Thread 509970971

2 people working for $15/hr is a perfect wage.

It's enough for 2 people to afford a house, 2 cars, in a good city, and even enough to have a baby.

People who whine about it "not being enough" is PURE greed. You don't know how lucky you are already.

>>509970971 (OP)
Day of the pillow when?

>>509970971 (OP)
> The left gets culture war victories.
The right gets tax cuts and deregulation.
And the working class—of every color—gets gutted.
>>509970971 (OP)
>a baby

>>509970971 (OP)
You can have a house in a walkable city on one $15/hr job in fact.

>>509970971 (OP)
it's hard to even know where to begin with boomers this delusional, let's just make sure their final years are extra special

>>509970971 (OP)
>enough to buy a house
They unironically would struggle to meet the requirements of renting. It's over

>>509970971 (OP)
Shit I made 12 an hour when I was 18 and single and that shit wasn't enough to live off of in Nashville kek. I had to sell weed on the side so I could afford groceries and this was in 2009.

>>509970971 (OP)
He’s right. 31 and have never made over 24k Canadian in a year and I have 148k averaging a 36% return on the market. I spend a lot of time in Asia but I work in Canada much of the year. Once you just stop trying to pursue any fun in Canada and just use it as a place to work it becomes easy. I imagine USA is probably even easier. Consoomers are fucking faggots.

>>509971290
With the medicaid rugpull they probably will be

>>509970971 (OP)
Two people working. Who raises the child?

>>509971266
Why don't we go for a walking tour of our new town! Starting here, the view out your front door. Wow, what a great view. A nice park with plenty of shade trees. This looks relaxing!

>>509970971 (OP)
this is complete denial of how male / female relations work
man must first provide and be successful to attract girl to marry.

>>509971561
Grandma

>>509971266
>>509971625
Gary, Indiana is the best kept secret in America folks. Real cheap 1950s prices, vibrant diversity, Michael Jackson's hometown, industriousness and grit. What's not to love?

>>509971625
Now on to our first stop! A leisurely 15 minute walk and we're already standing in front of several businesses. Here's our new walgreens and cvs.

>>509971650
Both of my grandfathers died before I was born, both of my grandmothers died before I hit 10. If my mother was not a housewife I would have had an unpleasant childhood. I went to a friend's house when I was young and he had some black woman taking care of him while his mom went off to work. Thank god that didn't happen to me.

>>509970971 (OP)
No woman is going to look at anyone making 15 an hour as marriage material.

>>509971550
You're thinking of Medicare primarily, Medicaid does have a few programs that help boomers but not many. It primarily hurts younger disabled folks and single pregnant moms and shit, which is overwhelmingly spics and nigs so not a bad thing.

>>509971758
Just around the corner? That's our grocery. I can just walk to the grocery whenever I need to? Nice, I won't need a car very much! I think I will "save a lot" (sensible chuckle.gif)

>>509971462
Do you live at home or something? If you only average 24k a year what the fuck rent do you pay? Canadian rent prices are insane so how are you paying less than 2k a month?

>>509971692
>What a quaint little house, most of the bullet holes have even been patched up!

>>509971828
They are also cutting medicare, he's not confused.

https://www.kiplinger.com/retirement/medicare/changes-to-medicare-in-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-act

>>509971863
And what is this across the street? The Barnhouse restaurant huh? That breakfast skillet looks delicious. I'll have to try that some time!

>>509971863
then go work there yourself, bitch

>>509971692
>Gary
It's not a secret, it's a well known shit hole with a poverty rate of 32% kek.

>>509970971 (OP)
How did we get here?

jews->scamdemic->stimulus<-->oil->tight profit margins->exploit wagies->car dependence<-->too many people

>>509972004
Nobody wants to move to Gary with you

>>509972004
Let's keep walking. Oh wow, a passenger rail station! This really is great. I'm pretty sure I don't need a car at all now.

>>509970971 (OP)
Murray.

Every damn time.

Hitler was right about the Jews wanting women in the workforce to depression wages and force families into dual income necessity just to buy food and housing.

>>509970971 (OP)
Then the infant can get a job and they can all retire!

>>509970971 (OP)
I can't imagine being bad enough at math to believe something like that
Also:
>48 hours isn't such a bad work week
>what's wrong with a 52 hour work week goy?
>stop complaining about a 60 hour work week
>not working 80 hours a week? this is literally a brand new shoah!

>>509972103
I can be in America's third largest city in 2hrs 15mins. Plenty of hustle and bustle, but I can be back in time to sleep in my own cozy little house before the day is over.

>>509970971 (OP)
$74k/yr is enough for 2 people to be homeless in a van. $150k/yr is the absolute bottom for entrance to lower-middle class.

>>509971290
It's engagement bait, boomer probably sold his account to a bunch of indian spammers

>>509971155
fpbp

>>509971155
>>509970971 (OP)
Accounting for inflation,
Minimum wage should be closer to $200/hr

>>509970971 (OP)
3 day x 9 hour work week, that's my offer. Oh, and we execute every rich kike and wasp on live TV.

>>509970971 (OP)
this guy must be a privileged faggot who has never dealt with stress in his whole life and has no fucking clue how much of a hindrance it can be

>>509972246
There's so many businesses around the station too! Wow, look at the size of that furniture store. I'm gonna need some furniture in my new affordable house! Maybe they're hiring. Maybe I can even earn a commission on top of the $15/hour state minimum wage. I bet I could get an employee discount too. I'm so happy I decided to move to affordable house in my new walkable city.

it's impossible to hold a fucking job
you have to use body spray and deoderant not to get fired
then you have to upsell the business collecting phone numbers, the average person quits in like a few months if they haven't gotten fired already, working in retail is a shit job, the managers actively avoid the cashier so they don't have to collect numbers and they have too much shit to do anyway, they'd rather hide in the office than stand behind the counter, it's like that at any retail job you could be fired in an instant

>>509970971 (OP)
I mean technically they would be approved for a $350k loan with 20% down

Most financial experts would recommend a $225k max based on that income

>>509972428
>20% down
Kek.
>20 years to save up the down payment.

>>509971259
>a

>>509971872
To be honest for a year when I was in my early 20s, I lived out of my car, and worked 70 hour work weeks as a sec guard.
Saved a lot of money and went to school next year, although it sucked so bad and I nearly ended myself many times while during it.

>>509971462
bullshit unless you don't pay rent

>>509972410
But you know, I'm going to want some entertainment... what's this? That is one adorable cinema. I'm defnitely going to stop here on a date with one of the local farmer's daughters! lol

>>509971872
I was making 18 bucks an hour then.

>>509970971 (OP)
This boomer hasn't paid a bill on his own in decades.

>>509972624
Oh well, I need to get back to my new affordable house. The internet guy is coming today to hook up my FIVE GIG FIBER?! Gyat, I'm gonna shitpost on /pol/ so hard after that is hooked up! Fr fr, nc ong!

>>509970971 (OP)
Does he have some kids?

Born in 1985 that is the best year.

wow more bait engagement. not only that but the same one ive seen posted 4 times already

christ the internet suicks now

>>509970971 (OP)
It's doable, but no one wants to marry and practice safe sex and abstinence until marriage and career establishment. Hell work for the fire brigade or as a patrolman, guaranteed pensions and union benefits.

We need more couples giving birth, we also need our work force fully staffed. These illegal migrants are getting out of here, we are going to need at the minimum a few thousand workers, on top of the already vacant jobs and service jobs. My local mcdonalds has a hiring sign for 19$ an hour, that is insane i would have killed for that wage as a teen or young adult. Who cares, just throw on an apron and do your job, go home, there is no shame in working in the service industry. I scream at a lot of these new wave employees of gen z, they move without any sense of urgency. I am sitting here for 10 minutes in the vestibule and you have not greeted me regardless of me being right by the register. It used to be workers with a smile, greeting me by name and asking what I would like to eat. They were polite and nice, like Chick Filet is sometimes if its in the nice part of town. I am expected to download an application and use coupons, they never send me coupons in the mail anymore. I pay full menu price to have a bad experience I could go to a bar and get better food.

I used to get the 50 cent burger and they would throw me free potato fries. Now its soulless, these kids at wendys stand around and do nothing, they are not rushing around like they used to, they let the lines back up to the street its infuriating. I go in the lobby and these teens are just sitting there at the popeyes, doing nothing while I stand there hungry. Again, no one greets me or they rudely ask what I want. Then these millennials and gen z go on line and say how people yell at them in customer service, but purposefully miss out the fact that they are lazy, unprofessional and rude. I reach out to the Better Business Bureau each time I have a problem like this.

>>509973007
Post the 4 other times you've seen this.

Boomers are extremely out of touch.
In 1990
>rent/mortgage=600
>big screen t.v=1200
>latest gadgets=1000
>treats=20
Now
>rent/mortgage=2300
>big screen t.v=400!
>latest gagets=400
>treats=12
Everything has flipped, thats why boomers are always saying quit eating guac toast and buying starbucks. . because they're mentally brown and retarded. Just arrogantly assume everything is just the same as it was before

>>509971462
>I have 148k averaging a 36% return on the market
No you don’t. Nancy Pelosi doesn’t even do that well and she does literal insider trading.

>>509971259

Monsters walk freely because people let them. Weakness is a choice and the tolerance of incompetence is not a virtue.

>>509971872
I lived at home till 25 so pretty late but I have a 50k line of credit with the bank which keeps afloat when the market is down. I moved to Alberta from Vancouver. I work lowly contract jobs under 20 hrs a week and then leave for Asia when the contract concludes and my lease ends. If the end of my contract doesn’t line up with the end of my lease I go on unemployment insurance (which you cannot collect abroad) I live in a new apartment with no furniture right now but the building is nice. Poor people never understand they’re poor they’re always treating themselves impulsively and have the worst habits.

>>509973069
>treats

>>509971809
I would’ve been better without my mom. So many women are dumb as fuck.

I make like 70 an hour but that's not alot in Canada because I still rent a shitholr apartment

>>509970971 (OP)
>OT hours and benefits available at convenience store/fast food jobs
Boomers who haven't had to find a new job since the Reagan administration need to shut the fuck up on this subject

>>509973363
Good for you making so much more than me but you’re retarded.

>>509970971 (OP)
I can't imagine living on $15 an hour here without my quality of life cratering completely. And I'm not a burger so I don't have to pay for health insurance and shit like that.

>>509973069
why would i do something that tedious? search for it yourself

yes your bait was already posted multiple times before ergo not clever

>>509972217
Not only that but he thinks both the husband and the wife should be doing this. So what's that, 96hrs per week between the two. Never see each other, never have time to cook and eat well, or look after the home (which you still can't afford), never have time for procrastination or any kind of recreation time. No. Just the two people working constantly.
This is what feminists wanted. I swear to God anon as much as jews are the ultimate evil in this world; women are like the sword that they wield. Only women would be fucking pathologically retarded enough to campaign to be forced into servitude to be tax cattle. They fucking allowed jews to ruin us. God damn it anon I'm so fucking mad.

Total boomer death is the only and final solution.

>>509973363

37% tax bracket?

>>509971644
Liberals don't understand social structures or relationships or even humanity itself really. They conceptualize everything as a market. In his scenario, the man and woman are business partners in the market. The market is everything in the liberal world view.

>>509972898
There is probably an actual business opportunity here if you could somehow get rid of the niggers and flip the houses for 2-3 times what they're currently selling for to chicagoans looking for a cheap alternative commute.

>>509973624

>liberals
Its every political party that thinks like this. Fuck off with your partisan faggotry.

>>509972898
Damn, to be so "poor" I feel rich now. All with $15/hr. My quality of life is just better in my walkable city.
>Kewanee compared to Illinois state average:
>Median household income below state average.
>Median house value significantly below state average.
>Unemployed percentage below state average.
>Black race population percentage below state average.
>Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
>Top 100 cities with lowest ratio of median house value to median household income (pop. 5,000+)

>>509973578
>yes your bait

Oh, you're just a dumb nigger making shit up and don't even recognize IDs.

>>509971259
>the average American is willing to make this sacrifice
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus

>>509973624
Dr. Murray is not a liberal. He's a top conservative thinker, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and a top economic/social adviser to the Trump administration and the GOP Congress (the Medicaid cuts in the recent budget bill were partly his idea).

>>509972611
I pay $1800 all in for a one bedroom.

>>509973112
I do and it’s not that difficult. Average is from 2016 on. Hundreds of YouTubers do better than me.

>>509970971 (OP)
/pol/ will seethe at this, but cannot REFUTE it:

>>509970971 (OP)
In my experience in Texas, convenience and retail stores only higher management as full-time or maybe those who have been with the company for 20 years. Everyone else is limited to 32 hours so that they are not eligible for employee benefits.

>>509973512
80 percent of americans live in eastern euro conditions after you factor in expenses.
Keep in mind median income in the US is 45k.

>>509973854
You do not make a 36% return.
Or if you do, it's very brief because whoever is providing that APY is about to run out of other people's money.

>>509970971 (OP)
>2 people
fuck you faggot

>>509970971 (OP)
My father was a offset printer he didnt even finish the 9th grade and my mother was a music teacher that worked part time. We had everything we could wish (other than good pizzas and computers that we had to pay for ourselves).

But now you have trannies lets get hype for a fagflag in the middle of nowhere.

>>509973033
then use the self check out you dumb cuck, no one wants to smile for a living to complete strangers

>>509973772
Every political party in the West is liberal.
>>509973846
"Conservatives" in the US are liberals.

>>509973854
only 36% yearly return? thats not bad for a beginner portfolio but personally i try to stay above 50. some people are just quicker and smarter on that ol wild west they call the exchange my friend... and some people, welp, they push daisies.

>>509972371
What do you think the entire point of the Fed is? It’s to steal our wealth through inflation? Why on earth would would wages rise 1 to 1 over the long term with inflation?

>>509973073
Not just that but his assumption all people are going to get married and split the bills when marriage rates are going down

>>509971259
>america's survival rests on horrific abuse of children
If that is true, then America doesn't deserve to exist.

>>509974346

I hope what that guy said was done sarcastically.

>>509974008
Tesla, Nvidia, Salesforce, Amazon owned all these before 2022 then got into BTC and BTC miner companies that trade as stocks, had a bad year and a half and then in late 2023 a lot of positions went ballistic again. No options just buying and selling. I only have 148k. It’s good but nothing I’m doing is that remarkable.

>>509974119
Waitresses and bartenders smile for a tip, I throw a dollar in the donation box if I get good service in mcdonalds. I do not like using a machine, it makes my eyes hurt through my glasses and I prefer social interaction.

What the hell happened? No one knows how to hold a conversation anymore, I try talking to younger people and they try to get out of it awkwardly when everyone used to know how to conversation. Scared of phone calls, scared of doorbell rings, scared to drive.

Millennials ruined this generation

>>509970971 (OP)
Wrong. Not over here bub.
Gotta both make at least 35k plus just to squeak by and still get fucked

>>509974171
Then don't complain when younger generations realize how hard they're getting fucked compared to older generations and appropriately respond by either NEETing or doing the absolute bare minimum at work

>>509974153
I agree honestly but many people here seem to think what i said isn’t doable. Feels good.

>>509973846
He's using the actual meaning of the word, of which Murray is a shining example, and this is coming from someone who read The Bell Curve in high school.

the stupid boomer can't even add right
24x40x55 is 55k which is really 40k after taxes

>>509974449
>Millennials ruined this generation
It wasn't us we talked when I was a kid. Every generation just got fucked when social media became a thing. Most of it was made by gen x and boomers outside Facebook

>just work overtime every single week until you die
>just have a kid that you'll never see, good luck on you and your wife's work schedules lining up so you can maybe have a chance at having sex unless she's too tired

>>509973930
The reason they can’t find them is because you would need to pay at least $80/hour to EQUAL the the inflation adjusted wages of the 1960’s when we were on the gold standard and anyone could easily make it working any blue collar job, with 3-4 kids and your wife raising them in vibrant local communities.

MAGA thinks that illegals lower wages. This isn’t true at all. The reality is it’s impossible to pay the inflation adjusted wages of the 1960’s. If you magically deported every illegal and wages went up to $40/hour for white people, it still wouldn’t be worth it. That would be enough to live semi-comfortable alone. You could never have 3 kids and a wife just chilling.

Every single year since going off the gold standard it became less and less worth it for whites to do all the tough jobs Hispanics now do. And Hispanics were slowly being let in and would happily do the jobs since they want to leave their countries

>>509970971 (OP)
>Commies crying about how $12 is slavery
>but are fine with illegals working for even less

>>509974605
Now imagine not having a kid what are you even working for at that point?

>>509974701
Hi

>they both work 48 hour weeks
No they do not. Minimum wage/low skill jobs will not permit you to work more than 39 hours because they specifically do not want to give you any benefits of any kind.

>People who whine about it "not being enough" is PURE greed
Not mentioned: the cost of health insurance, the cost of childcare for that baby, and the fact that the rent (yes, rent, you will not be buying a house on 74k/year) will increase every year while your wages will not.

>>509974171
Wages should rise MORE than 1 to 1 with inflation over the long term, as technology makes one hour of labor more productive.

>>509973930
He says the idea that unkilled workers now have it harder than before is wrong then says none of it applies if you got a bad degree. So which is it?

>>509974746
Ok

>>509974740
Hi I feel like we are kindered souls. I have no kids but my last two jobs gave me some meaning and were great. Then both got sold off and I was laid off both times replaced by pajeets but boomers say I need to keep going working in an economy that hates me for no reason

The living wage where I am is $23.15
Tim Hortons is paying $20 and I know the rich jeet in my area that bought a big property, built some houses on it, and I know he’s got at least 20 of them living there.

>>509970971 (OP)
Bros.....

>>509970971 (OP)
Der boomer

>>509974701
>what are you even working for at that point?
loyalty to your family (possibly your family's children?) ambition or adventurous spirit? the simple pursuit of empty pleasures? maybe planning on some work of art like a book or an epic minecraft achievement? motivations depend on what is important to you

>>509970971 (OP)
$12 in 2025 is like $3 in 2005 money

>>509970971 (OP)
I live in a shit hole town in Texas two and half hours from Houston and probably three hours from Dallas. I pay 2200 a month for an incredibly average house. There’s no way a couple making 75k a year could afford that. This boomer needs to get a reality check.
>but my spreadsheet told me so!!

I CANNOT STAND FUCKING BEAN COUNTERS

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF ASAP

MUH LINE GO UP BOOMER RETARD

>>509974922
I don't have a family. I live in a city that is one of the worst to find a woman and start a family.

>>509974511
I understand that. The people deserve to get poorer because they don’t understand how they are getting poorer. The left is right about “income inequality,” they just don’t understand how it’s happening. Cuz of inflation and no gold backing the currency.

MAGA is just as stupid. They say, “we’ll work harder or go to school and get a better job! Min wage is for teenagers!.” While that’s good advice, that’s like telling a Venezuelan who can only afford a dozen eggs after working for an entire week to just work harder and get a better job. And MAGA is the supposed constitutionalists who should know the constitution says only congress shall coin money and only gold and silver shall be legal tender.

>>509974990
I'm sorry to hear it anon, don't give up hope, if the city fails there's your hometown, if that fails there's passport bros method

>>509973579
its one of the best weapons they've developed

>>509970971 (OP)
That's not even enough to get approved with PMI unless you are buying a former crack den in niggerville. Baby on top of that with both parents working? Hope they have an extra 1200-1600 a month

>both work 48 hour weeks
>have a baby
That's a fucking joke.

>>509975033
This isn't MAGA this is everyone

>>509975073
Sigh....the city is my hometown
Youtube for some reason suggested me passport bro videos and I went on a wild ride where most of the people I watched got scammed by fillipino woman who seem to be on the grift now

>>509973073
Sorry bud, in the modern world, latest gadgets are $2,000+

Stop making up bullshit.

The fact is anyone can afford a kid. You will just have to cope with being mega poor the rest of your life. This is against 80 years of everyone saying everything will always get better and cheaper while life get easier. You can't really goo back to depression era thinking over night

>>509975182
unironically go to ghana

>>509975252
have fun paying for bribes

>>509970971 (OP)
>It's enough for 2 people to afford a house

How did men do this before women worked?

>>509975252
No I am just going to die in the corner somewhere and attempt to get a dog beforehand. Maybe get land in PA somewhere and stay there till I die

>>509975303
its not so bad if you dont keep all your money in one pocket/pack/whatever
>>509975354
well if you get bored of that there's plenty of places to go where you would be "popular"

>>509973930
>young married couple
>baby
boomer fantasy

>>509970971 (OP)
Convenience store jobs in low housing cost areas are not paying $15/hr. On a $30/hr salary, which is unattainable in those areas, you have a 60k salary. To see what you can afford, search "how much house can I afford with 60k salary." Then shit your pants in rage because comfortably you can only afford a 180k house, which is no house at all. You can't even afford a shitty rundown condo with that. You can buy a really nice van though, and that's what young Americans are having to resort to.

Look up how much you can afford on your salary. I'm convinced that if Ameicans could do math they'd finally fucking rebel. We're being completely thrown out of having normal fulfilling lives. 95%+ of us will NEVER be able to afford a house.

>>509973170
> 50k line of credit with the bank

personal line? do they just up and give it you if you request it?

>>509975586
give it to*

>>509975558
>Look up how much you can afford on your salary. I'm convinced that if Ameicans could do math they'd finally fucking rebel.
(((They))) prevent that with debt. Keep the goyim fat and happy with a house and truck and vacations they can't afford and they'll think they are much richer and more prosperous than they really are.

>>509970971 (OP)
48 hours a week not 40 hours. That's working 6 days a week if you're lucky. Convenience store or fast food shifts are practically on call demanding bastards that will make you work odd hours 7 days a week or you're fired. Don't like working a double dayshift then working for 3 hours at 3 a.m. a day later? Too bad so sad, your wifey has opposite shifts and never fucking sees you.
Ever point out that you can't have a family under those conditions? That kind of independence streak makes the Boomer pinkslip mad crazy. Best I can do is replace you with an illegal immigrant.

There are a lot of obvious practical issues with this.

No employer especially a fucking convenience store wants to pay consistent overtime, so that 48 number he used to massage his math is already goofy

If they are working hourly they aren't getting any benefits, so that's going to be a problem with the baby and the insane out of pocket cost of childbirth especially with impossible to predict complications

Who the fuck watches the baby? Hope Grandma is still alive and feeling generous because mortgage is going to eat up too much of that income to afford childcare. Will likely completely erase one of their incomes basically.

>>509975586
Yeah and I owe 8k on it. 9 percent interest a year paid out monthly. Our rates are a bit lower. And yes whenever I want.

>>509975965
>Ever point out that you can't have a family under those conditions?
MANY people have pointed out these anti-Semitic posts like yours. Cool it. This is not the time, or place for that.

>>509972428
30k per year would go to rent alone. This is supposed to be people who aren't established and have little financial history.

>>509970971 (OP)
15 an hour for a hole year is 3 . This retard cant even do basic fucking math.

>>509976315
He just multiplied 2 x 15 x 48 x 52 with no regard to taxes or everything else you mentioned.

>>509971561
The state, of course. Don't worry, they'll take real gud care of them, goy.

>>509974326
He even assumes a woman with a newborn can work 20 hours a week. He's full blown delusional. Funny how people from countries where they don't even know how to wipe their ass are magically amazing workers according to these lead poisoned geriatric fucks.

>>509974424
Your portfolio might have gone up in value by 36% in one year, but your year on year average return is not 36%.
To put it into perspective, Warren Buffet had a CAGR (compound annual growth rate) of 18%-20% and that made him basically a god of investing with legendary, unmatched returns.
S&P500 averages like 7%-10% per year with dividends. Furthermore Pelosi and her husband are literally career criminal insider trading jews and even they only manage what like 20% per year?
You might get it once or twice but to say that's your average is just a lie.
You'd make $5M in 20 years from just 10k lol not gonna happen unless you go back to 1998 and buy Amazon IPO and hodl for two decades.
Good for you, I always like seeing Orangepilled bros here. Not saying you don't hold those assets, I'm saying your annual average return is not 36% and if it is then it's just because you're lacking long term data and/or you're holding extremely risky heavy LP bags like it's 2022, and in which case you need to gtfo of them bro.

>>509973983
This. So many of his assumptions in that tweet amount to assuming the incredibly unlikely best case scenario multiple times.

>>509971692
LMAO my Muay Thai teacher straight up left Indiana for nigger filled HOUSTON and converted to catholicism.

>>509970971 (OP)
In what fantasy world are young minimum wage workers "married couples"?
You can't argue that marriage makes stagnant wages workable while also pushing feminist and fag culture that sees marriages delayed until 30's to 40's
the young are ALONE and they need to be able to afford to live on those terms.

>>509970971 (OP)
Even if you want to use this as an excuse. There is the problem of our modern dating culture and women in which it’s almost impossible to get a healthy and cooperative relationship as this boomer describes

So what about the vast majority that are on their own and don’t get the benefits of a dual income?

>>509972371
Minimum wage should be 1 ozt of silver per hour. That's what it was in 1964.

>>509977461
Boomers can't comprehend what kind of clown world dating and work environments are created when women refuse to date men who earn less than them while simultaneously screeching muh soggy knee patriarchy whenever men earn more than them.

Bros I am married, I work 45hr weeks and sadly my wife is also working right now. Combined we earn a paltry $105k/yr and we are buying a house (getting the keys on Monday lol) and it's going to be extremely tight for a while.
It's not supposed to be like this bros. I will never forgive women for being the useful retards of the jews. Women really ruined society in a very real way. Every single thing would be fixed if women weren't forced to work.

>>509970971 (OP)
>>509969106
he is listing the life for like 1/10 white males. It should be the natural trajectory of life. Here is where his argument falls apart though... It is all based upon the assumption you found a highschool sweetheart that didnt cuck you and you started life fast. He assumes that you really took initiative and got to fucking in highschool or college with a woman that loves to fuck exclusively you for atleast 18 years. I didn't. I'm old now. Back when i was young there was no such thing as baby bonuses until my late 20s and if you had a shit job and a ton of kids life would have been poverty row. There was no way to foresee the insanity of baby bonuses. So college and the trades then the workforce we went busting our asses and breaking our backs to compete... then baby bonuses happened and white girls where getting knocked up left and right by minorities and layabout dickslingers. The free money train came in fast and before you knew it you were financially competing with people that were getting 5-20k handed to them in a lump sum and getting free healthcare beyond your wildest dreams for free. The beta work horse was destroyed. Many alphas were destroyed too. This is combined with the do nothing and high paying jobs women get and you will see that women refuse to pursue men for their physical prowess or intellect. They just want money, chad or tyrone or pablo, eat hot chip, and gain status. I've had sex many times. I also do not think its a coincidence that birth control was unleashed on all young women from my generation and taken perpetually by them for two decades now since the time they were in highschool. Yes, i believe baby bonuses were pushed to destroy us and that you have no idea what simply not handing out money like ed mcmahon every year would do to correct everything back to a pre-obama economy. Let the kids and milfs keep their healthcare, but the wealth redistribution has to end for most men to have a chance again, i think.

>>509970971 (OP)
>just be slaves goy work 48 hours a week put your wife to work that much too goy
How do people like this exist? What is wrong with these retards

>>509974404
If you read carefully, he's saying that we should release the Epstein list and deal with the consequences of that. He's just a retard who worded it poorly so it kind of sounds like he was saying the opposite. He's saying the average American would rather make the sacrifice and watch America become a failed state than to cover up for pedophiles.

>>509977253
It’s exactly that — extremely risky bags. I can tell you’re smarter than me but you don’t trade. I have cleanspark, marathon digital I just sold out of iren. I’ve held cleanspark since 2022 after I rotated out of the other big names. Surely someone reading this knows that I’m talking about. I’ve had several massive years like 200% year over year. I had as little as 26k in Q1 2022. Again, I only have 148k. No one thinks I’m successful including myself.

Ok, so who raises my children?

Roll the footage of the LGBTQ classroom

>>509973930
i actually tried buying a 1950's working class house on $55k a year
it was $195k
the basement was flooding at inspection
it sold for $205k

Republicans: The lowest performing 99% of Americans deserve to die penniless in the gutter.

Also Republicans: How come no one has any national pride anymore?

>>509977702
>Communism (redistribution resources to a favored group) makes society worse
Imagine my fucking shock

We could also stand to get rid of copyright laws. Cue the ivory tower intellectual bitching, but artists dont contribute fucking shit and deserve to be poor instead of the top 0.01% of rich people and have outsized political influence for essentially being a kind of whore.

>>509977898
In what world are artists the top 0.01% of rich people? You mean musicians and rock stars? The "starving artist" stereotype exists for a reason

>>509970971 (OP)
>48 hour weeks.
The hypothetical is immediately too ridiculous.

>>509971259
explain to me how a few hundred people going to jail would destroy our country.

>>509970971 (OP)
>just work 8 hours a day, 6 days a week with no more days off than one per week
>together with a wife
>to just barely survive
>don't forget to pay taxes on that income btw
I thought most jobs are 5 days a week which would make their combined income $62,400 before taxes

>>509977253
I’m sending you a screenshot one sec

>>509977898
>but artists dont contribute fucking shit and deserve to be poor
The best artists in history have all been poors who had to choose between their art and living comfortably, so those that chose their art were truly passionate and driven about it.

>>509970971 (OP)
I hate this fag. in what world are big box stores giving people overtime? Most of them don't even give you full time (they give you 40 hours, then 40, then I'm like 32 so you're not technically full time)

>>509977738
Trust me anon we are in very similar spots even down to the timing and the net worth. I get called a liar and stuff whenever I post about my own financial situation. All I did is budget carefully, diversify and hodl BTC and I did something like an 8x on my money since 2022. Got so much silver that I can't stand it, I have gold ounces, I keep a fucking brick of cash, got some tradfi, and I've got two devices for deep cold storage. Just a paltry 6 figs like you - being a wholecoiner means you still have to wageslave right now.
Maybe you actually are some kind of savant trader, unironically. You might not know it. And no you are correct, I do not trade anymore. Leverage isn't ideal for someone working retail for $10/hr (can't believe I even did that).
I have pulled myself to financial freedom by cleaning toilets and gross nasty sinks and in just a few days I'll have my first house, and I'm not even selling a single sat to make it happen.

>>509977949
I mean the media mogul rich, movie stars, rock stars, taylor swift, sports stars, etc. And of course, the jews that own them and take the majority of the profit. Copyright law basically exists entirely for those people and has been continuously twisted to meet their needs. It's at life plus seventy for whoever buys the rights to something now.

>>509971692
Screen shot this: Gary Indiana is the new Jerusalem. Ex-Israelis in the know settle in Indiana's Lake County, the real Chosen People's Land
אמריקה של אלוהים
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_County,_Indiana

>>509977253
I don't know why 2024 isn't there.

>>509978204
>8x
I'm adding that this is an eyeball estimate since I bought over a long time period so I can't even remember my initial but I think I turned about $16k into $112k lol whatever that is, that's what I did.

>>509977898

i agree and metallica defeating napster was a sad day.

>>509970971 (OP)
It’s extremely low for the prices of everything in this country

Not a good wage at all. Should be a lot closer to $20/hr at the least. It’s disgusting that prices half gone up over twice the amount and wages are the same

>>509970971 (OP)
Unironically there's an element of truth to this kind of thinking. Most minimum or low wage workers I know:
>waste money on alcohol, drugs and fast food
>buy brand new top end phones
>have a car loan for a car way out of their price range
>spend frivolously on stupid trinkets
>buy heaps of makeup or video games (woman/man)
Then complain that they can't get ahead. If I spent every cent that I'd wasted on consumerist shit, ciggies, drugs and alcohol on investing and savings. I'd be set for life. They'll blame everyone but themselves, then cry about how the world is out to get them.

>>509978289
Good job then anon but I feel the risky assets just staring me down from the other side of this graph. To be honest you've probably just got a good mix of tradfi and BTC and the timing must have been almost perfect. The difference between us is that I only went into BTC back then and you obviously diversified better then myself.
As long as you're not retarded bro lol I trust your judgment now desu. I smell a /biz/raeli and usually /pol/lacks are completely pants on head retarded when it comes to finance but right about everything else.
I was looking at defense stocks the other day. Holy shit lol imagine saying
>I'm actually quite bullish on war in 2025
I can't do it

>just go work at some convenience store owned by rich arabs or indians
Ok, boomer. Contrary to popular boomer lore, they don't love white people more than their own.

>>509978460
>don't spend money on alcohol
>use a cheap dumb phone
>drive a rust heap
>don't buy makeup
How are you going to get married or even have a social life if you don't spend any money on any of this?

>>509978547
Most people here are smarter than me. I just watch YouTube and go with my gut. I went to a shitty business school and got shitty grades. I suck at every job I do. But you've made me feel good about myself with my skeptism. That's a 55% CAGR on the charts but 2024 has brought that down to what I said. I don't know why I couldn't include it. You should dollar cost tiny amounts into sol strategies and semler scientific. Cheers.

>>509970971 (OP)
$15 an hour is 31,000 a year at 40 hours a week. so 62k a year, but functionally 50k because of taxes. sorry companies don't like giving overtime. either you work 2 part time jobs to get 48 or 40 if you're lucky because those companies don't like giving people full time either.

McDonalds offers "healthcare coverage" which is 10 free telehealth visits a year. but it isn't free it's like $15 a week out of your check, so like $1000 a year.

so functionally 49k

2 people on 49k
you will never have enough money to make the 20% down payment. so you're renting, especially in a city. NYC is completely out of the picture because it's like $3500 a month for a 2 bedroom apartment and as high as $6000.
that's 42k so that's basically all your money before bills or even food. forget about nonfood related expenses or "luxuries" like clothing, transportation, or anything else.
guys like Murray are so far removed from reality, they don't take into account taxes, utilities, and food.


most cities are completely out of reach of working and lower middle-class people. cities are basically full of poor people, some middle-class people bound in debt slavery, upper middle class and wealthy people. that's the American city. we've become Latin America in that sense where most of the people are poor, you have a small managerial class running things and the ultra-wealthy.

>>509978858
>>don't spend money on alcohol
Im more meaning don't go out and spend hundreds of dollars on nights out and cocktails. Which is what most broke retards i know do.
>>use a cheap dumb phone
Cheap android phones are just as functional as a thousand dollar phone youre paying off.
>>drive a rust heap
There is a lot of well kept, reliable cars that don't require car loans
>>don't buy makeup
Key word being heaps of. And ill add expensive brands as a modifier. Every broke bitch I know buys super expensive makeup and ten different versions of the same shit.

>>509970971 (OP)
people work 40 hours a week
with no taxes that's 57,600 a year

>>509978204
Oh just saw this. Nice man. I’m rooting for you.

>>509972413
>you have to use deodorant
lmao
sadly I’m certain you’re not even joking
God I hate this website

>>509979258
Thanks brother good luck to you too, you're clearly gonna make it.

>>509973007
maybe that’s a sign you need to take a break

>>509973486
yeah this guy doesn’t understand the impact of Obamacare
best case scenario you’re gonna be working two shitty part-time jobs and getting shitty insurance on the exchange
most people are gonna need YEARS before they get a chance to go full time
sure sometimes you can just be in the right place at the right time but that’s just the exception that proves the rule

>>509973512
You still pay for health insurance dude you just call it taxes

>>509979710
Yeah but then there is some dirty retard who has to stress test the limits of polite society, and they come into work smelling like if the devil put parmesan cheese into his asshole. There's always someone to take things too far. It's why lolbertarians fail. A lolbert will eventually beg for the state and tax etc when someone takes it too far.
I've had smelly cunts in the office with me, and I was glad when they were made to not stink.

>>509973486
They think that if you work at Walgreens then they will give you a 401k and they will match the contributions etc and probably the boss will be there in the delivery room when your son is born

>>509970971 (OP)
30 dollars an hour is barely enough to pay rent in most states now days.

>>509976608
Joint income, you and your partner

>>509973623
Like 45% i do a lot of OT i just hit 125k ytd

>>509970971 (OP)
>includes no tax or expenses
this guy fuckin retarded?

>>509970971 (OP)
when I was 20 I bought a decent-sized house on a Wendy's cashier wage (4.85/hr).

Zoomies really don't know or care what was taken from them.

>>509970971 (OP)
And $0.39 is a perfectly good price for a gallon of gas and for a cheese burger.

>>509971155
fpbp

>>509971259
anyone wanna guess whether Aiden Hunter was on the supposedly non-existent Epstein client list?

>>509970971 (OP)
So now it is to be standard to work over 40 hours a week?

>>509973775
I'm not signing up for the military you faggot

let's see your skills, charles.

it isn't a request.

>>509983799
funny how decades ago they imagined that by 2020, people would be working 10 hours a week. Now we work longer than ever, for less. All the gains of machine labor are accrued to a small group of capital owners, while everyone else is forced to compete against those machines and have their wage driven into the dirt

>>509970971 (OP)
I'd begrudgingly take $12/hour in a low cost of living area if they got rid of all the third worlders

>>509980080
Yeah and unless you're making a hell of a lot more than $15 an hour it's still massively cheaper than a decent US health insurance. Such a low salary would land you somewhere around 20% in taxes.

>>509970971 (OP)
>Murray was born on January 8, 1943, in Newton, Iowa,[13] and raised in a Republican, "Norman Rockwell kind of family" that stressed moral responsibility. He is the son of Frances B. (née Patrick) and Alan B. Murray, an executive for the Maytag Company.
So his dad was an executive
>"Back in 1961, the test helped get me into Harvard from a small Iowa town by giving me a way to show that I could compete with applicants from Exeter and Andover," wrote Murray. "Ever since, I have seen the SAT as the friend of the little guy
He got into harvard with an SAT score of 1429 which is impossible now for non-dindu people. High 1500s give you only a chance to get into harvard i nthe 21st century, even a perfect 1600 doesnt guarantee a spot for white people due to race quotas.
Best part:
>However, in a 2012 op-ed published in The New York Times, Murray argued in favor of removing the SAT's role in college admissions, commenting that the SAT "has become a symbol of new-upper-class privilege

So typical fucking boomer: he got in with lower entry requirements, had a free ride in life, and then when he was older he wanted those opportunities taken away from young people.

>>509970971 (OP)
50 hours a week huh?

>>509970971 (OP)
Boomers made the equivalent of $100+ per hour when you look at CPI.
Fucking kill them all

>>509985980
Murray also never worked a "job" in his 80 years on the planet
>6 years of volunteer work for peace corp after graduating from harvard
>joined a political science think tank in the 1970s
>joined a different think tank in the 1980s and wrote a few articles
>co-wrote some books later in life

>>509986237
In his debates with James Flynn, his arguments were colored by his insistence on Libertarian market theory. Although he argued in favor of racial IQ gaps and for hereditarianism, he was doing so from a market-economy perspective

>>509971155
FPBP, 78k is a fking joke.

>>509970971 (OP)
>$10 an hour is more than enough. just work at the dollar store in the middle of nowhere and then get a second job that doesn't exist so you can work 80 hrs a week making money for mr. shekelstein, you lazy fucking goyim.

>>509970971 (OP)
Those jobs hold full time hour positions tighter than a jew clamps a dime. You're not getting full time without working at least a supervisor position. What a fucking moron.

>>509986509
Yeah he's a smart guy, and an academic. Someone like that could have made millions in the market, and devoted themselves to scientific inquiry instead. A LOT of scientists are in a similar boat. These people are brilliant and could have been excellent if they went into the economy, but voluntarily give that up so they can pursue their inquiry. A lot of them are sensitive types that don't do well in social situations too.

>>509971155
>...Anonymous (ID: lgq6w9AB)
>$12/hr is a Perfectly Good Wage

For low skill workers.

>>509971155
not soon enough

>>509974449
>Millennials ruined this generation
But not those responsible for raising them am i right fellow dumb shit

>>509970971 (OP)
>2 people have to work 50 hours a week each just to scrape by
Anything other than 1 job 50 hours a week to pay for a house and a family is pathetic
>b-but what about muh history you have it so good
My father worked 50 hour weeks, owned a house at 23 in a big city (the exact same house sold 2 years ago for $1,800,000), and had 2 kids by 26 while his first wife didn't work, and owned 2 cars. Working in a factory. We're literally being told to work twice as hard for half as much and be expected to like it, while shitters and wetbacks are taking over everything. Absolutely fuck right off.

>>509970971 (OP)
>48 hour weeks
kek
slave wagies

How much buy in does he have with this system that he lies to protect it

>>509971259
Literally nothing would happen if they release the pedo kike list

>>509970971 (OP)
This implies that you could get 48 hours if you wanted it. Most jobs are part-time these days and this dude thinks Wendy's or Shell Gas Station is going to give you overtime.

>>509970971 (OP)
>Things are perfectly fine bro
Boomers live in a fantasy world. The collapse will be studied hundreds of years from now.

>>509970971 (OP)
he is old and rich he doesnt remember what its like to be poor

>>509970971 (OP)
those jobs don’t offer 48 hours a week, 32 to 38 is average for full time employees, most they can get is 39. Freudian slip on a baby, as in one, singular

>>509970971 (OP)
LMAO, this fucking retard boomer expect me & my wife to 8h 6 days per week, every week every year until I die just to make ends meet?
How about I just fucking straight up kill him instead since the outcome is the same?
I swear to God, we need a global-wide pogrom Boomers

>>509971155
This leaf lives