertheless it is the most poetic translation

>>509872812
>>Marriam Webster
>ahahhahahhhahahhhhhahhah

>>509872812
>>apart from Abrahmism
>fucking hell, you're a fucking kike. WOW.


see pic rel>>509872246

>>509872564
>show me their works

Baded true christian not reading his bible.

>>509872898
>The truth is that Jesus never attempted to proclaim himself as "god"

kike megaretard >>509868946
>30 I and my Father are one.
>
>31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
>
>32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
>
>33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
>
>58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
>
>8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
>
>9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

>>509853742
All bad is good, in that it teaches man to let go of desire and attachment which brings man closer to the nature of the ultimate god

t. LogicRestored

>>509853312 (OP)
>It’s hard to believe an all-controlling, all-loving creator would do this to innocent Christian children
why didn't you pull this line when Gaza got bombed

>>509872923
>>show me their works
>
>Baded true christian not reading his bible.


14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

>>509853312 (OP)
>took them to heaven to avoid them becoming whores/agents of satan
>took them to heaven to protect them from fates worse than death in wars that are to come
God is all knowing and you are not. There is a reason.

>>509872911
I prefer this:

Sexuality has no bearing on ideology. I believe the closest thing we have to a god is our planet and should respect it. Spiritually I believe 'god' is code for physics, and we should try to understand it. I'm not a fag (unless I'm fucking you in the ass).

>>509872624
>He is the omniscient Prime Mover that started all chains of causality with full foreknowledge of what would occur
Where does it say that?

>does God know what you'll eat for dinner tomorrow?
But I did have breakfast next morning.

>>509872757
this bitch is screaming for white cock

>>509873088
>Sexuality has no bearing on ideology

incorrect, see also pic rel>>509872246

>>509873167
Christian acceptance is at like 80%
You dumbasses literally can't understand numbers.

>>509873167
american is a kike shthole. your jewish stats are irrelevant.

the fact your nations is full of fags is not conclusive. it just shows you're an empire in decline.

>>509853312 (OP)
You are materialistic and bound to this world.

You'll never understand that dying isn't always the worst thing because it can be the best thing. Only those who have gone and come back know that. The desire to stay there is stronger than anything this earth can offer, including loved ones.

>>509872952
>I and my Father are one.
What exactly do you think that means?

If I told you that I had a monozygotic twin would that mean im the same person as my brother?

>>509873260
They post the graph showing 94% of atheists accept guys but like 85% of Christians do too. The actual states just show that modern people don't care about fans.
Basically they're lying by omission.

>>509873238
its fifty four percent and dropping rapidly that is substantially different from 94 percent of atheist>>509873260
>american is a kike shthole. your jewish stats are irrelevant.

you are statistically a cocksmoking faggot weirdo of course you would disregard those stats

>>509873238

Going back to earlier, Christians will NEVER answer the following.

Why is there unrealised potential in the universe? If God is omni* everything shoudl already have been achieved.

the fact 'action verbs' exist in our language indicates that imperfection exists, thus a monotheistic deity is not perfect.

>>509853312 (OP)
>thinking a jewish three horned wind spirit is somehow benevolent or loving in any way
LMAO

>>509872709
Did I say dying was good, Achmed? Can you even read?

>>509873285
>>I and my Father are one.
>What exactly do you think that means?


that he and the father are one, if i asked you to show me god and you said "how long have you known me for and you say you dont know god" what am i saying to you?

>>509872952
>>8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
>>
>>9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

>>509873367
Over 600 million white people are atheists. You're literally such a fucking idiot that you think the majority of white people are gay.

>>509873356
>85% of Christians [accept homosexuality]
where are you guys getting that figure from?
this is pew: >>509873375

>>509873434
It shows that pantheism is the Christian ideology. Everything is 'God', yet individual pieces are different.

Catholicism cannot exist outside a pantheistic construct.

>>509872828
>God created man upright (ecclesiastes 7:29) and evil entered through rebellion, not design.
Evil entered man because man was made faulty. If man was made perfect evil could not have entered into him

>He created a perfect humanity capable of moral choice, because love, worship and obedience require freedom
Man and woman that fall to temptation, cursing all men and animals to death is not "perfect"

>the greater good is a world where evil, permitted but not auathored by God, is defeated through Christ
All evil is authored by God. See >>509872624

The Prime Mover knew all events that would ever occur before he created anything. He is the direct author of our reality. If you're brave enough to answer- does God know what you'll eat for dinner tomorrow?

>unless His purpose was to display BOTH justice and mercy (Romans 9:22-23) to glorify Himself not just in innocence, but in redemption
Torturing one's son to death as a form of vicarious redemption for the evil actions of other men is neither mercy nor justice. In fact punishing the innocent for the sins of the guilty is the opposite of justice

Not that men can truly be called guilty for doing exactly as their Creator knew they would

>>509873093
Evading the question

>>509853312 (OP)
Well if one had to assign this to God, then one could say it’s a punishment for this nation being anti-immigrant towards Christian people.
God is not all loving all the time. He punishes people a lot in the Bible.

>>509853312 (OP)
you morons are so fucking stupid it's almost unbelievable
it's literally the most basic bitch redditor argument you could possibly make
the quality of the posting here has been fucking dismal for years and it's somehow getting worse

>>509871030
>he is the father whats heresy is worshipping jesus mother mary calling her the "queen of heaven" you are worshipping isthar/ashura the queen of heaven pretending to be "Christian"
I am not saying that Jesus is exactly him, but the Jews had reasons to consider Jesus as Baal, or his son - Melqart (like Horus and Osiris or Marduk and Nabu, Zeus and Dionysus/Hercules, Enki and Tammuz, many analogues), always there in the center is the virgin mother. This was the MOST important mythical motif in religions and mysteries. The Gospels are different in spirit. John is the most Hellenic Gospel, in fact Jesus there is Dionysus (from the Orphic mysteries, he is more decent)

Well, yes, the Queen of Heaven has been applied for thousands of years to the same goddess Inanna-Venus, aka Isis, Neith, Ishtar, Shavushka, Atargatis, Artimpasa. This is strange. Even stranger, in the Gospel there are several Marys where there is Mary the prostitute, Mary the mother, etc. These are the very contradictory hypostases that these goddesses, the queens of heaven, had (read about the Veil of Isis and The Thunder, Perfect Mind)

>>509873645
>He punishes people a lot in the Bible.
your kike "god" is also obsessed with foreskins for some reason
oh wait it's because he's a kike
xddddd

>>509873666
>666
imagine being this attached to a soap opera

>>509860990
THe argument is that an all powerfull and all good god can not exist

>>509873285
>What exactly do you think that means?

I think it means what scripture declares it to mean despite your many copes.

>"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."- 1 Timothy 3:16

>"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power"- Colossians 2:8-10

>>509862026
>i've never seen it framed that way, and the thousands of theodicies and defenses like plantinga's transworld depravity and notions like skeptical theism would work to shut that shit down too.
So he's not all powerful then

>>509853312 (OP)
>flood hits a majority shitskin state and exclusively kills White children
Either god isn't real, doesn't intervene in human affairs, of is a kike.

>>509873740
you MUST do as the Levantines say. This is NOT politics or control, goy. Blieve the fucking book.

>>509873434
>what am i saying to you?
You cant show me god, but you can show me you.

Is it possible that instead of Jesus trying to represent himself as god, he is infact trying to state that he is his son?

>>509873415
Again, religious faggots NEVER have an answer to this.
Pantheism utterly destroys the christcuck, the kike and the suicide bomber.

>>509864586
Why does god let newborns be raped to death?

>>509853312 (OP)
>if god real ooga booga why bad thing happen ooga booga?

>>509873768
And that argument is not a good one and has been defeated time and time again. You faggots still hold onto it like a lifeline and deny that anyone has ever actually defeated it because your faith in the logic of that flawed argument is so strong.

Big cope.

>>509873630
>It shows that pantheism is the Christian ideology. Everything is 'God', yet individual pieces are different.

god is one "i and my father are one"

how many is one?

>>509873883
God is very pro-violence against babies and children in the OT

>>509873842
>>what am i saying to you?
>You cant show me god, but you can show me you.


jesus is blatantly saying hes god there and you are ignoring it because you got roped into some nonbiblical beliefs by your denomination many such cases

>>509873415
Again who says that god is "perfect"?

>>509873877
???

>>509873953
Christian answer: because God loves baby rape.

>>509873760
>>666
>imagine being this attached to a soap opera
Who...am I?

AAAAAAAAAA!

Perhaps I was possessed by an evil spirit and I am wrong to make such comparisons

>>509874015
How can God have a child?
Having a child implies unrealised potential, thus negating the omni* status of God itself.

Monothism falls under its own weight, like communism or any authoritarian construct. The only way to describe a monteist God is the verb 'to be'.

>>509874101
God works in mysterious ways. It's for the greater good somehow

>>509873666
jesus was dismissive of his earthly family explicitly including his mother along with his earthly brothers at the end of mark 3 mary is not that important in the new testament beyond birthing jesus that attitude comes from catholic tradition

>>509871030
Worshipping Istanbul or any other deity would require vocalising that you are specifically worshipping that deity. Calling Mary queen of heaven is just that, calling Mary by an appropriate moniker - she was after all taken up to Heaven alive.
What doesn’t make sense is getting angry about this when the Bible itself uses various monikers to describe God: Most High, Almighty God, the Lord, Yahweh.

>>509874138
You're based, and should carry on.

>>509874158
>Having a child implies unrealised potential,

no it doesnt

>>509874086
How can God not be perfect in a monotheist construct?
>omnipresent
>omnipotent
>omniscient
Aren't these the fdefining factors?

>>509874180
>Worshipping Istanbul or any other deity would require vocalising that you are specifically worshipping that deity


no it doesnt

>>509874050
>jesus is blatantly saying hes god there and you are ignoring it because you got roped into some nonbiblical beliefs by your denomination many such cases
Where exactly does he say he's "g-d"?
If he was trying to say that wouldn't he make himself clear by outright saying it?
He doesn't because he isn't. It is the church that is desperate for control over both "g-d" and christ.

>>509874208
Are you this fucking retarded?
Do you know what sex is?

>>509874259
>Where exactly does he say he's "g-d"?
>>509873434
>Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
>>>
>>>9(Dead) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

right here you are playing dumb at least for your sake i hope you are playing

>>509862026
>>509869171
>if this is something you're legitimately curious about logically instead of emotionally, check out plantinga's "transworld depravity" in his dialogues with the proto-dawkins JL mackie.
Here's my counter argument to plantinga. Why doesn't god intervene to prevent newborns from being raped to death?

>>509874259
>g-d
Yahweh is a fucking scam you kike nigger. Go rope yoursellf and become the 6 million

>>509874271
He's an e-christian, all he knows is that sex is le bad.

>>509874271
god does not have sex, hes god

>all controlling
Huh? That’s not how anyone thinks it works.
And you should fear God.
You seem to want to argue with buck toothed lesbian rainbow flag nonce vicar larpers.
Oh look… God rewarded me! 22% holy moley praise the Lord.

>>509874329
the marital bed is undefiled.

>>509874331
sex = unrealised potential
It's existence disproves god.

Only pantheism whre 'the system' = God is compatible.

>>509874402
>sex = unrealised potential
>It's existence disproves god.


not it doesnt

>>509853312 (OP)
>kikeworshipping spicxas cuckstains
>innocent
TOTAL KIKEWORSHIPPER DEATH RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
IF YOU WORSHIP KIKES I WILL KILL YOU
SIMPLE AS

>>509874431
Ok, let's go step by step.

Is God:
>omnipotent
>omniscient
>omnipresent
?

>>509874435
you are the color of my poop, kike

>>509874474
yes

>>509874496
YOU ARE SHIT AT THE BOTTOM OF MY BOOT, KIKEWROSHIPPER

>>509874371
You're an e-christian, you have an incel bed. Probably a race car.

>>509874601
you are the color of feces

>if god why bad thing?
maybe they died in the state of grace and therefore went directly to heaven.
read Ecclesiastes and Job

>>509853742
Its possible that god isnt all powerful or all knowing, in fact its possible that god is learning and growing from this world and simply let's life unfold however it does. Why have free will if you're going to intervene? Free will is pivitol to our creators growth, it doesn't mean they like everything that happens, but they arent going to interfere, unless maybe things get to a point they can no longer accept. I think humans need to rethink what the creator really is, they created an idea of what it is, but theres no truth to it.

>>509874632
>You're an e-christian, you have an incel bed. Probably a race car.


i used to have sex i still get propositioned im a volcel

>>509874528
The child me and my wife will have in 2 years or so... (fingers crossed!!!)

Does God exist in this child?
Is God forcing me to have this child?

Why does the child not currently exist? If it was part of His vision, why am I the key?

If God exists in my unborn child,it means he spans everything in place and time, thus is pantheistic. He's a system, not a 'being'.

>>509874692
>Its possible that god isnt all powerful or all knowing

>>509873021
>For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

>>509874747
>The child me and my wife will have in 2 years or so... (fingers crossed!!!)
>
>Does God exist in this child?

no because hes part kike
>>509874747
>Is God forcing me to have this child?

no
>>509874747
>Why does the child not currently exist? If it was part of His vision, why am I the key?

he wanted it that way>>509874747
>If God exists in my unborn child,it means he spans everything in place and time, thus is pantheistic.


that does not equal to pantheism if hes everywhere and everything at once, hes ONE

>>509874695
That looks like a little chink boy's eye.

Before the thread ends, are any Christians willing to answer the following question-
>Does God know what you'll eat for dinner tomorrow?

Last chance to not cuck

>>509874692
A not all-knowing God = polytheism or panentheism.

We need to ask:
>is god the room?
>is god in the room?
>is god the main character in the room?
>is god looking at thr room?

>>509874853
I don't think you're actign in good faith, btw. I shared somethig personal.

How does ONE != pantheism? how can a perfect being allow something else to exist beyond Him?

>>509874825
>>For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.


paul and peter disagreed both were right, consider the good thief crucified next to jesus christ, who said we belong up here not him and jesus told him truly you will join me in paradise this evening, what good works did the good thief show? none, score one for paul. suppose though in that instance the good thief was spared from the cross do you suppose hed continue being a thief? i strongly doubt it, his faith if legitimate (it was) would inspire a change in him

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

>>509874878
God = physics and therfore the underlying science which drives everything causing you to have dinner.

Anybody who beliees there's a sky monster is a fucking lunatic.

>>509863671
>I can still called myself the number 1
You cam call yourself whatever LARP you want. It means nothing to no one or had any actual reality on anything

>>509874178
>jesus was dismissive of his earthly family explicitly including his mother along with his earthly brothers at the end of mark 3 mary is not that important in the new testament
It's a fact
>beyond birthing jesus that attitude comes from catholic tradition

Orthodoxy also honors the Virgin Mary and she has the same status as "Queen of Heaven". She is sometimes depicted holding her hands in a characteristic way and goddesses were also often depicted holding their hands like that. I associate this with the Egyptian kꜣ (ka), there are hints of it all over the world, the caduceus is also veiledly associated with it. I think this is a hint of a heavenly twin, which is hinted at in the Bible and the apocrypha (the Mandaeans also have a concept of a world of ideal doubles)

Baal is most likely associated with the Egyptian Ba (personality). In essence, Ba Al (El) is like a manifestation, a person (double) of El (Enlil). Jesus on the cross addresses Eli/Eloi btw

>>509874961
>I don't think you're actign in good faith, btw. I shared somethig personal.


i one hundred percent am convinced you are a kike acting in bad faith i dont believe you are having a childin the first place

>>509874633
guaranteed i'm the one who's white here, and you're the one who's the color of feces, faggot kike

>>509867999
Based

>>509875088
>guaranteed i'm the one who's white here
ive literally already posted my white face to you a few times, are you retarded?

>>509875172
Lol it's the McQueer fag

>>509875172
Do you have a hard time dressing yourself?

>>509875230
im just a straight white christian what are you meant to be?

>>509864847
>consider for a moment he was real
Why should anyone consider your personal feelings McQueef?

>>509875285
i dont concern myself at all with what i will wear

something wrong with a ten dollar t-shirt and cargo pants?

>>509875289
>just a straight
(X) doubt. You bring up fag shit a lot

>>509875296
you are the color of my poop my friend

>>509875328
Your shirt has cum stains and little holes from the children in your basement clawing at it and your shorts are very crooked.

>>509875366
>(X) doubt. You bring up fag shit a lot

i spend 90 percent of my time arguing with antichrist fags so that checks out

>>509875172
you're very clearly a kike, but since you're a kike you think kikes are "white" so you think you yourself are somehow "white" but i have bad news for you hymie: one drop rule

>>509875416
the holes are from sliding boxed refrigerators and gas stoves down my front to lay them down and drag them to the front of the truck to be delivered


you kikes the fashion police now? i dont care about this lmao

>>509870181
>morals can't be real
They're real, but they aren't consistent, there isnt a useful definition. Islamic morality is different than Jewish morality. It's fine to have morals and base them on what you want.

>>509875051
>i one hundred percent am convinced you are a kike
Of course you would. You're mentality is no different a tranny who gets offended. They call people bigots and "phobes" you call people kikes. Virtually no difference between you and them

>>509875422
>i spend 90 percent of my time
Being a fag lol

bbc potential

>>509875463
>you're very clearly a kike,

im very clearly german scottish and danish


hence "mcqueen" from mac sweeney the danish settlers of northern scottland on the island of skye and eventually ireland, we still have a castle their you should check it out its pretty neat

>>509875374
Nope.

>>509875504
>>509875551

you are the color of my poop

>>509874303
>Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

Jesus said to them, "Why are you troubled? Truly I say to you, all the priests standing before that altar invoke my name. And [again], I say to you, my name has been written on this [house] of the generations of the stars by the human generations. [And they] have shamefully planted fruitless trees in my name." Jesus said to them, "You're the ones receiving the offerings on the altar you've seen. That's the God you serve, and you're the twelve people you've seen. And the animals you saw brought in to be sacrificed are the crowd you lead astray 40 before that altar. [Your minister] will stand up and use my name like that, and [the] generations of the pious will be loyal to him. After him, another person will present [those who sleep around], and another those who murder children, and another those who sleep with men, and those who fast, and the rest of impurity, crime, and error. And those who say, 'We're equal to the angels' – they're the stars that finish everything. It's been said to the human generations, 'Look, God has accepted your sacrifice from the hands of priests,' that is, the minister of error. But the Lord who commands is the Lord over everything. On the last day, they'll be found guilty."

>>509875597
yep

>>509875473
>christNEETs lying about doing manual labor

>>509875619
>gospel of judas

>>509874961
>How does ONE != pantheism? how can a perfect being allow something else to exist beyond Him?
Notice how McQueef avoids actual arguments?

>>509875573
white people don't carry water for jewish pedophiles

>>509875649
Prove it :^)

>>509875005
>paul and peter disagreed both were right,

That's not how this works it's the word of God not 2 guys with different philosophies.

>>509875650
Yeah McQueer is a notorious liar on thos board lol

>>509875485
>different people have different views about X
>therefore X does not exist in reality, only in people's minds
powerful logic
as expected of a /pol/ atheist

>>509875650
why would i lie about being an appliance delivery man for years lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0

>>509875610
Prove it :^)

>>509861318
Do you think only good things should happen?

>>509875727
thats what happened jesus constantly corrected his disciples when they misunderstood him and its recorded in the bible why would that change after his death and ressurection. neither were wrong in the first place, we are saved by grace alone but many will pretend to be christian and be lying as jesus directly said, if you have faith you WILL produce good works given the opportunity

>>509875794
Kek, another McQueef pretend story lol

>>509875823
>good things
Are subjective

>>509875816
>>509875816
>Prove it :^)

>>509875890
This isn't proof my friend

But you do prove me right
>>509875504
>You're mentality is no different a tranny who gets offended. They call people bigots and "phobes" you call people kikes. Virtually no difference between you and them
Thanks :^)

>>509875691

>>509875844
Because there was a correction right there, who is going to correct Paul when he wrote the letters? No one. You are whorshipping God not Paul or Peter.

>>509875849
i delivered refrigerators for two years with sargent appliance along with my partner bart

heres an album bart released in the nineties i shared on my soundcloud

https://soundcloud.com/jacob-anthony-mcqueen/sets/a-k-g-hard-core-masta-mindz

>>509875885
So was this flood was good or bad, in your subjective opinion?

>>509875964
>This isn't proof my friend

it is proof, poop is brown you are the color of my poop, case closed

>>509876013
>i delivered refrigerators for two years
Nope
>>509876016
>So was this flood was good or bad
What flood?

>>509876008
>Because there was a correction right there, who is going to correct Paul when he wrote the letters? No one. You are whorshipping God not Paul or Peter.


they disagreed but neither was actually wrong i explained this already

>>509868975
>No weapon formed against me shall prospe-ACK

>>509875693
The irony..... We see through you, kike.

>>509876073
>>i delivered refrigerators for two years
>Nope

i did look up sargent appliance in michigan ask for johnny ask if a jacob mcqueen ever worked htere


ask also if he ever sent the biggest delivery man they had to the hospital for attempting to choke him

>>509876049
>you are the color of my poop
Nope. I'm just as white as you. But thanks letting this thread know you play with shit lol

>>509876016
this was a bad thing
God uses bad things to further His good purposes
everything will wind up good in the endgame

>>509876139
>i did
You didn't

>>509873666
>Queen of Heaven
Many who are into ufos and high strangeness are talking about an entity known as 'the lady'. This things has made herself known to a father and son in the US
https://youtu.be/zYgRp4M0ZRA?si=ccha2yX1XDyW2PHB

Some think the Fatima aparition was real but was not Mary mother of Jesus but a misterious "queen of heaven". The entity never named herself the children just called her Mary

https://youtu.be/NGuVBLNkjiE?si=gSgxxbjqnSJakB5R

https://youtu.be/_JajNETMXUg?si=paU0T6CE1KDxKekZ

>>509876149
>Nope. I'm just as white as you

prove it

>>509876191
call and ask tell johnny i said hi

>>509876139
>look up sargent appliance in michigan ask for johnny ask if a jacob mcqueen ever worked htere
Which location bud?

>>509876095
>we are saved by grace alone

End of the story, not "show me your works" and you misunderstood Peter.

>>509876207
>prove it
You prove I'm not :^)

We've all seen your high school pics bro

>>509876245
Which location?

>>509876252
the one in macomb

>>509853312 (OP)
Things happen to Christians all the time throughout all of Christian history. What a low level attempt.

>>509876316
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
we are saved by grace but any man who claims to be saved but has no works to show is a liar

>>509876100

>>509876386

>>509875789
I'm saying they exist in reality, they're separate from ethics. I'm not an atheist.

>>509876478
i have questions but the thread will 404 before i'm able to ask them

>>509876567
a new antichrist kike thread is likely already up they are spammed 24/7

>>509876328
Just called. They never heard of you

>>509876653
you are straight up lying

>>509876682
Nope

But you are. Here is there contract info.

>>509876385
>24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
>25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

"It's not possible 44 to sow on [rock] and harvest its fruit. In the same way, it's [not possible to sow on] the [defiled] race along with the perishable wisdom [and] the hand which created mortal humans so that their souls may go up to the realms above. [Truly] I say to you, [no ruler], angel, [or] power will be able to see the [places] that [this great], holy generation [will see]." When Jesus said this, he left.

>>509876729
jake is johnnys son i know him and i know johnny


jake started calling me "stickman" after i sent big ron to the hospital my partner was bart gendreua (spelling might be off)


you are a poop colored liar

>>509876845
>i know him and i know johnny
They don't know you lol

>>509876893
they do, back when i still had facebook jake (the owners son) added me on facebook. they would not forget me nor my partner bart, i sent the biggest delivery guy to the hospital for stitches when he tried to choke me as at the time one of their smallest employees they would not have forgotten lmao

>>509876845
>jake started calling me "stickman" after i sent big ron to the hospital my partner was bart gendreua (spelling might be off)
Clear sign of a liar is when they make up stories to make their lies sound plausible. It's like giving to much details. Clear sign of a liar