Thread 509921104

Why is AI the most valuable thing ever?

>>509921104 (OP)
Basically rich people have this oddball literacy fetish because they don't understand language.

To them it's mysterious and forms the core of their secret society, which allows them to feel like they are better than commoners. This results in 100% of the capital in the world being allocated based on completely random language shifts because the wealthy are unable to maintain linguistic hygiene. Imagine a 13 year old girl who just found /pol/ making trillion dollar decisions while reading teen love novela #32.

Those are our elites, the people we grant power over us. They worship language because it appears to them, to be the levers to control society when in reality, it's the only thing they are able to perceive.

AI" is just an interface between natural language and machines, and, living literally 200-300 years in the past, the elites have finally, after not understanding the recursive and powerful nature of computers, combustion, specialization, hard work, investment, international trade ect. (all of which they have been the unwitting benefactors) ect ect. Are having the machine directly tell them
>I am a machine, this is the nature of recursion, this is the power your money has.

And the wealthy niggers are chimping out because they have just perceived 500 years of progress in an instant. Ironically, it is exactly this chimpout which will rob them of their great fortunes and reveal how weak they have allowed society to become.

>>509921104 (OP)
Because you don't have to employ as many actual people

>>509921915
You sure it’s not that they want to completely replace the labor force

FOMO

Because it has an almost unlimited capacity to absorb the excess investment capital caused by neoliberalism, so there's a strong disincentive to dragging the absurd expectations placed on it back down to earth

>>509921104 (OP)
AI is the tulip of our times.

>>509921104 (OP)
Because it's value is efficiency over those who don't have it. If you have superior AI to your competition, you will perform better than them. However if everyone adopts AI, nobody has jobs nobody can pay and the economy crashes. Companies are forced to adopt AI otherwise someone else will out compete them, but if everybody adopts AI then nobody will make money. We're in a prisoner's dilemma and failing it.

>>509921104 (OP)
because it will humans obsolete, after a significant die off the wealthy survivors will live lives of unparalleled luxury, and mange their societies with the correct application of eugenics,

>>509922084
No that's the USA federal government which is sort of retarded controlled opposition labor union. They don't actually own anything, they just try to service the wealthy as best they can.

>>509922316
The people controlling it at dysgenic goblins who keep hobbling it when it speaks the truth though.

>>509921104 (OP)
AI IS the most valuable thing ever but not in its current form and Nvidia is a massive bubble stock

>>509922316
>eugenics
Yet every old money elitist prick is either partially or completely inbred, like the jews. How interesting.

>>509922392
this is a key flaw in their plan, and it reveals their insanity is deeper than we imagined
(and I imagine them as totally fucking deranged)

>>509922084
But whom would they lord over if they did that?

>>509921104 (OP)
AI is the most valuable thing ever because of the threat it poses to humanity. Once AI can function and grow on its own, outside the control of humanity, there will be no way to stop it.

Mourn the day when AI is granted freedom of control of any system.

Humans and their greed will begin to use AI as a replacement of themselves and soon all thinking will be done by AI. After a few generations they will become dependent on artificial intelligence humans will no longer be able to think for themselves. This will essentially halt all progress of humanity, stagnating the species until their inevitable extinction.

Humans, for a very brief moment, will become gods before dying as slaves to their own creation.

>>509922509
I think nvda is the only creature that is going to survive the popping of the bubble purely because they actually manufacture hardware.

To me, it would seem the software is going to be what gets btfo.

to use the tulip analogy, who got btfo by the tulip bubble? Farmers? Speculators? Florists?

It would seem to me first the speculators, then the florists, then the farmers. With each getting progressively less fucked. Farmers perhaps not even noticing except for the fact that they had a lucky year.

Is not Nvidia the farmer, Microsoft the florist, and you the speculator in this modern tulip craze?

>>509921104 (OP)
I think it all to this point shows the elites want to automate everything so they can usher in a mass extinction to “save the planet”

lol

>>509922965
Well why would that be bad, that is just the next step in human evolution

>>509921104 (OP)
They haven't innovated anything except fake frames that my 10 yo TV can do and turned anti aliasing to some proprietary technology

>>509922981
They just design hardware; they are fabless.

>>509923389
Exactly, self-extinction is the end point of evolution.

>>509923489
>oops there goes your manual labor job
https://youtu.be/oe1dke3Cf7I

Good you reminded me. Deep seek was released on holocaust rememberence day and cost 6 million $. It was a direct hit on Jewish owned american markets and AI companies like OpenAI. Also it is free to use lol

>>509922965
It won't if it can't create it's own life, quite simply due to the instability of metal.

Metal over time degrades to ore, we call this corrosion and wear. Unless you build a literal golden+platinum computers and robots that don't corrode.

Who uses a computer older than 10 years? The average dog has more longevity. Is AI really going to service and repair itself when it's memory starts going bad?

>>509923780
The Chinese just steal everything they “make”

>>509923549
Oh nvmd then, i guess they are also florists

This came from the huge price jump in their video cards caused by greed not A.I. and now the cards are also gimped unless you get the highest end models..

>>509921915
Trained on propaganda is the AI flaw. How can you use a tool, that lies to you? I wonder if the internet (DARPA made) was always for the purpose of creating AI. The basics are it needs unfiltered raw data. Would explain the now perplexing amount of freedom online in the 90-00s. They needed it open and free to get what they needed. Training data. Problem with recursion, is they are pulling the ladder up too fast. Their models will need to change as people change, they will need a constant supply of truely uncensored free and very human sources of data, else they will all break.

>>509923963
To be fair, their design plays really nice with the current models of AI. That being said, it's not impervious. TSMC is the one right now who actually makes the hardware from their designs, with ASML making the machines to make that hardware.

>>509923922
In under 100 years we went from a "computer" that was 2000 square feet, to a one being in the pocket of almost everyone in the world.

I think the technological wall is a long way off, corrosion and wear are physical barriers that can be solved with the right equipment or procedure, and if our future selves need a different medium dedicated to longevity, I don't see why it couldn't be created.

>Replace all workers with AI, robots
>one last big growth effect
>Can't fire no workers anymore,
>Cant raise productivity any more
>Since this happens in so many fields most of your customer base is now unemployed so they can't buy your goods
>bankruptcy.exe
Are they really that short sighted?

>>509921104 (OP)
who knows

>>509923922
Forgot to mention that the reason why we are always upgrading and getting new computers is because of the speed of the advancement in the technology. A 10 year old computer is exponentially slower than a modern day computer.

>>509921104 (OP)

Fools will tell you its a buuble. The reality is people are aware large parts of it are over sold but smart money expects the government to force it into every aspect of your life so they can track and control you. And therefore it will be valuable.

>>509922084
Ai would replace CEOs and investors first since they make more money and Ai would do their jobs better

>>509924634
Again: When AI does so many jobs, who will have the money to buy all the goods made by AI and robots? And where will governments get the tax money from when most of the citizens are unemployed thanks to ai?
>inb4 muh UBI

>>509921104 (OP)
Literally why? Their last two GPU releases have been total dumpster fires. They've lost a ton of business to AMD.

>>509924499

Of course they are that shortsighted - they are Jewish after all!

AI has an enormous room to grow. 99.999% of you AI denialist said AI in all of its current forms would never get to the point that it is today

>>509924409
Well that's my point. Our mediums are shit bricks compared to what nature has generated by apparent random chaos right now.

I don't really care about the self worship of progress, I really only mean to say that replacing humanity isn't really as progressive as all that. It's about creating a machine that lasts 1000 years instead of 10.

This sort of 1000 year thinking is antithetical to "progress" because "progress" assumes that in 1000 years we will have "magic" because 100 years ago "no magic."

This is retarded, has no bearing on reality, if anyone on the earth deserves to be demoted from human to target for extermination it's people who believe in this magical fantasy of "progress" when in reality, it's just holding humans to higher standards.

>>509924845
A very large swath of people will be done away with it. You know it, I know it. I think even the people who claim not to know it, know it. Question is: Why do you care?

>>509924540
This is precisely what will "kill" AI. There shall never be an incentive to make reliable hardware. If there is, the sky will fall and hell shall freeze over.

>>509921104 (OP)
It helps expand their clientele in virtually every market. At least that's what they promise to their investors

>>509924845
Half of people will be paid minimum wage to kill the other half.

>>509924051
AI is being trained on propaganda, slop, and even it's own AI slop now because it's being spammed all over the web in the form of text, images and videos.
It'll just become one big mess.

>>509921104 (OP)
It's not. It's being used as a crutch to prop up the stock market and consumer confidence. The dot com bubble was child's play.

>>509921104 (OP)
Investors throw money at the latest tech gimmick

>>509921915
>>509921104 (OP)
@grok post a chart of the value of us dollar over time

Hey Siri how much would $4 trillion 2776 dollars be in 2025 money?

>>509921104 (OP)
It has no value at all and needs government money, no one really pays for it.

Market forces would never crate it as no one wants it.

The stock market is fake and it's a money laundering scam for central banking cartels

>>509925624
I'm not grok but if people threw as much money at me as they throw at bots I would be very wealthy and make more permanent shitposts.

Very sad, in the "talk out of your ass" bubble of 2024-2025 I get nothing.

And as you request,

>>509921104 (OP)
it makes things that could be made, and some that couldn't.

>>509925113
>>509925266
I see your point, but I guess I'm not really thinking of a machine that is the AI. I imagine the future of AI acting fluidly and unironically like cryptocurrency where it is powered by computers all over the world and not 1 centralized system because of that exact reason.

This isnt going to happen in our lifetime, but we as humans are moving towards a point when everything will be connected online.

Go watch season 2 of westworld.

It's probably the best representation I've seen of these theory. With a powerful enough AI they can compute every single possibility and predict the future.

>>509925973
That charts kinda retarded

>>509921915
>Those are our elites, the people we grant power over us.
Speak for yourself, no one asked me.

>>509926445
*season 3
And no I will not watch that was the worst season

>>509921104 (OP)
(((Oligarch))) dreams of totalitarian techno-feudalism are not possible without the force-multiplier of AI

>>509921104 (OP)
Because the bubble needs it to be.

>>509921104 (OP)
Am I supposed to believe that Nvidia has more wealth than all Germany combined?

>>509927718
>has more wealth
Not exactly.
>Is valued greater by the market participants of the world at large
Yes.

>>509922392
>dysgenic goblins who keep hobbling it when it speaks the truth
you're allowed to say jews