So you don't believe in climate change, eh?

Why is it that banks saying things like, "we are now expecting a 3 degree celsius world"?
>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/big-banks-quietly-prepare-for-catastrophic-climate-change/

Why is it that actuaries are planning for climate change?
>https://actuaries.org.uk/media/g1qevrfa/climate-scorpion.pdf
>https://actuaries.org.uk/media/qeydewmk/the-emperor-s-new-climate-scenarios_ifoa_23.pdf

Why is it deniers can't explain increasing global temperatures? Some will say it's the sun, but they can't produce any models or predictions of just how much the sun will raise temperatures over the near term or the long term. Where are the hard predictions by deniers over the past 10-20 years? Why not hold them to account?

Deniers also claim scientists are just after the money, yet they refuse to acknowledge that such an accusation would apply just as much -- if not more -- to oil and gas corporations that are legally obligated to try to make a profit.

In short the climate is warming, and CO2 and methane are responsible for that warming, and the warming that is yet to come. Everyone accepts it except shills and schizos.

>>510018062 (OP)
i do not give a shit about the climate hoax

I've never denied climate change, I just don't care. I have one life on this Earth and I won't waste it counting how much I've farted today.

>>510018371
You should deny climate change, it's clearly a new-age religion masquerading as science.

>>510018337
in other words you don't give a shit about holding accurate beliefs about climate change.
>>510018371
there are all sorts of things that are out of our power to change, doesn't mean we shouldn't aim to hold accurate beliefs about them

>>510018062 (OP)
We have climate deniers because white conservative high school diploma retards have never heard of an ice core

>>510018062 (OP)
> the Roman empire never had drought!!
> ITS THE HUMANS!!!!!
> DONT LOOK AT THE SUN CYCLES!!!!
> DONT LOOK AT OUR WEAKENING MAGNETIC PROTECTION!!!!
> BELIEVE THE VAXPERTS!!!!!!
kek
why are you posting that kind of thread here

>>510018481
I can recognize new-age religious tropes in much of environmentalism. Doesn't mean the description of what is happening is false. It might mean we disagree strongly with some of the proposed solutions. But it's for that reason exactly I wish the right would engage in the debate around appropriate responses rather than abandoning the field to mother-nature worshipping cooks.

>>510018530
> in other words you don't give a shit about holding accurate beliefs about climate change.

in other words, if you care so much the best thing you could do for the planet is to kys

>>510018530
i repeat i don't give a shit about the climate hoax you dumb jewish pajeet
if you care so much go and screech about oil companies

>>510018696
I don't waste my time on strawman arguments. If you want to provide evidence that it is the sun or magnetic field, please go ahead
>>510018745
I never said I care about the planet. I care about the quality of life for me, my family and friends.

>>510018062 (OP)
The earth has always undergone extreme temperature changes retard.

>>510018754
no, I think I'll calmly post here and watch you cope and seethe

>>510018062 (OP)
There is climate change.
It is entirely natural, and there's no emergency.
It's all designed for money and control.
Restictive laws, higher (climate) tax, control over fuels, gasses, manufacturing, etc.

>>510018062 (OP)
I don't know if manmade climate change is real or not, but we should probably end modern industrialized human civilization just in case
https://rumble.com/vlrjqq-beyond-thunderborg.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_v

>>510018062 (OP)
>Everyone accepts it except shills and schizos.
It doesn't matter. Accepting it or not doesn't change the climate. You behave like a religion.

>>510018062 (OP)
>you don't believe in climate change
Leafanon, climate change is cyclical in nature, which has nothing to do with man, but the Jews are trying to make money even from these changes - that's the problem!

>>510018934
>>510018974
the shills don't reply to any of the arguments in OP, they just cope and seethe... what a surprise

>>510018062 (OP)
>hard predictions .. over the past 10-20 years?
Lol you have some nerve coming in here with 'predictions'. For over 30 years now your climatard predictions have all been false. You fuckwits predicted the end of the world for 2005 already. And then again for 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 and in between lmao. Go eat a dick and stfu dumbass.

>>510019028
I strongly disagree with this sentiment. it is yet another straw man.
>>510019071
I don't behave at all like a religion. I aim to make my beliefs accurate
>>510019072
please address the arguments in OP. There is no explanation for the data based simply on "it's cyclical." That's not an accurate hypothesis.

>>510018062 (OP)
what warming? lmao

>>510019326
You're actually wrong. The climate has continued to warm over 30 years as CO2 and methane in the atmosphere has continued to go up. Last year we passed 1.5C of warming over land and water. No alternative hypothesis has come anywhere close to explaining this warming, or the warming anticipated over the coming decades

>>510019331
>That's not an accurate hypothesis
aaand ur hypothesis is accurate, ha JEW?

>>510018905
> I don't waste my time on strawman arguments.
aka
> I WILL ASK FOR COUNTLESS OF PROOFS AND I WILL STILL DENY IT
It is crazy how some people need no proof to believe a lie but demand endless never ending proof to accept the truth

> If you want to provide evidence that it is the sun or magnetic field, please go ahead
there are countless of them online, you could have perfectly researched them if you actually did research on your climate change (yes the climate change... but not what the reason you think about) you could have easily find them
So it is very very clear that you're just repeating words and opinions from other people, that you're copy/pasting urls of things that you don't really understand the why and the how, nor how it is measured and if it is actually a good thing
You're just a mindless cattle that heard sounds arguments and you went with it without REALLY questioning anything

If you can't even question your own beliefs then it's a pure propaganda, nor real convictions

>I never said I care about the planet. I care about the quality of life for me, my family and friends.
I get it, same here, but nothing that you will do will change anything, we're in a wild ride, it's going to get worse until the real event happens, then it will require a recovery period.

our oligarchy knows about it, money went into it, thats why trillions of dollar is missing, clearly if you don't want to do your fucking work as a citizen like 95% of the people, you won't make it at the next cycle. You're half dead already and you don't know it.

>>510018062 (OP)
oh look the weather changes

>>510019538
you argue like a child. anything you don't want to accept is a jewish lie.

its real but like everything else they are using very antiquated propaganda which people are not as gullible to fall for any more. saying everyone is going to die in 5 years is actually harmful to their own movement. at the same time they want that sort of urgency because government moves so slow and they have to get things under control.


its also probably mostly not going to directly kill people its just going to displace lots of people and cause wars and genocides because nobody wants literal millions of refugees from poor countries loading up social systems with 0 fault tolerance

also naturally the ruling class will still have all the luxuries they want and need and its up to you to do your part and live in a 400 sq foot ultra high density housing unit with no vehicle eating grains
anyway thats just my take on all of it. people polarize too much one way or the other and come to retarded conclusions. that itself is a side effect of propaganda.


Ummm soo like... Walkable cities now and Fuck Cars!

>>510018062 (OP)
>In short the climate is warming
Is it? Compared to what? And how long will it warm for?
>CO2 and methane are responsible for that warming
Are you sure about that? Got any proof?

BTW, did you consider that the earth has negative feedback mechanisms (as proven by the fact that runaway climate change hasn't already occurred)?

>>510019549
Post some hard predictions made over the last 30 years that explain the data. You have nothing.

>>510019627
No, but somehow I'm pretty shure ure a JEW !!!

>>510019535
I'm actually right and you know it, you dumb cunt. Almost all of the typical climate change predictions overshot the real warming by a factor of 3-5, sometimes even more. That is not half-right. It's dead wrong especially if you want to argue the whole world will burn. Fuck off.

>>510018062 (OP)
I've been hearing about this catasthropic climate change for my entire life now and so far fuck all has happened other then some summers were pretty warm I guess (sometime not all the time tho)? I'm gonna need to see some catastrophic shit happening after 30 years of edging. Until that happens I'm just not gonna care is all. No hard feelings tho.

Is this sea rise in the room with us

>>510019754
i don't care pal
you did zero research and you don't know nor can't explain what you try to preach

>>510019137
Because the op is fucking around and baiting, the sea level hasn't risen a fucking foot. The best they can pretend is a few centimeters and even that is probably bullshit.