Thread 510074232

https://asianews.network/us-president-trump-ramps-up-pressure-on-south-korea-with-defence-spending/
>A Seoul Foreign Ministry official emphasized that the 12th Special Measures Agreement (SMA) for 2026-2030, signed under former US President Joe Biden, should be upheld, ensuring South Korea pays 1.52 trillion won ($1.1 billion) in 2026 for US Forces Korea (USFK) costs, up from 1.4 trillion won. This statement follows US President Donald Trump's pressure on South Korea to increase its contribution for the 28,500 US troops stationed there, claiming Seoul pays "very little" and falsely asserting Biden reduced contributions to "nothing." Trump also announced 25% tariffs on South Korean products starting August 1, 2025, after a 90-day pause, prompting Seoul to propose a "package deal" combining trade, security, and economic issues. National Security Adviser Wi Sung-lac suggested an early summit with Trump to negotiate, amid concerns Trump may demand South Korea increase defense spending to 5% of GDP, as he has with NATO allies.

FYI, South Korea's national defense budget for 2025 is approximately 61.59 trillion South Korean won (about $46.3 billion USD).

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Ok, so what does this mean

>>510074232 (OP)
Is trump retarded? First japan and now south korea, does he just want china to win?

>>510074352

It means that you created the biggest mess this world has ever seen and now you cant afford to pay the bills anymore.

>>510074232 (OP)
>over-taxation was a major issue in the late Roman Empire, and it played a significant role in its decline.

>>510074352
trump is selling off your empire in exchange for temporary domestic political wins with his MAGA base
by the end of his term nothing of american power will be left and it wont ever return
youre just another country among many but with trillions of dollars of debt

>>510074232 (OP)
Good luck alienating Japan and SK in mere weeks you fat orange retard. It only took decades of foreign politics for America to secure reliable partners in that region.

What’s the big deal? You should be happy that all that investment and labour is being properly compensated.

>>510074390
>Is trump retarded?
Now know why they call you jungle monkeys

>>510074455
>inb4 in some freak twist US-Economy collapses in the next two years and the military sets up a provisional government and refuses to bow to the state
>somehow this convinces Merz that Germany has to pick up the slack
>WE start WW3 (against Russia)
it's all so tiresome

>>510074455
so america will finally go back to isolationism

>>510074232 (OP)
Let's dismantle all the favors these countries give us by allowing us to be there in the first fucking place.
This guy is so fucking retarded

>>510074498
you are an actual baby man buffoon with small wrists and soft hands.
no wonder you post faggot ideas about unreality.
you do not know much.

very retarded

>>510074573
Yep and it worked out great the last time too.

>>510074611
>1pbtid jew projecting this hard
suck start a shotgun you worthless nigger

>>510074561
this is not why, meme flaggot. But do me a favor and answer me, is he stupid?

>>510074232 (OP)
I love Trump, he's collapsing the empire before my eyes

>>510074455
And the entire world will be better off for it, including the average American if they finally lynch their money printers.

>>510074232 (OP)
>Trump demands $10 Billion a year for US presence in Korea

I wonder how many millions is he planning to funnel into his pockets from those Billions

South Korea will probably tell them to fuck off then lol

>>510074232 (OP)
How to lose an ally to China award

>>510074561
pajeet coward behind meme flag

why do they even need 28k troops there, it's so retarded, N. Korea has not made attempt to finish the war.

They are so technologically behind they would get pounded

>>510074455
As long as I have long enough time to properly repent in a true orthodox parish before death, I don't care.

shooting up the NPT in east asia kk

>>510074567
no freak twist needed
the US bond market nearly collapsed earlier this year already
it isnt off the table
>>510074685
the world will be better off but americans might starve by the millions and they will be completely defenseless because they wont be able to finance their military either
a kind of post soviet collapse is very possible

>>510074785
they can't just tell them to fuck off while china exists unless they have decided they have to switch allegiances, they will have to pay and remember the grudge. South Korea owes their existence to the USA and have been their grestest asian allies for decades, I really don't get why he would just do this

>>510074400
>>510074455
>>510074498
whats wrong with getting worst korea to pay 5%? everyone in europe agreed to that already and if they had done it since trumps first term, russia would have already been fully repealed.

and what am i missing? what trump is asking doesnt seem unreasonable considering how much China is spending or how fast they're arming. its money for their defense

>>510074681
its an empire that costs us an arm and a leg, which we're now getting no benefits from and which is actually helping our enemies (china and russia). if we fully pulled back, russia and china would go to war AFAIC

>>510074232 (OP)
>tenant demands rent from landlord

>>510074232 (OP)
Wish I was there to see it

Never mind that the US supported dictatorships for decades in SK and maintain their presence in SK via tons of propaganda

>>510074930
>South Korea owes their existence to the USA
this. people have no idea how much it cost america in lives and money to repeal the chicoms and il gooks so south korea could exist.
ive met some korean war vets and they're pretty messed up to this day. i met one and the war still seems to be all he thinks about 50 years later. one of the first things he told me was that the war messed him up. on the flip side my moms boyfriend met a guy who fought for the north and he admitted to kill more white americans than he could count. crazy world

>>510074955
the point is that all these NATO and maintenance costs for American bases are direct taxes to the American military only. These budgets will be eaten by your bureaucratic apparat on steel bolts that costs $500 each.

UKRAINE HAS PROVEN THAT THE MUTT IS UNRELIABLE AND A BACKSTABBER! HE WILL START A WAR AND EXPECT THE LOCALS TO DO THE FIGHTING FOR THEM!!

DON'T FALL FOR THE BLUFF!! KOREA!

RUN THOSE YANKEE MAFIA FREE MASONIC EXTORTIONISTS OUT OF KOREA, KIMCHI!!
SHOW THEM NO MERCY!!

>>510074232 (OP)
Trump is an idiot. He’s going to turn all of America’s allies against him

>>510075162
we forget the other side has killers and heroes too, its a messed up world indeed. That happened less than a decade after the most fucked up traumatizing event in human history

>>510074352
US empire is bleeding and Trump is trying to stop the bleeding.

>>510075060
>Never mind that the US supported dictatorships for decades in SK
That was based though. SK should go back to being an anti-communist dictatorship

>>510074955
Becus South Korea could just spend 0.1% of GDP on refining nukes (yes nukes are expensive but SK already has 26 reactors and it's literally a by product to turn it into red mercury) for a single year just like North Korea, instead of having to buy a 5% yearly subscription.

>>510074352
trump not only effectively destroyed your economy but also destroyed relationships with it's global allies which are crucial for american military to "project power" on a global scale. basically trump is killing the smerican empire. us dollars will be worthless if he doesn't stop.

>>510074817
Based beyond belief

>>510074498
>partners
They are American colonies where niggers get to rape and murder their women and children free of charge.

>>510074955
your global power projection depends on your allies. technically you want to keep those bases and troops everywhere. so technically it is in your interest to sit in a foreign country.

President of the USA is basically a shitty low-rate mob thug now. How do Amerifats even feel about that? I'd probably be so embarrassed I'd kill myself. But I doubt Miggers are capable of anything beyond copeposting and shitting in their diapers.

>>510075352
This. The current govt let commies take over so fuck em

>>510074232 (OP)
1.1 billion dollars for 28.500 trannies is already too much. Every Korean man is better trained than American soldier. They just want useless Americans to shield them.

>>510075476
Theotokos save us

>>510074930
For SK it's a rock and a hard place, their economy isn't the best either since 10% of all of it is Samsung, and tech doesn't look all too promising for the future when the biggest consoomer market ever begins to die.
Japan is also getting increasingly pissed, and both of them together with China HAVE ALREADY been in talks.
The diamond-strategy to contain china (SK, JP, Vietnam, India) is also a crapshot thanks to BRICS. The alliances just don't work out as planned, and SK and JP are smelling the big poopy in the room.

>>510074930
>>510075162
They want the US out so they can build nukes and also signal back to NORKS that the unification is back on (but will never happen in our lifetimes). This has been the conversation in Korea for the past 5 years now.

>>510075554
Yeah, no one is responding too well to these Jewish mafia shakedown tactics.

PAY USA TO HAVE THEIR NIGGER MUT SOLDIERS RAPE KOREAN WOMEN AND DO FUCK ALL

>>510074955
South Korea is not some declawed euro country that expects the US to come save it. The ROK has mandatory conscription for every single male and every aspect of their government and infrastructure is designed around a potential round two with Kim. Every year they practice that scenario not just with their entire military (who do it twice a year) but also their entire civil government, look up "Ulchi Freedom Shield."
They already spend an enormous portion of their own defense budget on us. Camp Humphreys is one of the largest military installations on the planet and most of the cost of running it comes from the ROK already. They've been giving us over a billion dollars a year, what the fuck is Trump trying to punish them for?
Our only shot at not losing spectacularly to China in the Pacific is to have solid backup and basing from allies, and his retarded tantrums have alienated all of them and gained nothing from it.

>>510075341
*US empire is bleeding because Trump is stabbing it over and over

>>510074390
“South” Korea wouldn’t even exist if it wasn’t for US bases there. Have you seen their “army” kek

>>510075958
Trump lied about releasing Epstein Files

Trump lied about ending the war in Ukraine

Trump lied about being a President of peace bombing Iran

>>510074232 (OP)
Jesus it's like kraft donald doesn't comprehend that the US hegemony *requires* this military empire of color-revolution and invasion-mandated friendly governments. Take the troops out of your international bases and you have no empire, then people might actually decide to cast off this jewish usury and just collectively attack Israel in retaliation for debt slavery.

>>510075967
That sounds like an America problem

>>510075818
Of course the german throws shade on the koreans now that they are a competitor in weapons sales. the poland tank deal that big of a sore spot? lol Also, saying samsung is 10% of korea's gdp is like saying Siemens is 10% of Germany's GDP.

But anyway, the thing about Korea and Japan is they both want the US out. Times have changed, the US is dying out. They want peace in their region and having the US all over the region isn't helping the situation. Even the North Korea tensions is largely due to US presence in the region.

Mark my words, if the US withdraws from Korea, Korea will build the nuke and then this will absolutely trigger Japan to demand the same.


The US is dying and I'm an American. I honestly don't want us to be involved in anyones conflict and I want to keep americans alive. other countries can fight their own battles.

The big picture you all here don't realize is that both Korea and Japan were able to use money that they would otherwise have to spend on their military to boot their tech sectors. This allowed them to grow up fast and eventually rival the US.

I'm tired of indirectly subsidizing other countries prosperity.

>>510075947
At this point it would honestly be better for SK and NK to bury the hatchet and unite to fuck the US over in revenge for 60 years of shared niggatry, because you're going to be a slave either way.

>>510075967
I know, I pointed that out in the thread. What I find retarded is demanding protection money and souring relations with what is effectively the largest american military base in asia, the USA is the richest nation in the world a few billion dollars is really not worth this. Its just giving china chances.

>>510074845
>they will be completely defenseless
Against who? Russia wont bother with the USA, theyll just take eastern europe again. China will take taiwan, korea nd japan. Whos going to invade the US mexico? Theyre already invading.

>>510076078
can’t say I disagree with you. If it were up to me I’d let east Asia take care of itself

>>510076059
>Take the troops out of your international bases and you have no empire, then people might actually decide to cast off this jewish usury and just collectively attack Israel in retaliation for debt slavery.
Snap! If this happened I would vote for him for a 3rd fucking term

>>510075818
Vietnam and India already proved they aren't reliable actors. It was never going to work to begin with. Frankly, Japan and Korea can't be counted on in an actual war either. Japan's JDF is too weak and their citizens have been polled saying they wouldn't fight in an actual war. Korea's too small and ineffective against China; it's really just the land that's valuable because of its proximity. And they'll be the first to get hit in an actual conflict, and the onus would fall on the US to respond.

>their economy isn't the best either since 10% of all of it is Samsung
Maybe they shouldn't have done communist-style economic planning to hand over their economy to a handful of cronies. The korean economy is basically japan before the US reformed the japanese economy and busted up all the zaibatsus. Their economy being fucked by chabeols is entirely their fault for not having learned a single thing since the 90s.

>>510076122
dear bot reply, I am not "throwing shade", I am analyzing here. Between rock and a hard place means it's a tough call to make, but they have to pick a side due to that other country in their north.
Stop whining about your subsidies, that's literally your wealth in the making right there. Where did all those consoomer products go again? Right into your households in exchange for paper that is now losing its value.
You got all those slaves for free.
Everyone is tired of Israel's shit and their big brother is also tiresome.
If you're white, understand that you're welcome here as long as you come unarmed, we could need some more hands with actual skills. I never hate the people, always the state, unless it's India, Niggers or Arabs.

>>510076293
>I never hate the people, always the state, unless it's India, Niggers or Arabs.
Fair enough. How about Juice? Do you drink the Juice?

>>510076122
>The big picture you all here don't realize is that both Korea and Japan were able to use money that they would otherwise have to spend on their military to boot their tech sectors. This allowed them to grow up fast and eventually rival the US.
what a silly narrative

>>510076293
>long as you come unarmed

Well whos going to work with no arms? Stupid kraut?

>>510076370
How is that silly? Look at the current talk in Korea regarding Trump asking for more money for US troops. They are even saying that Korea would have to spend around 15 billion more if the US left. That 15 billion goes into other areas that help Korea develop and stay ahead in certain tech areas.

I bet you if we leave Korea and Japan, both countries will have less to put back into their strategic industries and this will erode their advantage and others will regain the lead.

>>510076171
may i remind you of your debt?
you have to pay it back one way or another
also large parts of the world made "death to america" their slogan and ideological goal

>>510076267
to be fair they seeded all the chaebols right when the zaibatsu proved to be effective in Japan, and if you know both people it kinda works for them. No it's not fair, but it does have advantages. It's basically what china also does now, vertical integration, albeit china does it nationwide.
The worst thing they did was thinking the US consoomer market would be endlessly absorbing all the gadgets for any price.

>>510075780
https://youtu.be/_0BTysbQqis

>>510076124
while "a way" in theory, NK made it quite clear that unification will only happen on their terms.
Which if SK comes to the table without the US means SK has quite the shitty hand to even talk.

>>510076464
the US demands tribute for their MIC, not going to well the demand alone weakens posture and is not proportional to fleeting US commitment

the idea that you would draft zoomers to fight over taiwan or SK is about zero

>>510076330
how could I not denounce the Talmud, I am sorry anon. Yes, see flag, I thoroughly despise them and am of the opinion that #113 should be "Earth".

>>510076558
what?

the US will always prioritize israel everybody needs to act accordingly

>>510075831
You know nothing about Korea if you think their current trajectory is towards unification.
The populations that still knew their relatives on the other side have largely died off and the ROKs don't want an enormous population of destitute, malnourished dwarves to suddenly be their responsibility (and neither does China, for that matter).
There haven't been overtures towards reconciling in years and no major political party in the south will change that any time soon. The difference in messaging only varies on whether they need our help to defend themselves or whether the ROK should be the Switzerland of Asia and play the sides off each other to maintain independence.
>>510076124
>you're going to be a slave
If you can't tell, I'm not Korean.
>>510076267
Staging and shipyards in Korea and Japan are the only way we do not lose in the Pacific, period. "Just" the land my ass, overseas logistics are the only reason we became a superpower in the first place you goddamn idiot.
>communist-style economic planning
Anon, the strongmen who ran Korea and turned it from an agrarian backwater with 0.3 pairs of shoes per capita into a resounding global success story consolidated their power by taking thousands of civilians who vaguely smelled of communism and burying them alive.
The only comparable economic miracle in human history is probably Singapore and there is no comparable rabid-frothing-hatred-for-communism miracle. If somebody like Mamdani ran for office in the ROK, he would be beaten to death by the next taxi driver he met and then the taxi driver would win the election.

>>510074498
Are they really reliable if they don't pay denbts

>>510076690
>and neither does China
I wouldn't personally be so sure about that. They're hungry to expand.

>>510074390
>paying for other peoples shit is winning
Trump is a zog faggot but he is right about US "allies" mooching off.

>>510076690
zog slave, stop betraying your country and people
the US is under jewish minority rule

>>510074352
>>510074390
He is pivoting away from Asia. The balance of power has shifted too far in China's favor which means a US China war would be catastrophic for us so they are insulting and imposing unreasonable burdens on our allies in the region so they break up with us and we can wash our hands of the Taiwan issue.

>>510074232 (OP)
TACO
why anyone still pays attention to what he says is beyond me
he's a blowhard, but always caves in the end

Fake news. If it's in the news it's fake. Especially on any defenses. It might be an indicator. Although it's?

Did the PM change and is it seeking renewed contracts for thaad and increased stationing? Who cares. Except it's a bunch of nonsense. Why is Pol debating it, not like it'll change any commitments or position. Trump said something and it went into their heads and returned into topical hyperbole?

Let me know when the Americans leave SK? Not happening tomorrow

>>510074573
No, Raimundo. We are coming to fuck you in the ass.

>>510075415
This. To do what trump is trying to do you need trust and credibility, but his public image is the opposite. All trust has been lost because of his behavior towards the jews. All credibility has been lost because as big as he talks, he won't actually go to war.

>>510075947
>South Korea is not some declawed euro country that expects the US to come save it.

Europe is arming because Russia is openly threatening and then complaining about Europe arming... What a fucking travesty.
And with Trump no one can count on US at all.

>>510076972
the US demanding tribute for their MIC from the most useful strategic allies shows that they stand zero chance to win this
1. it shows that they are cash strapped even before china gears up
2. shows they turn the thing into a for profit zero sum venture, willing to lose strategic edge
3. ignores that the US got 60% of the global wealth in their stockmarket this is becoming a schoolyard bully as a career path instead of hedgefund manager
4. the US will prioritize israel over any other mutual concern and alliance meaning you pay up for nothing
5. US zoomers are undraftable the US will not be able to fight any war with ground troops

>>510076690
>Anon, the strongmen who ran Korea and turned it from an agrarian backwater with 0.3 pairs of shoes per capita into a resounding global success story consolidated their power by taking thousands of civilians who vaguely smelled of communism and burying them alive.
Communists infight all the time. In fact, it's what they're famous for. Ever hear of the Tiananmen Square Massacres? HURR STRONGMEN CRUSHED THOSE COMMIE COLLEGE STUDENTS. And I mean that unironically, those kids were even further left than the actual communist party and were calling for a return to hardline Maoism and accusing the CPC of being corrupted by liberal western values. Calling for democracy is the oldest trick in the communist playback.

Anywho, Korea is a far-left command economy moonlighting as a liberal economy because they have credit cards to run up massive consumer debt. That's literally all it is. China's the same thing. Just because you're indirectly commanding the economy through (proportionally) massive grants and subsidies to "private" companies doesn't change that fact. Imagine if we just gave our tech companies like $2 trillion a year to cover all their opex. That's China, that's Korea, that's Taiwan, etc.

>>510077067
europe is arming to boost defense stock and thief money for the US MIC after the US attacked us
russia has doomsday weapons, if we do not talk nuclear deterrent the aim is corruption

>>510077067
Good, you shit in your bed now sleep in it. The free rides end now

lucky for the gooks, soon they'll expel the armed thugs and won't have to suffer having niggers and jeets and trannies forced on them at gunpoint by the Israeli perverts the MIC answers to.

>>510074232 (OP)
That why you should develop your own nukes even muttmerican sanction you or wont stop crying about it .

>>510075947
South Korea only spends 2.7% of its gdp on defense and only pays 10% of the cost of keeping US troops there. Yes we are running a protection racket but you're going to pay up anyway.

>>510078786
the point is this, why the fuck should we sell our young mens lives to anyone to begin with? Fuck it, I say we bail and focus on our own country for once.

Interesting ideas here. Somehow the anti-Trumpers think that America should care more about China exterminating/taking over/vassalizing SK and Japan than the Koreans and Japanese themselves.

>>510074785
then they lose US protection. the military isnt only there for US interests, they protect South Korea. or did you not consider that?

you need to pay for the muscle otherwise you can fight your own fights.

>>510079144
They are there to project power
Duh

>>510074232 (OP)
It's just a distraction to get people to stop talking about Epstein.

>>510079144
Everybody has to pay up... Except Israel

>South Korea's defense budget for 2025 is around 61.2 trillion won, which is approximately $44.7 billion USD. This represents about 2.32% of the country's GDP. The budget includes funds for maintaining a strong military, enhancing deterrence against potential threats, and bolstering its defense industry

They make most of their stuff btw, so it's not the Americans who profit from this (mediocre) spending. Why not at least cover the expenses for the U.S. troops? Is another billion or two going to bankrupt Korea?

>>510074232 (OP)
South Korra and Japan need to immediately expel all US forces and become Chinese allies unless they want to get colonized by criminal migrants l, the mentally ill and aggressive rapists like the West did

>>510077023
Kek, it's so joever

>>510074232 (OP)
We dont need USA.
We will just kowtow to beijing as we should have done a long time ago.

>>510079414
Im chinese. We shared blood with china. You and i are nothing we are enemies i will kill you crackers.

>>510074455
>trump is
Lets not pretend it's just one guy. USA going to shit was forecasted forever ago.

>>510079144
No it doesnt we dont need b2 stealth bomber with GBU-57.
we have hyunmoo-5 superweapon.
We have KF-21
We have arsenal bird
We have stonehenge
We have all superweapons
We have nothing.
You will die GI

>>510074232 (OP)
FAuck you Gi.
I kill you gi.

>>510075818
You don't know anything about Japanese politics. The LDP is going to collapse in the upcoming House of Councillors election because conservatives are defecting from the LDP in favor of far right parties, Conservative Party of Japan and Sanseito. Both Conservative Party of Japan and Sanseito are anti-China and anti-Korea and really want to kick out all the Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, and Vietnamese in Japan due to all the Asian crimes happening in Japan. Even Uniqlo publicly announced they are suing all the Vietnamese shoplifters instead of just deporting them.

>>510074232 (OP)
And we pay Israel 20 billion a year (on the record) just for the privilege of being at their beckoned call


I’m really getting fed up with Zion don

>>510079881
Fuck off we will raid japan.
We will rape their women
We will burn their cities
We will kill all japs in the name of odin inshallah.
Our armies are vast we will pillage and plunder.

>>510079322
the real cost for the troops is <$5bUSD based on koreans paying >$1bUSD and the US stating this contribution is above one-fifth in the past
considering the function of US troops is as a tripwire the demand for >200% cost is absolutely delusional
tripwire forces are operated by countries because it is beneficial to them, not because it is beneficial to the country the tripwire force is located in
completely unironically the US should be paying SK to keep forces inside it since china is currently the only real contender for global power

>>510074232 (OP)
korea should just ask the US to leave and make the USA tell the world they are actually forcing the koreans to host them. they don't need the americans. the US bases in seoul are worth a few billion in real estate value.

>>510074232 (OP)
fuck Kimchi gon do?

>>510080126
Raid and plunder japan
We have assembled the gook heathen army.

>>510074232 (OP)
Trump is a massive stooge for the Military Industrial Complex and their protection racket known as NATO.
They flood their own nations with shitskins and start pointless wars as a way to justify their continued existence. Trump isn't an anti-war President at all, he's a believer in the shock and awe doctrine of just bombing the shit out of people until they bend the knee.

>>510074845
The average american doesn't get any appreciable benefit from world police faggotry after the bankers and military industrial complex take their cut. Our average quality of living is on par with you europeans despite you being suicidal, oversocialized retards.

>>510074232 (OP)
I wonder how Shit korea can even afford that

here in japan there is finally talk among the right wing in politics about getting these american occupiers out
thank God for Donald Drumpf
up to this point korea and japan would never have entertained wanting to thrown the goblin army out but this bloviating retard is finally paving the way for the americans to be kicked the fuck out

>>510074390
JDPON Don will unite the third world in maoist struggle against the imperial core

>>510081015
Our military is better than japan DUMMMY.
we will raid and plunder japan like vikings did to england soon after americans collapse.

>>510081079
Yeah maybe after you're reunified under juche lmao

>>510075947
you aren't a gook. Only mutts talk about threat from China in south korea.

>>510080871
based

>>510074232 (OP)

Trump can pay off a big chunk of the national debt by giving South Korea, Taiwan, and more to China.

>>510079881
japan hating on China is a show for outsiders to let them ease their ass. East asian hate is the most cringiest one in the world.

>>510081169
Under king kim. We will slaughter all the japs.

>>510080871
you should do that since 80s. They nuked you twice and economically bankrupted you. I don't like what you did in nanking and unite 731 but you should not be an asshole again. Be friends with China and Korea. Let's embrace east asia unity.

>>510078188
yep, japan should develop nukes to defend themselves getting nuked by the US again. KEK

>>510081507
No east asia will probably be like the imperium from dune different houses veying for power with their private armies.

>>510081593
yeah but what for? You are retarded. You should listen to China and not being an asshole.

>>510074232 (OP)
10 billion is not a lot of money, they should spend another 50 and take north Korea as well.

>>510081656
China will fragment soon. Dynasty warriors fourteen kingdoms in 21st century soon.

>>510081694
DPRK? No thanks they cant afford we aint paying shit. Fucking stupid poor commies.

>>510081783
You start one Korea policy

>>510081718
>Dynasty warriors fourteen kingdoms in 21st century soon.
They'll manage to fuck that one up aswell.

t. mad

>>510081855
More women

>>510074390
>Is trump retarded
Always has been.

>>510081718
Nah the cultural differences between regions aren't as big as they were in the past. If India and Brazil can somehow stay together China would have no problem.

>>510082052
Nah if china collapses im going back to my ancestorial kingdom of Wu.

>>510081694
paying tribute is allot of humiliation, the US says the NPT is worthless

>>510074498
Trump was installed by Russia,Israel and China to destroy the US

>>510082142
Gook build nukes in 6 month if gook wanted nukes

>>510082307
Nukes are haram. Its against allahs will.

>>510082359
Gook kill one less man

>>510074232 (OP)
s they say in Korea sianaro dude!

>>510075967
So? You want it to exist or not?

>>510077293
>>510077067
>>510074955
Trump and his base act like Europe is some welfare child the US has babysitted out of pure kindness. Reality: US wanted Europe dependent so it could run the show. Actively went against France attempts to push for more independence and European military efforts. We could have been more strong willed sure.
But now it’s "why can’t you defend yourselves?" lmao

France has nukes that don’t need US permission. Only EU country with real sovereign nukes. Poland spending like 4% GDP on military now. Germany waking up too. Too slow imo but it's getting there. Europe just wasn’t allowed to build parallel forces for decades cause US wanted NATO under its thumb.

Now US goes "you’re on your own" and blames Europe for not being ready overnight. Absolute clown world.

>>510082753
And fuck that memeflag, not intended

>>510074400
Are you somali

>>510074232 (OP)
considering that the US is way more than half of what SK army is then paying us 25% of their military budget seems like a great deal to me.
and they should invade best korea and put an end to that festering menace once and for all.

>>510074343
pay debts, greek faggot.

>>510082753
>EU fags figuring it out that the great satan is indeed satan
Maybe one day you guys will also realize that the vodka niggers aren't nearly as bad if you stop poking them with the alliance designed by the jews to specifically fuck both of you over.

>>510083393
The debt has been repaid with interest to Westoid females touring our islands.
God has made Greek men to sit lavishly, eat and fuck Germanoid women, while the Germanoid men work their asses off to send them money.
Those are the costs of BGC.

>>510074352
Final stages of the crumbling of the American empire.

Korea is not vital to the kike cause.

it's dangerous to be an ally of the us
they force their politics on you, want you to buy their shit or pay a tax, and use you to fight for them while they don't fight themselves

unless you're israel, where they pay for everything and will fight for you

>>510082753
germany is not talking nuclear, with russia as the "adversary" the conventional rearmament is an obvious grift and corruption

EXECUTE ALL KIKES
our tendielord has spoken. only real leader

>>510074232 (OP)
Well, yeah they're pissed.
Western interference is pretty much the only thing keeping Korea in two peices. Acting like we've been doing them a favor this whole time, and demanding they pay for the costs of keeping their civil war embers smouldering, is understandably infuriating.
When Trump exhibits this characteristically jewish lack of self-awareness, it's easy to imagine him being a genuine crypto-jew.

>>510075554
>now

>>510074232 (OP)
I like how the USA pump and dumps foreign elites. Funny shit.

>>510074498
Donald Trump just announced we aren't buying anymore tranime

>>510086006
If you have no clue about how the world looks and works, that might be the conclusion to come to.
Foreigners are doing business with China and increasingly abandoning you, and when running out of options, your elected government is forced to collect pennies (while printing trillions) as a form of leverage, because you have nothing else going on to offer, except for increasingly dysfunctional and polarized economy and society exporting rancid culture and zionist banditry.

Embarrassing, to cheer for effectively stooges China wouldn't dream about.

>>510074603
>It is a favor for the us military to be stationed and essentially protecting a foreign nation that doesn't have much of a military of it's own
>The favor is owed to that nation in which the US is protecting
>Owed
Fucking retard

>>510087656
If the US leaves the Korean Peninsula, North and South Korea will probably sort out their issues relatively quickly.

>>510075967
And it shouldn't, just like Ukraine.

>>510074352
modern warfare has changed overnight

basically, any slow moving high value piece of equipment is now redundant (an exaggeration but you get the point) apart from being a drone target.

war now is missiles drones and artillery and unless you can move and deploy these assets quickly you will lose them
manpower has to be transported quickly rather than in armor
squads need mobile jamming etc

its pointless paying for a standing military so I cant see Korea doing it or just doing enough so they can start doing there own thing.

tl:dr If you dont have a huge domestic drone program, you need one

>>510087948
That's a definite no

>>510074232 (OP)
Well, he Is dumb, he has to invest In Korea If he wants to be near good Korea, Its not a fucking favor, Its also In his interest ... but we are talking about Zionist burgers being idioticaly greedy because they gave all their resources to Israel.

South Korea will just pay it lol

>>510089509
C'mon, they're your buddies.

>>510074390
he is trying to take his hands off taiwan so that he can focus on protecting israel

>>510083393
THEY HATE US CAUSE THEY PAID US

>>510074232 (OP)
how come worst korea is not in NATO already

>>510091663
If I had to guess, it's because, officially, they are still at war, iirc.

>>510076936
>break up with us and we can wash our hands of the Taiwan issue.
Okay then china just gets tsmc for free and blows past the US in AI and immediately becomes the world leader which would actually be the real catastrophic outcome for us.

>>510075415
>trump is killing the smerican empire
killing the anglo empire, which is of no benefit or interest to america.

>"project power" on a global scale
the weapons we have now make nukes seem like fire crackers. hybrid digital/biological/informational warfare run by interdimensional demons manifested as AI. with all the crazy shit cooking it will be a miracle if we don't destroy the human race, but projecting power is definitely not a problem.

>global allies
the cuck vassals in the eu can whine like the faggot bitches they are as much as they want, but their power depends on ours, and so they will always be our slaves, until they are overthrown by legitimate nationalist governments, which is our long term goal, so we just wait, and squeeze.

>>510075544
>you want to keep those bases and troops everywhere
no, we don't, which is the point. in the world we are entering all of that boomer shit is a massive liability. it is a big flaming pile of money that leaves us over extended in an indefensible position. the only way the US can survive is consolidating in a defensive position in the continental US and the rest of the Americas. the current military is essentially a private security force for corporations and despots who we prop up in exchange for bribes, which is a perfectly fine operating model, for a profitable private company, but not for a functional state. foreign military deployments will continue, but only on a profitable basis.

>>510074955
>its an empire that costs us an arm and a leg, which we're now getting no benefits from and which is actually helping our enemies (china and russia). if we fully pulled back, russia and china would go to war AFAIC

Brit here, how'd that work out for the British Empire again?

>>510074232 (OP)
South korea is wealthy and has a huge army. They’re actually can pay if they want protection.

>>510074498
Subhumans only understand one thing. Violence, and as a corollary, the threat of violence. Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived

>>510076936
Chink wishcasting

>>510088581
>modern warfare has changed overnight
it has been changing for a while, but a lot of corrupt retards with their fingers in their ears refusing to listen as they cash their checks. ukraine just made it impossible to deny any more.

>tl:dr If you dont have a huge domestic drone program, you need one
this is crucial, but underneath this is hardened digital systems. digital weapons provide immense power but they are very difficult to secure and operate reliably in a contested environment. what we have seen in ukraine is only a small appetizer. imagine swarms of tens of millions of drones, essentially a highly maneuverable 3-dimensional cluster bomb, moving across a battlefield like a swarm of locusts destroying everything in its path. this is technically possible now, but the real sticking point is how do you control it and how do you prevent your enemies from hacking or disabling it?

>>510093333
observed the truth

>>510093333
>Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived
witnessed

>>510074955
i think to sum it all up simple, we feel that an alliance with the US is worth more harm than good. you have already sucked the world dry to protect your empire and trump only wants more

>>510091663
The same reason Australia, Japan, and New Zealand aren't. It's the North ATLANTIC Treaty Organization.

>>510076870
everyone seems to understand this except americans. they also don't understand the idea that jews are not White and they think judaism is just a religion. alot of people here are hopelessly mind-fucked.

>>510074232 (OP)
>$10 billion yearly
Get the chaebols to onshore to the US. EZPZ $10 billion.

>>510074498
>Good luck alienating Japan and SK in mere weeks you fat orange retard. It only took decades of foreign politics for America to secure reliable partners in that region.

>>510074232 (OP)
We're not asking. That is the PRICE if you want US troops stationed in YOUR country. Pay it or we bring the soldiers home and you can deal with North Korea on your own. It's that simple. It really is amazing how brazen these other countries are in taking advantage of the wealth and generosity of the US. That shit is OVER. You want our help? PAY US

>>510095060
>vid
Why is he so upset? Lost his lane by 10 cs?

>>510093659
It's true though the US exists solely to defend Israel. There is no way the Jews are going to let the US get into a war with China while Iran is still a threat

>>510095227
>or we bring the soldiers home
See this is why no one is actually paying because it's a military occupation the US won't leave until the empire collapses

>>510095227
This. The Cold War has been over for 35 years. It's time for the rest of the world to pull their own weight and stand on their own feet. Our "allies" are like nagging wives who do nothing but beg for money and protection, but refuse to give up the pussy, i.e. favorable trade deals.

>>510084371
>>Western interference is pretty much the only thing keeping Korea in two peices.
You're fucking retarded, retard

>>510095893
It's a military occupation the US isn't defending them from anything. Compare how many South Korean women have been raped by Americans to how many have been raped by North Koreans. That's all you need to know

>>510096067
I agree, but our client states act like we're reneging on our obligation to protect them from the nonexistent commie threat when try to scale down our presence due to losing money from this brand of imperialism. The truth is that they love being our colonies, since they can use the money they would be using for defense to prop up their healthcare and tech industries. Overseas US bases also funnel tons of American tax money into their local economies every time the military builds more housing and McDonald's for our zogbots and their dependas. It's fucking stupid to waste billions of dollars every year to protect yuropoors who won't even do the bare minimum to protect their own borders from negroid rape apes (they blame us for that too).