Thread 510073049

What are the chances that the US and its allies can hold out against an all out Chinese offensive in Taiwan?

>>510073049 (OP)
Zero, unless nuclear is on the table. No way US can maintain supply lines or air superiority off the coast of China.

>>510073049 (OP)
will be difficult.
1st priority should be air defense.

Very low. What's the number at the other number ? Even with extreme asymmetrical warfare population will become the issue. I don't see strikes in China. I see them in the sea.

>>510073049 (OP)
>bu-bu-but our drone shows
EMPs, nigger. The grass will speak English in Taiwan if you start shit. That's the one war I might actually volunteer for, unless we're going to suddenly fuck up Israel (we won't, we're Jewish puppets).

>>510073049 (OP)
Shut the fuck up or we'll drop #3

Near zero, but we can make it costly enough to not be worth taking. Imagine wanting it for its manufacturing hub or to make your country look strong and powerful only to fight a war that damages every building beyond repair and makes you look like a paper tiger while you struggle to overcome everything… and in the end your economy is hurt more from the sanctions than it is rewarded from the extra land…. Only worth taking if you have a deeply held ideological belief that is worth sacrificing lives and economies over.

>>510073180
Nukes aren’t real, we will just flood you bugs and microwave popcorn while you eat each other’s chitin.
We will make movies about how sad doing it it made us though.
Best of luck, wumao

zero
and no one is going to help taiwan with their own forces
it's no different to ukraine, except it'll be impossible to supply taiwan, so they'll fold quicker

Did you see what we did in Iran? Arguably the most flawlessly executed military strike of all time. I think we can handle it.

>>510073320
>>510073300
>>510073180
>ZERO ZERO ZERO
listen Chang you if you were going to win so easily you would have done it in 2022 truth is you waited way to fucking long Iran and the axis of resistance is dead Russia is weaker then ever and only north Korea and you stand a chance tough luck

>>510073340
its not they waited so long no only did their enemies die their allies did too

>>510073049 (OP)
Zero, but a Chinese pyrrhic victory would hurt more than pur loss.

>>510073049 (OP)
Taiwan is completely btfo'd in any scenario that involves direct US intervention. Even if the US save the day against China the Island would be a smouldering ruin. There literally isn't a net positive win-con in that situation for the Taiwanese.

>>510073395
>what are the chances
>give answer
>dont like answer
>chang
Please kys randjeet

>>510073049 (OP)
I might have seen your video somewhere else...I just can't remember where...

>>510073049 (OP)
Really high given there is water between Taiwan and the mainland. This requires boats to cross which can be sunk.

>>510073049 (OP)
You tell me, Pvt. Jefferson-Gomez.

>>510073049 (OP)
chinas got a good thing going. with america falling into fascism they have become the world's sweetheart. they won't fumble that

Taiwanese generals are dumb and spend all their money on warships and fighter jets, stuff that will get knocked out straight away by China's larger force. They should have spent it on drones, mobile SAMs, trained divers and other asymmetric tactics. They did buy some drones but they're also trying to get F35 IIRC.
IMO it won't matter because this will end with Chinese subversion of their government and a takeover like Hong Kong's.

>>510073049 (OP)
they won't try. If Taiwan gets taken it will be bloodlessly

>>510073049 (OP)
Both sides are scared of damaging the local infrastructure and that is about it and the US is not capable of defending it but will surely blow everything up if China finally grows a pair.

>>510073049 (OP)
I thought that was oumuamua

>>510073049 (OP)
Strong enough that China hasn't done it yet.

>>510073770
OOOH DA EVRIL WEST VIL FRALL BEFORE MIGTHY CHYNA

if china can't take a small island that's right on their doorstep, I don't know what to tell you

it's more a matter of is it worth the economic and diplomatic costs for china because they'd effectively be isolated from everyone except maybe russia for the next 50 years

>>510073049 (OP)
Why would there be a Chinese offensive?
It would require a Western Powers false flag.

>>510073571
Wouldn't the entire world summarily turn against China for doing it? We can talk about total war all day, but the US, even as completely fucked as it is, would turn China to rubble. And that's without using the nuclear option.

>>510074097
nigga LOL the
>west always false flags trust me !11!!!!
doesn't work when China themselves has said they will unify with force if needed

>>510073049 (OP)
Even the Chinese aren't prepared for four million casualties and that's a conservative estimate. It's not like the Taiwanese aren't prepared.

>>510074148
US would crumble from within.

>>510074013
China isn't a war mongering nation, hellbent on killing millions for kikes.

>>510074253
except for Vietnam and Tibet of course

>>510073049 (OP)
>>510073180
They are actually high. The US doesn't have to get near China. They will send their fleet to choke points like the Malacca strait and do an embargo against China. China will have to come out and meet the US to break the blockade so that they can keep importing resources. This is the same playbook the US followed against Japan before WW2.

>>510073049 (OP)
I mean US can send their soldiers there to test out. Japan will surely help them. I think the anti-Japan hatred will raise so high that China will use nuke on Japan or something like that.

>>510074357
>Embargo

Why would US embargo their own goods from China? That’s not making any sense.

>>510073049 (OP)
if China tries that any time soon they'll out themselves as a bigger paper tiger than Russia.
except once their fleet gets blown up, they won't even be able to send meat waves in for minimal gains. they'll be reduced to impotently shooting missiles at Taiwan as they get bombed to pieces by the US navy

>>510074180
Buddy, even our niggers beat the shit out of Chinese people for fun. Militarized deployment for crucial infrastructure is an obvious strategy when you have clear fifth-column elements in your country.

Go back to your monkey soup, if your electrified shower can heat the water enough in your favela.

>>510073306
>>510073300
Juan, you know before that you will be expelled right?

>>510073340
Kek, Iran doesn’t have air defense yet you still lost. Israel can’t even defend from those rpg missiles anymore. How can US win before going economically collapse?

>>510074449
Explain me why China don’t shoot missiles into the US mainland directly instead of Taiwan when US is shooting their fleet?

>>510074357
>>510074442
Also, PRC China isn't an island, Taiwan is though.

>>510073049 (OP)
Why would the chinese fire missiles into their own landing zones? retarded animation. The missiles are clearly coming from the Chinese unless those are Taiwanese boats landing the chinese troops.

>>510074454
The biggest fifth-column is inside the U and ready to act.

>>510074454
>All bark no action

Why you cucks don’t enlist? Expect niggers to do the jobs for you

The moment general Zhang launches first paratrooper deployment to Taiwan you'll see this.

>>510073803
this was before diversity hires were put in all the command positions

>>510074604
PRC can embargo Taiwan. Taiwan will surrender for sure. How is that embargo on China helping US win except getting into a direct war with China?

>>510074449
China beats the US in a conventional war on their turf. The scale of China is so huge. Including their ability to manufacture. The US is a gnat next to them.

US probably beats China in a nuke war or in the deep ocean.

>>510074161
Threats to save face is not the same thing as an actual threat.
There will be no invasion of Taiwan without escalating provocations.

>>510073049 (OP)
The US does not have allies, they have captives

>>510073049 (OP)
0 even with nuclear

>>510074722
You think China doesn’t have their existential crisis issues of when Russia and US and Japan and EU and Middle East and India all use nukes towards them? China is a communist Chinese country. They surely made the worst assumption in every case. They would literal destroy the whole world when a nuclear war happened. That’s why they are desperately developing hypersonic missiles.

>>510073049 (OP)
The Republic of China (Taiwan) was formed from the Nationalists in China. They fought and died against the Japanese while the faggot commies hid in the mountains. Then, after the war, the faggot commies came down and attacked the severely depleted nationalists from behind.
From the very day of it's birth the (exiled) Republic of China has known the "People's" Republic of China intended to harm them. They have had 75+ years to fortify that island. There are bunkers, tunnels, and stashes of weaponry everywhere. EVERY SINGLE BEACH is set up to be a "Normandy Style" death trap (x1000). And it's practically an open secret that they have chemical, biological, and most probably, nuclear weapons as a last resort.

>>510073049 (OP)
high. i mean just look at the island.

>>510073049 (OP)
look at all of that spread invading 3 points of the island at the same time, looks like a potential ukraine 2.0 i bet the chinks will have like 100x the losses the russians in ukraine
MOTHERFUCK

>>510075120
Not really. The fact I think the death number will be very small because Taiwan actually wants to be part of China. They all speak Chinese and are the same race. Meanwhile Ukrainians and Russians aren’t.

>>510075213
lmfao tard. holy fuck what a retard lmao

>>510073049 (OP)
China is friends with Trump.
They love each other. They hate you and me.

>>510073049 (OP)
This is never going to happen, brainlets. Nobody with any power wants it to happen, in fact the only people who want it to happen are Chinese incels who don't actually want to do the fighting themselves. Unfortunately for their larping fantasies, the global supply chain is deliberately set up to prevent it and the Chinese leadership is not allowed to do it even if they wanted to (which they don't).
The direction of travel is obviously one world government with gradually more of everything openly subsumed by that. Best case scenario for Chinese incels is that China and Taiwan are ultimately part of the same economic zone in the new world order (they already sort of are in practice).

>>510074642
>American flag
>simping for zog
Many such cases.

>>510073049 (OP)
Zero. We cant do shit vs 10000 dudes with rusty ak47s, sandals and home made firecrackers. It's the same why jewkraine can't win. It's impossible. The numbers, weapons and tactics make it impossible. The bug people could literally human wave with ww1 tactics and sabers and over run us by sheer numbers alone.

>>510073049 (OP)
I'm surprised it hasn't happened already, the U.S. is so fucking weak right now. If JD Vance succeeds Trump and goes full jeet flood mode like Trudeau, the U.S. is basically over and China could invade America and white people would probably defect to the CCP, let alone China's ability to take Taiwan lmao

>>510073049 (OP)
Easy, just give Taiwan nukes. It’s that simple

>>510073049 (OP)
none. That's why the actor chosen for the plot is consolidating close to home.

Hold Out? All we have to do is sink their barge Ships or Blow up TSMC and we Win. Hold out. right now Israel is Chynas best fren as most of our defenses are going there.

>>510073049 (OP)
>russia : incompetent
>iran : hot air and incompetent
>north korea : lol
lmao everyone on the chinese bloc got exposed for being a fraud ,what makes you think china, the most lying pretending stealing corner cutting out of them all will be any different let alone on the hardest type of invasion

>>510073049 (OP)
Who cares, just bomb the factories flat and let China keep the ashes. I doubt that China's stupid enough to upset its biggest customer though.

>>510073049 (OP)
The Chinese won't attack Taiwan because they're highly dependent on trade with the US for their economic prosperity. Attacking Taiwan would be an enormous act of economic suicide and for zero benefit.
The US probably wants them to invade Taiwan and are baiting them in the same way that they baited the Russians but the Chinese are far more pragmatic.

>>510073049 (OP)
>flying the plane over the entirety of the island and landing on the other side
hmmmmm

>>510082045
yeah, sure thing, buddy

>>510084234
I don't know what a picture of what America produces has to do with what I said.

>>510073049 (OP)
Fuck off, I'm not dying for Taiwan