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Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509934684 [Report] >>509935093 >>509935412 >>509935992 >>509936032 >>509936567 >>509936939 >>509937242 >>509937350 >>509937440 >>509937640 >>509938202 >>509938423 >>509938523 >>509938989 >>509939347 >>509939688 >>509939987 >>509940118 >>509941523 >>509942360 >>509944321 >>509944383 >>509947041 >>509950809
I went to London in 2019 and was absolutely horrified
I’m never going again
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509934901 [Report] >>509935099 >>509935621 >>509936688 >>509938173
what's wrong with you?
London is a utopia compared to any American city
Anonymous (ID: 5p1omutX) Ireland No.509935093 [Report] >>509935226 >>509935293 >>509935507 >>509935806 >>509936882
>>509934684 (OP)
I went in 1997 and was horrified. Seen non whites for the first time and there was some street we were in that was absolutely full of niggers, think it was in Croydon. The hotel we stayed in was beside a huge mosque with a golden dome and the hotel owned by Pakis too. I that was nearly 30 years ago. I want to go to London again though to check out all the cool stuff like the British museum before it's all completely ruined.
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509935099 [Report]
>>509934901
Yeah but not for long

It’s gonna be under Sharia Law by the late 20s/early 30s
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509935226 [Report] >>509935276 >>509936355
>>509935093
When and how did this start?
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509935276 [Report] >>509935905
>>509935226
windrush
Anonymous (ID: pFxKc6Bw) Argentina No.509935293 [Report] >>509935665 >>509935956
>>509935093
don't you find it ironic that you despise the people but want to go to a museum full of artifacts stolen from them?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Summer_Palace
Anonymous (ID: BzR6czc+) United Kingdom No.509935334 [Report]
In school we are told we won the war. Can you believe this?
Anonymous (ID: DA9Y2v9r) France No.509935412 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
I went in 1995, i have fond memories.
Never going again.
Anonymous (ID: PbLf+7xv) United Kingdom No.509935507 [Report] >>509935956
>>509935093
I went to Dublin last year and had a similar experience.
What European elites in positions of power are doing to our countries is insane and we need to stop infighting and focus on the real enemy.
Anonymous (ID: iiciLZfr) United States No.509935621 [Report]
>>509934901
Wow nigger, old things were nice!
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509935665 [Report] >>509935690
>>509935293
Most of the stuff in the British museums would've been destroyed if we hadn't preserved it, yet the very people who would've destroyed it suddenly want it back for free lol
Anonymous (ID: PbLf+7xv) United Kingdom No.509935690 [Report]
>>509935665
finders keepers
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509935806 [Report] >>509936249
>>509935093
Dublin is even shitter than London and even more expensive lol
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509935905 [Report] >>509936242
>>509935276
When did the Pakis began to be imported en masse and why?
Anonymous (ID: 5p1omutX) Ireland No.509935956 [Report]
>>509935293
>don't you find it ironic that you despise the people

I don't and neither do Irish people. This is just a cringe as fuck stereotype.
>>509935507
I haven't been to Dublin since around 95 or 96 and it was completely Irish back then and no foreigners. It's a place I'll probably never go again for the vexation it would cause me.
Anonymous (ID: NyxAicbK) United States No.509935992 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
I left in 2015 and it was already awful then, can’t imagine what it’s like now
Anonymous (ID: 9hLzGPQp) Finland No.509936032 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
I went there in 2015 and it was horrible, never going again. Most brits dont.
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509936242 [Report] >>509936764 >>509936837 >>509937172 >>509937306
>>509935905
Late 1940s onwards , to serve as cheap labour to rebuild after WW2
Anonymous (ID: eFyxDUqr) Hungary No.509936249 [Report]
>>509935806
this.
Anonymous (ID: Hg1jlm+P) Finland No.509936322 [Report] >>509936602
I moved there in 2010 and moved out in 2022. Went from the center of town being majority white and lot of hot smart young people, to a bunch of ghetto third worlders roaming around in hoodies. Even the remaining "white" people are like at best from Moldovia
Anonymous (ID: 5p1omutX) Ireland No.509936355 [Report]
>>509935226
Here it started around 2000 when our economy was booming. In England it started 50 years earlier. A country with money is like a barn full of grain That attracts rats and other vermin from all around.
Anonymous (ID: h1IhXkbo) U.S. Virgin Islands No.509936567 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
I went to London in 2022 and it was pretty ok, saw lots of browns, went to lots of museums, and was only able to find good food that was ethnic. Didn't get stabbed which was lucky.
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509936602 [Report] >>509936704 >>509939018 >>509940415 >>509941224
>>509936322
>a bunch of ghetto third worlders roaming around in hoodies
I don't get how they can all afford to live in inner London when even a 50sqm flat costs £500k
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509936688 [Report] >>509936865 >>509936969 >>509937344 >>509937418 >>509937523
>>509934901
Went in 2017 and stayed for several months. I went again last year. It is better than an American city by far. I am from NYC for the record. Yes its a shadow of what it used to be, not saying its not pozzed and zogged and abdul’d, it very much so is, but it is not like any American city. Not even close. I’d rather go to Edinburgh or explore Northumberland these days.
Anonymous (ID: eFyxDUqr) Hungary No.509936704 [Report]
>>509936602
public housing I guess? also 10 of them living in 2 bedrooms
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509936764 [Report] >>509936865
>>509936242
It looks absolutely apocalyptic
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509936837 [Report]
>>509936242
Serbia did all this to Europe and the West by killing an archduke 111 years ago
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509936865 [Report] >>509936926
>>509936688
That pic looks almost AI generated
Go to Edinburgh quick because it too is getting rapidly fucked
>>509936764
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509936882 [Report] >>509937518
>>509935093
> want to go to London again though to check out all the cool stuff like the British museum
theyre bringing the bayeux tapestry to the british museum
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509936926 [Report]
>>509936865
I went in 2018, before I was married. My wife wants to go.
Anonymous (ID: fVXGsZPf) Canada No.509936939 [Report] >>509937094
>>509934684 (OP)
London is a pretty big place. There are plenty of white places. Maybe try not being poor.
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509936969 [Report] >>509937296 >>509937509
>>509936688
Do you think if Zohran wins he will turn NYC Islamic?
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509937094 [Report] >>509937216 >>509937548
>>509936939
I went to the London Bridge that year and it was full of brown people speaking a language I never heard
Anonymous (ID: wvzUtOq8) Mexico No.509937172 [Report] >>509937362
>>509936242
This is obviously AI but I'm sure theres places in Europe that look like this
Anonymous (ID: h1IhXkbo) U.S. Virgin Islands No.509937216 [Report]
>>509937094
When I was there I got a compliment on my shitty moustache from some British teen working there. Very odd experience.
Anonymous (ID: 3ha5o2QG) United States No.509937242 [Report] >>509938467
>>509934684 (OP)
Meh, I went last year and had a good time. Every dog in London is cool. The pubs are friendly. The pints are cheap. They have steak pies and fish & chips. My only complaint was that the tube is too hot. They need AC in there.
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509937296 [Report] >>509937509
>>509936969
No, I don’t think he is a hardline devout Muslim just a generic leftist who happens to be a brown cultural Muslim. I don’t expect pic related to happen on the streets of the city. The bigger issue with him to me is how he wants to enpty the prisons and have Venezuelan-style communist grocery stores and give billions of dollars to trannies. The
>hes a evil muslim think of 9/11!!
is boomer tier nonsense
Anonymous (ID: 3ha5o2QG) United States No.509937306 [Report]
>>509936242
I saw nothing like this. I guess I never went to this part of the city.
Anonymous (ID: fVXGsZPf) Canada No.509937344 [Report] >>509938035
>>509936688
Richmond upon Thames. Used to live up the hill. Lovely place. Didn't buy in time and got priced out.
Anonymous (ID: YzL8p3Ub) United States No.509937350 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509937362 [Report] >>509937612
>>509937172
>This is obviously AI
strange because I know the street it was filmed on
Anonymous (ID: 3ha5o2QG) United States No.509937418 [Report] >>509937523 >>509938540
>>509936688
Exactly. English people will think it's a shit hole, but Americans will realize it's better than any US city by miles.
Anonymous (ID: EYCSnCAw) United Kingdom No.509937440 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
I commute in once a week for work, it's an absolute shit hole.
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509937509 [Report]
>>509937296
>>509936969
oops, wrong pic sorry
Anonymous (ID: 5p1omutX) Ireland No.509937518 [Report]
>>509936882
I'm very tempted to take a trip over soon. I was actually born in London to Irish parents but thankfully we came back to Ireland when I was a small child. The neighbourhood we lived in was full of Irish at the time but probably full of Pakis now. My parents would have had a good experience living in London in the 80s when it was still mostly white.
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509937523 [Report] >>509937680
>>509936688
>>509937418
What's with all these bongs with US vpns lol
Anonymous (ID: 3ha5o2QG) United States No.509937548 [Report]
>>509937094
It's called Italian.
Anonymous (ID: /iePEFPo) United Kingdom No.509937574 [Report] >>509937642 >>509938558
I went today, it was horrific
Anonymous (ID: wvzUtOq8) Mexico No.509937612 [Report] >>509938050
>>509937362
Besides the obvious watermark, a lot of the signs in the building are gibberish or have Arab and jeet symbols on them and there's always something uncanny in these AI vids. I don't know how to explain them but they look like the graphics in my dreams.
Anonymous (ID: 2pBmBT76) United Kingdom No.509937640 [Report] >>509938601
>>509934684 (OP)
It's worse now.
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509937642 [Report] >>509945008
>>509937574
Anonymous (ID: 3ha5o2QG) United States No.509937680 [Report] >>509942252
>>509937523
Again, I never saw anything remotely like this. Everywhere I went it was like 90% white British people with maybe some Indians and Blacks behind reception desks and that's about it. Have you ever been to America?
Anonymous (ID: wvzUtOq8) Mexico No.509937749 [Report]
Also I watched some videos from Black Sabbaths last concert in Birmingham and the crowd was like 90% white
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509938035 [Report]
>>509937344
I remember you from the last time I posted about liking Richmond
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509938050 [Report]
>>509937612
It's obvious your IQ isn't the highest, show me an example of "gibberish" in the webm
Anonymous (ID: KFieomjZ) United States No.509938173 [Report] >>509948113
>>509934901
Guaranteed that smells like shit and is a mosquito breeding ground during the summer
Fuck that.
Anonymous (ID: GXH5TgOu) United Kingdom No.509938202 [Report] >>509938298
>>509934684 (OP)
I live in London and I want to leave.
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509938298 [Report] >>509939472 >>509939855
>>509938202
few places in the world have as much selection on deliveroo and ubereats as london has, why would you want to leave?
Anonymous (ID: V+akA8ti) United States No.509938423 [Report] >>509938494
>>509934684 (OP)

I went like 20+ years ago to London and Paris. London was experiencing the darkness but not too bad. It felt pretty cool, the cabs were great, awesome beer and banter w/ folks.

Paris even 20 years ago felt like a 3rd world cess pit in the making. Jamaican gangs, grafitti, arab cab drivers/scammers and thieves. Sad.
Anonymous (ID: 1kjq9FXp) United Kingdom No.509938467 [Report]
>>509937242
>The pints are cheap
u wot m8
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509938494 [Report] >>509938896
>>509938423
not surprised, Paris has zero redeeming qualities unlike London which still has one or two
Anonymous (ID: RbBgx8FH) Australia No.509938523 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
I went in 2023 and saw some sort of demonstration of a crowd with ISIS flag chanting muslim bable. It was terrifying. England is cooked, is a matter of time until whites are exterminated.
Anonymous (ID: KFieomjZ) United States No.509938540 [Report] >>509938698
>>509937418
>Americans will realize it's better than any US city by miles.
Been to London, it was mid
America has plenty of crappy cities (lived in Baltimore for a minute, sucked ass) but stop acting like some college girl that came back from their first time traveling abroad huffing your farts about "muh foreign city." Pathetic.
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509938558 [Report]
>>509937574
Sorry you had that experience
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509938601 [Report] >>509938672
>>509937640
How much worse? I’m interested
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509938672 [Report] >>509939961
>>509938601
All the Poles left since Brexit, Pakistanis and Nigerians took their place
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509938698 [Report]
>>509938540
>zoomer babble
>comparing london to baltimore
you’re sick. I lived in DC for two years, no comparison.
Anonymous (ID: V+akA8ti) United States No.509938896 [Report]
>>509938494

Yeah for sure. When I visited the Lourve and Normandy beach/museum, it felt like this place did not deserve to have so much cool shit. Like it was being wasted inside this cancer nugget of a city.

Rural France felt pretty nice though. Was 14 and ran into a group of teenaged French girls who looked like elves and they took me hiking and it was comfy. Wish people would remove their cucked leaders and install some true, family focused normies. Remove the browns, tear down the muslims, enjoy cute French girls and high art.
Anonymous (ID: lN/gpE+J) United Kingdom No.509938989 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
its a interatnional city, i think that is what will happen to most western cities.
Anonymous (ID: Hg1jlm+P) Finland No.509939018 [Report]
>>509936602

avoiding taxes, living 4 ppl per one bedroom flat, drug dealing, sublet council housing, and I think many of them live in like zone 200 and just come to the center to hang out and hoot and holler.
Anonymous (ID: Lbbkaof5) United States No.509939106 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMt8kJg-tUA
Anonymous (ID: 9R55IoAy) United States No.509939347 [Report] >>509939503 >>509939947
>>509934684 (OP)
Holy fuck that is a lot of retarded architecture. Big building on the left looks like a room air cleaner. Much of it looks like shitty motels from the 70's just rampantly expanded. Oh, then the butt plug or rocket ship... FFS bunch of wank.
Anonymous (ID: SfH8vdHt) United Kingdom No.509939472 [Report]
>>509938298
kek
>white guys casually bails out
Love to see some white care bear whore try to get between the warring nogs
Anonymous (ID: lN/gpE+J) United Kingdom No.509939503 [Report]
>>509939347
The one on left is called the walkie talkie
Anonymous (ID: Aek43p+N) Finland No.509939688 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)

It was nice place about 1850-1900....after that all shit.
Anonymous (ID: Nvaf0lw4) Australia No.509939855 [Report]
>>509938298
>check out this obivious sand nigger kike
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509939947 [Report]
>>509939347
modern architecture is shit
Anonymous (ID: SfH8vdHt) United Kingdom No.509939961 [Report]
>>509938672
Nope
Poles did useful work in society, nogs and pakis are incapable, The Poles just hid the extent of the degeneration by making London and the rest of the UK look whiter than it is.
Anonymous (ID: aZU+2vn1) Luxembourg No.509939987 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
Literally same
Anonymous (ID: QKBe2Yqt) No.509940118 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
Stupid. I'm smart enough to never go to England at all. It's worse than America in every way.
Anonymous (ID: 4zp9btNv) Finland No.509940415 [Report]
>>509936602
invaders get gibs for rents so kikes owning those $5M flats get their moneys back in a year or two
Anonymous (ID: SfH8vdHt) United Kingdom No.509941224 [Report]
>>509936602
Nogs were all given council houses after they drove the native whites out back in the 70s - 80s
/\nonymous (ID: ytGHVGYm) Canada No.509941523 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
It's a cultureless concrete and glass shithole full of jewish non-art and BIPOC invaders displaced by jewish wars who live for free off the taxpayers.
Anonymous (ID: vJKDobyj) United States No.509942252 [Report]
>>509937680
Bullshit.
Anonymous (ID: 1oNPZorl) No.509942360 [Report] >>509942926 >>509943773
>>509934684 (OP)
yeah just stay out of Europe, it's cooked, total shitlib victory- which is really just losing because they ask for demographic replacement and the death of their race, lol fucking idiots.
Anonymous (ID: SfH8vdHt) United Kingdom No.509942926 [Report]
>>509942360
Correct the left/jews have won completely as a certain Australian warned what would happen if they did.
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509943773 [Report] >>509944193
>>509942360
I’m only planning on visiting Europe one last time-to visit family in Croatia and to have a day trip in Rome (I already went in 2024 and it was great. I just want to go back on more time before the city becomes London and Paris. Mostly to see the colosseum again)
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509944193 [Report] >>509945086 >>509945334
>>509943773
>Rome
kek

https://youtu.be/lxc-pARZ7u8
Anonymous (ID: DGAaZsjB) United States No.509944321 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
>2019
so why the fuck post about it 6yrs later?

I was in London last year and it was fanfuckingtastic
Anonymous (ID: lG/ttfSc) United States No.509944383 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
It can't be any worse than your average blue state city
Anonymous (ID: TiBjDYCe) United States No.509944396 [Report]
Is there any major city/metropolitan area in the West that's NOT shit?
Anonymous (ID: FDI0Nceb) Romania No.509945008 [Report]
>>509937642
Your barbarian bitch should not have rebelled against daddy.
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509945086 [Report] >>509945574 >>509945680
>>509944193
He went looking for trouble. Most people go to Rome to see like three things, despite the entire city being filled to the brim with crazy shit. No one is going to see fascist architecture in EUR or going to the beautiful Protestant Cemetery under the Pyramid of Cestus. I could go on and on and on about all the wacky shit in Rome, but normoids just go to see the fountain and the colosseum. Tell the niggers to FUCK OFF and youre fine, but this guy honestly went looking for trouble. Also dont be a poorfag/jew and take cabs instead of the train, most pickpockets are guineas themselves
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509945334 [Report]
>>509944193
Well, at least it’s just niggers being the chimps they are

In London and Paris, it’s full of Muslims trying to destroy European heritage and culture

So in Rome it’s less depressing
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509945574 [Report] >>509945855
>>509945086
The reason Rome isn’t as bad as London and Paris is because it’s nowhere near as depressing. London and Paris are invested with Muslims trying to destroy European heritage and culture. Rome is only infested with niggers being the chimps they are. It feels like a zoo where the primates went loose as opposed to a battlefield
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509945680 [Report]
>>509945086
And yes, wasn’t going there for Italian culture (other than food and gelato). I was going there to see the ruins since I’m really into Roman history and ancient history in general
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509945855 [Report] >>509945944
>>509945574
I really just saw nogs outside the colosseum, that one fat one dressed in african garb bothering boomers in piazza navona, and a few wandering the streets here and there. I expereinced more harassment from jeets than any other subhuman, but Id like to stress this was really minimal. This was last year.
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509945944 [Report] >>509946405
>>509945855
What were the jets doing?
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509946405 [Report] >>509947228
>>509945944
shoving flowers in womens faces while they ate dinner, throwing sticky toys onto a wooden board on the ground, shilling plastic garbage, another thing they do is put shitty prints of paintings on the ground in crowded areas and yell at you demanding money if you step on them. scam shit as usual.
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509946701 [Report] >>509947337
also theres a great military store that leftists seethe about, i highly recommend checking it out

https://www.militariainroma.com/en/

https://romeifyouwantto.com/theres-a-nazi-store-in-the-middle-of-downtown-rome/

i spent a lot of money here on fascist and nazi stuff
Anonymous (ID: X01U96qq) United States No.509947041 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
I went for the coronation and they cleaned it up. Lots of White people and few negros or Muslims.
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509947228 [Report] >>509952590
>>509946405
Muslim jeets or Hindu jeets?

How bad how the experience in Rome in general?
Anonymous (ID: SfH8vdHt) United Kingdom No.509947337 [Report] >>509949240
>>509946701
Absolutely love Rome
Anonymous (ID: vjR2Ch8d) United Kingdom No.509947427 [Report] >>509947803
London is Shangri-La compared to any big American city.
Anonymous (ID: GReIbCoR) France No.509947545 [Report]
The wogs have overrun the place. Without a doubt,
Anonymous (ID: SfH8vdHt) United Kingdom No.509947803 [Report] >>509948173
>>509947427
London does have a few comfy places, its saving grace really. Not sure about US cities of similar size - I watch John Hicks on YT - even though he is a pure burger mutt his channel shows LA pretty well and most of it looks like a fucking hell hole

https://www.youtube.com/@JohnHicksFilm/shorts
Anonymous (ID: XG07Vqlj) No.509948041 [Report]
>Amerifats when they realise London was a large maritime shipment city, the river thames bringing many ships and trade from all across the world and the seas bringing cultures aka migrants aka pirates aka traders

sorry you land lovers got kiked out by goyim television lol brain washing wage slaves, its okay disclosure is coming soon. We are the the age of aquarias babessss the we set sail all across every realm hehee, expand your awareness white boys or get left behind in the dust :))))
Anonymous (ID: mE4p+vBM) United Kingdom No.509948113 [Report] >>509948392 >>509952457
>>509938173
>mosquito breeding ground
We don't have mosquitos here
Anonymous (ID: SfH8vdHt) United Kingdom No.509948173 [Report] >>509949318
>>509947803
edit to add - its not even the nogs, homeless and whores that make it seem terrible, its the absolute demonic physical appearance of the place, it reminds me of Kabul
Anonymous (ID: SfH8vdHt) United Kingdom No.509948392 [Report]
>>509948113
we do actually

>A research programme by the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) and the Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) has identified fragments of West Nile Virus (WNV) genetic material in mosquitoes collected in Britain for the first time.
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509949240 [Report]
>>509947337
Same
Anonymous (ID: 3ImnqcRb) United States No.509949318 [Report]
>>509948173
What about the place resembles Kabul?
Anonymous (ID: 0mW2Dcwg) United States No.509950809 [Report]
>>509934684 (OP)
When your signature building is the world's biggest buttplug what can you expect
Anonymous (ID: +Tu1AjKx) United Kingdom No.509952457 [Report]
>>509948113
>We don't have mosquitos here
not sure about norf but we do in souf
Anonymous (ID: lFH93IEY) United States No.509952590 [Report]
>>509947228
I dont know anon I didn’t ask the jeets their life story. I love Rome, cant wait to go back, what the fuck are you scared of?