Is it real or a meme? Do women really want to kill their baby after giving birth?

>there are THOUSANDS of Reddit posts of women casually admitting they want to murder their entire family
Uhhhhhhhhhh...

>>509991752 (OP)
Its real but its entirely predictable. All of the women I know with this issue were terrible drunks and had post wedding blues and depression problems before as well.

It’s also caused by unnatural births like caesarian, epidurals and anaesthetic. Your bodies preggo one day then its not and your pussy says there was no birth. It starts a subconsious mourning. x100 if you don’t breastfeed. Thats why they often reject the baby early on.

>>509992109
What I mean is they were unbearable crazy when drunk in their teens.

>>509991752 (OP)

>>509991752 (OP)
babies are a lot of work and completely unforgiving
some women just can't hack it
they are substandard

>>509992109
An interesting theory

>my baby smiled at me so I want to kill it
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

>>509991752 (OP)
>first moment of accountability of their entire lives
>I can't do it
>(You) must pay!

>>509991950
>>509992239
Why are women such evil animals?

>>509992239
Plebbitor and specially cunts are deranged and inherently evil

>>509991752 (OP)
People like you who post this are subhuman.
Everyone knows that Postpartum Depression is a real medical and psychological issue.
It's not a meme.
You on the other have took your vaccines. You are the meme.

>>509991752 (OP)
What’s crazy, is that if a woman kills her child/baby and cries in court she will likely face zero consequences

>>509992179
You can just stare into the vacuous faces of these feral niglets and see the ugly nigger that knocked her up and peaced out

>>509991752 (OP)
It's a psyop aimed at women pushed in the media and therefore super effective.

>>509992238
>>509992109
It's a few things, I think.
>destroy your brain with SSRIs/birth control (these women are all on pills, even when breastfeeding)
>your ability to love is gone, even your own child
>all you're left with is the labor of parenthood without any of the love that's supposed to make it worth it

>spend your 20s and 30s """""finding yourself""""" (in dicks)
>reluctantly marry a weak man you're not attracted to
>the baby inherits his weak genetics
>it repulses you on a primal level
>kill it like a lot of mammals do

And lastly,
>be whore
>can no longer go out and be whore
>whore mad
>whore does a Casey Anthony

>>509992395
Uh-oh, sounds like someone's getting ready to ACK their kid and blame it on a made-up mental illness. I'm guessing you're in this kind of "relationship?"

>>509992584
don't forget that nearly every modern woman is conditioned to believe that reproducing is evil and low status (muh climate, muh racism, muh patriarchy)

i assume so, i think so i would let them. get pregnant birth kid kill kid action consequence resolution, abortion is skips the consequence period so they do not learn from it. plus i think watching drunks pregnant bitches fight would be a funny mech battle.

>>509991752 (OP)
do you have any fucking idea how much hormonal and physiological mechanisms spin up and down for a pregnancy
it's a fucking miracle and a decent society of decent men and women understand this and support the process
right wing grifters pretend to care while importing indians for wage depression and saying " just stick to family and get on with it lol, what do you think I am - a politician?" or some other idiotic and dishonest shit

>>509991752 (OP)
probably real.
>"shut UP you loud little shit. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP"

>>509992878
>it's normal for women to want to murder their baby for smiling at them
Terminal cuckoldry.

>>509991752 (OP)
It’s real, my ex wife lost her fucking mind after our daughter was born. beat the shit out of me, gaslit me, repeatedly tried to have me institutionalized after months of quite literally threatening to kill me in my sleep. Bitch broke my jaw with a cast iron frying pan. She was a cute quiet weeb before the pregnancy. Shit just flips a switch in some women, could just be the unloading of bodily trauma after nine months of being a living factory, either way, stay safe if you’re trying to have a family.

My wife drinks when she's pregnant and miscarries. I've decided to stop fucking her so I'm not an accessory to murder. Women are basically evil retarded children and I hate them

well goddam

>>509991752 (OP)
my mom killed my older sister 4 months before i was born. my mom lost custody of me when i was 9 for trying to kill me with a kitchen knife. wasn't the first time, just the first time she got caught bcuz i wasn't quick enough to run. i didn't even know i had an older sister until i was in my early 20's. My biological dad (who left when I was 8, and i dont blame him knowing what i know) showed me the legal docs - was ruled a crib death. He was at work.

So idk it was true for me and no one in authority cares. My bio mom is still walking the earth free and has never done jail time despite several provable assaults with evidence towards me, my dad and my bros with deadly weapons (she loved her kitchenware). I'd off her myself but she's old and there's no point.

It's real. You must protect the child from her shit and put her into therapy if it becomes too bad.

>>509992109
Women get a dopamine and oxytocin hit from breastfeeding and childbirth, which is what facilitates pairbonding. Men get this by spending time with women.
In other words - men pairbond with their mate, women pairbond with their offspring. That’s how it’s meant to work.

i wonder what the cause is. do they look at the baby and theyre like:

>"this little spawn is gonna drain everything i have and end me"

so they fly into a defensive rage and off their child?

>>509993032
Sorry anon, but that just sounds like a fucked-up form of regret/resentment to me. If it were truly normal for women to react like this after doing what we were literally designed to do, we wouldn't exist as a species.

Is your kid okay today?

>>509991752 (OP)
It's probably a hormonal thing like 90% of mood swings in women. Their body secretes a bunch of extra hormones during pregnancy that they're not used to. It can also be caused by a deficiency in oxytocin production, that's the hormone responsible for feelings of bonding with the child and the one that makes their tits secrete milk. It's basically the motherly love hormone. Maybe there's a link between mothers that are unable to breastfeed and trying to kill their own child, both could be caused by the lack of oxytocin paired with other pregnancy hormone surges that cause unstable mood. That hormone plays a crucial role in dealing with the overwhelmingly demanding nature of a newborn child so if they don't have it but still feel the effects of other hormones they can go crazy.

>>509992309
women were fine until it became illegal to beat some sense into them

>>509992404
can confirm

>>509993397
Based.

>>509993191
>>509993417
Sorry to hear that. Hope you’re ok now

>>509992298
This. You are High iq. It's just a meme, a lie, they just don't want to be hold accountable for anything

>>509993389
>women need hormones to love their newborn children
thats fucking awful. poor women i didnt know motherhood was such a rough gig

I can't recall the specifics, but there's one species of waterfowl that does crazy shit that. The mother suddenly decides to start abusing one of her ducklings. She torments it until the duckling perishes. It's some fucked up quirk of nature. And the same quirk also exist in humans

>>509993389
yeah that plus just you birthed somthing the size of your head and it was tramatic and now it screams and you still have do deal with life and deal with me lol

>>509993320
Apparently.

>>509993518
LOL

>>509993547
wow that was a good guess by me. #empath

but uh. HAHAHAHA

>>509993191
Wait, your mother killed a child and still had custody of you? Lmao, America, nation of simps

>>509993674
America is whipped

>>509993674
yup, and yup

>>509993521
>I did the thing my entire body and life were designed to do that we've been doing for millions of years
>it was sooooooooo traumatic

>>509991752 (OP)
My wife was giving birth during covid. There were complication so she got caesarean at the last moment (baby started suffocating). Then there were further complications for which baby had to be in hospital for another 2 weeks with 50/50 chances of survival. It was covid so wife was cutted off from support of me and rest of family for all that time. For these 2 weeks she was brave because she had to. However when she and baby came home it all started.

Baby ended up healthy and well, so I was happy as fuck, while my wife was quiet or crying. I told her to fix herself up and she eventually did, because there's no need for useless, whiny, vain, self-centered psycho around the baby.

If my wife was stupid to be unnable for such self-reflection there would be a problem. Lots of women are stupid and because they're educated they don't even know how stupid they are, so potential for trouble is huge.

What I found counterintuitive is that pressure from other people fixes women, despite what feminists say. E.g. you'd think that when there's some self-centered, brainless internet "influencer" who got knocked up by a nigger, baby's has higher probabily for SIDS or shit like that, but no. These bitches will take care of their little monsters because they live in constant pressure.

>>509993483
idk i'm that dog in the house on fire. More or less ok all things considered. Thanks Anon for giving a shit, that's more than any teachers or foster care shitheads did. i learned how useless and phony libtards were at a young age, so there's a bright side.

She came to my high school once and did a melodramatic psycho thing (again, zero legal consequences or even medical instutionalization, fuck this weak country) but the upside is even to this day my old high school buddies got my back when shit gets rough bcuz they know.

>>509993795
surely its both physically and mentally traumatic. don't be foolish. some women can handle it better. dont be a woman hating incel, they smell it on you.

>>509993517
Women are extremely mentally unstable, hormone driven creatures. They're basically at the mercy of their own brain chemistry. I mean we all are to some degree but men can affect their own brain chemistry just by thinking things through. A man can calm down and regain his composure in the most crazy scenarios. Like actively getting shot at. Not women. There's a reason in videos where something crazy happens you only hear women scream hysterically as if that will change anything. They're screaming to get the attention of men who can actually deal with the problem while they revert to fetus state and go into a full blown panic. You can't reason with them using logical statements. There is no "calm down, don't panic and think this through" with women. When they feel the effects of hormones they let the effects take over without putting up a fight. When a man is sad or depressed, he will fight the sadness, try to do something else to take his mind off things, MAYBE let out a few tears and then move the fuck on. Women will put up some sad music and cry for a whole fuckin day while focusing almost 100% on whatever is making them sad.

>>509993883
oh and also Slayer signed my High School Yearbook. I'm glad to have gone through that shit while Heavy Metal was peaking. Can't imagine kids trying to figure shit out to 50's pop music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S18DIcuwoNY

>>509993795
physically weak women can't handle child birth. if the only labor a woman does in her life is giving birth, she'll kvetch about it like a jew

>>509993897
When hundreds of billions of women have handled it like a champ it really can't be that bad. It hurts women to coddle them like this and treat them children. Webm related is how it ends for you.

>>509993962
how depressing. im glad im a man and single.

>>509994016
damn you might be onto something, these farm girls usually pump out a crazy amount of kids.

>>509991752 (OP)
My mom was depressed after she gave birth to me cause my dad was in NY and left her to deal with raising 2 toddlers and a baby all alone for half a year. She also had to go back to her job like 3 months later.

You can make jokes about it or claim she's evil, but none of you will ever understand the pain that a woman goes through not just in labor, but throughout the entire 9 months as well.
Obviously they love their babies but there are moments where they'll look at their creation and realize this has been the source of their physical and mental pain for the better part of the past year. I can see how in a moment of weakness they might impulsively do something horrible.

>>509994075
Modern women are weak as fuck. My wife has blasted 4 babies out of her with no epidural or pain meds at all other than laughing gas. She was raised by communists in the ashes of the Soviet Union.

>>509991752 (OP)
It's real, but it passes.

Strange phenomena for sure.

I think it affects mostly broads with BPD type personalities and similar histerical creatures.

>>509994084
Exactly. Giving birth is not more painful than a hard day's work. On the other hand, your first day of hard work will be one of the most painful things in your life. Also consider that pain signals build the mind/body connection, so people popping NSAIDs are actively severing their physical potential. This is why pain killing is wrong. Use NSAIDs and such as agony slayers only or you're a little bitch.

>>509993795
Men are designed to fight and kill animals and each other for resources and we’ve been doing it for millions of years, yet the weakest of us find it traumatic.

Man gets drunk, falls asleep on couch after Dad dies from cancer 2 days before at age 53; thrown out of home, social services threaten to bar him from seeing his kids.

Woman complains that she wants to kill children; told 'post-natal depression, take these SSRIs and talk to me in a month' by GP.

Yeah, this was my life in 2011 when I was 27, 3 kids one only 4 months old. As with so much else in this world there really is a two-tiered system. Ex-wife turned out to be a lunatic with some sort of personality disorder.

>>509994257
>"take these brain altering chemicals while breast feeding your kids"
behead all doctors

better to abort the unborn kid than deal with post partum depression. hah

DON'T make a baby IF you are not ready to watch it 24/7. Women are psychos. MEN responsibility is to do the hard work like changing diaper, bathing etc etc.

>>509994242
You are dumb as a rock.

>>509994403
'sup rabbi

>>509992357
>Plebbitor and specially cunts are deranged and inherently evil

It's just a mental illness (or more like an episode I guess) triggered by hormones and shit

You calling people evil for it makes you actually evil. Some of them can be evil of course, but that's not directly related

>>509992844
Look at mr money bags over here with his robowaifu in the kitchen making food

>>509994300
Don't I know it anon. I wish they'd prescribed her something a little more likely to kill the bitch in all honesty, she fought me every step even to be able to SEE my kids, then her and her witch of a mother spent undue amounts of time turning them against me (which even the court-appointed social worker who spoke to us both picked up on and referred to in writing as 'parental alienation', an uncommon acknowledgement of this insidious, cruel phenomenon).

In any case at least she didn't kill them, would be better for all if she killed herself though.

>>509994603
+pat
I'm so sorry, Anon. I wish I could make it better, but I can't.

>>509992239
If she s so ashamed, why is she bragging about it on the internet?

>>509993674
bro burger land is FUCKED
it's almost top 1 in child trafficking cases if it's not top 1 already

>>509994702
She doesn't know how to just be happy. Vapid attention is her only respite.

>>509992239
i get it. her body is completely spent birthing this baby girl. baby girl smiles at her the mom and of course she is bitter, she sacrificed much of herself so girl can be born

>>509993191
brutal

>>509993191
Damn…

My mom went apeshit after my little brother was born. 6 months later he was dead, and then my dad had her temporarily institutionalized because she threatened to kill me. She never got any blowback, but I guarantee she suffocated that baby.

>>509993320
Sounds downstream of modern selfishness.

The traditional view would be that the children are going to take everything, and you should give it, because it's what a parent is for. Sorry that you can't be a teenager any more I guess?

>>509995031
Sudden Infant Death is such bullshit.

>>509991752 (OP)
>Do women really want to kill their baby after giving birth?
not just then.
At all times woman lusts after depraved sacrifice to the dark forces of this world and beyond.

>>509994199
I don't buy the "labor is more painful than anything else" assertion. No man has ever experienced it, were taking fucking WOMEN'S word that it's the case. I remember seeing an interview when I was young with a woman who'd gotten her eye gouged out in an accident and said that that was worse than childbirth. Never forgot that.

>>509994570
>Namefag
>Faggot
Checks out

At what point do we cease blaming hormones and start saying 'this is you'? Because the line seems blurry to me.

>>509995235
Indeed. Don't let women insist child birth is a chore. If they get that into their minds, they'll make it as awful for themselves as possible. Same as a nerdy little bitch complaining about how much he hates sweating.

What happens if a woman can't get a C section for whatever reason, and her hips are too narrow, does she explode and baby guts go everywhere?

>>509995167
Why is it never the father who finds these SIDS kids I wonder?

>>509995469
Internal rupture, haemorrhaging, sepsis, then death

>>509992179
Holy shit look at that niglet. You can see it is going to kill somebody before it reaches 18.

>>509995469
she implodes

>>509991752 (OP)
It's just the realisation that they have ruined their lives.

>>509993397

>>509991752 (OP)
Women HATE their children. Long experience has taught me this. Any semblance of decency needs to be beaten into them.

>>509992878
It's been the norm throughout all of human history and women have handled it far better while dealing with far worse living conditions, more stress.
German women are delusional narcissists. Most women are but German women are worse. Lazy fucks on top.
t. actually has a child with a German woman
>>509993547
Yeah, this is where grandma is supposed to come in and take over for a night. Atomized society is shit for raising children. Plus, grandma is probably a selfish retard now, like my mother in law.

Why would you ever want to reproduce when there's a percent chance that your broad wife will want to murder your child after they're born.

>>509992746
This looks like hell. I hope the husband gets some respect and leaves her for a younger girl.

>>509992309
shalom

>>509991752 (OP)
im pretty sure this is 90% caused by modern human social isolation and exclusion

theres epidemiology studies about "magical" outbreaks of 20-30% population suddenly having clinical depression or other severe and disruptive mood disorders like postpartum depression or borderline personality disorder in remote fishing villages that begin to modernize or previous hunter gatherer tribes near logging and mining expansions that start to integrate into modern society

I mean women go through a lot of hormonal changes during pregnancy so it's sure to mess with them but it's probably far more apparent because peoples' hormones are already imbalanced and messed up and social media has indirectly pushed antinatlaist ideas in the mind of the average foid who wants to garner attention from her body. When a woman has only ever established her worth through her body, it's only natural she will resent her children in the early days until she learns the virtues of motherhood.

>>509992179
This is niglet is /pol/ approved

>>509995928
She decided she's a lesbian and left him

>>509991752 (OP)
Jews try to magnify every issue some tard might have so they an infect people with the idea and then profit from the condition.

>>509991752 (OP)
Boys should be predominantly raised by their fathers

>>509995768
>this is where grandma is supposed to come in and take over for a night
This.
There’s something inherently flawed in human females. I’m not going to speculate but grandmothers fill the gap.
Grandmothers by and large don’t exist in the animal kingdom. It’s really only in humans that you see the mothers mother or fathers mother take on parental or child raising roles. Menopause isn’t really a thing for other animals. There’s no use for a woman past child bearing years other than as child care and raising. Modern society has removed the generational role of child parent grandparent.

>>509991752 (OP)
>are women ACTUALLY crazy
yes

>>509996413
>>509995768
>muh grandma
only in (((jew))) desocialized modern societies do physically less able elders take on physical chores
this would be a neighbor, aunt, cousin, neice who all also had children and would reassure the spazzing out mother that everything is fine and would see 10 other female peers raise children fine with no existential fears or anxiety

>>509991752 (OP)
>be woman
>get pregnant
>nonstop attention for 9 months
>baby is born
>nonstop attention shifts to baby
post partum depression is real, they just need to change the name to attention whore syndrome

>>509991752 (OP)
It's real, anon, and can happen to men too. It's basically just a mixture of sleep deprivation, helplessness and struggle to reajust your life circumstances.
Women and men go momentarily insane because they sleep a maximum of 2 hrs a time and have to then tend to a baby that has all sorts of mundane issues like being uncomfortably hot or having gas. However, because it's a baby the issue cannot be solved in 5 minutes so they stay awake for another 2 hrs. But the parent won't be able to fall asleep after that and in a worst case scenario they will have to go to work. There is no break from this tiering routine unless you have family that helps. Which brings us to the issue that this society is not made to let people peacefully raise children because it creates circumstances that makes it a task incompatible with "everyday" life.

>>509992309
Get started on the final blackpill.

It's getting worse nowadays because fucking everyone is on drugs so their hormones and brain chemistry are already all fucked up, then the bitch gets pregnant which dumps more brain- and body-altering chemicals into her system and doesn't stop until months after the baby is born. The human brain, especially the inferior female brain, absolutely can't handle that. It's like pouring a lake's worth of gasoline onto an already raging fire.

>>509997309
women abhor men on a genetic level

>>509991752 (OP)
They have a medical term for every bad female behavior.

>>509991752 (OP)
I am a guy who hates babies and kids and cant even look at babies so yeah i understand women

>>509996672
Your mom hated her mom and you.

>>509994202
The weakest eastern european woman vs the strongest western chad

>>509996413
>There’s something inherently flawed in human females.
It's just their mammal instincts pushed to the limit by population density. Almost all species where the male has the foreign chromosome live in sex segregation because the female can't tolerate their presence.

All women despise men.

>>509994016
OY VEY

>>509997309
I just uploaded this pic into chatgpt and it killed all arguments
You are retarded

>>509995417
My mom described my birth as kind of a "really large poop". She's a country girl, used to physical labor for her entire life. Not even particularly tall or wide-hipped.
Sure, humans are not deer and we are actually underdeveloped as babies compared to other mammals because we literally CAN'T grow any larger inside the womb or the species dies. Look up hyenas.
But if you combine that with the relatively new phenomeon of sedentary life, the picture paints itself.
Childbirth is a strenuous activity. If you're used to it, let alone athletic, it's no biggie. If you're a slob who's also enjoying the tail end of a 9 month extra large hormone ride, you're in for a last sprint of misery.
Which is why physical activity is not only for men.

>>509997998
Naturally, LLMs can argue for or against anything, the thing is, those outputs are just summaries of what I said, not arguments made by the LLM itself.

Why don't you use your own words to argue?

>>509998370
>My mom described my birth as kind of a "really large poop".

>>509997309
>>509997998
>the future is LLMs arguing with themselves with anons as biological proxies
kek

>>509991752 (OP)
I think they get whiplash from being the centre of attention and people doing everything for you because you’re pregnant, lots of time of just you and your husband taking it easy, to BOOM
Your needs barely exist, only the baby’s, you get next to no sleep, you’re worrying all the time if you’re doing things right or not, etc
Actually suddenly having a baby and realising You’re Here Forever hits people like a truck

Lmao all this incel bitterness everywhere? U don't have happy wife's? Gfs? No children who smile and laugh with you with pure innocent joy? Fucking grim, man. So anyway I didn't vax my kid and have like no medical.problems not even been sick for a year. wife loves the baby and also is happy. Also makes time to take care of me cook etc, I'm blessed. But this should also be the norm not living in your demon word where u conjure thoughts and info about everyone being evil all the time

>>509994769
Bingo. Women can't be content. They always look to outside sources for direction, validation, and happiness. It keeps them on a hamster wheel of misery.

>>509991752 (OP)
Non-chad babies.

>>509991752 (OP)
Post partum depression is just women actually experiencing any stress for the first time in their lives

>>509997998
Chatgpt will also tell you niggers are equal to other races... stop and think for a second instead of letting a politically correct chat bot think for you...

>>509998827
this

>>509991752 (OP)
Yes. Suicidal/homicidal thoughts are part of it sometimes but not usually. their hormones completely crash immediately after birth and it causes mental issues for around 8 weeks. And usually some symptoms linger until they are done breastfeeding.
I think it’s exacerbated but social alienation and atomized society. It’s not natural for a woman to sit at home all day caring for an infant by herself. Traditional societies would have much more involvement from the whole family including grandmothers and older female siblings/cousins

>>509998872
>much more involvement from the whole family including grandmothers and older female siblings/cousins
part of this involvement was making sure the pillow doesn't 'accidentally' go on the baby's face

>>509998827
yep, they go from having zero responsibility in life to actually having a DUTY they must fulfill

it is the first time in their lives they understand what being a man has been like since they were born

>>509991752 (OP)
What do you think 'Sudden Infant Death-syndrome' actually is?

>>509996672
lmao, the most jewish thing to do is to tell white people that to hate your parents so much as to deprave them of the time with your children is a normal thing to do , yeah right shlomo , keep up the good work and
>less able elders
retard my 50 y.o. parents can run circles around your fat ass and your fatass retarded parents anytime, if only you had some physical effort in your life maybe you wouldn't be such weak pathetic jew

>>509991752 (OP)
It's a total meme. Notice how no medical or psychological term exists for men who are depressed about being short or losing their hair. Every tiny feeling half a dozen women on this earth experience is recorded and categorized, while no one gives a fuck about actual, real circumstances not affecting the favorite privileged group.

>>509991752 (OP)
>Live life on super ultra easy mode from birth.
>Zero effort to to get sex
>Even if in a relationship, constantly comforted by the ever present knowledge that you can monkey branch in an instant if you want to
>Maybe even enjoyed the attention of being pregnant.
>But now the baby is screaming, and it's sinking in that your days of riding chad's cock whenever you want, are over. Whoever you're with now, is it, women with children can't monkey branch easily.
>Woman brain starts trying to process how best to return to the 'good days' when you could be a slut whenever you wanted, and could at least in your head, have any man you wanted.
>Significantly smaller massed brain unable to generate ideas that are more elaborate than 'kill the baby so I can go back to clubbing'

>>509992746
>Insufferable yearly reviews, brought from the work place, into your love life.
That looks incredibly dystopian.

>Help with business admin
Is she an onlyfans whore, and he's helping her 'business'? Because that saps any sympathy I had for him.

>>509996305
kek

>>509997498
what's the medical term to being a whore ?

>>509991752 (OP)
As a father of three kids let me assure it's actually a thing ...
Only it's "postpartum psychosis"
And it's cumulative...and it never goes away...

>>509998385
>uses LLM to regurgitate his "own" argument
>get called out for using LLMs with a counter argument made by LLM
>"I JUST USED IT TO REPEAT WHAT I SAID, Why don't you use your own words to argue?"
damn what a retarded nigger , how are you still alive ? you should've been aborted , but it's not too late for that anon , KYS

>>509992746
kosher bros, why are the goy shiksa women so cringe?

...did we do this?

>>509991950
Reddit attracts losers because anyone who disagrees with them gets banned. The whole subreddit echo chamber just lends itself to delusional people believing they're in the majority, not hearing any opposing thoughts and spewing hatred. that’s why libtards block anyone who puts them in their place.

Those pics ain't real, it's your world view based on 0.01% mentally ill fags on a meme site.

>>509999999

>>509999169
spending time and making them do parental labor are 2 entirely different things

>>510000000
Wasted as always.

>>509996413
>Grandmothers by and large don’t exist in the animal kingdom
They do among primates, chimp families frequently make use of grandmother care as well.

>>509999699
>regurgitate
Summarize. I used it to make it presentable in a single screencap, Saanvi.
Why does this subject make you so irritated? It's the same thing women have been openly communicating in their online female spaces.

So what's the big deal? Is it not a suitable topic for chYmp mutants? Hm?

>>509999583
It did for my wife. So I guess you shouldn't have stuck it into a chink, memeflaggot.

>>510000182
Go outside.

>>509997309
>>509997419
>needs a machine trained on reddit posts to think for him
you'll never make it

>>510000555
Wash your balls.

>own a dog
>dog is being a stupid cunt
>get angry violent impulse to hit dog
>don't because i love him
>but fuck he's annoying sometimes
congrats, you now understand post partum depression

>>509999434
histrionic

>>509991752 (OP)
>Stacy realizes she now has responsibilities
>kills the kid

>>510000573
It's is beyond amusing how hard you female animals got BTFO by LLMs. Your routine practice of wearing men down with bullshit accusations and crime stat dumps simply can't be a thing anymore because it takes one button to destroy your entire method of operation.

>>509992109
>It’s also caused by unnatural births like caesarian, epidurals and anaesthetic. Your bodies preggo one day then its not and your pussy says there was no birth. It starts a subconsious mourning. x100 if you don’t breastfeed. Thats why they often reject the baby early on.
That's exactly how my csection felt. Our son was breech and the midwife said its rare but she recommended we go to a hospital. I hated it but it was an extreme situation.
The hormones from a natural unmedicated birth are intense. My body had to catch up with the csection. Even milk took longer to come in.
No ppd though. I think that's a myth and likely just shitty moms and a vitamin d deficiency

>>509992109
>>509992584
>>509993253
These are all factors, plus add to that the fact that "nuclear family" is profoundly unnatural. A new mother would have a gaggle of grandmothers, sisters, older mothers, little girls around her both helping her out, teaching her AND keeping an eye on her. It makes a world of difference if your mom and then your sister takes the baby for couple of hours each so you can at least sleep in 4 hour shifts, and then the big booba cousin helps feed the kid too every other day so your bite-marked nips have time to heal. A career woman used to whore out and get drunk stuck in a flat with a crying fussy baby for 24 hours while husband works 2 jobs no fucking wonder she kills it. It's profoundly unnatural.

>>510000619
I already did an hour ago. And I shaved them too so they don't look like German girl's armpit.

They get a lot of attention being pregnant and it all stops, they can't handle this.

It is much the same as what happens to social media influencers or OF whores. They live on attention which eventually wanes causing them to off themselves.

>>509994780
Then she should be happy, not angry like a narcissistic cunt

>>509995929
Shalom what retard, women are animals

>>509991752 (OP)
It only happens to whores who realize they can't be a public onahole anymore.
Promiscuity destroys the mind in a catastrophic manner, and the more worthless someone is the less likely they are to acknowledge their mistakes, specially if they're female.
When she loses her main source of distraction and is forced to bear the reality of her actions, the woman doesn't blame herself for being a worthless retard, but the baby for taking her drug away.

>>509991752 (OP)
>Is it real or a meme?
It's very real.
Though being depressed because your wife is going through significant hormonal changes is very different from "wanting to kill their children"
They are not the same thing. And it works on the way up as well as on the way down.
My wife and I tried a couple times before we had our first child. Her being pregnant, then not, then pregnant again was difficult on both of us - not to mention the loss of the child a couple times. Not everything goes off without a hitch.
Sometimes, the people in the marriage - one, the other or both - are not strong enough to make it work.
I got very lucky. When my wife and I were first married, she said "Where you go, I go"
And she has stuck with me through some very dark shit. Never once eyeballed the door or looked to Better Deal me.
And she has been a good mother to our children - it wasn't always perfect, but better her there than not.
She did indeed go through some significant mood changes, and we had to work through those.
Things are good now.
Don't let this scare you off.

>>509991752 (OP)
>>509992109
>Its real but its entirely predictable
Based noticer.
>>509991950
>there are THOUSANDS of Reddit posts of women
have you stopped to think for a minute what are reddit's demographics representative of? If they are representative of anything at all?

>>509994075
is that the girl from the annual relationship summit webm? did she dump the fag?

>>510001664
You have no clue how many millennial normie females use r*ddit to get advice from jews and marxists

>>509991752 (OP)
Bit of a blackpill conjecture, backed up by nothing but "bro science" conjecture but I think this only happens when a woman marries and procreates with a man they wholeheartedly despise and can't look up to, or if she was a roastie with broken pair bonding chemistry.

Maybe when I have the willpower and time I may do some actual reading on the dopaminergic response to childbirth, not just fucking around like a whore/manwhore.

>>510000103
This.
Certain places attract a certain type of people.
Look at Bluesky. It's a communist shithole full of evil and mentally ill shitbags.
Would I use that shithole as a metric to judge all people? Of course not.
Acknowledging frustration is very different from saying you are going to act on something.
>All people have violent, and even homicidal, impulses.
>For example, it's common to hear people say "I'd like to kill my boss", or "If you do that one more time I'm going to kill you."
>They don't actually mean that they're going to, or even would, kill anyone; they're simply acknowledging anger and frustration.
>All of us suffer from fear and feelings of helplessness and vulnerability.
>Most people can acknowledge feelings of rage, fear, frustration, jealousy, etc. without having to act on them in inappropriate and destructive ways.
>- Dr. Sarah Thompson, MD
There is also a certain type of person who would hear someone say something like that, then dishonestly use it as leverage against either that person, or a group of people, knowing it was simply an acknowledgement of frustration and anger.
Those people should have holes drilled through their knees.

>>509991752 (OP)
>>509991950
What they don't tell you is it solely an issue for mixed race couples, it is the human form of "maternal rejection", the child is simply too genetically distant for the mother to bond with.

>>510002340
hmmmm, another angle to look at, should somehow look into the rate of ppd in mothers of nigger babies

>>509995235
It's up there for sure, though.
>>509995417
The first trimester was worse than labor.
>>509998370
It's not like a poop unless you're pooping a softball. Did she have an epidural? That's cheating.

>>510001174
I went to the beach with a German girl a couple days ago. You could tell her groin was hairy. God, I need a woman.

>>509994075
Women should be property again

>>509998503
Again, country girl.
She's not the most refined of ladies, and I mean that in the best way possible. Great mother.
>>510002735
>Did she have an epidural?
I'd have to ask.

Women who have kids with non Chad men get post partum when the reality hits that they are stuck with a beta for the next 18 years. As pointed out in this thread many just choose to murder their baby instead (SIDS)

>>510001165
>your bite-marked nips have time to heal.
Lol that's not a thing any more than a dick needs to heal from bruising post masturbation.

>>510002844
Do you actually want them as your property, pekka? Think carefully.

>>509991752 (OP)
It's magnesium deficiency that gets depleted during childbirth.

>>509996567
kek

>>509991950
My mom claimed post postpartum depression as an excuse for neglecting and abandoning myself as an infant (and eventually my half brother) later on but the truth is she's full of shit and her lawyer coached her to say that to avoid neglect and abuse charges, she just wanted to fuck some dude named Mike out of spite over my Dad's unsuccessful attempts at adultery, but after reading posts like this and personally witnessing women murder their children for "other" reasons in 95% of cases for decades, I feel like it was almost better that she wanted nothing to do with me but in any case yeah I think if a woman claims postpartum that's fine but then she gets the kid taken away after, is placed onto a public registry and never allowed to care for children again until it's been definitively cured

Woosh as soon as you apply accountability boom suddenly all these postpartum mothers will disappear overnight (SIDS too), but this is how the system works, they excuse women from consequences by affording them a government issued insular shield against any and all forms of accountability under the umbrella of "but muh feelings". Women are children who actively avoid accountability as a survival mechanism, they will rush and viciously protect any structures providing this, the government knows this and uses it to it's full advantage

We can see this showcased clearly by the Reddit screen cap, here they are woefully unaware they are loudly announcing the fact they are actively neglecting a child and at best, are unfit as mothers, but they don't have to be because there's nobody there to help those poor kids. That's the best they've got, and I wish them all the luck in the world, they are going to need it

>>510000391
Nice larp kiddo... enjoying your summer?

>>509995235
I've laid on a gurney for 12 straight hours with enough morphine to induce hallucinations, reason being it was a crush injury and it was not possible to block that pain without anesthesia so they just gave me so much morphine I was out of my fucking mind. Leg still hurt like fuck but I had excellent circulation so it was able to maintain just a trickle of bloodflow and they OK'd me to lay there for so long. If I was fat, i would have lost my leg, triage happened and a severe head injury came in right as I was due for trauma surgery

So I don't do any of this childbirth is the worst pain horseshit at all, I laugh and show them my 52 staple scar, they are just pussy Vietnamese women will give birth right in the field, swaddle the kid up and go straight back rice pickin, been that way for hundreds of years

It's real and understandable if you think about it.
It never happens if the guy is a proper chad that the woman actually likes.
Postpartum is all about women regretting having the child of a non optimal man and therefore wanting to kill the baby.
They know that they'll be spending a shitton of resources and energy on bringing up the child of a man they truly didn't want and dooming their chances of getting a better guy, which from a biological point of view is a shit deal.

>>510006663
>Postpartum is all about women regretting having the child of a non optimal man and therefore wanting to kill the baby.
It's survival instinct, it's understandable but it doesn't change the fact they are grossly unfit mothers who should be allowed anywhere near a child, let alone responsible for the direct supervision and guidance.
>They know that they'll be spending a shitton of resources and energy on bringing up the child of a man they truly didn't want and dooming their chances of getting a better guy, which from a biological point of view is a shit deal.
For women it's a risk v reward situation and some are more fit for evaluation than others. Every seen a retard overestimate his abilities and Darwin his bloodline into extinction before it had a chance to begin because he thought it would be cool to climb a tree and impress the chicks? Women do this too, only they don't climb trees, they try to fuck their way into status.

That's all it is, it's women being too unfit to navigate the challenges of life and Dawrining themselves out of the game, only they are allowed to repeatedly abuse men so they can have a free do over only they never learn anything and just continue to destroy and abuse everywhere they go, usually either ending up bitter and alone, loathing their children or paired up with an equally impressive specimen of the opposite sex

>>509992746
Apparently she decided she was a lesbian and left him btw

>>510000922
Prove you breastfed and show us your tits please ma'am

After my sisters second child she went insane, accused my brother-in-law of everything under the sun (you still have to go to court to disprove bullshit), made an onlyfans (no money of course she’s a fat pig), and now they’re divorced. She’s dead to my entire family and the best thing that she could do for everyone is end her own life so we can have closure and won’t have to worry about her burning down our houses one day.

But she was always a little off. My brother-in-law on some level deserves it for picking such a horrible person to be his wife. Let this be a warning to all: if there is even one hint, one pink flag, that something is off with your GF, do NOT marry her. Do NOT get her pregnant. My brother-in-law is putting his life back together but it’s safe to say he’s ruined after this.

>>510009259
Yeah it really doesn't seem to take much. They pop out a kid or two, ride the "new mom" virtual signal ride until it's not worth the quarter anymore then inevitably browse social media and get algo dunked by some Chad and Stacey couple (hey they just had kids too) and her reptile brain get triggered and that's it, it's GG your not chad, she aint Stacey and she copes by trying to reject the family and start somewhere new

It's a latent survival strategy when they were stuck in tribes with too many betas, soon as they caught wind of available alphas they could just go fuck off to the other tribe and try her luck with the chads there. She's willing to abandon her family to risk the opportunity, but it doesn't work so good when the tribe is the entire planet, but globohomo knows to never ever fuck with women and their accountability insulation structures, so they just compensated by allowing it to be socially acceptable to for women to destroy the livelihood of random men due to stupidity and poor form with 0 consequences

It all works because women think the government is the chad alpha of the tribe, so they compare all men to their established chad reference point which is the Government and that's why they are so fucking retarded, the Government affords them insulation from accountability and the women respond by selecting the government as their designated chad

>>509999434
empowered

>>510007521
this is one of the grimiest shit ive seen

>>509991752 (OP)
>Do women really want to kill their baby after giving birth?
Short answer: yes. Long answer: see pic related.

it's such a big issue they came up with the concept of crib death and pretend these babies just happens to die in their sleep.
the ones who get sentenced are retards who don't know about this usually drown their baby and they just have to be charged with a crime.

>>509991752 (OP)
When you country has the highest post partum mortality rates for women and children in the developed world, that might happen.

>>509991752 (OP)
Father of 3 here. Yes it's real, and it doesn't manifest the same way every time. Child growth, birth, milk production, etc, the body's chemistry and hormones are basically in overdrive and also in a fucking turbo blender.

Intrusive thoughts, depression, body image, the feeling of emptiness after birth, having to breastfeed; no part of it is easy and just like sex, it's not all glamorous and awesome. It's hard, stressful, time-consuming, and takes pieces from you, but that is the cost of making new life.

Mutual sacrifice and support is how you get through it all and come out the other end together.

birth control fucks oxytocin i assume its women who are either permanently fucked from birth ctronl or didnt spend enough time off it before getting pregnant

>>509992109
You’re actually a fucking retard. My wife never drinks, had a fully natural birth, exclusively breastfeeds and had a horrible case of PPD. Faggots on here who never even smelled a pussy before trying to talk about women is hilarious, especially pregnancy, children, and everything that comes with it. PPD is caused by a massive hormone dump that happens post birth, even with a c-section or not.

>>510010484
This guy has kids.

>>509991752 (OP)
They are just possessed by satan and other evil shit due to lack of beating, one of the biggest psyops that jews pulled are making men believing women are equal to them, in reality, women kept unchecked will always end up into some witch satanic rituals
t. the cute wholesome fox lady that acked herself

>>510007521
let's hope she can get into a nice abusive lesbian relationship

>>509996376
Say what you want about this guy but he is based. That's how you make sure children grow up in a good way. Outlawing child beating was one of the factor that let us into this mess

>>509992746
>>510007521
>>509994075
OH NO NO NO hahahaha, you can do all sort of stupid ritual for a girl yet she's gonna end up like that
I swear I saw that face before, lmaooo

>>510003045
Women’s nips and breasts are extra sensitive when lactating. So yeah, constants suckling can be painful for the woman.

>>509991752 (OP)
Women will do ANYTHING for atttention. Postpartum depression is fucking bullshit. Women do not experience true depression like men do.
Women live life on easy mode even the ugly ones. Don't even fucking try to say they have it harder than men. By not a single metric do they have it harder than men. They have more rights. The law is on their side. Men have to worry about alimony and divorce rape.
Women who get raped are most often than not asking for it because they CHOOSE to go to places where it happens. If you were a fucking woman, would you make the same mistakes as them?
Seriously, women get enough passes on everything. Don't give them another, they don't need it. And even if you simp, they won't fuck you. Stop being a fucking orbiter cuck.

>>510010220
this, we are not talking about your average hoe, that's literally the night mare for any man who wants to have a family, the woman will flip and become this or troon your kid
picrel is probably the guy right now lol

>>510012161
>A FUCKING LEAF

Opinion immediately discarded, and likely indian

>>509992109
Rates of PPD are vastly lower in cultures with a whole specific support system and recovery time for post partum, they also have much lower rates of post partum complications and maternal death. Also the stress of being forced to return to work imminently is a problem almost no other moms in the world would have to deal with. The inability to adapt to baby or sustain breastfeeding as a result of our country having moms sometines back on the clock literal days after birth is also absolutely related to our ridiculously bad maternal health outcomes & high rates of maternal mental illness.

Docs here will say it's basically random and all hormonal, so there is no one to blame (aka no one has to take responsbility and step up to the plate), but lifestyle/stress before and support after (or lack of it) explains most PPD here just by contrasting us with the rest of the world. Telling mom dad or family that they do bear responsibility and it was avoidable through different actions is unpalatable though, AND unprofitable, as the current fix is getting mom onto years of expensive prescription drugs. We are a very sick society and particularly hateful towards the whole`process of family `formation & rearing

there is nothing more destructive to a woman's body and mind than giving birth
they're so flooded with hormones during and after pregnancy that they're basically a different person, and could easily be qualified as mentally retarded
i don't blame women for what they do postpartum because they can't be held responsible

>>509992309
They're describing moments of severe temporary mental illness, not their normal thoughts or normal perspective

>>509993038
Should have picked better, how did you not see the red flags before marrying her and knocking her up?

>>510007521
Fucking lol. The dude put up with all of her quirky shit for god knows how many years, even put a fucking ring on it but oop she feels kinda gay now so bye bye

It's never enough.

>>509993517
The same hormonal process happens for men too when bonding with their kid dumbass, it's just activated more in response to activity by the father (picking baby up, caring for baby) instead of a big part of the process being frontloaded automatically like in mom (through childbirth and then nursing)

>>510012813
>They're describing moments of severe temporary mental illness
as opposed to their regular, permanent mental illness

SIDS is 100% mothers killing their own babies. It's why never once after the development of security cameras has a single SIDS been recorded.

I worked in the power plant at a hospital and when chatting with the mean old senior nurse that bullied young cute nurses with blonde ponytails until they turn into mean old nurses, she said that every case of SIDS was moms killing their own kids. And I'd trust her with any medical wisdom no matter how insane it sounds.

>>509995768
You're forgetting that there were ancient traditions in place in every culture to handle this period and it involved multiple extended family members directly and personally helping for multiple weeks. A lot of cultures the ONLY thing mom is even allowed to do is nurse and snuggle the baby, with extended family handling every other thing in her life for ~40 days. Tradition dictates specific nourishing foods they know help mothers heal, limit physical activity severely (internal stress from healing wounds can manifest as psychological distress and instability), or don't even have them leave go out anywhere at all (forcefully minimizing exposure to the chaotic outer society). There is extreme concern over the new mother, older societies perfectly understood this was a difficult time where everything needed to work for maximum recovery of the mother.

Still even with these precautions in place (that our modern wageslavery societies have abandoned) they had high death rates. Infertile retards on /pol/ who don't have children and never will just cannot grasp the seriousness of new life coming into the world, new life is very close to the veil of death and comes forth in blood. Reality isn't the marketabkle Gerber baby ad

It lasted like five hours for my sister in the hospital room and she did not want to kill the baby just did not want to look at it

>>509998370
She's describing it accurately in simple terms, Im sure your mom doesnt want to as painstakingly as possible describe every detailed sensation

When baby moves down they take up the entire space, flattening out the rectum, effective pushing is the same 'direction' of pushing as when you poop, not urination, so it can both feel like you're pooping yourself and during labor it's common to actually poop, there's just no space left as the kid's head descends

>>510010484
>Yes it's real, and it doesn't manifest the same way every time
I don't buy this. It is an emergency (for the CHILD not the mother) which places the safety of the child (not the mother) into immediate and critical danger. My mother refused to change my diaper and I would run around all day covered in shit while she sat on the couch and did fucking nothing, would refuse to feed me, and got away with it by calming depression then immediately running off after and fucking some guy

Why the fuck are they allowed to do this with no consequences? Where was the oversight here. Regardless of whether it's real or not, women are using to systematically abuse children with 0 consequences in blatant plain view so I really feel like postpardum needs to be treated by default as a child abuse investigation case, and the women will have to think before they claim random bullshit to get out of child abuse allegations

Like if im a drug addict that's shitty and a disease and all that but i'm still not allowed to get high beat my kids and go "oh but I was high tho"

Women are allowed to do this and much much worse by simply saying "but I was depressed tho" and i'm tired acting like it isn't the exact same shit. Women claiming post partdum should immediately be thoroughly investigated for child abuse, simple as.

>>510011928
Not in front of the others! What a proper way to turn boys into doormats and pushovers, smack them in front of some laughing nigger.

>>510012606
This just doesn't work anymore kid, go home you smell like shit

>>509991752 (OP)
Postpartum is real, murderous thoughts are from the SSRIs and birth control mixing with the already turbulent hormones.

>>509991752 (OP)
Wish both of our mothers decided to

>>509991752 (OP)
Probably connected to the sense women have that committing to a man ends the fun and excessive privilege of their previous life. It's not unjustified, being a pretty single girl in the West is as good as it gets. They don't even have to be that pretty. No one is nearly as well insulated and protected and fully not expected to acknowledge that.

It’s real. Newborns are just an enormous amount of stress and people don’t always handle it well, especially if they work or feel alone.

I know you guys are all about shitting on women here, and I get the reasoning, but being a mother is actually not easy and it’s arguably harder today than it’s ever been. People used to live in big families with supportive grandparents, aunts, uncles, lots of cousins, other children maybe that could help, neighbors, church congregations. There was a massive network of support if you really needed it. Now, it’s basically just the mom. If she’s really lucky she has a husband that chips in when he’s not working and her mother helps but also imposes a burden because these boomer grandparents are psychos who want to lord their success over their kids and tell them what to do 24/7. So it’s not easy being a mother today, and the pressure they feel particularly with the first one is enormous.

Nobody ever talks about this. Everybody talks about how young women want to kill their fetuses and that’s horrible, but nobody ever talks about how one of the reasons they want to do that is because they’re terrified of going at it alone and they feel like they’ll go at it alone because that big family-friend-community network has completely collapsed.

>>510013339
>Reality isn't the marketabkle Gerber baby ad
Actually in most cases it's not nearly as dramatic as your making it out to be. Women are biologically designed to give birth, ummk. Literally 1 fuckin purpose. They are good at it, and the ones that aren't are just shit luck of the draw from nature. Quit acting like they perform form universe shattering miracle, there are millions of women who have given birth to a dozen or so children over the years, yes it's difficult but for fuck sake stop with this simping nonsense

They'd better figure out how to raise a fucking child else their species goes extinct. This is a minimum requirement, not a maximum over achievement, fuck sake

>>510000231
>>509996413
also elephants
probably dolphins too

>>509991950
Those intrusive thoughts are straight up schizophrenia.

>>510014441
>they want to do that is because they’re terrified of going at it alone and they feel like they’ll go at it alone because that big family-friend-community network has completely collapsed
>I am so much more precious and important than another human life I have brought into this world through my own decision making and I should have the right extinguish this life at will because I got scared or something, idk lol

That's you, that's what you're enabling. If they can't figure out how to fucking do it on their own free will, perhaps another 2,000 years of Sharia law might sort them out

>>510014441
100% this

now add in rollercoaster hormones because the woman's body goes from supporting a second life inside to outside, and you end up with these women who absolutely lose it.

>>510014687
>applying logic to a woman
fucking retard incel, there is no logic, go back and read >>509993962

>>510002211
>There is also a certain type of person who would hear someone say something like that, then dishonestly use it as leverage against either that person, or a group of people, knowing it was simply an acknowledgement of frustration and anger.
That's pretty much all leftoids.

>>510014813
>fucking retard incel,
You just want to sperg mald at me because you either can't help yourself or you're a fuckin roastie and too retarded to understand context

>Swing and a miss there chudmeat, try again

>>510010484
Mother of four here and can agree somewhat- I think the 'hormone soup' explanation explains some cases, but that the majority of PPD we see in the western post-industrial world is essentially environmentally caused (this includes the base physical environment and the broader familial, social, and cultural environment).

>>509991752 (OP)
a meme, some of them want to kill their babies because it represents a responsablity they never had. most women in the workforce do not actually work, as exampled in many of those vapid women videos.

>>509991950
Wow, that poor woman. Sounds like textbook case of demonic possession. Those weren't her real feelings; they were the demon's feelings being superimposed over her own.
>"Do it! Kill your baby! It's so annoying, isn't it? And your husband-he did this to you! He barely helps! Kill him and then kill yourself, too! Hee hee hee!"
People need to exorcise themselves at least once a year.

>>510015028
what roastie would admit to her own insanity?
I can tell you spend no time with women because you keep trying to apply autistic amounts of logic to them. Women DO NOT have logic, most especially post partum (aka under stress.)

>>509995928
she divorced him after she decided she was a lesbian and then he killed himself
she took no accountability in his suicide, and in fact said it was not her fault.

>>509998370
My mom described my birth as kind of a "really large poop".
yeah, I also heard this comparison by many elder women. It's apparently a little like constipation

>>510000128

>>510000000

>>510007521
Who sets up their phone, records themselves crying, then posts it online? A manipulative psychopath preying on your empathy, that's who.

>>509998385
https://ctxt.io/2/AAB4rzB5EA

>>509992309
Eve

>>510014486
I've given birth four times, it has gone pretty well each time (much easier for me overall than for other mothers I know). It is precisely because Ive had this raw experience, and normative/good outcomes with it, that I understand how fraught it actually is. Ancient society across the entire world understood too. It's really retarded to be a right winger and just decide to ignore this body of tradition or cultural wisdom, it's supremely modern, and it seems the motivation behind the sentiment here is just disliking women and a refusal to recognize that having kids is actually a serious endeavor. It's a strange thing to do mentally if you also want to affirm having children as necessary for society, even stranger to think these ways if you ever want children yourself

>>509997419
That data isn't very convincing to the argument "women abhor men on a genetic level".
>male toddlers 50-65% of victims
>possibly just 50%
so no bias, just random.
>in cultures with son-preference, females are majority of victims, proving environment can override biology
Based on this, I don't think it is biology. It's environment. Our culture shits on men, so it's males that get abused the most often.

>>509991752 (OP)
Im one of 8 brothers, oldest to youngest just 18 years apart. my mom never complained once. honestly weak women don't get shit on enough

>>509991752 (OP)
Probably because the baby is ugly they realize they spawn another subpar humanoid and are thus depressed. I bet this doesn't happen to pretty women or women who get impregnated by Chad.

>>509991752 (OP)
during covid lockdowns, when dads were forced to work from home, SIDS deaths saw a sharp decline that baffled researchers
even more baffling was SIDS deaths among single mothers saw no change in occurance

>>510000319
>Why does this subject make you so irritated?
This manner of speech fills me with the urge to commit violence. You sound like a redditor cunt.

Test

>>510005350
>half brother

>>510003045
You're really retarded, why do you think products like Lansinoh exist, for fun? Oh you havent heard of them because you have no kids, no wife, and likely aren't even close to a single reproductive family unit. If you have any friends irl theyre likely all equally non reproductive men.

Cracking, bleeding, painful nipples when first breastfeeding are extremely common.

>>509993032
>has sex one time
>lump grows in belly
>poop out lump

OH THE HUMANITY SUCH UNBEARABLE TRAUMA

>>509991752 (OP)
Post-pussy depression is fake and gay

>>510016625
Women are basically children and need to be monitored in the same way or else they'll start to torture things smaller than they are.
I think everyone goes through this phase and it's important to nip it in the bud when it arises.

>>510016481
>I, as a child, never heard my mom complain
>This means she had no difficulties and never complained
Your mom was a good mom, and you're a retarded son
What decent mom is going to bitch about any post partum incontinence or other issues to her KIDS?

>>510017559
You'd have to get or have one to assume that

>>510013319
I used to do coroner work and worked as a pathologist for a few years before changing specialties.

SIDS is probably 10-20% real stuff that doesn't show up on autopsy like seizures and cardiac arrythmias.

60-70% is accidental negligence like fat mothers accidentally smothering their kid or incorrect swaddling leading to suffocation. Human infants are incredibly poorly optimized creatures when you look at their inability to even lift their heads for the first few months.

The remainder is probably infanticide with various degrees of impulsivity. I don't think most are planned out but a lot of them have incredibly unlikely stories. The one that stands out to me is a child who clearly died of hypothermia while the mother was "driving around so he'd stop crying". My bet is she was driving with an uncovered infant in the car seat with the windows down in a Canadian early March.

No one bats an eye when a hamster or dog eats their own baby, we're just mammals at the end of the day. The human mind breaks in predictable ways along paths of least resistance, it's why we have a finite number of mental illnesses despite the brain being the most complex natually occuring object we know of

>>510017587
oh she complained plenty just not about being a mom. she loved raising children and sees us as her greatest accomplishment

>>510000319
Just use your own words and don't be an invalid

>>509993962
We really need to replace women. Society isnt going to advance much further if we are saddled with these retards for the rest of existence. Its a miracle we made it as far as we did.

>>510015177
>most especially post partum (aka under stress.)
I think it's time men create a new disease called "I cant deal with this fucking retarded shit anymore" syndrome where we invent a bunch of nebulous symptoms and never actually define it to completion so anytime a man needs a break or has tricky questions with CPS he can just pull the ICDWTFSA card and add a new symptom to legitimize his grievances. If anyone makes any complaints, he refuses to care for their children, throws a spiteful hissyfit, makes unfounded accusations in court, divorce his wife and finally masturbates in a furious state of victim hood like "Ohh gorsh dang it that pesky syndrome again", take six months off work and file a class action lawsuit if you ask too many questions about it and viciously lash out at any women drawing a basic logical conclusion of "humm, smells like a pile of fucking dogshit to me but hey im no expert"

Seems ridiculous I know, but this is what women do to shirk accountability

>>510001743
yes, and he later killed himself. Im not joking. Ex-husband of quirk chungus is dead.

>>510019572
source

Why did God create women

>>510016284
>It is precisely because Ive had this raw experience, and normative/good outcomes with it, that I understand how fraught it actually is
You've been privy to the safest time to give birth in the history of all of humanity. Prior to doctors, most societies worth studying understood that a woman undergoing child birth was akin to a man in the heat of battle, a mother was cherished as a valued warrior and precious member of society. With access to modern medicine, it is highly inappropriate for modern women to appropriate the struggles women of prior generations endured. The women of today are nothing compared to the women of yesterday, they have no right whatsoever to point at Grandma and claim their struggles are the same.

>and it seems the motivation behind the sentiment here is just disliking women
No, it's drawing attention to the very poor behaviors and quality of modern women and loudly voicing grievances. When the retard is told he is a retard, he thinks everyone hates him. The truth is, he's just a retard. It's a him problem, not an everyone else problem. The women now are just shit, and the men have had enough. It's that simple. I don't hate sunshine, it's just there are times when it is objectively way too fucking hot and if you don't believe me, well you can do so sitting in it and we'll see how long you last.

>>510020525
that post wasn't appropriating the struggles of previous generations, the post even owned up to saying she had it easy. it was pointing out that modern society is a psychological meatgrinder and it affects the process of childbirth and the period immediately after, and that we ignore this in favor of saying "women dumb" at our own risk, similar to how men check out of society after being shit on constantly in employment and education.

most of your post wasn't even relevant. you seem like you're in a rush to air your own grievances instead of thinking an argument through.

>>510020459
Unironically so we could nut without Lilith raping us in our sleep.

>>509991950
Jesus Christ, literal overgrown children..

>>510020525
You could say the same thing about men, couldn't you?

>>509997009
This anon gets it. My wife was young (19), healthy, had never been on SSRIs or hormonal BC, and isn't a massive attention whore, yet she still encountered this problem. It never manifested as "omg, I'm gonna kill my baby," but breakdowns were extremely common for a bit.

When I went back to work, things got worse since she insisted on being the one who got up in the middle of the night so I'd be able to provide for the family. There were plenty of times where I'd come home from work and switch to caring for my child while she "took a nap." She'd end up passing out for hours due to exhaustion.

Once we spoke to each of our parents about it, they immediately rushed here and took turns caring for their grandkid so that my wife could start getting regular sleep again. Between the quality sleep and our parents telling us we didn't need to freak out over every odd sound, things got much better.

We went on to tell our friends who were either expecting a child soon or planned on having one and set up a little support network amongst ourselves to help each other out. Between that and help from parents and in-laws, everything was pretty smooth sailing for them.

We're on our fifth kid now and the little "village" we put together to help each other has worked wonders.

>>510020121
I didnt save the image but some anon was posting reddit screencaps in another thread. If you do some googling you should find it.

>>510021679
>fifth kid
How was her morning sickness each pregnancy?

>>510021035
>that post wasn't appropriating the struggles of previous generations, the post even owned up to saying she had it easy.
She first alluded to ancient societies, then moved on to calming she knew what it was like. I'm not sure I agree, I don't think it's appropriate for her to imply she knew what it was like, they shared a birth experience which is noble and I will not attempt to remove this, but she has the option of a pain minimized cesscerain. This was not the same as a peasant woman giving birth in a dirty barn in the dead of winter, not will it ever be.
>most of your post wasn't even relevant
It is, you're just having trouble finding it or simping
>you seem like you're in a rush to air your own grievances instead of thinking an argument through.
At this point the situation has deteriorated to the point where any sane reasonable red blooded man can shit and scream all over the wall about basically any subject regarding women and there is a strong chance he is not wrong. They have nowhere to go but up, they are literally so close to rock bottom, they are in serious danger of being replaced by free AI subscriptions and $40 chunks of silicone

If you don't have grievances about women to air, you're either a simp or a retard, and don't you fucking try to patronize me for doing it here, this is the shitting hole. This is where you go to shit. Leave me to shit in peace.

>>509991752 (OP)
Cant be that bad otherwise the species wouldnt be around

>>510022119
>How was her morning sickness each pregnancy?

First time was relatively normal, according to our GP and her OB. Second one seemed worse but we were also in the middle of settling into a new home during the majority of it, so we chalked it up to that. Third time, though? Severe as fuck. That's when she had the twins, which apparently can lead to morning sickness being more intense than normal. The latest one was between the first and second but her OB had warned us that it could get as bad as the previous pregnancy. Apparently you're more at risk to have that severe grade of morning sickness if it's already happened before.

>>510022306
>She first alluded to ancient societies, then moved on to calming she knew what it was like.
she claimed that there was a much stronger familial structure prior to (((modernity))) atomizing us to pieces. you're ignoring context to continue on a presumption. that's why i say it comes of like you're looking for an excuse to complain. she specifically said she has had it comparatively easy. the reference to antiquity was to show what cultural wisdom and support in child rearing has been eroded: the answer is a lot and you don't need to be a simp to agree with something so obvious

>>510022910
Well no see the problem is before is women behaved this way they would lose access to a male and would likely wouldn't last the week and they knew it so they had to be very strategic about monkey branching and child rearing

Now, the state will prop up their unfit asses to ensure their survival (at the disproportionate cost of men) so now they devolved that evolutionary trait and now longer have the capacity to produce a strategy conducive to long term survival and our species will collapse into the mouse utopia as the vapid witches cackle away on tiktok for Reddit stickers or whatever they give out now,

This is exactly what I would a expect from any species in the midst of an extinction event. It's the fucking mouse utopia.

Leaving this here...

>>510023328
Thanks, my wife has had it really bad twice now.
I don't think she'll go for #3 :-(

>>510007521
imagine filling out an annual partner summit module just for that to happen lmao

>>509991752 (OP)
Woman these days are soul sucking whores.
They project what they are onto their children.

>>510014687
They can’t do it. Never have been able to. Unironically it takes a village. Community is essential.

>>509993011
no, of course not, I just take issue with the absolutely idiotic and delusion assertion OP makes in the first place that it might be normal
it's a stupid 1pbtid bait thread and this shithole will never get better until these low effort threads are banned on sight with the IP behind it being banned and the pass being invalidated if it happens x number of times per week ir sth
but this site is run by shills, foreign glowoe subversives and incompetent niggers eeking out a 2k$/mo. subsistence and there is no community to this shit site anymore so nobody will cone forth to develop better mod and admin tools or even have a coherent enough part of the "communit" to care and pull it off

>>509995768
if this is what you honestly think of women - you honestly deserve worse
crying shame for the child it has such an immature and arrogant father that seemingly found a matching mother

>>509994199
>but anon, common sense and human empathy is le cucked and le bluepilled
based post and why would you not consider mothers as latent subhumans? reddit tranny twitter bluesky much, faggot?
stupid niggers and their delusional takes lmao
hope your father managed to change arrangements and be there more and wishing you and your mom well

>>510015115
The only sane reply in this shit thread.

>>510013880
a little embarassment never hurt anyone especially at a young age

>>509991752 (OP)
It’s a western thing, in a real society the woman has her mother/sister/cousins supporting her but American and western euro retards are anti family so the woman feels alone

>>509991752 (OP)
>Do women really want to kill their baby after giving birth?
White women do.
>Is it real or a meme?
Like many things it is a modern western desiese. It was never the norm in history beyond vestigial cases, only exists now because white sluts are arrogant and have license to do whatever they want without consequence and it will end soon because its against the natural order.

>>509991752 (OP)
Actual postpartum depression is real but rare where the hormonal clusterfuck of pregnancy and delivery doesn't resolve properly at the right time. Like autism, ADHD, and other mental issues, it's grossly overdiagnosed and many women are simply garbage to begin with and use it as an excuse to be horrible instead of decent mothers.

>>510024402
Phoneposting is cancerous

>>509994199 #
>"but anon, common sense and human empathy is le cucked and le bluepilled and why would you not consider mothers as latent subhumans? reddit tranny twitter bluesky much, faggot? "
based and true assertion on your part
stupid groyperniggers and their delusional takes on women and life lmao
hope your father managed to change arrangements and be there more and wishing you and your mom well

>>510023419
>you're ignoring context
No, u
>that's why i say it comes of like you're looking for an excuse to complain
You say this because you're either a simp or a fucking woman. If you have dated a woman under 30 in the last 10 years, you'd know exactly what i'm talking about. Of course i'm looking to complain doofus, I fuck women regularly. Any man who does has a grievance.
>the reference to antiquity was to show what cultural wisdom and support in child rearing has been eroded: the answer is a lot and you don't need to be a simp to agree with something so obvious
First of all, I respond to whatever the fuck I want for whatever the fuck reason I want, if you don't want to engage with it, don't respond, but trying to tell me what I should think, and third of all, I don't really give a fuck what fuckin excuse women have for this dogshit, they are seriously fucking up the early childhood of young children and I flat out REFUSE to hand them any fucking freebie excuses to hand wave it all away as some bullshit about muh depressions or hormones, give a fuck. Raise the kid or you don't get any kids, ever. That. Fuckin. Simple.

My god could you imagine letting your child starve and scream in front of you because you "had a bad day" Give me a fucking break, sterilizer them or take the damn kids away but fuck this nonsense about enabling it

>>509991752 (OP)
sounds like something white women made up to excuse being bad mothers

>>510024735
>You say this because you're either a simp or a fucking woman. If you have dated a woman under 30 in the last 10 years, you'd know exactly what i'm talking about. Of course i'm looking to complain doofus, I fuck women regularly. Any man who does has a grievance.
i've been married for 10 years to the first woman i dated. serial monogamy is bad for you.
>First of all, I respond to whatever the fuck I want for whatever the fuck reason I want, if you don't want to engage with it, don't respond, but trying to tell me what I should think
you are genuinely illiterate. i wasn't telling you what to think. i said that agreeing with the incredibly benign and obvious assertion that our society has made childbirth harder for women in a lot of ways psychologically is extremely obvious, and that i agreed with that womans point that it is really stupid to ignore the ways that we destroyed older cultural wisdom about childbirth, childcare and family structure. i was pointing out that agreeing with that doesn't make someone a "simp".
>I don't really give a fuck what fuckin excuse women have for this dogshit, they are seriously fucking up the early childhood of young children and I flat out REFUSE to hand them any fucking freebie excuses to hand wave it all away as some bullshit about muh depressions or hormones, give a fuck. Raise the kid or you don't get any kids, ever. That. Fuckin. Simple. My god could you imagine letting your child starve and scream in front of you because you "had a bad day" Give me a fucking break, sterilizer them or take the damn kids away but fuck this nonsense about enabling it
okay, i see now that you're mainly interested in talking about your own experience with your mom. get a shrink or something, you have a psychotic habit of intentionally misrepresenting people so you can be angry at them. like when you went off the handle (incorrectly) assuming the original 4 kids post was trying to say she had it as hard as a pre-industrial mom.

>>509992239
women are inherently evil

Is there even one example in history of a father getting jealous of his son and trying to sabotage him? Because I've had 2 GFs that have had that issue with their own moms and women post that sort of shit online ALL the time.

>"No daughter, don't cuddle him, he was my daddy before he was your daddy!!"

>>510025943
>Is there even one example in history of a father getting jealous of his son and trying to sabotage him
i see you don't have very much experience with boomer dads.

>>509992844
haha

>>509998551
LMAO and Grim at the same time

>>510025392
>i've been married for 10 years to the first woman i dated
Bullshit, type like a man
>you are genuinely illiterate
don't need to be to post here champ,
>i agreed with that womans point that it is really stupid to ignore the ways that we destroyed older cultural wisdom about childbirth, childcare and family structure. i was pointing out that agreeing with that doesn't make someone a "simp".
Okay I agree with you on this. You're right, there's no reason for me not to agree with it, I can't argue that
>okay, i see now that you're mainly interested in talking about your own experience with your mom.
that's part of it, yeah
>get a shrink or something, you have a psychotic habit of intentionally misrepresenting people so you can be angry at them
Sure, sometimes i'm guilty of that. You kind of have to be to get noticed here, what the fuck were you expecting rational discourse? You're probably a bot or a FED.
Anyways, quit ignoring my point
>Stop allowing women to use Postpartum as a shield against shit mothering and any situation where this is claimed, an investigation should take place which assumes the child is in immediate danger
> like when you went off the handle
You need to lurk here a lot more before you poast
>(incorrectly) assuming
A broken clock is right twice a day. That means all I have to do is post more than you and my score will be higher by default. Hah there you lose.

Anyways I don't mean to come off as genuinely hurtful but dammit, protect the kids

>>509997309
None of this accounts for the invasive feminist state with divorce rape and family courts that enslave men for the whims of a fucking female that bleeds and changes everything she believes in because some of some chad celebrity's insta post. Anon, they cut their sons dick off and rip off the breasts of their daughters because it's the Current Thing™. Women are not fit to lead the family unit or control any major decisions regarding it. At all.

Nothing in that post is of substance because you aren't accounting for how castrated men in feminist countries are since post-WW2. None of that shit applies to normal countries without feminist garbage. If it's truly inherent, where are these trends in Afghanistan or Iraq?

>>509997309
>>509997419
>women inherently hate men
This is a psy-op.

>>510026260
>Bullshit, type like a man
>i measure masculinity by 4chan posts
pathetic
>i don't have to be literate
pathetic, learn to read and infer context
>Okay I agree with you on this. You're right, there's no reason for me not to agree with it, I can't argue that
no one is stopping you from disagreeing. you made an assertion and i disagreed with it. you passionately took it as an affront as if i was demanding you think like me instead of just having a conversation.
>what the fuck were you expecting rational discourse?
not from you, anymore.
>ignoring my point
you don't have one. i jumped in the conversation to point out that you misconstrued that womans point in order to be angry at her, which you measurably did. you aren't even denying it.
>Anyways I don't mean to come off as genuinely hurtful but dammit, protect the kids
weird cause you sound like the exact kind of dude who hits his kids.
>"dad, we're out of toilet paper"
>"WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME HOW TO SHOP NOW, YOU'RE SAYING I CAN'T RUN A HOUSEHOLD? BELT TIME, TIMMY"
>lurk here a lot more
i've been one 4chan since 2007 and every day i ask myself why i get into conversations with indians who have severe mommy anger issues.

>>510001165
This. And the source of all problems: JEWS

>>510026538
>>510026759
No jewish involvement with feminism pre 20th century. Why did it work anyway? Why does it just right for women to be against men?
>If it's truly inherent, where are these trends in Afghanistan or Iraq?
Crushed under boots, currently. As soon as the boots are lifted off their neck, they will utilize EVERYTHING against their men, as they always do.

You can keep blaming jews, get rid of them even, but it won't take much for the next special interest group to blow up your women's mammal coded genetically wired misandry to use them as a weapon against you.

>>509991752 (OP)
Women resent their children for not being Chad's baby. They subconsciously undermine them right up to the point of harming or killing them. Newly pregnant women will sometimes experience an actual miscarriage if a more dominant male moves into their social environment. If you had issues with your mother growing up, it's not so much you as it is that she really just didn't love your father.

>>510007521

>>510001165
This. Good post.

>>510000922
>pretending to be a women on 4chan for Yous
pathetic and sad larp

>>510026789
>no one is stopping you from disagreeing. you made an assertion and i disagreed with it.
Okay now you're just confusing your own bait
>i jumped in the conversation to point out that you misconstrued that womans point in order to be angry at her, which you measurably did. you aren't even denying it.
Why are you like this, this is twice now
>You did the thing yes see you did look even you said you did
What do you want a cookie, or something? I'm sorry you felt that way? God you're like dog waiting for a treat,
>oh but i just intejected to simp for this womans u was maaaads at
It's 4chan, that's not a woman, im not even mad and nothing ever happens, get used to it
>i've been one 4chan since 2007 and every day i ask myself why i get into conversations with indians who have severe mommy anger issues
hoho you called me an indian now I know for sure you're a legit oldfag well pardon the fuck me
I don't know there big guy I was just wondering the same thing myself

>>510027083
>Crushed under boots, currently.
That's how it is supposed to be. Women are inherently reliant on men for a reason: because men should always assume a leadership role with their women.

Why has (((the West))) put a huge amount of effort into ensuring that doesn't happen? (((Feminism))) is extremely new relatively speaking.

>>510027573
>It's 4chan, that's not a woman, im not even mad and nothing ever happens, get used to it
fine, that delusional would-be tranny made a cogent point. no skin off my nose. you still chimped out like a retard.

the rest of your post is just you being exceedingly assmad. enjoy your eventual court ordered therapy.

>>510027750
>fine, that delusional would-be tranny made a cogent point
she made a point, and I kind of shit on her but given the context and climate of the thread, she should have anticipated that and you are clearly well invested into something here which leads me to
>enjoy your eventual court ordered therapy
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind

>>510026759
10 years ago all ancient MGTOW/blackpill talking points were shrugged off as nonsense or a psyop, but people at one point have to accept even the most uncomfortable truths. It may not be time for people to accept this, but we are mammals and we aren't exempt from patterns observable in mammal nature. Species with foreign male DNA abhor the male, it's as simple as that.

>>510027613
But then you have to understand why societies never last, it's fighting an externalized superorganism, an immune system embedded into social constructs that basically evolved in specific ways to slowly devour men using their methods of control. Women have 90% of the male population on their side, working as thoughtless husks to rush to their defense and in contrast, you have to also accept that men didn't evolve to actually control and/or fight women and will always succumb to their ways. The male body doesn't abhor it's female counterpart, the female body does. It's completely one-sided.

All methods of control you have at your disposal work around logic, planning and reason while women's ways are reinforced by primal instinct. Pathos always triumphs over logos.

>>510027573
wait, why did you write that poster a whole fucking novel
>>510020525
if you didn't think it was a woman?
damn, you're backpedaling hard.
>>510028110
>I kind of shit on her
no, you shit yourself about your mommy issues instead of reflecting on what was being discussed like a mentally ill retard.

>>509991752 (OP)
I got two kids 3 and 5 and I've called 911 on my wife twice yeah it's a real thing

She was very sweet before kids

>>509992746
Watts vibes from this couple.

Hope he never has kids w/ her

>>510028233
>no, you shit yourself about your mommy issues instead of reflecting on what was being discussed like a mentally ill retard.
Why is you feel as if you are to dictate what others should be discussing or reflection on? Why do you even care if i'm a mentally ill retard, why do you think I even care what you think? I'm genuinely curious, it's fascinating

>>510028709
>Why is you feel as if you are to dictate what others should be discussing or reflection on?
lmao now who's the crybaby? im not dictating anything, i'm making fun of you because you're a dumbass. gg faggot, you sure can give a punch but not take one.

>>510028709
now he suddenly wants to play the reasonable victim of angry discourse. your started off this chain calling me a simp and a retard
>>510022306

>>510028781
exceptionally weak goad

>>510028173
I get what you're trying to say, that women intrinsically hate men, but it's just not true. I've been down this part of the blackpill and I've realized that they do not have the capability to feel such strong emotions consistently. You are probably referring to one of the symptoms of late-stage feminism: women being allowed to freely express their hypergamous desires due to social media conditioning. This again is why her mates were always chosen by her first leader in life, the father. The same way women can randomly feel disdain (the "ick") they can also be made to love their partner when her father walks her down the aisle as part of her ceremony that symbolizes she is going to be led by another man now.

Even it was true, what is your suggestion to dealing with this inclination from women? The only answer is to strictly regulate their partners. That's it.

>>510027613
So to summarize before 404
>women despise men on a genetic level
>society is an extension of the male
>women will naturally feel repulsed by the entire construct and obey their instincts to destroy it because it feels foreign to them, even if it serves only their specific needs, there's no logic or reason behind it

>>510029037
nah, you're just backpedaling away from your reams of insulting people to try to take the high road a little too late. there's nothing to goad, you have no point. you're just being petulant anytime women are brought up.