How does experiencing translate to civilian life afterwards?

>>509942673 (OP)
>How does experiencing translate to civilian life afterwards?
It doesn't.
Lots of them kill themselves.

>>509942855
It's mostly an amerimutt thing

>>509943155
Do you think Roman legionnaires had ptsd?

>>509942673 (OP)
you would be having a conversation with someone then realize like you realized back then we aren't real were made of stuff and you think about how easy it is to die and then the guilt comes about why others not you etc.
>why did I sign up for this?
>what's happening to me I was fearless
>I'm too weak I need to kill myself
>it should have been me

Common sentiments among people who have had to kill. Not many of them manage well without a lot of support.

Combat is epic and based, just like in CoD!
I can't wait for the next war in the Middle East!

>>509943155
Yeah because young boys are coddled out here and taught to “never grow up” nd shieet. Also very democratic and cosmopolitan so we are also inundated with christcuck morality concerning everyone being super duper special and unique and deserving of life.

If you are a non-philosophical American nigger faggot mutt with these ideas drilled into your head you will not be able to rationalize the killing.

One needs to understand totally the enemy is Not human and that killing the enemy is no different than weeding a garden or exterminating an ant colony… and that one is a force of nature acting indifferently, much like a hurricane or flood.

>>509943640
CoD? What is this, 2012

>>509943486
Few of them did, but when you see like half of your siblings pass away before age five and have to slit the throats of pigs, cattle etc and butcher them yourself, you are way more mentally prepared for the horrours of war (which was genuinely more horrible back then, sure now the threat is more constant due to arty/airstrikes/drones/snipers but deaths are quicker and more painless than getting a slab of steel stuck in the gut and in 99% you don't get to see in the eyes the man whose life you take) than modern man
PTSD rates seems to increase with comfort and the self-domestication progress of man

>>509943645
Yeah? How many wars for Israel have you been in, mutt boy?

>>509943645
Exactly this, it's a mixture of modern comfort, self-domestication and a bunch of (kinda retarded) ideas shoved down one's throat

>>509943775
I sometimes wonder about the Punic wars. Random post, I know
Two massive super powers just slugging it out. Probably will never be anything like it again

>>509942673 (OP)
combat feels mostly like bags of sand

>>509943917
>air strikes taste like salty coins

>>509943775
To say, my great grandfather fought in ww1, he shot plenty of enemies and didn't much like it nor found it very traumatic
The moment he had to face an austrian soldier during a countercharge and stabbed him with a bayonet, that was the moment he had a mental breakdown, even though he was mentally stable after the war

>>509944025
Wow. That’s heavy
Hope he managed it mostly

>>509943893
The 1st and 2nd ones are really interesting because they are the first documented examples of attrition warfare (the second being fought over multiple fronts and involving a lot of foreign actors like Macedon too), with Rome eventually winning not because they were more tacticool but because their capacility to generate power via conscription and industry eventually exceedes Carthage's

>>509942673 (OP)
Imagine being forced to stay awake in the same position for hours on end after getting maybe 4 hours of sleep in the last 3 days and if you lift your head up you die.

Combat is fun the first time, then you know better, then it's like every negative physical, mental and emotional sensation a human can experience all at once. It sucks. Most engagements are you shooting at people more than 50+ yards away and taking turns blindly firing in the other's direction. Even with door knocking raids and clearing rooms, it happens too fast and it's too dirty to really recognize what's going on until it's over, and 99% of the time you're about to puke from the amount of adrenaline and stress going through your body. You don't get used to it, you just get numb. I don't recommend it.

>>509943970
you mean salty milk and coins

>>509942673 (OP)
From personal experience it really fucked me up, but not in the PTSD nightmare kind of way; more like, being persistently uncomfortable and unable to relax kind of way.
When I shower, wash dishes, or even listen to music, I can hear persistent gunfire. I know it's not real, but it sounds like it is. It sounds like different calibers of bullets being fired at different rates. Sometimes I'll zone out while doing dishes and it's like I'm back there staring at the sand because I'm just so tired all I could do was stare. I regretted joining the military almost immediately after being deployed, because I never realized how hard it was for me to sleep on a fixed schedule, so there were times where I wouldn't get any sleep and have to do my jobs tired as hell.

Now when I come home and lie down for the night, I hallucinate the smell of the barracks. Not for long. I'll catch a whiff of it for a second before it disappears, and I know my brain is playing tricks on me, but it really brings me back. If I don't get up and turn a light on to look at something, I start getting these weird physical sensations where my pillow and blanket feel hard as concrete and I start seeing fucked up weird shapes in the darkness. It's unnerving. I never had nightmares like some people do, but I do hallucinate a lot.

The worst is that I just can't relax. I'm constantly trying to occupy my brain with things, because if I'm not distracting myself mentally, I'll start daydreaming of my service days, and not in a good way.

>>509944207
I always thought the invention of the Corvus was kino

>>509944090
Yeah after the war he recovered fairly well, but didn't much like talking about it afaik, I know this through my great uncle who was very close to him
Fun fact, since he shouted at the Austrian to "go back" (poor bugger didn't understand italian ofc so kept coming and got stabbed) before having to kill him, some lieutnant who overheard it wanted to have my great-grandpa executed for "cowardice and trying to spare an enemy soldier"

>>509944285
Those are drone strikes

Reformed ZOGbot here. It doesn't translate in a modern first world country. I came back to realize how sheltered most Americans are from how life actually works. I think most people get PTSD simply because of the culture shock at how decadent we really are. The entire culture is based on frivolities and nonsense fights over nothing. When you step outside for a little bit, you realize there is a real enemy to fight here and few are even aware of it. It's ugly.

>>509944472
That officer sounds bitch made lol

>>509944524
>drone strikes
mission codename Vicky

>>509944390
Fun fact: it was originally invented by Athenians when they were trying to besiege Syracuse via sea during the Peloponnesian war. Romans found the blueprints and concluded it would have been much better used for rapid boarding action than scaling walls

>>509943645
I kind of want to kill you just based on how you write desu

>>509944624
Ww1 was basically a contest between Italy and Austria-Hungary to see who could execute more of their own soldiers kek

>>509944620
It’s a good thing to be sheltered imo
Glad you made it back

>>509944883
Holy shit

>>509944304
Brother that is PTSD

>>509944904
It's a double-edged sword. We are so dominant that people in the US and Europe have become soft and dysgenic and lost their fighting spirit, which is the primary reason for civilizational collapse. The warrior class does not run these places anymore.

Yay, we won; but at what cost?

>>509944207
>Stabbed an austrian

I thank your great granpa from the bottom of my heart. :)

>>509943155
You are correct.

I deal with many active soldiers and veterans here in Mexico (Own a restaurant near a mil base) and they are people who experienced the hell that is urban combat against drugged up death cultists which I consider to be far more stressful than going on a saffari in armored truck calling air strikes on civvies in some desert for jews.
They are powertripping assholes like any pig but very well adjusted and it is common for them to take up oddjobs to get more cash on top of their pensions.
I believe that the whole amerigolem ptsd thing of pissing yourself with fireworks comes from being circumcized at birth (kike satanic ritual) and then heavy artillery and explosions further hammering that brain damage.

The Taliban, Hamas and Hezbollah are more than probably circumcized (muslims) but they do it at way later ages where the male understands what is going on and why and they seem fairly well adjusted once the fighting is over like how the Taliban is busy rebuilding.

>>509945799
You didn't won shit, mutt, you lost every fucking war after WW2.

>memeflag shitter doesn't know history

>>509943486
I read somewhere that PTSD is a problem brought by industrialized warfare. In ancient times you fought and died with you body while in modern war you wait for death coming from nowhere in form of a bullet or a bomb, that is the shit that fucks with your mind.

>>509942673 (OP)
I went to Fallujah in 2006 for three tours. I had to do horrible things for this country. I’m now an alcoholic.

>>509946280
Last time I checked, no one invaded the US or Europe until we started to fall apart. Pax Americana is ending and I'll be glad to see it go.

>>509946587
> I had to do horrible things for this country.

You did it for pissrael....did they even thank you?

>>509946280
>>509946819
Fuck off memeflag. You're fat.

>>509946647
They invaded you in the name of immigration, and you allow them in without a question. Not like you have a justification to stop them anyway.

>>509946819
Implying Israel is different than America…

>>509946957
LoL , you're an alcoholic. XD

Switch to fent...hero

>>509947056
No, america is their goyim vassal state, you literally work and pay taxes for them, not the other way around.

>>509947089
>fat and can't read ID
Foreign actor or genuine retard?

>>509946251
>>509942855
My impression is that the suicide meme comes in large part from being ejected from a regimented, stable community full of peers going through the same experience as you, back into the wasteland that is modern western society. In past ages, soldiers were still traumatized but had healthy and functioning societies to return to. Can see the same thing in Vietnam veterans, returning to the muck of 1960's and 70's American society.

>>509944254
Best post itt

>>509947367
You call me foreign, bitch, unless you have redskin blood in you. YOU ARE NOT , "american"....also WTF is up with your failed colony being named after a damned wop merchant who thought he landed in India? Is that a free masonic humiliation ritual?

>>509944304
Where you in artillery or demolition? That sounds like micro damage. Shrooms can help with that if you micro dose once a week and then take breaks.

>>509944472
>lieutnant
The first rule of being a good soldier is developing the ability to become invisible to 2lt and lt's. As long as your NCO's know where you are, the lt's are best avoided at all costs.
>If that fails bear hug him and lift his head over the parapet.

>>509946587
What did you do

>>509947573
Your people are throughly eradicated and never coming back, you’re probably mixed with white seed yourself. You speak and write our language. You couldn’t be more conquered.

>>509947573
lmao a fat indian nigger
Shouldn't you be getting drunk and dying in a ditch somewhere, Ira?

>>509942673 (OP)
like bags of sand

>>509946522
They may also have just not talked about it like we do today. In the modern world you have to work highly specialized jobs where you can't have outbursts. Maybe they recognized it back then but didn't think it was something worth studying.

>>509947822
Didn't you hear? They were gunning down civies like ducks in a barrel. That's what that fag probobly did.

Hey hero!! How many civies did you frag? Hero! What's your score? HERO!!

>>509948165
I read tours as hours, thought he did one mission or something

>>509948165
It was more badass starving all the prairie niggers and dropping smallpox on them. So glad I’m related to Andrew Jackson who marched yall to death to your little containment reservations. Most cucked indigenous race in the world.

>>509948567
Meh, the scalps were worth it.
Red man circumsized you faggots where it really mattered.

>>509946983
That's why I said
>until we started to fall apart
Illiterate low IQ kike retard.

>>509948881
You don’t even exist anymore. We scalped your land, your people, your culture, and your balls. Your siblings and cousins are meth addicted alcoholics. You’d be the laughing stock of the world if anyone gave a fuck about your extinct breed. Keep coping by huffing some paint though, it will help your delusions.

>>509949160
Yeah, thanks for the casinos, I guess , but you'll never see a tribal take up arms for your failed colony. Not abroad, not in """america""" or wtf you call this failure.

>>509949512
Nobody wants you to. You’re a failed extinct people. We are just waiting on the last of you to die out. You’re not fit for anything. A neutered people slipping into existing who tarnished what little legacy they have by being worse than the poorest meth head white. You’re a conquered failed mutt race.

>>509949770
Why are you talking to an Indian larping as an American Indian?

>>509949512
Man, can't remember the last time I saw an honest to god injun out in the wild. I didn't think you people had internet.
Reminds me of when I was a kid - around college age. I'm from Oklahoma, so whenever my buddies and I wanted some pussy we'd just drive on down to The Rez with some cheap whiskey. It was so easy it almost wasn't fun. You could pick any girl in town, pretty much. Take em right off their front porch in front of their meemaw, their husband, whatever; they knew better than to fuck with whitey. Wave the bottle and maybe 5 bucks at em and they'd do literally anything you asked. Well, more like indicated, since the dumb bitches didn't speak a lick of english. We'd fuck em in every hole, sometimes all at once. Fuck em in the ass while they cried and they wouldn't even complain. Nope, only thing that would cause trouble is if you tried to take the bottle away. That's when they got uppity, started begging, clawing at you. Hit em once and they'd fuck right off though. Good times.

>>509949853
Poor bastard probably getting flashbacks from the Trail of Tears, to go with his Iraqi PTSD.

Cry some more, paleskin.

>>509943155
because we haven't fought a real war in ages, it's all been murdering and torturing peasant farmers who are just defending their homeland from invaders. Literally the gook/towelhead version of cletus and some of our retard zogbots figure it out and blow their brains out

>>509943645
I don’t know man. The most successful warrior cultures had ritualized killing and they saw the enemy as something more than “kill enemy kill”

>>509947573
shut the fuck up retarded nigger

>>509947462
>soldiers have a harder time adjusting to society than incels
What the fuck are soldiers just like babies or something?
Spent my whole life maladjusted surrounded by people who I don’t understand and don’t like.

>>509943486
almost certainly but they would have been beaten or killed for cowardice if they showed it

>>509951015
Make me, cowboy.

>Combat

This is what zionist Jews call combat.

When they tell you that they fought terrorists.

When they tell you that they fought for your freedom.

>>509943486
No. PTSD is for faggots. Anyone who gets PTSD should have never been conscripted in the first place, they're useless. Only modern pussified men get ptsd mostly because nobody respects them as soldiers and they're slave cuck morality tells them all killing is wrong

>>509942673 (OP)
It's just Russian Roulette with more steps.

>>509944708
but you can't or you'll get PTSD like all the American soldiers. Do you think the average Jihadi gets PTSD after blowing up a truck of U.S. soldiers humming the Disney theme song?

>>509951579
>Do you think the average Jihadi gets PTSD
Probably not since they watched you fuck up their country. There is no moral dilemma.

>>509947573
Theres 2 kinds of injuns on a reservation: those behind the counter and the ones buying booze

>>509944304
>but not in the PTSD nightmare kind of way
You are lying to yourself anon, get help.

>>509944304
>but not in the PTSD nightmare kind of way
anon...

>>509942673 (OP)
>How does experiencing translate to civilian life afterwards
Crippling ptsd

>>509942855
>destroy warrior society and replace it with matriarchy and simps
geee hurrdurr why arent soldiers adjusting well when we've built a completely parallel military force with no loyalty to the nation specifically to hedge against them.

>>509943486
there's been accounts of post traumatic stress from hundreds and hundreds of years ago. The phraseology is different as our understanding of medicine and psychology changes but it's been something that's been dealt with since war has been around.

>>509948165
jesus christ I hope you're an actual child.

>>509951170
>muh poor hecking innocent sand niggerinos!!! this is why we have to car bomb you! we dindu nuffin!!!

I hope you're a shitskin because white people who fetishize and exhalt sand niggers like liberals do black niggers is just as disgusting and just as pathetic.

I jerk off every day to the double digits of niggers of various types I've killed for the government.

>>509942673 (OP)
I think that, for lots of soldiers, war is the most interesting thing they ever get to do in their lives, and they loath this fact. They'd rather have normal memories. They are forced to 'reminisce' about a time they'd rather forget, because it torments them. They don't have normal stories to tell, and talking about their experiences in war invariably makes them cry which is why so many refuse to talk about it.

>>509942673 (OP)
If your country is under constant threat, these people are always needed.
The USA was never under threat since the civil war. PTSD does not stem from combat, it stems from the realisation that all the traumatising experience was for nothing. There was never a threat that warranted such an experience.

>>509942673 (OP)
was at a wedding recently
some flew a drone to film it
when i heard it i immediately instinctually reached for my non existent radio to ask if it's ours
it's kinda hard to wind down
but it's really different between people

>>509952958
Your enemies are suffering a lot more

>>509944304
Probably your brain is wired up for survival now, and it's trying to keep you sharp and alive to any possible situation that can bring you to your last breath.

>>509953057
ye i didn't say anything to the contrary
i didn't suffer at all

>>509953241
That’s a shame

>>509947462
or maybe it has something to do that they realize that went halfway around the world to ruin thousands if not millions of peoples lives so some jew made more shekels? I'll blow my head off too

>>509943486
Yeah, but what they didn’t have is therapy and trauma culture that asks you to think about how fucked up you are all the time, or mass produced and advanced logistics for alcohol, or tobacco products, or manufactured drugs, or a feminized liberal corporatocracy or any of the things that actually make people kill themselves

Roman legionaries got careers in politics and parcels of farm land and told “good job now enjoy your life” and they did

>>509943486
war back then was like 90% dudes with pointy sticks poking each other it wasn't like today

>>509944304
that's ptsd anon
go get benefits at the VA or whatever
unironically
>>509953307
seething

It feels like getting into a fight or a car crash. When you’re on deployment, you start to crave the fight. When it actually happens you both panic and just follow your training subroutines almost subconsciously. When it’s over, it only fucks you up if you dwell on it too much or self destruct for some retarded reason like guilt or whatever.

>>509953514
Correct. You should stop breathing

>>509953565
Have you practiced martial arts?

>>509943775
PTSD got worse with modern combat, constantly being on edge waiting for random death is harder than one grueling battle every month or two. Time to unwind after trauma is good for the mind.

>>509944304
Combat doesn’t help but it’s not the reason you can’t relax anon. You can’t relax because there’s something you should be doing but aren’t or you’re consciously dwelling on your experience or problems. You need to unironically learn to just be a get ‘er done meathead. Everyday you wake up, and you start crossing things off the to-do list, and you do it for four to six hours, everyday you get enough exercise, and everyday you just reject intellectualism and over-thinking and behave a little bit more like a practical dumb jock or frat bro that lives on instinct. Just jockmaxx bro.

>>509953676
I did some BJJ and boxing a long time ago but that’s it

>>509953616
cry about it
>>509953565
it's not uncommon for soldiers to not even remember the details of the engagement or to have large gaps
>>509953781
from the dawn of artillery it was this bad
although i'm not sure ancient combat was better for you psych

>>509950182
Kek everyone in America (surprise, you and me too) is a complete mockery of their predecessors genes. We are genuinely all pale imitations and degraded. Your pride in this is the only actual joke or source of “laughter”, and nobody is laughing because that’s faggot talk. Be yourself whatever the fuck you are and proclaim your peoples manifest destiny. The LARP is R E T A R D E D. You could be doing so much more with your mind on these matters

>>509953850
I used to practice a bunch. I’m not sure if sparring translates to your combat experience

>>509953897
Why are still here? You didn’t even experience combat and admitted you don’t have ptsd. Stop wasting everyone’s time

>>509943486
Feelings hadn't been invented yet and it was perfectly normal that 6 out of 10 kids died. Back then before LiveLeak even the normies went to watch brutal dismembering and bloodshed in the Colosseum. Today if you tell someone you watch videos like that they think you're a psycho.

>>509954004
funny post after suggesting sparring is similar to combat you mong
i would happily post some of my kills but i will respect the others and abstain from gore
dumb nigger
>you don't have ptsd
no
but that's not the main topic and i'm more familiar with it than you

>>509944304
Take care of yourself man

>>509952474
>the don't have normie stories to tell
lol Like your trip to the lake or walmart?
KEK, nigga I got 88 static line jumps from c130s,c17s, chinooks, and blackhawks. I called in A-10 CAS while spamming 25mm chaingun HE at suicidal retards.
NOW? I just beat the fugg outta druggies and gommunists while trying not to get stabbed with one of you faggots AIDs needles.
You? You just piss and shit into the ether which the jews, who btw fuck your ass for a living, watch and laugh as they scrub their servers of you.

>>509954287
I didn’t suggest that, I suggested the opposite. You only killed civilians and people who don’t deserve what you do to them. You are literally the biggest faggot itt and larping as a soldier rn

>>509942673 (OP)
Civilian life is extremely prohibitive. Nothing is allowed. Step out of line and they kill you without mercy. Civilians don't understand how it feels to be alive. They're defanged slave cattle. Distracted, sedated, misled by the lies of women and cowards. The truth is, killing is fun. So much that it turns the weak-willed into addicts. Raping a girl right after killing her father or brother in hand-to-hand combat is the greatest experience a man can have in this world. What do civilians know about that? They believe what their politicians and their TV screens tell them. They believe that killing a man in a fight feels bad. They believe that fighting feels bad. Civilization is turning them into weak degenerates, into self-hating cowards, and they don't even know what's wrong with them.

>>509946957
True but he's still right.
But in reality people just fight for their friends and to survive.

>>509954352
Drones have ruined war forever.

>>509942673 (OP)
Enemies are friends, it's like metephorically knowing Russia could supply Iranian forces with a nuclear weapon any day while your in Israel, but you have to keep being freinds anyway with putinbro and make smalltalk insulting each other about irrelevant shit.

>>509955035
>Civilians don't understand how it feels to be alive. They're defanged slave cattle.

This. Confirmed.

>never watched a mud-hut village get a complimentary JDAM from the nice people who do that sort of thing for fun.

>never see horrors beyond human comprehension and then laugh while lighting a cigarette.

Poor bastards.

>

>>509953313
thats mostly the gist of it. in WW2 memericans were attacked as well technically, so the pacific war has genuine cause for example. war will change you either way, but at least you didnt fight for nothing. any war after that feels orchestrated by the arms race/industry.

>>509942673 (OP)
Jolly Green Giants with guns, my friend. I'm jealous of all the men still young enough to play the game. I would go back in a second if it were physically possible. Getting old fucking sucks.....

>>509943486
Yeah then they went to Germany and then they got fucking murdered

>>509943486
lol no. They were not pussies. Pussies died at 3 y/o in those times

>>509942673 (OP)
>How does experiencing translate to civilian life afterwards?
Depends on what the person did. If they were in the shit, then you never stop thinking about it
>>509943486
100 percent some did but, remember the average infantryman today sees FAR more combat than at any time in History.

>>509953423
I'd rather be instadeleted by 5 ton bomb than have a shard of steel stuck in my gut and bleed out in the mud for hours m8

>>509954419
haven't killed a single civilian >>509953932

>>509957636
I know they had people after battle who would walk around asking if people wanted to be mercy killed
They were built different back then

>>509951125
All memeflags are assumed Indian until proven Israeli.

>>509942673 (OP)
I worked with a guy that got shot up in Afghanistan. We finally got him talking about it and he said it's the best and worst experience you could possibly have.

>>509944304
This sounds similar to Tetris Effect.

>>509957093
Combat was then was different than today, today's combat-related psychological toll is mostly caused by the constant threat of being struck by bullets, bombs, shells or drones at any moment
In older days it was caused by having to repeatedly go face to face with your enemy and stabbing/bludgeoning it. It was less of a constant threat but when it came to the moment of actual combat twas orders of magnitude more brutal, personal and gruesome than modern fighting is, which being ranged is far more impersonal and polished and deaths are far quicker and painless. Remember that video of the snowgook and the hohol knifing each other in Ukraine? Think that but X 10K

>>509957772
Probably a lot of looters killing survivors to take their stuff too lol

>>509958345
Grim shit. Humans fucking suck lel

>>509943486
Probably but you just retired with the rest of your bros and all settled the same village together on the Roman government's dime

>>509942673 (OP)
>What is combat like?
Ironical:

>>509942673 (OP)
It's awesome. Best rush of your life.

>>509942673 (OP)
During the first Iraq War there were military contractors who were killed and strung up from a bridge. One of them was an ex Navy SEAL, but he was a Redneck. His job before he took the Iraq job was security guard at a mobile home park in San Diego. No one here likes all the shit bag ex-military who do not want to go home, so most local thought this was a just ending.

>>509943486
Yes

>>509942673 (OP)
Solid Snake: " .... Unfortunately, killing gets easier the more you do it "

>>509947511
Because everyone else is either larping or retarded. I've been in combat, it's not "fun". Urban combat is hell, and not exciting hell.

>>509958965
Glad you made it out

>>509942673 (OP)
Meh. It mostly make me want to punch cops that cry about how dangerous their jobs are. How many firefights have you been in? None?

>>509959209
What about cops who are combat vets

>>509959287
>What about cops who are combat vets
Wouldn't trust them, no honest and honorable soldier would want to become a cop.

The again combat vet has a range. Is the company clerk that was in theater a combat veteran? How about the 3rd line mechanic?
Yeah the infantry leaving a COP doing foot patrols every day is as are everyone rolling out for QRF.
I guess my point come back to have you been handed a sandbag full of hands and feet blown off by a bomb in a market and were asked to match up parts with dead bodies? Ever get splattered by hot lead from a bullet impact hitting an armored vehicle? Pull out a burning bit of shell casing from your uniform and now you have a small burn scar on your chest from it?

My old unit commander went to fight in Ukraine and was holding the steel mill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Cadieu
I'd trust him with my life and did. He'd would never ever become a cop.

>>509960256
Wow, that’s nuts

>>509943486
>Do you think Roman legionnaires had ptsd?
Not as often, but there are plenty of accounts with flourishing words describing PTSD. Shit like
>He was haunted by the ghosts of the men he slain in battle.
and shit like that. You can tell it's referring to PTSD symptoms, but it just wasn't understood the same way. Rome might've had greats like Aurelius and Caesar, but it's fun to realize how fucking similar similar the plebs were to us.

>>509942673 (OP)
Feels just like a video game until you're shot or have your legs blown off. Then its just really, really gay.

>>509943155
That's because you fags don't fight wars. Go choke on spagoot, nigger.

>>509960544
Do you think they felt guilty? The haunted ones I mean

>>509942673 (OP)
it is anti human bullshit and most soldiers signed up to deal with anti humans. Not to work for corporate globohomo goals to steal minerals, its misuse of good people. IMO

>>509942855

in post-war germony pretty much the entire population should've crawled up in a fetal position over "ptsd" by todays standards.

>>509942673 (OP)
It's like fucking 1000 in one day but for a worse price and more traumatizing, soldiers are bigger whores than prostitutes and also way more cheaper

>>509961073
This chick is mentally ill lol

>>509960338
Maybe my PTSD is knowing cops are cowards and violent psychopaths that like to hurt people.
Most of the Taliban that we fought were just the old internal security force (state police) rolled over into a fighting force against the new government.

Imagine that after an election all the police turned into rebels and started terrorizing the general population even more than they normally did. The incoming Afghan National Police fucking hated the Taliban, while the Afghan Army guys kinda viewed them as jerk that needed to get their teeth kicked in. The ANP was made up of northern city people that hated the fuck out of the Southern Tribal fucktards.

The joke "It's not waterboarding if you use diesel" was real for the ANP and once they were done with the questions would light the guys on fire.

>>509943486
this is something that I've thought of a lot, especially the fact that back then in ancient Greece and Rome, the battles were almost exclusively fought in close quarters, and everyone got chopped up left and right all around you. The thing is that back then people fought on the battlefield for decades, and were forced to be way more disciplined in their lives than they are today. The average Legionnaire or Hoplite could serve/fight for 40 years or more - even if they got promoted, they were still expected to fight on the field, even a centurion would join his men and fight in the front lines.
Another thing is that almost all wars were fought to conquer land, and this is why infantry was so important - the only way to capture and hold land, was via infantry. Today land is not that important. We've got small nations like Switzerland that are extremely wealthy. In ancient times, it would have been impossible for such a small nation to retain its independence.
By extension almost all wars were by definition existential, and this certainly affected the way men fought and how fierce they were.

>>509943486
>>509961849
Here's an article about it from the guy who wrote a bunch of books about Rome.
https://historiamag.com/roman-ptsd/
tl;dr it probably happened sometimes but life was so much rougher back then that they could handle it better

>>509943486
this

I did unspeakable things and loved every second of it.

Like mix of barbar and urban tactics. It was them or us thing. In my village i defend mostly local town. But we fucked with lots of Serbs. Fuck Serbs.

No ptsd. I rent out boats now and do water taxi. Life is good.

>>509949512
You're a fucking idiot lol I met all kinds of Natives in the Army, their families would be all "red, white and blue" when they visited them for Army family events.

>>509947822
He sucked off goat farmers for Intel and then he molested kids all in the name of democracy

>>509952958
I wish you died

>>509963410
oh noes

>>509948158
i heard this too. they just didn't make a big deal out of killing, so there was no social contagion part to the mental issues. same as "running amok" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amok_syndrome) happens in Malaysia, but we get school shootings instead.

>>509946522
>>509948158
They try to call this "paranoid schizophrenic", too.
The whole medical empire is just human management for politicians.

>>509963853
you are very sheltered

>>509942673 (OP)
they can just become a cop, the idf training will carry over seamlessly

Surprised nafo niggers aren't shitting this thread up with drone slop

>>509964110
That would be bad, but not the worst thing in the thread currently

>>509943486
Yeah. The 'medical' terminology wasn't formed back then, but there's accounts of people experience seeing 'ghosts' that haunt them, people they've killed and have lost during the wars throughout the Roman expansion. It's also referenced in different plays and writing as well, and modern historians speculate that these visions they see are PTSD. What's different though is that the culture of death and dying was more prevalent or upfront compared to 'modern' times, meaning that they should embrace death as early as possible. Compared to us where we have our comforts and distractions, any form of death would be a major shock because we haven't grown up seeing this sort of stuff. It's the same as child soldiers - they grow up used to seeing others die and killing. They're fucked in a way, but they've found a way to proper cope with it.

>>509942673 (OP)
I’m perfectly fine. I truly enjoyed killing Muslims. It was extremely fun. Just hung out with my boys, lifted two hours a day, and a few nights a week we got to go for a helicopter ride and a walk and fuck some people up.
>How does it translate to civilian life?
I really hate fat people, dudes that have long hair, and Muslims.

>>509942855
It’s a meme. Tons of people enlist so tons of people kill themselves. The per capita rate is only slightly inflated and that’s because of booze, divorce, and Timmy breaking up with his fucking girlfriend. Half the fucking suicides I saw when I was in were 19-20 year old slick sleeves.

>>509946251
>The Taliban, Hamas and Hezbollah are more than probably circumcized (muslims) but they do it at way later ages where the male understands
They also have Islam filling their brains which stops them thinking too much about it. It also explicitly bans suicide and glorifies killing non-muslims.

>>509963080
>I did unspeakable things

>>509952958
you should of died.

>>509963080
you played stalker as your parents worked their ass off and now your posting fantasies on 4chan trying to larp away depression.

>>509950549
I wonder if it's because you have such delusions about being super heroes and fighting for good. Normal people just fight for their nation and don't obsess about being good. But then it's not like terrorising sandniggers feels good unless you're a psycho so mutts kys. The few mutt veterans I've talked to through online gaming just seemed like depressed losers done with the world.

>>509953241
die faggot.

>>509963657
die faggot.

>>509965083
maybe
but your relatives can't aim for shit so i'm still her
pic related
>>509965463
two for one

>>509965515
>Pic
Oh man I can smell the diesel fumes already

>>509944304
Why do you believe that you don't have PTSD?

>>509942673 (OP)
nothing is more miserable and more amazing than being a soldier at war. going back to civilian life reminds you of how shit paying taxes and being subordinate to people you could kill feels. once you get a taste of barbarity you can never go back.

>>509942855
That’s a good outcome for zogbots

>>509943645
>he’s an uncivilized baboon

>>509947611
do this

>>509944620
Good on ya cunt. Welcome home.

>>509943155
Plenty of Italian, German, Soviet, Japanese, etc had it.
These threads always make me realize how clueless most of /pol/ actually is IRL.
They always assume you get PTSD or something from killing people. I don't feel bad for a single sand nigger I killed. You get PTSD from seeing your friends die horrible deaths, and almost being killed yourself time and time again.
If it doesn't fuck you up after watching your friend get blown all over the inside of a vehicle while he's still screaming bloody murder and a few minutes later fades away and dies all the while getting shot at while covered in his blood and pieces of him and trying to get out of an ambush, then you're a psychopath, congrats.
I wish I had killed more people, that was the actual fun part lol.

>>509952958
ill pray for you hebe

>>509966163
>killing people because some Jews took your foreskin
Insane

>>509966253
muslims dont have foreskins

>>509966253
how do you explain all the shit your soldiers did in GWOT?

>>509965626
we had one that ran too rich and that was horrible
you couldn't stand next to it without your eyes watering and a burning sensation from the inside
the crew couldn't drive it without being buttoned in
>>509966189
thanks?

>>509966434
Psychological castration by the Tavistock institute. Dissatisfaction against their own government being directed towards foreign governments and peoples, a bottled up, violent, and angry working class being sent abroad to fight and die, allowed an outlet, a red flag to the bull to distract it whilst they prepare the sword. A hollow victory that rang like a bell, crowds cheering victory for Britain's death knell

Modern Western soldiers are just pussies. That's why it's so cringe to see them running around with Spartan patches and whatnot. Bitch, the actual historical Spartans would have beaten your weak pussy ass to death and laughed about it. If anything, our Islamic jihadi enemies are much better torch bearers for the ancient warrior ethos of our ancestors. They fucking love combat and killing and are jubilant about the idea of dying in battle. They're perfectly happy to strap a bomb to their chest just to kill their enemies in battle. And they do it for free too. The only pay they want is war brides and an assurance that they'll enter into eternal paradise. In comparison, Western troops bitch and moan and throw a hissy fit over their retirement pay getting reduced by 1%. And they all get crippling PTSD at the drop of a hat and kill themselves, even when their bitch ass didn't even see combat.

>Oy vey. Somebody just shot a mortar at my base and it hit the KFC. I can't sleep at night now and I need to be on SSRIs for the rest of my life!

Meanwhile, Achmed is charging into battle with a fucking rusty AK or RPG screeching Allahu Ackbar!!! at the top of his lungs and is ready to behead your pussy ass if he catches you.

Modern Western soldiers are an absolute disgrace. They can't even win wars despite having a literal annual trillion dollar defense budget. We need to go back on spitting on them like the Vietnam War era again.

>>509955035
>Raping a girl
what do you mean achmed, you shitskins raping and murdering women and children in civilian life too
you do not belong to civilization though, its insane that we let it get to this point where jews just let you in

>>509955035
its you in this picrel, right?

>>509957636
yeah the problem is that you will be on the edge of the effective radius of the bomb and you would see you friend, who is 12 feet closer, get his head exploded by shrapnel

>>509960256
This narrative is consistent with a Canadian Afghanistan vet I used to work with. He had to deal with some pretty raw stuff. He did mention cleaning up bomb scenes like this. He had to rinse some friends out of the back of an APC too. He occasionally talked about how fucked the politics were and how savage some of the allied Afghani forces were. He recounted some really fucked up shit they did to prisoners. I get the impression that it was still a pretty mixed bag, like it was really difficult to be normal after coming home. He couldn't take work very seriously because nothing ever felt that serious. He talked pretty fondly about ripping around in a leopard with the boys and simultaneously how exhausting and shitty it was to get shot at. He had a lot of humanity for a guy who went through what he went through. He had a lot of sympathy for refugees escaping war and that kinda stuck with me. I think it's hard for a lot of guys just because the afghanistan war didn't really accomplish anything.

>>509943486
It's called shell shock for a reason.

>>509944620
>you realize there is a real enemy to fight here and few are even aware of it
and worst of all, the enemy is INSIDE the gates, in our homes
a foreign hostile tribe, owning the media and the bank, has overtaken the government
and most people dont even realize that is the real enemy and always has been

>>509943512
Thx anon

>>509942673 (OP)
its fucking great.

high chance of dying

>>509943486
The phenomenon seems to go back all the way to ancient times, so yeah, probably

>>509967919
Life goes on

>>509951579
Why would they feel bad?
You are in their country killing civilians and destabilizing the country for jews
The zogbots who realize they had been killing innocent people for jews all along obviously can get ptsd if they are White as Whites have a conscience
It helps though that lot of people in USA today are kalergimutts who are like niggers and dont care about that , niggers will literally put another nigger to a pot and eat it and feel nothing because they are not human

>>509967193
>Western soldiers are pussies
We slaughtered the Muslims in every engagement.
>Spartan Patches
Yes cringe
>Ackshual Spartans
Would have eaten 5.56 and died just like the muzzies did
>Islamists are actually based
They make bread with their feet, rape little boys, and cry out to a fake god as they bleed out
>They love combat
They love the idea of combat. They die in actual combat
>Jubilant about dying in battle
No I’ve watched them die slow and the ones that are conscious generally have that same helpless defeated look you see in beheading or torture videos.
>They’re happy to strap a bomb to their chest
Can’t argue that. Pretty fucking retarded though.
>They do it for free
Actually they get scammed into it with promises of a fake afterlife
>They want war brides
Yet get nothing. Seems less cool than getting free college and rent.
>Western troops bitch about retirement pay going down
Sounds like yuropoor problems. Americans don’t have that issue
>Crippling PTSD
More than half of those are just niggers, beaners, and trailer trash begging for gibs and yes it’s cringe
>Kill themselves
Meme
>Muhammad charges into battle
More like slinking around some mountain working up the balls to try to cross the border and trying to work out how to do it without getting smoked
>Western soldiers are a disgrace
I can only speak for America. I do think it’s pretty cringe that multiple allied nations have basically designed their entire military around being a QRF
>We need to go back to spitting on them
Feel free to try pussy. You won’t do shit. Because you’re a coward kek.

>>509953781
yeah modern combat is extremely gay and also dysgenic after we invented killing machines beyond human comprehension
when war was fighting with your body and the strongest surviving and none of the "oops you stepped into a mine and suddenly died" , "oops some fat faggot on other side of world drone striked you" etc bullshit wars were still eugenic, now its anything but

>>509954287
riding through residential neighborhoods in a tank killing civilians is not being a soldier its being a jew

>>509968103
>Why would they feel bad?
They wouldn’t. Their too fucking retarded to see how backwards they are
>Youre in their country killing civilians
Eh. Only civilians we killed were literally in the room with the guys we were after. Don’t want your kids to get grenades? Don’t fucking shoot at us from your bedroom.
>Killing innocents for Jews
Wrong I did it because it was fun
>Conscience
Fag word for cowards as an excuse for why they’re losers
>Gore
B- attempt Ahmed. I can tell you’re a pissed off muslim by your flag lol

>>509968434
>muh poor civilians

>>509968434
>Jews
Nigger hush. You take the meds, swipe that plastic card, pay the loan, eat the slop, and vote in your fake elections just like everyone else.

>>509943686
I wish I could travel back to 2012 and fuck you in the ass

>>509968647
That’s fucking gay, and you should stop being a queer

>>509958588
Since 1968, Blacks have killed 100,000 more Whites than Whites have Blacks in USA.
People don't realize that 100,000 White deaths by Black hands is more than the US combat casualties in 20-year Vietnam War, 20-year Afganistan war, 8-year Iraq War and 3-year Korean War COMBINED.

The real war is in right there in their homelands, yet nobody is doing anything about it and removing the hostile foreign tribes, because jews - another hostile tribe - has psyopped them not to do anything

>>509968678
How is me wanting to shoot a huge load in your ass gay?

>>509968759
It’s not only gay, but should be punishable by death
Lucky for you, it’s not

>>509952368
You people get PTSD because India was never a warrior nation.
My ancestors would slaughter and get slaughter for millenias.
Desire to rape, kill and pillage still flows through our slavoid veins.

Any Ex-Military guys would like to comment on nearly 80% of Gen Z being illegible for service and apparently they’re struggling to recruit?
IIRC there’s been a sudden uptick of more women enlisting into the military as well. I remember years ago I attempted to enlist into the Marines and some tiny scrawny preppy white girl was yapping to the recruiter about what she’d love to do after enlisting like going to university and traveling to Spain or something.

>>509961067
You were fighting for a just cause though - for humanity - you were fighting against jews, not for them

>>509968598
Jews often times avoid PTSD through sheer hatred towards their enemies and not seeing them as humans.
Admirable

>>509968816
I wanna cover your turds with jizz. I want you to suck my dick while I fuck your ass and cum. It'll feel really good (for me). It's not gay.

>>509969018
I want you to die horribly, and your dad who raped you to die after that
Hope that helps

>>509943512
>Common sentiments among people who have had to kill for jews
ftfy

>>509969011
the reason you get ptsd isn't because you pity your enemy

>>509969065
It feels so good when I cum inside your doodoopussy.

>>509969085
No it's because you realize the lives you took and the lives you lost were for nothing. Enjoy.

>>509969180
It would feel better if you had a bullet in your head with your faggot dad watching

>>509969085
it is

humans are able to kill animals with ease because they view such act as neccessary for their survival.
On top of that, animals and their experience is too diffrent to one humans have

>>509969185
>No it's because you realize the lives you took and the lives you lost were for nothing. Enjoy.

Your goal as a man is to best another man.

Shut the fuck up with your moral fagging.

>>509969258
Hey everyone, this guy likes when I come to his house late at night and take his clothes off and smack his pink little balls and shoot ropes on his face and fuck his ass and pinch his nipples and piss in his mouth. Come watch. He loves it when people watch me while I wreck his ass.

>>509969328
>no morals
I've obviously bested you.

>>509969391
You suck at this, and try too hard. Your dad never tried with you, other than those days he raped you. You poor thing, your tears are music to my ears, you faggot
I hope when you die your dad doesn’t rape your body too hard, it would be a shame if he died happy

>>509944304
and all of this isn't even in a controlled environment and without an intentional direction. now imagine what's possible with actual and intentional trauma programming
that's why I like to imagine ptsd as an involuntary and undirected self trauma programming

>>509969474
Too bad I built a time machine and went back in time to when you were six and molested you. It felt great.

>>509942673 (OP)
Perfectly fine. Combat is scary and fun. Eventually it gets boring. You'll do more ballsy things to get that feel. By the end your nervous system is shot and finding stimuli is really hard. Video games and serial killing help.

>>509969460
Id surely best you in an honorable rape-off.
Slavs were gaping sissies like you for mere centuries

>>509969546
That is also something you have to imagine, unlike the trauma of feeling your dad’s cock. You dad, what a man. He really knows how to make them, like how he made you a faggot

>>509942855
That's usually the youngsters these days. society is an atomized shithole with nothing to offer them when they get back beyond some discounts at mcdickholes. The older heads don't do it because they're too stubbornly wired to cling to a shitty situation as long as possible. All while they never actually talk about it.

don't fight wars.

>>509969615
The reason you can only think about "dad's cock" is because when I molested you, I gave you my cock and made you call me daddy. Now it's being sublimated into your idea of a "counter-argument"

>>509969595
My rape is morally superior to yours. My cum is the nectar of God. You are unworthy.

>>509946522
Ancient warefare was unironcally like sportsball but instead of kicking a ball with your bros your stabbing cunts with your bros.
You also get rewarded with real wealth like land.
Warefare went to shit after industrial revolution enabled mass production and more advanced weapons.

>>509968632
Shit so you are just a kike larper
Go eat some foreskins and rape kids, vile shlomo

>>509969726
Last faggot that talked to me like that got raped (it was OP)

>>509969725
Ha, you’re fucking your script up. Idk why you would feel bad, everything I said about your faggot dad is true. He would die horribly and everyone would laugh

>>509969185
don't worry i know what i fought for
>>509969266
ptsd is mostly from the your survival system
after being in a constant state of having your fighting instincts turned on your brain gets rewired
so when you come back to civilian life your brain doesn't switch back
as well as trauma, like seeing your friends die

>>509969809
>op got raped
You can't rape the willing. Are you sure you want to keep responding to me?

>>509969809
That can’t be true, your dad is still here and a faggot
For now anyways, aids is still a killer

>>509969860
As long as you keep your head in the sand you'll be fine.

Mostly, its people shooting at people from long distances in my experience, I thankfully never participated in urban combat. Thankfully for me old Russian RPGs dud and dont explode when theyre launched. Faggot trying to use a n00b t00b to kill me

>>509969908
I raped OP so good. He cried and peed. I'll rape you too if you don't watch your attitude

>>509969908
His dad was a willing faggot, the guy you’re responding to is not

>>509968349
wars are still eugenic, in an environment where war is a constant
those who survive are smart, devious or otherwise lucky enough to escape the meatgrinder, one way or another
sure, it won't be Chad Chadwick the IVth
it'll be the sociopaths, the schizos too dangerous to be trusted with a gun or a drone, the 300lb bassement dwellers... mutants, in search of new niches

>>509943486
The majority of deaths in warfare in ancient times weren't actually combat-related. They were mostly disease and fatigue related. They would spend like 90% of their time camping in a nearby position and then only spend a total of 48 hours fighting at most. Compare that to soldiers starting with WW1 being kept up 24/7 by the vibrations of bombardments, which caused nerve damage. Modern transport also meant you would be much more mobile and that means less mental breaks between engagements.

>>509969959
How was Helmand province?

>>509969986
You got raped verbally by me and you will never recover. It’s so overwhelmingly obvious kek

>>509969987
You don't need to be this mad. I built a time machine, traveled back to when you were 6, raped you and came in your ass. It's not like that's illegal. Just calm down. You're getting really mad over a little bit of rape.

>>509969085
Yeah the problem of Holohoax not happening is that Hitler had pity for your miserable kind.
He shouldn't have built deportation camps for all amenities for your people, but simply rounded you up and shot you and dumped into a ditch
>inb4 mooslime
If it wasnt for your faggot kind, there would be zero non-whites in White countries and muslims would be living in their own sandboxes and we would never have to interact with them in anyway
Next time around it'll be real tho

>>509968925
>comment on nearly 80% of Gen Z being illegible for service
ineligible. see my comment here: >>509970012

>>509942673 (OP)
>What is combat like?
short answer: fuck

>>509970107
Why would I be mad. I don’t have a fag dad. Unlike you, that is
You’re so fucking angry it’s hilarious

>>509969986
I want to rape you more than you want to rape me.

>>509970150
I can't believe how mad you are! You KEEP replying to the guy who time-raped you. It felt so good.

>>509969955
we are righteous
and everyone i shot deserved a much worse ending than a 50 cal bullet
>>509970110
>>inb4 mooslime
i did bother reading all of that
but if we are on that topic
post your hand then

>>509970223
Let's agree to disagree and both rape OP

>>509970012
>it'll be the sociopaths, the schizos too dangerous to be trusted with a gun or a drone, the 300lb bassement dwellers... mutants, in search of new niches
this is my point, the dysgenics prevail
you cant build a functioning civilization out of dysgenic people, you can already see this in jews and muslims due to their 1400 years of inbreeding

>>509970242
You aren’t convincing, and now you’re just boring.

>>509970334
Malding, and broken

>>509970355
>39 pbtid
39 is also the diameter of your ass (in inches) when I get done raping it

>>509970252
>post your hand then
i'll do one better, i post my face

>>509970432
thanks for saying the quiet part out loud

>>509970334
I'm sorry but it's not up to me.

>>509970424
My thread. And you’re really not funny. This is fucking cringe now.

>>509970483
Listen pal, I'm GONNA rape OP again. If you are gonna be a fag about it, I'll rape you too. I'll turn your ass into Swiss cheese

>>509942855
i really dont see the issue of somehow turning back into a civvie just because you killed someone in combat. i see the issue of life of military then trying to go back to civvie life being an issue. plenty of civilians kill people all the time.

>>509942673 (OP)
>translate to civilian life
It doesn't. You can only chose one side of that dichotomy.

>>509969799
No you’re just going to call anything and everything Jewish despite killing muzzies being officially based because you’re a fucking Syrian that had to flee to a frozen shithole when we bombed your gay little mud hut. You fucking deserved it too.

>>509970597
The only thing that can save you from being raped at this point is submitting to the God that is my cock and taking it consensually. Barring that please tell me how you don't like it.

>>509970804
The only one who cries about "not liking it" while getting raped is OP. Me and him aren't the same.

>>509944472
Officers being faggots is truly an eternal concept.

>>509970778
Do you think jews belong in White countries?

>>509970866
You would like it you fag.

>>509970038
There’s an old Soviet plane that got shot down and the green bean is as shitty as anywhere else

>>509970965
>Not denying he’s Muslim
Kek
>Do Jews belong in white countries?
No. Do Muslims? No. So go back where you came from. We’re done bombing it. For now kek.

>>509942673 (OP)
There was a good thread about anons' experiences serving in iraq/afghan last week
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/509269969/
Lots of pictures and personal stories in there

>>509944304
Sleeping with some noise can help a ton to break up the wandering mind from tunneling in on shit. I take a sleep aid now, which maybe you should consider, but the TV is nice to lock in while I wait to pass out.

>>509971002
Wrong, pal. The only time I enjoy rape is when I'm doing the raping

>>509943486
Idk but WW1 veterans had "shell shock" as they called it.

>>509971276
Modern artillery men are getting the same TBI symptoms. They reckon its from all the minor concussions to the brain from the pressure changes while firing the canons.

>>509951093
Sometimes yes and they’re all criminals depending on your/their flag.

>>509971247
Then you're going to hate it when I rape you.

>>509971220
i got one of those air purifier fan things that puts off a really comfy white noise.

>>509971419
>Theyre all criminals!
You talk like a complete faggot. They made it legal for us to kill the muzzies and we did.

>>509971367
It's probably not good for you

>>509942673 (OP)
>it's grim, forged in fire, leader of men

>>509944304
try MDMA
stay warm and comfy during the trip, treat yourself to all the creature comforts you can think of
a beer is fine, ten is a mistake
touch things. touch yourself if you feel like. touch a woman if you have one and she's not a complete bitch

>To the victor belong the spoils

>>509942673 (OP)
War is horror, UShitholer. Real horror no restart button and your hand/leg/arm/heart valves are gone. Forever. You do not know what it means. There is no cure, and the upcoming drone swarms will 10fold that.

>>509966835
youre welcome
ptsd, however small is no laughing matter

>>509971472
Last guy who talked to me like that got raped

>>509971514
Good, here's hoping it helps a bit. Not to sound like a faggot, but it does get easier the further out you get. You'll always be off, but you can adapt well enough over time to make it work. Hope you find your peace brother.

>>509971851
keep some gum on hand I've fucked up my teeth from clenching my jaw.

>>509971816
>No optic
God the navy is so gay. Fag Democrat officers, one day of weapon equal where they don’t even have to hit anything, like 15 different uniforms so they can accessorize, and boring ass missiles instead of big fucking cannons these days.

>>509971883
If you got ptsd from combat, well that's natural for a sane sympathetic person, mentally fit for combat
If you didn't get ptsd, mentally fit for combat

>>509972060
>yossarian
arent you on youtube

>>509971875
Nigger your flag says German which means the closest you’ve come to war was delivering us some MREs and toilet paper while we ran exercises in your gay country we had to conquer or you’re a Muslim too cowardly to stand and fight and the horror you speak of is just another fucking Tuesday for us. You’re simply bitch made krautfag.

>>509972169
An ode
Idk that YouTube faggot but it's probably a reference to the same book

>>509972007
Thank you for the kind words but I'm actually not a veteran. I just wanted to suggest the air purifier for anyone that has trouble sleeping.

>>509971965
>stolen valor
Fags like you and OP can't be raped cuz you like it.

>>509943486
Some of the turks who saw Vlad the impaler's work did. Scared the fuck out of them. Only problem is people can adjust to any level of cruelty

>>509972030
good point
oh and stay hydrated

>>509972442
OP might like getting raped, but I don't. And I'll prove it by raping OP

>>509972646
So you're saying you're rapeable?

>>509964017
elaborate. i was just saying there's a theory.

>>509970486
Get in here and tell
>>509972910
That YOU'RE the only one ITT who gets raped

>>509942673 (OP)
i blocked most of it out. i refuse to think about it long enough to tell you anything about it. but afterwards im a ruined man. that's how it translates to civilian life.

>>509944390
Ancient Battle-Bots: Maritime edition

>>509943893
The Punic wars were real wars. It wasn't about defeating the enemy's military forces and then having some meeting, occupying their land with a garrison, reparations, disarming them, or any of that bullshit. It was about exterminating them as a people. All of them. Civilians, women, and children. Totally obliterating their language, religion and culture. Wiping out their genetics and populating their land with your own
What we have in the modern age is theater. Half measures which ensure forever wars will continue across the generations. No, not even half measures actually, more like 10%.
One of the few modern military western thinkers was Bomber Harris, who correctly identified the German people as the enemy, not just the Wehrmacht.
If wars were fought like the Punic wars then either wars would not happen, because the stakes are just too high, or if they did happen the resolution would be permanent.
Its why the West has such difficulty "winning" conflicts in the Middle East. They people they invade still see war as an existential crisis. They keep fighting, using absolutely any means at their disposal, including their own women and children, the war is never over until they have won. Now if the USA had gone into Afghanistan, for example, and just systemically worked its way across the country exterminating every person in sight, and then imported ten million of its own civilians to colonize the land, then that would be victorious war. But that's politically impossible with western society. Which is why they lose before they even begin.
>>509944304
From what you and others have said about the effects of sleep deprivation and constant exposure to combat stress it sounds like the military is grossly incompetent in managing the efficiency of its combat soldiers. Considering the tooth-to-tail ratio of the US army is as high as 10:1 there should be adequate rotation of front line troops.

>>509944304
Anon, I...

>>509947573
you know american "natives" weren't even the first ones on american land right?

>>509942673 (OP)
>How does experiencing translate to civilian life afterwards?
Combat is the ultimate surrogate activity, but it is the most authentic surrogate activity in which it is actually possible to complete the power process by participating. So many people who experience real fighting don't want to return to normal life especially if they don't get their ass whipped. The glory of winning a real fight is something indescribable. It is like being addicted to horror movies. Extreme sports are boring in comparison. I understand why Alexander the Great kept going until he was killed. Him and I both know he was never going home. He was not just going to go back to Athens to party with stupid hoes and pretend like this is a real experience. When Caesar returned to Rome he wasn't just going to wait outside and camp in the bushes.

Someone asked me today what do I do now.
>pppfffffhhh
not enough

>>509972646
>Please consent

>>509973048
>doesn't want to be raped
Now I'm excited to rape you.

>>509946522
nah, its the killing and dying for jewish bankers, returning home with no spoils, no glory, no wife, the economy ruined, every single conceivable thing worse than you left

>>509973415
Wasn't talking to you, kike but I'll rape you too

>>509942673 (OP)
PTSD. My mind never came home from afghanistan. It's still geared for combat. I dont feel right unless I'm a high stress situation. Because that's when the stars align and I can finally think. I know it shouldn't be this way. But I cant heal. I'm too angry at my country for abusing and mistreating me. Not just when I was in the army. But for my entire life. I'm a straight white man. I've been discriminated against since before I was born. And I'm angry. I want revenge. That's why I wont return to service ever again. I will fight against this country if needed. Because I refuse to be used by this country gain and fight another jewish war.

>>509973389
we had the koryos for a reason
it is a rite of passage for a man to kill to a fucking jew with his bare hands

>>509973824

>>509971164
Am not a muslim, in fact I fucking hate them, but I do hate nonwhites in my home equally, they're all invaders.
Your actions, defending jews, is what causes non-whites in White countries.
You do realize that the 1965 Immigration Act that opened the doors to non-whites 60 years ago, was penned and pushed by jews?
Without the jews, you'd still be living in a White ethnostate bliss.
1960 America was 90% White. Now you are 40% White. All because jews are breathing. Let that sink in.

>>509943889
Or maybe, just maybe, traveling over seas to kill or be killed by someone who you have never met to enrich a bunch of safe old men back home is itself the retarded idea.

>>509974170
How are you not in prison you well poisoning glowie fedposter
Also, you won't do shit