Thread 509937054

You don't actually believe in this bullshit, do you?

God damn, only a NPC who is completely fucking retarded would even consider this.

No I'm not a christcuck, but swapping 1 retarded jewish fairytale for another jewish fairytale is hardly an improvement.

>>509937054 (OP)
It's called a "Theory" for a reason.

>>509937054 (OP)
No, I believe in creation. But I tend to think the act of creation also created a lore and backstory that places the age of the earth older than its so called creation date. Basically I don't know, but I view the Bible and other cultures very similar myths as a symbolic retroprojection. If that makes sense.

>>509937054 (OP)
It's the best explanation we have.

>>509937556
It's more nonsensical than divine creation if you take it to its logical conclusion. That is to say the birth of matter.

>>509937054 (OP)
Evolution is a directly observed fact of reality and you have a double digit IQ if you don't understand it.
Evolution is not a jewish fairytale. It was observed and proved by white Europeans and it completely disproves the jewish religions.

>>509937054 (OP)
>believe
Science has nothing to do with belief but with explaining. But low brains will never get it.

>>509937675
Why did creation create nipples onto your chest? And why do you grow hair on your butt but lose it on your head?

>>509937675
Evolution isn't about how matter got here in the first place. It's just a theory of how matter changes over time.
There's no evidence that matter was created by the way. It could very well be eternal just cycling from one universe to the next.
"But the big bang"
That doesn't disprove anything.

>>509937746
The only thing that's proven is actually what we can observe. That there is a morphology tree shared by all living creatures. But that does not necessitate that one form begets another. For example, fossils of so-called 10,000 year old sea creatures look identical to ones today.

>>509937977
You're asking figuratively? Literally nipples are because we spring from the same form starting from an embryo. Is this a gotcha question? It sounds retarded. Creation doesn't mean you get to bypass the consequences of living in a logical world. It just means the world is actually imagination space codified into matter.

>>509938235
>Evolution isn't about how matter got here in the first place.
Yeah, it absolutely is. You're theorizing about the intertia of change. If you follow it back further than you're comfortable with, you end up at the birth of matter.

You don't want to think about it because it's not useful to your understanding of the theory, but you still have to, because it is implicit in the theory.

>>509938598
We have millions of fossils of transitional forms that don't look this anything alive today

>>509937746
No, evolution is not observable, it’s not testable or provable. It’s based upon interpretation and assumption. >>509938598
In an atheist naturalist worldview you can’t have logic or reason, your worldview is incoherent.

>>509938716
No, matter and energy are necessarily eternal in both time directions and uncreated.

>>509938598
>so-called 10,000 year old sea creatures look identical to ones today.
Except they don't. Some look similar but most ain't identical.
You also dodged the hair question because it would reveal that you are just an ape that evolved to walk on two legs and lose its hair except for a few patches like on head, pits and crotch area.

>>509937054 (OP)
>No I'm not a christcuck, but swapping 1 retarded jewish fairytale for another jewish fairytale is hardly an improvement.
Now tell us all about how you are going to colonize Mars, sweaty.

>>509938877
It is directly observable, testable, repeatable, and falsifiable but it has never been falsified. You just don't know what evolution is.
Presuppositionalism is the lowest IQ most dogshit argument that you Christians have been trying to make for the past year or two.

no one has ever been able to explain it without resorting to magical hand-waving

>>509938917
That is out of the scope of reason, including natural sciences. Read about the antinomies of pure reason by Kant.

>>509937054 (OP)
Yes, I believe evolution to be a fact, and that the creation story in the bible is a fiction

>>509938949
You just have an immature idea of creation so I'm not interested. You think the fact we aren't perfectly smooth alien graybodies demonstrates we aren't created. It's not an argument and I've showed you this.

>>509937054 (OP)
>you dont really believe thing do you?
>only retards believe thing
>I'm not even [bad guy] normally associated with thing
My only question is whether youre a fed spreading red herrings or a LLM bot studying how to manipulate people

>>509938917
There has to be a point where matter emerged from energy. Why? Because the universe constantly transmutes matter and releases a part of its mass as pure energy (photons).
If it was eternal, either stars couldn't exist or the mass in the universe would constantly increase because there would need to be a mechanism that generates new matter to fuel new stars.

>>509939051
>Presuppositionalism is the lowest IQ most dogshit argument that you Christians have been trying to make for the past year or two.
This is your only actual response to it, I’ve yet to see an atheist actually prove they have a coherent worldview.
Where does logic come from in your worldview?

>>509939197
I just showed you parts on your body that are a direct result of evolution. Bot you chose bail out.

>>509937556
You mean it's the *only* explanation you have. Seriously, it's either God created it or it's an accident of nature. There are no other options.

>>509938949
Don’t tell him about lice and crabs.

>>509939290
Logic is a description. There is nothing about logic that requires a God. That's literally the direct refutation of your position.

>>509938877
I'm not an atheist. You ALSO have an immature idea of creation. The difference between you and the German is that you believe in Jesus and he doesn't. But both of you have a literal interpretation of scripture not supported by scripture.

>>509939342
I just wanted to bring examples that he can observe on his own body without leaving the basement.

>>509938877
It actually is observable in any species with adequately short lifespan, like fruit flies.

>>509939366
Logic is a description of what? And you haven’t explained where logic comes from in your worldview.

>>509937054 (OP)
>1pbtid
>retarded shit
KYS or in case you're a bot, explode your own server, faggot.

>>509939337
Bullshit. Aliens creating us or us being in a simulation is much more plausible than any bullshit involving god

>>509939797
>ITS NOT GOD ITS ALIEEEEEEEEENS
kek. Imagine hating Jesus so much you make yourself into a clown.

>>509938877
You don't believe in dogs?

>>509939702
Someone triggered this christcuck.
Tell me logically why I should believe in the rantings of a schizophrenic Neolithic desert pedophile who pimped his wife, fucked a servant, tried to kill his kid, and was a big advocate of slicing apart infant dicks?

>>509939797
>Aliens creating us or us being in a simulation
Those are absolutely absurd and literal non-explanations, that only push the problem back to a more distant stage. If you can't see why aliens or a computer running Reality™ themselves require an explanation, then you are really confused.

>>509939959
We also created some species. It's not that far off.

>>509940355
Nah bro dogs aren’t a thing. It was god.

>>509940323
>I don't understand it
>That means it must be god
Brainlet take.

>>509939246
>because there would need to be a mechanism that generates new matter to fuel new stars
stars are not fueled by an internal mechanism, they are powered by an external powersource.

>>509940618
And where does that external power source get its power from?

>>509940684
nobody knows where the universe gets its energy from, but Stars are all externally powered by these electric currents.

Mfw you niggers are going to solve the mysteries of space and time god and love.

Brutal, atheists aren’t able to explain where logic comes from in their worldview…

Made up jewish and liberal fairy tales to tell you that we all came from nigger apes

>>509940833
That doesn't make any sense. First they are not electrical second you need to get the energy from somewhere.

>>509941616
Not came from. We are nigger apes. Just some happen to have a lighter skin, because ancestors lost melanin.

>>509941802
>That doesn't make any sense
actually it does make a lot of sense and matches the observations and predictions made by that model.
>First they are not electrical
yes stars are electric and the electric sun model explains all the things that the failed standard model cant explain, like the corona for example, which shouldnt even exist according to the mainstream.
>you need to get the energy from somewhere.
yes and the origin of that energy is currently unknown.
also there never was a Big Bang, thats another failed theory that failed to make proper predictions.

>>509941958
Fucking kill yourself.

No nigger ever came close to Mozart or Beethoven. I do have the divine spark that many of my tribesmen had. You obviously don't. Pathetic.

>>509937143
/Thread

>>509939797
Agreed

>>509937054 (OP)
Evolutionists need to demonstrate how one species becomes another genetically before I care about their retarded theory. If I flip letters at random in a book I won’t get a new book

>>509939797
But I also believe there is a creator source think about who made the higher being that made us?

>>509941545
You never answered the question.>>509940129
Logically why are the rantings of a adulterous penis mutilating retard more valid than say species change and adapt over many thousands and millions of years to suit the environment and geography they live in?

>>509942188
The ape got triggered.

>>509939797
You’re a midwit. Pushing this onto aliens just moves the goalposts on how THEY got here. Simulation theory is so stupid it need not even be considered but here’s a thought - who or what is simulating this? What are they simulating? Are they simulations? How would you know? The buck of Being has to stop somewhere

Piltdown Man on wikipedia:

> The Piltdown Man was a paleoanthropological fraud in which bone fragments were presented as the fossilised remains of a previously unknown early human. Although there were doubts about its authenticity virtually from its announcement in 1912, the remains were still broadly accepted for many years, and the falsity of the hoax was only definitively demonstrated in 1953.

If a forgery has been presented as fact for 40 years, imagine all the forgeries still present now in 2025. Suffice to say, I don’t believe the evolution theory.

We are hybrid aliens. The gods are our engineers.
Évolution is not entirely wrong but we didn't evolve from monkeys.

>>509942489
Who engineered gods?
>but we didn't evolve from monkeys
No. Because we are monkeys.

>>509937054 (OP)
>"I don't believe this"
>gives no reasons
Bait.

>>509942408
You can’t account for logic in your worldview. Why are you using something you can’t justify with your worldview?

>>509937675
>supernatural agent is easier to believe
Lol. Lmao.

>>509937054 (OP)
The funny this about evolution is that the skull shape of a negro still suggests that they are not evolved

>>509937054 (OP)
We cum from aliens

>>509942188
>I do have the divine spark that many of my tribesmen had
And yet here you are. I’m sure your ancestors are so proud.

>>509942450
>>509939337
Let me ask you this: Why must it be 1 God? Sounds like jewish bullshit to me.

Why can't it be for example an entire race of godlike aliens? That's right, an entire community of Gods. And they observe this universe under a microscope like we observe fungi cultures. Reality is much more likely something crazy like this instead of
>hurr, some jewish old man. ONE jewish old man for some reason... made the entirety of reality.
Why does it have to be 1?

>>509940567
I see what's going on. You think it's a scientific question that is satisfied by some observational data, but it's actually a philosophical question and only satisfied by an explanation that accounts for what exists *necessarily*. Something cannot come from nothing, therefore what exists either has itself for an explanation, because it exists necessarily, or it doesn't. If it doesn't exist necessarily, then it must have recourse to something that does in order to explain its own existence. That's why saying it's aliens or it's cosmic computers doesn't explain anything because those things don't necessarily exist unless you can show how they do.

>>509937054 (OP)
>You don't believe in this
Let me guess, you don't "get" the photo and think the monkey is metamorphosing?

That in of itself is a meme at this point
>Retard thinks the monkey is shapeshifting into a man woah so original!

>>509940129
>>509942716
>logically
In your worldview where does logic come from? What is logic?

>>509942713
>yeah we do

>>509942489
I'm thinking the same but good luck showing these retards the truth

>>509942840
Answer the question retard.
Why should I take the words of some long dead desert pedos about creation and the divine?

>>509942840
>how can logic be real if it's not magical?

>>509942986
So you can’t answer the question, you atheists can’t give an account for and justify using logic, your worldview is incoherent and self-refuting.

>>509943105
You can’t give an answer. Your worldview is built on a house of cards. Why should I believe ancient desert psychopaths?
This is what you sound like.

>>509943061
Just answer the question, but I know you probably won’t, because you can’t. I haven’t yet seen an atheist give a logical answer to these basic questions.

also in case anyone is wondering, here is how it works:

>electric currents are creating the basic building blocks of life (amino acids, which proteins are made from were found on asteroids)
>comets/asteroids get their pretty tails by going from a low current density environment to a high current density environment near stars
>electric currents, magnetic fields, electric discharges and emissions in this spectrum is what creates life and plays a big role in shaping them
>polyploidy can massively speed up "evolution" and create new races within 1 generation
>basically every lifeform on earth is a mutant
>natural selection and other stress and pressure forms and changes them too
>humans are not done evolving and will continue to evolve, probably around the next time a cosmic sized electric discharge (from a Nova for example) hits them
also:
>the universe itself is some sort of lifeform and a host for life so thats why it creates it

>>509943105
Ah yes, the dishonest tactic of every christian. Deflect from being unable to support your claim by trying to make the other person support a claim. This is how I know there's no god, because why would a good and just god have dishonest people speaking for it?

>>509943210
You’re not answering my question. Logically, according to whatever logic you use, explain why I should believe in the god of Abraham?

>>509943210
I don't know. Now prove your god did it.

>>509937143
And after hundreds(thousands?) of years, there's still no evidence for evolution. Here's a pro-tip: if there's no evidence for a theory, get a new theory.

imagine that theoretical image in reverse order and put a giant at the beginning. monkeys at the end are today's shitskin retards.

>>509943488
If you can’t account for logic in your worldview how can you account for anything? Where does reason come from? What is truth? Why are you even trusting your own mind to come to conclusions of “truth” when you can’t justify such things in your worldview?

>>509937054 (OP)
I do. It’s mostly because of fossil records of ancient humans

>>509943353
I’m sorry, but how can asteroids and comets seed life on earth? You’re telling me that the ingredients to life were made… in outer space. And I thought the primordial soup theory was bad enough.

>>509944102
Prove your god did it.

>>509942761
That's a good question, Anon, but the answer requires having some knowledge of very ancient philosophy. Put simply, it must be one God because of divine simplicity. Look up the term and you will find a lot on the subject.

>>509943423
>God would totally smite everyone talking shit is he was real
This is what happens when your mythos is replaced with capeshit and other slop made for weak nerds.

>>509944342
I recommend reading the Republic by Plato for this. There’s the part of the «analogy of the sun» that explains it very well.

>>509943525
>Dunning Nigger effect
OP is a retard but this shit is the most reddit pro-technocrat type bullshit of all time.
>All people who aren't experts on this subject are foolish retard and cocky. I dare say as an expert on this topic that I am more humble then they, don't you agree kind gentilesirs (upvote)!
>Do you see that massive dip? Do not bother pursuing this topic because you will be HUMBLED by it.

>>509944593
>can't refute my point
>resorts to insults

>>509944203
>but how can asteroids and comets seed life on earth?
the point is not that asteroids and comets seed life, the point is that these electric interactions is what shapes and creates the basic building blocks of life.
Electric discharges are everywhere in space not just on comets/asteroids.

>>509944737
Yeah, it’s like if you DARE question the status quo, you are a low IQ retard who believes in fairy tales.

Mark Twain said: «Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.»

These people who call anyone questionning what they were fed in school «low IQ», are not smart. They are smug, arrogant and annoying.

>>509941616
It's actually the opposite, retard cigani. In creationism, we are all created equal and in evolution, we are the higher step

>>509937054 (OP)
>Christcuck
Why would the Jews spread a lie about them having the son of God tortured to death? It doesn’t make them look strong it makes them look despicable and cursed and ewww who would want them in your country with his blood on their hands?

>>509945263
>«
retarded cousinfucker quebeccor
here are your catholic nigger brothers in christ

>>509945263
It's like someone took a non serious phenomenon of psyching yourself up to do something you've never done and said "Well that makes you arrogant".
If someone told me right now I have to fly an airplane, I wouldn't be "Peak confidence" over something I don't know how to do.
Where the fuck did they get this idea?

>>509945682
Fuck you anglocuck. Va chier

>>509937054 (OP)
>>509937143
Makes as much sense as anything else. I'm more interested in how the intelligence of those creatures
>impacts their evolution
>propagates itself over time and space
Everything that makes up my consciousness (brain) came from somewhere else. Sperm and egg bonk into each other, creating me in embryo. Very strange ngl

>>509937054 (OP)
it only doesn’t make sense if you’re low IQ enough that you can’t process how extremely small changes to genetics compound into big ones over massive stretches of time. anyone saying they don’t get it is either a shill or actually incapable of understanding, ie niggerbrains.

>>509937054 (OP)
I suspect this kind of post is about to get a lot more common here. Along with flat earth and 5G bullshit. Allying with antivaxxers was a bad idea.

>>509937143
>observation-hypothesis-experiment-demonstration-theory
The scientific method.
>theory = hypothesis
The "TV tells me what to think" method.

>>509948094
>Christians keep seething over the current dispensationalist view that "Israel is israel" and go through a lengthy explanation of why the church is Israel and not the state of Israel despite having the same name.

>Turn around and do the same exact thing the dispensationalists do, but with the word "theory".

>>509948094
>>509948999
I admit my wrong: I used words in ways that did not mean what was supposed to mean.
There are 2 words, very different: theory & theorem.
And unfortunately retards everywhere have made the 2 words mean the same thing.
So again, the scientific method:
>observation-hypothesis-experiment-demonstration-theorem

>>509937054 (OP)
Evolution is nonsense. If it had any legitimate merit the field would have progressed by now. Instead it is stagnant. We need a radical reinterpretation of biology.

>>509949949
>The field would have progressed by now
What does that even mean though?