Is it safe to say this admin is worse than Biden when it comes to fucking over the poor and middle class?
This new bill is a straight up attack on everyone that doesnt make seven figures a year. We are SPEEDRUNNING off the fucking cliff the past 6 months

>>509952490 (OP)
Why should other people pay your debts? What are you, a nigger?

Student loan forgiveness benefits the rich more than the poor and there is no middle class anymore.

>>509953061
>>509952947
This shithole truly is just 95% bots and shills

>>509953061
The rich don't need to take out student loans dumbass

>>509952490 (OP)
>Among Americans aged 20-35, the highest average student loan debt is black women, at $11,000
>Second highest is white women, at $9,600

No to the shitskin/roastie bailout!

>>509952490 (OP)
Oy vey goyim no college for you we need that money to bomb Iran and spy on you!

Pay up or we'll start garnishing.

>>509952490 (OP)
But at least you will have a job anon, if you enlist in the army, that is.

>>509953917
im paying back $150k lump sum. i plan to offset this by cheating on my taxes and abusing public services.

>>509953866
You're joking, right? You're in favor of student loan forgiveness lol? No one needs their crappy philosophy degree loan forgiven. Why should you pay for someone else's history degree?

>>509952490 (OP)
Black women have the highest student loan balances and the majority of tax payers have no student loan debt. You're trying to burden a hundred million productive people with paying the bills of black women because you think it can also get your $10k of outstanding debt moved onto someone else too. You're like a bum who breaks someone's window to get $0.47 in loose change, because it brings you a little bit closer to your next bottle of booze, and don't care that it's going to cost the person whose car it is $470 to repair. Basically, you're acting like a nigger.

You took out the loan with the promise of paying it back. Even I know this and you wonder why I never went to college: I aint paying six figures for an advanced work permit.

>>509953362
>>509953708
See this, bud.

>>509952490 (OP)
>tfw only got an associates degree 15 years ago
>am a welder making shitloads of cash for a job nobody else wants to do
>OP thinks I should cover the cost of someones social study's degree they got at Harvard about underwater basket weaving therapy
kys

>>509952947
Why does the American taxpayer have to bail out the federal government, banks and investment firms? Fuck you. They made a bad investment. Sucks to suck.

>>509954574
how much is 'shitloads of cash'?

>>509954574
>for a job nobody else wants to do
In all honesty, nobody wants blindness and COPD.

>>509954574
THIS. SO. MUCH. THIS.
>>509953362
You're a Biden supporter if you disagree with this truth.

>>509954252
I think we can all agree that just depriving universities from that money would be a good thing. That's not what's proposed, but it is what i am proposing.

>>509954802
>blindness
I'm sorry Mr. Turd Worlder, we use these things called welding masks.

>>509953708
Well yeah they went and got a bunch of “degrees” that don’t teach a single thing. While a history major isn’t a skill, it’s still better than women’s/nigger “studies” or “early education” (a state teaching certificate takes care of that) or “social work.”

>>509952490 (OP)
This shit is hilarious because, the whole time while Trump was trying to get his Build Back Better bill passed and an anon would mention the deficit in /ptg/ those mother fuckers would unironcally tell you that the debt doesn't even matter.

And now they simp for NATO lmao.

>>509954574
You already covered the cost when the government gave them the loan you stupid faggot lol.

>>509954915
I'm not sure that's possible in all scenarios.

>>509954252
Nobody should pay for anyone else’s loan but I have to defend my history degree as a major in how to write academic literature and it has fared me very well in my professional career. Knowing how to find information and cite it in a clean turabian format got me jobs, kept me employed, and proved my superior intellect in a sea of niggercattle. Philosophy on the other hand is trash. They don’t look at reality. Philosophy is all shit that’s made up. The history majors trade in the currency of reality and proving fact

>>509952490 (OP)
why would you put a wall hundreds of thousands of dollars tall between high school graduates and the trained professionals your society needs in order to compete and succeed on the global stage? how does that make any sense at all? are we trying to steer America into the tar pits?

>>509953373
Correct, they have lots of cash so they lend it to people without money and increase their income through interest. Meanwhile the poor and middle class end up paying more than they would if they they didn't borrow money and often become debt slaves struggling to make minimum payments over decades.

College is cheap if you belong there. Student loans are easy to pay off if you didn't major in something stupid.

If you don't come from a wealthy family, you just shouldn't be studying art history or gender studies.

>>509952947
Yes, pls gib or I kill

>>509955452
I'd need a guaranteed payoff if I were to attempt such things.

>>509952490 (OP)
Student loan debt should be invalidated, not paid off by taxpayer money

>>509954252
Yeah why would you ever want more educated people with more money to spend on goods and services? Crazy idea.

White guys aren't going to college to be anything anyway these days so it doesn't matter. So Trump putting the kibosh on student debt and loans is just going to make it and more level playing Field for the white guys. All the Indians are coming over with their cash and now the Free Ride is over

>>509952490 (OP)
This is what I voted for.

>>509955394
Most college majors are trash. Everyone should go to trade school and learn actual skills for jobs that need doing. I’ve somehow made my double major history and media production work out by cross applying the specific skill sets into other industries. Not everyone can produce people and be leaders. I’d say really only 10% of people should go to a 4 year university because what you learn is far less important than what you make of your own life, which the folks who can’t pay their bills can’t seem to figure out. College doesn’t get you shit. It may get you a minimum wage job, which is what I did, and I starved for 5 years before becoming homeless and THEN got a job that actually meant something. Everyone wants it all right out the gate and the folks who succeed figure it out. No amount of college education will keep society’s failures from failing because the reason isn’t college, it’s their own idiocy.

>>509955852
NO! I Always wanted to get a good job that'll make me some REAL money!

>>509955452
You are a retard and a faggot, and wrong.

>>509952490 (OP)
why would anyone pay off your loans?

>>509955833
Those "educated people" aren't you though. And a lot of those degrees are pointless.

There was never going to be student loan forgiveness. It was just a democratic con to get votes from all of the liberals with useless vanity degrees and crippling student loan debt. It was always a fantasy, and only foolish liberals with their PhD in women's studies fell for it.

>>509952490 (OP)
No one forced you to take out a student loan to get a worthless degree.

Seriously, go fuck yourself.

>>509956212
My state paid for me to become a nurse and now I pay more taxes and spend more money. Seems like an overall win for society.

>>509953373
>The rich don't need to take out student loans
Yes rich parents can pay for their children's school costs. But if a young rich person takes out a loan it is easier for them to pay it back on time and build credit.

>>509952490 (OP)
You realize that tuition will skyrocket if you forgive loans right? Every school will hire 50 more diversity deans and vice provosts overnight then every taxpayer pays their salary including you. What happens if you get rid of government guaranteed student loans? It's total tuition death, schools will have to go back to 1960s tuition.

If you want to solve the entire problem look at Singapore. There is no daycare school that goes on forever you take Grade 12 in Grade 9 there then the last 2 years are trade college or you stay and complete first year university for free.

>>509954820
Fuck this supporter bullshit, we're all americans. I support the folk of america

>>509956397
>get a STEM degree
>cant get a job because everyone is hiring jeets for pennies

LMFAO

>>509956668
>I support the folk of america

lol retard. There is no American "folk." It's all just a bunch of different tribes who have nothing in common.

>>509955452
college is a scam and republicans are pieces of shit who would glady say people should honor their deal with the devil. instead of kicking out or killing said devil. usury is a pure sin and there are people have paid more than what they original owed and still owe more.

>>509952947
Strange you don't say that to schlomo when he goes bankrupt and he get bailed out.
Or when Amazon use your taxes for subsidies, or when they give it to Palantir and Oracle to create skynet.
Not a word.
Why should people's have paid the bank bailout?
No clue.
Yet here we are.

>>509956771
>now STEM degrees are worthless too

I'm not surprised.

>>509957001
They're not worthless you just gotta put in the work.

>>509957193
Fucking kill yourself already you worthless piece of shit

>>509956999
We shouldn't, cuz once a government program is ESTABLISHED, it can't be reversed.
When you start forgiving students loans, it is a gateway to forgiving other things. It creates a domino effect, so we should not do it.

>>509957193
They're not worthless in the sense they help contribute to the GDP

lmfao it's no wonder this country has become such a shithole.

>>509957193
Like the other guy said, kill yourself.

>>509956315
They actually did manage to squeeze out *some* student loan forgiveness, the full extent will never be known since the GOP pretty much stonewalled everywhere they could and prevent it from happening. All things considered, the Biden admin did fight pretty hard for it.

>>509957392
lmfao everyone and anyone can and will be bailed out EXCEPT the American citizen whose name the money was printed in in the first place.

Dumb fuck retards. Deserve everything that's coming.

>>509956999
Also, you:
>Amazon and Palantir get subsides
>This means we should subsidize everything else under the sun

What's next? Paying for your barbershop trip?
lol

>>509957312
Not worthless. I am more productive than 99.3% of all /pol/cels.

>>509957407
>they help contribute to the GDP
Normal folks dont care about that. They got bills and shit to pay.

>>509957528
Cant. Too important. Enjoy your treason charge and subsequent trip to the void for talking complete nonsense.

>>509957805
>They got bills and shit to pay.
The government doesn't give a fuck about that shit. They got money to print lol stupid faggot.

>>509952490 (OP)
>please subsidize the loan I signed my name to and now I dont even work in the field I went to school for
No. Pay your fucking bills.

>>509957991
>The government
Who? That's not their landlord or utility companies.

>>509952490 (OP)
Maybe if you got a degree that is actually useful you would not be in this situation.

>>509953362
Yea, fedhosted 4chan is markedly worse and more infiltrated than nipHosted 4chan. Half the fuckers here are just BreakroomFed clones

They aren't forgiving student loans? Cool. I haven't forgiven the government for:
>9/11, ME wars for Israel/MIC, the removal of Glass-Steagall bank regulations, QE programs and 2008 bailouts to Feddie friends, 2020, the assassinations of: JFK, MLK, Malcom X, Avicii, Chester Bennington, Anthony Bourdain, Isaac Kappy, Seth Rich, and innummerable other horrible things

>>509958056
>the government isnt their landlord
L M F A O

>>509953373
They get unlimited loans from the government through quantitative easing.

>>509952490 (OP)
No student loan forgiveness. Just a Big Beautiful Bill that allows anyone earning more than 4.3 million dollars per year to save $390,000 in tax. Because, you know, CEO's got it hard these days.

>>509953061
kys commie poorfag

>>509957728
>Only the ultra rich billionaires deserve our tax money. The middle class can fuck themselves.

>>509952490 (OP)
>mfw got my remaining 16k forgiven in spring last year through SAVE
lol
LMAO

Biden lied and made impossible promises, giving false hope to the gullible, so no, plus you know nothing about this topic: back when he was a senator Joe Biden specifically is the reason you can't discharge student loan debt with bankruptcy. Seriously, understand your own topic before presuming to start a thread.

>>509957392
I believe the students loans is a predatory market who's used to force the population into servitude with dept slavery.
It's aimed at the more vulnerable part of the society and is solely used to impoverish the population.
I believe Banks should not be able to commodify and exploit education.
I believe Banks should be held responsible for the current state of society.
It is the primary institution profiting from the current state of societies.
From taking criminal money to helping normalize prostitution as the single highest paying job.
I believe the North American institutions are crippled by corruption from top to bottom and Banks are at the very head of it.
I believe the fractional banking system forced on the North American population was used to steal their wealth.
It diluted the buying power and centralized the wealth in the hands of a very select few.
I believe the fractional banking system was used to redistribute the wealth of the North American population to the rest of the world.
I believe a country will never be free until it print its own currency, exempt of the control of an unelected and unknown entity.
I think usury is slavery.
How about that?

>>509958294
Well, unless they live in the projects.

>>509958367
Doesn't your country have it's own problems to worry about?

Student loans shouldn't be forgiven but usury needs to end on home,car and student loans.

>>509952490 (OP)
This helps the middle and lower class. They're not paying for retarded gender studies or philosophy or any other retarded degrees

You took out the loan. You pay it back. It's literally that simple.

>>509952490 (OP)
Biden didn't forgive loans either. Every "plan" he had he punted to election time knowing he could use it to get votes without doing anything. How are you this retarded?

>>509958673
Shills aren't paid to think.

I think that they should be forgiven BUT colleges must be held liable. I want every university bankrupt and their presidents sucking dick for pocket change.

>>509958729
I am not against them being forgiven BUT changes must be made where this can never happen again because you just set a precedent that people shouldn't pay for college anymore and just wait for the debt to go away.

>>509958673
>he could use it to get votes without doing anything
Like the time biden promised to build the wall... oh wait

>>509952490 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckom3gf57Yw

>>509958673
>knowing he could use it to get votes without doing anything
Kinda like Trump promising to release the Epstein list.

>>509955108
pay back your debt goys

>>509958883
>n..n..no u
I wasn't absolving Trump or saying he doesn't do it just the part in the OP pretending Biden didn't fuck up too you NEET kike

>>509952490 (OP)

If you take out a loan, it's on you to do your research before agreeing to the loan. Looking to have others pay off your loan is nigger-tiered behavior. Are you a fucking nigger?

>>509958957
see
>>509959047
Amazing how near identical posts were made within seconds of each other with different IPs. Makes you think

>>509958871
Of course. That's why I don't want forgiveness to come from the government but instead from the colleges themselves. The whole system is a fucking scam.

>>509958729
no current loans should not be forgiven. new loans should just have a cap

>>509959097
Almost like it's pretty fucking obvious and more than one person realized it

>>509952490 (OP)
We cant have that speedrunning. We need 500ducks per catmeme.
The big beatiful bolt ons.

>>509959150
Almost like you retarded NEETs spending your entire day whining and no u'ing to Trump because that's all you low IQ NEETs can reply with. "But whatabout"

it was always fucking obvious, it's just a grift for obedient voteslaves
repeal the bill that guarantees government backing for all student loans in exchange for making those loans undischargeable in bankruptcy

>>509952490 (OP)
Nah Biden was worst.
Before Biden I could afford to shitpost.
Now I just have blunt statements because it's more efficient and I can't afford with Bidenflation to waste energy on excess posting.

>>509952490 (OP)
>student loan forgiveness?
>best I can do is total amnesty for everyone on the Epstein list that doesn't exist

>>509952490 (OP)
failed college students are the least deserving of debt forgiveness. if you went to college and still can't figure out that all you have to do is NOT PAY you are a hopeless retard. as soon as the government bails you out you will just get scammed by someone else. fuck on you commie cry babies.

>>509959258
i voted to have your wages garnished

>>509958174
based

>>509952490 (OP)
>tax cuts that are larger if you're poor are bad if you're poor
RETARD ALERT

Christcucks and their jewish finance masters will never be forgiven for indebting the nation like this.

If they don't do Student Loan Forgiveness.. they will burn for it. No one has any money to keep the economy propped up when they're paying debt to the government. The debt is to the government, that's why the government won't forgive it... Everyone false promised entire generations some upward mobility if they went into debt for education and then rugged pulled on them, refusing to pay the extra income they said they'd reward.

It raped the social contract into the ground.

The solution is culling every single government official and their families at this point.

>>509959227
Almost like Trump reneged (more like re-nigged) on a major campaign promise two days ago.
Biden hasn't been president for 6 months now.

>>509952947
Fpbp

>>509952947
This nigger honestly believes that the government collects taxes and THEN uses the money for student loans, and doesn't realize the money is created out of thin air for the loan. Hell he probably thinks that when any type of bankruptcy is filed, that others must repay the debt. And not, for example, that the debt is just cleared.

>>509959052
>, it's on you to do your research before agreeing to the loan.
My research said my degree would earn me 100k a year in a few years after graduating. That didn't happen because niggers like you can't keep you faggot-ass false promises.

It's not my fault you were too stupid to go to college I don't feel bad when my loan gets forgiven you're seething because you didn't get something too.

>>509959052
High school guidance counselors get bonuses for how many kids they send to college. They lie to 17 year old to get them to sign up for predatory loans. At least with my generation our boomer parents were totally brainwashed about college and didn't understand how fake and gay it was. Would be interesting to see if millennials send their kids to college, but that generation is brown so it's not a good comparison

>>509959330
I got a good education and a job but you have to understand we are indoctrinated to get into college like starting at 15 how its the end of the world if you don't and you are a failure if you don't and the entire public school system has advisors guilting you into doing it so this is one of the few issues I sympathize with the left for even though I paid my debt off long ago. The colleges are the issue here they are extremely predatory and offer garbage majors like art history and black and puerto rican studies (my ex majored in that) that do nothing for you other than being a teacher and tricking other students into doing the same

>>509952947
Debt forgiveness isn't somebody else paying off your debt. It's literally just erasing the place in the ledger that has a negative value in it.
> But the lender will lose money if they do that
That's what happens when you make a bad investment. Investing in being able to ping 29 year old middle managers once a month for the next 20 years of their lives by shackling them to a predatory interest rate when they have absolutely no means to guarantee repayment of your investment is so utterly bat-shit retarded and evil that it astonishes me that anyone who isn't a banker can't see through the scheme.
How is it only fringe economy autists who see it for what it is?

Almost all of our economic problems would be solved over night if we implemented wide-ranging and regularly occurring debt forgiveness plans. If you can't hold a person liable for any debt for more than, say 5 years it will radically change the way debt is weaponized against the poor, working and lower middle class who make up the vast majority of the population.

No matter how cucked Zion Don is I still hate leftyshits 1000% more
That's how bad you guys fucked up

>>509959440
>n..n...no u
This is how you know you are dealing with a brown 3rd worlder. When every reply is this. It's just another version of "we dindu nuffin"

>>509959532
>>509959545
pay back your loans good goy

>>509952490 (OP)
It's been a rough six months, but I think we're going to be OK ;)

>>509952490 (OP)
Couldn't students just film a some of the pedophiles raping children and then blackmail them into forgiving the loans? Don't they teach civics anymore?

>>509952490 (OP)
>Is it safe to say this admin is worse than Biden when it comes to fucking over the poor and middle class?

Yes
/thread

>>509959583
>if you're not an homosexual crab in a bucket you're leftist
left/right peoples are braindead
functionality dead up there

>>509958174
>Avicii
why would they kill him?

>>509952490 (OP)
they're all bad
voting is useless
rebellion when?

>>509959574
>The colleges are the issue here
obviously, which is why we cannot continue subsidizing them by bailing out the retards who they conned.

the only acceptable solution is to make student debt dischargeable in bankruptcy like all other debt. but of course, since that is the real solution, no one talks about it.

>>509959743
he was making a documentary with Bourdin on pedophila in hollywood and the music industry

>>509952490 (OP)
Student loan forgiveness would be an injustice to all people who paid back their loans.
This must not happen. A loan is a loan and not a gift and everybody taking it knows this.

>>509959428
nobody cares what pedophile muslims think

>>509959864
I think we can bail them out but demand colleges make changes specifically what they allow classless for what what classes you can use towards financial aid and loans. There is too much boomer nepotism in colleges keeping garbage majors alive that need to end

>>509959835
Brother, you have my ax

>>509952490 (OP)
>Personal tax cuts permanent
>Tariffs protecting my job
>Tariffs bringing more jobs back
>Influx of cheap scab labor stopped and backlog being deported
>My labor is more valuable

Everything happening is good for the working class.
You should have went into community college and not straight into a dorm at your state university.

Your cheap scab labor is going away and labor costs are going to go up.

>>509959532
Exactly. Money is not even real. That's the point. If it's "forgiven" not one has less money, the government just loses an income stream. *THATS* what they are protecting. The idea of "paying off someone else's thing" is kike-propaganda designed to flair emotions and pretend someone else is getting something and the target, the mark, is not... so don't let that other person have something...

It's absolutely fucking idiotic and pathetic that anyone is against student loan forgiveness. The reasons they oppose it are completely made up lies and just emotional pandering.

>>509959712
>Canadian
do better

>>509959974
Where in my post is "pedophile muslims" mentioned?

Go to school and learn how to read, faggot.

>>509960628
low blow dude

>>509958648
>. They're not paying for retarded gender studies or philosophy or any other retarded degrees
You're too fucking retarded you bought into the absolute retard-pandering lie that colleges only offer communist gender study classes.

If you weren't a lying fat ass retard who played WoW instead of studying, you'd know this.

>Most student debt is from scamster for-profit colleges that lied to the poor and suckered them in to funnel the government loans and grants

>For-profit colleges donated to the right to keep defrauding students.

>>509960642
sure thing pedophile muslim

>>509959948
>Student loan forgiveness would be an injustice to all people who paid back their loans.
No it wouldn't.
This is
>Putting out my neighbors house on fire would be an injustice to my house since it didn't catch on fire.

"Other people" who "paid back" their loans got lucky with jobs -- which are limited. If they wanted "other people" to "pay back" the loans -- they could have offered more jobs instead of being stingy and making sure only a handful of graduates get employed.

Life's "unfair" remember? It's not fair they got jobs. I don't want to hear their whining.

>>509960909
Learn to read, christcuck.

>>509952490 (OP)
>Is it safe to say this admin is worse than Biden when it comes to fucking over the poor and middle class?
Lol. No. Don't take the loan if you can't pay it back you stupid, lazy nigger.

>>509961081
Don't offer loans for job training if you can't offer jobs, stupid nigger.

>>509960099
>bail them out
yes, my making debt dischargeable in bankruptcy, which will cut off the spigot of free money being pumped into universities, and help people who are actually in need, instead of giving free money to rich people in debt. rich people borrow shitloads of money because they get it basically interest free. rich people have more debt than anyone else. forgiving debt across the board is the worst possible solution. which, once again, is why all the fake left politicians push it. it is all a scam. they offer a false solution that could never happen and then debate the false solution, to distract from the fact that there is a very simple easy solution right in front of us. politics 101. also, proving that university didn't teach you shit.

I keep my trump tax cuts and now I can deduct tax off the overtime I work so it's a win for me bro. Trump tax cuts have me saving thousands of dollars every year.

Nothing else matters. Who cares about other people? I'm too busy baitin'.

>>509960945
pedophile muslim says what?

Christcuck child raping faggot can't reply without a you directed at him because he's on his phone and too stupid to use the PC.

lol this pedophile muslim is big mad

>>509961235
>paying to learn to do a job
lmao. if a company really needs employees they will pay for your training. its all a scam and if you dont get that there is no hope for you.

>>509960914
>"Other people" who "paid back" their loans got lucky with jobs -- which are limited.

Maybe spending $120,000 on a literature degree specializing in 13th century French poetry was NOT a great employment draw... perhaps?

>>509954252
We shouldn't be making money on educating youths. If the loans were private, that's one thing. But more than half of my student loans were federal and the interest rate I got from the government back in 2006 were way too high. I paid it all off, and everyone else should too, but the government shouldn't be making money off of it.

>>509961235
Lol. Say more stupid shit, Kenneth.

>>509961558
Maybe pull yourselves up by your bootstraps and hire that person if you want him to pay your jewish buddies back so much.

Why do you support usury for kikes so much? Because you're a kike?

>>509960914
That would make sense if the government simply erased the debt, but what's going to happen is other middle class and poor people are going to be paying off that debt through taxes

>>509952490 (OP)
I don't have student debt because I paid mine off, why should parasites be subsidized?

>>509961494
> if a company really needs employees they will pay for your training.
Tell that to those companies then, before you have a degree they tell you need a degree to work there, after you get a degree, they move the goal post and say you need.... uhh... something else... to work there..

>ts all a scam and if you dont get that there is no hope for you.
Oh there is hope for me. I'm running for office and putting the bill to forgive the loans out myself.

There is always hope for actual justice and the destruction of liars.

>>509961659
LMAO, go play WoW in mommy's basement, Juan. You were too stupid to go college and you're still butthurt over it.

>>509961765
When are you going to hire people so they can pay off theirs too?

>>509961765
Because it end up being worth it for societies in the long therm.
The person with a good education will maybe participate to actually increasing your own quality of life instead of turning into a gang banging wigger or onlyfan whore.
Because you don't really actually want to live in a population with a 60IQ average.
Because...
Oh wait

>>509961765
>>509961558
Answer the question, you lying kikes.. are hiring anyone so they can pay things off?
How come you have no power to hire people, but do have the power to bitch at them for having less than you?

>>509961558
I am not explicitly in favor of blanket forgiveness, but it's disingenuous to keep using that dumb fucking strawman of 'Oy vey, you must have got a worthless degree'.
Consider the fact that less than 5 years ago, a computer science degree was a gold printing machine, and everyone would have claimed it was a fantastic investment of time, and money. Only for the oligarchs to import endless streams of jeets, and then rug pull the entire IT labor market. Or are college students supposed to be omniscient, and able to predict labor trends/new technological innovations decades in advance?

This entire conversation wouldn't even be happening, had boomers not made student loan a magical form of debt, that can't be bankrupted out of. Then it wouldn't be a question of what type of degree they had, and there would be the same tool that everyone can use when their finances gets fucked up due to bad investments.

>Be boomer that took out a million dollar PPP loan
>Get it all fucking forgiven, because reasons.

>Be millenial/Gen Z with less than 100k student loan debt.
>OY VEY, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. JUST PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS

>>509961765
based responsible anon
>>509961918
pathetic society leech begging for handouts

>>509959545

I made no promises to you. Pay it back. Pretty obvious that you're nigger mindset got you into this situation. Go be a retard somewhere else.

>TFW could pay off student debt easily
>TFW i never will because usurious kikes should have to come litigate against me if they want even a cent of my labor.
Every cent goes to israel niggers or faggots anyways. I went to school because jewish bankers decided to gatekeep pussy behind institutional learning.
I got pussy and I got a useless degree and guess what? Working for some hook nosed kike who demands my daily time is just as usurious as the debt. I said fuck that started my own business and now I rake it in.
I dont care if you have a loan or not selling your time and sweat to some faggot boomer or kike is weak.


By the time theyve forced the system into collection mode itll be time for another clown to take over.

>>509961918
When I have a company that requires employees. Explain why (You) think the college kids aren't getting jobs

>>509962274
>jobs are hand-outs
You need college, faggot, you can't use words correctly at all.

>>509962333
>taking it personally because he's too stupid and dishonest you understand the argument
Go to college anon. Hit those books, retard.

>>509962497
keep begging for handouts you pathetic leech
you still live in your mommy's basement. youre the scum of society

>>509962263
>This entire conversation wouldn't even be happening, had boomers not made student loan a magical form of debt
So are you just going to cry about it as justification for not figuring out how people should instead find a career or tell people which jobs they should be aiming for that don't require you to put yourself in debt, which would in turn fix the issue of college being an expensive money pit?

>>509962424
> Explain why (You) think the college kids aren't getting jobs
Because companies want to keep labor costs down and won't pay anyone, anything extra, but the college students are told, by the government in highschool that employers would reward them with extra money and jobs and opportunities for their degree.

You're defending liars and bullshitters because you have a personal grudge against the victims.

>>509962560
>a job is a hand-out
Okay, boomer troll. Keep baiting.

>>509952490 (OP)
Majority of Americans are against student loan forgiveness since the majority of Americans don’t have student loans

>>509962697
You're asking for free college bailouts, not a job
You're the dumbest mother fucker here

>>509952490 (OP)
>This new bill is a straight up attack on everyone that doesnt make seven figures a year
uh, are you aware that you kinda hired a fucktillionaire as president?
conservatives usually want to... conserve... the status quo.

>>509952490 (OP)
Biden was never going to forgive student loans either. Trumps just being honest. The student loan debt was repackaged and sold and now it's tied up in peoples pensions. So the government literally cannot forgive the debt without collapsing millions pensions. They would put our generations in camps like skynet and turn us into mulch before they would ever threaten boomers pensions. This has been known for years.

>>509952490 (OP)
When the republicans lose by a LANDSLIDE in 4 years maybe mommy AOC will do some debt forgiveness.

>>509952490 (OP)
Ultimately, this is a good thing. When the reality that some man or Daddy government isn't going to come along and magically disappear all of their credit card and student loan debt parents will start DRILLING IT into their childrens' heads that girls are not allowed to go to school, have credit cards, or move out until they find a husband and we'll see a rampant trend of enforcing virginity and shaming women for slutty behavior. This will have disasterous consequences for the jews and their agenda as the pendulum swings strongly back to the right and traditional culture and will not only undue decades of their progress, but with modern technology's ability to document first hand evidence and turn these warnings into undeniable proof instead of something that can be explained away as a "silly, bigoted fairy tale" they will have a very hard time moving things back to where they want them. Millennia women realizing their the lost generation will be the catalyst that leads to their inevitable downfall.

That said, I'd support outlawing usury and writing off all interest debt

>>509962730
>You're asking for free college bailouts, not a job

Dumb motherfucker.
Absolute illiterate dumb motherfucker...
HAHAHAHAHHAAH

You don't know what the word "HIRE" means?
HAHAHAHAHAH

THIS
DUMB
ILLITERATE
FAGGOT
NIGGER
DOESNT
KNOW
WHAT
THE
WORD
"HIRE"
MEANS

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Goddamn, nigger, read a book.

>>509961674
>Maybe pull yourselves up by your bootstraps and hire that person

Why, you have ZERO advanced skills that anyone wants... you offer no more than a kid with an 8th grade education.

>>509962965
>impossible things that will never happen .jpeg

>>509962647
>Because companies want to keep labor costs down and won't pay anyone
So no one is getting hired? Job listings say otherwise
>the college students are told, by the government in highschool that employers would reward them with extra money and jobs and opportunities for their degree
and now that they know that isn't true they should be looking elsewhere

>>509956397
This,
I’m just so glad we get to pay off all those hundreds of billions in PPP loans the elite took out instead of pulling themselves up by their bootstraps.

Additionally I am getting an erection for paying for all the future tradeschool grants so we can get jeet plumbers and electricians that will work for 18$ an hour.

Matthew 24
The parable of the evil servant.

Yes lets forgive the evil servant his debts and then go strangle and garnish wages of the other servants who owed far less than he did.

I remember my conservative Christian bros saying the SAVE plan means they totally arent the evil servants who got their debts forgiven. The nobody was right about everything.
:)

>>509963003
>seething this hard
lmfao and now we know why you're just another incel neet begging for handouts

>>509963011
Define "skills" boomer. What "skills" were you looking for? Someone with a degree in the arts did something with their lives -- why you rotted on 4chan complaining about Stacy not fucking you.

Define "skills" faggot and I 100% bet you won't.
You'll just bait and insult more. I support loan forgiveness because it makes you dumbfucks who can't read, seethe this much.

Yiddish-to-English translation:
>"We are never going to educate the indigenous goy population that we have spent decades disenfranchising and dumbing-down, and are now replacing with the high-paying Third World "students" we enriched at the former's expense, in the explicit order to invade and conquer gentile lands -- all without firing a single bullet from any of those much sperg "400 million guns hiding behind each blade of grass" meme.
The Art of War, by Sun Jew

>>509952947
They're already paid for.
Why should the government profit with interest?

>>509963292
for one, "skill" isnt sitting on 4chan all day being mad about not given free bailouts

lol you stupid nigger. keep complaining, this shit is great

>>509963290
>He still can't figure out what "hire" means
BWHAHWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>509962497

Don't be a nigger. Pay back the loan. I can get another degree if I want to but you will never escape being a parasite.

>>509963426
pedophile muslim wants free handouts, a tale as old as time

>>509952490 (OP)
No way should the US pay off student loan debt. The money they would have to use would then not be going to Israel, the land of God's Chosen people and as a Judeo-Christian nation, that is unacceptable.

>>509963385
Nice reverse uno there, faggot. See, I said you sat around on 4chan all day instead of going to college...

You reply is to say
>NUH UH YOU [reverse the insult you just got]
Like always, you lying, illiterate faggots have no actual coherent, logical argument. You're just trolling, baiting and lying.

>>509963292
>Define "skills" boomer. What "skills" were you looking for?

You need to be able to suck start a Harley for the ORAL exam part of the hiring process at this here Pizza parlor.
Looking for Eager employees

>>509952490 (OP)
Student loans are just an IQ test. You failed the test. Rewarding low IQ people is called dysgenics and it leads to degradation of the human species.

>>509963534
you sit on 4chan every single day and you wonder why you cant get a job

holy fuck you just dont get it. inbred muslims really are this stupid

>>509953362
Sorry anon but he's calling you stupid. Because you are stupid.

>>509963502
Hire people, faggot. Pull yourselves up by your bootstrapes and go get a loan from Shelkberh Capital and hire people if you want them paying jews so much.

>>509963003
These boomers, whether in mind or body, literally don't understand anything you are saying because they have zero self-awareness or world understanding, because they are just told things like "greatest ally" or "the people destroying the country are 30-year-old gamers". I have zero debt for a degree in an industry that employes millions and these faggots will still call me a leach because I don't want to work at Mcdonald's. They use words like "incel" because they heard it from someone else, they have no thoughts in their head. I could be cumming inside a woman, and much like their roastie counterparts, they will still call me an incel. They are literally nigger -tier with how their brains work.

>>509963290
You're a nigger. TND.

>>509963604
>you sit on 4chan every single day
You're salty because I said you did, you're easy to figure out and too stupid to not fall for the bait and too dishonest to think we're falling for yours and not just mocking you.

>>509963680
pedophile muslim says what?

>>509963714
Post hand, nigger.

>>509952490 (OP)
>>509953362
2 POST BY THIS ID HIT AND RUN KIKE SHILL SLIDE THREAD

>>509955394
"Miga" doesn't have to make sense.

>>509952947
they promised us that high paying jobs awaited post graduation not lifetime debt slavery to kike bankers. turns out the only high paying jobs were for jewish school adminstrators, professors and other personel

>>509955394
>>509963832
college professors are not offering professional training

>>509952947
>Spend entire life paying taxes
>HOW DARE YOU WANT ANY TAXES GOY

>>509952947
fpbp everytime

>>509952490 (OP)
rescind your degree and call is even

>>509963639
>Hire people
Apply for a job

>>509952490 (OP)
>s it safe to say this admin is worse than Biden when it comes to fucking over the poor and middle class?
>poor
depends

>middle class
definitely not.
The absolute best thing for the middle class is deporting illegals. The effects are so far-reaching most people probably don't even realize how bad immigrants are fucking shit up.

Consider car insurance.
Every middle-class person just pays a premium, monthly or annually. It's just money that gets sucked away.
Every insurance policy has a required coverage for "uninsured motorists." It's a huge chunk of the premium. It's illegals. They don't have insurance and get into accidents at WAY higher rates than citizens.

Boot the illegals and suddenly that's one big chunk of your paycheck that's not being drained into a corporate bank account to pay for illegals who aren't contributing anything.

Now do that for insurance premiums.
Taxes to pay for police and public schools.
Rent and housing costs.

All the baseline burdens on the middle are driven up by the neo-slave class of illegal immigrants.

>>509963711
idk what youre saying, im just replying with generic shit
anyways im happy youre drowning in debt. you took out the the loan and you realized youre too stupid to pay it back. this country is flooded with retard inbreds like you

>>509963680
Right, thanks for getting the point here. It's easy to dog-walk them into looking stupid because they're hurling insults for the sake of it without even registering what they mean.

I trap anti-student boomers with this all the time. They want to say "PAY IT BACK" I ask if they're hiring... they say jobs are hand-outs. It's hilariously retarded. Like a robot that is just repeating words it reads and can't figure out what they mean.

>>509964120
>60IQ called someone inbred
long live the king

>>509964275
no anon, i was smart enough to pay back my loan
youre confusing me with this retarded inbred who is begging for free money

>>509964195
Why would you ask people on an image forum if they're hiring? Go look at job listings instead.

>>509952490 (OP)
I used to be a never forgiver, but watching trillions go to foreigners and foreign nations, debt relief and forgiveness for PPP loans of senators and congress, I realized how naive I was. Fuck these “bankers”

>>509964195
Boomer golems have been lying to themselves for so long that any acknowledgement of reality's true state offends them. To protect their childlike ego they simply deny and retreat to their comfortable fiction.

>>509964023
Look at the stack of applications sitting on your desk instead of texting Chad.

>>509964362
your fiat isn worth shit low IQ go celebrate your slavery to scholomo somewhere else crab

>>509964038
Here you go with your dumbfuck examples, go the fuck back, retard

>>509964120
>idk what youre saying, im just replying with generic shit
That's what I was saying, so thanks for telling me I was right about you being a dishonest retard.

>>509959948
Yeah except those PPP loans for the rich during covid. Those were all loans but since the rich got them we can just forget about them and write them off

>>509964567
see >>509964365

>>509964388
Anon, it's your fault for playing a rigged game where they lied about the rules and used cheat codes.

Next time try being born sooner and swearing fealty to Baal, maybe ask him for some bootstraps
>bitch

>>509964365
Why would you tell people on an image forum to get a job if you weren't hiring?

You're not getting the fucking point here that we know you're bullshiting and trolling and you're being bullshitted and trolled right back.

Trolls are too retarded to tell they're being trolled.
Always been this way. You're butthurt over anonymous insults being hurled after you opened up with anonymous insults.

You're using "PAY IT BACK" as an insult-bait. That's the point here.

>>509963290
>every single post this guy has made
It's tiresome when school is out for summer

>>509964038
Mandatory car insurance should be illegal by the way.

>>509965171
>Why would you tell people on an image forum to get a job if you weren't hiring?
Because they're crying about college being a scam and asking ANONS ON AN IMAGEBOARD to hire them instead of looking at job listings

>>509963110
jew mad

>>509963209
Student loan forgiveness won't be able to happen unless the jews are expelled. I honestly don't know why people are still going to college when it's been an open scam for decades.

This thread in a nutshell

>>509965427
You're not being asked SERIOUSLY. You get that? Why do I have explain irony and implications to you?

Do you understand what "being facetious" means?

>?Because they're crying about college being a scam
No, you and other baiters are screaming "PAY IT BACK YOU LEECH" and getting asked "ARE YOU HIRING" and then DEEERRRPRPPPing the absolute fuck out and not getting the joke.

>>509963866
I know you were a dumb kid but you really should've looked into what jobs paid. I almost went to school for biochemical engineering until I looked up how much it cost, how much I'd make, then did the math of how long I would be in debt and I was 17 when I did that.

>>509965171
Why did you go to school for a job that wasn't hiring?

The entire point of these predatory student loans that can't be defaulted on is to keep you enslaved.

If you owe a debt this big you can't flee the country or renounce citizenship.
The IRS can confiscate your passport with no due process if they even suspect you might use it to flee your debts.
As a US citizen you can't open any bank accounts in any foreign bank without them informing the IRS.
They will find you. You WILL be extradited and brought back if you try to flee.

The entire point of them was that you're tied to the US forever.
That debt will keep compounding until you owe millions for a bad decision you took under duress when you were 18.

Honestly, it's genius. I am in awe of how cruel and ruthless these Boomers and Jews are.

>>509965955
And the only way out is killing the jews.

>>509965953
Try baiting harder, this is weak bait.

>>509952490 (OP)
yes /thread kek
unironically any remaining supporters are either butt fuck retarded or outright morally corrupted

>>509965955
Exactly which is why Student Loan Forgiveness is very important and why it's been well poisoning. The Democrats are just controlled opposition. The Deep State lets them fail. They give them good ideas to well poison so the idea of not being a debt slave is associated with "the libs" instead of realizing it's a non-partisan issue.

>>509965836
>You're not being asked SERIOUSLY
I know, the point is to call out your shitposting so thanks for admitting to it
>you are screaming "PAY IT BACK YOU LEECH"
show me where I said that

>>509952490 (OP)
All they really have to do is put a cap on the interest. I will never agree with paying off someone else's debt but I have no problem with a bank being told to fuck off. You can apply it retroactively, but the bank will have to eat the loss, not the tax payer. It's their fault anyway for approving useless degrees.

>>509952947
They shouldn’t. Student loan forgiveness should mean literally no one pays for it, and the loaners eat the cost right to the face.

>>509952490 (OP)
People need to learn that trump is purely transactional when it comes to his policies. If someone offers him millions to never offer student loan relief, then thats what hes going to do. Follow the money. He didn't need a conscience for the lower and middle classes to get elected, he just had to larp like he did.

>>509966303
>show me where I said that
I said "you and the other baiters"... you dropped the context of you guys being lumped together.

>>509953373
this.
my dad paid for my $200,000 tuition like it was a McD value meal and flunked out anyway.

Why does Trump appoint the most unqualified goons possible?

>>509954183
You might have done that anyway.

>>509953061
The rich aren't eligible for student loans. Trump can sell this shit to you retards because none of you know anything.

>>509953708
Funny part is that half the men are probably in student loan debt thanks to female gender quotas, so they aren’t able to pay off their debts fast enough. Women also stay in debt longer because they have to pay for stupid shit they do t need

>>509952490 (OP)
>gives ice a trillion dollars
>heils israel and says bibi satanyahu is the greatest human living
>pretends epstein killed himself

lmao, this will be crazy to watch. they say a politician will sell you the rope he'll hang from.

>>509966941
To emphasize the point that you're trying to lump me in with a group for no reason. Again, show me where I said or even implied it.

>>509954574
a welder is still a blue collar white trash job. Good luck finding a wife who is not fat and some religious prude whale.

>>509954574
>am a welder making shitloads of cash
You know we can look up how much tradecucks make on bls.gov, right?

>>509956771
That was like the Canadian government 10 years ago. Massive engineering layoffs and they were still prioritizing engineers as immigrants based on their skilled worker program. These “people” simply view us as cattle

>>509955394
Used to be that quite a few engineers started as technicians in industry and took night classes. Their work experience and schooling complemented each other, and with years of effort they got the degree and could get a much higher salary, usually by moving to a new employer.

Or if you're strong, just take the loans and pay them back. And if you take the loans for a worthless degree, that's a you problem not an us problem.

>>509952490 (OP)

>>509955452
Somewhat true. You can go to State U on a good scholarship, if you're the caliber to have gotten into Ivy League. There are merit scholarships, not based on parent income, for probably the top 10% of students. And that's probably most of who belong in college.

>send jobs out of the country
>force your own citizens to attend college
>triple the cost halfway through, fill with foreigners
>loans for Donnie and hundreds of billions to Israel

Oh Say Can You See...

>>509955833
Sure that's fine. But not so much that I want to pay for them to receive goods and services.

>>509956315
Quite a few law school grads regret going because their law school debt is so high, and they didn't get jobs in Biglaw.

>>509965852
no one cares what you think retard

>>509956561
Whenever I got solicitations for donations to my colleges (I have several degrees including a PhD that paid me to attend) and I saw what they planned to spend the money on, the black and Palestinian students I would help bring to campus, I threw it in the trash. I didn't want those things to happen. More spending made universities worse. Starve them, and they'll revert more to what they should be.

>>509963639

Pay back your loan. It's not like you can't start your own business. Go be a leech elsewhere.

>>509952490 (OP)
poor people aren't going to college, you fucking retarded subhuman filth. Pay your fucking loans or spend your life destitute, those should be your only options. Dumb fucking zoomer trash.

>>509967457
It's morning again in America.

Reagan sent our manufacturing to Japan, never to return. And let our major corps be hollowed out by LBO's (Leveraged Buyouts) so that every quarter's returns were crucial and R&D was never the same again.

A few years out of college my company was acquired by LBO, then resold back as a private company. It was a real thing.

>>509966953
It's a cycle where these people basically kiss his ass, hoping for a hand-out and he gives it to them simply because he likes submissive people who go along with everything he says.

>>509967772
>. It's not like you can't start your own business.
With what capital, faggot? I can't start my own business because I don't have capital or money to do so. I can't get another loan from anyone anymore because I couldn't pay back the student loan when no one was hiring me and paying me enough to do so.... I went to college because I was told that's how I get those things, because someone would finally hire me and pay me more when I have that degree.

You're a fucking joke.

>>509953708
>highest average student loan debt is $11,000
I thought it would be much higher based on how much whining these people do. Why does this need to be forgiven? That is not a crippling amount of debt. Get a job.

>>509964700
I don’t have any debt, stupid ass

>>509966093
It's not even bait. I could see if you were a 50 year old elder millennial, but before we were even teenagers they started reporting on the news that college graduates couldn't good jobs and were screwed with lifelong debt. That's a jig reason why I didn't go to college. I don't understand why everyone not only knew this, but went anyways and then after it REALLY blew up and we started having all this talk about student loan forgiveness because it was impossible to pay off somehow Zoomers are STILL going to college.

>>509967265
They're adding together four different jobs to artificially deflate the average.

>>509952490 (OP)
I'm lower middle class and paid for college myself. Forgiving loans for millions would be yet another cash influx that would make housing yet less affordable and drive inflation. Forgiving student loans would be a significant middle finger to all those who borrowed responsibly, got a degree that makes sense, and repaid their loans. Pay your fucking loan off anon, you fucking lazy retarded fag.

>>509968297
I was being facetious fucktard

>>509952490 (OP)
why not bill the universities?

>>509968307
Years from 6th-12th grade we literally had classes for college preparation, how important it was, they even did a ton of personality tests that give you ideas on what best college degree would suit you. It was heavily pushed and nobody ever mentioned it was a failing institution, you obviously were not born in America

>>509968307
I graduated in 2005 and was told college was my ticket out of my parent's poverty and they couldn't pay for it so I had to go into debt to do so...

Then in 2010 suddenly, when I graduated, I was told "oops, we aren't hiring!" because it was a recession. No one called college a scam before the economy tanked and the money wasn't flowing to new graduates like it used too.

>>509964547
>To protect their childlike ego they simply deny and retreat to their comfortable fiction.
My 20 years of posting on 4chan taught me that everyone is essentially like this dude. Everyone is lying and bullshitting and they're emotionally attached to their lies. It's their ego attacking whatever it can get away with attacking and trying to inflate itself to look/feel better.

>>509968480
He’s clearly on a h1b or something
>>509968425
Yea I see now, I’m just angry today

>>509968388
>It's totally ok to fund BS wars to the tune of trillions, bail out bad Wall St actors to the tune of 11+ trillion, and give blanket forgiveness of PPP loans that had record fraud around 1.6 trillion while printing the USD for banks to buy up res housing....but FUCK YOU if you got a degree for a world boomers soft killed since 2008

I agree, anyone who wants student loan forgiveness is a bad goy

>>509953362
>I took african dance history because a girl was cute but now I work at starbucks
Tough shit faggot

>>509968480
What kind of degree did you get?

>>509952490 (OP)
That statement is the biggest indicator this country is not America any longer. That's a strictly stingy jewish mentality. Unmistakably. It lacks a fundamental dignity that is typical of asiatics.

>>509968682
>I made up a strawman because Sorority Stacy didn't fuck me and I'm projecting my anger on all college graduates over it.
Tough shit retard. Go to college.

>>509968307
News is fake. What every country needs is a government website showing employment statistics for every major and industry, so that kids can make the right decision. The US has such a website. So does Germany. Canada doesn’t.

>>509952490 (OP)
I'd have ZERO fucking sympathy for these idiots who took out loans they couldn't payback.
However there is a glaring caveat. The elitist class ALWAYS get bailed out, not only that, but they purposely speculate leveraged positions sometimes knowing that they'll get bailed out. This has caused much more damage, debt, then Student loans have. It's not even close. And remember, these people get bailed out by Tax Payers and by the Federal Reserve.

>>509952490 (OP)
make the universities pay them back.

>>509968670
It’s a school shooters mentality. Instead of going after the elites he goes for his peers. It’s wild.

>>509953373
No, they loan them.
So forgiving student loan debt is just taxpayers paying those bankers.

Also like 70% of student debt is dumb hoes with English degrees.
Let them suck dick for cash.
Or better yet, give them 40k off their student loans for each kid.

>>509969212
>So forgiving student loan debt is just taxpayers paying those bankers.
No it's not. Money is not real. If money isn't physically being removed from your bank account, you're not "paying for" anything.

>Also like 70% of student debt is dumb hoes with English degrees.
Also no it's not. These are just strawmen you guys cook up revealing you're just pissed about women and see Student Loan Forgiveness as something women benefit from, so you're willing to screw over men to try and stick it to these women.

>>509969138
>make the universities pay them back.
Just make the lenders whole. It's all fugazi anyways.
The reason why Stonks, Crypto are mooning right now is simply because global M2 is rising again, why? because the whole world is getting bailed out (with more debt).

>>509968456
>>509968480
I clearly remember being a kid and watching the news with my grandma when I was around like 12-14 and hearing stories about graduates not getting jobs. It helps that I didn't graduate until after the recession had started, as well.

I do remember literally EVERYONE going out of their way to tell me I had to go to college or my life would be fucked. I remember the pressure, but at the same time I and a lot of others just didn't go because the price didn't make sense. I guess it's kind of like the original vax problem. A bunch of people got pressured into getting vaxxed even though it was bogus and a bunch of people got pressured into student debt even though it was bogus.

>>509952490 (OP)
Jamie borrow money from you
she promises that she will repay you
she spent the money , it's gone
it wasn't a small amount
you literally had to mortgage your house
and the bank is threatening to take your home

there's no undoing your mistake you can't go back in time ans say no.
you trusted her when you really shouldn't have, you thought she was honest
now, you are struggling, late on your payment
your children see that you are stressed
you try yo reassure them that everything will be fine, but the bank already sent someone to appraise your house, they want to throw you and your children out on the street, because you aren't paying them.
You've been more than patient with Jamie
but now she's getting an attitude like "fuck you, i'm not paying it back"
to make your mortgage payments, you alread wiped out your children's college fund that you had been making payments into since before they were born, and now they won't be able to go to college. You're working two jobs trying to catch up your mortgage, but the bank keep charging extra fees and a collections agency keeps calling, as is they know exactly when you just laid down to try and get some sleep between your jobs.

Jamie isn't getting a job to pay you back, she's out partying

>>509952947
meanwhile, jews

>>509969380
get a job, moran

>>509956397
No one forced you to make an unsecured loan to a jobless teen

>>509952490 (OP)

>>509962560
>keep begging for handouts you pathetic leech

you'll never in a trillion years say this to schlomo

lots of kikes and usury apologists in this thread.

>>509952490 (OP)
stupid fucking goyim.

>>509962560
you pay for kikes to go to college you stupid fucking nigger.

>>509963170
This nigger thinks that job listing=jobs.

Anyone that tries to argue that the jobs economy is actually good because le macro stats is either utterly retarded or completely disingenuous.

Does not account for:
>Type of employment/field of employment
>Under or over employment
>How difficult it is to acquire job
>Ghost jobs
>How much competition there is for any given job
>Wage/cost of living ratio

I've seen this dumbassed boomer argument so many times that I've been convinced its propaganda

>>509952490 (OP)
Uh oh guess you have to shoot kikes in their big inbred nose

>>509953362
Yeah, and you're one of them.
Fuck off back to plebbit.

>>509955108
fucking retard, they should triple the price of college, add interest and punch them all in the head. Fucking faggots can pay for their own leftist indoctrination

>cut taxes on wealthy people
>garnish wages of poor people
we're returning to serfdom
middle class is dead.

>>509971694
>borrow money
>have to pay it back
oy vey its anuddah shoah

>>509952490 (OP)

>>509967265
that's like 1300 every pay period, which makes you dilate harder

>>509952490 (OP)
So student loan forgiveness in twelve weeks?

>>509971739
it's literally jewish bankers that are benefiting from this.

>>509955919
Trade school hard caps your potential and ensures you will never be more than a blue collar lackey. We cannot maintain a society entirely made up of bricklayers and monkeys turning wrenches.

>>509971110
So prove to me then that there are ZERO or very few jobs available for someone looking for one in most states

>>509970331
>No one forced you to make an unsecured loan to a jobless teen

you're wrong. penalties were put in place for any discrimination based on age, creed, color, sex, and a list of other things.
A lot of handicapped people did get a degree, a job, really improved their quality of life and repaid their debts. They were honest people not thieves, and liars.

>>509971110
>I've seen this dumbassed boomer argument so many times that I've been convinced its propaganda
It is. It's the type of reasoning they do where they are enabled to blame the victim for the problem they're suffering for so they can personally feel bad about not having that problem themselves.

They're convinced Not-Them is trying to get something out of them and they're on this aggressive defensive when Not-Them is simply trying to survive too. It's a shallow, scarcity-focused mentality from spoiled farts.

>>509971531
>calculus and engineering are leftist indoctrination
I'm tired of hearing this. Dumbfucks who couldn't get into college think every class is about gay communism.

>>509972173
pay your loan back you stupid fucking nigger

>>509971739
>put someone into debt to get a good paying job to pay off the debt
>don't give them the good paying job
>take whatever you can from them through force
Oh vey, how jewish.

>>509972242
Get over White Stacy not fucking you, Chang.

>>509952947
>why should bankers and debt collectors make a return on an investment they made into a jobless penniless teen with no work experience
You backed a loser and paid for it. Learn some fiscal responsibility

>>509972115
If you want to villify people for looking out for their own financial stability then don't be surprised when they aren't sympathetic to your situation.

>>509966215
This is every every populist position

>Quality of life gets worse for some specific reason
>Democrats offer milquetoast solution that sounds good on paper
>Get elected and then do literally nothing about it but offer platitudes, offer hollow social policy instead
>Republicans point out "hey, they didn't do anything and their social policies hurt (insert x demographic here)"
>Get elected, revoke last terms social policies minus one or two things so they don't look too outdated. Proceed to "fix the economy" by pumping up the rich in some manner
>Quality of life for the average joe gets worse

This cycle is true back to lbj or nixon. The only potential exception is clinton

>>509970604
Pics from the 80s are always fun.
People always look happy back then

>>509972335
>be white man
>go to college
>pay loan back
>spiteful mutant on pol calls you a chink
kek
2 more weeks until you seize the means of production
stop acting like a nigger and pay your loan

>>509972443
You still haven't proven you're "paying for someone else's loans" period. You can't financially show, anywhere, where you lose money or assets or value by someone else's loan being forgiven.

Forgiveness is not you "paying for" the loan. Period. Stop lying.

>>509972083
>you're wrong

No I'm not.

>>509968275
Do you know what interest is? Do you know what the median wage is?

>>509955291
Oooh, you forgot that last period!

>>509972588
>the government's monetary policy should be "money isn't real"
i can see why you weren't able to get a job

>>509954574
I recruit welders
Yall not making shit

>>509972511
No more like
>be white man
>get "good grades"
>get "good degree"
>graduate instead of "dropping out"
>employers refuse to hire you
>get peer pressured into continue working shit dead end $9/hr jobs and told to forget about degree and career.
>some anonymous faggot online comes by and blames you for this because their sexless, miserable losers looking for a rise out of people.

Stop acting like a kike. Niggers actually get scholarships for being niggers and don't have loan problems. You worthless retards have no personal experience with college because you're a NEET faggot.

>>509972588
>You still haven't proven you're "paying for someone else's loans"
I never said I am, at best I'm saying it could get to that.
>Forgiveness is not you "paying for" the loan
Sure, if the government outright erases it. But until they do there's always the much bigger chance of them passing it on to the taxpayer.

>>509972828
>I don't understand monetary economics 318
I see why you were too stupid to pass college courses, nigger.

>>509952490 (OP)
heh, this only hurts niggers and leftards. rightoids will get jobs and pay back their loans

>>509973041
and yet you're the one crying about having a debt here

>>509960556
Succinct and correct post.

>>509971110
I operate heavy equipment. I've had my job for a long time, but work was slow. We're clearing a site for a Giga factory, that they are about to build.
My company isn't doing the construction, we're just flattening the land where the building will be built. Relocating trees, tearing down a few buildings, and houses.
We hired 1100 new people just for our part of the project, and there are other projects set after this one is finished.
The construction companies that build the building will hire more people than we did.
And when the factory opens it will employ 10s of thousands of people.

>>509972044
That's exactly the point jackass. Its corporate and government kabuki theater. Its not that theres literally no jobs, its that the entire hiring process is a web of lies at all levels. Theres no transparency on purpose. If you don't know which jobs are ghost jobs, then you wouldn't know to not apply for them. If employers were forced to be honest about hiring practices, the economy would implode because lies are the only thing propping up the economy at this point.

One can't magically pull back the curtain on how each company hires people. Its deliberately in the dark and without logic so they can depress wages and keep people under their boot.

Honestly, the best fix for recent graduates would be a law forcing exact job specifics like salary, forced disclosure of ghost job postings listed for more than a month, and mandating that all applicants receive some sort of feedback if they are rejected instead of sitting around for months only to be sent a generic rejection email.

>>509973734
Good effort post and the point is
>Everyone is lying as much as possible
That's the entire point.

>>509973375
Thank you.

>>509973249
You're crying over debt being forgiven here, you never had a point or argument.

From what I can tell most new jobs are in Red states. Blue states are fucking their own people with bureaucracy. Republicans are pushing into the future, while democrats are living in the great depression.

Just stating facts, not trying to change anyone's opinion, I know that's a waste of time. Libtards are hard-wired delusional, nothing you say is going to snap them out of it. They live in fantasy world, not reality.
Just ignore them, and keep moving forward.

>>509973734
Again, prove to me what you say is true or you're just making unverifiable claims. I could claim you're an ugly, obese homosexual who eats their own feces and that means nothing unless we equate my "proof" with yours and then the claims are equally as true.

>>509973997
I'm not though, unless you actually mean "transferring the debt to people who didn't incur it", which isn't actually forgiving it

>>509973734
>Honestly, the best fix for recent graduates would be a law forcing exact job specifics like salary, forced disclosure of ghost job postings listed for more than a month, and mandating that all applicants receive some sort of feedback if they are rejected instead of sitting around for months only to be sent a generic rejection email.
I've been floating the idea of a Rejection Fee of $1000. If someone applies for a job and the company doesn't hire them -- they owe them $1000. Period. It's for wasting their time and energy giving all their information and answering all their questions for nothing. If companies want to hire people but waste everyone's time in the process, they're going to pay for it...

And it encourages them not to make ghost jobs, because then they'll end up paying millions in rejection fees. Put up the listing, find someone fast, hire them. If not they will be bleeding money.

>>509974399
>transferring the debt to people who didn't incur it"
That's not actually happen and has not being seriously proposed. That's just the strawman the Feds keep whispering in boomer ears.

>>509974478
>That's not actually happen
Correct, so thanks for admitting you are wrong about your assumption of my argument.
>That's just the strawman the Feds keep whispering in boomer ears.
If they could/wanted to just erase the debt they would have done it, instead the previous administration dangled in front debt holders to try and get votes. How does it feel knowing it's (You) that got manipulated by the feds?

>>509973451
1100 semi-temporary jobs. Teenagers can't just time the market on when particular jobs are open in particular fields. Look at compsci. If you told an 18 year old 4 years ago that its was a good field to go into at that time, you would be right. Look at where that field is now. You cant blame new graduates for not being able to get jobs immediately because market forces change on a dime. The only way to ensure 1:1 labor matching is to bring back training or apprenticeships