Where did this narrative come from? As if it’s not because our countries have been mass importing shitskins for decades.

it’s actually your fault you keep ending up being ruled by jews, you’d think white people would learn after 109 exiles but you keep turning the other cheek

>>509881832 (OP)
>Where did this narrative come from?
They want us to think they are importing brown people to work, that we somehow need them to do slave labor jobs, when in reality it is explicitly to race-mix white people out of existence. You wouldn't import slaves to pick cotton, and then put propaganda on TV telling your own kids to fuck them.

>>509881832 (OP)
Birth rates of whites across Europe are down. Well below replacement level. Europe cannot survive without immigration. What is so controversial about this? And why does it matter so much?

>>509882411

>>509882411
But Europe cannot survive with immigration, if your people die out and are replaced with other people, then you did not survive. Pretty simple stuff.

>>509882463
And?

>>509882544
>if your people die out

Which brings us to the original claim. Your problem isn't immigration - its that you do not breed.

>>509881832 (OP)
conservatives offer nothing except lectures
they fuck up the country, and their solution is:
it's your fault for not working hard enough
it's your fault for not having enough kids
it's your fault for not....

>>509882411
>overpopulation is necessary for survival
shalom, avi

>>509882803
Alright, continue dying out then

>>509882622
But we do have children. A declining population is fine. And immigration suppresses birth rates by impoverishing the native population due to labour oversupply.

>>509882928
>But we do have children

fewer than 2 per family. that isn't sustainable

>>509882411
Kike Ashkenazi have worse birth rate than us and out breed at a rate of 70% you'll actually be extinct in 300 years. Us on the other hand need nothing, not from you nor niggers. The fact is that "not survive" is a vile way of saying "line must go up goy!" No, it can oscillate. Of course kikes just want Whites dead. Fuck I hate kikes.

>>509882411
>Europe cannot survive without immigration
Translation: "Ooooooooooy veeeeeeey, the line isn't going up!!!"

>>509881832 (OP)
Shitting out more kids is good but it won't be enough. That's the psyop the conservicucks are running (all we have to do is breed and the problem is solved). In actuality, if we want our nations back, real genuine action will need to be taken to remove the millions of foreigners in all our respective nations.

>>509882411
1) Population contractions are a problem for rent-seeking parasites who've decided to peg their net worth to infinite growth, not the rest of us.
2) Birth rates will be able to bounce back from this postmodern lul just fine when the time is right, and when the jewish rent-seekers mentioned above stop suppressing them, by burdening native populations with the material costs of subsidized immigration and the social costs of multi-ethnic division.

>What is so controversial about this?
It isn't controversial. The vast majority of the White population in every White nation is opposed to it. The experiment has been run and public opinion is settled.

>>509883041
>that isn't sustainable
Neither is immigration. And immigration worsens it by creating poverty and overcrowding.

>>509882411
A lot of zoomers and boomers think like this and it's terrifying. They literally cannot see the obvious problems that come with it

The narrative that that's the only reason (which is false; it is a contributing factor, but it's mainly because of mass immigration) comes from fundamentalist Christian sects who believe "be fruitful and multiply" was not an optional instruction, and that to do otherwise is to disobey and stray further from God.
That said, fertility rate is nonetheless also extremely important. It does not suffice to just genocide shitskins, because nature abhors vacua. Regardless of whether we mass import them or not, they're still outbreeding us 10:1 in their own countries, and while we can't feasibly outbreed subhumans, we can't also just stay comfortably at replacement. Of course, we must also invade their shitholes and fucking destroy the lot of them because their very existence is a threat to mankind, but that's a different matter.

>>509883107
>Birth rates will be able to bounce back
Two weeks

>>509883116
>And immigration worsens it by creating poverty
It doesn't. And overcrowding is not a thing either. It would take billions of people to overcrowd the US.

>>509882411
Some species won't breed in captivity or under stress, that's how they got the birthrates down for White people.

>>509881832 (OP) Goldberg is attempting a soft return to WWE. His awkwardness is still intact, but his nose has grown exponentially. Impressive stuff.

>>509883158
You are the architect of the problem. Immigration is a solution. Not a perfect one, but still better than just ignoring it. If you had children this would not be happening. You have nobody but yourselves to blame.

>>509882887
>>509883041
Genuinely, what's wrong with a declining population? Historically it's more than normal for countries to have periods of population decline and growth. Why must our population grow infinitely?
Also, whenever someone says "dying out" remind them that once the population drops the birthrates stabilize on their own

>>509881832 (OP)
It came from the tranny-hating feminists who were left politically homeless fairly recently. Trying to worm their way back into the left isnt realistic and probably pisses them off directly after insane trannies got them kicked out of the party actual female feminism built lmao. A lot of their verbiage lines up. They hate niggers and trannies and want that taken care of without feminism for White women being touched in the slightest. Finding a way to insert feminism into every rightwing and otherwise remotely conservative issue is now the MO.

>>509881832 (OP)
Unironically true. Unchecked immigration is happening, for sure, but none of that matters if you’re not having kids. You know what it looks like without immigration? SK. Japan. China. They’re no better off (although China will turn it around).

>>509883265
Then those species are an evolutionary dead end. Nobody will create artificial settings for you to breed in. You are not pandas. Such is life.

>>509883158
everyone here outside of the original designated ghettos believes this shit, its been crammed into their skulls since the early 80s

>>509883322
>suppress wages with mass migration
>make housing unaffordable
>make (((dating apps))) that make women out of reach for a huge chunk of men
>make marriage so one-sided that getting married to one isn't worth it even if you do find one
>"This is your fault, shegetz!"
And you still haven't explained why it's so important for the population to keep going up forever and ever. Probably cause it's to keep us ordinary people in a race to the bottom.

>>509883340
Societal collapse because the 5% working population needs to produce enough for all the old fucks

>>509883250
if we aren't overcrowded why are property values so ludicrous?

is the fait ponzi scheme more important than the blood of the race? oh wait you aren't white,of course you'd say yes

>>509883340
>Genuinely, what's wrong with a declining population?

It sabotages the economy. A country where the majority of the population is retired and does not work cannot sustain itself. See Japan. They tried playing the no immigration game and now have to open up because reality kicked in.

>>509882411
>we need the exact amount t of white people we have now (or even more) to survive!
The population was 75% lower in the 1920’s, the pinnacle of human existence

>>509883522
>if we aren't overcrowded why are property values so ludicrous?

Because people want to live in good popular areas. You can easily buy land in Oklahoma for dirt cheap.

>>509882887
>If you don't destroy the planet and go extinct, you wont survive!
Why do you kikes hate nature so much

>>509881832 (OP)
This whole meme about civilization being on the verge of collapse because the birth rate suddenly dropped below replacement rate is just another ridiculous jew psyop intended to be used to justify the mass importation of millions of brown third worlders.
The real decline in birth rates happened in the mid-'50s through mid-'70s when it dropped by about half, due to effective birth control becoming widely available. It has been fairly steady for the last ~50 years since then.
/pol/ incels just took the bait on this one because they think it will somehow lead to society giving them free tradwives or some shit, idk.

>>509883594
>Jews are trying to kill off billions of people with vaccine!
>Jews also want to breed billions of people to overcrowd the world!

Which is it?

>>509883527
>muh econuumeeehhh
like I said, Fiat ponzi scheme> the race, according to KIKES AND PAJEETS


KILL YOURSELF YOU AREN'T EVEN THE BENEFACTOR OF THIS PYRAMID SCHEME

>>509883597
When did non-white immigration to NA start?

>>509882411
Die jude

>>509881832 (OP)
Shush goyim... and send more money to Israel.

No more (YOU)s for you, faggot. Anyways, I will take a momentary economical decline over newyorkification of my country. Why does the economy need to grow infinitely?

>>509883597
>line dropping sharply for more than a decade is ackshually complete stability
You sound Trump-level fucking retarded here.

>>509883661
>Jews are trying to kill off White people
>Jews are also trying to replace Whites with a brown slave race
Yeah that's basically it

>>509883661
Why do Jews find both sides in a war

They need chaos so that they don't get shoah'd

>>509883597
The most recent data also shows the current rate well beneath the local minimum during the era you describe.
Where the FUCK did you learn to interpret data? Women school?

>>509883250
>Two weeks
It's Nature, you midwit faggot. Oscillation is the norm. Knee-jerk panic over every line that doesn't trend up infinitely forever is a distinctly contemporary illness.

Now go do some reading about how immigrant populations dump their birthrates to match their host nation within a generation or two anyway, and work on getting comfy with the notion that even if all your assumptions are right, you're *still* dead fucking wrong - because your "solution" is just to throw more bodies into the population sink and ethnically cleanse White people for nothing anyway. Illiterate nigger.

>>509883787
>>509883813
Maybe its a good thing you are dying out after all

>>509883734
It's not about the economy retard. Who is going to fix potholes when there's no one to fix them?

>>509882411
There's fucking such thing as "replacement level". you deal with the population you have, it's not for corrupt politicians and corporations to decide you need to import more

>Implying potholes are being fixed

>>509883943
>There's fucking such thing as "replacement level".

So you agree with me

>>509883882
Theres that idiotic myopia all midwits(jews) suffer from. All youre doing is killing off the dysgenic Whites and accidentally pressuring evolution to create Super Aryans who are brilliant, masculine and warlike, and insanely ethnocentric.

I am currently masturbating. To what media should I ejaculate? Currently stroking it to Overwatch porn

>>509884026
ok

>>509883986
fuck you *no such thing

>>509883983
hurr durr
Your power goes out and no one can fix it, you have to move or try yourself
Your plumbing backs up, no more plumbers
You cannot deny basic mathematics

>>509882205
>, when in reality it is explicitly to race-mix white people out of existence

What's so bad about race mixing?

>Implying immigrants are working in electrical fields and as plumbers

>>509881832 (OP)
Leftists are fighting against preservation of nature so they promote never ending breeding to destroy everything that is good in the world, they are even willing to take people from over populated places and create war there so that they succeed in destroying all of nature.

>>509883943
>it's not for corrupt politicians and corporations to decide you need to import more

The population supports it. You are the minority.

Thinking I'm going to nut to Widowmaker's ass ngl

>>509883739
>>line dropping sharply for more than a decade is ackshually complete stability
Here is a larger scale chart so you can see that it has in fact been fairly stable for the last 50 years compared to the massive and rapid swings up and down during the first 3/4 of the 20th century.

>>509884101
That shares a list with the bad things about niggers.

>>509884183
Not what I'm implying retard, I'm sorry you can't understand numbers
You have a sub 90 IQ and will watch your granddaughter die of birth complications while the baby suffocate because there aren't any doctors
You hate cities? Everyone will be forced into them for the few doctors and tradesmen. Like rats.

>>509881832 (OP)
It's true. But we have low fertility because our women are feral.

>>509884307
This does not change the fact that it is dropping rapidly lmfao

>>509884307
Also, I am waiting to bring out the fact that youre showing all of America including jeets, niggers, and Mexicans.
Show data for WHITE women and tell me again.

>Mathematics
>Implying the number of doctors wouldn't be equivalent to the new population

>>509883821
>The most recent data also shows the current rate well beneath the local minimum during the era you describe.
Here is the most recent data that was released about a week and a half ago that shows the rate right where it is on the chart.
>Where the FUCK did you learn to interpret data?
Engineering school.
You are just butthurt and seething because the actual data doesn't fit your pre-existing assumptions about what is actually happening in the world. You are just a retard who fell for a jew psyop. Sorry you had to find out this way.

>>509884198
Trump won the popular vote on a platform of being against replacement migration you fucking insane commie.
Europe hates it too but they made it illegal to talk about.

>>509884476
Just goon away your last braincell, retard. No one cares what retards think.

Being a minority isn't a problem as long as you're elite.

Problem is, everybody knows whites are elite and are jealous.

They want access to fuck up society in the way they see fits their agenda.

What some of us realized is that white people are so void of spiritual energy that we want them to the pawns of the government and the economy.

>>509884512
1.52 is pitiful and youre cope spiraling. I will not entertain your LARP

>>509884540
Sure he did

I actually find it extremely erotic when people insult me. Please continue, I'm near. Should I post nut once I'm done?

>>509881832 (OP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_DwUt-tBNM

>>509884607
>here's how kamala can still win
come on man

>>509884616
Not an argument

>>509884655
Is English not your first language?

Well it's at least partly true. Why don't you fucking breed? Is that because of the Jews too?

I promise you that if a white boy and a white girl get the hots for each other and do it, Jews won't care or even know. Or is that too simple to understand?

>>509884718
Kamala lost, you have to move on.

>>509884722
It's cope by the whites that can't breed
White women have destroyed their race but they want to blame everyone but themselves

Sex≠forming a family btw

>>509884802
"White" women were never white to begin with.

>>509884794
I am not even America. I don't care.

>>509881832 (OP)
How can mutts be a minority in a 100% mutt country? Do you mean the Western Europe?

>>509884374
It dropped far more rapidly and to a much greater extent during the post WWII era and during the '20s and '30s and society didn't suddenly collapse because of it.
There are already 340 million people in the US and like 8 billion people on Earth. Even if we are below replacement rate for a long time, there will still be more than enough people to keep society functional.
And don't forget the whole thing where not that long ago everyone was freaking out about how AI and automation was on the verge of making all human jobs obsolete and we were about to have millions of excess surplus people that we would have to deal with.

Stopped overwatch now stroking it to Burnice

>>509884880
>VPN foreigner shilling for replacement migration
oy vey

>>509885006
I am physically in the US, I am not a citizen of the country

Women gained too much power in your society
They don't want to have 5 kids
You are here

>>509885065
honestly that's even worse. you have to go back

>>509884802
>the women are to blame!
>not the men that are allowing them to run wild!

>>509885110
In due time

leftists will to save the planet is lesser than the will to import infinite browns for brownie points

>>509884465
>Show data for WHITE women and tell me again.
See: >>509884512
Hispanics have the highest fertility rates, Asians have the lowest, with Whites and blacks in the middle, with White fertility rates being higher than for blacks. But they are all fairly close, it's just slightly higher for hispanics than Whites.
All of this stuff with the birth rate is a massive red herring. White replacement is not happening because of birth rates, it's because of mass immigration. The only solution is to end all immigration, legal or otherwise, and deport all of the other ones who are already here.
If you don't do that, then nothing else matters. At the rate that non-Whites were coming in under Biden, it literally would not be possible to increase White birth rates to account for that. You would have to somehow increase the birth rates for all fertile age White women in the US to even higher than they ever were during their pre-birth control peaks, while not increasing the birth rates for other races.

>>509885148
self deport now and you'll have the chance to come back legally. it's berter for everyone if it's done that way.

>>509885121
themselves in this case being the men that allowed women to take control of birth
Here's some hard facts
Winston Churchill had 5 kids (many more out of wedlock)
Raegen had 5
Bush had 6

The average American woman is able to control her husband do they have.. 1.5

>>509884722
>Why don't you fucking breed? Is that because of the Jews too?
Yes, as it's impossible for young men to find a job that can support a family, since you flooded the country with tens of millions of low-cost shitskins, then offshored millions of manufacturing jobs to China. On top of that, you made sure gibs only go to said shitskins. You also bought laws criminalizing White-focused associations, so, yes, in practical terms, it really is because of the kikes.

>>509885249
I am not planning to stay here for long. I have business here for now. Also I am legally here.

>>509884600
>1.52 is pitiful
Says the "man" with a personal lifetime birth rate of 0.0. Pathetic.

>>509885245
See
>>509885323

>>509881832 (OP)
They need white population growth for white collar labor

Jewish excellence is a myth. The average IQ of the general ashkenazim population is ~100, same as American whites, lower than some Nordic countries. They mostly steal patents and admit their own into the universities and corporations they control, while excluding equally (and more) brilliant whites.

>>509882205

Also, the women don't want to ruin their body with 5+ births so they have 1 kid and the kid can't socialize properly because no siblings and it can't breed.
This shits all self inflicted.

>>509882411
Eat shit nigger kike shill.

>>509882544
>But Europe cannot survive with immigration,

>>509885589
You can counter this epic Jewish plan by just not race mixing

>>509883059
>Of course kikes just want Whites dead. Fuck I hate kikes.

>>509883597
Civilization won't collapse, just Social Security, the stock market, boomer property values and any and all forms boomer bags, so from a political standpoint it's the apocalypse.

>>509883340
>Genuinely, what's wrong with a declining population? Historically it's more than normal for countries to have periods of population decline and growth. Why must our population grow infinitely?
It doesn't and it shouldn't. A stable or slight reduction in population is good for the citizens and the environemnt, but bad for the bankers.

>>509885441
Not really, but you keep thinking that. We gave you the atomic bomb and many other things. We even gave Elon the first version of his Tesla autopilot, the one that worked better with fewer cameras, but then we refused to continue to license it to him.

Whatever. We'll probably find out one way or the other.

>I CAN’T BREED

>>509885574
Once they have the first pregnancy the next are often easier. Typical female lack of logic?

>>509885574
false cause

>>509885847
It can happen the other way too and usually after 5 or 6 it becomes dangerous but yes, women are made for 4-6 pregnancies generally because in the past only 1 or 2 of them could survive until adulthood.

>>509885959
You maybe won't like to hear this, but Orthodox Jewish women often have more than that.

>>509881832 (OP)
We need National Socialism now more than ever. It saves the economy and society.

God raise His spirit. HH.

>>509886073
So do Muslims
Whites will continue to scream at us jeets, spics, nigs, whatever while allowing their women to decide their future.

>>509881832 (OP)
Remember how population reduction to reduce strain on the environment was the big thing pushed in the 80's and 90's? How automation would reduce the need for workers?

Then it shifted to WE NEED IMMIGRATION TO KEEP THE POPULATION UP the moment boomers got old and noticed they'd never ever expanding tax dollars to pay their social security despite being the richest generation?

>>509886680
Just fuck bro I'm begging you
No more asian women
Find and impregnate white women instead of being retarded bro

>>509886741
How about we just breed at the same rate we have been and fucking throw you all out? Or better yet, dump them in Changnadia

>>509886801
Go ahead it won't save your race when the Mexicans finish off your kids that are outnumbered 100 to 1
They just need to wait until you don't even have enough people to enforce borders

>>509886873
Mexicans have done nothing but get conquered and exploited since their pitiful people were discovered by the spanish.

>>509882411
>Europe cannot survive without immigration.
What is "Europe"? Why should I care for its survival?

>>509886941
Yeah I'm sure that will be comforting to the dwindling whites who have to hide to survive.
You guys can't take a hint. Deport us if you want, that won't fix shit and isn't the problem, it isn't why you guys brought my dad here in the 70s to work at a lumber mill.

>>509887065
>US.
Oh I see, you're larping this hard because you're another shitskinned sub human. I don't engage in debate with animals.

>>509887118
>I can't read
or breed, apparently
you are stupid

>>509881832 (OP)
Now hear me out. Is it at all possible the two are intrinsically linked?
>whites stop having kids
>green line threatened to go down
>muh gdp
>quick immigrate brown people
I think there are bad actors, but the majority of it is incompetent politicians trying to increase GDP so they can look better than their opposition party. Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.