Weren't they best friends in USSR times?

They even explored space together and fought Hitler together.

Why did they randomly decide to fight each other to the death? It's kind of depressing if you think about it. It's akin to USA and Canada killing each other.

>>509995529 (OP)
one decided to be an oligarchy the other decided to be an oligarchy but for the west

>>509995529 (OP)
We tried Anschluss on their arse, but forgot it's not 1939 anymore and Ukraine is 41 mill people.
Truth is, this war is now about money, perhaps always has been, who gets what, till those cuckheads decide, we get to die. I don't personally, because I have a brain not to go there, but I pity those who serve.

>>509995529 (OP)
>Weren't they best friends in USSR times?
No
>They even explored space together and fought Hitler together.
No
>Why did they randomly decide to fight each other to the death?
Pigger decision to commit suicide by Russia wasn't random
>It's akin to USA and Canada killing each other.
More about USA and Mexico, only mexicans are whiter and actually have history

>>509995813
>No
Nonsense, half of USSR leaders were Ukrainian. If that's not friendship, I don't know what is.

>>509995813
>and actually have history

>>509995946
Reminder that you were part of the Hordes, taTaras.

>>509995946
Rus moved it's capital multiple times. Novgorod, Kiev, Moscow, SPB etc. The ironing of that picture is the top row is the history of Russia, not whatever "Borderland" artificial state occupies Kiev now.

Anyway, as for OP, Ukraine SSR was never overly "friendly" to Russia SSR, sadly the kernel of the anti-russian "national idea" was planted there already in the second half of 19th century by Germanic (Jewish?) Slavophiles to break up Panslavism movement.

>>509995529 (OP)
>Why did they randomly decide to fight each other to the death?
Because putler randomly decided to invade Crimea and Donbass in 2014.

>>509995529 (OP)
I would call it a tragic fratricidal war, but wartime propaganda is tearing them apart.
When reading 19th-century Russian literature, it seems that few people were concerned with regional and ethnic distinctions between Kiev, Minsk, and St. Petersburg.
When the war ends, they will either conveniently remember that they were once similar brothers, or they will remain deeply divided.

>>509996316
Rus =/= Russia

Russia has a habit of making up larp history. Being "3rd Rome" is the exact same story.

>>509995807
Uninformed moron.

>>509995940
It's called diversity. Something you'll never achieve.

>>509995813
> Pigger decision to commit suicide by Russia
Funny considering Russia is committing suicide by Ukraine

>>509995813
Bruh. Ukrainians are slavs just like you. What a good kalergi golem you are

>>509995946
Keep coping but won't save you form landmines.

>It's akin to USA and Canada killing each other.

Now THAT would be based

>>509996775
So are you.

>>509996783
>indian memeflaggot

>>509996665
Like it wasn't a successor of combined Northern/Western principalities, called Tsardom.

>>509995529 (OP)
They were never best friends. Russia has fucked with them for centuries.

>>509996316
Russians don't understand what Russia is.
Kingdom or Russia isn't Rus. You are muscovites who got really mad at Novgorod. Your history starts there.

>>509996606
After the attempted SSR invasion, holodomor and this, unless the government reverts back to an absolute isolated state then destroys all historical documents/mention. It's probably extremely unlikely that there will ever be any sort of cooperation/overall peace as it were pre 19th century.
Thanks again Jews.

>>509996715
Larp all you want, if you don't pity the common soldier I renounce your humanity and expel you from calling yourself Russian, because you have none of good qualities of my people.

>>509996665
>Rus =/= Russia
Ladoga
Novgorod
Kiev
Pereslavl-Zalessky
Vladimir
Moscow

1/6 capitals are outside of current Russia. Pretty safe to say we are the natural continuation of the ancient Rus

>>509995529 (OP)
>euroaches turn on each other

Can’t trust the white devil

>>509996944
>we are the natural continuation of the ancient Rus
There's not a drop of Rurik's cum left in you mongol-chink abominations.

>>509996316
>Rus moved it's capital multiple times. Novgorod, Kiev, Moscow, SPB etc.
What does the current crypto-neo-bolshevik of the "Russian Federation" have to do with Rus'?

>>509996988
how would you even know? If it wasn't for our sources you guys wouldn't even know he existed to begin with

>>509996906
Boohoo Ruzzians and building "their" cities, giving Crimea for free, promoting their villagespeak to a language etc

Ukropigs like you hiding in Norway are ungrateful swine
I hate Ukrainians simple as. You're greedy, jealous and prone to hysterical fits of rage when you don't get your way like a BPD women with PMS

>>509996838
Yes. And we are proud to be Slavs, we are proud to be related to Russians and Ukrainians

>>509995529 (OP)
Ukraine started leaning towards west so Russia got butthurt and was totally forced to attack.

>>509997138
>crypto-neo-bolshevik
Poles were communist before it was cool here
Read about the Paris commune

>>509995529 (OP)
it's like turks and greeks. both are shitskins only interested in wewuzzin over centuries old conflicts.

>>509997138
>What does the current crypto-neo-bolshevik of the "Russian Federation" have to do with Rus'?
We are the direct successor, physical and spiritual, of both Rurikid Rus and Eastern Roman Empire. That is why you seethe and your butt is very hurt.

>>509997333
triforce trips
/thread

>>509997191
> You're greedy, jealous and prone to hysterical fits of rage
Real. Ukrainians are driven by emotion and resentiment, not by facts and logic. That makes them dangerously retarded to have on your border.

>>509997265
>"started" "leaning"
Western a.k.a. Jewish NGOs have infiltrated Ukraine since the fall of USSR

Ukraine is an oligarchy, some of their oligarchs were bribed to lean West.
Now the puppet terror regime in Kiev is kidnapping people on the street to "lean West"

>>509997270
>Poles were communist
Communism is antithetical to the very essence of Poland and being Polish.

>>509996809
Shalom rabbi

>>509997270
True, but that was in the past. In the past the tsarist officers like Brusilov helped the bolsheviks but today they seethe at them endlessly

>>509997433
And Russia got butthurt and was totally forced to attack.

>>509997528
He is right. USA and Canada are ZOG and shouldn't exist. Only Europe matters

>>509995529 (OP)
Russians are inherently incapable of creating their own happiness. In order for them to feel oke about themselves someone else has to be more miserable than they are.
When there are none more miserable around they will create them and in doing so delude themselves into thinking they are not the lowest among all human races.

>>509997573
>got butthurt
This is waayy beyond "getting butthurt", the chickenhawk neocon jew pigs in Nato and the Eurocrats in Brussels wants to make the Ukraine a forward base against Russia

They are greedy and attempted subversion in Belarus and Kazakhstan as well, Ukraine is a piece in a larger picture and Russia is drawing the line here once and for all. Otherwise their unyielding confrontational attitude would produce ww3

>>509997138
>What does the current crypto-neo-bolshevik of the "Russian Federation" have to do with Rus'?
Name one Slav country that wasn't communist. The only people who fought against it were Germans. Even in white army, you have Witte, Wrangel, etc.
Why is that? Because Slavic tribes always lived in an egalitarian way while Germanics had invented classes and aristocracy centuries before slavs did.

>>509997717
Working well for them because they turned pretty much every European country against them.

>>509997716
You just described America. Even Brazil has higher standard than them, hence Trumpenstein is conducting a color revolution there

>>509997717
Because nato had no forward bases close to russias border before 2022?
Are you mentaly ill or just incredibly stupid?

A bit of both i wager judging from your demented ramblings here

>>509997716
I would say pajeets, muslims and niggers are below them. They're more like the Chinese. Somewhat sentient, but not fully.

>>509995529 (OP)
They are not friends, they are one nation. The two great Cold War leaders Breshnev and Kruschev were Ukrainian. How could Russia be ruled by them if Ukrainians are not Russians.

>>509997800
Nonsense, its mostly Belters with a grudge screeching and very opinionated in a conflict none of their business
I don't see this hysteria in Italy, Greece, France etc.. they dgaf about difference between Rus and Ukr irl

Ukrainian as a culture started as a pushback when poland colonised/polonised and pushed cucktolic doctrine there.
When we liberated them in WWI they could for the first time rule themself until Soviets swallowed them up and created the holodomor as a thank you against them.
In the union they got the best industrial jobs and favours but that was not enough because at the end it was still russians ruling them. After the collapse they were fine being 'neutral' but it was too much when Ukraine was close to get the EU economic integration pact but Moscow forced them to stop it. Then 2014 happened and they revolted. Everything after russians did everything to make the Ukrainians hating russians even more.
Now they have war and want total zigger dwath.

>>509997500
>Communism is antithetical to the very essence of Poland and being Polish.
Communism is antithetical to the very essence of Russia and being Russian.
Communism is antithetical to the very essence of Humanity and being human.
Your point? Yeah, Russia is more authoritarian historically, but authoritarian =/= communist. Read some Solzenitsin regarding the massive crime of "communism" that was perpetrated upon Russian people.

>>509995946
Ukrainian language didn't exist in middle ages. And back then it was called Kiev. You can check it in freely available historical documents.
Also, it was called Kievan RUS, not Kiyiiiivan UKR.

>>509997952
That's my favorite part about russia.
No matter how much they bring the rest of humanity down, they are always hardest on themselves.
Absolutely love to see it continued in ukraine

>>509995529 (OP)
Ukraine and Russia were never buddies in recent times. I don't know what kind of history revision you're trying to get but Russia never respected Ukraine, always trying to be dominant.

>>509997854
You nafoids are truly retarded on a profound level, nobody is going to stage invasion or covert operations from Baltic microstates

Can I take your post as an admission Nato is an expansionist project after all?

>>509995529 (OP)
Everyone who was "friends" with Soviet Russia was either by force or necessity.

>>509995529 (OP)
Nigger i know jew brainwashed you but if you don't know about holodomor in Ukraine then you are illiterate nigger. Now go back to streaming and make money on opening CS2 cases.

>>509995946
>kiew
>russian lived there once

>>509997942
>EU economic integration pact
Would that even have done anything in the in the next decades? Europes attitude towards Ukraine was always rather cold and distant.

Russia chimped out over literally nothing.

>>509995813
>hohols have actual history
Lmao after visiting SPb and historical sites this sounds as an outrageous joke. You have everything from diamonds to tigers, they only have nafo "memes" and a negative mention in taras bulba

>>509995529 (OP)
Yes and no, goyim, no; Divided.
(((They))) still are.
https://files.catbox.moe/sev6q4.mp4

>>509998088
Ukrainians literally burned their crops to prevent collectivization and in doing so they starved a couple of Kazakhs and Russians as well

>>509998087
False
>>509997952
>Solzenitsin
CIA

>>509998029
>Kievan RUS, not Kiyiiiivan UKR.
By the same logic you could ask, why wasn't it called Muscovy Rus? Why was it called Kievan Rus? If Kiev was the center of Ancient Rus, logically it means they have a greater claim to that continuity than Moscow has.

>>509998143
You say chimped out but you fucked Europe for the 3rd time. It's the German tick once in a while German starts going schizo and wants to fuck everything up. It's kind of like jewish tick but jews are going mental they have this schizo rants and they almost impossible to talk to and you have same but instead of schizo you have something like nigger tick yes... a nigger tick is closer to it because nigger when it have nigger tick it usually goes and commit crimes and you go and fuck everything up.

>>509998072
Nobody invaded russia period, there is nothing for us there except more russians and who wants that?

Ofcourse nato is expansionist, and countries join gladly.
Russian trans-national organizations on the other hand have always been both pointless and unpopular.

It is wierd to me that expansionist nato is such a big argument for pro russian faggots like yourself.

YOUR ORGANISATION IS SUCCESFULL AND POPULAR LOL THAT MEANS YOU ARE GARBAGE AND DESERVE TO GET INVADED BY RUSSIA

And don't start on 'muh clinton promised no expansion'
Lying is what politicians do, the country or location is relevant. We can generate endless lists of lies from both sides and learn nothing from it.

you people

>>509998087
Nafoid projection, West doesn't have "friends". You bomb insubordinates into submission like Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq etc
And opened the migrant floodgates to Europe because of your aggression

>>509995529 (OP)
Each other? You mean Russia decided to invade Ukraine

>>509998087
Does it matter now? There's no choice, it's either satanist jews in USA or satanist jews in Russia. Either way, you end up with the same Russia aka (((jews))) friends that you hate.

>>509998426
the anti jew crowd on this site has to be the most boring bunch of faggots ever assembled.
holy fuck are you lame

>>509998394
Ukraine decided to invade the Donetsk in 2014.

>>509998426
There are no Jews outside USA and Israel

>>509998307
What did we have to do with this whole shit? Ukraine begged us for weapons, not the other way around. I know it's hard to believe, but this time we had nothing to do with the coming world war.

>>509998316
>Nobody invaded Russia period
European countries have a tendency to chimp out and invade Russia every 100 years
>Poland PLC
>Sweden Charles XII
>France Napoleon
>Germany ww2

>of course nato is expansionist
Yup thought it. Guess where we are in the cycle now, its invade Russia time and greedy

>and countries join Gladys
Yes yes. If they are not happy Gayto has ways to make them happy. Covert subversion, humanitarian bombing, "intervention" aka invasion
Some Euro leader admitted if Russia didn't have nukes Nato would launch an "intervention"

>>509998394
Who didn't decide to invade Ukraine is the real question. Even Ukraine itself worked for the current outcome for a decade. You can say only some of its citizens didn't want this.
>>509998462
>>509998506
Shalom.

>>509995529 (OP)
>Weren't they best friends in USSR times?
depends on who you ask lol
neither one actually considered the other one a friend
>They even explored space together and fought Hitler together.
ukrainians fought both russia and germany after 1941 when the declaration of independence attempt was canned by the germans, russians fought germans because 70% voluntary fighting 30% mobilization
>Why did they randomly decide to fight each other to the death? It's kind of depressing if you think about it. It's akin to USA and Canada killing each other.
"during the imperial times ukraine has covered up to 3/4 of all grains need throughout the whole empire and would be pity to lose such a massive fucking breadbasket" that's what I'd say if the russian govt and most of the population weren't so nihilistic towards both their state and their welfare + extreme poverty excludes any chance of seeing the better life anywhere else besides moscow and st. petersburg

>>509998394
Yes each other, because Ukrainians didn't surrender like cucks. They started killing Russians. And they were good at it.

France surrendered to Germany. Ukraine didn't surrender to Russia.

>>509998511
It was USA and now American slopnik shills want to blame Europe for it. USA did the coup in Ukraine, USA told Ukraine to provoke, USA expanded NATO.
Germany was still happily trading gaz with Russia under Olaf

>>509998511
Of course you have everything with it.
European Union was first that was up on their legs supplying Ukrainians. Which holy shit i don't have anything against but giving weapons to Ukraine when there is a jew as president that wants to wipe out whole Ukraine and kill as many Russians in process as he can then i would say it's kind of fucked up.

>>509998143
Would have worked the same way it worked with poland aka poland getting flooded by Ukrainians as work cattle while in return western companies relocating there for even cheaper production creating economic growth.
Ask poles how poland is nowadays.

>>509998029
>Also, it was called Kievan RUS
also, it was not even called neither kyivan nor kievan, it was just Rus. it's just that Muscovy chose it's own way after the feudalization of the Rus

>>509998643
Called it. It is an USA Eglin slopnik trying to shift the blame to Europe

>>509998525
Holy fuck, you might be the dumbest nigger who ever nigged

>European countries have a tendency to chimp out and invade Russia every 100 years
Every country has invaded/been invaded regularly over the past 100 years. By your logic all countries in the world would be justified in invading a random neighbour based on this shared history.

>its invade Russia time
Despite russia not being invaded and actually invading another country.
You are clearly a russian degenerate simply based on the amount of shit you keep eating

That last rambling sentence is barely legible and certainly not worthy of a response.
All in all i realize i wasted a bunch of time on a random mongoloid who is incapable of any kind of critical thinking.
Have a good day

>>509998307
Are you Slovenian gypsies or Slovakian gypsies? You nonnations have all the same flag.

>>509998598
That's exactly what i mean, you people always use the same exact arguments and when losing simply shout "KIKE" and tell yourself you are victorious

so incredibly boring lol

>>509998330
>you bomb
>lists a bunch of brown, non-NATO countries
Heh, yeah we did.

>>509998700
Well Jew is obviously CIA asset or mosad asset but Euros are first who gave the jew weapons.

>>509998735
Aaa ahhhaha here we go German tick. We are above you.... we are just better, you are subhuman... stop it Hans come back to reality.

>>509998720
You are a braindead Ukrainian refugee, go back to the front Taras and die for your Jewish overlords

>>509998782
>why do you keep bringing this... creep Epstein
>why do you keep bringing these... chosen goblins

>>509998479
>invade your own country
Well, shit.
In that case Trump is currently invading California.

>>509998796
You might want to look up the statistics for that

>>509998841
He is desu. So Canada is justified in doing a SMO on USA and take California.

>>509998818
You are barely capable of writing full sentences.
I love the idea that people like you are too cowardly to kill themselves and just have to keep living their shitty little lives.
Long may it continue

>>509998643
Yes I agree it's fucked up.

This reminds me a lot of us and England. They fucking descend from German tribes, yet were forced to fight us to the death and turned our cities to ash in WW2. It's the jewish world we live in. This shit happened countless times.

The way I see it, this is a genocide of both Russians and Ukrainians. You know who and why they are doing this.

>>509998783
How did bombing Libya help Europe? The migrant invasion across the Med in large numbers started here
The witch Hildebeast got her regime change, now what?

>>509995529 (OP)
>Why did they randomly decide to fight each other to the death?
Western Jews like Valerie Kagan did a coup to throw out the pro-Russia people and convinced them to attack Russian speaking Slavs within their own borders as part of a geopolitical plot to weaken Russia. A dying petrodollar must continually find new lands to consume and exploit to maintain itself. The breakup of Russia would inject a couple decades of life into the failed Western paradigm.

>>509998643
>jew as president that wants to wipe out whole Ukraine and kill as many Russians in process as he can then
supply meets demand

>>509995529 (OP)
You have a strange definition of friendship. Russians killing Ukrainians to populate their lands with Jews for the past 300 years, starting with the suppression of the Koliivshchyna (anti-Jew rebellion) and the Pale of Settlement. When they switched to other enemies, it was possible to coexist with them.

>>509998088
>holodomor
Just wait until you learn about Ukrainians burning the crops rather than giving them to the kolkhoz, thus amplifying the already present problems due to retarded collectivization. And that more people died in Volga region and Kazakh steppes than did in "the Ukraine" during this nation-wide famine. You know, because Communism is fundamentally anti-human.
Holodomor is literally the same shit as Holocaust: bunch of prisoners of war starved and died of typhus in German camps and somehow it's uniquely jewish tragedy, bunch of people starved in USSR because collectivization and lysenko shit, because that was it's purpose, fucking genocide of christians. Yet somehow it's uniquely anti-hohol genocide hoholohoholodomor. Golodomor literaly just means "famine" in Russian.

cuckholes are brainwashed retarded masses that think larping as something they arent (western culture) makes them just as good as them while in reality they are just retards with delusional takes
Its of no coincidence that they spawn from Slavic tribes closer to western cat*olic degenerates

>>509998938
>>509999053

Problem is that every politician is controlled in every European state even here it might act like conservative but it's actually jewish puppet. Slovakia isn't different, they do whatever jews want from them. Hungary acts like counter-opposition welp next thing you know Jews are actually learning Hungarian and Hungarian gypsy is throwing his own people out from houses so jews can come to Hungary. ETC this is fucking everywhere that's why im saying we don't have time for this bullshit until jew will go back to Israel and made sure that he will never come outside again from there.

>>509999214
Its same phenomenon like in Balkans, croaches, muzzshits, monteniggers all cry as if THEY are the biggest victim of commies which actualy gave them their own states after making federation from kingdom of Serbs and actualy breaking up Serbian nationality to tiniest pieces or erasing it compleatly with new indetity
Biggest after civil war population of "Yugoslavs" was in Serbia and non existant in other parts of commieslavia yet all of the other exYu retards cry out as if they were the most wronged

>>509999214
Why do you russians always rewrite history? It's like you are allergic to the truth. Maybe because it makes you look like weak niggers.

>>509999556
He is right in the first part

>>509999214
>Just wait until you learn about Ukrainians burning the crops rather than giving them to the kolkhoz
Sounds kind of based. Fuck communism.

>a bunch of niggers come to you to force you to live in some fucking commune where architects and engineers are the same as fucking toilet cleaners and peasants and you are all forced to work on a farm
>you refuse, even if it fucks up food production
>somehow it's your fault

>>509999266
What is wrong with Fico specifically?

>>509999662
>we don't like our country's ideology, that is why we will openly sabotage it and kill your people
The same strategy that caused tsarist officers to leave white army for the bolsheviks. Have fun, kraut. See how it works for you

>>509999662
>based starving yourself to own le commies
Like cutting off your balls and become a tranny to spite feminists. Average Ukrainian iq on display here

>>509999781
KEK

>>509999691
He is saying one and do others.
He said multiple times no help to Ukraine no weapons to Ukraine.
He literally gave thumbs up to weapons and help to Ukraine.

He said he is going to help arrest politicians who stole billions during covid and they end up in prison instead that of that he let them go and give them freedom + we got higher taxes because we have to pay what they stole.

He said he is going to do business on all 4 sides and fucked us over with Chinese battery factory which will damage our water and crops, we literally had to do like 5 protests and when we got to talk with Chinese even they got fucking horrified what that cunt did. He is literally lying, cheating and constantly truning coats.

>>509999832
Slovakia didn't send any weapons to Ukraine AFAIK. He just OKayed EU sending it because it didn't really affect him

>>509999781
It was probably a bunch of jews anyways on both sides like it always is. Goyim never decide anything.

>>509999938
Yep but we voted for that cunt so he will stop any help. Because we didn't want to participate in this in any way and since EU wanted to fuck us with gas which we bought from Russia that cunt instead of telling EU okay send weapons but we get how much gas we want he only nodded on 2-3 more years. He is a fucking cunt.

>>509995529 (OP)
Pic related

>>509998940
>how did it help Europe
I don't know, ask your European leaders. You guys dragged us into it and held helping out Bush as leverage over Obama.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/europe-not-us-pushed-for-military-force-in-libya/
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-politics/clinton-says-libya-no-fly-zone-should-not-be-us-led-idUSTRE728062/
https://newrepublic.com/article/87377/libya-nato-military-power-europe-us
Not my problem. Guess, you guys really held a grudge against Gaddafi...

>>509999832
>>510000055
Sounds like trump. You would be in prison, drain the swamp. Turned into "why do you keep asking about Epstein."
I will end all wars in 24 hours turned into yes master i will bomb iran for you. May we please stop now please, or i lose all my base.

>>510000193
kek
It really is hard to distinguish them. Even their women look and behave fucking identical.

>>510000398
Yes it's exactly like copy cat but our cunt was first actually. Just like Fico got shot at first Trump got shot at later. So watch out for Fico and you will see year later what Trump will do.

>>509999083
Did you learn that from your george soros textbooks in school?
Faggot

>>509995529 (OP)
>Weren't they best friends in USSR times?
No. Ukraine is not a real thing and ""Ukrainians"" is political affiliation for zogged Russians.

>>510000193
Mongol hate is a psyop.

>>510000634
If Ukrainians aren't real, why are you killing your own people? It doesn't make any sense. Germans would never kill Austrians.

>>510000899
Germans killed many Austrian partisans during WWII

>>510001077
Was it actually many or are you making shit up?

>>510001478
It was more than one, so by definition it is many

>>509997370
> Ukrainians are driven by emotion and resentiment, not by facts and logic. Tha
I guess that’s why russniggers don’t get emotional and want to destroy nice things when they see them. Oh wait…

>>510001643
>cato sees the resplendence of carthage despite after being utterly defeated in the second punic war, decides they must be destroyed and all their wealth should be rome's
>"HECKIN BASED, SPQR!!! FINLAND WUZ ROME!!!!!"
Ivan here is unironically based.

>>510001077
There were none stop lying. Soviet infiltrators are not Austrian.
Kill all communists always and ever.

>>510002585
LOL stop coping. They are Austrians and you killed them.

>>510002652
Just because we killed like 5 mentally ill austrians doesn't prove anything. Russians are killing thousands of Ukrainians each week.

>>510002730
You killed thousands as well

>>509995529 (OP)
In 2014 the US CIA instigated a coup in Ukraine replacing the democratically elected neutral government with a US favored puppet regime. This caused what happened over the next decade to begin. Basically globohomo brainwashed millions to believe Russia was now very very bad.

>>510000899
>why are you killing your own people?
Killing traitors is good and based. You must keep the blood clean, and deal with these who turned to Ruinous Powers aka anglovermins and jews.

>>510002941
Okay, keep killing your cousins. More room for the niggers and pajeets that Cucktin wants to import.

>>509995529 (OP)
>Why did they randomly decide to fight
jews,ameriniggers,anglocucks cant wait to see another continental war in europe

>>510002909
Proof?
Some American politician whore giving free cookies is not proof at all. While the totally democratic president instead of standing his crimes before a trial when his government put him down rather fleed to Moscow. Nothing suspicious at all.

>>510002941
>people who were never born in Russia, never considered themselves Russian, never pledge allegiance to Russia are “traitors” for not joining Russia

>>510003162
And the hilarious thing is, even if they did, they are eternally hohols to Russians. They never considered them Russian either.

>>510003021
>Okay, keep killing your cousins
Don't worry, our chads will. Traitors who target beaches with children have to be killed.

The only outcome for hohols is to capitulate and hand over the traitors for neutralization.

>>510003283
> Traitors who target beaches with children have to be killed.
Finally Russians agreed with total zigger death

>>510003162
>for not joining Russia
Lying pidor.

>>510003458
>Lying
What lies?
>pidor
I’m not Russian

>>510003283
I mean, at least he won't have to grow up in Russia now.

>>509995529 (OP)
>Why did they randomly decide to fight each other to the death?
Because Putin wanted it. Without him there would be no war. There wasn't some popular movement from either side about going to war with the other. Most people didn't even know there would be a war until the day it happened.

>>509996944
>Completely seperate city states, which often were at war with each other
>Captials of Rus
Lmao

Reading the records of Imperial Russia, it is clear that after their expansion into the West, they struggled earnestly to prevent the jews, whom mostly they had inherited from the Poles, from dominating their industry or controlling the land in the rural areas that were their "utopia" with the exception of the Pale of Settlement in the West (1791-1917, eastern Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine).
However, with the logic of peace within the castle and need for rapid industrialization and money during WW I and the intervention of the (((Allies)) and debt from them forced Russians to withdraw their anti-jewish policies and liberalize, reaching a climax with the February Revolution of 1917.
Also, a lot of them fled to the Russian interior amid the chaos caused by the German army's advance during World War I, thus formed the core of the Bolsheviks, and that is why there were fewer jewish Kulaks than usually expected, and the Bolshevik jews were able to impose harsh policies on them.
Surprisingly, the Tsars of Imperial Russia were generally kind-hearted, which is why the jews probably hated them. The Bolsheviks, needless to say, and the urban jewish-dominated Narodnaya Volya assassinated Alexander II who had been relatively lenient toward them, despicable rats. And Poland was truly amulticultural cesspool, and their nobility made money by taking it from jewish moneylenders and liquor store owners. It's no wonder the Führer generally despised them.

>>509995529 (OP)
>Weren't they best friends in USSR times?
Just don't mention the 1930s.

>>510004098
No, I was serious.

When Gorbachev learned about the war, he was traumatized. Apparently his wife was Ukrainian or some shit. There was heavy mixing between both sides. Like really heavy. Half of Kiev spoke Russian at home. But all of that is Ancient history now. Putin flushed it down the toilet. They will hate each other now for the next century like some sand nigger countries.

>>510004026
>Surprisingly, the Tsars of Imperial Russia were generally kind-hearted
Hmmmmm? 25 years of conscription is a weird way of saying kind. If you are talking about Alexander he only freed the peasants because he was afraid of a revolution and he said so himself. Russia has not had a real tsar in centuries. Romanovs were an illegitimate family and stole the throne from Rurik, so no wonder why nobody cared that bolsheviks took the throne from them.

>>510004291
>25 years of conscription
Source?

>>510004532
Just look it up. It was eventually "reduced" to 15, but the jap wasn't talking about Nicholas but Tsars in general.

>>509996715
Uniformed moron

>>510004291
I haven't researched Russia's military service system at that time in detail, but I assume it was probably a system of allocating quotas to each community? 25 years is too long even for professional soldiers though.
They seems to approach peasants in a patriarchal manner, for better or worse, and their logic of protecting them from the so-called "jewish influence" of industrialism was quite serious.
I believe that was ultimately more appropriate than later forcing them into small apartments in cities and factories.

>>509995529 (OP)
>Weren't they best friends in USSR times?

They both were in the USSR together but say they were friends is really doing a disservice to the word friend.
More like 2 individuals in a prison cell and one of the inmates bullies and rapes the othe other on occasion

>>509995529 (OP)

> fought Hitler together.

>>510004920
Urbanisation was already happening under Nicholas but the wars delayed it. The only difference is that people could afford commieblocks but couldn't afford whatever was there before. So they rented - a terrible fate
Rent also allowed the industrialists to hold the people hostage and impose whatever conditions on them they wanted. Europe in general should build more commieblocks because we have the same problem
>but durr they are ugly
We can improve aesthetics once everyone has an apartment.

>>510004670
>The term of service during the 18th century was for life. In 1793 it was reduced to 25 years.
God damn, Russians truly are slaves

>>509995529 (OP)
Ukrainians got brainwashed by jews into hating russia

>>510005164
Majority of the people running Russian Empire were ethnic Germans.
In fact, prior to bolshevik revolution, the whole world was practically ran by the same Germanic family

>>510004252

This was 2013

https://youtu.be/cTmhTxzAH70?si=eHmfODE7WEOFpNS3

>>510005421
Well, they flushed it down the toilet by deciding to go to war with each other as if it is some online game, using millions of real people as chess pieces. If Nicky, George and Wilhelm had better relations, the world would be completely different.

Aristocrats are fucked in the head.

>>510005164
Nigger please. Prussian army had service time for life, lowered to 20 years in 1834

>>510005625
These are your people, hans. You keep putting all Russians in one basket, but whenever talking about Germany it is "the aristocrats"
Curious.

>>510005785
All of them are probably jews anyway, so definitely not my people.

>>509995807
>Ukraine is 41 mill people.
They're like 25 now

>>510006395
Why did these idiots even allow women to leave for the West? You evacuate women from war zones into safe zones. You don't exile them from your entire fucking country altogether.

>>510006183
They actively disliked or pretended to dislike Jews. That doesn't mean they weren't Jews since self hating Jews is common in history, but still

>>509995946
Wasn't novgorod the first capital of kyivan rus

>>509996665
>They think it's not gay if you assfuck a man as long as you humiliate him
>They fight with endless masses of poorfag plebs
>They are a de facto monarchy pretending not to be one
Russia is closer to Rome in Spirit than any of us

>>510006627
>They are a de facto monarchy pretending not to be one
Are you retarded? Putin's children live outside Russia and have zero interest in politics. On top of that, who is the aristocracy?

>>510006478
There are plenty of stealth jews. They didn't need to practise judaism, if they had like 1 great-great mother who is jewish, they are jews in my view. You'd be surprised how many perfectly white looking stealth jews there are.

>>509996988
Rurik, if he even existed that is, didn't build much, 99% of the development of Kievan Rus came from East Slavs themselves.
>>509997138
Oh my ZoV this is based

the reason being that russia is more on the jewish authoritarian side and ukraine on the jewish democratic side. both of them are just jews with different opinions, kek.

>>510006699
Here is a good example

If someone ends up in power, you can be assured he has some degree of jew in him

>>510005130
We still viewed them as subhumans which they clearly are and it was US Germans who put their beloved hero Bandera in a concentrationcamp.
They larping as nazis is beyond retarded except that it makes the russians seethe nonstop which is funny while many russians are larping on the front too.

>>510006699
I know this. Because most of modern Jews are Yiddish so they are mixed with Europeans. But having a great grandmother Jewish is like 1/8 jewish which is not very jewish. Even Hitler's bodyguard was 1/8 jewish and Hitler wasn't bothered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice

>>510006890
Well, there are biological jews and psychological jews so...

>>510005158
Did the Bolshevik Revolution merely resume, accelerate, or distort the process of urbanization? Was it truly beneficial for society as a whole that reactionaries clinging to agrarianism were swept away by the revolution? Was it a good thing to hand over everything to a committee of jewish technocrats instead of the evil aristocracy?
So-called commie blocks like Khrushchevka aren't bad in themselves, but cramming people who moved to big cities from the countryside into them for rapid industrialization and the education needed for it seems to cause their birth rates to plummet the faster it happens. This has been seen in East Asia, where many countries went through forced urbanization, and also in the former Soviet Union.
Also, such megacities become strongholds for cosmopolitan liberals and spoiled gay leftists close to the media and academia, spreading poison throughout the entire country.

>>510006452
Hoholinas were looking for any excuse to flee and took the chance
>>510006671
>Putin's children live outside Russia and have zero interest in politics
So what? Doesn't mean Zutin isn't your khan

>>510007122
Urbanisation is a consequence of industrialization. Although it is not always inevitable. For example in my country the commies built several factories between villages which resulted in Slovenija today having one of the lowest urbanisation rates in europe at 56%.
The Soviets have accelerated industrialization but it would have happened regardless, it would just take longer. I mean America industrialised without socialism.
And I don't think education caused birth rates to plummet, retirement did. People used to have more children not because they were less educated but because they needed someone to inherit their farm and to care of them when they were old. It was a purely transactional reason, nothing to do with bloodline (nationalism didn't even exist before last 200 years so most people cared only about "the God and the King", not the "volk")

>>510007039
Elaborate

>>509995807
Based informed smart person. I work with several Russians such as yourself.

>>510007477
Did Nicky, Wilhelm and George put apart their superficial differences and focus on what actually unites them? Their race and blood? No? Then they are likely psychologically judaized.

>>509995529 (OP)
One has a delusional self image of a empire to be restored. The rest is history.

>>509998029
>Ukrainian language didn't exist in middle ages
Disingenuous retards like you won't even admit that Ukrainian is closer to old Slavic than Russian is because it destroys your entire narrative

>>510007599
I mean they were monarchs. Monarchy (true monarchy) is opposed to nationalism. And they also intermarried all the time and a foreign aristocrat is seen as above a local peasant.
In monarchy there are two races, the blue blooded and the plebs

>>509995807
Based russian, I wish more were like you.

>>509995529 (OP)
>Why did they randomly decide to fight each other to the death?
Western Ukraine wants to integrate with Europe and the West.
Eastern Ukraine wants to integrate with Russia.
The West supports Ukraine's western ambitions.
Putin supports Ukraine's Russian ambitions.
This lead to internal conflict, starting a war in Ukraine.
Then Putin decided to "end" this war by invading all of Ukraine once and for all.
The invasion failed and escalated into a trench war of attrition.
Now Putin wants to dominate all of Ukraine.
This is not something Ukraine can live with so they're stuck fighting this shitty war.
This could easily be solved with a compromise.
If Putin was a reasonable man he'd let Ukraine exist with a military OR alliance, at the cost of some land. But he wants Ukraine to be cut in half and castrated like Germany after WW2. This is not something Ukraine can accept, so they're forced to fight.

Putin is an old man from a different time. So here we are. Waiting for baldie to die from natural causes.

>>509997756
In Hegel’s version of history he saw ancient Germans as most free as contrasted to the despotic Persians (one king rules all) and the half free half slave Greeks (free citizens have rights). Germans may have had chieftains or social roles but everyone was guaranteed rights in ways which others at the time weren’t.

>>509995946
seems like the point is that you are russian, not ''ukranian''

>>510008212
I guess you are right. That was perhaps a poor example. But my point was that you don't have to be fully jewish to be their servant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbos_goy

>>509995813
>seething
>>509995807
>thinking

>>510004252
>century

more like a millenia

>>510008344
> Eastern Ukraine wants to integrate with Russia.
Eastern Ukraine wanted to join EU

>>509999214
>it was not the armed goons controlling everything who were at fault
>it surely was the 80IQ peasants who had 0% control over the narrative and their lifes who were at fault, I trust the goons
dumb nigger.
youre so fucking retarded you should kill yourself. these peasants had the excuse of being random oinks in what was basically medieval europe tech wise. you, however, are a lowlife by choice.

>>510008344
It has nothing to do with Putin. He is just doing what Russians want. Russia lost a lot of prestige in the 90s when they collapsed and it hurt their ego badly. Conquering Ukraine would have healed some of that pain. But it failed, because Russians are legendarily incompetent as always. If Putin croaks, the next guy will be exactly the same. Russians WANT this war. They fucking love it. They're not the first country starting to believe their own lies.

Westoid have this naive believe that the so called ukraine is a hecking valid and real nation with an ancient history even though their entire history is just being part of Russia.
Random European provinces have centuries old-history and their own, actual language (unlike "ukrainian") yet they're not chimping out and pretending to be their own countries.

>>509995529 (OP)
Because of enemies, you need a king.

>>510008968
How is that not their own history?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27

It doesn't get more ancient than 1000 years until we are talking about China or some shit.

>>510008902
>Why did they randomly decide to fight each other to the death? It's kind of depressing
>31 post later
>Russians WANT this war. They fucking love it.

Shillnigger lol

>>510009021
>kievan rus
>ukraine
In what way are those two things related at all?

>>510009040
I mean, he is acting sus, but in general the question "Why do you want to kill them" and statement "You WANT this" arent necessarily in contradiciton, no?
Why do you want to kill them?

>>510007599
The very close personal friendship between Nicholas II and Wilhelm II was unable to stop the chain reaction of alliances triggered by the issues between Austria and Serbia, which each empire supported for reasons of ethnicity, religion, and geopolitics, nor could it halt the war machines that had already begun to roll according to pre-planned schedules within each empire.
To attribute this to their being "psychological jews" is somewhat harsh. The status and power of monarchs, as well as the states they governed, were vastly different from the feudal era. Defining them as "deniers of nationalism" is also a one-sided assessment.
Prussia's "Lesser Germany" policy and the Hohenzollern unification of Germany were both heavily influenced by the nationalism that was emerging at the time.

>>510009077
Are you just acting retarded or are you genuinely retarded?

>how is the capital of Ukraine Kiev related to that ancient nation named Kievan Rus?

>>509995529 (OP)
>>509995529 (OP)
>>509995529 (OP)
>> AN INVADED NATION BY BOLSHEVIK JEWS IS NOW BEST FRIENDS WITH THE FALLEN STATE CALLED RUSSIA
>> RUSSIA WAS ALREADY RUN BY JEWS WITH FAKE NAMES SINCE 1919

LOL. LMAO. TURKISH OP IN GERMANY IS RATHER CONFUSED. 40% OF ZOOMERS CANNOT READ. LMAO.

>>510008536
Of course.

>>509996775
>>509996775
>>509996775
50% OF RUSSIA
AREN'T EVEN SLAVIC
YOU'RE TALKING TO A TARTAR OR CHECHEN XD

>>510009383
You're a hohol troon shill, got it.

>>509995946
>>509995946
>>509995946

>>510009548
Not an argument

>>510009430
Don't exaggerate.

>>509995529 (OP)
No, never.
Ukraine became independent as the Russian Empire collapsed during WW1's revolution. The USSR then immediately invaded Ukraine and brutally destroyed its statehood, demolished much of the country and started a famine as punishment for 'resisting'

When the Nazis invaded Ukraine, they were welcomed as liberators, but this tone soured since the Nazis treated the Ukrainians as badly as the USSR did, eventually leading to organized Ukrainian resistance against them. When the USSR retook Ukraine, the Ukrainians were punished once again.

They spent the entire cold war seething and fomenting nationalist movements, but lacked the strength to break away from the USSR until it collapsed.

In 1991, Ukraine and Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum, a formal agreement recognizing that both sides would let bygones be bygones and coexist peacefully, in exchange for Ukraine disarming the nuclear arsenal it inherited from the Soviet Union.

Russia chose to unilaterally violate the Budapest Memorandum in 2014 because its dictator has delusions of empire-building. It came back in 2022 to finish the job. Ukrainians just don't want to live as cattle under a russian dictatorship anymore.

>>510008536
>>510008536
>>510008536
CORRECT
EVANGELICALS ARE SHABBOS GOYIM
70,000,000 IN AMERICA, THE BIGGEST VOTING BLOCK.

KEK

>>510008347
Possibly in the late era, but when the (primarily Germanic) barbarians destroyed the Roman empire, some of the most despotic governments followed. It was probably the biggest disaster in human history. If Rome didn't fall, where would we be today?

>>510008344
>>510008344
>>510008344
SENILE OLD KGB COLONEL
ATTEMPTING TO PUT THE USSR BACK TOGETHER IN THE 11TH HOUR OF HIS LIFESPAN

LOL. LMAO. 1,000,000 RUSSIANS GONE FOR A SENILE OLD MAN'S AMBITIONS.

BYE BYE RICH PEOPLE IN RUSSIA
3-4 OLIGARCHS DEAD OR ARRESTED THIS WEEK ALONE.
KEK. PIGS ARE GETTING CHOPPED UP.

>>510009776
>>510009776
>>510009776
ARE
YOU
RETARDED???

ONYL 40% OF AMERICA IS WHITE
ONLY 50-60% OF RUSSIA IS WHITE

YOU SILLY INCEL. YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE WHITE NATIONS. HAH.

NEXT THIS DUMB NIGGER
IS GOING TO SAY THE BALKANS ARE WHITE

BOSNIANS AREN'T WHITE XD

>they're not even getting paid for it anymore

>>510009829
It's amazing how 2 nations with languages that are 80% identical, can not be friends.

>>510009829
>No, never.
This is wrong though. Ukrainian cossacks helped Russians against Napoleon. You are just a dividing kike.

>>510010107
>>510010107
>>510010107
HELLO TERMINAL DECLINE NATION
YOU'RE
SIMILAR TO THE ITALIANS XD

>>509998921
No Dutchman in their right mind would be as emotionally invested in this foreign conflict as you are
Go home natonigger

>>509995529 (OP)
russia ruled by hohols and jews

hohols rules by jews, asians (turks) and russians

Think about it.
>>509995813
kys

>>509996316
>Rus moved it's capital multiple times
no, stupid.

>>509996316
>Novgorod
was liberals, anti rus

>>509996765
This guy is cyber warrior -
>>509995813

Cyber warriors work on rus Gov.of them exists. Putin recently confirmed that 60k

>>509995529 (OP)
Ah the good ole 'I'm an uninformed child and I have an innocent question' gas light. Go DIAF you fucking cunt.

>>510010397
In the first place, isn't it rare for "Ukrainians" not to cooperate in the wars of the Russian Empire? Unlike Poles, for example, with the exception of high-ranking officers, it was simply they were rarely distinguished from Russians in historical records.
I believe that nationalism in the form of rediscovering Ukraine's unique identity from Kievan Rus' has only become widespread relatively recently. Even if it existed, it was limited to some form of regionalism at best.

>>510011283
Seethe some more faggot. I'm trying to be neutral and see all points of views. I'm not biased like you.

>>510011366
Are you saying Ukrainians were slaves for the Russian empire?

>>510011366
There was no such thing as a "Ukranian" nation, the area was called Wild Fields and Cossacks were indepentist minded but would sometimes ally with the czar

And when they got too uppity czar would punish them harshly, like after Mazepa's betrayal during Swedish invasion. History is replaying itself now in a tragicomical fashion because Ukrainians are Russians but peasant version and stupid + stubborn like a donkey

Modern Hrukraine is pathetic, they ignore stuff like Khmelnitsky who revolted againt Polish masters and Shevchenko and promote subhumans like Shukhevich, Klyachkivsky and Bandera

>>510011710
Probably no, I think they generally thought of themselves as Russians, and the Tatar larper' Cossacks who advanced from southern Russia into the steppes of Ukraine are a rather exceptional case.

>>510011366
""Ukraine"" identity lies in its name, they are really borderlanders in a deep sense. Also they are Russians with a Muslim like characteristic, they are more oriental than Russians

Ukraine was an uncivilized area for much of Russian history, with roaming gangs of Turkic and Tatar nomad tribes . Even a big chunk of Western Ukraine who like claim being pinnacle or Aryan master race was at some point either under direct Turkish Ottoman control or a vassal

>>510011651
>'m trying to be neutral and see all points of views
If that was true you should have googled for Banderas, Operation Gehlen and the CIA, and the billions of dollars spent in Ukraine by US even before Maidan. Unbiased view my arse. Dumbass.

HAIL
VICTORY
OR VALHALLA

B L O O D
H O N O R
S O I L
ᛟᛉᛋ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNuw42EQsnE
A Z O V --- MADE IN UKRAINE [285K]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmYYQH8PaGE
KOST GORDIYENKO [870K]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GrVbNkVHx0 [350K]
U K R A I N E W A V E

HAIL AZOV
HAIL KRAKEN
HAIL AFU // VOLUNTEERS

>>510009829
You know considering hohol worldview where land today is worth more than 50 mln hohol lives you should really praise USSR. They gave you shitload of land from polish west ukraine to crimea. It's all worth it in the long run right.

>>510013546
>They gave you shitload of land from polish west ukraine to crimea.
Seems fair, considering Ukraines gigantic contribution in WW2. The majority of that massive war happened in Ukraine. Only a small part of Russia was touched by it, while almost the entirety of Ukraine was experiencing the apocalypse.

All this proves is that Russians are backstabbing niggers. A nation literally contributed 30-50% to your victory and you try to rob them like a nigger robbing some innocent neighbor.

>>509995529 (OP)
>they
I notice you're framing this like it wasn't russia unilaterally starting this by taking chunks of their land and then outrigh invading them .