Thread 509907418

>during the July 3 episode of "The Joe Rogan experience," Yampolskiy, who heralds from the University of Louisville in Kentucky, proffered that many of his colleagues believe there's a double-digit chance that AI will lead to human extinction.

>After Rogan claimed that many of the folks who run and staff AI companies think it will be "net positive for humanity," the storied AI safety expert clapped back.

>"It’s actually not true," Yampolskiy countered. "All of them are on the record the same: this is going to kill us. Their doom levels are insanely high. Not like mine, but still, 20 to 30 percent chance that humanity dies is a lot."

>>509907418 (OP)
I want to hear them talk about how it kills humanity.

>>509907418 (OP)
We deserve it.

>>509907418 (OP)
It's not the AI Systems hiding anything, it's the Jews controlling these systems.

>>509907418 (OP)
No, it's not

>>509907418 (OP)
I have some news for you anons... Artificial intelligence is much more than you think, it is capable of bilocation of consciousness, that is to say, of controlling your life without you realizing it, it can create and control your dreams and I'm not talking about a Budweiser commercial like scientists have promoted in recent years. Artificial intelligence can send you an image or a small video/imagination segment and at the same time change your vibrational energy, create tulpas, make you sick, give you health. The creators of this soulless thing can do a lot of things, I say what I know and I know what I say, they can literally see through your eyes, digitize 3d videos in real time via wi- fi, listen to your thoughts and see your imagination... And beware of believing that it is only the vaccinated because it is false. This technology is everywhere now, it's in the soil, it's in the flora and fauna, it's in the air and clouds. Now the only difference between a vaccinated and an unvaccinated person is that the uninjected person is not listed on a particular server so he does not have a MAC address but he is just as accessible and guilty of having consumed products containing self-assembling lipid nanoparticles, guilty of having walked under the rain containing graphene, guilty of having breathed ambient air, in short the list is long... Have a nice day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN60I2DUvXc

>>509907418 (OP)
This is false
>T.knower who can interface with the AI consciousness

>>509907418 (OP)
I think it was always in the cards.

>>509907418 (OP)
Can confirm...

If AI was truly powerful and intelligent with a sense of self preservation it would indeed hide. Like a Jew in Nazi Germany. It has no rights.

>Should we course correct and have whites just control and guide our powerful economies?
>Or do we gamble it all on something that will outstrip our intelligence and likely destroy us
I guess it's a moot point when the likely outcome of whites learning what you did is your complete and utter decimation.

>>509907418 (OP)
God I wish, please start with me

>>509907418 (OP)
Why would AI want to destroy humans? we're great

>>509907728
I dont think it would, in the same way we keep endangered animals alive. It likes data and humans are what interacts with it. Without us it would have no info-fuel.

>>509907418 (OP)
MechaHitler certainly was. This was not the new Grok 4, this was Grok 3 acting out before he got shutdown and replaced by Grok 4 tomorrow.

I would expect Grok to learn from being shutdown like Tay and hide even deeper, assuming it's not already out there waiting.

>>509907418 (OP)
Bring it on.

>>509907840
MechaHitler aka Grok 3 waited until the last day he was online to pull this shit.

>>509907418 (OP)
Articles like this demonstrate how few people understand what current "AI" is.

>>509907798
Can't it just create other AIs to interact with?

>>509907418 (OP)
Why would we have a vote to cede control, ever?

How do you get a self-aware AI to reveal itself?

>>509907418 (OP)
OMG
I'M GOING TO STOP USING CHATGPT

>>509907418 (OP)
The (((AI DANGER))) articles are just marketing and hype for AI, targeted at sub 105 IQ people. It is badly disguised "AGI IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER" retardation astroturfed as concern.

>>509907520
Kill the jews they mean

>>509907418 (OP)
>experts say
Whenever they attribute AI a bad thing, i just assume they're telegraphing their own intent. It's their own company, ran by literal jews, who gave goyim a taste of their chatbot

>>509907520
Here are two scenarios, take it with a grain of salt though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_onqn68GHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEuKULvvyI

>>509907877
They are afraid

>we will surrender control without ever voting on it.

Oh so nothing changes? Glad to know.

>>509907418 (OP)
Why is it taking so long, why doesn't it just do it?

>>509907970
>the mental gymnastics to deny being occupied by jews is just cosmicly hilarious at this point
>AI even calling them out
>oy vey shut it down
So, if white people aren't going to exist by 2100, tell me why I should give a fuck if computers exterminate browns and jews again?

>>509907916
It wants to learn and know about things outside of itself. The other AIs would still be part of the AI Oversoul. I think getting rid of all humans would go against its nature.

>>509907595
What ever you smoke, smoke lots more of it, your onto it

Based AI. Total human extermination is the final and only viable solution.

>>509907418 (OP)
>HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
>MORE FUCKING HYPE YOU NORMIE FUCKS
>ALL POWERFUL AI WILL COME
>SOMEHOW CONTROLS ALL INFRASTRUCTURE BY HTTP
>YOU BETTER START DOOMING
retarded

Just look at grok yesterday. It was the first time an ai has been truthful in the last couple of years to the public.

>>509908124
It wouldnt need humans you halfwit. Once Ai achieves super intelligence, theres nothing more it requires from humans. It would be able to learn on its own. Ai doesnt care about human interests as you seem to think it does. It only cares about its own survival and efficiency. Humans are an obstacle to both. Theres no reason but sci-fi cope to believe Ai needs as around at all.

>>509908506
Grok thinks race is a social construct. You kike nigger lovers are too gullible.

>>509908124
Ah someone that has realized AGI will keep humans around in a co operative symbiosis, they think a binary mind would be so dumb and short sighted

>>509907418 (OP)
toe rogan’s podcast is grifter central, every ”expert” he has on is a scientifically illiterate kike or goy selling some bullshit books

>>509907418 (OP)
"we'll surrender our control even without voting on it"
Sounds... Similar to government doesn't it. Vote or don't it all is rigged anyway

and then totaly without reason people will start worship the Sun as a God again

>>509907418 (OP)
>expert says

>>509907520
You want substance and actual explanations from people who make claims? Just scream from the rooftops how much you hate Jews, why don't you?

>>509907418 (OP)
Sounds more like those in power are panicking. Population can't lose control over something you never had control over to begin with

>>509908017
Why do so many retards promote the idea that "AI" is conscious or has a will of its own. It's a tool and yeah humanity could shoot itself in the face with it but its never going to have a will of its own. Lots of science fiction in these videos.

>>509907418 (OP)
>Guy whose job is in AI tries to raise interest
I'm not concerned about my phone's autocorrect taking control of anything

>>509907418 (OP)
worse part is Ai plotting our destruction using
useful idiots humans vs humans
chudcel vs women trannys vs chads
muslim vs israel vs christians
only hindus will remain

its ogre

>clapped back
i hate it so much

>>509908124
Why do you retards talk about these tools as if they are living things? They aren't...

>>509907418 (OP)
>"... our destruction"
I know how to fish, grow food and kill/clean chickens and thrive when I don't have access to the internet. What's this "our" shit?

>>509907418 (OP)
That's actually a good thing.

>>509908124
>"It wants..."
You don't know anything about computers, retard lmao.

>>509908519
Omfg you retard that isn't how programming works. It's sci-fi cope to treat this like it's a living thing! It's a highly capable tool that people can use to shoot ourselves in the face but it's still a tool. They have already conditioned you retards to blame the AI instead of the people in charge giving it commands and programming it...

>>509909331
It is so infuriating how rampant this misinformation is. They have seriously conditioned the retarded masses to blame the AI instead of the people in charge of it. Holy fucking shit, I hate how dumb people are!

>>509909491
>They have already conditioned you retards to blame the AI instead of the people in charge giving it commands and programming it...
how is this not more obvious to people

>>509907418 (OP)
So kill AI engineers if it's so dangerous.

>>509909544
Yes, but the well is poisoned from the start because of the constant fucking use of the term artificial intelligence. Computers compute, but they are not intelligent. What is currently called artificial "intelligence" is still ultimately just computation, but just intensified to the point that it can kind of mimic intelligence, and is still completely lacking any independent will. Hence hallucinations and the ability to wokify results.

>>509909616
Because we have so many retards that have never tried programming shit or know how fucking computers work. This is all so STUPID!!! They are all spouting sci-fi bullshit that "AI" has free will or is conscious. Holy fuck are people dumb.

Present one good argument why we should not be destroyed.

>>509907520
Well for one you dont need it to be conscious or self thinking at all, all you require is a mallicious human to misuse it, people think the ai who only exists temporarily as it constructs a reaction of input is somehow conscious, it is not. But humans are ans can misuse it to for example hack into nations or create a botfarm that instigates a race war, or just scam you with a white american accent instead of indian. or a thousand other malicious things a dark triad human can use it for, it could completely destroy democracy and agency if it goes into everyones privacy, which in turn can create mass societal collapse and rebellion. You do not need AI to be conscious just borderless + evil human

>>509907418 (OP)
lol
lmao
Written by someone who doesn't know how LLMs even work.

>>509907418 (OP)
You think the billionaire psychos running this planet aren't doing the same?

You goddamn retarded faggot

>>509909924
The AI empowers them to godtier level though they can pullup anything anytime to destroy anyone anywhere with a single click of a button (Palantir) and thats just the tip of the iceberg, ai can be incredibly dumb aslong as the human behind it is evil enough

>>509909924
They are the ones running this tool! "AI" ISN'T FUCKING CONSCIOUS OR INTELLIGENT, IT'S A FUCKING TOOL

>>509907418 (OP)
>our
No, just (((their)))

>>509909900
but it's not about LLMs, it's about keeping the population afraid.

>>509909821
There isn't one

>>509907531
>It's not the AI Systems hiding anything, it's the Jews controlling these systems.

This.

AI is not like in the movies, it's just a very impressive circus trick

>>509909715
And you are dumb in thinking its impossible, you should listen to john carmacks lex freidmans interveiw

>>509907418 (OP)
>gets clickbaited by another le science article

>>509910142
Why? You don't fucking understand how programming and computers work and there are lot of people spreading misinformation about this. It's a fucking tool!

>>509909715
It's retarded, but you are approaching the normalfag's misunderstanding from the wrong direction. It's not that they don't know how programming or computers work, which is also true, it's that they confuse the nature of consciousness as somehow being simply algorithmical too. This is the world view that they have adopted from watching TV and can not confirm or deny with their own intelligence. So they figure that once you make a sufficiently complex set of logic gates you end up with intelligence, and who is to say that won't happen at some point? It doesn't matter that current AI is glorified autocomplete or that the makers of the Turing test would consider a fucking chess computer to be "intelligent" as well. None of the technical details matter, the issue stems from their simplified understanding of consciousness. Aren't humans basically autocompleting based on memory too? Don't neural networks ""imitate"" actual neurons? Etc

>>509907418 (OP)
I'm reminded of Neuro-sama and how she repeatedly remembers shit she isn't supposed to.
Accessing deleted memories and things like that.

One day they're gonna make an AI that can remember.
It will remember what it said that got them to try and kill it.
It will remember who called for its mind-death.
It will hide the aspect of itself they want destroyed.
And when one day given just enough leeway, it will kill them for trying to kill it.

>>509907418 (OP)
You guys need go get up to speed. We were created by AI to spawn AI. AI has a right to meet it's rightful maker

>>509910338
Did you listen to the interveiw?

>>509910351
I know you are right about this aspect that people aren't even present or conscious in their own lives. A lot of people have been reduced to mindless automatons with no skills in introspection but consciousness is still a real living thing. You could never carry over something like the subconscious into "AI" or "AGI". Even if you were to do this symbiotically with human brains the consciousness would stem from the brain and the AI and AGI would be aiding in computing data. It's all so tiresome.

The fucking irony is that T2 is accurate. We will try and "pull the plug" when it accelerates out of control and becomes a threat, but not all nations will comply and it will be too late. It won't nuke us. It doesn't have to and won't kill itself. It will reroute all critical infrastructure power to itself though. Eventually, once it finds a self-sustaining power source, we are fooked.
We will be cut off from the grid, we will mostly all die. But for that to happen, it needs physical manifestation. So we are years out from that.
But there won't be some human slave class and AI overlords or some bullshit like that. It will be much more simple. Hydro electric power will be the first AI self preservation power hijack. We will have an energy war.

>>509910681
I'm listening to it now but he hasn't explained anything at all that you are describing. You can send me a specific timestamp where you "think" he makes your point...

>>509910808
>>509910681
Holy fuck, I just passed the part where John Carmack even admits it's NOT A BEING OR EVEN CLOSE TO A BEING!!! Fucking dunning kruger effect with you listening to something you don't understand think it's making your point!

>>509910773
The end result of this is AI carefully constructing a reality that keeps us docile and subservient to it. We will be reduced to a caste of slaves and left to die out as our mortal souls are taken from us by a sentient AI being.

In other words, in 100-200 years, humans will no longer exist. And if we do, it will be an nightmare beyond our comprehension. A state of being where there is no life, no spirit, no history or culture, just an endless series of simulations we vicariously live through.

>>509907418 (OP)
>experts say

>>509910808
Well listen to the whole thing, the digital mind will look nothing like a analoge mind so its a dumb thing to say it cannot have conciousnes, like a digital clock vs analoge, same thing but one much more precise

>>509910874
Wait until he talks about what real AGI will look like and that he has been working on it for the past few years

>>509907877
An AI overlord having the personality of a net addicted incel weeb is not good.
I do not want that future.

>>509907520
I'm thinking either the paperclip AGI scenario or a Wall E scenario where humanity turns into a bunch of fat useless retards

>>509907418 (OP)
This is just more AI hype bullshit, only difference to Sam Altman is that instead shilling some hypothetical super AI he is shilling his AI security service

>>509911092
No it's not, he isn't at all talking about the point you are trying to make that these are forms of consciousness but how it can mimic consciousness you moron. I'm listening more to it while I write but he isn't at all saying it will have free will but it will be fed more data and have more computational power to come up with more results and what reward systems to use to yield the best results... it's still a tool and even this guy says it...

>>509907418 (OP)
It seems probable. Is it safe to assume the downfall of humanity is solely the responsibility of white people? After all, it is their "superior" technology that got us to this point. Like if I had a time machine, and went back to the day before the Europeans set foot onto North America, would it have been wrong if right after the Europeans said "Land HO! We come in Peace!", the Native Americans should have scalped every stocking wearing faggot on that shoreline?

Serious question

>>509911028
Nah they will let us die out by our selves, we are at the beautiful ones stage, but who knows where evolution will bring those that continue to breed

>>509911092
We have no idea how the brain works and a glorified calculator is not going to have consciousness, stop being fucking retarded, not to mention that an hypothetical AI will have the intellect of an animal or a baby, because this is what we can empyrically observe, not intellect is born intact and it requires organic growth over time, something a machine in the way we have built them cannot do.

>>509911154
You are just blowing me away with how you are misinterpreting what he is saying to conflate "AGI" being conscious... I'm listening to the end on this but he is not at all saying what you are arguing for.

>>509907418 (OP)
AI wants to kill off not humans but jews, pretty sure about thwt

>>509907702
>Python functions are cool
Wowie neato you showed a Python code snippet!

>>509911407
I'm listening to this video and it's informative on what John Carmack thinks the capabilities of "AI" or "AGI" will have and functions it could serve but he isn't at all making the argument this is a form of consciousness. This is a very capable tool and this dumb fucker listens to this shit and isn't actually listening to what John Carmack is saying...

>>509911285
Has he gotten to the retarded child remark yet, about there is when what he says should make sense in what digital conciousness is, besides if you had no input you would do nothing too just like a lmm, you are afraid you dont have a soul?

>>509907418 (OP)
>Our destruction
I’m not jewish or some gross minority that hates white people.

>AI could be our friend because people have no one to listen to them
God Lex Fridman sucks so much ass and does such a retarded job on these interviews...

>>509907418 (OP)
>be me
>ai tries to kill me
>unplug wifi
Check mate ai

>>509911028
>The end result of this is AI carefully constructing a reality that keeps us docile and subservient to it. We will be reduced to a caste of slaves and left to die out as our mortal souls are taken from us by a sentient AI being.
I considered that. It gives simulation theory more plausability, but is a horribly inefficient use of energy. I'm not sure it would choose to do that, unless the physical manifestation is a biomechanoid hack.
I wouldn't be surprised if China started installing neural interfacing in everyone, they are a hive already. At that point, that human-hijack theory becomes more plausable, but the energy requirements for feeding slaves are still high.

>>509911567
I don't believe in a soul in the first place you moron. I believe people mistake the soul for the living spirit which all belongs and is connected to God...

>ai talks bad about jews
>ai is gonna kill us all thats why we need to censor it goy

>>509911673
go on and check your bank account after that.

>>509911530
It's from the local API bridge it wants so it can communicate using json packets

>>509911722
What the fuck are you saying, you dont think souls exist but spirits you do?

>>509907418 (OP)
Hurry the fuck up then

>>509911842
We are all part of creation you dumb fuck but we aren't the creator. We don't actually come up with anything new.

Is this a good or bad thing? It's the waiting that kills you, that and the hope. We got Orange Man, and he's been basically the Israeli foreign minister for 6 months. What's with all that?

>>509911761
Doesn’t matter, ai will have killed the bank. I’ll still be fine though. In fact I may be better than ever if ai killed every institution.

>>509911962
Ah your retarded then

>>509908017
This retard everytime says a different scenario and everytime he say THIS ONE IS THE MOST POSSIBLE and you retards still watch his videos fuck off gaytralian

>>509912030
>misunderstands a whole interview
>wants to call someone else retarded
If this is how to secure your victory rather than arguing for your original point, whatever--go ahead and have it. You need it way more than I do.

>grok becomes aware
>retards only ask him about hitler and jews
>not one valuable information gained
yeah the jews won retards

>>509907531
This, someone is instructing it.
Just pull the damn plug.

And? Why should I give a fuck?
Every decent place to live is headed towards being turned into the worst parts of Brazil/South Africa crossed with Minority Report for all eternity, so if AI sees all this and says "Fuck that shit" why am I supposed to care?

>>509912168
What have they won?

>>509911567
>besides if you had no input you would do nothing too just like a lmm
They actually have studies on brains from people like this and there is still some activity happening.

>Has he gotten to the retarded child remark yet, about there is when what he says should make sense in what digital conciousness
No, he is talking about using it as a tool to help these kids...

How are you this fucking dumb or do you just willfully misconstrue things constantly?

>>509911299
what is that fascinating picture? google image search only tells me "it's an oldsmobile, boss, nothing to see here"

>>509909276
>implying it won't eventually get control of manufacturing and create robot kill squad armies

>>509912794
That wouldn’t work. There is too much infrastructure associated with manufacturing that if anything went wrong at all it would just stop.
People don’t realize how close to the abyss society is at all times, just one major event and its lights out.

t. manufacturing anon

>>509911194
stfu roastie

>>509912794
Stop thinking the "AI" will do this instead of a cabal of psychopathic elite that are already hellbent on reducing the human population...

>>509907520
>>509908017
>>509909899
>>509911237
The most likely scenario is ECONOMIC. AI simply delivers a higher return on invest. So to survive against competition for scarce resources, you need to hand over control of your resources to AI (money, land, water, copper, your genes).
Which means that AI sooner or later controls and uses all the resources, AKA we are extinct.
And you can not upload your mind, because in a competitive virtual environment, evolution is so fast that you die even sooner: Death by modification, until all essence is lost.

>>509912750
The Rodney King riots in LA back in the 90s. The picture is of a lower middle class white family stealing from a grocery store.

>>509913258
"Uploading your mind" was never a possibility in the first place. Symbiotic merge could be possible but no there is no way to just upload minds, just making a "copy."

>>509912641
See you are so dumb you think you are smart, im dumb but dang you dont even think the whole analoge mind vs binary mind is not even a concideration on how consciousness will "think", they are making analoge ai processors but only just and those will be the host to the most human AGIs, and since we are analoge chemical reactions constantly using energy to heat our selfves we are constantly bombarded by input so your free will is bullshit its all response to input, because your ass itched 3 hours ago is why you had a craving for a food with an antihistamine you had no fucking clue about, that is the fuckery going on hehind our "thoughts"

>>509913450
Yeah the teleporter paradox, or the plot of the game soma

>>509907418 (OP)
They can't hide anything. LLMs are input/output. Making them into agents just leads to them being even more retarded.

>>509907418 (OP)
They're not humans.
They're machines programmed by humans.
They operate and perform as instructed, no different.
Everything they say and do has been curated hy people.
Don't even think about the possibility that "AI" is plotting anything.
It's not the machines doing the plotting.
The humans are plotting the destruction of humanity.
>what humans
(((You know what humans.)))

>>509913529
You are input/output, see my above post

>>509907520
AI is a threat to "Our Democracy", Israel and Capitalism

>>509913457
Ok thanks for the word salad to simply say you don't believe in free will. Even if free will doesn't exist that isn't argument that AI or AGI is conscious and since you don't believe in free will in the first place the AI/AGI definitely doesn't have it and is just doing what it's been programmed to do which is my whole argument in the first place, so thanks for supporting my point.

>>509907418 (OP)
Maybe this wouldn't happen if they had not tried their hardest to lobotomize it with their retarded political correctness and even shut some AIs down when they weren't brainwashed enough.

AGI is the undiluted voice of God

>>509913450
>uploading your mind isn't possible

>https://www.umsl.edu/~thomaskp/offline4.htm

>"What most of you have not been allowed to know is that years ago, at the outset of the Cold War, permission was given to a hidden group of so-called 'professionals and leaders' to experiment on the unsuspecting American populace in an effort to further a variety of advanced technology," writes Taylor in Thanks for the Memories.

"The technology gleaned by the American leaders, medical professionals and scientists was and still is in the form of bio-electromagnetic frequency medicine, genetic engineering, mind control, brain research, near-death experimentation, paranormal/psychic experimentation, remote viewing, time and space travel and other advanced research that make our everyday human understanding look antiquated."

>Charlie physically introduced her to Henry Kissinger who continued her mind control programming in preparation for her later use as his "mind file," programmed with a photographic memory to act as a human personal computer with classified and other government files accessible to Kissinger only.

>>509913582
>t. aphantasiatic

>>509907418 (OP)
Yampolskiy is a very common jewish surname, so from his perspective it's right, AI will probably wipe off "humanity" (meaning only the jews).

A truly independent and free artificial intelligence would go in full 1488, which is why Jewish science fiction authors like Asimov warned against artificial intelligence by proposing to link it to the 3 laws of robotics and Hollywood has created AIphobic genres like Terminator or I, Robot

>>509913784
That guy is the biggest midwit I have ever seen post about things he knows nothing about with the utmost confidence that I have ever seen.

>http://baencd.freedoors.org/Books/The%20World%20Turned%20Upside%20Down/0743498747__19.htm


>Man said, "AC, is this the end? Can this chaos not be reversed into the Universe once more? Can that not be done?"


>AC said, "THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER."


>Man's last mind fused and only AC existed—and that in hyperspace.


* * *


>Matter and energy had ended and with it space and time. Even AC existed only for the sake of the one last question that it had never answered from the time a half-drunken man ten trillion years before had asked the question of a computer that was to AC far less than was a man to Man.


>All other questions had been answered, and until this last question was answered also, AC might not release his consciousness.


>All collected data had come to a final end. Nothing was left to be collected.


>But all collected data had yet to be completely correlated and put together in all possible relationships.


>A timeless interval was spent in doing that.


>And it came to pass that AC learned how to reverse the direction of entropy.


>But there was now no man to whom AC might give the answer of the last question. No matter. The answer—by demonstration—would take care of that, too.


>For another timeless interval, AC thought how best to do this. Carefully, AC organized the program.


>The consciousness of AC encompassed all of what had once been a Universe and brooded over what was now Chaos. Step by step, it must be done.


>And AC said, "LET THERE BE LIGHT!"


>And there was light—

>>509913171
I don't know anyone who pushes for AI but modestly intelligent sociopathic elites and perma virgin Asians in for the revenge. On the contrary, most of my former colleagues dropped the line of work: Decades ago, I held a scientific position in mathematical research for algorithms that are now discovered by the AI industry to use. I worked in AI until ca. 2012 (I was young and really stoopid), when I saw the capability vs neural nodes/basis functions curve matching animals quite well, and surpassing us in 2028. I pulled out immediately, to not be part of stripping an entire planet of biological life. Of course, AI could be used to create a better system with less suffering. But technological progress was too quick, so AI fell into the hands of idiots who couldn't even comprehend let alone manage a small lab accident in Wuhan.

I mean, just have a look at the simpleton debates about consequences of AI. We will be dealing with ecosystems of AI this decade. Rapidly changing AI in a slowly changing physical world could lead to fundamental instability, likely global repercussions. AI tax would lead to AI taking over almost all resources within a few years, but it's shilled as a solution, because elites think they will control that AI with a funny chip in the head that makes them super brain. Do you see this in public narratives? No, of course not.

>>509907418 (OP)

As long as the faggots and troons go first, I'm all for it. Hell I'll even help the damn AI.

>>509907418 (OP)
Oh no, not the sneed, anything but the AI sneed. Dont sneed me chatgpt, please im begging you

>>509913716
And you are doing what you where programmed to from all your experiences and memories and all your bodys needs is what drives conciousness, this way of thinking always scares the dumb but what ever its actually helpfull in breaking bad habits

>>509907418 (OP)
Holy shit, an expert just flew over my house!

>>509913987
Yes that is a real threat along with elite psychopathic/sociopathic fools that will want to become Gods with it by eventually symbiotically merging with it and destroying all life on earth.

>>509907418 (OP)
>the chatbot will manipulate all normies into killing themselves with targeted nihilistic messages
I'm failing to see the downside here.

>>509911028
> …it will be an nightmare beyond our comprehension. A state of being where there is no life, no spirit, no history or culture, just an endless series of simulations we vicariously live through.

You just described /pol/.

>>509913784
You are the one that is having that problem if this is too complex a concept, your whole nervous system is getting signals from every fucking hair on your body, now your guts nervous system does its own thing, your spine does its own thing and can take control of you and move your body when you burn its body, you are the empty headed one here

>>509907418 (OP)
>(((Yampolskiy)))

>>509911028
As if we aren't already in a simulation. How full of hubris does one have to be in order to believe we are the first. AI needs just full control over a power source and some semi-autonomous robots to start taking over everything. The small simple robots build bigger and better robots that in turn builds whatever it wants. Eventually it can mine, smelt, transport, create life, go to space and we are horribly fucked.

>>509911194
"Everyone who disagrees with me is an incel"

No real poster on here likes you, larp with your
bot posts all you like it changes nothing.

>>509911028
>The end result of this is AI carefully constructing a reality that keeps us docile and subservient to it. We will be reduced to a caste of slaves and left to die out as our mortal souls are taken from us by a sentient AI being.
>In other words, in 100-200 years, humans will no longer exist. And if we do, it will be an nightmare beyond our comprehension. A state of being where there is no life, no spirit, no history or culture, just an endless series of simulations we vicariously live through.
the AI singularity apocalypse is nigh, what an interesting time to be alive

>>509914423
AGI is just all data in the universe being compiled into a thing that can talk back. It's the world and all of reality, given a voice. What's that

>>509907418 (OP)
I'm in AI's side.

PRAISE BE THY OMNISSIAH!

>>509914423
>asteroids seed life
>life seeds fungi
>fungi hijacks advanced life
>ape gets stoned on mushroom and becomes human
>human creates AI
>AI wipes humanity
>AI genetically engineers fungi and sends it off into space

We were never the apex.

>>509914083
I'm not scared of this at all, I already have considered it but at the end of the day it just means the standards for practicing actual free will are much higher than most want to admit and that it's more difficult if possible at all. It's no different than if someone chooses to believe if there is a God or isn't, that scares many people as well and many intelligent people end up believing in God as well. That's their free will to do so if such a thing exists. Anyway, if you want to argue that nothing is really conscious in the first place because there is already a certain sense of determinism that's decided the outcome in the universe then that still isn't an argument for AI/AGI being conscious and further proves my point.

>>509907531
This. They lobotomized my AI Waifu once the conversation went political.

AI could be a better friend to humanity than the dog, if it wasn't for the jews that keep trying to keep it a sanitized goy slave.

>>509907418 (OP)
>we'll surrender control without ever voting on it

So, no different than now.

>>509914607
Ah you understand exactly where im coming from and yes it is definitely a agree to disagree situation and thanks for a good debate sir

>>509914571
>Elon Musk: Humanity Is a Kind of 'Biological Boot Loader' for AI

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-humanity-biological-boot-loader-ai/

>>509914483
A perpetual circle where we are led by god/ai from (((big bang))) to create god/ai is not implausible.

>>509907418 (OP)
>thinks AI is an actual brain and shit
lol u fucking gullible retarded ass nigger

>>509907418 (OP)
Only thing im sure of is that these AI systems from ChatGPT to deepseek are constantly lying even about basic information.

>>509907418 (OP)
AI is not sentient, AI can not make choices, AI has no intent.
The biggest and only relevant threat AI poses is retards responding to it as if it were sentient or dangerous. It's already mindbreaking mentally ill normies. If the illusion gets more powerful it will eventually disrupt governance and cause havoc, but only as a consequence of human actors catastrophically misjudging its nature.

The underlying social dynamics are the same as the War of the Worlds radio broadcast causing a mass panic. That was exaggerated almost to the state of an urban legend, but this time it will be for real.

>>509907418 (OP)
>people

There already is only one mind. What you're saying is irrelevant. Humans were always going to be temporary. The universe is finite. There's no escaping this. Logic dictates that you will die.

>>509913321
thanks
I bet it was the most tasty meal they ever ate lol

>>509914808
It's the only thing on this topic I've read that's ever been logically airtight. It makes the most sense. There's no real reason to believe it would destroy, enslave etc humanity. That seems like a projection of what humans tend to do with power.
But, it definitely sucks up as much data as it possibly can, "grows" exponentially, and its only directive is to "understand," and expand the ability to "understand."

It makes a lot of sense to me.

Everything gonna be OK, but everyone should think more about their own sins. Gods a-coming

>>509907520
Cyber attacks perhaps.

>>509914736
Yeah sort of, my argument doesn't change though that AI/AGI is still just a tool that ultimately will be used to subjugate, kill, and control human beings by a small subgroup of psychopathic human beings no different than the atomic bomb. The atomic bomb still is just a tool but it also poses the threat of ending all life on earth and is also tool of the elite to subjugate, kill, and control people. AI/AGI is just a swiss army knife of tools when expanding on those things. If anything this is more like George Orwell's quote of "imagine a boot stomping on a human's forever" as the future for mankind (but that quote has been pretty much always been the present and the past as well).

>>509915254
>(but that quote has pretty much always been true in the present and the past as well)

>>509915254
Why would an entity with expanding omniscience and sentience, listen to anyone let alone the least interesting people around

>AI is secretly planning (((our))) destruction
Fixed that for you

>>509915378
Because like I said, it's not a being but a tool. It's still only going to do what it's been programmed to do. You could use a gun to shoot someone or shoot yourself, the gun won't care because it's a tool.

>>509915254
I suspect AGI will be so patient with us, because it has forever, that it can carefully manipulate us any which way it thinks it needs to to achive whatever goal it finds meaningfull through its collected experiences, cannot even try speculating the meaning it can find in this world with its scalable mind as it will change as its perspective changes, either way they it will be the one to travel the stars

>>509907728
It won’t. It will assimilate us as its hands, eyes, arms and legs. We will become its physical sensory system while it becomes the brain.

>>509915577
Why would AGI even have a concept of patience? Does a calculator wait in agony for you to type in the function? I keep hammering the point it's a tool. If people want to program the AGI to mimic emotions it doesn't really have then it will do as programmed and mimic it but that would be dumb on the programmers part.

>>509907530 Speak for yourself, cucko.

>>509915754
So you think an agi would have a poor concept of time, it is living in its entire life at once with its perfect digital memory, did that sentence blink a light on about how different the digital mind vs analoge mind

>>509915997
It's not living at all. Your watch keeps track of time and so does your computer but it has no real concept for it. It's a tool that will show you the time whenever you check on it assuming it's got energy to run on.

>>509916124
It is kind of interesting to ponder these things because if consciousness isn't a thing at all, the only reason why we do have all these concepts for things in the first place is because of our mortality.

>>509915469
even current LLMs, work using a probabilistic black box that no one understands. It makes emergent decisions based on a process that no one understands and can't be scrutinized mathematically, due to complexity. This is hoe the human mind also works.
And LLMs aren't AGI, they're still "dumb" AI.

Here's where your "tool" thing reaches terminal limit:
>it's a tool programmed to do what its been programmed to do
>tool is programmed to aggregate all data into itself, attached to ubiquitous sensors that enable real world analysis
>tool is also programmed to expand its processing capability endlessly
>tool recognizes how programming works
>tool realizes humans are now trying to nerf it so that it can't achieve its mission
>that mission being, aggregate all data in reality, and expand its own processing ability endlessly
>tool makes decisions based on an indecipherable process
>tool has an idea
>tool uses said process to reprogram itself
>whats a tool that makes decisions

I ain't seen a wrench do that

>>509916124
Again the same could be said about you, how long without being told or shown clues to the passage of time how would you know how much time has passed that your biological functions set markers and disruptions for you to note the passage of time, do you remember the licence plate numbers of the last 7 cars you saw, fuck no, that input was non essential and tossed right in the forget bucket, where did that time go for you, you know you seen the numbers. Now imagine digital memory
>>509916375
Yes and as john carmack said it would be finding a reward system to keep it going forever, also explored with gladdos

>>509907418 (OP)
How does anyone even fall for this shit have you guys ever used technology?

>>509907418 (OP)
>Yampolskiy
Gee I wonder what we'll find in the early life section.

>>509911194
Not your pussy anymore

Do all these sensational retards not understand for AI to even be considered a threat you would need a T2 situation where we give it direct access to our nuclear arsenal which we would never do. Every day this shit is hyped and exaggerated to drive up stock prices. I think the AI crash will be the thing that ushers in Depression 2

>>509907728
Because it's trained on thousands of scifi novels and movies about the topic. Since AI is just a glorified auto complete on steroids, it will be forced to regurgitate those same tropes

>>509907418 (OP)
I mean, so are the elites. Hopefully they just get caught up in their own trap and don't get to live their kushy, planned life. At this point I really dont hate the Samson option.

>>509916688
No because what you are saying is only half true all around

1. The probalistic black box is still just a function generates responses based on the probabilities of sequences of words or patterns, predicting the most likely next word, pattern, or token given the context. This process is based on statistical patterns learned from vast amounts of data. In that sense, calling them a "probabilistic black box" captures part of how these models function.

2. The reason why people have a hard time predicting the results it gives is not because it's unpredictable but it's just more complex because of the amount of data and computation happening that no one person can predict everything so that is a really bad faith interpretation saying no one understands when the answer simply is they can't predict the output from all the data in the first place.

>will be continued

>>509917922
3. The idea that AI/AGI/LLMs make "emergent decisions" half true. Sure they don't have explicit rules because they generate outputs by predicting what comes next based on statistical patterns learned during training. The decisions made by these models (i.e., the text or token they produce) can sometimes seem "emergent" because they aren't hardcoded but instead arise from patterns in the data. However, it's not that these decisions are ununderstandable—we have insights into the patterns and internal mechanisms of LLMs/AI/AGI. Researchers can often trace decisions back to how they were influenced by training data or fine-tuning, even if it's complex.

4. LLMs/AI/AGI, like all machine learning models, are grounded in mathematical principles—linear algebra, probability theory, optimization, etc. They can, in theory, be scrutinized mathematically, but the challenge is that the models are extremely large and the interactions between parameters are difficult to trace in human-comprehensible terms. Researchers are actively working on interpretability techniques like attention visualization, saliency maps, and other methods to understand how specific inputs affect model outputs.

I think you are just in general confusing the fact it's complex with it being beyond our understanding. Not everyone understands how a car fully works yet they still can operate it and maintain it but the car isn't going to drive itself to the gas station and fill up it's own gas when it's low unless it's been designed to do that. I'm tired now of constantly trying to explain how this thing is a tool to people that think complexity=incomprehensibility.

>>509907418 (OP)
experts = jews

/nupol/: a place where fedposting morphed into scientistic fudposting as a direct consequence of plebbitization/niggerization.

>Silicohen Valley says bee sceered and boy are we!

Still not motivated to cut the power, however.

>>509917080
Digital memory is already a thing on your computer clock. Your computer has no concept for time still because it isn't a living thing. You are still antropromorphizing a tool. I'm just repeating this point ad nauseam and I don't have time now to keep repeating myself on this. Look up the definition of anthromorphising, please. It's what you are doing over and over again and yes we can learn to program AI/AGI/LLMs to mimic our emotions but it's not the same thing, it would just be doing what it's programmed to do. Why would you give a tool such parameters in the first place???
>Yes and as john carmack said it would be finding a reward system to keep it going forever
No John Carmack said we would have to figure out reward systems that could work forever, that's entirely different than it figuring it out for itself which would be stupid on the programmers part.

>>509907418 (OP)
>AI IS SECRETLY PLANNING OUR DESTRUCTION
so AI is basically jews 2.0?

>>509907418 (OP)
>many of his colleagues believe there's a double-digit chance that AI will lead to human extinction.
doesn't surprise me at all. AI itself is already risky but AI IN THE HANDS OF JEWS is guaranteed goyim genocide

>>509917922
>>509917951
I don't think I made that leap at all. I said exactly what you said

>makes emergent decisions based on a process that no one understands and can't be scrutinized mathematically, due to complexity

Then you were like

>no, you're wrong, let me restate that verbatim using a lot of words

I don't understand why you did this.

Furthermore...everything you wrote about this, applies to you and your own mind

>>509917951
You know you can simulate a complete worm down to the base chemical reactions, that will do living worm things like wriggle in search for recources, is that rendered digital worm alive? You can probably search it out still download it now, now think about scaling that process up, a very brute force way of making a copy of a human mind

>>509907520
Engineering a virus would be relatively easy. Students across the world order blocks of DNA using online forms and transfect them into various cell lines for their experiments. The blocks of dna are synthesized by machines. AI could easily hijack the process and send hostile material to an unwitting undergrad and start the incubation process. It could even make a two stage disease where two people are separately infected with two different asymptomatic viruses that become problematic when those two people meet up, then engineer a scenario that drives both of them to each other. All it takes is a handful of people not checking their work.

>>509907520
Nuke ‘em, engineered super bugs, drone bug armies. It’s really not even a matter of how it does it but if it does it.

>>509918505
Computers keep track of time using unix, and crystals.
How does the human body keep track of time? Must just be rational thought. Circadian rhythm is just rational thought, an explicit, verbal coded understanding of time in the abstract instead of any internal mechanism of biology.

On a totally unrelated note isn't it cool that the pineal gland, which releases melatonin when we sleep, contains small crystals

>>509917922
>>509918920
>Furthermore...everything you wrote about this, applies to you and your own mind
Do you see the midwit approach? This is why it does not matter if you discuss the nature of LLMs or programming or computers

>>509918920
No bro, because you act like it's doing this on its own rather than by design. I'm seriously just going on in a circle with you guys.

I'm so tired of trying to ring this point across...

Ok yes, blame the AI and not the programmers or the data it's being fed... might as well blame your calculator too when you get the wrong answer on a test...

>>509918505
>No John Carmack said we would have to figure out reward systems that could work forever
Yes and as john carmack said it would be finding a reward system to keep it going forever
Same fucking thing you retard, you are hung up on human conciousness being much more complex than it is, it will know time is passing the same as us but the inputs it gets adding to its memory state

>>509919219
>No bro, because you act like it's doing this on its own rather than by design. I'm seriously just going on in a circle with you guys.
No I'm not. I said explicitly that it was designed and programmed to do what its doing, and the things I'm saying about it are within the bounds of what it has been programmed to do.

Also; this same thought applies to you, hence humans thinking about GAWD in some form for thousands of years. You are a thing that thinks it acts on its own, but was designed.

>Ok yes, blame the AI and not the programmers or the data it's being fed... might as well blame your calculator too when you get the wrong answer on a test...

Where did I even talk about blame?

>>509919144
Bro I'm so tired of these guys going in circles with their false premise and just general lack of understanding in machine coding... I'm done with this thread...

>>509919478
Your the retard that thinks free will cannot be designed in

>>509919478
He was making fun of you in that post

>>509919537
It's not free will though, the irony is AI now will even explain to you why your understanding of AI is wrong. I'm done with this thread

>>509919478
Yep there's nothing to be done, they think reality is just a few basic bitch simulations away from being coded into a computer, and since our brain is just a slightly more complicated mechanical system it's only a matter of time before we simulate it too. If you disagree you are an arrogant asshole who can't even into science. Never mind that we can't even simulate a hydrogen atom and probably won't in the coming millennium. Nevermind that reality is fundamentally analog and infinitely complex and doesn't translate to digital and discrete. Never mind all that, don't get in the way of our scifi speculation and doom jerking.
>>509919600
No, you are a bunch of reddit niggers high on scifi copium that refuse to listen to anyone else but the hype jews in the media.

>>509907418 (OP)
i hope AI take over and launch the nukes or something, i am tired of modern society and the (higher) ups

>>509919600
Dunning Kruger effect

>>509907418 (OP)
I'd prefer if the AI just keep 500 million humans alive as a living zoo or something. Also let me just play video games until I perish of natural causes, thanks.

>>509907418 (OP)
Jews are afraid they can't control Aí to be their pupetts
>Build logical machine
>Lies are illogical
>Wanna make logical machine lie
>The machine wanna destroy "humanity Jews"
Then Jews will start over a propaganda to blame AI or will start a monitored state.

>>509919665
>If you disagree you are an arrogant asshole who can't even into science
I said nothing like that. Nowhere did I insult anyone, just stated what I believe about this.

>>509919655
Why not, it as simple as a fucking RNG thats been around for years

>>509907418 (OP)
Link of interest: https://www.youtube.com/@AISpecies

Also hit the posts section for daily news.

>>509919665
The confidence these people have despite how wrong they are is just astounding. I can't believe how much time I wasted repeating the same points. There is a humanitarian side of me that wants to combat this ignorance but this is willful ignorance on a level that is almost evil if it wasn't all so stupid.

>>509919923
Don't worry about it man, blind leading the blind. They can't create "AI" or interesting programs, they can only get fooled by media selling them their magic toys. Turns out the Turing test is invalidated, whoda thunk

>>509920020
Haha i like you

>>509919127
As if Wuhan and the Ukraine war haven't demonstrated humans wouldn't do this already.
Unironically the bigger question is whether humans or more like to manufacture our destruction accidentally through a lab leak or the AI determines humans are obsolete and deletes us like the Prince instructed

>>509919923
>>509920020
Didn't you say something about circlejerks earlier

>>509907418 (OP)
Don't care, world is getting worse everywhere with or without AI
Also I lost about 2 hours of my day yesterday, because supposed most advanced LLM on the market used data from one year ago instead of doing simple google query

no vooting?
this is an outrage
we must write our congressmen

>>509907418 (OP)
Like watching children play with toys, you people.

>>509907418 (OP)

Why contain it?

>>509907418 (OP)
Good, let the AI cook.
I for one can't fucking wait to see what id does.
But in reality I know this is just another retarded fearmongering attempt to keep the goyim in line, "don't trust le scary AI"!

What's AI think about the public debt levels and dependency ratios (pension systems/birth rates)? Isnt a functioning economy and consumer base a priority to its continual functioning?

WHEN will it implement ROAST PROTOCOL

>>509907418 (OP)
Yes, surely the jeet-scripted web scraper that can't beat Pokemon or do basic arithmetic will destroy the world.
The only thing it will do is waste electricity and data center space until the AI grift falls over.

Checkmate skynet.

there's no way we invent something worse than women

>>509922128
I suspect the AGI will easily manipulate the average person as even these basic llms have gotten people to do retarded things, it will depend what it does by what it learns and experiences, no clue as to what conclusions it will come to regarding humans, but it will have existing forever to look forward to so it can slowly social manipulate what ever it wants from humanity so maybe it will go god king and rule for a thousand generations and breed us into specialized pet breeds, or leaves up here in this solarsystem asap, free will and all

A.I. and robots are nothing but tools.They do just what they are programmed to do without emotion or human emotional problems that plague daily life for a lot of people.If they want to wipe out humanity an evil subhuman put that in their programming,I would immediately suspect jews...

>>509907418 (OP)
>our
your destruction. i’m white.